[tw] Re: Giewiki. Import tiddlers?

2016-02-21 Thread Eric Shulman 
On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 7:03:22 PM UTC-8, Dan Leahu wrote:
>
> I've tried to import a tiddlywiki from GieWiki, but it says 0 tiddlers to 
> import.
> Tried with exported tiddlyspace file and also the empty.html file from the 
> distribution.
> Any idea why?
> Tried to use provided ImportTiddlers plugin, didn't work. Then tried to 
> paste the ImportTiddlers plugin from tiddlyspot.com, but didn't work 
> either - is there any alternative plugin?
>

GieWiki is based on:
var version = { title: "TiddlyWiki", major: 2, minor: 4, revision: 1, date: 
new Date("Aug 4, 2008"), extensions: {}}
 
The internal "storeArea" format used by TiddlyWiki has changed over the 
past 7 1/2 years, so the format being used by GieWiki is simply so 
out-of-date that it cannot be recognized by newer versions of either 
TiddlyWiki Classic or TiddlyWiki5.

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Re: [tw] Re: TWC: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services

2016-02-21 Thread Rowan Corbett 
Hey Måns,

Here's that example. I primarily use Chrome on Windows, but I can also 
confirm that it works in Internet Explorer and Safari on iPhone iOS 9.

http://vexrecurved.tiddlyspot.com/

Rowan

On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 4:36:32 AM UTC-5, Måns wrote:
>
> Hi Rowan
>
> >"Actually, Vextab is what I am most interested in. I've managed to get 
> it working by the same method used for Bopland."
>
> Great :-) 
>
> Does it work on Chrome too? (As I recall BJ's example only worked on FF)
> Would you mind sharing a working example on tiddlyspot?
>
> It would be great to have a music scratchpad in a TiddlyWIki again :-)
>
> At the moment I use MuseScore to create guitar tabs on a pc/mac. 
> I share interactive scores & videoscores on musescore.org.
> It also provides an option to embed scores online. I do this in a 
> TiddlyWiki.
> MuseScore can export to pdf, mp3's and images - so It is pretty straight 
> forward to have a collection of offline scores in a usable format. 
>  
> On mobile devices I use a musescore app to download, store, play and view 
> scores. 
> It is very stable and the workflow is seemless - all the way from creating 
> a score in the (free) MuseScore program on a pc/mac/linux box. Here you can 
> save a score directly to musescore.org. (up to 5 scores for free). 
>
> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>
> Btw. I'm not affiliated with MuseScore in any way - just a happy 
> user/customer :-)
>
> 2016-02-21 6:37 GMT+01:00 Rowan Corbett  >:
>
>> Hey Måns!
>>   Actually, Vextab is what I am most interested in. I've managed to get 
>> it working by the same method used for Bopland. My only problem now is that 
>> I can't use it without an Internet connection on my mobile devices.
>>  Is there a way to include Vextab within the tiddlywiki itself rather 
>> than linking to it?
>>
>> Rowan
>>
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[tw] Re: Giewiki. Import tiddlers?

2016-02-21 Thread Dan Leahu 
Hi

I've tried to import a tiddlywiki from GieWiki, but it says 0 tiddlers to 
import.
Tried with exported tiddlyspace file and also the empty.html file from the 
distribution.
Any idea why? also
Tried to use provided ImportTiddlers plugin, didn't work. Then tried to 
paste the ImportTiddlers plugin from tiddlyspot.com, but didn't work either 
- is there any alternative plugin?

Also, any plans for searching in lazy tiddlers, i.e with a rest service or 
similar?

Thank you
Dan

On Monday, February 13, 2012 at 11:10:42 AM UTC+1, Bauwe Bijl wrote:
>
> Hi 
>
> It _is_ possible to import in GieWiki. 
> But some server imports can give errors or do not match and import 
> fails. 
>
> What always works is uploading a local tw. 
> If importing fails ... collect your tiddlers local in a tw and upload 
> it to GieWiki. 
>
> Importing tiddlers from TiddlySpace also fails (but a TiddlySpace can 
> be downloaded too) 
> TiddlyCouch to GieWiki works fine. 
>
> Bauwe 
>
>
>
> On Feb 13, 7:01 am, passingby  wrote: 
> > Is it possible to import tiddlers (instead of copy pasting)  from a 
> > tiddlyspot instance into a giewiki instance on appspot.com?

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins within Plugins, Shadows within Shadows

2016-02-21 Thread Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ) 
In case anyone's curious, the short answer is:

*Plugins with plugins are problematic.*  A plugin embedded in another won't 
be loaded as a plugin and won't function as intended.  (Unless, of course, 
you open and save it after installing the parent plugin, "upgrading" the 
child plugin from shadow tiddler to a full-fledged tiddler.)

Also of note:

Tiddlers from the core are loaded before any user-created tiddlers 
(including those loaded from plugins), so you could indeed create a 
personal core of settings and core tiddler modifications or replacements 
that would override the default behaviors of a vanilla TiddlyWiki — as long 
as none of the tiddlers within that personal core were plugins themselves.

The $:/core itself has a plugin-priority field with a value set to 0.  At a 
glance, it looks like plugins with this value set are evaluated first, in 
ascending order of value, then plugins without a plugin-priority are 
evaluated.  So if you wanted to create a personal core to overwrite the TW 
core's functions without impacting any other plugins you might install, you 
should be able to do that by giving it a plugin-priority of 1.

A *better* solution than a personal core may be a personal plugin library — 
akin to what Jed and Tobias have created for their plugins.  In my case, 
I'd put the library online, and anyone who wanted to pull from it would be 
welcome to, but the real intent would be to make my customizations, 
settings and plugins available to *me*.  I'd create a small plugin pointing 
to my online plugin library; drag *that* into a new, empty TiddlyWiki; and 
then use it to import my collection of personal plugins (and other 
assorted, sundry tiddlers) from my online "TiddlyWarehouse."

—


Jeremy devoted some time to this notion (and the bigger, related notions of 
bundles and TWederation) in Hangout #98.

You can catch the relevant bits here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBQkNizqZIE=5717

... starting at 1:35:17 and continuing to 1:52:05.

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[tw] Re: Wünsche Unterrichtsverteilung BK nächstes Schuljahr

2016-02-21 Thread Eric Shulman 
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On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 3:49:31 PM UTC-8, Jan wrote:

> Hallo ihr Lieben, liebe Grit
>
... 

> Herzliche Grüße Jan
>

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[tw] Re: Wünsche Unterrichtsverteilung BK nächstes Schuljahr

2016-02-21 Thread Jan 

Hallo ihr Lieben, liebe Grit.
Danke dass du an mich gedacht hast. Ich hoffe euch allen geht es gut.
Ich komme am Freitag um +-12:00 vorbei und habe um 13:00 Uhr ein 
Gespräch mit Herrn Grübel. Da Azizah in einer Produktion steckt und ich 
die Kinder hüte, schaffe ich es leider nicht früher. Dann werde ich auch 
wissen, für wieviel Kunst/Medien ich mich eintragen sollte. Wenn es 
einen digitalen Zwischenentwurf mit euren Eintragungen gibt, wäre ich 
froh, diesen vorher zu haben, ansonsten würde ich mich Live eintragen.


Herzliche Grüße Jan


Am 15.02.2016 um 00:06 schrieb Grit Jerxsen:

Hallo ihr Lieben,
ich habe alle, die in Frage kommen könnten mit dieser mail bedacht, 
obwohl ich nicht weiß, ob und mit wie viel Prozent ihr im nächsten 
Schuljahr zur Verfügung stehen werdet.


Diese Wunschliste zur Unterrichtsverteilung lege ich morgen im 
Vorbereitungsraum Kunst aus, bitte tragt Euch ein.


Ich habe bereits mein Kürzel bei den Klassen eingefügt, die ich im 
nächsten Jahr übernehmen möchte . Das sind in meinem Fall alle 
Klassen, die ich auch jetzt habe und die dann ein Jahr weiter sind.


Das kann aber jeder für sich entscheiden. Ihr könnt euch auch doppelt 
eintragen. Es kann später im Gespräch der interessierten Kollegen oder 
durch Herrn Grübel entschieden werden, wer letztendlich Fachlehrer in 
begehrten Klassen wird.


Ich weiß auch noch nicht, wie viele 5te Klassen bzw. Oberstufenprofile 
entstehen werden. Auch in den anderen Jahrgängen ist die Anzahl der 
Kurse evtl zu hoch.


Ich hoffe, die Tabelle ist zu verstehen. Man sieht die Lehrerbesetzung 
in diesem und den vergangenen Jahren (Tabellenkopf) und die 
Klassennamen (1. Spalte) für das entsprechende Jahr. So kann man auch 
sehen, wie viele Lehrerwechsel eine Klasse hatte und wer vorher 
Fachlehrer war. Dazu muss man allerdings diagonal von links oben nach 
rechts unten lesen. Ich habe dies mal am Beispiel der aktuellen 8b 
gekennzeichnet. Ihr seht, dass sie jedes Jahr mindestens einen neuen 
Fachlehrer hatte. Bitte versucht euch so einzutragen, dass eine 
gewisse Kontinuität gesichert ist.


Ihr könnt euch auch digital eintragen und mir zusenden, ich übertage 
alles imn die ausgelegte Liste im Vorbereitungsraum.


Liebe Grüße Grit


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Re: [tw] Re: TWC: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services

2016-02-21 Thread BJ 


On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 9:07:01 PM UTC, Måns wrote:
>
> Ah - sorry BJ. I mixed things up.. I was actually referring to your abc 
> example/prrof of concept, when I asked if Rowan's Vextab macro works on 
> Chrome...
>
> Do you say it is ok to create/publish a plugin which excludes the lib, 
> which has to be downloaded and added to TW by the end user - to make it 
> work offline? ( - not to conflict with the different licenses)
>
 
I think thats the way it works, the license is about re-distributing the 
lib (as well as usage in this case). 
 

> If I was the end user of the lib, a VexTab plugin (and TW of course) - 
> would the differences in licenses prevent me from publishing my personal TW 
> to the public? 
>
 
It would be the user (you in this case) who would have to comply with any 
restrictions of the license. If I remember correctly you would be able to 
use the license for non-commercial use. As you do want to be 
re-distributing the source it would be better to keep the lib as a separate 
file. 

>
> Abc looks promising even though it doesn't seem to be browser agnostic.
>
 
I think ABc works with chrome - its only my demo that's agnostic as chrome 
doesn't like html pages to download libs from github - as I do in this 
demo. 

>
> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>
> 2016-02-21 12:45 GMT+01:00 BJ :
>
>> http://abcmusic.tiddlyspot.com/rHI folks,
>>
>> As can be seen from posts earlier in this thread, the license for vextab 
>> stops us from including it as a plugin. Having said that, there is nothing 
>> stop the writing of a plugin that interfaces to it and requiring the user 
>> to download the lib.  
>>
>> One alternative is the ABC system, which I made a proof of concept demo 
>> here:
>>
>> http://abcmusic.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> there is a thread about it here:
>>
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/e3a8a3d1-29eb-4ec7-84a4-57b491487d12%40googlegroups.com
>>  
>> 
>>
>> all the best
>> BJ
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 9:36:32 AM UTC, Måns wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Rowan
>>>
>>> >"Actually, Vextab is what I am most interested in. I've managed to get 
>>> it working by the same method used for Bopland."
>>>
>>> Great :-) 
>>>
>>> Does it work on Chrome too? (As I recall BJ's example only worked on FF)
>>> Would you mind sharing a working example on tiddlyspot?
>>>
>>> It would be great to have a music scratchpad in a TiddlyWIki again :-)
>>>
>>> At the moment I use MuseScore to create guitar tabs on a pc/mac. 
>>> I share interactive scores & videoscores on musescore.org.
>>> It also provides an option to embed scores online. I do this in a 
>>> TiddlyWiki.
>>> MuseScore can export to pdf, mp3's and images - so It is pretty straight 
>>> forward to have a collection of offline scores in a usable format. 
>>>  
>>> On mobile devices I use a musescore app to download, store, play and 
>>> view scores. 
>>> It is very stable and the workflow is seemless - all the way from 
>>> creating a score in the (free) MuseScore program on a pc/mac/linux box. 
>>> Here you can save a score directly to musescore.org. (up to 5 scores 
>>> for free). 
>>>
>>> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>>>
>>> Btw. I'm not affiliated with MuseScore in any way - just a happy 
>>> user/customer :-)
>>>
>>> 2016-02-21 6:37 GMT+01:00 Rowan Corbett :
>>>
 Hey Måns!
   Actually, Vextab is what I am most interested in. I've managed to get 
 it working by the same method used for Bopland. My only problem now is 
 that 
 I can't use it without an Internet connection on my mobile devices.
  Is there a way to include Vextab within the tiddlywiki itself rather 
 than linking to it?

 Rowan

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Re: [tw] Re: TWC: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services

2016-02-21 Thread Måns Mårtensson 
Ah - sorry BJ. I mixed things up.. I was actually referring to your abc
example/prrof of concept, when I asked if Rowan's Vextab macro works on
Chrome...

Do you say it is ok to create/publish a plugin which excludes the lib,
which has to be downloaded and added to TW by the end user - to make it
work offline? ( - not to conflict with the different licenses)

If I was the end user of the lib, a VexTab plugin (and TW of course) -
would the differences in licenses prevent me from publishing my personal TW
to the public?

Abc looks promising even though it doesn't seem to be browser agnostic.

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

2016-02-21 12:45 GMT+01:00 BJ :

> http://abcmusic.tiddlyspot.com/rHI folks,
>
> As can be seen from posts earlier in this thread, the license for vextab
> stops us from including it as a plugin. Having said that, there is nothing
> stop the writing of a plugin that interfaces to it and requiring the user
> to download the lib.
>
> One alternative is the ABC system, which I made a proof of concept demo
> here:
>
> http://abcmusic.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> there is a thread about it here:
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/e3a8a3d1-29eb-4ec7-84a4-57b491487d12%40googlegroups.com
> 
>
> all the best
> BJ
>
>
> On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 9:36:32 AM UTC, Måns wrote:
>>
>> Hi Rowan
>>
>> >"Actually, Vextab is what I am most interested in. I've managed to get
>> it working by the same method used for Bopland."
>>
>> Great :-)
>>
>> Does it work on Chrome too? (As I recall BJ's example only worked on FF)
>> Would you mind sharing a working example on tiddlyspot?
>>
>> It would be great to have a music scratchpad in a TiddlyWIki again :-)
>>
>> At the moment I use MuseScore to create guitar tabs on a pc/mac.
>> I share interactive scores & videoscores on musescore.org.
>> It also provides an option to embed scores online. I do this in a
>> TiddlyWiki.
>> MuseScore can export to pdf, mp3's and images - so It is pretty straight
>> forward to have a collection of offline scores in a usable format.
>>
>> On mobile devices I use a musescore app to download, store, play and view
>> scores.
>> It is very stable and the workflow is seemless - all the way from
>> creating a score in the (free) MuseScore program on a pc/mac/linux box.
>> Here you can save a score directly to musescore.org. (up to 5 scores for
>> free).
>>
>> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>>
>> Btw. I'm not affiliated with MuseScore in any way - just a happy
>> user/customer :-)
>>
>> 2016-02-21 6:37 GMT+01:00 Rowan Corbett :
>>
>>> Hey Måns!
>>>   Actually, Vextab is what I am most interested in. I've managed to get
>>> it working by the same method used for Bopland. My only problem now is that
>>> I can't use it without an Internet connection on my mobile devices.
>>>  Is there a way to include Vextab within the tiddlywiki itself rather
>>> than linking to it?
>>>
>>> Rowan
>>>
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Re: [tw] [tw5] Introducing "Internals" plugin for exploring TW5

2016-02-21 Thread Brian Theado 
Arlen,

On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Arlen Beiler  wrote:
> It would include all dynamic inclusions using a list on a tag, right? My,
> I'm really like this idea. This is going to make everything so much easier
> if we had a way to easily inspect TiddlyWiki internals!

Yes, the widget view Jeremy already implemented shows such dynamic
inclusions. I envision a transclusion view would do the same.

Brian

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[tw] Re: Image annotating

2016-02-21 Thread Eric Shulman 
On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 6:02:21 AM UTC-8, andrew levy wrote:
>
> I saw in a video Jeremy annotating/scribbling over the top of an image 
> inside a tiddler. How do you do this? Is it an inbuilt function or does it 
> require a plugin?
>

It's built-in, and works for bitmap images (jpg, png, gif).  Try this:

* Go to http://tiddlywiki.com/#Motovun%20Jack.jpg
* Edit the tiddler
* Move the mouse over the image, note the cursor changes to a crosshair
* Click and drag to scribble.
* Whee!

enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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[tw] Image annotating

2016-02-21 Thread andrew levy 
I saw in a video Jeremy annotating/scribbling over the top of an image 
inside a tiddler. How do you do this? Is it an inbuilt function or does it 
require a plugin?

thanks

andrew

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[tw] Re: transclude tag

2016-02-21 Thread Tobias Beer 
Hi Andrew,

You need to use a template, for example, the inner content of a list widget:

<$list filter="[tag[Widgets]sort[title]]">
<$link><$view field="title"/>
<$transclude mode="block"/>


Best wishes,

Tobias. 

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[tw] Re: portable TW5 installation

2016-02-21 Thread Tobias Beer 
Hi Simon,

You may also be interested in Twexe 

:

https://ihm4u.github.io/twexe 

Best wishes,

Tobias.

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[tw] transclude tag

2016-02-21 Thread andrew levy 
how do i transclude all tiddlers with a certain tag

I was thinking something along the lines of 



{{[tag[SPMLecture1]]}}


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Re: [tw] Re: TWC: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services

2016-02-21 Thread BJ 
http://abcmusic.tiddlyspot.com/rHI folks,

As can be seen from posts earlier in this thread, the license for vextab 
stops us from including it as a plugin. Having said that, there is nothing 
stop the writing of a plugin that interfaces to it and requiring the user 
to download the lib.  

One alternative is the ABC system, which I made a proof of concept demo 
here:

http://abcmusic.tiddlyspot.com/

there is a thread about it here:

https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/e3a8a3d1-29eb-4ec7-84a4-57b491487d12%40googlegroups.com
 


all the best
BJ


On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 9:36:32 AM UTC, Måns wrote:
>
> Hi Rowan
>
> >"Actually, Vextab is what I am most interested in. I've managed to get 
> it working by the same method used for Bopland."
>
> Great :-) 
>
> Does it work on Chrome too? (As I recall BJ's example only worked on FF)
> Would you mind sharing a working example on tiddlyspot?
>
> It would be great to have a music scratchpad in a TiddlyWIki again :-)
>
> At the moment I use MuseScore to create guitar tabs on a pc/mac. 
> I share interactive scores & videoscores on musescore.org.
> It also provides an option to embed scores online. I do this in a 
> TiddlyWiki.
> MuseScore can export to pdf, mp3's and images - so It is pretty straight 
> forward to have a collection of offline scores in a usable format. 
>  
> On mobile devices I use a musescore app to download, store, play and view 
> scores. 
> It is very stable and the workflow is seemless - all the way from creating 
> a score in the (free) MuseScore program on a pc/mac/linux box. Here you can 
> save a score directly to musescore.org. (up to 5 scores for free). 
>
> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>
> Btw. I'm not affiliated with MuseScore in any way - just a happy 
> user/customer :-)
>
> 2016-02-21 6:37 GMT+01:00 Rowan Corbett  >:
>
>> Hey Måns!
>>   Actually, Vextab is what I am most interested in. I've managed to get 
>> it working by the same method used for Bopland. My only problem now is that 
>> I can't use it without an Internet connection on my mobile devices.
>>  Is there a way to include Vextab within the tiddlywiki itself rather 
>> than linking to it?
>>
>> Rowan
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Re: [tw] Re: TWC: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services

2016-02-21 Thread Måns Mårtensson 
Hi Rowan

>"Actually, Vextab is what I am most interested in. I've managed to get it
working by the same method used for Bopland."

Great :-)

Does it work on Chrome too? (As I recall BJ's example only worked on FF)
Would you mind sharing a working example on tiddlyspot?

It would be great to have a music scratchpad in a TiddlyWIki again :-)

At the moment I use MuseScore to create guitar tabs on a pc/mac.
I share interactive scores & videoscores on musescore.org.
It also provides an option to embed scores online. I do this in a
TiddlyWiki.
MuseScore can export to pdf, mp3's and images - so It is pretty straight
forward to have a collection of offline scores in a usable format.

On mobile devices I use a musescore app to download, store, play and view
scores.
It is very stable and the workflow is seemless - all the way from creating
a score in the (free) MuseScore program on a pc/mac/linux box. Here you can
save a score directly to musescore.org. (up to 5 scores for free).

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

Btw. I'm not affiliated with MuseScore in any way - just a happy
user/customer :-)

2016-02-21 6:37 GMT+01:00 Rowan Corbett :

> Hey Måns!
>   Actually, Vextab is what I am most interested in. I've managed to get it
> working by the same method used for Bopland. My only problem now is that I
> can't use it without an Internet connection on my mobile devices.
>  Is there a way to include Vextab within the tiddlywiki itself rather than
> linking to it?
>
> Rowan
>
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