[tw] Re: [TW5] Get list of descendants by recursively assembling filter?

2016-05-05 Thread Majid al-Dosari
these kinds of things are now pretty much solved with the wikify 
widget https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2337

I fired up my tw from source and i now can construct recursive macros to 
generate filters and then have their output (through a wikify) go in a 
filter attribute of whatever widget that uses it.


On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 3:57:31 PM UTC-4, Linus Johnsson wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> I am working on a project in which I need to be able to get a list of a 
> tiddler's descendants. I use tags to define the relationship in question. 
> To be precise, B is a descendant of A if A=B or B is tagged with a 
> descendant of A.
>
> The list should be equal to what you get if you evaluate a filter that 
> goes something like this:
>
> [all[current]tag[concept]] [all[current]tag[concept]tagging[]tag[concept]] 
> [all[current]tag[concept]tagging[]tag[concept]tagging[]tag[concept]] ...
>
> The problem is of course that my current solution does not allow for 
> arbitrary depth of search, which is what I want.
>
> I have been trying to wrap my head around this problem and still can't 
> judge whether or not it's possible to do this without resorting to 
> JavaScript. If it is, I would be overjoyed if anyone would point me in the 
> right direction. If it isn't, I would appreciate help even more since I am 
> not (yet) proficient in JavaScript.
>
>
> Many thanks in advance,
> Linus
>

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RE: [tw] Re: Some Plugins for the new Editor Toolbar

2016-05-05 Thread infurnoape


Ctrl-z doesn't work from my mobile phone.


Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5

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From: proge...@assays.tv 
Date: 5/5/16  10:37 AM  (GMT-07:00) 
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Subject: [tw] Re: Some Plugins for the new Editor Toolbar 

TiddlyWiker

Just an FYI pending better solutions ...

So long as you do NOT navigate away from being in the editor (i.e. a 
"textarea") you CAN undo some previous edits in steps via the standrad undo 
"Ctrl+Z" (in latest Firefox on a PC.) 
Its not the best, but it works. It did it for me.

Josiah

 
I would like to request a plugin for an undo function for the editor toolbar.

regards 




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[tw] Re: [tw5] Final tests for 5.1.12 before release

2016-05-05 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I noticed that if you use the macro for excision, that the "transcluded" 
text does not include images and leaves out formatting. If you do a plain 
transclusion with curly brackets, it does include images. It seems to me 
that the macro should do a real transclusion so you you can see what you're 
actually getting.

After some more experimentation, I see that the problem may be the 
<$transclusion> widget -- it doesn't include images or formatting either. 
On the other hand, changing the macro to use curly brackets doesn't bring 
back the formatting, and everything is displayed in inline mode. So it will 
take more than one tweak to get right.

Thanks,
Mark

On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 5:14:24 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Now that the editor toolbar work is completed, I’d like to release 
> TiddlyWiki 5.1.12 in the next couple of days. I’d be very grateful for help 
> with testing this release; there are a lot of changes this time around 
> which brings a potential for things to go wrong. 
>
> There’s a prerelease available for testing: 
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease 
>
> Please give it a try - be cautious about your personal data, and take 
> careful backups. Perform a test upgrade of your wikis and check for any 
> problems: 
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/upgrade.html 
>
> Please let me know if you spot any issues. This is a great time to submit 
> documentation updates but I’m afraid its too late for any further 
> functional changes. In particular if you have published TiddlyWiki 
> resources that are not currently linked from 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease do please consider submitting a pull 
> request. 
>
> Best wishes 
>
> Jeremy

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Re: [tw] Re: Colour Pallete Options

2016-05-05 Thread Marc Ferguson
Agreed. In schools teachers use simple transparent plastic over book pages to 
help students. On the computer it is all about "cool themes."

I think that simple pleasant by high contrast background colors and black 
background would be sufficient. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 5, 2016, at 12:29 PM, proge...@assays.tv wrote:
> 
> Marc & others
> 
> TBH Color Palettes, however good the tech, are difficult to get right.
> 
> Its as much a visual design issue as having a palette selector. In fact 
> palette access to zillions of colors can make websites awful as users select 
> one-by-one, rather than by interactive visual harmony.
> 
> Really for user based stabs in the dark its an interactive system that is 
> needed so you can see the effect whilst choosing.
> 
> My 2 cents.
> 
> Josiah
> 
>> On Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:10:07 UTC+2, Marc wrote:
>> Interesting fact--finding a student's background color can help some 
>> students comprehend better and faster. 
>> 
>> It has to do with what side of the brain information comes into the brain. 
>> 
>> It really helped my son who had leading problems. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 5, 2016, at 7:47 AM, Ste Wilson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thats the ticket!  Thanks.
>>> 
 On Wednesday, 4 May 2016 20:49:24 UTC+1, c pa wrote:
 Stephen,
 
 
 [[ControlPanel]]
 Select the tab Appearance
 Select the tab Pallette
 
 Click on the pallettes in turn until you have the background etc. you want
 
 If you want to add a new pallette In the right side Click on "More / 
 Shadows"
 
 Search for $:/palettes
 
 Clone one of those palettes, give it a new name, and edit the colors
 Make sure to edit the "name" field in the cloned tiddler. That is the name 
 that shows up on the palettes list
 Then that choice will be in the list of palettes
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[tw] Re: [NOOB] Transclusion, Templates, Filters and Tags vs Fields

2016-05-05 Thread wolfsong
I forgot to mention TW5.

On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 1:18:56 PM UTC-5, wolfsong wrote:
>
> I'm looking through the documentation and trying to grasp a few concepts 
> but I think I need more information.
>
> I want to setup a knowledge base with articles on a variety of subjects. 
> I'd like to put together a template for each type of article. Each article 
> will have subsections with information that might appear in different types 
> of articles. This way, as content needs to be updated, I can update the 
> relevant tiddler and have the corresponding articles be current. It seems 
> like TiddlyWiki is built around this very idea. Where I'm stumbling though 
> is how to approach the process.
>
>- Do I create the subsections first and pull them together with a 
>template or create a template that creates the necessary subsections?
>- How do I link the subsections back to the article? Should I use a 
>tag or a custom field (I'm entirely unclear on the advantages of using one 
>versus the other)?
>- Are the some examples that are easy to follow? What I'm finding on 
>the main website seems lite and what I'm finding in the community examples 
>has elements that I can't figure out what's being done.
>
> One other thing, because the articles will be lengthy in some cases, I'd 
> love to take advantage of having the subsections appear as tabs.
>
> Any guidance would really be appreciated. Thanks.
>
> Cristov
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Colour Pallete Options

2016-05-05 Thread progetti
Marc & others

TBH Color Palettes, however good the tech, are difficult to get right.

Its as much a visual design issue as having a palette selector. In fact 
palette access to zillions of colors can make websites awful as users 
select one-by-one, rather than by interactive visual harmony.

Really for user based stabs in the dark its an interactive system that is 
needed so you can see the effect whilst choosing.

My 2 cents.

Josiah

On Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:10:07 UTC+2, Marc wrote:
>
> Interesting fact--finding a student's background color can help some 
> students comprehend better and faster. 
>
> It has to do with what side of the brain information comes into the brain. 
>
> It really helped my son who had leading problems. 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 5, 2016, at 7:47 AM, Ste Wilson  
> wrote:
>
> Thats the ticket!  Thanks.
>
> On Wednesday, 4 May 2016 20:49:24 UTC+1, c pa wrote:
>>
>> Stephen,
>>
>>
>> [[ControlPanel]]
>> Select the tab Appearance
>> Select the tab Pallette
>>
>> Click on the pallettes in turn until you have the background etc. you want
>>
>> If you want to add a new pallette In the right side Click on "More / 
>> Shadows"
>>
>> Search for $:/palettes 
>> 
>>
>> Clone one of those palettes, give it a new name, and edit the colors
>> Make sure to edit the "name" field in the cloned tiddler. That is the 
>> name that shows up on the palettes list
>> Then that choice will be in the list of palettes 
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[tw] [NOOB] Transclusion, Templates, Filters and Tags vs Fields

2016-05-05 Thread wolfsong
I'm looking through the documentation and trying to grasp a few concepts 
but I think I need more information.

I want to setup a knowledge base with articles on a variety of subjects. 
I'd like to put together a template for each type of article. Each article 
will have subsections with information that might appear in different types 
of articles. This way, as content needs to be updated, I can update the 
relevant tiddler and have the corresponding articles be current. It seems 
like TiddlyWiki is built around this very idea. Where I'm stumbling though 
is how to approach the process.

   - Do I create the subsections first and pull them together with a 
   template or create a template that creates the necessary subsections?
   - How do I link the subsections back to the article? Should I use a tag 
   or a custom field (I'm entirely unclear on the advantages of using one 
   versus the other)?
   - Are the some examples that are easy to follow? What I'm finding on the 
   main website seems lite and what I'm finding in the community examples has 
   elements that I can't figure out what's being done.

One other thing, because the articles will be lengthy in some cases, I'd 
love to take advantage of having the subsections appear as tabs.

Any guidance would really be appreciated. Thanks.

Cristov

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Re: [tw] [TW5] plugin filter historylist (breadcrumbs, trail, recently visited)

2016-05-05 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi WiM

That’s great, very useful. I notice that the wiki is still on 5.1.9; it 
probably doesn’t affect the plugins operation, but I wondered if you might be 
able to upgrade it so that users can be confident that it works with the latest 
version.

Many thanks

Jeremy.


> On 5 May 2016, at 13:25, wimm  wrote:
> 
> new feature
> 
> This plugin/filter generates the tiddlers which you already visited since 
> loading this or your TiddlyWiki.
> 
> Compared to Open tab : When you close a tiddler, the title is still visible 
> in the History Tab.
> 
> Compared to Recent tab, the list includes modified tiddler, but also all 
> visited tiddlers. When you delete a tiddler during your session the tiddler 
> will be in italics like TiddlerDoesNotExistAnyMore 
> .
> 
> 
> 
> internals
> 
> It scans the $:/HistoryList 
>  for the "title:" 
> field and generates the the titles as links.
> 
> Most recently visited Tiddler appear first.
> Draft Tiddlers are skipped.
> If a tiddler title is present multiple times in the $:/HistoryList 
>  then only the most 
> recent one is part of the result.
> usage
> 
> to display all visited tiddlers so far
> 
> {{{ [history[]] }}}
> 
> 
> 
> Like all filters you can search the tiddlers and limit the number of results. 
> There is as far as I know only one tiny bug, to maximize the number of 
> entries to 5 you need to specify 6 (one higher). So if you want to show max 
> the last 25 visited tiddlers which contain the string from the searchfield:
> 
> {{{ [history[]search{$:/temp/search}limit[26]] }}}
> 
> 
> 
> Similar for the advancedSearch tiddler you can use:
> 
> {{{ [history[]search{$:/temp/advancedsearch}limit[26]] }}}
> 
> 
> 
> try and download
> 
> 
>  http://tw5quickref.tiddlyspot.com/ 
> 
> Let me know if you like it ;-)
> 
> KR
> WiM
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Re: [tw] Some Plugins for the new Editor Toolbar

2016-05-05 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Stephen

Congratulations, these are great enhancements, and very well packaged and 
presented. Really excellent stuff. I’ve added a link for 5.1.12:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/d1642da2a9114cd171543d73a1e879354b2a4258

Best wishes

Jeremy.


> On 5 May 2016, at 13:48, 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki 
>  wrote:
> 
> In keeping with the general spirit of the TiddlyWiki community, ie, you 
> develop something useful and/or potentially interesting you share it with 
> others, I'm sharing some of the plugins I've developed to go with the new 
> Editor Toolbar. You'll find them and a more extensive discussion of what each 
> does at http://skplugins.tiddlyspot.com/ 
> 
> I start developing these functions when I was working on my own toolbar and 
> many of them I've been using for quite some time. Even so, you should use 
> them with caution. As the developer, there is always the risk that I simply 
> avoid the traps and pitfalls and am simply blind to some bugs. Accordingly, 
> please let me know if you find something or have suggestions for 
> improvements. I've tried all of them with various TW 5.12 preleases and so 
> far they seem to be working well.
> 
> The plug-ins related to the Editor Toolbar include:
> TableHelper - Converts blocks of comma separated or tab separated data into 
> TiddlyWiki Tables
> TableCols - Adjusts the alignment of a user specified column to Centered, 
> Left or Right justified as well as adding or deleting columns
> FindReplace - Adds Find and Replace capability to the Editor.
> Transclude - Marks a text selection as a transclusion
> Links - Marks a text selection as a link
> Indent - Indents a selected block of text
> BalanceCheck - detects and locates mis-matched parenthesis, braces, brackets 
> and TiddlyWiki formatting marks
> Fancy Quotes - Changes the typography of a text selection to standard 
> typgraphic marks
> Color - Adds text color or background highlighting color to a specified block 
> of text
> Email Convert - Revises blocks of text to change characters that would be 
> misinterpreted by TiddlyWiki such as > and < to their html equivalents. Also 
> adds spacing and converts bullets to TiddlyWiki equivalents.
> HTML Convert - Converts an imported to the TiddlyWiki equivalent.
> Plug-ins not directly related to the Editor Toolbar:
> 
> SidebarHelp - Adds a tab to the sidebar area where help tiddlers can be 
> displayed.
> WhiteList - Allows a user selected group of words that TiddlyWiki would 
> normally treat as CamelCase words that will be considered ordinary words.
> MathCell - Allows math operations within tiddlers
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[tw] Re: Some Plugins for the new Editor Toolbar

2016-05-05 Thread progetti
TiddlyWiker

Just an FYI pending better solutions ...

So long as you do NOT navigate away from being in the editor (i.e. a 
"textarea") you CAN undo some previous edits in steps via the standrad undo 
"Ctrl+Z" (in latest Firefox on a PC.) 
Its not the best, but it works. It did it for me.

Josiah

 
>
>> I would like to request a plugin for an undo function for the editor 
>> toolbar.
>>
>
> regards 
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Colour Pallete Options

2016-05-05 Thread Marc Ferguson
Interesting fact--finding a student's background color can help some students 
comprehend better and faster. 

It has to do with what side of the brain information comes into the brain. 

It really helped my son who had leading problems. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 5, 2016, at 7:47 AM, Ste Wilson  wrote:
> 
> Thats the ticket!  Thanks.
> 
>> On Wednesday, 4 May 2016 20:49:24 UTC+1, c pa wrote:
>> Stephen,
>> 
>> 
>> [[ControlPanel]]
>> Select the tab Appearance
>> Select the tab Pallette
>> 
>> Click on the pallettes in turn until you have the background etc. you want
>> 
>> If you want to add a new pallette In the right side Click on "More / Shadows"
>> 
>> Search for $:/palettes
>> 
>> Clone one of those palettes, give it a new name, and edit the colors
>> Make sure to edit the "name" field in the cloned tiddler. That is the name 
>> that shows up on the palettes list
>> Then that choice will be in the list of palettes
> 
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[tw] Re: Colour Pallete Options

2016-05-05 Thread Ste Wilson
Thats the ticket!  Thanks.

On Wednesday, 4 May 2016 20:49:24 UTC+1, c pa wrote:
>
> Stephen,
>
>
> [[ControlPanel]]
> Select the tab Appearance
> Select the tab Pallette
>
> Click on the pallettes in turn until you have the background etc. you want
>
> If you want to add a new pallette In the right side Click on "More / 
> Shadows"
>
> Search for $:/palettes 
>
> Clone one of those palettes, give it a new name, and edit the colors
> Make sure to edit the "name" field in the cloned tiddler. That is the name 
> that shows up on the palettes list
> Then that choice will be in the list of palettes 
>
>
>
>
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[tw] Re: Some Plugins for the new Editor Toolbar

2016-05-05 Thread TiddlyWiker


On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 2:48:36 PM UTC+2, Stephen Kimmel wrote:
>
> In keeping with the general spirit of the TiddlyWiki community, ie, you 
> develop something useful and/or potentially interesting you share it with 
> others, I'm sharing some of the plugins I've developed to go with the new 
> Editor Toolbar. You'll find them and a more extensive discussion of what 
> each does at http://skplugins.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>
> I start developing these functions when I was working on my own toolbar 
> and many of them I've been using for quite some time. Even so, you should 
> use them with caution. As the developer, there is always the risk that I 
> simply avoid the traps and pitfalls and am simply blind to some bugs. 
> Accordingly, please let me know if you find something or have suggestions 
> for improvements. I've tried all of them with various TW 5.12 preleases and 
> so far they seem to be working well.
>
> The plug-ins related to the Editor Toolbar include:
>
>1. TableHelper - Converts blocks of comma separated or tab separated 
>data into TiddlyWiki Tables
>2. TableCols - Adjusts the alignment of a user specified column to 
>Centered, Left or Right justified as well as adding or deleting columns
>3. FindReplace - Adds Find and Replace capability to the Editor.
>4. Transclude - Marks a text selection as a transclusion
>5. Links - Marks a text selection as a link
>6. Indent - Indents a selected block of text
>7. BalanceCheck - detects and locates mis-matched parenthesis, braces, 
>brackets and TiddlyWiki formatting marks
>8. Fancy Quotes - Changes the typography of a text selection to 
>standard typgraphic marks
>9. Color - Adds text color or background highlighting color to a 
>specified block of text
>10. Email Convert - Revises blocks of text to change characters that 
>would be misinterpreted by TiddlyWiki such as > and < to their html 
>equivalents. Also adds spacing and converts bullets to TiddlyWiki 
>equivalents.
>11. HTML Convert - Converts an imported to the TiddlyWiki equivalent.
>
> Plug-ins not directly related to the Editor Toolbar:
>
>1. SidebarHelp - Adds a tab to the sidebar area where help tiddlers 
>can be displayed.
>2. WhiteList - Allows a user selected group of words that TiddlyWiki 
>would normally treat as CamelCase words that will be considered ordinary 
>words.
>3. MathCell - Allows math operations within tiddlers
>
> TiddlyWiker
 

> I would like to request a plugin for an undo function for the editor 
> toolbar.
>

regards 

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[tw] Some Plugins for the new Editor Toolbar

2016-05-05 Thread 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki
In keeping with the general spirit of the TiddlyWiki community, ie, you 
develop something useful and/or potentially interesting you share it with 
others, I'm sharing some of the plugins I've developed to go with the new 
Editor Toolbar. You'll find them and a more extensive discussion of what 
each does at http://skplugins.tiddlyspot.com/ 

I start developing these functions when I was working on my own toolbar and 
many of them I've been using for quite some time. Even so, you should use 
them with caution. As the developer, there is always the risk that I simply 
avoid the traps and pitfalls and am simply blind to some bugs. Accordingly, 
please let me know if you find something or have suggestions for 
improvements. I've tried all of them with various TW 5.12 preleases and so 
far they seem to be working well.

The plug-ins related to the Editor Toolbar include:

   1. TableHelper - Converts blocks of comma separated or tab separated 
   data into TiddlyWiki Tables
   2. TableCols - Adjusts the alignment of a user specified column to 
   Centered, Left or Right justified as well as adding or deleting columns
   3. FindReplace - Adds Find and Replace capability to the Editor.
   4. Transclude - Marks a text selection as a transclusion
   5. Links - Marks a text selection as a link
   6. Indent - Indents a selected block of text
   7. BalanceCheck - detects and locates mis-matched parenthesis, braces, 
   brackets and TiddlyWiki formatting marks
   8. Fancy Quotes - Changes the typography of a text selection to standard 
   typgraphic marks
   9. Color - Adds text color or background highlighting color to a 
   specified block of text
   10. Email Convert - Revises blocks of text to change characters that 
   would be misinterpreted by TiddlyWiki such as > and < to their html 
   equivalents. Also adds spacing and converts bullets to TiddlyWiki 
   equivalents.
   11. HTML Convert - Converts an imported to the TiddlyWiki equivalent.

Plug-ins not directly related to the Editor Toolbar:
   
   1. SidebarHelp - Adds a tab to the sidebar area where help tiddlers can 
   be displayed.
   2. WhiteList - Allows a user selected group of words that TiddlyWiki 
   would normally treat as CamelCase words that will be considered ordinary 
   words.
   3. MathCell - Allows math operations within tiddlers


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[tw] [TW5] plugin filter historylist (breadcrumbs, trail, recently visited)

2016-05-05 Thread wimm
*new feature*

This plugin/filter generates the tiddlers which you already *visited* since 
loading this or your TiddlyWiki.

Compared to Open tab : When you close a tiddler, the title is still visible 
in the History Tab.

Compared to Recent tab, the list includes modified tiddler, but also all 
visited tiddlers. When you delete a tiddler during your session the tiddler 
will be in *italics* like TiddlerDoesNotExistAnyMore 
.

*internals*

It scans the $:/HistoryList 
 for the "title:" 
field and generates the the titles as links.

   - Most recently visited Tiddler appear first.
   - Draft Tiddlers are skipped.
   - If a tiddler title is present multiple times in the $:/HistoryList 
    then only the 
   most recent one is part of the result.

*usage*

to display all visited tiddlers so far

{{{ [history[]] }}}


Like all filters you can search the tiddlers and limit the number of 
results. There is as far as I know only one tiny bug, to maximize the 
number of entries to 5 you need to specify 6 (one higher). So if you want 
to show max the last 25 visited tiddlers which contain the string from the 
searchfield:

{{{ [history[]search{$:/temp/search}limit[26]] }}}


Similar for the advancedSearch tiddler you can use:

{{{ [history[]search{$:/temp/advancedsearch}limit[26]] }}}


*try and download*

 http://tw5quickref.tiddlyspot.com/

Let me know if you like it ;-)

KR
WiM

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[tw] Re: Planning a TiddlyWiki Meetup in 2016

2016-05-05 Thread Jed Carty
I should be able to make it either day. 

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