[tw] Re: Switch sides for Story Board and TOC

2014-11-12 Thread Mat
I think what Captain Packers is asking is simply if it is possible to the 
sidebar on the left side instead.

The only answers I can give are an unhelpful yes, that should be possible 
and that maybe you can find help in Ton Gerners guide tw5topleft 
http://tw5topleft.tiddlyspot.com/. I'm really struggling to understand 
these things myself.

:-)

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:21:03 PM UTC+1, Birthe C wrote:

 I am not sure I understand. You might have a look at 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/jCcgoAwWwmk/9dm7RgVGK5sJ. An 
 example by Dave Gifford. It is an older TW5 version though.


 Birthe

 Den tirsdag den 11. november 2014 16.29.21 UTC+1 skrev Captain Packers:

 Is it possible to have the table of contents on the left and the Story 
 Board or Tiddlers on the right hand side of the browser window?



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Re: [tw] [TW5] Add icons to the title based on tags

2014-11-12 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Danielo

I'm sure you know this, but the core does already allow a single icon to be
assigned to tiddlers that is then displayed in the tag pill and in the
tiddler title bar. For example:

http://tiddlywiki.com/#done

Another approach for what you're trying to do would be to add a new
viewtemplate segment that just shows the icons corresponding to the tags on
the current tiddler. Then you'd put that segment near the top of the
viewtemplate, and use CSS to position the icons as best you can.

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Danielo Rodríguez rdani...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hello everyone.

 Recently I found an entry on my personal wiki on how to use svg images
 within TW, specifically for buttons.  Then I remembered that someone made a
 customization to add icons to certain types of links. That inspired me and
 I decided to add icons to tiddler's title based on tags to easily identify
 them. I succeed on my objective partially: I can add one icon, two at
 maximum. The problem is that I'm using a combination of css pseudo elements
 (like before) and backgrounds. Could someone help me to get a list of icons
 of any length?

 Here is what I get:


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fZOcFO52_lg/VGMKk5OCe5I/LlI/UeAcFYbAP2Q/s1600/iconsExample.PNG
 Here is the CSS:

 .tc-tagged-linux .tc-tiddler-title .tc-title {
 background: url(datauri tux.svg) center left no-repeat;
 padding-left: 38px;
 }

 .tc-tagged-snippets .tc-tiddler-title .tc-title {
 background-image: url(datauri snippet.svg);
 background-position: center left;
 background-repeat: no-repeat;
 padding-left: 38px;
 }

 .tc-tagged-javascript .tc-tiddler-title .tc-title::before
 { display: inline-block;
   content: ' ';
   background-image: url(datauri js.svg);
   background-size: 30px 30px;
   height: 28px;
   width: 28px;
 }


 Thanks for any support.

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Re: [tw] Re: Switch sides for Story Board and TOC

2014-11-12 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Captain Packers

 Is it possible to have the table of contents on the left and the Story
Board or Tiddlers on the right hand side of the browser window?

As Mat says, Ton has a guide for achieving the layout you want:

http://tw5topleft.tiddlyspot.com/

Best wishes

Jeremy.



On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Mat matiasg...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think what Captain Packers is asking is simply if it is possible to the
 sidebar on the left side instead.

 The only answers I can give are an unhelpful yes, that should be
 possible and that maybe you can find help in Ton Gerners guide tw5topleft
 http://tw5topleft.tiddlyspot.com/. I'm really struggling to understand
 these things myself.

 :-)


 On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:21:03 PM UTC+1, Birthe C wrote:

 I am not sure I understand. You might have a look at
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/jCcgoAwWwmk/9dm7RgVGK5sJ. An
 example by Dave Gifford. It is an older TW5 version though.


 Birthe

 Den tirsdag den 11. november 2014 16.29.21 UTC+1 skrev Captain Packers:

 Is it possible to have the table of contents on the left and the Story
 Board or Tiddlers on the right hand side of the browser window?

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Add icons to the title based on tags

2014-11-12 Thread Danielo Rodríguez


El miércoles, 12 de noviembre de 2014 09:35:15 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston 
escribió:

 Hi Danielo

 I'm sure you know this, but the core does already allow a single icon to 
 be assigned to tiddlers that is then displayed in the tag pill and in the 
 tiddler title bar. For example:

 http://tiddlywiki.com/#done

 I discovered it today, after making my question and I come here to post 
that I realized exactly that. For my surprise you answered me exactly what 
I was going to say, so anyway, thank you! I was going to point also: is not 
possible to accept a icon list instead a single icon? I don't think is too 
much work.
 

 Another approach for what you're trying to do would be to add a new 
 viewtemplate segment that just shows the icons corresponding to the tags on 
 the current tiddler. Then you'd put that segment near the top of the 
 viewtemplate, and use CSS to position the icons as best you can.

 How can I position that viewtemplate near to the title? In my experience 
my custom viewtemplates are appended to the bottom of the tiddler.

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[tw] Re: tw5 question about thumbnails and links to external image files

2014-11-12 Thread PMario
On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:17:57 PM UTC+1, steve wrote:

 I am using the high resolution tiff format for now because that is what is 
 generated by the Mac OS grab utility.
 In practice I would switch to another smaller image format.


If you use it for sceen shots, tiff isn't needed at all. IMO gif is still 
the best image format for screenshots, if you don't need transparency. 
Since sceen shots have huge portions of the same pixels, gif creates small 
*lossless* files 

For sceenshots jpg is crap since it always produces rendering artefacts at 
text and can't produce lossless images, like tiff or gif. 

gif is not good for real world images ... there jpg has its strength.

just my 2cents
mario

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Add icons to the title based on tags

2014-11-12 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Danielo

is not possible to accept a icon list instead a single icon? I don't think
 is too much work.


Do you mean would it be possible to list the icons corresponding to the
tags on the tiddler, rather than the icon corresponding to the tiddler
itself?




 Another approach for what you're trying to do would be to add a new
 viewtemplate segment that just shows the icons corresponding to the tags on
 the current tiddler. Then you'd put that segment near the top of the
 viewtemplate, and use CSS to position the icons as best you can.

 How can I position that viewtemplate near to the title? In my experience
 my custom viewtemplates are appended to the bottom of the tiddler.


Use the list-after and list-before fields:

http://tiddlywiki.com/#Tagging

Best wishes

Jeremy



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Re: [tw] [TW5] Add icons to the title based on tags

2014-11-12 Thread Danielo Rodríguez


Hello Jeremy,

Again, I came here to post something that you already answered me. You are 
right the list before thing should do the trick, thanks. 

Anyway I think the list-before functionality is too hidden, so I opened a 
github issue:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1077 



 Do you mean would it be possible to list the icons corresponding to the 
 tags on the tiddler, rather than the icon corresponding to the tiddler 
 itself?
  

No, I mean putting more than one value in the icon field, like a list, and 
display that list
icon: tux.svg js.svg
 

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Preview of new export button

2014-11-12 Thread Xavier Cazin
Hi Jeremy,

Thank you for the explanation. Actually, for my needs (select a bunch of
tiddlers to bring them from one Node.js-served TiddlyWiki to another one,
the single HTML file would make a good alternative to the uncompressed zip
:-)

Thanks again,
Xavier.

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On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi Xavier


 Probably a very naïve question, but is there a browser constraint for not
 having a folder filled with the selected tiddlers in this case?


 The standard browser download saver can only save a single file at
 once. We could save multiple files in TiddlyFox or TiddlyDesktop.

 I am interested in the possibility of constructing an uncompressed ZIP
 file containing all the files and downloading the ZIP file instead. It
 turns out that the ZIP file format allows for uncompressed files, and it's
 a fairly easy format to write given the good support we've got for binary
 data in JS.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.




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[tw] Re: tw5 question about thumbnails and links to external image files

2014-11-12 Thread Ton Gerner
Or use png which has the same advantages for screen shots: it creates small 
lossless files as well. *And* has transparency possibility.

Cheers,

Ton

On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 9:46:19 AM UTC+1, PMario wrote:

 On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:17:57 PM UTC+1, steve wrote:

 I am using the high resolution tiff format for now because that is what 
 is generated by the Mac OS grab utility.
 In practice I would switch to another smaller image format.


 If you use it for sceen shots, tiff isn't needed at all. IMO gif is still 
 the best image format for screenshots, if you don't need transparency. 
 Since sceen shots have huge portions of the same pixels, gif creates small 
 *lossless* files 

 For sceenshots jpg is crap since it always produces rendering artefacts at 
 text and can't produce lossless images, like tiff or gif. 

 gif is not good for real world images ... there jpg has its strength.

 just my 2cents
 mario


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[tw] Re: [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)

2014-11-12 Thread Felix Küppers
Hi Danielo,

*please wait till friday (or saturday)* for downloading. then it will all 
be bundled and put on github. At the moment the css and the vis library are 
not included as shadow tiddlers. (plus there are many bugs in the online 
version). Its just there for giving you a very simple idea.

Regards Felix

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Re: [tw] Re: Switch sides for Story Board and TOC

2014-11-12 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Ton's Customization goes much furthert than just moving the sidebar to the 
left. It is very cool, but maybe is too much customization for such an easy 
task. Why not including an option in the control panel?

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Another short video of my plugin. showing the filter mechanism

2014-11-12 Thread Felix Küppers
Hi Tobias

I appreciate your thoughts. but it is not possible to change the underlying 
paradigm i am afraid.

I just want to explain how it can easily be done with the functions I will 
provide. Consider your example:

For example, let's say I have the tids...

- Mum
- Dad
- Kiddo

 I may want one *graph* for general relationships showing...

 Mum = parent of = Kiddo
 Dad = parent of = Kiddo
 Mum = married to = Dad (btw. can an edge be bidirectional?)


you create a view *(a node view) *which *filters all tiddlers tagged with 
family* and other filter components may be possible.
additionally you will be able to* select all the edgetypes via checkboxes 
in the menubar you want to be displayed: parent of and married to (this 
is an edge view)*
 

 ...and another more task oriented *graph* that shows...

 Dad  = brings to school = Kiddo
 Mum = brings to bed = Kiddo
 Dad = brings flowers for = Mum


you create a view *(a node view) *which *filters all tiddlers tagged with 
family* and other filter components may be possible. Additionally you 
will be able to *select all the edgetypes via checkboxes in the menubar you 
want to be displayed*: brings to school and brings flowers for *(this 
is an edge view)*

So it can be done, this is most important. Also this is the most convenient 
way for me to handle it in the code because it is all based on filters. In 
a DB you also operate on the same dataset only with different views. 
Because also in a SQL-DB you only get results via select statements which 
are views and the underlying pool of records is the same for all views 
(analog: no nodes belong exclusively to a graph). *Otherwise it would be a 
whole different paradigm that doesn't go well with the view idea.* The 
paradigm I follow is: if you want different results, you need different 
selects (=filters, views). However there will be at one point the 
possibility to add single nodes to a view,  which works in the backend like 
this: filter:title[nodename] and may be represented on a gui level via 
checkboxes.

Regards Felix

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Another short video of my plugin. showing the filter mechanism

2014-11-12 Thread Felix Küppers


On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 3:00:04 AM UTC+1, James wrote:

 Hi Felix, 
 This is really cool!  How could I get it?


Hi James. Thanks. Not yet, please wait till the end of the week. 

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[tw] Re: Link with Custom Title to Section Heading Inside Tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Thomas Schulte
Will this plugin work with Tiddlywiki 5 or isn't it needed in 5?

On Thursday, February 4, 2010 5:19:25 PM UTC-6, Morris Gray wrote:

 On Feb 5, 2:41 am, gigajosh gigaj...@gmail.com wrote:

  See the section below called [[Title|MyNotes##Bottom]]
 
  This doesn't work! The mouse-ver already tells me it's an external
  link, and therefore clicking it obviously fails. It tries to open a
  local file called MyNotes##Bottom in my tiddlywiki's path.
 
  Is this supposed to work? Can anyone assist?

 You need http://www.tiddlytools.com/#SectionLinksPlugin

 Morris

 On Feb 5, 2:41 am, gigajosh gigaj...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi, I'd start by telling you what version of TW I have, but after a
  vigourous search I can't figure that out! so any help on how I
  determine the version would be great, but that's not what this
  question is about..
 
  I'm trying to link from inside a tiddler to a section further down the
  tiddler, BUT note that I'm also trying to add a custom title.
 
  E.G.
 
  My tiddler is called MyNotes.. and there's a heading at the bottom of
  this tiddler called !Bottom
  Now imagine in the body of my tiddler (between the dashed lines) I
  have the following:
 
  ---
 
  See the section below called [[MyNotes##Bottom]]
 
  ---
 
  This gives me a local link. If I click that link it successfully takes
  me to the heading at the bottom of the tiddler called !Bottom -
  Success!
 
  HOWEVER, if I then try to add a custom title to this local link, it
  breaks, and tries to link me externally.. e.g.
 
  
 
  See the section below called [[Title|MyNotes##Bottom]]
 
  
 
  This doesn't work! The mouse-ver already tells me it's an external
  link, and therefore clicking it obviously fails. It tries to open a
  local file called MyNotes##Bottom in my tiddlywiki's path.
 
  Is this supposed to work? Can anyone assist?



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[tw] Re: [TW5] Set img path variable ?

2014-11-12 Thread PMario
Hi Sylvian,

It's relatively simple, but needs some TW background ;)

Create a tiddler named eg: globalImageMacro and *tag *it with: $:/tags/Macro 
to make it a global macro

content: 

\define imageFullPath(image, tooltip, path)
[img[$tooltip$|$path$$image$]]
\end

\define iLink( image, tooltip:image, pathConfig:imagePath)
$macrocall $name=imageFullPath path={{$pathConfig$}} image=$image$ 
tooltip=$tooltip$/
\end


Then create a tiddler named: imagePath   with your base path. eg: 

for a network share: 
file:\COMPUTER_NAME\Users\Mario\Pictures\2010-10\
see: 5 bachslashes !!!

same computer absolute path
file:\\Users\Mario\Pictures\2010-10\

relative path as a subdirectory to the tiddlywiki.html file. 
.\images\

*The backslash at the end is important!!*

---

To get the image use: 

iLink my image with spaces.gif 

The default tooltip is image if you want to change it use: 

iLink my image with spaces.gif tooltip:my tooltip 


The default path config tiddler is: imagePath 
If you want to change it use: 

iLink my image with spaces.gif tooltip:my tooltip 
pathConfig:otherImagePathTiddler 


I did test this on my computer. So it should work :)
-mario

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Set img path variable ?

2014-11-12 Thread PMario
sorry copy paste error :)


same computer absolute path
file:\\c:\Users\Mario\Pictures\2010-10\

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Set img path variable ?

2014-11-12 Thread PMario
,,, and again :)

same computer absolute path
file:\\\c:\Users\Mario\Pictures\2010-10\

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Re: [tw] Re: Switch sides for Story Board and TOC

2014-11-12 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Danielo


 Why not including an option in the control panel?


I'd like to make the layout much more configurable in control panel, but
that work hasn't happened yet.

Best wishes

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Add icons to the title based on tags

2014-11-12 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Danielo




 No, I mean putting more than one value in the icon field, like a list, and
 display that list
 icon: tux.svg js.svg


There is a way to do that. The tiddler named in the icon field is
transcluded by the view template, so you can just include multiple images
within it:

icon - myMultipleIconTiddler

MyMultipleIconTiddler - `{{tux.svg}} {{js.svg}}`

Best wishes

Jeremy.








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[tw] Re: tw5 question about thumbnails and links to external image files

2014-11-12 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 10:03:45 AM UTC+1, Ton Gerner wrote:

 Or use png which has the same advantages for screen shots: it creates 
 small lossless files as well. *And* has transparency possibility.


You are right and it may even create smaller files.

... but gif lets you easily create animaged gif, that's imo supported by 
all browsers. Where else apng [1] is not well supported and not 
standardized :/ 

-m

[1] http://caniuse.com/#search=apng

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[tw] Re: Link with Custom Title to Section Heading Inside Tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Stephan Hradek


Am Mittwoch, 12. November 2014 10:53:45 UTC+1 schrieb Thomas Schulte:

 Will this plugin work with Tiddlywiki 5


No
 

 or isn't it needed in 5?


There is no such thing as a Section in 5.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Another short video of my plugin. showing the filter mechanism

2014-11-12 Thread PMario
On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 4:00:49 PM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote:

 To me, a graph displays relations between tiddlers and the overhead of 
 having to use dedicated tags to relate tiddlers to a given view seems 
 redundant, to some extend bloating a tiddlers metadata.


At first, I had the same feeling. But not anymore. ... 
As our TWs tend to grow, imo we need to add more tags anyway to group our 
tiddlers. Since TW filters can be very complex, I think it's possible to 
have good control. 

I actually like the additional (curated) edge layer. It acts like an index 
and gives as very fast access to tiddlers with a special attribute, without 
the need, to modify the tiddler. 
On the other hand, it introduces some syncing problems for export / import 
and in an multi user, multi wiki environment. (But we can deal with this 
later :)

If the TW is new, and has just some tiddlers, actually _no_ tag/filter is 
needed at all. We can work with the whole set. ... As discussed in the last 
hangout #68 [2] the vis library even has a clustering function [1]. IMO 
it's not used at the moment. ... but it's there. So it should be possible 
to handle a large ammount of tiddlers in the same view, if needed.

There is one more thing, I'm interested in. ... It's the TWs hidden 
structure. 

By hidden structure I mean ... references, tags, tagging. This structure 
is created automatically, when tiddlers are added and refactored. 
References may change, if you rewrite tiddler content. Tiddlers may be 
splitted  I'd like to make this structure visible. We also did discuss 
this a little bit at hangout #68. ...

So I'm looking forward to mess with the code ;)


@Felix, 
Don't be scared :) by the number of requests that pop up from all sides. 
That happens if you create something interesting :) As I said in the 
hangout. Make *your core thing *work. Extensions can be made later.

IMO it's good that you expose a lot of configuration data as json tiddlers. 
We can mess around with them. 
As Jeremy said, the core may provide easy UI access for those parameters, 
because the core also needs this feature. 
So you can focus on the vis.js stuff at the moment :)

have fun!
mario

[1] http://visjs.org/docs/graph.html#Clustering
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8G6BEQpvW0

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Re: [tw] Re: Link with Custom Title to Section Heading Inside Tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Thomas Schulte
How can I make a link within a tiddler to a subsection without turning it
into a html file in TW5?

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 5:24 AM, Stephan Hradek stephan.hra...@gmail.com
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 Am Mittwoch, 12. November 2014 10:53:45 UTC+1 schrieb Thomas Schulte:

 Will this plugin work with Tiddlywiki 5


 No


 or isn't it needed in 5?


 There is no such thing as a Section in 5.

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Re: [tw] Re: Link with Custom Title to Section Heading Inside Tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Stephan Hradek


Am Mittwoch, 12. November 2014 12:31:38 UTC+1 schrieb Thomas Schulte:

 How can I make a link within a tiddler to a subsection


There is no subsection.
 

 without turning it into a html file in TW5?


You can freely insert HTML in a tiddler without setting its type to be 
text/html 

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Add icons to the title based on tags

2014-11-12 Thread Danielo Rodríguez


 There is a way to do that. The tiddler named in the icon field is 
 transcluded by the view template, so you can just include multiple images 
 within it:

 icon - myMultipleIconTiddler

 MyMultipleIconTiddler - `{{tux.svg}} {{js.svg}}`


Cool! maybe this is the way to go! A tiddler that calls svg tiddlers based 
on tags. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Preview of new export button

2014-11-12 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Since export to tid files is already posible, and tiddlyfox and 
tiddlydesktop allows you to access the filesystem, will be some kind of 
sync-adaptor to the local filesystem like node does?

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[tw] Re: tw5 question about thumbnails and links to external image files

2014-11-12 Thread steve


Mark

The simplest thing for me to do right now is to stop using tiff. I have a 
small number of images and it is easy for me to convert them to jpg using 
preview.

You are correct that what I wanted to do was to reveal the full image in 
the same place. I used a twc utility called ThumbThing (from Eric Shulman, 
see http://www.tiddlytools.com/#ThumbThing) that worked this way (see 
attachment). I used the utility to randomly select a file (from a list of 
locally stored pictures), automatically display it as thumbnail, click on 
thumbnail to show the full image, and click on the full image to hide it.

Steve Wharton


On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 11:35:12 PM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:



 On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 7:12:53 AM UTC-8, steve wrote:

 An Update:

 I tried a number of ways (see below) to display the images 
 screenshot.jpg and screenshot.tiff in a tiddler. The files 
 screenshot.jpg and screenshot.tiff are in the same directory as the html 
 file. I'm using Firefox. The problem appears to be the .tiff format

  

 2. The imageit macro does work with the screenshot.JPG image, but it 
 opens the full image in a new tab.
 imageit screenshot.jpg

 That was the intention ;-)

 I guess what you want is to click on it and reveal it in the same place? I 
 think something like that could be done by using the reveal macro.

 AFAIK, Safari is the only browser that even attempts to support tif 
 format. My guess is that it has only partial support and that is why the 
 scaled image just shows up as an outline. You might search if there is a 
 plugin for Safari that will allow scalable tifs.

 The more universal solution would be to use a batch utility to convert 
 your tifs to jpegs. 

 And/or, use a batch utility to create your thumbs as tifs in a 
 sub-directory (e.g. myimages/thumbs) and then have the macro reveal the 
 thumb until a button is clicked, whereupon it shows the full-size version. 
 The main thing is, as long as the images are tif format they're not going 
 to be viewed correctly on other browsers.

 Mark  


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Preview of new export button

2014-11-12 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Danielo

Since export to tid files is already posible, and tiddlyfox and
 tiddlydesktop allows you to access the filesystem, will be some kind of
 sync-adaptor to the local filesystem like node does?


Yes, one of the possibilities is to have the filesystemadaptor running in
TiddlyFox/TiddlyDesktop. But that's a different concern than enabling
export of multiple files; with export there's no synchronisation.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Set img path variable ?

2014-11-12 Thread Sylvain Naudin
Thank you Mario for your quick reply !! That exactly what I want :)

Now I can just edit my imagePath tiddler to switch my work environment.

I also try with an URL (if I store images on a webserver) and it's OK.

(absolute path like file:\\Users\Mario\Pictures\2010-10\ doesn't work for 
me on Windows and Firefox).


Thanks you again,
Sylvain

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Another short video of my plugin. showing the filter mechanism

2014-11-12 Thread Felix Küppers
Hi Mario,

Make *your core thing *work. Extensions can be made later.


yes, I will do that! :)

I hope it's all done by the weekend. I already locked my room and 
deliberately isolated myself from all my friends and family to finalize the 
plugin code ;)

Regards
Felix

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[tw] Re: Tiddler History

2014-11-12 Thread Sylvain Naudin


Le mercredi 12 novembre 2014 08:35:55 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez a écrit :

 Hi blake,

 I am working on a plugin to provide versions history to TW, but it is on a 
 very early stage and currently is just manual.
 Regards


Sounds great ;)
I'll use it ! 
Sylvain

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[tw] [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Stephan Hradek
I just wanted to create a small input form. I tlooks something like this:

|!Username |$edit-text tiddler=$:/temp/newuser placeholder=username tag
=input type=text/ |
|!First Name |$edit-text tiddler=$:/temp/newuser field=firstname 
placeholder=first name tag=input type=text/ |
|!Last Name |$edit-text tiddler=$:/temp/newuser field=lastname 
placeholder=last name tag=input type=text/ |
|!E-Mail |$edit-text tiddler=$:/temp/newuser field=email 
placeholder=e-mail 
address tag=input type=text/ |
|!sometags |$checkbox... /example shortened/ 

So when I fill these fields, I'm supposed to get a tiddler $:/temp/newuser 
where 
names and e-mail are stored in fields and the text is the user's username:

title: $:/temp/newuser
tags: some tags which were set
text: Skeeve
firstname: Stephan
lastname: hradek
email: witheld

Now I wanted to create a button which would create from this a tiddler 
titled Skeeve and has all the fields and tags of the temporary folder.

I can't imagine how to safely do that.

When I use a skeleton tiddler for the tm-new-tiddler I can't change the 
title.

When I use a hashmap as param, I think the whole thing could fail because 
of quoting. What if a user used a  in some input value?

Any ideas anyone?

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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
There is no way to do this in 5.1.4 without widgets, trust me I tried very 
hard.

When action-set-field widget comes in it will be easier.

Regards.

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[tw] Re: Link with Custom Title to Section Heading Inside Tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Substories is your way to go.
Sadly I have not enough experience to help you with it.

Regars.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Stephan

One of the changes in 5.1.5 is that the tm-new-tiddler message now lets you
specify both the title of a template tiddler and any number of additional
fields. So you can do things like this:

$action-sendmessage $message=tm-new-tiddler $template=$:/temp/newuser
title={{myTitleTiddler}}/

Best wishes

Jeremy.


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 There is no way to do this in 5.1.4 without widgets, trust me I tried very
 hard.

 When action-set-field widget comes in it will be easier.

 Regards.

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Re: [tw] Re: Tiddler History

2014-11-12 Thread Blake Blacksmith
Thanks for confirming there is currently no native support for versioning
individual tiddlers.

I look forward to testing your plugin!

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 2:35 AM, Danielo Rodríguez rdani...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi blake,

 I am working on a plugin to provide versions history to TW, but it is on a
 very early stage and currently is just manual.
 Regards

 El martes, 11 de noviembre de 2014 23:15:05 UTC+1, Blake Blacksmith
 escribió:

 Hi All,

 Does TW5 support tiddler text history? As in, if I have a tiddler with
 text that I edit one day is there some way to save the text prior to
 editing?

 I believe Evernote has a similar feature were note history is saved each
 time you make an edit and you can recall up to 100 or so edits.

 If there is not already a way to enable tiddler text history for a given
 tiddler then I will simply make a new fields with the data and text of my
 tiddlers prior to editing.

 -Blake

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[tw] [TW5] New icon for save changes

2014-11-12 Thread Jeremy Ruston
The addition of the new export button has made it clear that the
resemblance with the save changes icon causes confusion.

Following a suggestion from Mat, I'm exploring different options for the
save changes icon.

[image: Inline image 2]

The rationale for using the tick for save changes is that saving makes
your changes safe (the tick will be red if there are unsaved changes).

The export icon now looks like this:

[image: Inline image 3]

I've also updated several of the icons to a more consistent style, with
consistent line widths.

What do you think? Does the new icon work for you?

There's a preview at http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/

Best wishes

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Add icons to the title based on tags

2014-11-12 Thread rdanielo
I finally got a very pleasant solution. I will publish it at braintest.tiddlyspot.com. Does someone have a suggestion on how to distribute it? I think building a plugin is maybe too much, or maybe is perfect because will be easier to remove / deactivate. I'm also horrible with naming so any good name digestion is welcome. 
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[tw] Re: [TW5] New icon for save changes

2014-11-12 Thread Ton Gerner
Hi Jeremy,

*If* you want to change the save icon why reinventing the wheel?
AFAIK The 'floppy' icon is the accepted standard for save (at least in 
windows).

Cheers,

Ton



On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:24:02 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 The addition of the new export button has made it clear that the 
 resemblance with the save changes icon causes confusion.

 Following a suggestion from Mat, I'm exploring different options for the 
 save changes icon.

 [image: Inline image 2]

 The rationale for using the tick for save changes is that saving makes 
 your changes safe (the tick will be red if there are unsaved changes).

 The export icon now looks like this:

 [image: Inline image 3]

 I've also updated several of the icons to a more consistent style, with 
 consistent line widths.

 What do you think? Does the new icon work for you?

 There's a preview at http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.



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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Stephan Hradek


Am Mittwoch, 12. November 2014 17:32:16 UTC+1 schrieb Danielo Rodríguez:

 There is no way to do this in 5.1.4 without widgets, trust me I tried very 
 hard.

 Actually: I found a way!

$button set=$:/temp/newuser!!title setTo={{$:/temp/newuser!!title}}...

If anyone's interested, I can show the full stuff later. 

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Top Bars

2014-11-12 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Andrew

The built-in shadow $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/topleftbar lacks the logic to
selectively hide and show buttons; you can see an example of what's needed
in $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/pagecontrols.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:10 PM, andrew.j.harrison84 
andrew.j.harriso...@gmail.com wrote:

  I like the way tool bars can be modified from the ControlPanel
 appearance tab. I liked it so much that I set out to add the top left and
 top right toolbars to tabs also just like the edit, page, and view toolbar
 tabs.
  I seem to have gotten stuck. I started with TopLeftToolbar creating
 shadow tiddlers with everything just like the edit, page, and view. There
 are multiple shadow tiddlers for each. But checking or unchecking seems to
 have no effect. The tag only makes it show up in the top toolbar. My
 testing page is t5a.tiddlyspot.com. Any suggestions? Maybe it's my clock
 which doesn't want to play with the other nice buttons.


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[tw] Re: [TW5] New icon for save changes

2014-11-12 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Ton

*If* you want to change the save icon why reinventing the wheel?
 AFAIK The 'floppy' icon is the accepted standard for save (at least in
 windows).


The floppy disk icon is the top hit when you do a Google image search for
save icon.

But I think it is pretty Windows-centric, and it's not something you see
much on the web. I'm not a huge fan because it's an archaic visual metaphor
that is pretty meaningless for most users. Many people would struggle to
describe it in words - Click the icon that looks like a big blocky A with
a dot under it. Where as Click the icon of a tick in a circle is pretty
unambiguous.

Best wishes

Jeremy




 Cheers,

 Ton




 On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:24:02 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 The addition of the new export button has made it clear that the
 resemblance with the save changes icon causes confusion.

 Following a suggestion from Mat, I'm exploring different options for the
 save changes icon.

 [image: Inline image 2]

 The rationale for using the tick for save changes is that saving makes
 your changes safe (the tick will be red if there are unsaved changes).

 The export icon now looks like this:

 [image: Inline image 3]

 I've also updated several of the icons to a more consistent style, with
 consistent line widths.

 What do you think? Does the new icon work for you?

 There's a preview at http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.



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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Looks like a bug.

I think I got something similar, much more twisted and less cleaner. Does that 
change the tiddler tittle or creates a new one? A clone maybe?

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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Felix Küppers


 $button set=$:/temp/newuser!!title setTo={{$:/temp/newuser!!title}}...


This is just crazy! :) I never thought about that

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New icon for save changes

2014-11-12 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
I was going to say exactly that. Floppy is the standard in 99% of programs. I 
have to admit that it looks very old fashioned. Maybe we should look into other 
web-notebooks as one note, Evernote or even Google Drive. 

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Re: [tw] [TW5] several questions for migrating/using TW5

2014-11-12 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Tobias

I'm not sure that I fully understand your specific proposals, but I
certainly agree that the core should have more features to help people
split and aggregate tiddlers.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Tobias Beer beertob...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Jeremy,


 The purest expression of TiddlyWikis philosophy would be to break a
 tiddler with sections into separate tiddlers, and transclude the sections
 back together when you need to view them as a single unit.


 Perhaps this can be automated a little more, after all, and merged into a
 compromise by inventing something like section tiddlers which could get...

- automatic titles based on parent + the section title
- allow for section ordering using some list field (not sure about
section nesting though)

 As the chosen approach is slicing a section down to being a tiddler, that
 means that supporting capabilities are somewhat desireable that help a user
 to aggregate the now scattered contents, or display such now remote or
 hidden contents (data, fields) in a somewhat editable / templatable
 viewmode.

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Top Bars

2014-11-12 Thread andrew.j.harrison84
Thank you. And just want to add how awesome you are.




Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G TouchJeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com 
wrote:Hi Andrew

The built-in shadow $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/topleftbar lacks the logic to 
selectively hide and show buttons; you can see an example of what's needed in 
$:/core/ui/PageTemplate/pagecontrols.

Best wishes

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     I like the way tool bars can be modified from the ControlPanel appearance 
tab. I liked it so much that I set out to add the top left and top right 
toolbars to tabs also just like the edit, page, and view toolbar tabs.
     I seem to have gotten stuck. I started with TopLeftToolbar creating shadow 
tiddlers with everything just like the edit, page, and view. There are multiple 
shadow tiddlers for each. But checking or unchecking seems to have no effect. 
The tag only makes it show up in the top toolbar. My testing page is 
t5a.tiddlyspot.com. Any suggestions? Maybe it's my clock which doesn't want to 
play with the other nice buttons.


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Re: [tw] [TW5] Top Bars

2014-11-12 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Thanks Andrew, I'll be interested to see the results.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 6:26 PM, andrew.j.harrison84 
andrew.j.harriso...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you. And just want to add how awesome you are.




 Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G Touch

 Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Andrew

 The built-in shadow $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/topleftbar lacks the logic
 to selectively hide and show buttons; you can see an example of what's
 needed in $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/pagecontrols.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.


 On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:10 PM, andrew.j.harrison84 
 andrew.j.harriso...@gmail.com wrote:

  I like the way tool bars can be modified from the ControlPanel
 appearance tab. I liked it so much that I set out to add the top left and
 top right toolbars to tabs also just like the edit, page, and view toolbar
 tabs.
  I seem to have gotten stuck. I started with TopLeftToolbar creating
 shadow tiddlers with everything just like the edit, page, and view. There
 are multiple shadow tiddlers for each. But checking or unchecking seems to
 have no effect. The tag only makes it show up in the top toolbar. My
 testing page is t5a.tiddlyspot.com. Any suggestions? Maybe it's my clock
 which doesn't want to play with the other nice buttons.


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[tw] Re: [TW5] New icon for save changes

2014-11-12 Thread Alberto Molina
Hi, 

Seems weird prima face, but I think the tick in a circle for saving changes 
is consistent with the tick for tiddlers changes in edit mode and the tick for 
done tasks. 
Just my two cents. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New icon for save changes

2014-11-12 Thread Birthe C
Hi Jeremy
I like the tick in a circle. Tick for saving tiddler after editing and tick 
in circle for saving/download TiddlyWiki. Logic I think. Also I like pure 
and simple icons.


Birthe



Den onsdag den 12. november 2014 18.24.02 UTC+1 skrev Jeremy Ruston:

 The addition of the new export button has made it clear that the 
 resemblance with the save changes icon causes confusion.

 Following a suggestion from Mat, I'm exploring different options for the 
 save changes icon.

 [image: Inline image 2]

 The rationale for using the tick for save changes is that saving makes 
 your changes safe (the tick will be red if there are unsaved changes).

 The export icon now looks like this:

 [image: Inline image 3]

 I've also updated several of the icons to a more consistent style, with 
 consistent line widths.

 What do you think? Does the new icon work for you?

 There's a preview at http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/

 Best wishes

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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Stephan Hradek


Am Mittwoch, 12. November 2014 18:50:28 UTC+1 schrieb Stephan Hradek:



 Am Mittwoch, 12. November 2014 17:32:16 UTC+1 schrieb Danielo Rodríguez:

 There is no way to do this in 5.1.4 without widgets, trust me I tried 
 very hard.

 Actually: I found a way!

 $button set=$:/temp/newuser!!title setTo={{$:/temp/newuser!!title}}...


There's a quote too much. $button set=$:/temp/newuser!!title 
setTo={{$:/temp/newuser!!
title}}...

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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Stephan Hradek


Am Mittwoch, 12. November 2014 19:03:26 UTC+1 schrieb Danielo Rodríguez:

 Looks like a bug. 

 I think I got something similar, much more twisted and less cleaner. Does 
 that change the tiddler tittle or creates a new one? A clone maybe?


It clones the $:/temp/newuser tiddler. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
But with the same name, not with skeeve as title. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Stephan Hradek


Am Mittwoch, 12. November 2014 20:20:07 UTC+1 schrieb Danielo Rodríguez:

 But with the same name, not with skeeve as title. 


???

Just try it. Ready to be pasted to tiddlywiki.com:

|!Username |$edit-text tiddler=$:/temp/newuser placeholder=username tag
=input type=text/ |
|!First Name |$edit-text tiddler=$:/temp/newuser field=firstname 
placeholder=first name tag=input type=text/ |
|!Last Name |$edit-text tiddler=$:/temp/newuser field=lastname 
placeholder=last name tag=input type=text/ |
|!E-Mail |$edit-text tiddler=$:/temp/newuser field=email 
placeholder=e-mail 
address tag=input type=text/ |
|!sometags |$checkbox tiddler=$:/temp/newuser tag=Admin Admin
/$checkboxbr/$checkbox tiddler=$:/temp/newuser tag=cron cron
/$checkboxbr/$checkbox tiddler=$:/temp/newuser tag=www www/$checkbox 
|

$reveal type=nomatch text= state=$:/temp/newuser
  $button set=$:/temp/newuser!!title setTo={{$:/temp/newuser}}
$reveal type=match text={{$:/temp/newuser}} 
state={{$:/temp/newuser}}
  Modify
/$reveal
$reveal type=nomatch text={{$:/temp/newuser}} 
state={{$:/temp/newuser}}
  Create
/$reveal
  /$button
/$reveal

 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Stephan Hradek
Please note the label of the Modify/Create button ;)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Sylvain Naudin


Le mercredi 12 novembre 2014 18:50:28 UTC+1, Stephan Hradek a écrit :


 If anyone's interested, I can show the full stuff later. 


Hi, yes I'm interested :)

I think about a similar need to have a timesheet when I organized workshop. 
So I could have a form like this to register member, and list them on a 
tiddler entry (like journal maybe) when there are in the classroom.

Sylvain

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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Stephan Hradek


Am Mittwoch, 12. November 2014 20:38:04 UTC+1 schrieb Sylvain Naudin:



 Le mercredi 12 novembre 2014 18:50:28 UTC+1, Stephan Hradek a écrit :


 If anyone's interested, I can show the full stuff later. 


 Hi, yes I'm interested :)


I already posted it some minutes ago.

But here's an enhanced version:

\define theTiddler() $(the_tiddler)$!!title

|!Username |$edit-text tiddler=$:/temp/newuser placeholder=username tag
=input type=text/ |
|!First Name |$edit-text tiddler=$:/temp/newuser field=firstname 
placeholder=first name tag=input type=text/ |
|!Last Name |$edit-text tiddler=$:/temp/newuser field=lastname 
placeholder=last name tag=input type=text/ |
|!E-Mail |$edit-text tiddler=$:/temp/newuser field=email 
placeholder=e-mail 
address tag=input type=text/ |
|!sometags |$checkbox tiddler=$:/temp/newuser tag=Admin Admin
/$checkboxbr/$checkbox tiddler=$:/temp/newuser tag=cron cron
/$checkboxbr/$checkbox tiddler=$:/temp/newuser tag=www www/$checkbox 
|

$reveal type=nomatch text= state=$:/temp/newuser
  $reveal type=match text={{$:/temp/newuser}} state={{$:/temp/newuser}}
$button set=$:/temp/newuser!!title setTo={{$:/temp/newuser}}
  Modify
/$button
$set name=the_tiddler value={{$:/temp/newuser}}
$button setTo=$:/temp/newuser set=theTiddler
  Fetch
/$button
/$set
  /$reveal
  $reveal type=nomatch text={{$:/temp/newuser}} 
state={{$:/temp/newuser}}
$button set=$:/temp/newuser!!title setTo={{$:/temp/newuser}}
  Create
/$button
  /$reveal
/$reveal

 Let's hope it's not a bug!

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Re: [tw] [tw5] accessibility and keyboard issues/feature requests

2014-11-12 Thread Simon Eigeldinger

Hi jeremy,

the current changes are nice.
i have a hourly rebuilt html file from the current github repo over here:
http://domasofan.spdns.eu/tw5/tw5.html

You wrote:


* to be able to enter multiple tags at once. maybe separated with a comma.
that might make keyboard users very happy i guess. *smile*



I'm increasingly thinking that the best edit interface for intensive
keyboard users is to present the tiddler and fields together in a single
textarea, formatted like a .tid file:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core%2Facknowledgements.tid

One great advantage is that then it becomes possible to copy and paste
multiple fields at once, as well as more flexible manipulation of tags


Hm. I guess we have to discuss that with the other keyboard users/ 
normal users as well.
maybe soemthing like a show source code button or something which you 
can then edit and click the button again to hide the source code and 
things would be like in the current interface.



* importer: to be able to filter the importable stuff in maybe the
following categories: all, languages, plugins, themes, content etc. so that
might make it easier to deal with the many tiddlers which can be imported.
maybe in the style of the control panel with those buttons where you can
select which section you might to view or a dropdown list might be also
interesting. what ever fits best into the design.


* a select/deselect all checkbox in the table of the importer to quickly

deselect or select all items currently listed in the table. the table
header currently contains the word select. i would replace it with a
checkbox which toggles all checkboxes.
i saw that aproach on many web apps/webmail clients.



Both of these are enhancements I'd hoping to make to the import/upgrade
wizard.


Sounds great.
I guess tw will get easier and better to use for blind and visually 
impaired people as well.


something you might never have thought? *smile*

greetings,
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Preview of new export button

2014-11-12 Thread Alex Hough
Jeremy,

What I am trying to say is that under node.js the saving is not the same as
downloading. The existing download seems to belong its the other
new download buttons and a save button belongs to a different class - save
to node.


Alex

On Tuesday, 11 November 2014, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Alex

 On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@gmail.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','r.a.ho...@gmail.com'); wrote:

 I think there's some confusion with the download button.


 The way that both the save and export buttons have icons that look
 like boxes containing an arrow is problematic.

 It's hard to avoid an icon along these lines for export because it's
 pretty standard. But maybe we could explore alternatives for the save
 icon. Originally, the save icon was designed to look like a download
 icon because, of course, some of the time that's what it does.


 Maybe *it* should have the pop up with the options and the node version
 have a different mechanism to show that saving has occurred


 I'm not sure what you mean? If the save icon bought up a dropdown then
 presumably that would mean it would take two clicks to save, which doesn't
 seem desirable.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy



 Alex

 On 11 November 2014 10:56, PMario pmari...@gmail.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pmari...@gmail.com'); wrote:

 On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:50:01 AM UTC+1, Mat wrote:

 However, another potential issue; Opening the csv in LibreOffice Calc
 warns that the maximum number of characters per cell is exceeded for csv.
 Looking at the result I can't really tell, it appears ok. I have not
 investigated closer, maybe it's some setting or possibly a LibreOffice
 limitation. But can I ask which are the names of some of the largest
 tiddlers that should appear there and I'll try to see of they appear ok or
 not.


 It seems to be 64kByte see: http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/8980
 So there shouldn't be  a problem, except for the /all template tiddlers.

 -m

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New icon for save changes

2014-11-12 Thread Sylvain Naudin
Hi,

I'm not fan of new ControlPanel icons :/ The previous version looks more 
like mechanism. The new one look like sun (if we see the icon bigger, it's 
better, but prefer the older).

For save, indeed we could use floppy, but yes it's from the last century, 
and TW5 is for the next 25 years ;)

It's me or some circle icons are not really circle ? Like search or new 
save ? It seems a little crop.

Sylvain


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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Stephan Hradek
The previous version could overwrite tiddlers which were not created with 
the form.

If you stick to tiddler!!title == tiddler!!text, mwaning: You won't 
overwrite the content of the tiddlers created with the form, this version 
will prevent you from overwriting tiddlers not created with the form, by 
simply not offering the Create button when a tiddler already exists

\define theTiddler() $(the_tiddler)$!!title

|!Username |$edit-text tiddler=$:/temp/newuser placeholder=username tag
=input type=text/ |
|!First Name |$edit-text tiddler=$:/temp/newuser field=firstname 
placeholder=first name tag=input type=text/ |
|!Last Name |$edit-text tiddler=$:/temp/newuser field=lastname 
placeholder=last name tag=input type=text/ |
|!E-Mail |$edit-text tiddler=$:/temp/newuser field=email 
placeholder=e-mail 
address tag=input type=text/ |
|!sometags |$checkbox tiddler=$:/temp/newuser tag=Admin Admin
/$checkboxbr/$checkbox tiddler=$:/temp/newuser tag=cron cron
/$checkboxbr/$checkbox tiddler=$:/temp/newuser tag=www www/$checkbox 
|

$reveal type=nomatch text= state=$:/temp/newuser
  $reveal type=match text={{$:/temp/newuser}} state={{$:/temp/newuser}}
$button set=$:/temp/newuser!!title setTo={{$:/temp/newuser}}
  Modify
/$button
$set name=the_tiddler value={{$:/temp/newuser}}
$button setTo=$:/temp/newuser set=theTiddler
  Fetch
/$button
/$set
  /$reveal
  $reveal type=match text= state={{$:/temp/newuser}}
$button set=$:/temp/newuser!!title setTo={{$:/temp/newuser}}
  Create
/$button
  /$reveal
/$reveal

Just try it on tiddlywiki.com, entering HelloThere as Username. Note that 
a Create Button will appear after the first character and vanish when the 
name is complete.

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[tw] Re: tw5 question about thumbnails and links to external image files

2014-11-12 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
This is a more elaborate version of the macro. It assumes you have a 
directory with your images (you can change the default) and a subdirectory 
below that with the the thumbs called thumbs. You click a button to show 
either the large or full version. This may be littering your tiddler space 
with state tiddlers. 

One of the reasons to generate actual thumbs rather than just to scale them 
is that when you scale an image the browser has to load the entire 
mega-pixel thing into memory. 

I'm sure others can tweak or replace this to make something better:

\define imageit(image:image,path:TW-Images/)
$macrocall $name=imageaid image=$path$$image$ 
thumb=$path$thumbs/$image$ state=$:/ImageState/$image$ /
\end
\define imageaid(image:image.jpg ,thumb:pathToThumb, 
state:ImageRevealState)
$button set=$state$ setTo=hideFull image/$button
$button set=$state$ setTo=showSmall Image/$buttonp/
$reveal type=match state=$state$ text=show
img src=$thumb$ /
/$reveal
$reveal type=match state=$state$ text=hide
img src=$image$ / 
/$reveal
\end

Example:

imageit chimps_77646868_3patrol.jpg 


On Monday, November 10, 2014 10:57:50 AM UTC-8, steve wrote:

 Hi

 I am using TW5 to write documentation for a application and I would like 
 to embed screenshots in the text
 So far I am able to have a clickable link to the image (see below)

 [ext[App Screenshot|./externalFiles/image.tiff]]

 What I would really like to do is:
 * have the image displayed in the tiddler without having to click on a 
 link (good);
 * have a thumbnail of the image displayed; click on thumbnail to see the 
 full resolution image (better)
 * generate the thumbnail on the fly without having to a separate 
 thumbnail image; click on the thumbnail to see the full resolution image 
 (best)

 Steve Wharton


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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello Stephan,

Please note that you first posted:

$button set=$:/temp/newuser!!title setTo={{$:/temp/newuser!!title}}


Which will set the tittle vale of the temp tiddler to the title field of 
the temp tiddler, which should be exactly the same. In the new versions you 
have posted there is a different approach and you are using the TEXT field, 
not the tittle. That's why it looks so weird to me.

Your new version is very elegant and useful, but It's not new. In fact, I 
reminds me to some of your own customizations.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Stephan Hradek


Am Mittwoch, 12. November 2014 21:15:02 UTC+1 schrieb Danielo Rodríguez:

 Hello Stephan,

 Please note that you first posted:

 $button set=$:/temp/newuser!!title setTo={{$:/temp/newuser!!title}}

 Thanks for that! Didn't really notice. I already switched off the computer 
where I had the working version and just typed it from memory, not testing 
it.
 

 Your new version is very elegant and useful, but It's not new.

 
It's not new? Why didn't anyone tell me that I can use that?  

In fact, I reminds me to some of your own customizations.


Hmm… Am I getting old? (I do hope so) Already? (maybe)… I can't remember I 
did something similar before. But then: I think I already did some crazy 
stuff with TW5 before :D

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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Sylvain Naudin
It's pretty awesome ! I just test and it's work like a charm, even on 
prerelease too.

Maybe for Danielo it's not new, but for me yes :)

Thanks for sharing this tips.
Sylvain

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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Danielo Rodríguez



 Thanks for that! Didn't really notice. I already switched off the 
 computer where I had the working version and just typed it from memory, not 
 testing it.
  

That explains why you blow my mind.
 

  
 It's not new? Why didn't anyone tell me that I can use that?  

 Maybe is my memory which is going bad and I'm turning new things into 
memories?
 


 Hmm… Am I getting old? (I do hope so) Already? (maybe)… I can't remember I 
 did something similar before. But then: I think I already did some crazy 
 stuff with TW5 before :D


I have to agree with the last part. I'm still guessing HOW the reveal 
button detects when the referenced tiddler have been created with your form 
and when it is an already existing non-related tiddler.  The fetch button 
is also  blowing my mind:

$set name=the_tiddler value={{$:/temp/newuser}}
 $button setTo=$:/temp/newuser set=theTiddler
   Fetch
 /$button
 /$set


It sets the title of the tiddler (good name since is some kind of limbo 
tiddler) to the value that is contained on the text field of the temp 
tiddler. But it is not actually setting the title because the tiddler 
already exist, and it is setting it to the same title, but this makes the 
tiddler get into the form instead of creating a new tiddler with empty 
fields o_0 I can't understand it! It's like setting an unexisting tiddler's 
title to the title of an existing tiddler that turns that unexisting 
tiddler in the already existing one instead of turning the already existing 
tiddler into the unexisting tiddler aaahahahahahahah

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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Sylvain Naudin
Well I don't understand Fetch button use. What is his purpose ?

Sylvain

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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Stephan Hradek


Am Mittwoch, 12. November 2014 21:41:21 UTC+1 schrieb Sylvain Naudin:

 Well I don't understand Fetch button use. What is his purpose ?


For this use case imagine I've already created my account Skeeve using 
the form.

If I come back later, typing Skeeve into the Username, I will be able to 
set new values, but the current values won't appear in the form unless I 
press Fetch. So this is a way to retrieve the values which are already 
set in my Skeeve-tiddler.

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[tw] Re: tw5 question about thumbnails and links to external image files

2014-11-12 Thread Sylvain Naudin
Hi Mark, I like your macro example :)

I don't know if I'll use it, but just curious and test it with success.

Sylvain

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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
But that does not explains how it works, if it is even possible to explain .

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New icon for save changes

2014-11-12 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
I have to say that don't like the new configuration button neither ,I prefer 
the old gear icon. The new looks like a sun

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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Sylvain Naudin


Le mercredi 12 novembre 2014 21:54:11 UTC+1, Stephan Hradek a écrit :

 For this use case imagine I've already created my account Skeeve using 
 the form.

 If I come back later, typing Skeeve into the Username, I will be able to 
 set new values, but the current values won't appear in the form unless I 
 press Fetch. So this is a way to retrieve the values which are already 
 set in my Skeeve-tiddler.


Hum... you explanation sounds correct for me, but I can't see in action :/

Maybe I miss something on my tiddler. Should I add a specific tag system ?

Can you add a clear form button ? I don't know how I could do.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Set img path variable ?

2014-11-12 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 4:06:54 PM UTC+1, Sylvain Naudin wrote:

 (absolute path like file:\\Users\Mario\Pictures\2010-10\ doesn't work for 
 me on Windows and Firefox).


There's a second post with a fix. 
-m

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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Stephan Hradek


Am Mittwoch, 12. November 2014 22:16:22 UTC+1 schrieb Sylvain Naudin:

 Maybe I miss something on my tiddler. Should I add a specific tag system ?


Add some information into the fields.
Click create.

Change some of the information, but not the Username.

Click Fetch and the values you just changed should revert to the values 
you saved before, when creating the user-tiddler.
 

 Can you add a clear form button ? I don't know how I could do.


$button message=tm-delete-tiddler param=$:/temp/newuserClear/$button

But this would prompt for confirmation. Don't know how to avoid that. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Stephan Hradek


Am Mittwoch, 12. November 2014 22:11:38 UTC+1 schrieb Danielo Rodríguez:

 But that does not explains how it works, if it is even possible to explain 
 .


The fetch button sets the title of the Skeeve tiddler to 
$:/temp/newuser, thus overwriting all the fields of the current 
$:/temp/newuser. This triggers a refresh of the form which will then show 
the values which were just written to the temp tiddler. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New icon for save changes

2014-11-12 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:48:45 PM UTC+1, Ton Gerner wrote:

 *If* you want to change the save icon why reinventing the wheel?
 AFAIK The 'floppy' icon is the accepted standard for save (at least in 
 windows).


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[tw] Re: [TW5] New icon for save changes

2014-11-12 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 8:56:20 PM UTC+1, Sylvain Naudin wrote:

 I'm not fan of new ControlPanel icons :/ The previous version looks more 
 like mechanism. The new one look like sun (if we see the icon bigger, it's 
 better, but prefer the older).


+1

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New icon for save changes

2014-11-12 Thread PMario
It seems the new tiddler toolbar icons are much bigger than the old ones. 
I'd like to have a simple configuration in the control panel to make them 
smaller. It may be nice for touch screens but imo for a monitor it's too 
big.

-mario

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New icon for save changes

2014-11-12 Thread Alberto Molina
Le mercredi 12 novembre 2014 22:14:09 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez a écrit :

 I have to say that don't like the new configuration button neither ,I 
 prefer the old gear icon. The new looks like a sun


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Set img path variable ?

2014-11-12 Thread Sylvain Naudin


Le mercredi 12 novembre 2014 22:19:25 UTC+1, PMario a écrit :

 On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 4:06:54 PM UTC+1, Sylvain Naudin wrote:

 (absolute path like file:\\Users\Mario\Pictures\2010-10\ doesn't work 
 for me on Windows and Firefox).


 There's a second post with a fix. 
 -m


Ah ok ! So it's fine :) 
Many thanks

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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Sylvain Naudin


Le mercredi 12 novembre 2014 22:25:24 UTC+1, Stephan Hradek a écrit :

 Add some information into the fields.
 Click create.

 Change some of the information, but not the Username.

 Click Fetch and the values you just changed should revert to the values 
 you saved before, when creating the user-tiddler.


No sorry, it doesn't work for me. I don't see anything change in values of 
my tiddlers.


 

  Can you add a clear form button ? I don't know how I could do.

 $button message=tm-delete-tiddler 
 param=$:/temp/newuserClear/$button

 But this would prompt for confirmation. Don't know how to avoid that. 


Thanks :) 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New icon for save changes

2014-11-12 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Sylvain

I'm not fan of new ControlPanel icons :/ The previous version looks more
 like mechanism. The new one look like sun (if we see the icon bigger, it's
 better, but prefer the older).


Agreed, I've reworked it a little to this:

[image: Inline image 2]

Here's the previous one for comparison

[image: Inline image 3]

I've uploaded a new prerelease to http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease

  It's me or some circle icons are not really circle ? Like search or new
save ? It seems a little crop.

They do look bad - what browser and OS are you using?

Best wishes

Jeremy


 Sylvain


 http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#ImageGallery%20Example


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[tw] Re: [TW5] New icon for save changes

2014-11-12 Thread Sylvain Naudin


Le mercredi 12 novembre 2014 23:46:46 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston a écrit :

 Hi Sylvain

 I'm not fan of new ControlPanel icons :/ The previous version looks more 
 like mechanism. The new one look like sun (if we see the icon bigger, it's 
 better, but prefer the older).


 Agreed, I've reworked it a little to this:

 [image: Inline image 2]



Well it's better :) I like it.
Thanks.


 

 They do look bad - what browser and OS are you using?


Firefox 33.1 on OSx 10.6.8. I think I've seen similar issues on my Fedora 
and Firefox.

With Google Chrome it's OK.
 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New icon for save changes

2014-11-12 Thread Alberto Molina


 Agreed, I've reworked it a little to this:

 [image: Inline image 2]



 Well it's better :) I like it.
 Thanks. 


+1 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] What are the barebones tiddlers

2014-11-12 Thread Richard Smith
Hi Andrew, 

Did you start with the 'empty' TW5 file, as downloadable from the 
'GettingStarted' tiddler? (http://tiddlywiki.com/#:GettingStarted)
I just downloaded a copy and it shows as being 1.2MB in size whereas the 
'full' version with the docs etc. is about 3MB.

Any tiddlers that appear to be part of the empty install are actually part 
of the core and I don't believe it's possible to delete them. If you choose 
to edit them, delete all the text and tag each with 'deleted', you're 
actually creating EXTRA tiddlers which sit over the top of, obscuring, the 
core tiddlers which are still there. This will naturally will make your 
file bigger, not smaller :)

Regards,
Richard

On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 9:56:54 AM UTC+11, infernoape wrote:


 Oops. It went before I put the subject line in.



 Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G Touch

 andrew.j.harrison84 andrew.j@gmail.com javascript: wrote:
 I'm going to be transporting my stand alone tiddlywiki and I want to know 
 what I can remove to leave a barebones file. Since I still want to be able 
 to use the upgrade mechanism I have been removing text from tiddlers and 
 tagging them as deleted so they don't come back in when I upgrade but I am 
 worried I might break something. Is there a list of barebones tiddlers? I 
 wish I could see a graphical relationship of variables, classes, messages, 
 tags, etc.




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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Birthe C
Hi Stephan

Thank you so much for this and for your explanation. I had hoped for 
something like this. It works well for me.


Birthe


Den onsdag den 12. november 2014 22.27.04 UTC+1 skrev Stephan Hradek:



 Am Mittwoch, 12. November 2014 22:11:38 UTC+1 schrieb Danielo Rodríguez:

 But that does not explains how it works, if it is even possible to 
 explain .


 The fetch button sets the title of the Skeeve tiddler to 
 $:/temp/newuser, thus overwriting all the fields of the current 
 $:/temp/newuser. This triggers a refresh of the form which will then show 
 the values which were just written to the temp tiddler. 


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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Stephan Hradek



https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aHggkxiWjAU/VGRGty1zwnI/AP0/mtlE18pbkF8/s1600/Bild%2B1.png
Am Mittwoch, 12. November 2014 23:46:39 UTC+1 schrieb Sylvain Naudin:


 No sorry, it doesn't work for me. I don't see anything change in values of 
 my tiddlers.


No! Not the tiddlers change when you Fetch, the FORM content changes.


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aHggkxiWjAU/VGRGty1zwnI/AP0/mtlE18pbkF8/s1600/Bild%2B1.png

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New icon for save changes

2014-11-12 Thread Danielo Rodríguez



 Agreed, I've reworked it a little to this:

 [image: Inline image 2]

 Here's the previous one for comparison

 [image: Inline image 3]

 What's wrong with the old one?

 

 I've uploaded a new prerelease to http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease

 On my ipad, ios 7 crhome browser the color picker does not work.
 

   It's me or some circle icons are not really circle ? Like search or new 
 save ? It seems a little crop.

 They do look bad - what browser and OS are you using?

 Same for me, ipad ios7 chrome 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Sylvain Naudin


Le jeudi 13 novembre 2014 06:52:00 UTC+1, Stephan Hradek a écrit :


 No sorry, it doesn't work for me. I don't see anything change in values 
 of my tiddlers.


 No! Not the tiddlers change when you Fetch, the FORM content changes.


So it still doesn't work for me :( Last I speak about tiddler because 
nothing change on form to retrieve content.. I don't see where I'm wrong, 
because it work for (thanks for print screen) you and Birthe.
Can you share a tw5.html somewhere please ?

Thanks and sorry again.
Sylvain

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[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler

2014-11-12 Thread Stephan Hradek
I don't have an up-to-date tiddlyspot. All are outdated beta versions a.t.m.

Can you share your non-working experiment? Are you on the latest TW5 
version?

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