date:20160103

Hi Eric, Erwan,
 

> - when I tested this solution I found that modifying 
>> $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate apparently caused a bug in the navigation: when 
>> clicking on a link from the "open" or "recent" tab, the browser doesn't 
>> take me to the tiddler as it should. I tested with Firefox and Chrome on a 
>> TW version 5.1.8 (does that matter?).
>>
>
> I tested this directly on http://tiddlywiki.com 
> ,
>  
> and didn't see the problem you describe.  Perhaps you broke something 
> during editing?
>

I can confirm the broken navigation behavior as well on both 
*tiddlywiki.com* and *prerelease* in Chrome / Win10.

Best wishes,

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Re: [tw] Re: Syncing solutions for Android

Hi

It should auto sync -- doesn't sound like you have it set up correctly. I 
remember having teething problems getting this to work:

1. Install the App in Chrome: 
https://www.maketecheasier.com/manually-install-extensions-google-chrome/
2. Open your wiki in a Chrome tab
3. Copy the attached plugin file across to your wiki (I modified the 
original slightly -- can't remember what I did)
4. Save and refresh your wiki to activate the plugin
5. Close the wiki tab in Chrome
6. Open the TiddlyChrome App
7. Open your recently saved tw5.html file

Once you have one wiki working -- its easy after that:
1. Open the new wiki in a Chrome tab
2. Drag the attached file (from you HD or from another wiki) across to your 
new wiki
3. Save and reload the wiki
4. After that, it should load with the App

Good luck!

On Monday, 4 January 2016 00:47:28 UTC+2, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> Matabele, 
>
> I am trying it, but it doesn't seem to work. I installed the app OK, it 
> opens a stripped down broswer window for the wiki. I click the tidlly's 
> check mark, but if I reload it's lost. if I click the check mark on the 
> sidebar, it prompts me to save a html file with a temporary name... so, 
> what's the point of that? Is this how it's supposed to work? 
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 3:03 PM Matabele  
> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Perhaps you could export only the modified tiddlers to Dropbox or GD -- 
>> then drag them across to your other wiki. Saves having to up/dowload the 
>> whole wiki.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> On Sunday, 3 January 2016 21:05:50 UTC+2, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>
>>> I'm new to TW.
>>>
>>> I was wondering how some of you solve the issue of syncing? I have an 
>>> Android phone, and I use Google Drive. I have to manually download the 
>>> file, then copy it to the folder for the TW app, make changes, then upload 
>>> it back to GD (again, manually) and overwrite the existing version. There 
>>> must be a better way? 
>>>
>>> Currently I'm setting up an old Mac for a remote desktop access; this 
>>> way I hope to run TW with Firefox and the plugin that will auto-save. This 
>>> will still not solve the problem on my phone, but at least I could work 
>>> with the file remotely without overwriting each time (I live in Chrome and 
>>> I'm not going to install Firfox just for the plugin). Was wondering what 
>>> are some of the solutions you came up with? 
>>>
>>> Thanks! 
>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: Square brackets, transclusion, and widget problem

Hi David,
 

> I just need a way to override the link widget's formatting now.  Otherwise 
> Eric Shulman's solution works beautifully.
>

Unfortunately, that is not true. Although you may feel like you can avoid 
retrieving the title using a variable, you do need a proper reference and 
*[[Some 
Title]]* is not while *Some Title* is.

The one thing I could think is to not use any link widget at all but to 
transclude the planet field as is, since it already does contain the link 
notation, e.g. *[[Some Title]]*... so simply inserting that via 
*{{!!planet}}* should produce a link, e.g.:

title: any title
planet: [[Some Planet]]

{{!!planet}} <= this will be a link!

However, using an editor equivalent to the tags editor, any values that do 
*not* contain spaces will be saved without double square brackets, so...

title: any other title
planet: Earth

{{!!planet}} <= this will NOT be a link!

So, as I or Eric suggested, you do need to retrieve the given item from a 
list-field and store it in a variable ...to be able to properly construct 
the link using the link widget.

Ergo: It is not simply a matter of styles / formatting.

Best wishes,

Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Syncing solutions for Android

Hi

My syncing app of choice is SyncThing: https://syncthing.net/ -- its open 
source and works somewhat alike btSync v 1.0

regards

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> I skip the middleman and use Cheetah sync to synchronize TW files with the 
> desktop PC. 
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Behaviour of the list-links macro with camelcase caption field value

Hi Jeremy / FrD,

So, there may be two unexpected things going on: that the caption field is 
> wikified, and that links can be nested.


I find this to be problematic as well, but I understand how the caption 
needs transcludability for translation purposes. 

But it's somewhat disconcerting to have a link which is displayed among the 
> others and doesn't work.
> I'll take care to use non camelcase captions or to escape them with ~.
>

There are several ways to remedy the problem, assuming that the caption 
field is *always transcluded*:

   1. escape a simple caption using *caption: ~SomeCaption*
   2. use some wikitext markup to just output text, e.g. *caption: <$text 
   text={{SomeDictionary##some-index}}/>*
  - especially when retrieving the caption from elsewhere
 - so you would't know if it contained any camelcased content
  
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[tw] Re: Is it possible to apply an opacity setting to my tiddlers via css?

Hi Matabele,
 

> I have posted a highly styled TW5 here  -- 
> this includes several custom stylesheets where you may find examples of how 
> to set various CSS styles.
>

The one thing I've always found "missing" in your wiki is a search box. :-)

Best wishes,

Tobias. 

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[tw] [TW5] drop down list for book references requested

2016-01-03 Thread Jon

Hi,

I have been using Danielo's footnotes for some time to insert a reference 
to the source of the material typing <> 
which then appears as a clickable "1" (or there's a later variant of the 
macro where the information is revealed on hover).

This is great, but it means I have to manually insert the notation and the 
source each time.

I came across Tobias's list popup at 
http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#appear and wondered if this could be 
adapted to insert the text from the list into the tiddler, the list would 
then be the various book titles from which one would be chosen.

Or, if there is something already out there which has been done for the job?

Thanks in advance
Jon

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[tw] Re: [TW5] drop down list for book references requested

2016-01-03 Thread Jon

Hi Jed,

I hadn't thought that bit through, but yes, I was thinking of it working 
whilst I edit the tiddler and your suggestion sounds like it would work 
nicely. Would <> call book 1 and <> call book 2? or 
would <> call the whole list and then you can select book 3?

Thanks, Jon

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> I am not sure where you want the dropdown to be. Are you imagining 
> something as you edit the tiddler?
>
> It shouldn't be too terribly difficult to edit the footnote macro so you 
> would only need to do <> and then have a data tiddler that 
> lists the references and get the same result as the current footnote macro 
> but you wouldn't need to type out the second input every time. That way you 
> could also edit all the references from a central location and they would 
> all be updated.
>
> Without more about what sort of workflow you want that is as much as I can 
> say.
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[tw] Re: [TW5] drop down list for book references requested

Using <> for book 1 wouldn't be hard to do, making <> list the first footnote which you then set would be more difficult and 
you couldn't set it in the editor without a lot of work.

The two reasonable options would be <> which always gives the 
same reference wherever it is or <> which marks the first 
footnote and after you leave the editor there is a one-time dropdown menu 
at the location of the footnote in the text which you can use to set the 
reference for that footnote. 
Unless you have some great desire for the second version I would suggest 
the first one. While the second one is doable it would be pretty complex to 
create because of the bookkeeping required.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] drop down list for book references requested

2016-01-03 Thread Jon

Hi Jed,


The first option would mean the user would first need to remember which 
footnote referred to the book they wanted to reference, so it wouldn't work 
well in practice, particularly as the list grows.

The ideal, as you've suggested, would be to be able to reference a list 
from a central location, so I think the 2nd option would be preferred but I 
appreciate the complexity involved might mean it's not worth the bother.

Thanks, Jon

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> Using <> for book 1 wouldn't be hard to do, making < 1>> list the first footnote which you then set would be more difficult and 
> you couldn't set it in the editor without a lot of work.
>
> The two reasonable options would be <> which always gives the 
> same reference wherever it is or <> which marks the first 
> footnote and after you leave the editor there is a one-time dropdown menu 
> at the location of the footnote in the text which you can use to set the 
> reference for that footnote. 
> Unless you have some great desire for the second version I would suggest 
> the first one. While the second one is doable it would be pretty complex to 
> create because of the bookkeeping required.
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[tw] Re: [TW5] drop down list for book references requested

I am not sure where you want the dropdown to be. Are you imagining 
something as you edit the tiddler?

It shouldn't be too terribly difficult to edit the footnote macro so you 
would only need to do <> and then have a data tiddler that 
lists the references and get the same result as the current footnote macro 
but you wouldn't need to type out the second input every time. That way you 
could also edit all the references from a central location and they would 
all be updated.

Without more about what sort of workflow you want that is as much as I can 
say.

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[tw] [TW5] Updated plugin: tobibeer/setvars

Hi everyone,

I just released version 0.6.0 
 of 
tobibeer/setvars .

Get the update from here:

http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#setvars

Release Notes:

   - fixed bug in OR logic (introduced with last version, sry)
   - added bracketed OR argument
  - also allowing shorthand if clause as simply:
 - (condition ? then)
  - bracketed OR example:
 - (condition ? then) || (this || \that\ [more])
  - allows (non-)equality checks in if clause *condition*
  - here an if-else-if construct comparing against first a literal and 
  then another attribute:
 - (foo == \true\ ? this) || (foo == bar ? that)
  - added test edition
  - about time ;-)
   - docs improvements
  - added tobibeer/eval  
example 
  (using math.js)
  - more / improved examples
   
Best wishes,

Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] AutoCorrectPlugin: Any Equivalent for Replacing Text Strings

Hi Scott,
 

> (I include the sort operator because you'd want some predictability in 
> replacments.  See here for an example related to the old autocorrect 
> plugin. )
>

Actually, if you wanted predictability, the mechanism will do no sorting 
whatsoever but walk through the indexes in the very sequence they are 
specified in the dictionaries. As for dictionaries themselves, the list 
field of the corresponding system-tag would declare precedence of one 
dictionary over the other.

There should also be some way to specify exceptions to where 
> auto-correction occurs.
>

I think each dictionary should have a *filter* field that specifies what 
tiddlers a given dictionary applies to.

In Simon's original plugin, this was done by adding a tag (excludeWikiWords) 
> to tiddlers you wanted to exclude from the plugin's reach.  Given the 
> extended capabilities of TW5, though, I imagine this could also be a 
> setting in the plugin, configurable in the same way as the list of 
> dictionary tiddlers.  (E.g., a list of tiddlers or a macro call like <$list 
> filter="[tag[excludeWikiWords]prefix[$:/]]" />.) 
>

I don't see such a plugin using list widgets but rather query the wiki for 
replacement definitions in dictionary tiddlers directly (using js). So, any 
configurations will have to be bound to the dictionaries themselves, I 
think. Therefore, the only true option I see right now is the *filter*.

Best wishes,

Tobias.

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[tw] Re: can't solve CSS problem with tag pill drop-down list

Hi Erwan,

The problem is that $:/core/ui/ListItemTemplate serves two radically 
different designs... whereas in a *.tc-drop-down*, all links or buttons are 
rendered in block mode ...and whenever this template is not used within one 
of those they are note forced into block mode.

I'm thinking that any dropdowns in the core need to implement their own 
item template and not use $:/core/ui/ListItemTemplate. At least, it needs 
to be possible to override what template is being used for list items in 
dropdowns independent from general list-items.

Best wishes,

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[tw] Re: [TW5] drop down list for book references requested

Hi Jed,
 

> The question is how the macro references the citations, either as 1, 2, 3 
> etc. (or whatever key is used) or as a placeholder for footnote 1 which is 
> then set to the desired citation using a drop-down menu in view mode..
>

I think citations should always be referenced somewhat like *[Meyer2000]*... 
which some macro may use as a reference to an index or tiddler, but 
otherwise not touch. to me, those are unique (reference) identifiers that 
the author of a document (/tiddler) defines in an unambiguous manner, which 
is never generated, and wouldn't be very practical if it was just some 
incremented numeric index of some data tiddler.

In fact, that data tiddler should hold the user defined index, in a 
readable manner, sorted alphabetically... while the value should adhere to 
some common citation style so as to specify a fully qualified source 
reference.

Best wishes,

Tobias.

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Re: [tw] Re: can't solve CSS problem with tag pill drop-down list

Hi Erwan,
 

> Do you know how to solve this? do you think maybe I'm stretching the use 
> of $:/core/ui/ListItemTemplate too much?
>

Try to also play with width and padding... best use your browsers 
inspection tools to see what css rules actually apply... and modify in that 
"console" to play with the settings until satisfactory.

Best wishes,

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[tw] Syncing solutions for Android

2016-01-03 Thread Shay Shaked

I'm new to TW.

I was wondering how some of you solve the issue of syncing? I have an 
Android phone, and I use Google Drive. I have to manually download the 
file, then copy it to the folder for the TW app, make changes, then upload 
it back to GD (again, manually) and overwrite the existing version. There 
must be a better way? 

Currently I'm setting up an old Mac for a remote desktop access; this way I 
hope to run TW with Firefox and the plugin that will auto-save. This will 
still not solve the problem on my phone, but at least I could work with the 
file remotely without overwriting each time (I live in Chrome and I'm not 
going to install Firfox just for the plugin). Was wondering what are some 
of the solutions you came up with? 

Thanks! 

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[tw] Re: can't solve CSS problem with tag pill drop-down list

Hi again, Erwan,

Right now you can possibly
wrap the entire content of your *$:/core/ui/ListItemTemplate*
in a container element and override the styles starting with something like:

.tc-drop-down .my-container button,
.tc-drop-down .my-container a {
display: inline !important;
}

Best wishes,

Tobias.

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Re: [tw] Re: Square brackets, transclusion, and widget problem

Hi David,

I believe you can use my plugin tobibeer/setvars 
 to properly store a list 
item in a variable , 
e.g.

<$setvars _planet={{!!planet}} planet="planet[1]">
<$link to=<>><>


Best wishes,

Tobias.


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[tw] Re: [TW5] drop down list for book references requested

Hi Jon / Jed,

I believe there are two things being intermingled here:

   1. footnotes
   2. citations

While there are times we may want to use both together, they're two quite 
independent things.

   - 
*footnotes *create content within a document — in our case each tiddler is 
basically a "document" — and that content — while contained in the 
   document (but otherwise bloating the main document while reading) — is only 
   displayed at the very end of it (or when clicked => this part is actually 
   what the tobibeer/appear  is 
   indeed intended to be used for, but not quite for editing footnotes [yet] 
   ...which would only work if each footnote was actually a tiddler or at 
   least a "text reference" of its own rather than some part of the tiddler 
   we're looking at
   
   - 
*citations *allow to reference sources, ideally indeed contained in a 
   global dictionary of sources / references, not one per tiddler / document
   => there's only one bookshelf to refer to
   => you always want to use the same notation to refer to the same 
   publication / reference

So, when it comes to adding either of those to the document, we're doing 
two quite independent things:

   - *footnotes*
   define the content that will be taken out of context 
   and displayed elsewhere (at the bottom)
   => merely referenced at the place where inserted (perhaps displayable 
   via tooltip / popup)
   
   - *citations*
   ideally, we want to select from a list of predefined sources (perhaps 
   from a dictionary) and have the reference inserted
   => can be anywhere in the document, including footnotes
   => may link to some other tiddler or an external uri directly

Best wishes,

Tobias. 

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Re: [tw] Re: tiddler conditional style without tc-tagged?

2016-01-03 Thread Erwan




On 03/01/16 00:45, Eric Shulman wrote:

On Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 3:15:20 PM UTC-8, Erwan wrote:

I would like to apply some specific style rules to tiddlers which
satisfy a given condition (e.g. [has[my-field]]), and (to make things
harder) I would like to be able to use the "color" field of the
current
tiddler. For example, with the following CSS rules every tiddler
should
have a thick border colored according to its "color" field:


.tc-tiddler-frame {
   border-style: solid none none solid;
   border-width: 5px;
   border-color: {{!!color}};
}


Is this possible?


When the CSS content is evaluated, it isn't in the context of a 
specific tiddler, but rather, in the context of the stylesheet 
tiddler, so the reference to {{!!color}} would only pick up the color 
value from a field on the stylesheet tiddler itself (i.e., 
{{currentTiddler!!color}}.  In addition, the CSS rule for 
.tc-tiddler-frame is applied to all tiddlers, not just the current 
one.  That is why Jeremy automatically generates the 
".tc-tagged-SomeTag" class attributes for tiddlers.  It provides a way 
to differentiate between tiddlers so that CSS rules can be selectively 
applied simply by adding a tag.


Without using tagging, the problem is a bit more complicated.  You 
need to modify the core's ViewTemplate definition so that you can add 
your tiddler-specific custom classes to the tiddler frame directly. 
 Something like this:

|
\define frame-classes()
tc-tiddler-frame tc-tiddler-view-frame $(missingTiddlerClass)$ 
$(shadowTiddlerClass)$ $(systemTiddlerClass)$ $(tiddlerTagClasses)$ 
$(tiddlerCustomClass)$

\end
<$set name="storyTiddler"value=<>><$set 
name="tiddlerInfoState"value=<"$:/state/popup/tiddler-info">>><$tiddler tiddler=<>>

<$set name="tiddlerCustomClass"value={{!!class}}>
>><$list 
filter="[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[$:/tags/ViewTemplate]!has[draft.of]]"variable="listItem"><$transclude 
tiddler=<>/>





|

1) added <$set name="tiddlerCustomClass" ...> to fetch the value of 
the "class" field from the current tiddler

2) added $(tiddlerCustomClass)$ to frameclasses macro definition

With this in place, you can then apply custom CSS classes on a per 
tiddler basis simply by adding a "class" field to that tiddler.


enjoy,
-e




Hi Eric,

Thank you for your answer. I see now why this is tricky... Unfortunately 
I have two problems with your solution:


- As far as I understand, I still need to define my tiddler custom 
classes in a stylesheet tiddler, where I cannot use the tiddler-specific 
color, is that correct?


- when I tested this solution I found that modifying 
$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate apparently caused a bug in the navigation: when 
clicking on a link from the "open" or "recent" tab, the browser doesn't 
take me to the tiddler as it should. I tested with Firefox and Chrome on 
a TW version 5.1.8 (does that matter?).


Do you see something to do about that? if it's too complicated it's ok, 
I can probably live without my custom colored borders! ;-)


Cheers,
Erwan




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Re: [tw] Re: can't solve CSS problem with tag pill drop-down list

2016-01-03 Thread Erwan

Hi Tobias,

thank you, this takes me one step further... but there is still a
problem apparently, see tag pill in
http://esb-css-tag-pill.bitballoon.com/#2016-01-02-175058%20bug%3A%20line%20breaks%20around%20subtask%20button%20in%20tag%20pill%20drop%20down%20list

Do you know how to solve this? do you think maybe I'm stretching the use
of $:/core/ui/ListItemTemplate too much?

Cheers,
Erwan

On 03/01/16 16:36, Tobias Beer wrote:

Hi again, Erwan,

Right now you can possibly
wrap the entire content of your *$:/core/ui/ListItemTemplate*
in a container element and override the styles starting with something
like:

|
.tc-drop-down .my-container button,
.tc-drop-down .my-container a {
display:inline!important;
}
|

Best wishes,

Tobias.
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[tw] [TW5] Updated plugin: tobibeer/setvars — version 0.6.0

Hi everyone,

I just released version 0.6.0 
 of 
tobibeer/setvars .

Get the update from here:

http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#setvars

Release Notes:

   - fixed bug in *OR* logic
  - introduced with last version, sry
   - added bracketed *OR* argument
   - also allowing a shorthand for the *IF* clauses:
  (condition ? then) rather than:
  IF(condition ? then)
  - bracketed OR example:
  (condition ? then) || (this || \that\ [more])
   - allows (non-)equality checks in *IF* clause *condition*
   - here's an *if-else-if* construct comparing against first a literal and 
  then another attribute:
  (foo == \true\ ? this) || (foo == bar ? that)
   - added test edition
   - about time ;-)
   - docs improvements
   - added tobibeer/eval  
  example (using math.js)
  - improved / some more examples
   
Best wishes,

Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] drop down list for book references requested

Yes, for either option I mentioned there would be something like a 
dictionary tiddler that holds the citation information. The macro would be 
the footnote par The question is how the macro references the citations, 
either as 1, 2, 3 etc. (or whatever key is used) or as a placeholder for 
footnote 1 which is then set to the desired citation using a drop-down menu 
in view mode..

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[tw] Re: [TW5] drop down list for book references requested

I meant something like \cite{foo} in LaTeX. For the macro you would either 
put <> or <>. If you use <> than when you leave the editing view you can 
set which citation goes with footnote 1 and it will be displayed everywhere 
in your text you have <>. The first one is easy to make, the 
second may be a better option in terms of usefulness but it is harder to 
make.

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[tw] Re: Syncing solutions for Android

Hi

Not necessarily for your Android, but there's an auto saver for Chrome 
which works well -- go here 
.

regards

On Sunday, 3 January 2016 21:05:50 UTC+2, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> I'm new to TW.
>
> I was wondering how some of you solve the issue of syncing? I have an 
> Android phone, and I use Google Drive. I have to manually download the 
> file, then copy it to the folder for the TW app, make changes, then upload 
> it back to GD (again, manually) and overwrite the existing version. There 
> must be a better way? 
>
> Currently I'm setting up an old Mac for a remote desktop access; this way 
> I hope to run TW with Firefox and the plugin that will auto-save. This will 
> still not solve the problem on my phone, but at least I could work with the 
> file remotely without overwriting each time (I live in Chrome and I'm not 
> going to install Firfox just for the plugin). Was wondering what are some 
> of the solutions you came up with? 
>
> Thanks! 
>

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