[tw] Re: Treeview comments and bugs

[Eric Weir]

On May 24, 2009, at 9:38 PM, Eric Weir wrote:

> which are not to the liking of anyone but me

Should have been "may not." Maybe somebody besides me does like it?

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[tw] CalendarPlugin/DatePlugin Modification Question

[Lilly]

Hello all!

I am using TiddlyWiki as an organizer for personal information and
study information. I am using the FormTiddlerPlugin, CalendarPlugin,
and DatePlugin. Right now, I have it set up so that if I click on a
date on the calendar, a popup comes up with the date. I would like to
create another link in the popup that creates a new appointment -- I
do that in a sidebar button with this code: <\>"}} tag:"appointment">> but I
cannot figure out how to add a link in the popup that creates a new
appointment using the form tiddler. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thank you ahead of time for any help you could provide! :)

Lilly

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[tw] Re: Treeview comments and bugs

[Eric Weir]

On May 24, 2009, at 8:02 PM, Mark S. wrote:

> You can try it with class "treeview-black", and see if that fills the
> bill better. There's also "treeview-gray". Other color schemes could
> be made by playing with the little graphic icons and substituting the
> colors you want in some image editor.

Thanks, Mark. The comment about my color preferences were directed at  
TWT-Notes, not the implementation of TreeView. I'd like to substitute  
the colors of the Blackicity TiddlyWiki theme, which are not to the  
liking of anyone but me, for those Morris has chosen for TWT-Notes.

I imagine pretty simple for those of you who know CSS. A big  
investment in learning CSS just to satisfy your color preferences.

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[tw] Re: image: thumb + popup?

[Eric Shulman]

> I tried this online and from a local file: < with: http://www.tiddlytools.com/images/fish.jpg3em 4em fullWidth
> fullHeight>>

Though I realize you are only testing, please **do NOT create 'deep-
links' to image files stored on TiddlyTools.com**.  This is considered
extremely rude.

Also, do *not* take copies of TiddlyTools background images
(sunset.jpg, fish.jpg, mountains.jpg, etc.).  They are my original,
*copyrighted* photos and have not being distributed as open source or
placed in the public domain.

Thanks,
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[tw] Re: image: thumb + popup?

[Eric Shulman]

> I tried:  100px>> - no luck

When entering macro parameters that start with "http:" you need to
enclose it within [[...]].  Otherwise, TW will interpret the leading
http: as a parameter 'name', resulting in a param named "http" with a
value of "//www.unamesa.org/images/header.png".  Thus:

>

and, to use an image URL stored in a field, you will need to use the
<> macro [1] to insert the value into the appropriate place,
like this:

<\>'}}
im...@here>>

enjoy,
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[1] http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#WikifyPlugin
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[tw] Re: Treeview comments and bugs

[Mark S.]

You can try it with class "treeview-black", and see if that fills the
bill better. There's also "treeview-gray". Other color schemes could
be made by playing with the little graphic icons and substituting the
colors you want in some image editor.

-- Mark

On May 24, 3:35 pm, Eric Weir  wrote:
> On May 24, 2009, at 6:50 PM, Morris Gray wrote:
>
> > You can use your  present TW-Notes menus with practically no change.
> > About the only change is taking the  site map slider command < > [[My subTopic1]] . sliders>> out of the first level tiddler. and and
> > possibly it will work straight off.
>
> Picky, picky, picky! That's me! If TW-Notes [tabbed] with TreeView in  
> place of siteMap was available with the colors of the Blackicity theme  
> [http://tiddlythemes.com/#Blackicity] I would adopt it in a minute,  
> since it already has a lot that I've tried to create for myself, and  
> some that I'm absolutely incapable of creating. siteMap has been the  
> main thing that has put me off. I gave it a try but it was just too  
> cumbersome. With TreeView in place of it my only hesitation is the  
> color scheme. One of the things I'm absolutely incapable of fixing.
>
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[tw] Re: now Alternate Time Systems in TW- major thread drift.

[rtimwest]

Morris,


On May 24, 6:08 pm, Morris Gray  wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
> I can't seem to find what thread I read that sent me to your site
> maybe I dreamed it.  This will have to do.
>
> NET is a single time on its own to the exclusion of all others.

Well now... guess it's a good thing for you that I'm not quite as
zealous about promoting my own favored system exclusively, huh? ;-)

>  I
> want to use it to gather a following, to communicate using it and
> bring up our children in our own time :-)

Not sure I share that ENTIRE vision, but glad I could help.

>I have another unique idea for you when you get the present
> project done.  I'v e got a couple of other derivative uses for it.

Let me know what you have in mind any time, it might help me from
making decisions in the interim that will make that direction more
difficult later.

> One question with the  call sometimes it has a place to put
> text or label like this. < FormattingThePage  '« back' >>.I'd like to put a prefix or suffix or
> link on the same level as the clock. Can that be done?

Well, of course the clock is Eric's code, but it just takes a mask and
uses it, just as the journal title routine does, so anything included
in the submitted string that does NOT get interpreted as a time or
date mask should come through just fine. Just include the entire
string you want in single or double-quotes so it gets interpreted as
one parameter, not several, and it should work fine.

Text, that is. Links?  That's going to be pretty tricky, not seeing an
obvious way offhand.   Those here with more experience might, but I
know from playing with the degree sign options that the text output of
the Javascript is not being "wikified".

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[tw] Re: image: thumb + popup?

[Måns]

Hmm

I tried this online and from a local file: >
- It didn't work.
However I made it work on Erics own tiddlytools website - by making a
new tiddler and writing: <> .

I've tried with several other paths - both locally and on the net -
heres my TW and the tiddler in which I've tried to do it:
http://gdsskole.tiddlyspot.com/index.html#MM (click "redigér") or edit
where it says "Besked" underneath the picture - to se the code...

The html "ThumbThing" is here: 
http://gdsskole.tiddlyspot.com/index.html#ThumbThing
...

YS Måns Mårtensson


On May 25, 12:03 am, wolfgang  wrote:
> > > Also the lightweight RolloverPlugin would be a further option to
> > > display a full scale image upon hovering over a thumbnail:
>
> > Try this new 'pure HTML' tiddler:
> >    http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ThumbThing
>
> Great work, Eric! And even more 'light' with no dependencies. For a
> non-developer this appears all like magic.
>
> > – unfortunately the tidler where I insert the < > with: image thumbWidth thumbHeight fullWidth fullHeight>> nothing
> > appears.
> > Same problem here -
> > I tried:  > 100px>> - no luck
>
> I tested it with the online TW of Eric itself, by entering the
> following in a new tiddler there:
>
> < fullHeight>>
> < fullHeight>>
>
> And I was truly amazed.
>
> regards..
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[tw] Re: Treeview comments and bugs

[Eric Weir]

On May 24, 2009, at 6:50 PM, Morris Gray wrote:

> You can use your  present TW-Notes menus with practically no change.
> About the only change is taking the  site map slider command < [[My subTopic1]] . sliders>> out of the first level tiddler. and and
> possibly it will work straight off.

Picky, picky, picky! That's me! If TW-Notes [tabbed] with TreeView in  
place of siteMap was available with the colors of the Blackicity theme  
[ http://tiddlythemes.com/#Blackicity ] I would adopt it in a minute,  
since it already has a lot that I've tried to create for myself, and  
some that I'm absolutely incapable of creating. siteMap has been the  
main thing that has put me off. I gave it a try but it was just too  
cumbersome. With TreeView in place of it my only hesitation is the  
color scheme. One of the things I'm absolutely incapable of fixing.

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[tw] Re: Treeview comments and bugs

[Måns]

Hi Morris

This is so great that I can't express it (in english anyway :-))
This must be the best navigational plugin for TW yet -
extraoridinarily WELL DONE!!

I'm trying to use it in a TW I've tranlated to Danish - but I have
problems with EditFieldPlugin - by Eric Shulman and I don't know if
it's related to the treeviewplugin (hope not!)
You can see that it's not working here: 
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1064531/TreeNotes.html
(clean install in twt-notes)
Here's my translation: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1064531/Tr%C3%A6Noter.html
(with many added plugins)

YS Måns Mårtensson

On May 25, 12:50 am, Morris Gray  wrote:
> On May 24, 6:38 pm, IainS  wrote:
>
> > When I put in treeview1 it gave me an error message error in macro
> > <> so is something missing in the experiment??
>
> <> was for version1 of the plugin it is 2 now.
>
> > I think this really useful (maybe we can call its developers "the
> > Goodies") and I can see how it can make TW Notes much better.
> > How would it be implemented on existing TW- Notes?
>
> You can use your  present TW-Notes menus with practically no change.
> About the only change is taking the  site map slider command < [[My subTopic1]] . sliders>> out of the first level tiddler. and and
> possibly it will work straight off.
>
> In fact you could run both menus types at the same time if it wasn't
> for the name comflicts. but you can have either or...
>
> Of course some instructions have to change and a few tiddlers to help
> make it easier but not anything material to keep you from trying it.
>
> The instructions here are enough to get you started Under
> TreeviewSetup
>
> http://twt-notes-treeview-experimental.tiddlyspot.com/index.html
>
> Morris
>
> On May 24, 6:38 pm, IainS  wrote:
>
> > After spending some time I got treeview to work but only be modifying
> > the existing Main Menu like this
>
> > @@padding-left:2em;font-size:1.1em;color:#c06;[[Treeview .23 menu
> > trial|Topic]]@@
> > 
> > < > animated: "normal", persist: "cookie", cookieId: "myid"'  >>
>
> > 
> > {{textcenter{<>}}}
>
> > When I put in treeview1 it gave me an error message error in macro
> > <> so is something missing in the experiment??
>
> > I think this really useful (maybe we can call its developers "the
> > Goodies") and I can see how it can make TW Notes much better.
>
> > How would it be implemented on existing TW- Notes?
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[tw] Re: Treeview comments and bugs

[Morris Gray]

On May 24, 6:38 pm, IainS  wrote:

> When I put in treeview1 it gave me an error message error in macro
> <> so is something missing in the experiment??

<> was for version1 of the plugin it is 2 now.

> I think this really useful (maybe we can call its developers "the
> Goodies") and I can see how it can make TW Notes much better.

> How would it be implemented on existing TW- Notes?

You can use your  present TW-Notes menus with practically no change.
About the only change is taking the  site map slider command <> out of the first level tiddler. and and
possibly it will work straight off.

In fact you could run both menus types at the same time if it wasn't
for the name comflicts. but you can have either or...

Of course some instructions have to change and a few tiddlers to help
make it easier but not anything material to keep you from trying it.

The instructions here are enough to get you started Under
TreeviewSetup

http://twt-notes-treeview-experimental.tiddlyspot.com/index.html

Morris

On May 24, 6:38 pm, IainS  wrote:
> After spending some time I got treeview to work but only be modifying
> the existing Main Menu like this
>
> @@padding-left:2em;font-size:1.1em;color:#c06;[[Treeview .23 menu
> trial|Topic]]@@
> 
> < animated: "normal", persist: "cookie", cookieId: "myid"'  >>
>
> 
> {{textcenter{<>}}}
>
> When I put in treeview1 it gave me an error message error in macro
> <> so is something missing in the experiment??
>
> I think this really useful (maybe we can call its developers "the
> Goodies") and I can see how it can make TW Notes much better.
>
> How would it be implemented on existing TW- Notes?
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[tw] Re: Here's an example of a tree structure (treeview) implemented on TW

[Eric Weir]

On May 24, 2009, at 11:12 AM, wolfgang wrote:

>> Another question, that may already have been answered: will it be
>> possible exclude tiddlers from the tree, the way you can from the
>> sidebar with excludeLists?
>>
>
> Since Treeview is based on tags the excludeLists tag should also work
> here. As long as it hasn't been tagged with a top level tag.

Thanks, wolfgang.

And while I'm at it, glad to see you back on TiddlyWiki GoogleGroup. I  
wondered if you were OK.

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[tw] Re: Here's an example of a tree structure (treeview) implemented on TW

[Eric Weir]

On May 24, 2009, at 5:32 PM, Morris Gray wrote:

> On May 25, 12:05 am, Eric Weir  wrote:
>> Another question, that may already have been answered: will it be
>> possible exclude tiddlers from the tree, the way you can from the
>> sidebar with excludeLists?
>
> The way TWT-Notes-Exp is set up TheTop Level tiddler name is the tag
> for all of it's children. And that's the same for the top level
> tiddler of any branch.  If you want childA removed just remove it's
> tag.  Or by using the name of  childB as a tag for childA then  you
> can merge childA beneath childB.
>
> By the same token you can merge one complete tree structure into any
> branch of another structure by simply changing one tag.  Likewise you
> can break off a branch of any size from a structure by changing one
> tag.
>
> . . . .
>
> With TWT-Notes-Exp, because it automatically updates the tree, using
> the TaggerPlugin you can sit and watch the structure reorder itself
> as you change tags.  You can remove a branch while the rest of the
> tree pulls up the remaining structure and welds itself back together.
> It's much more fun that dragging and dropping :-) It's action from a
> distance.

I was almost going to say this gives me everything I want, but there's  
a situation I'm certain I'll want to do frequently that's not taken  
care of: I can't reorder list of tiddlers at the same level in the  
tree, say move one from lower down in the list to higher up on the  
same level, e.g., where each tiddler contains a paragraph of a  
document and I want the paragraphs to appear in an order other than  
alphabetic.

I suppose that could be taken care of by composing topics to indicate  
order in a list as well as the content of the tiddler, which I've been  
doing anyway.

Still, while it doesn't give me quite give me everything I want, it  
almost does. [I have an old DOS "outlining" program that I miss  very  
much, and I'm probably subconsciously hoping that TreeView will  
eventually let me do all the things I used to do with it. Nothing ever  
will. It was/is genuinely unique. [I put "outlining" in quotes because  
calling it that doesn't begin to do it justice. It was more an idea  
capturer, organizer, and reorganizing.] I've pleaded with the  
developer to adapt it to run as a command driven application in Linux  
and OS X. He's promised he will, but it keeps not appearing. Oh how I  
miss it.]

>
> Now people might start understanding TiddlyWiki better and it having
> broader appeal with the non-linear chaos taking shape and gaining some
> order. . . .

My bet is they will.

> Well done Mark

Amen. Amen. Amen.

Thanks to both of you.

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[tw] Re: TagglyTaggingPlugin suggestion

[Simon Baird]

On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 9:57 AM, RA  wrote:

>
> > I don't think I understand what you are achieving here. Can you explain a
> > little?
> >
> > Simon.
> >
>
> The way TagglyTaggingPlugin remembers the settings is by creating a
> tiddler for each tag or tag expression. Suppose I have a macro call
>
> <>
>
> The macro generates a list and a menu. If I change grouping or order
> of the list using the provided menu, I will have created a tiddler
> called
>
> tool&&!excludeTaggly
>
> I don't want to see that tiddler anywhere so I am adding excludeXxx
> tags to it after it has just been created (changecount==1). I am also
> checking that there are no tiddlers tagged by this one, because I
> don't want to hide the tiddler if it's also a tag (which would be an
> unlikely case for an expression, but very likely for a single tag,
> e.g. <>). Finally, I categorize the tiddler as
> tagglyExpression, just because I like to.
>
>

That makes perfect sense. I'd semi-forgotten about that stuff and come to
think of it I don't recall hearing about anyone using the expr param
before...!

So, thanks, it's a great suggestion, I will include it the next time I'm
doing a MPTW release.

Ps, your pastebin has expired. If you have a chance, could you throw it up
there again?


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[tw] Re: now Alternate Time Systems in TW- major thread drift.

[Morris Gray]

Hi Tim,

I can't seem to find what thread I read that sent me to your site
maybe I dreamed it.  This will have to do.

Wow I've just checked it out.  Great work!

I've downloaded it and was amazed. Exactly what I wanted, a running
clock and a journal time stamp.  I've been waiting since 220° 32' 24-
Oct1999 to see that.

Please don't merge my part without a trace I want it as a stand alone
and I have another unique idea for you when you get the present
project done.  I'v e got a couple of other derivative uses for it.
NET is a single time on its own to the exclusion of all others.  I
want to use it to gather a following, to communicate using it and
bring up our children in our own time :-)

One question with the  call sometimes it has a place to put
text or label like this. <>.I'd like to put a prefix or suffix or
link on the same level as the clock. Can that be done?

Morris
Co-signed by 50% of members of the Odd Times Society



On May 24, 11:16 pm, rtimwest  wrote:
> Bare bones/pre-Alpha "New Earth Time" version of plugin done, works in
> DigitalClock for real-time, works in journal entries, currently but
> temporarily running on my site.
>
> I'll incorporate this functionality in the final version, but I'm
> shifting my attention to that now unless there are serious bugs in
> this temporary code.
>
> This uses the new [UTC] [/UTC] delimiter for UTC date/time strings (in
> addition to local, of course). Next step is probably to blend the
> Swatch Internet Time and New Earth Time specific code into one
> program, then add the "delta" to the UTC delimiter for [UTC+5], etc.
> (at which point the syntax will work for Biel/Internet Time as well)..
> then [LOCAL-5] (to help cope with DST) etc...
>
> At this point, that's the end of the plans for this, we'll see if
> there's a THIRD person on the planet interested. ;-)
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[tw] Re: image: thumb + popup?

[wolfgang]

> > Also the lightweight RolloverPlugin would be a further option to
> > display a full scale image upon hovering over a thumbnail:
>
> Try this new 'pure HTML' tiddler:
>http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ThumbThing
>

Great work, Eric! And even more 'light' with no dependencies. For a
non-developer this appears all like magic.

> – unfortunately the tidler where I insert the < with: image thumbWidth thumbHeight fullWidth fullHeight>> nothing
> appears.
> Same problem here -
> I tried:  100px>> - no luck

I tested it with the online TW of Eric itself, by entering the
following in a new tiddler there:

<>
<>

And I was truly amazed.

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[tw] Re: image: thumb + popup?

[Måns]

Hi

Same problem here -
I tried: > - no luck
I also tried:
<> for a tiddler
with a field named image... - no luck either..

YS Måns Mårtensson

On May 24, 11:23 pm, lerone  wrote:
> hey,
>
> great, looks just like what I was looking for also!
>
> – unfortunately the tidler where I insert the < with: image thumbWidth thumbHeight fullWidth fullHeight>> nothing
> appears.
> anything I could check? (I had a similar proble with the great
> similarTiddlers-plugin; maybe there is something fundamental I should
> check to be able to insert these "<<...>>"-functions?!)
>
> thanks already
>
> On 24 Mai, 19:46, Eric Shulman  wrote:
>
> > > Also the lightweight RolloverPlugin would be a further option to
> > > display a full scale image upon hovering over a thumbnail:
>
> > Try this new 'pure HTML' tiddler:
> >    http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ThumbThing
>
> > Usage:
> >         < > fullHeight>>
> > Where:
> >         'image' is a local path/file or a remote URL reference to a GIF, 
> > JPG,
> > or PNG file
> >         thumbWidth, thumbHeight, fullWidth, fullHeight are CSS measurements
> > Notes:
> >         * omit fullWidth/fullHeight for full-sized popup image
> >         * use 'auto' for default image height and/or width
> >         * for proportional scaling, specify only width OR height and use
> > 'auto' for other dimension
>
> > enjoy,
> > -e
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[tw] Re: Here's an example of a tree structure (treeview) implemented on TW

[Morris Gray]

On May 25, 12:05 am, Eric Weir  wrote:
> Another question, that may already have been answered: will it be
> possible exclude tiddlers from the tree, the way you can from the
> sidebar with excludeLists?

The way TWT-Notes-Exp is set up TheTop Level tiddler name is the tag
for all of it's children. And that's the same for the top level
tiddler of any branch.  If you want childA removed just remove it's
tag.  Or by using the name of  childB as a tag for childA then  you
can merge childA beneath childB.

By the same token you can merge one complete tree structure into any
branch of another structure by simply changing one tag.  Likewise you
can break off a branch of any size from a structure by changing one
tag.

This is the original structure of TWT Notes.  I have inserted whole
original TWT-Notes structures into Treeview without changing anything
except removing a piece of extraneous code from the contents of the
second level tiddler.

With TWT-Notes-Exp, because it automatically updates the tree, using
the TaggerPlugin you can sit and watch the structure reorder itself
as you change tags.  You can remove a branch while the rest of the
tree pulls up the remaining structure and welds itself back together.
It's much more fun that dragging and dropping :-) It's action from a
distance.

You can built structures just as easily, by clicking on 'make
subtopic' in the toolbar you can   add a tiddler or a branch at any
level simply with one click. Then reorder them with Tagger if need be.

Now people might start understanding TiddlyWiki better and it having
broader appeal with the non-linear chaos taking shape and gaining some
order.  The days might be coming to an end of chasing tiddlers up and
down the screen and when you click on something seeing tiddlers scroll
by like a demented gaming machine in Las Vegas:-)

Well done Mark.

http://twt-notes-treeview-experimental.tiddlyspot.com/index.html

Morris

On May 25, 12:05 am, Eric Weir  wrote:
> Another question, that may already have been answered: will it be  
> possible exclude tiddlers from the tree, the way you can from the  
> sidebar with excludeLists?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> --
> Eric Weir
> Decatur, GA  USA
> eew...@bellsouth.net
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[tw] Re: image: thumb + popup?

[lerone]

hey,

great, looks just like what I was looking for also!

– unfortunately the tidler where I insert the <> nothing
appears.
anything I could check? (I had a similar proble with the great
similarTiddlers-plugin; maybe there is something fundamental I should
check to be able to insert these "<<...>>"-functions?!)

thanks already

On 24 Mai, 19:46, Eric Shulman  wrote:
> > Also the lightweight RolloverPlugin would be a further option to
> > display a full scale image upon hovering over a thumbnail:
>
> Try this new 'pure HTML' tiddler:
>    http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ThumbThing
>
> Usage:
>         < fullHeight>>
> Where:
>         'image' is a local path/file or a remote URL reference to a GIF, JPG,
> or PNG file
>         thumbWidth, thumbHeight, fullWidth, fullHeight are CSS measurements
> Notes:
>         * omit fullWidth/fullHeight for full-sized popup image
>         * use 'auto' for default image height and/or width
>         * for proportional scaling, specify only width OR height and use
> 'auto' for other dimension
>
> enjoy,
> -e
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[tw] Re: image: thumb + popup?

[Eric Shulman]

> Also the lightweight RolloverPlugin would be a further option to
> display a full scale image upon hovering over a thumbnail:

Try this new 'pure HTML' tiddler:
   http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ThumbThing

Usage:
<>
Where:
'image' is a local path/file or a remote URL reference to a GIF, JPG,
or PNG file
thumbWidth, thumbHeight, fullWidth, fullHeight are CSS measurements
Notes:
* omit fullWidth/fullHeight for full-sized popup image
* use 'auto' for default image height and/or width
* for proportional scaling, specify only width OR height and use
'auto' for other dimension

enjoy,
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[tw] Re: Here's an example of a tree structure (treeview) implemented on TW

[Mark S.]

For this particular tree structure, I don't think you'd have to rename
all tags.

   root
 root.a
  a.Jonas
  a.Silas
Silas.Bod
 root.b
  b.Coraline
  b.OtherMother

where the dot notation indicates:

tagname(parent branch).node(leaf).name

Then to move "Bod" to "OtherMother" would only require renaming the
"Silas" tag on "OtherMother" to "Coraline" :

   root
 root.a
  a.Jonas
  a.Silas
 root.b
  b.Coraline
  b.OtherMother
OtherMother.Bod

Or to then move the entire "a" branch below "Coraline", just change
the "root" tag on "a" to "Coraline" :

   root
 root.b
  b.Coraline
Coraline.a
  a.Jonas
  a.Silas
  b.OtherMother
OtherMother.Bod

But I'm new at this, so may be missing some more complicated
situation.

Its the dragging and dropping that worries me, since its not in the
library and would probably require wading through the treeview code.
What could be feasible is to put a button or link on each branch for
cutting. Click on the button to cut, and then click on another branch
button to paste. The tags get renamed, and when its sorted out, the
branch or leaf has been moved.

Thanks,
Mark


On May 24, 6:39 am, wolfgang  wrote:
> > > Might it be possible to provide for rearranging items in the tree,
> > > e.g., by dragging?
>
> > This capability isn't in the native treeview menu code. We can hope
> > that they might add it some day. I can imagine some ways to emulate it
> > a bit ... but is a bit mind-numbing.
>
> It is mind-numbing, since it would have to retag all tiddlers, if you
> dragged a top-level tiddler somewhere else all at once. A batch
> process which is only possible now with intermediated steps with tools
> as:
>
> http://lewcid.org/tiddlywiki-bookmarklets/RenameAllTaggedhttp://yann.perrin.googlepages.com/twkd.html#TemplatedTagToolshttp://ido-xp.tiddlyspot.com/#MultiTagEditorPluginhttp://www.tiddlytools.com/#TiddlerTweaker
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[tw] Re: Here's an example of a tree structure (treeview) implemented on TW

[wolfgang]

Hi Eric,

> Another question, that may already have been answered: will it be
> possible exclude tiddlers from the tree, the way you can from the
> sidebar with excludeLists?
>

Since Treeview is based on tags the excludeLists tag should also work
here. As long as it hasn't been tagged with a top level tag.

regards..
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[tw] Re: Here's an example of a tree structure (treeview) implemented on TW

[wolfgang]

> > Might it be possible to provide for rearranging items in the tree,
> > e.g., by dragging?
>
> This capability isn't in the native treeview menu code. We can hope
> that they might add it some day. I can imagine some ways to emulate it
> a bit ... but is a bit mind-numbing.
>

It is mind-numbing, since it would have to retag all tiddlers, if you
dragged a top-level tiddler somewhere else all at once. A batch
process which is only possible now with intermediated steps with tools
as:

http://lewcid.org/tiddlywiki-bookmarklets/ RenameAllTagged
http://yann.perrin.googlepages.com/twkd.html#TemplatedTagTools
http://ido-xp.tiddlyspot.com/#MultiTagEditorPlugin
http://www.tiddlytools.com/#TiddlerTweaker

but maybe there's the possibility for integrating for example the
bookmarklet RenameAllTagged for this purpose somehow?

regards..
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[tw] Re: Here's an example of a tree structure (treeview) implemented on TW

[Eric Weir]

Another question, that may already have been answered: will it be  
possible exclude tiddlers from the tree, the way you can from the  
sidebar with excludeLists?

Thanks in advance,
--
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Decatur, GA  USA
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[tw] Re: image: thumb + popup?

[wolfgang]

> > > One way is the use of PopupPreviewPlugin
>
> > I'm thinking there must be another way - I just couldn't find any
> > mention of how to define a popup link in TW.
>
> > You might want to try
> >http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ImageSizePlugin
>
> A third way could be the combined use of ShowPopup and SetIconPlugin,
> both of TiddlyTools too. Untested though.
>
> http://www.tiddlytools.com/#ShowPopuphttp://www.tiddlytools.com/#SetIconPlugin
>
> Finally - what would seem to make most sense - is to forget about
> popups and use light boxes instead:
>
> http://tw.lewcid.org/#TiddlyLightBoxDocs
>

Also the lightweight RolloverPlugin would be a further option to
display a full scale image upon hovering over a thumbnail:

http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~dellaert/dhtml/tiddly.html

Though it's already old in terms of TiddlyWiki Plugins, it still works
as I just saw in the latest TW of Elise Springer:

https://wesfiles.wesleyan.edu/home/espringer/web/#%5B%5Bresearch%20project%5D%5D
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[tw] Re: Getting a "first line-script" into a table

[Måns]

Hi
At last I made it work with the script inside the fET.
I had to abandon the sliderframe.
The result is vewable here: 
http://bibtw.tiddlyspot.com/index.html#Books%26Articles

Code:
<= 1 ? m[1] : "";
 }
 '
write
'(index < 200)? "|"+(index+1)+"|[["+tiddler.title+"]] |
[["+tiddler.data("author")+"]] | [["+tiddler.data("primtopic")+"]] |
[img(3em+,)["+store.getValue(tiddler,"title")+" |"+store.getValue
(tiddler,"image")+"]["+tiddler.title+"]] | [["+tiddler.title+"-note]]
| [["+tiddler.data("location")+"]] |<|>|>|>|>|>|>|>| !<\> |h\n"
+"| # | [[Title|By title]] | [[Author|Bibliography by author]] |
[[Topic|By primary topic]] | !Cover | [[Note|NoteArchive]] | <\> | Edit |h\n"'
end 'count+" books and articles\n"' none '"no books or articles\n"'>>

YS Måns Mårtensson

On 24 Maj, 02:32, Måns  wrote:
> Hi TwWizards
>
> I'm trying to get the first line of text from tiddlers fetched by fET
> into a table...
> I often need to refer to the firstline of a tiddler - and keep it as
> one line - not to break a table, so I would appreciate any help on
> this matter..
>
> I've tried to do it like this (and I get < < sortBy 'tiddler.fields["title"]'
>  script
>  '
> function getFirstLine(s) {
>  var m = s.match(/\s*(.*)/);
>  return m != null && m.length >= 1 ? m[1] : "";
>  }
>  '
> write
> '(index < 200)? "|"+(index+1)+"|[["+tiddler.title+"]] |
> [["+tiddler.data("author")+"]] | [["+tiddler.data("primtopic")+"]] |
> [img(3em+,)["+store.getValue(tiddler,"title")+" |"+store.getValue
> (tiddler,"image")+"]["+tiddler.title+"]] | [["+tiddler.title+"-note]]
> | [["+tiddler.data("location")+"]] | < +"]]$)) | *< ~~//"+getFirstLine(tiddler.text)+"//~~ |\n" : ""'
>               begin '"|sortable|k\n"
> +"|>|>|>|>|>|>|>|>| !<\> |h\n"
> +"| # | [[Title|By title]] | [[Author|Bibliography by author]] |
> [[Topic|By primary topic]] | !Cover | [[Note|NoteArchive]] | < Location\>\> | Edit |h\n"'
> end 'count+" books\n"' none '"no books\n"'>>
>
> I wonder if I could use a tiddler with the script instead - and put it
> into the table afterwards. The script in a tiddler called
> "FirstLines":
> <  where
>  'tiddler.tags.contains(context.viewerTiddler.title)' ??
>  script
>  '
> function getFirstLine(s) {
>  var m = s.match(/\s*(.*)/);
>  return m != null && m.length >= 1 ? m[1] : "";
>  }
>  '
> write
> '"*< ~~//"+getFirstLine(tiddler.text)+"//~~\n"'
>
>  Put it in a table:
> < sortBy 'tiddler.fields["title"]'
> write
> '(index < 200)? "|"+(index+1)+"|[["+tiddler.title+"]] |
> [["+tiddler.data("author")+"]] | [["+tiddler.data("primtopic")+"]] |
> [img(3em+,)["+store.getValue(tiddler,"title")+" |"+store.getValue
> (tiddler,"image")+"]["+tiddler.title+"]] | [["+tiddler.title+"-note]]
> | [["+tiddler.data("location")+"]] | < +"]]$)) <\> |\n" : ""'
>               begin '"|sortable|k\n"
> +"|>|>|>|>|>|>|>|>| !<\> |h\n"
> +"| # | [[Title|By title]] | [[Author|Bibliography by author]] |
> [[Topic|By primary topic]] | !Cover | [[Note|NoteArchive]] | < Location\>\> | Edit |h\n"'
> end 'count+" books\n"' none '"no books\n"'>>
>
> I've tried - with no effect.
> I believe that it is due to a wrong expression in the fET here: where
>  'tiddler.tags.contains(context.viewerTiddler.title)'
>
> When I use this expression it's referring to the tiddler in which the
> table is and not the tiddler fetched by the fET..
> I'm sure I've done this before - but I can't remember...
>
> If you'd like to have a look at the table - and maybe give it a
> try:http://bibtw.tiddlyspot.com/#Books%26Articles
>
> The FirstLines script/fET:http://bibtw.tiddlyspot.com/#FirstLines
>
> YS Måns Mårtensson
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[tw] Re: now Alternate Time Systems in TW- major thread drift.

[rtimwest]

Bare bones/pre-Alpha "New Earth Time" version of plugin done, works in
DigitalClock for real-time, works in journal entries, currently but
temporarily running on my site.

I'll incorporate this functionality in the final version, but I'm
shifting my attention to that now unless there are serious bugs in
this temporary code.

This uses the new [UTC] [/UTC] delimiter for UTC date/time strings (in
addition to local, of course). Next step is probably to blend the
Swatch Internet Time and New Earth Time specific code into one
program, then add the "delta" to the UTC delimiter for [UTC+5], etc.
(at which point the syntax will work for Biel/Internet Time as well)..
then [LOCAL-5] (to help cope with DST) etc...

At this point, that's the end of the plans for this, we'll see if
there's a THIRD person on the planet interested. ;-)


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[tw] Re: Possible source of intermittent JavaScript problems?

[Daniel Baird]

Roger, I'd try disabling all the firefox plugins on the troublesome system.

;Daniel

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 7:56 AM, roger  wrote:
>
> At our office we have a computer that seems to have intermittent
> problems running JavaScript with our TW files.  The user complained
> about frequent problems where he would put a TW file into edit mode,
> enter info into a tiddler, then click done.  At that point the browser
> (FF3.0.8) would lock up rather than save the changes that had been
> made to the TW.  (autosave changes is turned on).  Our TW files also
> use the TiddlyLockPlugin and I've noticed that this particular
> computer can't create the .lck file used by TiddlyLockPlugin.  If
> the .lck file exists, then the TW can interact with the .lck file, but
> if the .lck file is missing, then it doesn't get created.  If the .lck
> file is missing then any attempt to put the TW into edit mode will
> cause the browser to lock up.  In both cases (editing a TW as well as
> failing to create a .lck file) the browser doesn't generate any error
> messages or script warnings.
>
> We have a couple other computers that have the same problem with the
> creation of the .lck file, but those machines don't have any problem
> editing the TW files.  At least, not to my knowledge.
>
> In the past I've searched for reasons for this type of behavior, but
> haven't had any luck.  I installed Firebug on one of the problem PC's
> in the past, but I couldn't see any JavaScript errors with the help of
> that plugin either.  I've tested the problem out with other versions
> of FF and that didn't make a difference.  File permissions for these
> machines are identical with the file permissions on the computers that
> don't have any problems working with our TW files.  I'm wondering if
> anyone here might be able to shed some light onto the problem.
>
> ~Roger
>
> >
>



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[tw] Re: Download.php or one click download

[Daniel Baird]

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 7:55 PM, wolfgang  wrote:
>
>> Does tiddlyspot use something similar?
>
> Yes, just add /download to any tiddlyspot site and it will download
> that particular site with a left click.


At tiddlyspot you get the last saved version of your tiddlywiki; so if
you didn't save your last changes, you wouldn't get them in the
download.

I think the tiddlytools thing would actually do an
upload-then-download, so you would get all you current modifications.

Cheers
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[tw] Re: Treeview comments and bugs

[IainS]

After spending some time I got treeview to work but only be modifying
the existing Main Menu like this

@@padding-left:2em;font-size:1.1em;color:#c06;[[Treeview .23 menu
trial|Topic]]@@

<>


{{textcenter{<>}}}

When I put in treeview1 it gave me an error message error in macro
<> so is something missing in the experiment??

I think this really useful (maybe we can call its developers "the
Goodies") and I can see how it can make TW Notes much better.

How would it be implemented on existing TW- Notes?
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[tw] Re: Javascript gurus...

[FND]

> I considered [posting to the dev group], but frankly I hesitated
> because I have no idea what many of the posts over there are about
> or what their norms are, and I had a feeling that basic,
> not-TW-specific questions might not be considered appropriate there

No need to worry about that; generally speaking, we try to discuss very 
technical issues (like below's somewhat obscure RegEx) in that setting.

> I tend to resist a character-scan approach. Once you open one up
> enough to allow decimals, signs etc., it also tends to pass things
> like "--", "." and "834.234.343" which won't convert, or
> shouldn't, and code to tighten a character-scan approach beyond that
> level tends to get very elaborate and error-prone.

I can very much see where you're coming from - though in this case, that 
might be (relatively) easy:
 if(testStr.search(/^-?\d+(\.\d+)?$/) != -1) { ... }

Anyway, this is just presenting options; I'm sure your original approach 
will be fine - and if you end up discovering a bug, we can worry about 
that then.


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