Re: [Therion] Therion color by scrap or map

[Martin Sluka via Therion]

Bruce, it was my statement before too.  But there was an example of cave where 
passages are overlapping in way as strands in rope a time ago. In this case to 
visualize this one must define color of scraps manually. In normal situation 
you are right.

And it is very difficult to imagine how to define such visualization in layout 
for me.

I have no any problem to define more different maps and use them for particular 
exports.

m.s. 


> 13. 9. 2017 v 22:11, Bruce Mutton via Therion :
> 
> At the time Stacho removed it I wondered.  I can see it both ways.
> However I think Stacho is right.
> 
> For almost everything to do with the appearance of 2d outputs, I put 
> statements in one or more layouts.
> 
> Therion philosophy.  Define once, use many times?  Personally I dislike 
> defining many specialist maps that are almost identical.  I'd rather define 
> one then have many layouts if I want many different output appearances.
> 
> If the colour of maps [not scraps] is defined in the map definition (source), 
> then would a layout map-fg statement override it or not?
> (Colour definition at scrap level as Martin described below seems a bit 
> tedious and unnecessary perhaps).
> 
> If the colour of maps is defined in the map definition, what about when I 
> define multiple layouts to produce outputs that colour differently?
> 
> I think both generic and specific colouring of maps should be defined in 
> layouts.  It avoids questions of which takes precedence (source or layout) 
> and is consistent with Therion behaviour so far.
> Or not?
> 
> Bruce
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Therion [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Martin Sluka 
> via Therion
> Sent: Wednesday, 13 September 2017 7:58 PM
> To: List for Therion users 
> Cc: Martin Sluka 
> Subject: Re: [Therion] Therion color by scrap or map
> 
> A bit not understand the reason: "Removed map colour option. It should be 
> defined in layout, not source…“
> 
> It is right in case how exported map is colored in layout command when it is 
> a general colorization. 
> 
> But to define color independently on other parameters for each scrap is 
> logically in source. Instead one should list particular scraps in layout and 
> define color for each one. It is not practical I think. Instead I’ll define 
> another  and export it.
> 
> m.s.
> 
>> 13. 9. 2017 v 7:49, Olly Betts via Therion :
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 09:17:41PM -0700, dennis mitchell via Therion wrote:
>>> Hello I've been looking for info on if we have the ability to set the 
>>> color of scraps or maps. Or am I limited to color map-fg (altitude, 
>>> scrap, map)
>> 
>> I implemented this a while back and my patch got applied, but Stacho 
>> later disabled the feature - from the commit message it seems he 
>> thought the colours should be defined in a different place to where 
>> I'd hooked them up.
>> 
>> If you're happy to apply patches and rebuild the source, the two 
>> commits you need to undo to make my patch work again are listed here:
>> 
>> https://github.com/therion/therion/issues/80
>> 
>> Cheers,
>>   Olly
> 
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Re: [Therion] Area "filled"

[Bruce Mutton via Therion]

Markus is looking for the code for this particular user defined symbol I think.

 

From: Therion [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Martin Sluka via 
Therion
Sent: Thursday, 14 September 2017 7:22 AM
To: List for Therion users 
Cc: Martin Sluka 
Subject: Re: [Therion] Area "filled"

 

Please, what it means "fill in part“?

 

They are user defined symbols.

 

Martin

 

13. 9. 2017 v 14:35, Markus Boldt via Therion mailto:therion@speleo.sk> >:

 

Yes Martin, that`s it. But how get I now the box “fill in Part” with this nice 
color in the Legend and how do I tell the drawing that this area is a “fill in 
part”? 

Markus

 

Von: Therion [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] Im Auftrag von Martin Sluka via 
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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. September 2017 09:43
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Cc: Martin Sluka
Betreff: Re: [Therion] Area "filled"

 

Check this link, it is exactly what you want, I think:

 

  
http://schv.sk/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/1_o3_dlayout_en.pdf

 

m.s.

 

 

13. 9. 2017 v 9:25, Markus Boldt via Therion <  
therion@speleo.sk>:

 

Hello, 

is there a possibility in Therion to get a signature for an area „filled“, 
„refilled“ or something similar? Background is, we have dug in a cave and by 
digging we have filled a small chamber. 

Greatings

Markus

 

 

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Re: [Therion] Therion color by scrap or map

[Bruce Mutton via Therion]

At the time Stacho removed it I wondered.  I can see it both ways.
However I think Stacho is right.

For almost everything to do with the appearance of 2d outputs, I put statements 
in one or more layouts.

Therion philosophy.  Define once, use many times?  Personally I dislike 
defining many specialist maps that are almost identical.  I'd rather define one 
then have many layouts if I want many different output appearances.

If the colour of maps [not scraps] is defined in the map definition (source), 
then would a layout map-fg statement override it or not?
(Colour definition at scrap level as Martin described below seems a bit tedious 
and unnecessary perhaps).

If the colour of maps is defined in the map definition, what about when I 
define multiple layouts to produce outputs that colour differently?

I think both generic and specific colouring of maps should be defined in 
layouts.  It avoids questions of which takes precedence (source or layout) and 
is consistent with Therion behaviour so far.
Or not?

Bruce

-Original Message-
From: Therion [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Martin Sluka via 
Therion
Sent: Wednesday, 13 September 2017 7:58 PM
To: List for Therion users 
Cc: Martin Sluka 
Subject: Re: [Therion] Therion color by scrap or map

A bit not understand the reason: "Removed map colour option. It should be 
defined in layout, not source…“

It is right in case how exported map is colored in layout command when it is a 
general colorization. 

But to define color independently on other parameters for each scrap is 
logically in source. Instead one should list particular scraps in layout and 
define color for each one. It is not practical I think. Instead I’ll define 
another  and export it.

m.s.

> 13. 9. 2017 v 7:49, Olly Betts via Therion :
> 
> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 09:17:41PM -0700, dennis mitchell via Therion wrote:
>> Hello I've been looking for info on if we have the ability to set the 
>> color of scraps or maps. Or am I limited to color map-fg (altitude, 
>> scrap, map)
> 
> I implemented this a while back and my patch got applied, but Stacho 
> later disabled the feature - from the commit message it seems he 
> thought the colours should be defined in a different place to where 
> I'd hooked them up.
> 
> If you're happy to apply patches and rebuild the source, the two 
> commits you need to undo to make my patch work again are listed here:
> 
> https://github.com/therion/therion/issues/80
> 
> Cheers,
>Olly


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Re: [Therion] Area "filled"

[Martin Sluka via Therion]

Please, what it means "fill in part“?

They are user defined symbols.

Martin

> 13. 9. 2017 v 14:35, Markus Boldt via Therion :
> 
> Yes Martin, that`s it. But how get I now the box “fill in Part” with this 
> nice color in the Legend and how do I tell the drawing that this area is a 
> “fill in part”? 
> Markus
>  
> Von: Therion [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] Im Auftrag von Martin Sluka 
> via Therion
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. September 2017 09:43
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> Cc: Martin Sluka
> Betreff: Re: [Therion] Area "filled"
>  
> Check this link, it is exactly what you want, I think:
>  
> http://schv.sk/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/1_o3_dlayout_en.pdf 
> 
>  
> m.s.
>  
>  
>> 13. 9. 2017 v 9:25, Markus Boldt via Therion > >:
>>  
>> Hello, 
>> is there a possibility in Therion to get a signature for an area „filled“, 
>> „refilled“ or something similar? Background is, we have dug in a cave and by 
>> digging we have filled a small chamber. 
>> Greatings
>> Markus
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Re: [Therion] Area "filled"

[Markus Boldt via Therion]

Yes Martin, that`s it. But how get I now the box “fill in Part” with this nice 
color in the Legend and how do I tell the drawing that this area is a “fill in 
part”? 

Markus

 

Von: Therion [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] Im Auftrag von Martin Sluka via 
Therion
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. September 2017 09:43
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Cc: Martin Sluka
Betreff: Re: [Therion] Area "filled"

 

Check this link, it is exactly what you want, I think:

 

http://schv.sk/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/1_o3_dlayout_en.pdf

 

m.s.

 

 

13. 9. 2017 v 9:25, Markus Boldt via Therion :

 

Hello, 

is there a possibility in Therion to get a signature for an area „filled“, 
„refilled“ or something similar? Background is, we have dug in a cave and by 
digging we have filled a small chamber. 

Greatings

Markus

 

 

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Re: [Therion] Therion color by scrap or map

[Martin Sluka via Therion]

General colorization in layout should simply ignore local scrap colorization.

m.s.

On Sep 13, 2017, at 09:58 AM, Martin Sluka via Therion  
wrote:

A bit not understand the reason: "Removed map colour option. It should be 
defined in layout, not source…“

It is right in case how exported map is colored in layout command when it is a general colorization. 


But to define color independently on other parameters for each scrap is logically in 
source. Instead one should list particular scraps in layout and define color for each 
one. It is not practical I think. Instead I’ll define another 
 and export it.

m.s.

13. 9. 2017 v 7:49, Olly Betts via Therion :

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 09:17:41PM -0700, dennis mitchell via Therion wrote:
Hello I've been looking for info on if we have the ability to set the color
of scraps or maps. Or am I limited to color map-fg (altitude, scrap, map)

I implemented this a while back and my patch got applied, but Stacho
later disabled the feature - from the commit message it seems he thought
the colours should be defined in a different place to where I'd hooked
them up.

If you're happy to apply patches and rebuild the source, the two commits
you need to undo to make my patch work again are listed here:

https://github.com/therion/therion/issues/80

Cheers,
Olly
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Re: [Therion] Therion color by scrap or map

[Martin Sluka via Therion]

A bit not understand the reason: "Removed map colour option. It should be 
defined in layout, not source…“

It is right in case how exported map is colored in layout command when it is a 
general colorization. 

But to define color independently on other parameters for each scrap is 
logically in source. Instead one should list particular scraps in layout and 
define color for each one. It is not practical I think. Instead I’ll define 
another  and export it.

m.s.

> 13. 9. 2017 v 7:49, Olly Betts via Therion :
> 
> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 09:17:41PM -0700, dennis mitchell via Therion wrote:
>> Hello I've been looking for info on if we have the ability to set the color
>> of scraps or maps. Or am I limited to color map-fg (altitude, scrap, map)
> 
> I implemented this a while back and my patch got applied, but Stacho
> later disabled the feature - from the commit message it seems he thought
> the colours should be defined in a different place to where I'd hooked
> them up.
> 
> If you're happy to apply patches and rebuild the source, the two commits
> you need to undo to make my patch work again are listed here:
> 
> https://github.com/therion/therion/issues/80
> 
> Cheers,
>Olly
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Re: [Therion] Area "filled"

[Martin Sluka via Therion]

Check this link, it is exactly what you want, I think:

http://schv.sk/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/1_o3_dlayout_en.pdf 


m.s.


> 13. 9. 2017 v 9:25, Markus Boldt via Therion :
> 
> Hello, 
> is there a possibility in Therion to get a signature for an area „filled“, 
> „refilled“ or something similar? Background is, we have dug in a cave and by 
> digging we have filled a small chamber. 
> Greatings
> Markus
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[Therion] Area "filled"

[Markus Boldt via Therion]

Hello, 

is there a possibility in Therion to get a signature for an area "filled",
"refilled" or something similar? Background is, we have dug in a cave and by
digging we have filled a small chamber. 

Greatings

Markus

 

 

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