[tw] Re: Prerelease of 5.1.8

2015-01-12 Thread Astrid Elocson
Awesome, Jeremy. Many thanks.

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyDesktop v0.0.4

2015-01-12 Thread Corey S
I would like to see Tiddly Desktop evolve into a standalone program running 
in many environments. Windows/RT, Linux/Android, Mac/iOS, Blackberry too, 
if you can swing it.

My use case:
I use my Tiddlywiki mostly for a recipe book nowadays, but I have a 
separate wiki that I use for 3D model design and making notes on game 
ideas. I have collected images of objects I want to derive for my designs. 
My wikis are in the root of my hard drive so I can use relative addressing 
to add images into a tiddler and then add notes to the tiddler.

While AndTidWiki is useful for Android, it only really works with TWC 
(don't know how I managed to get TW5 working) and only with a wiki in the 
App's directory. I would like to be able to have a wiki on my phone 
in root. I would also like the option to use a Windows Phone/Tablet or 
Blackberry. Maybe snipping/clipping and remote backup function too? May not 
sound like much, but it looks like a lot of back-end work to this layman.

On Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 5:02:48 PM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 This release includes a major reworking of the internals of TiddlyDesktop. 
 It's really a bit early for general release, but we need feedback to 
 improve it. Please use it with great caution, and consider reverting to 
 v0.0.3 if you run into any problems.

 Download it here:

 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyDesktop/releases/tag/v0.0.4

 Please report any problems or suggestions here or via GitHub.

 ! New Features

 * Warning message when closing windows with unsaved changes (TWC and TW 
 5.1.8 and above only)
 * Help window
 * Toolbar for TiddlyWiki windows
 * Reveal original file in Finder/Explorer
 * Automatic backups

 Note that there is currently no way to hide the toolbar for TiddlyWiki 
 windows. This will be remedied soon!

 ! New Architecture

 TiddlyDesktop itself is now an instance of the Node.js edition of 
 TiddlyWiki. TiddlyWiki HTML files are run within embedded, sandboxed 
 iframes with the backstage TiddlyWiki providing services such as saving 
 to the file system.

 The advantage of this approach is that the user interface and 
 functionality of the desktop application can now be customised and extended 
 with exactly the same techniques that are used in regular TiddlyWiki.

 !! Coming Soon

 The functionality of this release barely matches that of the previous 
 v0.0.3 version, but it lays the groundwork for a number of other features 
 such as

 * configurable toolbars
 * hyperbookmarklets
 * page zoom
 * creating new wikis from standard editions and custom templates
 * dragging `_canonical_uri` links from the file system
 * multiple languages
 * one-click copying of text to the clipboard from within TiddlyWiki
 * global keyboard shortcut for clipping content
 etc.

 In doing this work on TiddlyDesktop over the last three weeks I've found 
 the answer to the question of its purpose: it is to provide a hosting 
 environment for TiddlyWiki documents that is as fertile to customisation, 
 extension and sharing as TiddlyWiki itself. Given the funding, I'd love for 
 this to preface the development of a smartphone/tablet app with similar 
 functionality. Is that something people would be interested in?

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.



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Re: [tw] Re: javascript macro / macrocall problem

2015-01-12 Thread 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki

I don't think there's a lot of risk of this group going overboard in making 
the program user friendly but I do think there are user interface areas 
that could tolerate improvement with diluting TW's strong points. It seems 
to me that one of the noteworthy ones, based on the number of efforts I've 
seen at improving it, is the editor. There have been at least a half dozen 
modifications including Eric's enhancements of TWC, Stefan bookmarklets and 
Danielo's keyboardsnippets. And others that are more aggressive. There are 
times when it seems that everyone with the skill has tried to improve that 
aspect of the program. Other than the preview pane, the editor is little 
more than a textarea box. If we could get it to look as good as the editor 
we use when posting messages to this group, I would be ecstatic. And it 
would make life a lot easier on the new users without detracting from 
Tiddlywiki's power.

Tiddlywiki is also, by a fair margin, the most sophisticated program I've 
run into in years (and I'll wager my number of years in the computer field 
rival anyone else's) with essentially no semblance of a help system. For 
just a few hundred bytes, we could offer folks an intermediate level of the 
program that includes key help files with negligible impact of the program. 
Something between the bare-bones empty and the full web-site would be 
helpful.

Other strengths:

 1. It's actively developed and supported and the primary developer is 
 accessible. :)
 2. It has a great community that is both enthusiastic and open to 
 newcomers.


I strongly agree with these two points. Without those two, I wouldn't be 
here. 

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[tw] Re: Tip for serving TW5 on node to local network

2015-01-12 Thread Tobias Beer
Sorry for misspelling your name.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] YoutubePlugin (tentative)

2015-01-12 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Rich,
 

 Here's the question, Can multiple video's appear in a single Tiddler using 
 your YouTube stuff?


Via transclusion.
 

 Since you can start a video and stop a video at specific points you can 
 create samples.


I want to be able to autoplay, at least.
Start, stop only works once, not as looping.

Looping is currently possible for entire videos only
and the video needs to be listed in a playlist...

https://www.youtube.com/v/GRonxog5mbw?autoplay=1loop=1playlist=GRonxog5mbw

There's also this site, but it doesn't provide a way to embed things,
at which point their server may possibly go down thanks to the number of 
people using it...

http://loopthetube.com#7_ZhCaz2Cicstart=39end=47

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] [TWC] Fet script question

2015-01-12 Thread sklpns
Hello everyone

I'm using this fet 

forEachTiddler
 where
 'tiddler.tags.contains(expense)  tiddler.data(month) == Dec'
 script
 'function writeExpenseRow(index, tiddler, context) { var result = ; if 
(index == 0) {context.sum = 0; result = 
|!Description|!Amount|!Sum|!Receipt|\n;} 
context.sum=context.sum+tiddler.data(amount); result += | + 
tiddler.data(descr) + | + tiddler.data(amount) + | + context.sum + 
|[[+tiddler.title+]]|\n; return result;}'
 write
 'writeExpenseRow(index, tiddler, context)'


to produce a table with expenses and sum - see
http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#[[December%20Expenses%20%28with%20sum%29]] 


I'm trying to modify the script so it also presents an income column and 
it's sum as well as a final column with totals
-something like Date|Expense|Expense Sum|Income|Income Sum|Total, but it's 
way above my skills,
could someone please help?

thanks in advance
sklpns



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[tw] Hic trying to upgrade to 5.1.7

2015-01-12 Thread DaComboMan
When i drag/drop my password protected file over to TW webpage to upgrade 
to 5.1.7, i am asked for password and do so.
Then i upgrade (import) latest codes.
When i click to save changes, the browser (Firefox) download feature is 
activated to save the file.
This isn't normal.

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[tw] Re: Tip for serving TW5 on node to local network

2015-01-12 Thread Matthew DeAbreu
No problem, glad I could help. As a note about security, if you have the server 
listening to 0.0.0.0 on port 8080 and in your router configuration have 
forwarded that port the server is open to all traffic on both the local and 
external network. 

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] YoutubePlugin (tentative)

2015-01-12 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Rich,
 

 Here's the question, Can multiple video's appear in a single Tiddler using 
 your YouTube stuff?
 I tried but couldn't figure it out and will try some more today as it was 
 fun to use and create.


Just for the fun of it...

http://youtube.tiddlyspot.com/#EndlessLoopingWeirdness

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Prerelease of 5.1.8

2015-01-12 Thread Tobias Beer
railroads = awesome usefulness

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] BottomTabs plugin (v. 0.1)

2015-01-12 Thread Alberto Molina
Hi,

Le samedi 10 janvier 2015 19:21:31 UTC+1, cmari a écrit :

 Hi Alberto,
 I already liked tw-scholars, so I'm trying hard to keep up with all of 
 your improvements!  One thing I noticed is that the author list (in 
 $:/plugins/.../lists/publications) doesn't seem to be sorting properly.  
 I tried creating new authors and publications in your dropbox version to 
 test things in case there was some problem with my fields.  Sorting by 
 title and date works fine, but sorting by author is not alphabetical.  
 Also, clicking the reverse checkbox didn't change anything at all.  I wish 
 I could provide actual help rather than just a report, but I'm very 
 confused about where authors are defined.
 Thanks so much for what you've created - I use it daily.
 cmari


Fixed and improved!

Regards,

Alberto 

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[tw] Re: Tip for serving TW5 on node to local network

2015-01-12 Thread Tobias Beer
Thanks, Mathew,

Makes sense.
Surely a good idea for trusted networks.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] The POSTER is up and ready for you to print out!

2015-01-12 Thread PMario
Hi Mat,
Well done.  Is there a chance, that we have the diamond one as an SVG too?

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/EQzQC4-HRd0/sskiWgQi7jEJ

-m

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for the-insensitive links?

2015-01-12 Thread Astrid Elocson
Further to my previous comment, I've just discovered that `[backlinks[]]` 
and `[all[orphans]]` don't take account of most automated links.

For instance, if I have a tiddler whose text is

  my-macro [[Target]]

then the Target tiddler has an empty References list and shows up on the 
Orphans tab. And if the Target tiddler doesn't exist, it doesn't show up on 
the Missing tab.

It's much the same situation if I have a tiddler whose text is

  $list filter=[title[Target]]
  $linkclick here/$link
  /$list

As a result of this, the tiddlywiki.com site shows almost half of its 
tiddlers as orphans, even though most of them aren't.

Interestingly, things *do* work correctly if I have a tiddler whose text is

  $link to=Targetclick here/$link

Apologies if this has been discussed before, but it's a difficult thing to 
search the group for.

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[tw] [TW5] The POSTER is up and ready for you to print out!

2015-01-12 Thread Mat
Fellow tiddlywikians, it is with *great* pride I announce that we have our 
first TiddlyWiki poster! 

Jeremy expressed his liking and he and Duarte did the finishing job so that 
we now have [drumroll]

http://tiddlywiki.com/poster

Thanks to the - not only astonishing art work of Duarte - but also his 
generous extra work (for lack of a better term), there are *multiple* 
versions, including a pdf-version 
http://tiddlywiki.com/poster/images/TiddlyWiki_TiddlerPoster_en.pdf for 
direct printout on a common A4 / letter size paper. Easy as pie!!!

Where is the best place to put it up? Can you think of somewhere? Imagine 
if there were a few people around you who also enjoyed TiddlyWiki that you 
could tiddlefiddle with :-)

Who here will be the *first* to put one up?


:-)

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] YoutubePlugin (tentative)

2015-01-12 Thread Alex Hough
Tobias,

It's an interesting development  how  many other tool are there for
annotating YouTube videos like this?

here's one : http://www.videonot.es/

but I can see new users adopting TW because of vid annotation,  a special
edition TW Vid Notes combined with TW Scholar, and we have a powerful
collection of tools


best wishes

Alex

On 12 January 2015 at 00:02, RichShumaker richshuma...@gmail.com wrote:

 First

 The feature is used quite a bit in Tank for handling images and other
 content that can be dragged and dropped into a wiki. The actual binary
 content is saved in S3 and a _canonical_uri tiddler created to point to it.
 I mostly did it to save on disk space, but it also means that bags that
 appear to contain binary tiddlers are not slowed down by the binary
 tiddlers.

 That is awesome Chris and I need to get my TiddlyWeb working now as that
 is the single feature I have wanted the most.  A way to save data locally
 and just create a link to it.
 Second
 THANK YOU TOBIAS

 I have been hacking up the YouTube plug in and WOW.
 I know it will get better, I am just amazed at how good it is already.
 I agree with Astrid as well that this is a great lesson on how to build
 TW5 Stuff.

 So one question came up while I was hacking things up.
 I created a 6 times winning video
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubtH8rsJRC0, because I could.
 Here's the question, Can multiple video's appear in a single Tiddler using
 your YouTube stuff?
 I tried but couldn't figure it out and will try some more today as it was
 fun to use and create.

 This was not intended to be a 'thing' but I could do it so I did.
 The end concept was to create a YouTube Sampler, again because I could and
 no other real reason.

 Since you can start a video and stop a video at specific points you can
 create samples.
 I thought of this as I saw a Ted Talk where they took Captain Kirk's
 dialogue and cut it up and used it as samples to rebuild phrases and
 things, pretty cool stuff.

 Thanks again Tobias and Jed and Astrid and everyone in the community.

 Rich Shumaker

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for the-insensitive links?

2015-01-12 Thread Astrid Elocson
Hi Tobias,

Your alink macro would be really handy for use in the TiddlyWiki 
documentation. It would significantly reduce the file size, because we have 
lots of links of the form `[[…|…]]` (and we will be acquiring more over 
time).

The main drawback is that it's not understood by important filters such as 
`[backlinks[]]` and `[all[orphans]]`, which means that the sidebar Orphans 
tab can show false positives and the info References tab can incorrectly 
show nothing.

A comment about the implementation: The regexp doesn't check for a trailing 
pipe sign, so `a: tab` will match `|table`. The fact that your example 
shows `|alias|aliases` suggests this isn't what you intended. It would be 
problematic if one tiddler had an alias of `|tab` and another had an alias 
of `|table` – it wouldn't be clear which one `a: tab` (or indeed `a: 
ta`) would link to.

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[tw] Re: Vis.js Library

2015-01-12 Thread Felix Küppers
Hi Mat

Super Felix!!! Particularly good with TW mentioned in a context where I 
 assume many are developers or advanced users.

 
Yes, I also think that vis users are potential candidates for tw :) In the 
end, its all about structuring and relating data/knowledge.

-Felix

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[tw] Vis.js Library

2015-01-12 Thread Felix Küppers
Hi Everybody,

The vis.js developers just linked TiddlyWiki and the TiddlyMap plugin in 
their showcase section.

http://visjs.org/showcase/index.html

Tiddlywiki is also referred to in their blog:

http://visjs.org/blog.html#A%20look%20back%20on%20vis.js

It's nice to see that since both products (TiddlyWiki and Vis.js) go great 
hand in hand (Knowledge and Visualization).

-Felix

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Re: [tw] Re: Prerelease of 5.1.8

2015-01-12 Thread Alex Hough
Astrid,

love the railroad stuff, thank you

Alex

On 12 January 2015 at 08:46, Astrid Elocson aeloc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Awesome, Jeremy. Many thanks.

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[tw] Re: Vis.js Library

2015-01-12 Thread Mat
Super Felix!!! Particularly good with TW mentioned in a context where I 
assume many are developers or advanced users.

:-)

On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 12:35:23 PM UTC+1, Felix Küppers wrote:

 Hi Everybody,

 The vis.js developers just linked TiddlyWiki and the TiddlyMap plugin in 
 their showcase section.

 http://visjs.org/showcase/index.html

 Tiddlywiki is also referred to in their blog:

 http://visjs.org/blog.html#A%20look%20back%20on%20vis.js

 It's nice to see that since both products (TiddlyWiki and Vis.js) go great 
 hand in hand (Knowledge and Visualization).

 -Felix


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Re: [tw] Re: javascript macro / macrocall problem

2015-01-12 Thread Tobias Beer
Other than loads of more ui,
this may be very practical...

http://tbgtd.tiddlyspot.com

Edit a tiddler and find a button in the toolbar that says *info on 
formatting*.

I think something like that triggered as a slider from the Editor, not 
unlike the preview pane,
will tremendously help putting concise information at a user's hand.

Best wishes, Tobias. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for the-insensitive links?

2015-01-12 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Astrid,
 

 The regexp doesn't check for a trailing pipe sign, so `a: tab` will 
 match `|table`.


That's correct. Fixed.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Hic trying to upgrade to 5.1.7

2015-01-12 Thread Jed Carty
That is what has always happened for me. It isn't an in-place upgrade, it 
gives you an upgraded version of the input file instead of replacing the 
input file. That is unless you overwrite the original with the new download.

That or it has been broken for me every time I have used it.

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[tw] Re: Tip for serving TW5 on node to local network

2015-01-12 Thread Tobias Beer
Added the lot here...

http://dev5.tiddlyspot.com/#expose%20node%20server%20to%20local%20network

Best wishes, Tobias. 

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[tw] Re: Vis.js Library

2015-01-12 Thread PMario
Hi Felix,
Congratulations!

TiddlyWiki has 1008 github stars atm. It's on page 3 of the most starred 
projects at github 
https://github.com/stars?direction=descpage=3sort=stars now. A view 
days back we where far below 1000. So IMO your project and the mentioning 
of TW in the vis.js blog had some impact here. Thx ;)

have fun!
mario




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[tw] Re: [TWC] Fet script question

2015-01-12 Thread Tobias Beer
Now, let's make all that a little more readable...

forEachTiddler
 where
 'tiddler.tags.contains(expense)  tiddler.data(month) == Dec'
 script
 'function writeExpenseRow(index, tiddler, context) {
var result = ;
if (index == 0) {
context.sumExpenses = 0;
context.sumRevenues = 0;
result = |!Description|!Expenses|!Revenue|!Balance|!Sum Expenses|!Sum 
Revenues|!Total Balance|!Receipt|\n;
}
context.expenses = tiddler.data(expenses);
context.expenses = isNaN(context.expenses) ? 0 : context.expenses;
context.revenues = tiddler.data(revenues);
context.revenues = isNaN(context.revenues) ? 0 : context.revenues;
context.sumExpenses=context.sumExpenses+context.expenses;
context.sumRevenues=context.sumRevenues+context.revenues;
result +=
| + tiddler.data(descr) +
| + context.expenses +
| + context.revenues +
| + (context.revenues-context.expenses) +
| + context.sumExpenses +
| + context.sumRevenues +
| + (context.sumRevenues-context.sumExpenses) +
|[[+tiddler.title+]]|\n;
return result;
}'
 write
 'writeExpenseRow(index, tiddler, context)'



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Re: [tw] Re: Javascript Interaction with a Textarea

2015-01-12 Thread PMario
On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 4:34:28 PM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote:

 Hi Stephen,
  

 That being the case, I'm surprised that this works: 
 http://tbdemo.tiddlyspot.com/#Console%20Log%20Of%20Tiddler%20Sizes

 Perhaps I'm missing a key difference between inline Javascript in an 
 Onclick and what looks like inline Javascript in an a href=javascript.


This is a bug, because of security concerns. see: 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1350


 I think it would be quite a bummer if bookmarklets would no longer work.


In FireFox some bookmarklets, that are loaded or access http:// URIs are 
blocked if your current page is https:// 
There may be more restrictions in the future. 

-m


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Re: [tw] Re: Javascript Interaction with a Textarea

2015-01-12 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Mario,
 

 This is a bug, because of security concerns. see: 
 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1350


I believe there is a certain demand for something equivalent to TiddlySpace 
and...

config.evaluateMacroParameters = full;

...allowing users and authors to explicitly enable javascript urls in their 
wikis,
even script tags ...via a different config tiddler.

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Re: [tw] Re: Javascript Interaction with a Textarea

2015-01-12 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Stephen,
 

 That being the case, I'm surprised that this works: 
 http://tbdemo.tiddlyspot.com/#Console%20Log%20Of%20Tiddler%20Sizes

 Perhaps I'm missing a key difference between inline Javascript in an 
 Onclick and what looks like inline Javascript in an a href=javascript.


I think it would be quite a bummer if bookmarklets would no longer work.

As for running code in the console, it's really more of a conscious act to 
run that code...
Some browsers, e.g. Firefox have even started to ask you if you really want 
to do that.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TWC] Fet script question

2015-01-12 Thread Tobias Beer
The below assumes...

   1. that you tag any individual receipt with *receipt*
   2. that you define expenses as an *expenses* data field (can be 
   undefined)
   3. that you define revenues as an *revenues* data field (can be 
   undefined)

forEachTiddler
 where
 'tiddler.tags.contains(receipt)  tiddler.data(month) == Dec'
 script
 'function writeExpenseRow(index, tiddler, context) { var result = ; if 
(index == 0) {context.sumExpenses = 0; context.sumRevenues = 0; result = 
|!Description|!Expenses|!Revenue|!Balance|!Sum Expenses|!Sum 
Revenues|!Total Balance|!Receipt|\n;} context.expenses = 
tiddler.data(expenses); context.expenses = isNaN(context.expenses) ? 0 : 
context.expenses; context.revenues = tiddler.data(revenues); 
context.revenues = isNaN(context.revenues) ? 0 : context.revenues; 
context.sumExpenses=context.sumExpenses+context.expenses; 
context.sumRevenues=context.sumRevenues+context.revenues; result += | + 
tiddler.data(descr) + | + context.expenses + | + context.revenues + 
| + (context.revenues-context.expenses) +  | + context.sumExpenses + 
 | + context.sumRevenues + | + 
(context.sumRevenues-context.sumExpenses) + |[[+tiddler.title+]]|\n; 
return result;}'
 write
 'writeExpenseRow(index, tiddler, context)'


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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyDesktop v0.0.4

2015-01-12 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello Jeremy,

Terrific! Glad to see that TiddlyDesktop is not dead.

! New Features

 * Warning message when closing windows with unsaved changes (TWC and TW 
 5.1.8 and above only)

Very necesary
 

 * Help window

Will check it
 
 

 * Automatic backups

How are those backups performed?
What about  spell check?


 ! New Architecture

 TiddlyDesktop itself is now an instance of the Node.js edition of 
 TiddlyWiki. TiddlyWiki HTML files are run within embedded, sandboxed 
 iframes with the backstage TiddlyWiki providing services such as saving 
 to the file system.


Does this means that we can write a sync adaptor to the local file-system? 
Or even better, does the current one works?
 


 The advantage of this approach is that the user interface and 
 functionality of the desktop application can now be customised and extended 
 with exactly the same techniques that are used in regular TiddlyWiki.


I don't understand this at all. What limitations has the previous version 
of TDesktop?

 


 !! Coming Soon

 Can't wait!!!

 

 * configurable toolbars


Very very useful
 


 * hyperbookmarklets

What??
 


 * creating new wikis from standard editions and custom templates

Please, prioritize this. Currently it is very uncomfortable to start with a 
new empty TW, and even more difficult to start with your usual list of 
plugins. This will make TW to play a similar league than word or any other 
document editor, but better.
 

 * dragging `_canonical_uri` links from the file system

This will make a lot of people happy.
 
 

 * one-click copying of text to the clipboard from within TiddlyWiki

Useful and powerful
 

 * global keyboard shortcut for clipping content

Could you tell me an example?
 


 In doing this work on TiddlyDesktop over the last three weeks I've found 
 the answer to the question of its purpose: it is to provide a hosting 
 environment for TiddlyWiki documents that is as fertile to customisation, 
 extension and sharing as TiddlyWiki itself. Given the funding, I'd love for 
 this to preface the development of a smartphone/tablet app with similar 
 functionality. Is that something people would be interested in?

 Please do that!! I will use it at every place. Currently I use firefox for 
android, but I would prefer a dedicated, more powerful app. The best 
approach will be to have an application for TW and the possibility to turn 
every TW file into an application.

Thank you Jeremy for this!! Woho!

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyDesktop v0.0.4

2015-01-12 Thread Matthew DeAbreu
I seem to be having a slight problem with 0.0.4, I just downloaded it on my 
work machine (Windows 8.1 Pro x64) and when I try to start it a window 
briefly appears before quickly disappearing. After that 3 nw.exe remain in 
the task manager but nothing seems to be happening. Do you know if any 
logfiles are created so I can help find the cause of this problem?

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[tw] Add to top of ViewTemplate

2015-01-12 Thread Rustem
If I tag a tiddler with [[$:/tags/ViewTemplate]], it's content gets added 
to the bottom of the ViewTemplate.

I know I can modify [[$:/tags/ViewTemplate]] list field, but...

Is there an alternate way to add my content to the top of ViewTemplate, 
without overriding any system/shadow tiddlers?

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[tw] Re: Prerelease of 5.1.8

2015-01-12 Thread Astrid Elocson
I've just added a feature that I think greatly improves the readability of 
the railroad diagrams. Where the diagram loops back on itself, it now has 
an arrow to make it clear that the track runs from right to left at that 
point.

http://ae-railroad.tiddlyspot.com/

The arrow can be turned off by setting the $railroad widget's arrow 
attribute to no.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] BottomTabs plugin (v. 0.1)

2015-01-12 Thread Danielo Rodríguez


El viernes, 9 de enero de 2015, 19:46:29 (UTC+1), Alberto Molina escribió:

 Hi Danielo,

 I am currently working on a new version of the plugin, with less bugs, 
 better features, and much easier to customize. Its not yet finished but 
 usable enough. I just uploaded it so you can take advantage of the 
 customization enhancements: magictabs.tiddlyspot.com


But this is not compatible with the previous version right?
 

  

 I'm glad you find it useful. Unfortunately, the plugin for teachers is in 
 a very early phase of development, so there's not much features. 

Well, I don't want to use it as a teacher, but to give the students a good 
material where they can take notes and ideas.
 

  

 The field parent is just a way to categorize your contents, you can use 
 it as you wish. There's no restriction.

But I did not find any button or field to automatically create a new 
tiddler as a child.
 
 

 In order to better explain myself (and not spending hours figuring out how 
 to write it in english) I'm going to continue in spanish. But I promise to 
 write the documentation in english later on.

 En español. Imagino que lo que quieres hacer es adaptar las tablas para lo 
 que tú necesites. Yo traté de dividir las tablas en sus elementos 
 constitutivos, de modo que cada campo (título, etiquetas, texto, acerca de, 
 etc.) está en un tiddler diferente. De ese modo puedo reutilizarlos 
 independientemente uno de otro para hacer tablas diferentes. Por ejemplo el 
 campo about está en el tiddler $:/plugins/amp/MagicTabs/forms/input/about


Nice to hear that. I miss the forms at the sidebar to add new tiddlers of 
each type. Are they still there?
 


 Además, están como macros globales, de modo que si escribes inputAbout 
 en cualquier tiddler, te aparece el trozo de tabla correspondiente. En la 
 mayoría de los campos hay tres variables que puedes configurar: el label, 
 el tiddler temporal que usas para almacenar los datos, y el campo que 
 editas. Las variables label y field se pueden meter directamente en la 
 macro:
 inputAbout label:Acerca de field:about

 En cambio, el tiddler temporal se define desde fuera (porque dentro 
 aparece como $(tempTiddler)$:
 $set name=tempTiddler value=$:/temp/foo

 inputAbout label:Acerca de field:about

 /$set

 En algunos sólo se puede cambiar el tempTiddler (tendré que hacerlo para 
 todos cuando tenga tiempo):
 $set name=tempTiddler value=$:/temp/foo

 inputDescription

 /$set

 En algunos también se pueden definir placeholder y otras cosas, pero es 
 mejor verlo directamente en el tiddler correspondiente. Todos empiezan por 
 $:/plugins/amp/MagicTabs/forms/


This is very powerful. Maybe you can use this small explanation to add it 
to the documentation.

 

  

 

 Is there any way to add tiddlers under a topic?


 No entiendo muy bien lo que quieres decir. A cualquier tiddler se le 
 pueden añadir comentarios, notas, etc., y todos los tiddlers que estén 
 relacionados con éste aparecerán abajo en las pestañas correspondientes. 
 Por ejemplo, si tengo un tiddler Catedral de Salamanca, puedo añadirle 
 comentarios, notas y más cosas que sólo aparecerán ahí porque tienen los 
 campos about: [[Catedral de Salamanca]] o source: Catedral de Salamanca 
 o parent: [[Catedral de Salamanca]].

 Esto lo has entendido más en otro post.

 

 Si además a tu tiddler le asignas un tipo, con la etiqueta 
 $:/type/arquitectura, entonces puedes añadirle pestañas específicas a ese 
 tipo. Por ejemplo, debajo de cada tiddler con la etiqueta 
 $:/type/arquitectura puedo tener las pestañas Fotos, Elementos 
 destacados, Técnicas constructivas.


No termino de ver claro cómo añadir nuevas pestañas. Ok, creo un tiddler y 
le pongo una tag que empieze con $:/type/algo, pero luego dónde defino las 
tabs? Dónde aparecerán esas tabs? En todos los tiddlers?
 


 Ahora es más fácil crear nuevas pestañas. Basta con clonar el patrón 
 ($:/plugins/amp/MagicTabs/templates/tab) y rellenar los campos que quieras, 
 especialmente:


Con ahora te refieres a la última versión que estás desarollando o también 
incluye la anterior?
 


- *contents.tag:* ahí indicas la etiqueta de los tiddlers que quieres 
que aparezcan en la pestaña. Por ejemplo: $:/type/comments, 
$:/type/journal, tasks, etc.


Ok, creo que esto está relacionado con la pregunta anterior en la que te 
preguntaba cómo definir tabs, pero creo que se me escapa algo.  
 

 Bueno, espero que sea suficiente para que te hagas una idea. Pero no dudes 
 en preguntarme si tienes más dudas.



Muchas gracias! 

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[tw] Re: Add to top of ViewTemplate

2015-01-12 Thread Astrid Elocson
Give your tiddler a list-before field, but leave its value empty.

The techniques available are the same as described for tag ordering at 
http://tiddlywiki.com/#Tagging

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[tw] Re: Add to top of ViewTemplate

2015-01-12 Thread Rustem
Awesome! Thank you so much. Empty was too high, I gave it a value of 
$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/body.

On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 12:49:30 PM UTC-8, Astrid Elocson wrote:

 Give your tiddler a list-before field, but leave its value empty.

 The techniques available are the same as described for tag ordering at 
 http://tiddlywiki.com/#Tagging

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for the-insensitive links?

2015-01-12 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Astrid,
 

 While it's possible to use double square brackets to delimit a macro 
 parameter, these are merely an alternative for quotes. They have no link 
 semantics.


Not intrinsically, that is true...
as parameters they're just another way to enclose string literals.
However, in general, that's how they're used, not just in internal / pretty 
links.

For example, given `\define emphasis(_) //$_$//`, the call `emphasis 
 [[Target Tiddler]]` returns `//Target Tiddler//` rather than any kind of 
 link to Target Tiddler.


Sure, but I wouldn't write it that way if emphasis was the purpose of my 
macro.
Then I would use it like emphasis some string ...and that's how it 
should be recommended.
 

 I believe a macro parameter is *always* a mere string of characters, no 
 matter how it's passed. 

Even if you use the $macrocall widget,

   $macrocall $name=emphasis _=[[Target Tiddler]]/

 the parameter remains a string, in this case `[[Target Tiddler]]`.


While technically correct,
that looks like poor use of double square brackets to me...
and not what anyone would intrinsically do just to emphasize text,
rather than a link... it's entirely confusing markup.

The issue is that macros are dynamic, so they're not really suitable 
 candidates for the rapid indexing relied on by things like [backlinks[]] 
 and [all[orphans]].


Sometimes, it is vital to be aware of those references, something where TWc 
also fell short.
There could well be a recommendation to always use single or double quotes 
or triple double quotes for strings
and reserve double square brackets for tiddler titles only.

I wonder if the message No tiddlers link to this one on the References tab
  

ought to say No tiddlers contain static links to this one?


Perhaps tiddler-links, or TiddlyLinks but not static links.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyDesktop v0.0.4

2015-01-12 Thread Birthe C
Hi Matthew

I had the same experience in Windows 7. I tried on Linux (Ubuntu 12.04) 
also, no reaction at all.


Birthe


On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 8:51:51 PM UTC+1, Matthew DeAbreu wrote:

 I seem to be having a slight problem with 0.0.4, I just downloaded it on 
 my work machine (Windows 8.1 Pro x64) and when I try to start it a window 
 briefly appears before quickly disappearing. After that 3 nw.exe remain in 
 the task manager but nothing seems to be happening. Do you know if any 
 logfiles are created so I can help find the cause of this problem?


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[tw] Re: [TWC] Tiddler Refresh vs Close and re-open

2015-01-12 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Arc,

the problem is in *ThemedTiddlerPlugin*, not *ListBoxPlugin*,
it sets the class at the tiddler but never removes the old class when 
applying the new one.

I changed it to remember the *oldTheme*. Try this...

/***
|''Name:''|ThemedTiddlerPlugin |
|''Description:''|Per-Tiddler Mini-Themes |
|''Author:''|PaulDowney (psd (at) osmosoft (dot) com) |
|''Source:''|http://whatfettle.com/2008/07/ThemedTiddlerPlugin/ |
|''CodeRepository:''|http://svn.tiddlywiki.org/Trunk/contributors/PaulDowney/plugins/ThemedTiddlerPlugin/
 
|
|''Version:''|0.2 — fix Tobias Beer (oldTheme)|
|''License:''|[[BSD 
License|http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php]] |
|''Comments:''|Please make comments at 
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/TiddlyWikiDev |
|''~CoreVersion:''|2.4|
!!Documentation
The extended field theme is used to reference a tiddler containing a 
mini-theme


A mini-theme is a tiddler containing a [[ViewTemplate]], [[EditTemplate]] 
and [[StyleSheet]] sections which are applied when the tiddler is 
displayed. 


In addition, a CSS class of the theme name is added to the tiddler which 
may be useful when writing a mini-theme [[StyleSheet]]. 
!!Code
***/
//{{{
/*jslint onevar: false nomen: false plusplus: false */
/*global Story, store, setStylesheet, addClass */
if (!version.extensions.ThemedTiddlerPlugin) {
version.extensions.ThemedTiddlerPlugin = {installed: true};

Story.prototype.__chooseTemplateForTiddler = Story.prototype.
chooseTemplateForTiddler;
Story.prototype.chooseTemplateForTiddler = function (title, n)
{
// translate number into template name
var template = [ViewTemplate, EditTemplate][n ? n - 1 : 0];

var tiddler = store.getTiddler(title);

if (tiddler) {
var theme = tiddler.fields.theme;
if (theme) {

// assert stylesheet
var style = store.getTiddlerText(theme + '##StyleSheet');
if (style) {
setStylesheet(style, theme);
}

// return theme template
var slice = theme + '##' + template;
if (store.getTiddlerText(slice)) {
return slice;
}
}
}

// default template
return this.__chooseTemplateForTiddler.apply(this, arguments);
};

// assert theme name as a class on the tiddler
Story.prototype.__refreshTiddler = Story.prototype.refreshTiddler;
Story.prototype.refreshTiddler = function (title, template, force, 
customFields, defaultText)
{
var tiddlerElem = this.__refreshTiddler.apply(this, arguments),
tiddler = store.getTiddler(title),
oldTheme = tiddlerElem.getAttribute(oldTheme) || ,
newTheme = store.getTiddler(title).fields.theme;

if (tiddler) {
removeClass(tiddlerElem, oldTheme);
tiddlerElem.setAttribute(oldTheme, newTheme);
addClass(tiddlerElem, newTheme);
}
return tiddlerElem;
};
}
//}}}


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[tw] Re: Prerelease of 5.1.8

2015-01-12 Thread Tobias Beer


 http://ae-railroad.tiddlyspot.com/
 The arrow can be turned off by setting the $railroad widget's arrow 
 attribute to no.


Who would ever want to turn that off? ^^

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for the-insensitive links?

2015-01-12 Thread f10
Thank you for this, Tobias.
I'll try it out right now

Again, thanks!
Faith

On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 8:34:21 AM UTC-8, Tobias Beer wrote:


 Maybe you could use http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com 

 Look for the tiddler called *Aliases*.


 Did some recoding, simplifying, and so forth...

 http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#alink 
 http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Alias%20Links

 Best wishes, Tobias.


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Re: [tw] [TW5] Idea for a Hangouts TiddlyWiki

2015-01-12 Thread Tobias Beer


 So has anyone added the Emoticons from Github, Campfire and a bunch of 
 other sites http://www.emoji-cheat-sheet.com/ to TiddlyWiki 5?


I'm totally happy with FontAwesome, but emoticons... God beware. ^^

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[tw] Re: Add to top of ViewTemplate

2015-01-12 Thread Tobias Beer


 The techniques available are the same as described for tag ordering at 
 http://tiddlywiki.com/#Tagging


Possibly not the best spot to explain that, though.
Better have a TemplateOrder or some such.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for the-insensitive links?

2015-01-12 Thread Astrid Elocson
Hi Tobias,

 that looks like poor use of double square brackets to me...

Let me suggest a less abstract example, then. Your tb5 site offers a macro 
for colouring text http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Colored%20Text. One can 
easily imagine passing a whole sentence, e.g. a warning message, to this 
macro, and that sentence could contain a link. That link would not be 
detected by the link-tracking system that drives the References and Orphans 
tabs.

 There could well be a recommendation to always use single or double 
quotes or triple double quotes for strings and reserve double square 
brackets for tiddler titles only.

But that still wouldn't solve the general case in which a quote-delimited 
parameter can contain a double-square-bracketed link as *part* of its 
content.

 Perhaps tiddler-links, or TiddlyLinks but not static links.

I agree that static isn't the right word, but the alternatives you 
suggest could apply equally well to links generated on the fly by macros 
and widgets and whatnot. Perhaps we could speak of a literal link – a 
link that is literally present in the text field of a tiddler.

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[tw] Re: Add to top of ViewTemplate

2015-01-12 Thread Astrid Elocson
Agreed. In fact I almost mentioned that in my initial reply.

TemplateOrder sounds almost mystical :)

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[tw] Re: Prerelease of 5.1.8

2015-01-12 Thread Astrid Elocson
Indeed. But the author of the JavaScript library underlying the widget was 
aiming to reproduce the appearance of the railroad diagrams on the JSON site 
http://www.json.org/, and those lack arrows. So the widget makes the 
arrows optional.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for the-insensitive links?

2015-01-12 Thread Tobias Beer


 Let me suggest a less abstract example, then. Your tb5 site offers a 
 macro for colouring text http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Colored%20Text. One 
 can easily imagine passing a whole sentence, e.g. a warning message, to 
 this macro, and that sentence could contain a link. That link would not be 
 detected by the link-tracking system that drives the References and Orphans 
 tabs.


I know that it wouldn't and I think it could and perhaps should.

 There could well be a recommendation to always use single or double 
 quotes or triple double quotes for strings and reserve double square 
 brackets for tiddler titles only.

 But that still wouldn't solve the general case in which a quote-delimited 
 parameter can contain a double-square-bracketed link as *part* of its 
 content.


Whichever way the backlinks parser works, it would have to take care of 
that by having some kind of special parsing mode that includes macro 
parameters and element attributes, or simply matches anything in double 
square brackets that doesn't contain newlines.

 Perhaps tiddler-links, or TiddlyLinks but not static links.

 I agree that static isn't the right word, but the alternatives you 
 suggest could apply equally well to links generated on the fly by macros 
 and widgets and whatnot. Perhaps we could speak of a literal link – a 
 link that is literally present in the text field of a tiddler.


How about a manual link?

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Prerelease of 5.1.8

2015-01-12 Thread Tobias Beer


 Indeed. But the author of the JavaScript library underlying the widget was 
 aiming to reproduce the appearance of the railroad diagrams on the JSON 
 site http://www.json.org/, and those lack arrows. So the widget makes 
 the arrows optional.


Sure, technically you don't need them.
It just pops out quite nicely.

They could even be shorter,
if that's feasible.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for the-insensitive links?

2015-01-12 Thread f10
I apologize if this has been addressed elsewhere in this thread, but does 
this allow the use of multiple-word aliases? For example:
|first|first tiddler|the first tiddler|

If so, is there a certain way I should be formatting the code to accomplish 
that?

I appreciate all the help!
Faith

On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 8:34:21 AM UTC-8, Tobias Beer wrote:


 Maybe you could use http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com 

 Look for the tiddler called *Aliases*.


 Did some recoding, simplifying, and so forth...

 http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#alink 
 http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Alias%20Links

 Best wishes, Tobias.


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[tw] Re: [TW5] YoutubePlugin (tentative)

2015-01-12 Thread Alberto Molina
Hi Tobias and all,

I have created a demo of YouTube plugin working and MagicTabs plugin 
working together: youtabs.tiddlyspot.com

   - It shows a tab with annotations at the bottom of every video tiddler. 
   - It lacks a template tiddler to show the list of annotations (easy to 
   add, but depends on your preferences).

The process of creating custom new magic tabs is explained in 5 easy steps. 

Regards,

Alberto

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[tw] Re: Prerelease of 5.1.8

2015-01-12 Thread Astrid Elocson
Hi Tobias,

 They could even be shorter, if that's feasible.

Good idea – done.

The shorter arrow also means I no longer need to artificially increase the 
height of the backward arc to avoid a cramped appearance.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] BottomTabs plugin (v. 0.1)

2015-01-12 Thread Alberto Molina
Hi Danielo,
 

 I am currently working on a new version of the plugin, with less bugs, 
 better features, and much easier to customize. Its not yet finished but 
 usable enough. I just uploaded it so you can take advantage of the 
 customization enhancements: magictabs.tiddlyspot.com


 But this is not compatible with the previous version right?


No. There a two incompatibilities:

   1. Tiddler names: all the tiddler names containing $:/…*/amp/BT/*… have 
   changes to $:/…*/amp/MagicTabs/*… I did the change using the 
   search/replace of a text editor.
   2. Tabs fields: fields like *filter* and *template* have changed to 
   *list.filter* and *list.template*, and other fields have been added.
  - That affects also the macros tabContents, tabCaption and 
  inputSlider.
  - But if you didn't create your own custom tabs, I think it should 
  not affect you.
   
Another problem is that the refactoring is not finished and I have not 
tested enough, so MagicTabs could be atm even more buggy than BottomTabs.


 

 I'm glad you find it useful. Unfortunately, the plugin for teachers is in 
 a very early phase of development, so there's not much features. 

 Well, I don't want to use it as a teacher, but to give the students a good 
 material where they can take notes and ideas.


Then the basic plugin could be enough since I added as default tabs: 
comments, notes, ideas…



 

  The field parent is just a way to categorize your contents, you can use 
 it as you wish. There's no restriction.
 But I did not find any button or field to automatically create a new 
 tiddler as a child.


For the parent field, there's no button atm. But if you use the 
form+button in the tabs to add a comment, a note, an idea, etc., it will 
automatically be added as a child (through the fields about or source) 
in the info tab.
 

Nice to hear that. I miss the forms at the sidebar to add new tiddlers of 
 each type. Are they still there?


No, there's only a button for adding people. Use instead the form+button 
inside the tabs, or, if you want independent notes and ideas, use the 
MagicTabs tiddler to add them. The other buttons have not been created so 
far.

 

 This is very powerful. Maybe you can use this small explanation to add it 
 to the documentation.


After I finish v.0.2 of the plugin, I will dedicate v.0.3 to documentation. 
New features moratorium :p



 

  No termino de ver claro cómo añadir nuevas pestañas. Ok, creo un tiddler 
 y le pongo una tag que empieze con $:/type/algo, pero luego dónde defino 
 las tabs? Dónde aparecerán esas tabs? En todos los tiddlers?


Its very easy: if you create a tiddler tagged $:/tabs/foo, it will appear 
as a bottom tab in every tiddler tagged $:/type/foo and only there (unless 
you choose to have it as a default tab, and you can do that with the tag 
$:/action/is/default, or go to the control panel, under appearance and 
magic tabs tweaks). 

I explain how to create custom new types and tabs in 5 easy tabs here: 
http://youtabs.tiddlyspot.com/

 

Ahora es más fácil crear nuevas pestañas. Basta con clonar el patrón 
 ($:/plugins/amp/MagicTabs/templates/tab) y rellenar los campos que quieras, 
 especialmente:


 Con ahora te refieres a la última versión que estás desarollando o también 
 incluye la anterior?


Yes, with the MagicTabs revision, it is much easier to create new tabs (and 
it will be even easier when I finish) because the macros tabContents 
and tabCaption use default parameters. It is enough to fill the field 
contents.tag with a tag to get a working tab with a list of results that 
you can customize filling other fields. It is detailed in 
http://youtabs.tiddlyspot.com/


- *contents.tag:* ahí indicas la etiqueta de los tiddlers que quieres 
que aparezcan en la pestaña. Por ejemplo: $:/type/comments, 
$:/type/journal, tasks, etc.

 Ok, creo que esto está relacionado con la pregunta anterior en la que te 
 preguntaba cómo definir tabs, pero creo que se me escapa algo.  


If you want a tab showing a list of journal tiddlers, add the 
field+content: *contents.tag: $:/type/journal* to that tab tiddler.
 

Saludos,

Alberto



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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for the-insensitive links?

2015-01-12 Thread f10
Never mind, I figured it out!

On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 6:51:08 PM UTC-8, f10 wrote:

 I apologize if this has been addressed elsewhere in this thread, but does 
 this allow the use of multiple-word aliases? For example:
 |first|first tiddler|the first tiddler|

 If so, is there a certain way I should be formatting the code to 
 accomplish that?

 I appreciate all the help!
 Faith

 On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 8:34:21 AM UTC-8, Tobias Beer wrote:


 Maybe you could use http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com 

 Look for the tiddler called *Aliases*.


 Did some recoding, simplifying, and so forth...

 http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#alink 
 http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Alias%20Links

 Best wishes, Tobias.



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[tw] Re: [TWC] Tiddler Refresh vs Close and re-open

2015-01-12 Thread Arc Acorn
Thanks a ton again Tobias!
Works great, and will make my sister way happy. 
She's not super savvy with CSS so she wanted an easy way to apply and 
switch through a small number of different mini-themes per each tiddler. 


P/s 
As a note to anybody else if they ever use this:
For some reason Google decided to quote parts of the code so make sure to 
expand it and than delete the two - hide quoted text - after pasting into 
your tiddlywiki.


On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 1:36:44 PM UTC-8, Tobias Beer wrote:

 Hi Arc,

 the problem is in *ThemedTiddlerPlugin*, not *ListBoxPlugin*,
 it sets the class at the tiddler but never removes the old class when 
 applying the new one.

 I changed it to remember the *oldTheme*. Try this...

 /***
 |''Name:''|ThemedTiddlerPlugin |
 |''Description:''|Per-Tiddler Mini-Themes |
 |''Author:''|PaulDowney (psd (at) osmosoft (dot) com) |
 |''Source:''|http://whatfettle.com/2008/07/ThemedTiddlerPlugin/ |
 |''CodeRepository:''|
 http://svn.tiddlywiki.org/Trunk/contributors/PaulDowney/plugins/ThemedTiddlerPlugin/
  
 |
 |''Version:''|0.2 — fix Tobias Beer (oldTheme)|
 |''License:''|[[BSD License|
 http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php]] |
 |''Comments:''|Please make comments at 
 http://groups.google.co.uk/group/TiddlyWikiDev |
 |''~CoreVersion:''|2.4|
 !!Documentation
 The extended field theme is used to reference a tiddler containing a 
 mini-theme


 A mini-theme is a tiddler containing a [[ViewTemplate]], [[EditTemplate]] 
 and [[StyleSheet]] sections which are applied when the tiddler is 
 displayed. 


 In addition, a CSS class of the theme name is added to the tiddler which 
 may be useful when writing a mini-theme [[StyleSheet]]. 
 !!Code
 ***/
 //{{{
 /*jslint onevar: false nomen: false plusplus: false */
 /*global Story, store, setStylesheet, addClass */
 if (!version.extensions.ThemedTiddlerPlugin) {
 version.extensions.ThemedTiddlerPlugin = {installed: true};

 Story.prototype.__chooseTemplateForTiddler = Story.prototype.
 chooseTemplateForTiddler;
 Story.prototype.chooseTemplateForTiddler = function (title, n)
 {
 // translate number into template name
 var template = [ViewTemplate, EditTemplate][n ? n - 1 : 0];

 var tiddler = store.getTiddler(title);

 if (tiddler) {
 var theme = tiddler.fields.theme;
 if (theme) {

 // assert stylesheet
 var style = store.getTiddlerText(theme + '##StyleSheet');
 if (style) {
 setStylesheet(style, theme);
 }

 // return theme template
 var slice = theme + '##' + template;
 if (store.getTiddlerText(slice)) {
 return slice;
 }
 }
 }

 // default template
 return this.__chooseTemplateForTiddler.apply(this, arguments);
 };

 // assert theme name as a class on the tiddler
 Story.prototype.__refreshTiddler = Story.prototype.refreshTiddler;
 Story.prototype.refreshTiddler = function (title, template, force, 
 customFields, defaultText)
 {
 var tiddlerElem = this.__refreshTiddler.apply(this, arguments),
 tiddler = store.getTiddler(title),
 oldTheme = tiddlerElem.getAttribute(oldTheme) || ,
 newTheme = store.getTiddler(title).fields.theme;

 if (tiddler) {
 removeClass(tiddlerElem, oldTheme);
 tiddlerElem.setAttribute(oldTheme, newTheme);
 addClass(tiddlerElem, newTheme);
 }
 return tiddlerElem;
 };
 }
 //}}}


 Best wishes, Tobias.


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for the-insensitive links?

2015-01-12 Thread Astrid Elocson
Hi Tobias,

Sorry if I misunderstood. I got the impression we were talking slightly at 
cross-purposes, so felt the need to clarify further. But we're in agreement.

Manual link isn't bad.

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[tw] Table of Content generate from tags

2015-01-12 Thread James
Hi All,

First of all, I am aware of the existing function TableOfContentsMacro 
Expandable, but the function only show the hierarchy of tags and sub-tags.

I am looking for a solution to automate the Table of Content using the tags.

For instance,

Economics
- Journals
- Articles
Business
- Journals
- Whitepaper

:. Tiddlers that tagged with Journals are tagged with Economics.  Those 
tiddlers tagged with Journals and NOT Economics will no show in the 
list.

I have a bunch of journals categories into different subjects and 
categories.  How can I generate a list like above?

Thanks for your time.  I apology if the explanation is too confusing.

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[tw] [TW5] I asked a question a long time ago and it is still relevant today

2015-01-12 Thread RichShumaker
I was researching me and I read something I wrote a long time ago.
It is actually very relevant now as we are discussing eating our own dog 
food methods for this forum.

I would think one of the first steps would be to download all the TW Google 
Group Data(and Dev Data), Parse It, and Inject it into a TW5.
Anyone have any clues on how to even start to do something like this?

Ideally we could start our own TW5 forum thing in the future with all the 
data from the past and a method to show only TW5 or just TWC data.

Let me know what you guys think and as always thank you for your help.

Rich Shumaker

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[tw] Re: [TW5] The POSTER is up and ready for you to print out!

2015-01-12 Thread Jon
Great poster but really not keen on the messy

Jon

On Monday, 12 January 2015 10:26:52 UTC, Mat wrote:

 Fellow tiddlywikians, it is with *great* pride I announce that we have 
 our first TiddlyWiki poster! 

 Jeremy expressed his liking and he and Duarte did the finishing job so 
 that we now have [drumroll]

 http://tiddlywiki.com/poster

 Thanks to the - not only astonishing art work of Duarte - but also his 
 generous extra work (for lack of a better term), there are *multiple* 
 versions, including a pdf-version 
 http://tiddlywiki.com/poster/images/TiddlyWiki_TiddlerPoster_en.pdf for 
 direct printout on a common A4 / letter size paper. Easy as pie!!!

 Where is the best place to put it up? Can you think of somewhere? Imagine 
 if there were a few people around you who also enjoyed TiddlyWiki that you 
 could tiddlefiddle with :-)

 Who here will be the *first* to put one up?


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Re: [tw] [TW5] Idea for a Hangouts TiddlyWiki

2015-01-12 Thread RichShumaker


 So has anyone added the Emoticons from Github, Campfire and a bunch of 
 other sites http://www.emoji-cheat-sheet.com/ to TiddlyWiki 5?


 I'm totally happy with FontAwesome, but emoticons... God beware. ^^


The happy is on my face because you said that as it is too true insert 
crazy emoticon here

Rich Shumaker

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[tw] Re: Vis.js Library

2015-01-12 Thread Tobias Beer
Big thumbs up, Felix,
on all of your work
and the fruits to reap
for you and all of us to enjoy.

Best wishes, Tobias. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for the-insensitive links?

2015-01-12 Thread Astrid Elocson
On further reflection, the problem of backlinks and orphans is not as 
important as I initially thought. Links that are automatically generated by 
a filter-based widget will normally always be links to *existing* tiddlers, 
otherwise the filter wouldn't have selected them. So these links can be 
filed under things the system takes care of so you don't have to.

But it's potentially problematic that the system doesn't keep track of 
links within macro parameters. If TiddlerOne passes a sentence of ordinary 
text to a simple macro that just returns its parameter in bold with a red 
background, and if that sentence contains a link to TiddlerTwo, then it 
would be nice if TiddlerTwo recognised TiddlerOne on its info References 
tab. I suppose the difficulty is that the system can't easily detect 
whether the macro returns its parameter intact.

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Idea for a Hangouts TiddlyWiki

2015-01-12 Thread RichShumaker
My arms were up all night Birthe hence no reply, #heheh
At first I was shaking my fist in the air with a vengeance at CloudFlare 
and not figuring it out sooner, Thanks BJ and everyone for your help.
Then I was this emoticon, *o/*.
I did not know that adding * to either side meant jump in 
emotospeak(emoji), I just keep learning.

So has anyone added the Emoticons from Github, Campfire and a bunch of 
other sites http://www.emoji-cheat-sheet.com/ to TiddlyWiki 5?

Thanks again everyone for the help.
Now that I know what I am making won't explode when uploaded I will be 
getting more done today.

Rich Shumaker

On Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 11:26:35 PM UTC-8, Birthe C wrote:

 Hi Rich,

 What a relief! What kind of jumping emoticon are you missing now? #he he, 
 I am guessing you can not get your arms down.


 Birthe


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[tw] Re: [TWC] Fet script question

2015-01-12 Thread Tobias Beer
And here's a demo...

http://scripts.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BF%3A%20income%20report%5D%5D

Best wishes, Tobias. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for the-insensitive links?

2015-01-12 Thread Astrid Elocson
Hi Tobias,

 So long as (part of?) a macro parameter is declared via double square 
brackets, that may be achieved.

How so? While it's possible to use double square brackets to delimit a 
macro parameter, these are merely an alternative for quotes. They have no 
link semantics.

For example, given `\define emphasis(_) //$_$//`, the call `emphasis 
[[Target Tiddler]]` returns `//Target Tiddler//` rather than any kind of 
link to Target Tiddler.

I believe a macro parameter is *always* a mere string of characters, no 
matter how it's passed. Even if you use the $macrocall widget,

  $macrocall $name=emphasis _=[[Target Tiddler]]/

the parameter remains a string, in this case `[[Target Tiddler]]`.

The issue is that macros are dynamic, so they're not really suitable 
candidates for the rapid indexing relied on by things like [backlinks[]] 
and [all[orphans]].

I wonder if the message No tiddlers link to this one on the References 
tab ought to say No tiddlers contain static links to this one?

– æ

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[tw] Re: [TWC] Tiddler Refresh vs Close and re-open

2015-01-12 Thread Arc Acorn
bump

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[tw] Re: [TW5] The POSTER is up and ready for you to print out!

2015-01-12 Thread Mat
PMario wrote:
Is there a chance, that we have the diamond one as an SVG too?
 
A nice one, in deed. Duarte is the one to answer. But I think we all 
(including Duarte) agreed that the contributions to the competition were to 
be considered property of the community so I guess anyone is welcome to 
work on it. 

Jeremy had some suggestions for how to host several posters on tw.com so 
I'm sure he'd be positive.

I think it would be nice with a type of gallery if we had more posters. 
However, they would have to hold a certain standard and as became very 
obvious in the aftermath of the competition, there is quite some work to 
get the final bits in place. An idea, that I have not discussed with 
Jeremy, could perhaps be a list of links there to peoples unofficial 
contributions hosted on their own sites. This could be good because it 
would mean others can pick up on something and improve it. Well, it's a 
question for when he is back.

:-)

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[tw] Re: Vis.js Library

2015-01-12 Thread Felix Küppers
@Tobi, @Mario

Thanks guys. I am also happy about this synergy effect.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for the-insensitive links?

2015-01-12 Thread Tobias Beer


 But it's potentially problematic that the system doesn't keep track of 
 links within macro parameters. If TiddlerOne passes a sentence of ordinary 
 text to a simple macro that just returns its parameter in bold with a red 
 background, and if that sentence contains a link to TiddlerTwo, then it 
 would be nice if TiddlerTwo recognised TiddlerOne on its info References 
 tab. I suppose the difficulty is that the system can't easily detect 
 whether the macro returns its parameter intact.


So long as (part of?) a macro parameter is declared via double square 
brackets, that may be achieved.
When using just quotes that's a lot more complicated as it's just as likely 
a mere string.

Best wishes, Tobias. 

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Re: [tw] Re: javascript macro / macrocall problem

2015-01-12 Thread Jim Lehmer

On 1/12/2015 7:24 AM, 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki wrote:
preview pane, the editor is little more than a textarea box. If we 
could get it to look as good as the editor we use when posting 
messages to this group, I would be ecstatic. And it would make life a 
lot easier on the new users without detracting from Tiddlywiki's power.


I have had the very same thought, multiple times when typing a TW group 
message into Google Groups - I want */this /*editor in TW! Especially 
since I tend to move between Markdown (er, CommonMark :) and TW quite a 
bit, and am always using the wrong syntax (I posted a pull request to 
another project on GitHub the other day and used TW's link syntax!)


The editor would still need a way to drop to native syntax for 
specifying widgets, defining macros, etc., but for the type of people 
(including me at times) who just want to use TW for quick notetaking and 
not have to remember the syntax for bolding, I think it would be a huge 
win. In fact, given that Ctrl-B, Ctrl-I, Ctrl-U are almost all uniform 
in meaning across most WYSIWYG editors, just having those three hot keys 
enabled would be a great start.


Tiddlywiki is also, by a fair margin, the most sophisticated program 
I've run into in years (and I'll wager my number of years in the 
computer field rival anyone else's)


I've been 35 years in the industry, 27 with 
programmer/engineer/architect attached to my title. Am I close? :)


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[tw] Re: New User Experiment #1 (Long Post)

2015-01-12 Thread Mat
@Stephen

Thank you for your reply. I appreciate the thinking you put into this.

But how many tiddlers does someone who isn't experienced with TiddlyWiki 
 have to look at to figure out how to do those?

 
I'm reminded of, RichShumakers request for a sequence to learn things, 
where there at his level probably is none, but for complete newbies there 
probably can be - also for more technically competent people. 

:-)


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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] YoutubePlugin (tentative)

2015-01-12 Thread RichShumaker
Tobias that simply made me SMILE *:)* !!!

Got it, loops are only on full videos.
I was using triggers (somehow) to play the videos over and over when I 
press the button.
So I was manually looping it.
 
The crazy idea in my head was MakeyMakey http://makeymakey.com/ to 
trigger YouTube inside TW and since I found mousetrap(Link 1 
http://craig.is/killing/mice, Link 2 http://welford.github.io/#Hello, Link 
3 https://github.com/welford/twmousetrap) last night that crazy idea 
became less crazy.
Community Search is amazing and very helpful.

Build idea - Button inside TW for playing YouTube video that you assign to 
the keyboard and then map to MakeyMakey.
Add a drum loop and you have the next big YouTube World Sensation, Autotune 
for 2015 and I am R$ take that TPain.

Rich Shumaker


On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 7:11:25 AM UTC-8, Tobias Beer wrote:

 Hi Rich,
  

 Here's the question, Can multiple video's appear in a single Tiddler 
 using your YouTube stuff?
 I tried but couldn't figure it out and will try some more today as it was 
 fun to use and create.


 Just for the fun of it...

 http://youtube.tiddlyspot.com/#EndlessLoopingWeirdness

 Best wishes, Tobias.


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Re: [tw] Re: javascript macro / macrocall problem

2015-01-12 Thread 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki


 Tiddlywiki is also, by a fair margin, the most sophisticated program I've 
 run into in years (and I'll wager my number of years in the computer field 
 rival anyone else's) 


 I've been 35 years in the industry, 27 with 
 programmer/engineer/architect attached to my title. Am I close? :)


Close. Not that it matters at all but... My first job as a programmer 
started in 1965. In November of 1979, I was a contributing editor of 
Creative Computing magazine.  

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Re: [tw] Re: javascript macro / macrocall problem

2015-01-12 Thread Jim Lehmer

On 1/12/2015 12:36 PM, 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki wrote:
Close. Not that it matters at all but... My first job as a programmer 
started in 1965. In November of 1979, I was a contributing editor of 
Creative Computing magazine.


You win. :)

Although even so I realized I am not good doing math with really big 
numbers, because this is my 29th year programming professionally, not my 
27th. Yikes!


And I remember /Creative Computing/.

Now in respect to the other list members, we greybeards should quit 
discussing our back in the day bonafides. :)


Hey, you kids! Get offa my dot matrix printer! (waves cane)

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