Re: [tw] Re: TW5: How to use CreateTiddlersFromCSV

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Here's another version to try.

This version will ENABLE you to include tags with spaces (which I wouldn't 
advise personally...) Separate the tags with commas, but no spaces or 
quotes-within-quotes. Like:

title,tags,text,birth,death
"John Smith","English male,Therapist","Explorer, Artist","1900","1981"

In this version, definitely ALL fields (except header) must use double 
quotes. Failure to do so will result in truncated data. Probably need a 
more fail-safe approach. Later. 

Only the field labeled "tags" will get this special treatment. In all other 
fields, commas will just be part of the field text.

If you want tags with commas in them ... ask someone else ;-)

Mark

 

On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 7:45:28 PM UTC-7, LG wrote:
>
> Looks my project is putting up quite the fight! That bit didn't help it 
> either. :-)
>
> title,tags,text,birth,death
> "John Smith","English male","Explorer, Artist","1900","1981"
>
>
> The final tiddler output: 
>
> Title: "John Smith"
> Tags: "English, male"  <--- notice that the comma separates two tags. Each 
> kept one part of the quotes
> Text: "Explorer
> birth: Artist"
> death: "1900
>
>
> I hope you don't mind me sending you feedback on what I see. 
>
> Best, 
>
> LG
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 6:50 PM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>>
>> Ok, here's a slightly different version. Now it's really important that 
>> all the data lines have their fields enclosed with quotes. So your first 
>> two lines would look something like:
>>
>> name,category,relationship,DOB,DOD
>> "Frank Hudson","English male","husband of Sarah Owens, father of 
>> Nancy","1802","1860"
>>
>> HTH
>> Mark
>>
>> On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 3:39:34 PM UTC-7, LG wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's a sample line: 
>>>
>>> Frank Hudson,English male,"husband of Sarah Owens, father of 
>>> Nancy",1802,1860
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 12:01 AM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
>>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 Are all your fields surrounded in quotes? I forgot to mention that in 
 my rush. Each data field should be surrounded with quotes and separated 
 with commas with no space between. If that doesn't work, then some more 
 hacking might be in order.

 Mark

 On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 8:48:37 PM UTC-7, LG wrote:
>
> Btw, do you have any tips on how to keep the text field from 
> splitting? I was looking at TiddlyTools which said to write text which 
> has 
> a comma in it like so: "Here is some text, here is more." When I toss 
> that 
> in using your code, I get: 
>
> "Here is some text<--- body 
> here is more   <--- custom field
>
> I then tried writing it as ""Here is some text, here is more."" just 
> to see if that produced a different response. Nope. 
>
> Best, 
>
> LG 
>
> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 10:03:05 PM UTC-4, LG wrote:
>>
>> Hello, Mark!
>>
>> I can confirm that this works. The first attempt failed. But I 
>> realized the issue was that I forgot to reload after importing then 
>> saving. 
>> Then it worked smoothly. 
>>
>> I'm going to stress test it a bit more to see what else I can do. 
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> LG
>>
>> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 12:10:48 AM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's a brand new, experimental tool to help you import CSV data. 
>>> BE SURE TO BACKUP YOUR TW FILE BEFORE TRYING THIS!!
>>>
>>> Unfortunately it is not a 100% automatic. That's why I refer to it 
>>> as a helper. Someone who knows the innards of TW5 could probably fix up 
>>> the 
>>> code so that it does everything at once.
>>>
>>> Drag and drop the attached json file into your TW. Save and reload 
>>> your TW.
>>>
>>> Follow the instructions in "How to use the CSV to TW/JSON helper". 
>>> Basically you create a tiddler with your CSV data. The first row of the 
>>> CSV 
>>> data must have your field headers, and the field "title" is mandatory. 
>>> If 
>>> you want "created" or "modified" you will have to add your own date 
>>> stamps 
>>> at this point. 
>>>
>>> If the converter tiddler is successfully, your CSV data will appear 
>>> below. You can copy and paste the converted JSON code into a separate 
>>> file 
>>> with a JSON extension, and then drag and drop it back into your TW to 
>>> convert. This is the part that could use some more automation. 
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 8:18:23 PM UTC-7, LG wrote:

 Hi! I've been desperately googling for half an hour and I *cannot 
 *figure 
 out how to use CreateTiddlersFromCSV. I copy data in and then it tells 
 me I 
 need to save. I cannot find a save button. I've tried dragging the URL 
 into 
 my TiddlyWiki, but 

[tw] Numeric position info in $list widget and other filters (working implementation)

[Evan Balster]

Hello!

There's a feature I've wanted to see in TiddlyWiki for a while:  The 
ability, when using the $list widget, to create a variable corresponding to 
the position of the current item in the list.  My interest in this feature 
is to use it for coordinates when generating SVGs.  I took the initiative 
of making a crude working implementation.  Modifying the list widget proved 
a bit intimidating, so I implemented a filter operator instead.

The new operator is attached and can be imported to a wiki.  It is called 
*addposition*, and formats each title in the input list into some 
combination of title, list position, list size and customizable delimiters. 
 The intended use is to glue positions onto each list item and un-glue them 
later with string operations.

The filter operand is a format string, where T is replaced by the input 
title, P by the position and N by the size of the list.  The default format 
(when calling addposition[], no operand) is "P:T".  Prefix notation makes 
it easy to use the splitbefore operator.

Example code:


indextiddler
<$list variable="item" filter="[all[shadows]regexp[list]sort[title]
*addposition[P/N:T]*]">
<$set name=pos filter="[*splitbefore[:]removesuffix[:]*]">
<$set name=tiddler filter="[*removeprefixremoveprefix[:]*]">

  ^^#^^<>
  <>






If this function proves useful to others, it might be worth investigating 
position and/or size variable options in the $list widget itself, which 
would be somewhat more convenient to use.

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: How to use CreateTiddlersFromCSV

[Amanda L. Goodman]

Looks my project is putting up quite the fight! That bit didn't help it
either. :-)

title,tags,text,birth,death
"John Smith","English male","Explorer, Artist","1900","1981"


The final tiddler output:

Title: "John Smith"
Tags: "English, male"  <--- notice that the comma separates two tags. Each
kept one part of the quotes
Text: "Explorer
birth: Artist"
death: "1900


I hope you don't mind me sending you feedback on what I see.

Best,

LG

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 6:50 PM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> Ok, here's a slightly different version. Now it's really important that
> all the data lines have their fields enclosed with quotes. So your first
> two lines would look something like:
>
> name,category,relationship,DOB,DOD
> "Frank Hudson","English male","husband of Sarah Owens, father of
> Nancy","1802","1860"
>
> HTH
> Mark
>
> On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 3:39:34 PM UTC-7, LG wrote:
>>
>> Here's a sample line:
>>
>> Frank Hudson,English male,"husband of Sarah Owens, father of
>> Nancy",1802,1860
>>
>> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 12:01 AM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Are all your fields surrounded in quotes? I forgot to mention that in my
>>> rush. Each data field should be surrounded with quotes and separated with
>>> commas with no space between. If that doesn't work, then some more hacking
>>> might be in order.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 8:48:37 PM UTC-7, LG wrote:

 Btw, do you have any tips on how to keep the text field from splitting?
 I was looking at TiddlyTools which said to write text which has a comma in
 it like so: "Here is some text, here is more." When I toss that in using
 your code, I get:

 "Here is some text<--- body
 here is more   <--- custom field

 I then tried writing it as ""Here is some text, here is more."" just to
 see if that produced a different response. Nope.

 Best,

 LG

 On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 10:03:05 PM UTC-4, LG wrote:
>
> Hello, Mark!
>
> I can confirm that this works. The first attempt failed. But I
> realized the issue was that I forgot to reload after importing then 
> saving.
> Then it worked smoothly.
>
> I'm going to stress test it a bit more to see what else I can do.
>
> Thank you!
>
> LG
>
> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 12:10:48 AM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Here's a brand new, experimental tool to help you import CSV data. BE
>> SURE TO BACKUP YOUR TW FILE BEFORE TRYING THIS!!
>>
>> Unfortunately it is not a 100% automatic. That's why I refer to it as
>> a helper. Someone who knows the innards of TW5 could probably fix up the
>> code so that it does everything at once.
>>
>> Drag and drop the attached json file into your TW. Save and reload
>> your TW.
>>
>> Follow the instructions in "How to use the CSV to TW/JSON helper".
>> Basically you create a tiddler with your CSV data. The first row of the 
>> CSV
>> data must have your field headers, and the field "title" is mandatory. If
>> you want "created" or "modified" you will have to add your own date 
>> stamps
>> at this point.
>>
>> If the converter tiddler is successfully, your CSV data will appear
>> below. You can copy and paste the converted JSON code into a separate 
>> file
>> with a JSON extension, and then drag and drop it back into your TW to
>> convert. This is the part that could use some more automation.
>>
>> Good luck,
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 8:18:23 PM UTC-7, LG wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi! I've been desperately googling for half an hour and I *cannot 
>>> *figure
>>> out how to use CreateTiddlersFromCSV. I copy data in and then it tells 
>>> me I
>>> need to save. I cannot find a save button. I've tried dragging the URL 
>>> into
>>> my TiddlyWiki, but the page just reloads and goes to that site.
>>>
>>> How do I do this?
>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyDesktop v0.0.7

[Dave]

I'll give you my limited take on it, and then someone else can correct my 
mistakes.

TW Desktop is a TW5 (I think its limited to TW5, but I guess you might be 
able to do it withTWC) instance that's half way in between the regular 
single file kind and the full Node.js variety.  As far as I can see its 
browser agnostic (don't need a regular browser to run it, but you can still 
open the TW files with a browser if you want), and I believe it can access 
the file system a bit more easily (like with node.js) - but I haven't 
looked  into that at all and I might be wrong about that.  Recently its 
been designed to be able to store tiddlers as text files (with the .tid 
extension) so you could access them with external methods.

On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 2:47:13 PM UTC-6, iain wrote:
>
> I was wondering whether there is an explanation of TW Desktop - what it 
> is, what it is meant to do and its relationship with TW Classic and TW5.
>
> I tried searching this group and couldn't find one.
>
> Cheers
>
> Iain 
>

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[tw] Re: [NOOB] Transclusion, Templates, Filters and Tags vs Fields

[Mat]

Much too late, shouldn't write this as it may be just be... not what you 
want. But at least it works;

<$set name="aa" filter="[tag[HelloThere]]">
<$macrocall $name="tabs" tabsList=<> class="tc-vertical"/>


I'm aksing my brain how to put inthe name of currentTiddler there but it 
tells me nto to disturb it while it's sleeping.

Caption field is just a simple field you name "caption" and give a value 
"whatever you want todisplay on the tab", i. e the bottom thingy in edit 
mode. When people talk about some field you've never heard of, it's because 
it doesn't exist - until you make it. Like the goodnite field. I'll set 
value to: now.

<:-)


On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 12:40:32 AM UTC+2, wolfsong wrote:
>
> Hi Mat
>
> Yes. I want to create a template for a tabbed tiddler where the parent 
> tiddler and each of the tabs have the same title but the tabs will also 
> have a suffix. This way if I need to edit a tab, I will be able to verify 
> which tiddler is the parent. I maybe looking at doing this the wrong way. 
> Can you explain how the caption field would be used?
>
> I think I have vertical tabs working. Is it class:"tc-vertical" or 
> class=tc-vertical? The parameters are given but not used in the examples on 
> tiddlywiki.com so I'm unclear on what this and other syntax should be.
>
> You're right. I'm not using it because what I tried didn't work and broke 
> the tabs. I tried this:
>
> <>: Description]] [[<>: 
> Devices]] [[<>: Frequency]] [[<>: Script 
> Name]] [[<>: Monitoring Criteria]] [[<>: 
> Alert 
> Trigger Criteria]] [[<>: Immediate Reaction Steps]]" 
> class:"tc-vertical">>
>
> and this
>
> <>[[: Description]] <>[[: 
> Devices]] <>[[: Frequency]] <>[[: Script 
> Name]] [[<>: Monitoring Criteria]] <>[[: 
> Alert 
> Trigger Criteria]] <>[[: Immediate Reaction Steps]]" 
> class:"tc-vertical">>
>
> but neither works.
>
> Thanks
> Cristov
>
>
>
> On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 4:50:02 PM UTC-5, Mat wrote:
>>
>> Hi wolfsong
>>
>> On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 10:27:18 PM UTC+2, wolfsong wrote:
>>>
>>> After looking through the forum a bit I think I need something that's a 
>>> close to this 
>>> 
>>>  where 
>>> I have a template for a tabbed document that separates each section into 
>>> it's own tiddler. I'm just not certain how to pass the name of to the 
>>> sections and do this as a template. I have a macro that sorta works in that 
>>> it creates the tabs when called
>>>
>>> \define monitoringtabs(<>)
>>> <>> Name]] [[Monitoring Criteria]] [[Alert Trigger Criteria]] [[Immediate 
>>> Reaction Steps]]" class:"tc-vertical">>
>>> \end
>>>
>>> What I'd like the template to actually do is call the macro and create 
>>> the tabs but with the naming convention of Parent Title: Description, 
>>> Parent Title: Frequency, etc. but only show the suffix for each of the 
>>> tabs. Is that possible?
>>>
>>
>> In spite of your obvious efforts to make the questions very clear, it's a 
>> bit vague to me (what is "a tabbed document" - do you mean a tabbed 
>> tiddler? And I certainly don't understand "use a template to pull in 
>> tiddlers") ...but I think I got at least a few things. So FWIW;
>>
>> For getting a tab to show something else than the title of the tiddler it 
>> is showing, you use a caption field in the tiddler.
>>
>> To get vertical tabs, I'm guessing (based on docs, didn't try) that you 
>> just put class="tc-vertical" inside the tabs macro, perhaps at extreme 
>> right.
>>
>> In your macro def, I don't think you should include the currentTddler 
>> macro call as  an argument. Try to just leav the parameter list empty i.e 
>> () and just make the call inside the actual macro where you need it. 
>> However, it doesn't look like you're using it so... just skip it.
>>  
>> Hope this is of at least some help. But keep on asking for the other 
>> stuff.
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: How to use CreateTiddlersFromCSV

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Ok, here's a slightly different version. Now it's really important that all 
the data lines have their fields enclosed with quotes. So your first two 
lines would look something like:

name,category,relationship,DOB,DOD
"Frank Hudson","English male","husband of Sarah Owens, father of 
Nancy","1802","1860"

HTH
Mark

On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 3:39:34 PM UTC-7, LG wrote:
>
> Here's a sample line: 
>
> Frank Hudson,English male,"husband of Sarah Owens, father of 
> Nancy",1802,1860
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 12:01 AM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> Are all your fields surrounded in quotes? I forgot to mention that in my 
>> rush. Each data field should be surrounded with quotes and separated with 
>> commas with no space between. If that doesn't work, then some more hacking 
>> might be in order.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 8:48:37 PM UTC-7, LG wrote:
>>>
>>> Btw, do you have any tips on how to keep the text field from splitting? 
>>> I was looking at TiddlyTools which said to write text which has a comma in 
>>> it like so: "Here is some text, here is more." When I toss that in using 
>>> your code, I get: 
>>>
>>> "Here is some text<--- body 
>>> here is more   <--- custom field
>>>
>>> I then tried writing it as ""Here is some text, here is more."" just to 
>>> see if that produced a different response. Nope. 
>>>
>>> Best, 
>>>
>>> LG 
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 10:03:05 PM UTC-4, LG wrote:

 Hello, Mark!

 I can confirm that this works. The first attempt failed. But I realized 
 the issue was that I forgot to reload after importing then saving. Then it 
 worked smoothly. 

 I'm going to stress test it a bit more to see what else I can do. 

 Thank you!

 LG

 On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 12:10:48 AM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Here's a brand new, experimental tool to help you import CSV data. BE 
> SURE TO BACKUP YOUR TW FILE BEFORE TRYING THIS!!
>
> Unfortunately it is not a 100% automatic. That's why I refer to it as 
> a helper. Someone who knows the innards of TW5 could probably fix up the 
> code so that it does everything at once.
>
> Drag and drop the attached json file into your TW. Save and reload 
> your TW.
>
> Follow the instructions in "How to use the CSV to TW/JSON helper". 
> Basically you create a tiddler with your CSV data. The first row of the 
> CSV 
> data must have your field headers, and the field "title" is mandatory. If 
> you want "created" or "modified" you will have to add your own date 
> stamps 
> at this point. 
>
> If the converter tiddler is successfully, your CSV data will appear 
> below. You can copy and paste the converted JSON code into a separate 
> file 
> with a JSON extension, and then drag and drop it back into your TW to 
> convert. This is the part that could use some more automation. 
>
> Good luck,
> Mark
>
>
> On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 8:18:23 PM UTC-7, LG wrote:
>>
>> Hi! I've been desperately googling for half an hour and I *cannot 
>> *figure 
>> out how to use CreateTiddlersFromCSV. I copy data in and then it tells 
>> me I 
>> need to save. I cannot find a save button. I've tried dragging the URL 
>> into 
>> my TiddlyWiki, but the page just reloads and goes to that site. 
>>
>> How do I do this?
>>
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[tw] Re: [NOOB] Transclusion, Templates, Filters and Tags vs Fields

[wolfsong]

Hi Mat

Yes. I want to create a template for a tabbed tiddler where the parent 
tiddler and each of the tabs have the same title but the tabs will also 
have a suffix. This way if I need to edit a tab, I will be able to verify 
which tiddler is the parent. I maybe looking at doing this the wrong way. 
Can you explain how the caption field would be used?

I think I have vertical tabs working. Is it class:"tc-vertical" or 
class=tc-vertical? The parameters are given but not used in the examples on 
tiddlywiki.com so I'm unclear on what this and other syntax should be.

You're right. I'm not using it because what I tried didn't work and broke 
the tabs. I tried this:

<>: Description]] [[<>: 
Devices]] 
[[<>: Frequency]] [[<>: Script Name]] [[<
>: Monitoring Criteria]] [[<>: Alert 
Trigger Criteria]] [[<>: Immediate Reaction Steps]]" 
class:"tc-vertical">>

and this

<>[[: Description]] <>[[: 
Devices]] 
<>[[: Frequency]] <>[[: Script Name]] [[<
>: Monitoring Criteria]] <>[[: Alert 
Trigger Criteria]] <>[[: Immediate Reaction Steps]]" 
class:"tc-vertical">>

but neither works.

On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 4:50:02 PM UTC-5, Mat wrote:
>
> Hi wolfsong
>
> On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 10:27:18 PM UTC+2, wolfsong wrote:
>>
>> After looking through the forum a bit I think I need something that's a 
>> close to this 
>> 
>>  where 
>> I have a template for a tabbed document that separates each section into 
>> it's own tiddler. I'm just not certain how to pass the name of to the 
>> sections and do this as a template. I have a macro that sorta works in that 
>> it creates the tabs when called
>>
>> \define monitoringtabs(<>)
>> <> Name]] [[Monitoring Criteria]] [[Alert Trigger Criteria]] [[Immediate 
>> Reaction Steps]]" class:"tc-vertical">>
>> \end
>>
>> What I'd like the template to actually do is call the macro and create 
>> the tabs but with the naming convention of Parent Title: Description, 
>> Parent Title: Frequency, etc. but only show the suffix for each of the 
>> tabs. Is that possible?
>>
>
> In spite of your obvious efforts to make the questions very clear, it's a 
> bit vague to me (what is "a tabbed document" - do you mean a tabbed 
> tiddler? And I certainly don't understand "use a template to pull in 
> tiddlers") ...but I think I got at least a few things. So FWIW;
>
> For getting a tab to show something else than the title of the tiddler it 
> is showing, you use a caption field in the tiddler.
>
> To get vertical tabs, I'm guessing (based on docs, didn't try) that you 
> just put class="tc-vertical" inside the tabs macro, perhaps at extreme 
> right.
>
> In your macro def, I don't think you should include the currentTddler 
> macro call as  an argument. Try to just leav the parameter list empty i.e 
> () and just make the call inside the actual macro where you need it. 
> However, it doesn't look like you're using it so... just skip it.
>  
> Hope this is of at least some help. But keep on asking for the other stuff.
>
> <:-)
>

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: How to use CreateTiddlersFromCSV

[Amanda L. Goodman]

Here's a sample line:

Frank Hudson,English male,"husband of Sarah Owens, father of
Nancy",1802,1860

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 12:01 AM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Are all your fields surrounded in quotes? I forgot to mention that in my
> rush. Each data field should be surrounded with quotes and separated with
> commas with no space between. If that doesn't work, then some more hacking
> might be in order.
>
> Mark
>
> On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 8:48:37 PM UTC-7, LG wrote:
>>
>> Btw, do you have any tips on how to keep the text field from splitting? I
>> was looking at TiddlyTools which said to write text which has a comma in it
>> like so: "Here is some text, here is more." When I toss that in using your
>> code, I get:
>>
>> "Here is some text<--- body
>> here is more   <--- custom field
>>
>> I then tried writing it as ""Here is some text, here is more."" just to
>> see if that produced a different response. Nope.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> LG
>>
>> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 10:03:05 PM UTC-4, LG wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello, Mark!
>>>
>>> I can confirm that this works. The first attempt failed. But I realized
>>> the issue was that I forgot to reload after importing then saving. Then it
>>> worked smoothly.
>>>
>>> I'm going to stress test it a bit more to see what else I can do.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> LG
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 12:10:48 AM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:

 Here's a brand new, experimental tool to help you import CSV data. BE
 SURE TO BACKUP YOUR TW FILE BEFORE TRYING THIS!!

 Unfortunately it is not a 100% automatic. That's why I refer to it as a
 helper. Someone who knows the innards of TW5 could probably fix up the code
 so that it does everything at once.

 Drag and drop the attached json file into your TW. Save and reload your
 TW.

 Follow the instructions in "How to use the CSV to TW/JSON helper".
 Basically you create a tiddler with your CSV data. The first row of the CSV
 data must have your field headers, and the field "title" is mandatory. If
 you want "created" or "modified" you will have to add your own date stamps
 at this point.

 If the converter tiddler is successfully, your CSV data will appear
 below. You can copy and paste the converted JSON code into a separate file
 with a JSON extension, and then drag and drop it back into your TW to
 convert. This is the part that could use some more automation.

 Good luck,
 Mark


 On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 8:18:23 PM UTC-7, LG wrote:
>
> Hi! I've been desperately googling for half an hour and I *cannot *figure
> out how to use CreateTiddlersFromCSV. I copy data in and then it tells me 
> I
> need to save. I cannot find a save button. I've tried dragging the URL 
> into
> my TiddlyWiki, but the page just reloads and goes to that site.
>
> How do I do this?
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[tw] Re: [NOOB] Transclusion, Templates, Filters and Tags vs Fields

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I think you want a macro like this:

\define monitoringtabs()
<>
\end

put that in a tiddler with the tag $:/tags/Macro so that it is globally 
available.
and then invoke it like this in each of your "parent" tiddlers:

<>


As Mat mentions, the tabs macro will use the caption field for the tab 
name, so set up each of your child tiddlers with a caption name that 
reflects the intended suffix.

HTH
Mark



On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 1:27:18 PM UTC-7, wolfsong wrote:
>
> After looking through the forum a bit I think I need something that's a 
> close to this 
> 
>  where 
> I have a template for a tabbed document that separates each section into 
> it's own tiddler. I'm just not certain how to pass the name of to the 
> sections and do this as a template. I have a macro that sorta works in that 
> it creates the tabs when called
>
> \define monitoringtabs(<>)
> < Name]] [[Monitoring Criteria]] [[Alert Trigger Criteria]] [[Immediate 
> Reaction Steps]]" class:"tc-vertical">>
> \end
>
> What I'd like the template to actually do is call the macro and create the 
> tabs but with the naming convention of Parent Title: Description, Parent 
> Title: Frequency, etc. but only show the suffix for each of the tabs. Is 
> that possible?
>

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[tw] Re: [NOOB] Transclusion, Templates, Filters and Tags vs Fields

[Mat]

Hi wolfsong

On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 10:27:18 PM UTC+2, wolfsong wrote:
>
> After looking through the forum a bit I think I need something that's a 
> close to this 
> 
>  where 
> I have a template for a tabbed document that separates each section into 
> it's own tiddler. I'm just not certain how to pass the name of to the 
> sections and do this as a template. I have a macro that sorta works in that 
> it creates the tabs when called
>
> \define monitoringtabs(<>)
> < Name]] [[Monitoring Criteria]] [[Alert Trigger Criteria]] [[Immediate 
> Reaction Steps]]" class:"tc-vertical">>
> \end
>
> What I'd like the template to actually do is call the macro and create the 
> tabs but with the naming convention of Parent Title: Description, Parent 
> Title: Frequency, etc. but only show the suffix for each of the tabs. Is 
> that possible?
>

In spite of your obvious efforts to make the questions very clear, it's a 
bit vague to me (what is "a tabbed document" - do you mean a tabbed 
tiddler? And I certainly don't understand "use a template to pull in 
tiddlers") ...but I think I got at least a few things. So FWIW;

For getting a tab to show something else than the title of the tiddler it 
is showing, you use a caption field in the tiddler.

To get vertical tabs, I'm guessing (based on docs, didn't try) that you 
just put class="tc-vertical" inside the tabs macro, perhaps at extreme 
right.

In your macro def, I don't think you should include the currentTddler macro 
call as  an argument. Try to just leav the parameter list empty i.e () and 
just make the call inside the actual macro where you need it. However, it 
doesn't look like you're using it so... just skip it.
 
Hope this is of at least some help. But keep on asking for the other stuff.

<:-)

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Re: [tw] Re: Simple task complex problem

[Ákos Szederjei]

 Garner

Thank you, I missed that, or more to my embarrassment, I forgot that option.

@Matabele
Thanks, that is even better. Never though of that!

Ákos

On 5/12/2016 9:08 PM, Matabele wrote:
> Hi Ákos Szederjei 
> 
> I often misuse the definition syntax for this purpose -- it may be used
> to create a title followed by a number of indented lines, or the title
> may be left blank -- like so.
> 
> |
> ;Title
> :Line1
> :Line2
> :Line3
> :Line4
> |
> 
>  -- or like so.
> 
> |
> ;
> :Line1
> :Line2
> :Line3
> :Line4
> |
> 
> The ';' will carry over -- only one is required and may be followed by
> indented lines interspersed with other text -- like so.
> 
> |
> ;Title
> :Line1
> :Line2
> Andanother paragraph another paragraph another paragraph another
> paragraph another paragraph another paragraph another paragraph another
> paragraph another paragraph another paragraph another paragraph another
> paragraph
> 
> :Line3
> :Line4
> |
> 
> regards
> 
> On Thursday, 12 May 2016 19:49:02 UTC+2, Ákos Szederjei wrote:
> 
> Hello TW users and creators!
> 
> In a tiddler I would like to have the following text:
> 
> Line1
> Line2
> Line3
> Line4
> 
> Is there any other solution besides  at the end of the line?
> 
> Thank you for the help!
> 
> Ákos, wanna be tiddler master :)
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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyDesktop v0.0.7

[iain]

I was wondering whether there is an explanation of TW Desktop - what it is, 
what it is meant to do and its relationship with TW Classic and TW5.

I tried searching this group and couldn't find one.

Cheers

Iain 

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[tw] Re: [NOOB] Transclusion, Templates, Filters and Tags vs Fields

[wolfsong]

After looking through the forum a bit I think I need something that's a 
close to this 

 where 
I have a template for a tabbed document that separates each section into 
it's own tiddler. I'm just not certain how to pass the name of to the 
sections and do this as a template. I have a macro that sorta works in that 
it creates the tags when called

\define monitoringtabs(<>)
<>
\end

What I'd like the template to actually do is call the macro and create the 
tabs but with the naming convention of Parent Title: Description, Parent 
Title: Frequency, etc. but only show the suffix for each of the tabs. Is 
that possible?

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Re: [tw] Re: TEXtAREA is totally open to external editors. NEVER forge4t that.

[Alex Hough]

Hi Jeremy,

and what do you think of the idea of being able to create tiddlers from
Sublime?

If it had a feature like the new code snippet button in the prerelease, one
could create tiddlers in sublime.

It may be minimally practical, but I like the idea of TiddlyWiki spilling
out into another technology.

Alex

On 12 May 2016 at 16:58, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:

> Hi Alex
>
> There is a Sublime Text 3 plugin for TiddlyWiki:
>
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#TiddlyWiki%20extensions%20for%20Sublime%20Text%203%20by%20roma0104
>
> The main thing it provides is syntax highlighting for .tid files.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
> On 12 May 2016, at 02:39, Alex Hough  wrote:
>
> I asked the question about external editors
>
> I am using Chrome and Node.js
> I wondered about editing .tid files in Sublime and the possiblity of an
> plugin for Sublime to make .tid files.
>
> I am not aware of a Chrome plugin for this function
>
> Alex
>
> On 12 May 2016 at 01:25, infurnoape  wrote:
>
>> I want to know about the other thing?!?
>>
>>
>>
>> Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5
>>
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: proge...@assays.tv
>> Date: 5/11/16 2:44 PM (GMT-07:00)
>> To: TiddlyWiki 
>> Subject: [tw] Re: TEXtAREA is totally open to external editors. NEVER
>> forge4t that.
>>
>> My tiddly friend, you should probably start the other TW blog. You're
>> making valid points but many of them are kind of "general insights" ... etc.
>>
>> WE are ephemeral.
>>
>> I am interested in ME.
>>
>> The TW5 editor IS good.
>>
>> Ask  if you want to know about the other things.
>>
>> J.
>>
>> On Wednesday, 11 May 2016 23:13:28 UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>>>
>>> My tiddly friend, you should probably start a TW blog. You're making
>>> valid points but many of them are kind of "general insights" so people will
>>> forget them and (for sure) a week from now they're gone in the archives.
>>> I'd say it is extremely unlikely that anybody would search for an insight
>>> like the one you just posted, even if it - again - is valid. Personally my
>>> outlet for these types of thoughts (and much more) is TWaddle
>>> . It is convenient also; I can refer to
>>> articles there when the occasions arise.
>>>
>>> <:-)
>>>
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[tw] Re: Simple task complex problem

[Matabele]

Hi Ákos Szederjei 

I often misuse the definition syntax for this purpose -- it may be used to 
create a title followed by a number of indented lines, or the title may be 
left blank -- like so.

; Title
: Line 1
: Line 2
: Line 3
: Line 4

 -- or like so.

; 
: Line 1
: Line 2
: Line 3
: Line 4

The ';' will carry over -- only one is required and may be followed by 
indented lines interspersed with other text -- like so.

; Title
: Line 1
: Line 2
And another paragraph another paragraph another paragraph another paragraph 
another paragraph another paragraph another paragraph another paragraph 
another paragraph another paragraph another paragraph another paragraph

: Line 3
: Line 4

regards

On Thursday, 12 May 2016 19:49:02 UTC+2, Ákos Szederjei wrote:
>
> Hello TW users and creators! 
>
> In a tiddler I would like to have the following text: 
>
> Line1 
> Line2 
> Line3 
> Line4 
>
> Is there any other solution besides  at the end of the line? 
>
> Thank you for the help! 
>
> Ákos, wanna be tiddler master :) 
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyDesktop v0.0.7

[Dave]

Thank you. 

I can probably live with the underscore naming and the .tid thing, and I'll 
look into the symlink option (that's always been mysterious to me, so a 
good project to research)

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Re: [tw] [tw5] Final tests for 5.1.12 before release

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Jeremy,

Using http://keycode.info/, I find that that site doesn't work at all for 
Pale Moon. Odd.

On Fire Fox, it breaks the sequence into each step. So

Shift == 16
Ins == 45

It does not report that Shift-Ins (together) as different from Shift-Ins as 
two step sequences. 

Although the browser may do the paste/cut, the TW5 application must be 
grabbing key sequences. Shift-INS works in the old (current) TW5, but not 
in the new (pre-release) TW5 ... in the SAME browser.

Thanks!
Mark

On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 10:17:51 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Mark
>
> When I look at the keyboard shortcuts, I notice that there aren't any for 
> cut/paste. 
>
>
> No, the cut/copy/paste keyboard shortcuts are implemented by the browser.
>
> On FF in Windows, Ctl-V still works, but Shift-INS (which personally I 
> never use) is not working in the pre-release. Shift-INS does work in the 
> current full release version, so I assume it has something to do with the 
> short-cut handling. That is, the short-cut handler is "eating" all the 
> keystrokes, but only sending on certain ones.
>
>
> I can’t test this as I don’t have access to a Windows PC; I usually test 
> in a VM on the Mac, but that doesn’t give me an “INS” key.
>
> It would be helpful if you could use this site and report back the 
> keycodes you get for the “INS” key in Firefox and other browsers:
>
> http://keycode.info
>
> Maybe if cut/paste were added to the configuration shortcuts, people could 
> add whatever keys they thought most intuitive?
>
>
> The trouble is that the implementation of those copy and paste shortcuts 
> would be the same execCommand() call that has caused us such problems with 
> Undo/Redo.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
> Mark
>  
> On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 9:21:55 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>>
>> So, perhaps it would be useful if you could review the default keyboard 
>> shortcuts and provide some feedback so that we can improve them together.
>>
>> Also, Shift-Ins (paste) is not working. I prefer that over Ctrl-V. So, 
>> thank you for the off switch as well :)
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [tw] [tw5] Final tests for 5.1.12 before release

[Rustem]

Jeremy,

Sorry it came out too harsh. As a user of a bleeding-edge version, I 
appreciate the off switch immensely, while we work out the kinks.

--R.

On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 9:21:55 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Rustem
>
> I wanted to like the new editor, but it messes with browser keyboard 
> shortcuts, for example Ctrl-T to open a new tab. I see those can be 
> reconfigured, I might try that later. 
>
>
> TiddlyWiki is a community development. I can’t personally keep track of 
> every interaction on every platform. I use TiddlyWiki every day on the Mac 
> and on iOS. I’m really dependent on feedback from Windows and Linux users 
> to improve the experience there.
>
> You’ve phrased it as “I don’t like the toolbar because it doesn’t work 
> properly for me in these situations”. But really it’s up to you to help me 
> improve it so that it does work properly for as many situations as possible.
>
> So, perhaps it would be useful if you could review the default keyboard 
> shortcuts and provide some feedback so that we can improve them together.
>
> Also, Shift-Ins (paste) is not working. I prefer that over Ctrl-V. So, 
> thank you for the off switch as well :)
>
>
> Again, I think this is a bug, but you are reporting it as if it is an 
> intrinsic problem with the editor toolbar.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> --R.
>
>
> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 1:16:02 PM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Hi Rustem 
>>
>> > In Firefox, both Windows and Linux, I get this. Tested with a new 
>> profile, as well as on another person's machine - same result. 
>>
>> Great, thank you. Fixed here: 
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/e54cc7b211e10df5048b85a30ebea42e6f885a54
>>  
>>
>> I’ve uploaded a new prerelease too, 
>>
>> Best wishes 
>>
>> Jeremy. 
>>
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[tw] Re: Simple task complex problem

[Ton Gerner]

Hi,

http://tiddlywiki.com/#Hard%20Linebreaks%20in%20WikiText

Cheers,

Ton


On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 7:49:02 PM UTC+2, Ákos Szederjei wrote:
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> Hello TW users and creators! 
>
> In a tiddler I would like to have the following text: 
>
> Line1 
> Line2 
> Line3 
> Line4 
>
> Is there any other solution besides  at the end of the line? 
>
> Thank you for the help! 
>
> Ákos, wanna be tiddler master :) 
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[tw] Simple task complex problem

[Ákos Szederjei]

Hello TW users and creators!

In a tiddler I would like to have the following text:

Line1
Line2
Line3
Line4

Is there any other solution besides  at the end of the line?

Thank you for the help!

Ákos, wanna be tiddler master :)

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[tw] Re: PLUGIN OF PLUGINS -- For Managing Multiple Tiddlywiki? Possible?

[Greg Davis]

If I understand correctly, you have several plugins that you would like to 
have included each time you start a new TiddlyWiki. I had a similar 
question which applies to plugins as well. [TW5] use JSON as alternative to 
plugin  
I tagged the tiddlers I wanted to include and using Advanced Search saved 
them all as a JSON that could be imported to a new TW. This also has worked 
with my favorite plugins. Tag the plugins you want, with a unique tag, and 
then using Advanced Search save them as a JSON. You could also create 
different groups of favorite plugins by using tags and saving appropriate 
JSONs.

Of course this wold not take care of updating for new versions but once a 
new version is installed just save as JSON again and ready to go.

See Example tiddlers at: Custom Left Menu 


Hope that helps,
Greg

On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 4:52:17 PM UTC-5, prog...@assays.tv wrote:
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> i really like we share the same headache.
>
> On Wednesday, 11 May 2016 22:33:30 UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
>>
>> No solution, just a +1.
>>
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Re: [tw] [tw5] Final tests for 5.1.12 before release

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mark

> When I look at the keyboard shortcuts, I notice that there aren't any for 
> cut/paste. 

No, the cut/copy/paste keyboard shortcuts are implemented by the browser.

> On FF in Windows, Ctl-V still works, but Shift-INS (which personally I never 
> use) is not working in the pre-release. Shift-INS does work in the current 
> full release version, so I assume it has something to do with the short-cut 
> handling. That is, the short-cut handler is "eating" all the keystrokes, but 
> only sending on certain ones.

I can’t test this as I don’t have access to a Windows PC; I usually test in a 
VM on the Mac, but that doesn’t give me an “INS” key.

It would be helpful if you could use this site and report back the keycodes you 
get for the “INS” key in Firefox and other browsers:

http://keycode.info

> Maybe if cut/paste were added to the configuration shortcuts, people could 
> add whatever keys they thought most intuitive?

The trouble is that the implementation of those copy and paste shortcuts would 
be the same execCommand() call that has caused us such problems with Undo/Redo.

Many thanks,

Jeremy.



> Thanks!
> Mark
>  
> On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 9:21:55 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
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> So, perhaps it would be useful if you could review the default keyboard 
> shortcuts and provide some feedback so that we can improve them together.
> 
>> Also, Shift-Ins (paste) is not working. I prefer that over Ctrl-V. So, thank 
>> you for the off switch as well :)
> 
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Re: [tw] [tw5] Final tests for 5.1.12 before release

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Jeremy,

When I look at the keyboard shortcuts, I notice that there aren't any for 
cut/paste. 

On FF in Windows, Ctl-V still works, but Shift-INS (which personally I 
never use) is not working in the pre-release. Shift-INS does work in the 
current full release version, so I assume it has something to do with the 
short-cut handling. That is, the short-cut handler is "eating" all the 
keystrokes, but only sending on certain ones.

Maybe if cut/paste were added to the configuration shortcuts, people could 
add whatever keys they thought most intuitive?

Thanks!
Mark
 
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>
> So, perhaps it would be useful if you could review the default keyboard 
> shortcuts and provide some feedback so that we can improve them together.
>
> Also, Shift-Ins (paste) is not working. I prefer that over Ctrl-V. So, 
> thank you for the off switch as well :)
>
>
>
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Re: [tw] Is it possible to make clicking on a missing link create a new draft?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Alex

It’s a good idea, but I’m afraid I don’t have time to work on it now. Perhaps 
create a GitHub ticket to keep track of the idea?

Many thanks,

Jeremy

> On 9 May 2016, at 13:51, Alex Hough  wrote:
> 
> Hello TW,
> 
> I am finding myself working in edit mode and clicking on links on the preview 
> pane. I am inspired by the discussion of live coding in Hangout 100
> 
> it would be quicker for me if clicking on a missing tiddler crated a new 
> draft with the title of that tiddler
> 
> 
> or put another way, a missing link is parsed as a button which when pressed 
> creates a new tiddler with the title of the link.
> 
> * it would be nice if the curser ended up in the body rather than in the 
> title.
> 
> 
> This idea kind of breaks through a convention. WikiText could create a button
> 
> Edit Mode?
> 
> There could be an edit mode where a link clicked on in preview always opens a 
> draft
> 
> With tiddlers opening above the present, a pleasing zig zag workflow could 
> develop, see below
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [tw] [tw5] Final tests for 5.1.12 before release

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Rustem

> Actually, why not invoke the preview type dropdown from the preview button 
> itself? Just add "none" to the list of choices.

Because then it would take two clicks to turn the preview on or off.

Also, the preview type dropdown only appears when additional preview types are 
loaded (eg via the “Internals” plugin that is included in the prerelease).

Best wishes

Jeremy

> 
> The open eye icon could remain the same for any preview type except "none".
> 
> --R
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> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 5:01:35 PM UTC-7, Rustem wrote:
> This seems to be the thread to go for anything new-editor-related. So…
> 
> Wish: Relocate preview button (and accompanying dropdown) to inside (or next 
> to) , so it could be used with the simple editor as 
> well.
> Bug: Upon pressing Alt-P to open/close preview, the editor loses focus and 
> needs a mouse click inside to continue editing.
> 
> --R.
> 
> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 4:04:05 PM UTC-7, Rustem wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for the quick fix.
> 
> I wanted to like the new editor, but it messes with browser keyboard 
> shortcuts, for example Ctrl-T to open a new tab. I see those can be 
> reconfigured, I might try that later. 
> 
> Also, Shift-Ins (paste) is not working. I prefer that over Ctrl-V. So, thank 
> you for the off switch as well :)
> 
> --R.
> 
> 
> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 1:16:02 PM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> Hi Rustem 
> 
> > In Firefox, both Windows and Linux, I get this. Tested with a new profile, 
> > as well as on another person's machine - same result. 
> 
> Great, thank you. Fixed here: 
> 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/e54cc7b211e10df5048b85a30ebea42e6f885a54
>  
> 
>  
> 
> I’ve uploaded a new prerelease too, 
> 
> Best wishes 
> 
> Jeremy. 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [tw] [tw5] Final tests for 5.1.12 before release

[Jeremy Ruston]

> wish: make the toolbar sticky, even if it causes problems with some browsers.

Sadly, the peculiar rules governing position: sticky mean that doing so would 
require a major reorganisation of the HTML generated by the editor. You can 
experiment with your browser devtools but I couldn’t find a place for position: 
sticky that has the desired effect.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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Re: [tw] [tw5] Final tests for 5.1.12 before release

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Rustem

> Wish: Relocate preview button (and accompanying dropdown) to inside (or next 
> to) , so it could be used with the simple editor as 
> well.

It doesn’t seem right to make the preview button be part of the tags machinery, 
but I recognise the problem. I’d rather explore extending the toolbar so that 
those buttons that don’t need focus preservation (such as the preview button) 
will work with the simple editor.
> Bug: Upon pressing Alt-P to open/close preview, the editor loses focus and 
> needs a mouse click inside to continue editing.
> 
I see the problem, but I don’t see a good solution. Switching the preview off 
requires us to refresh the tiddler, and that loses the focus.

Best wishes

Jeremy


> --R.
> 
> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 4:04:05 PM UTC-7, Rustem wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for the quick fix.
> 
> I wanted to like the new editor, but it messes with browser keyboard 
> shortcuts, for example Ctrl-T to open a new tab. I see those can be 
> reconfigured, I might try that later. 
> 
> Also, Shift-Ins (paste) is not working. I prefer that over Ctrl-V. So, thank 
> you for the off switch as well :)
> 
> --R.
> 
> 
> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 1:16:02 PM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> Hi Rustem 
> 
> > In Firefox, both Windows and Linux, I get this. Tested with a new profile, 
> > as well as on another person's machine - same result. 
> 
> Great, thank you. Fixed here: 
> 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/e54cc7b211e10df5048b85a30ebea42e6f885a54
>  
> 
>  
> 
> I’ve uploaded a new prerelease too, 
> 
> Best wishes 
> 
> Jeremy. 
> 
> 
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Re: [tw] [tw5] Final tests for 5.1.12 before release

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Rustem

> I wanted to like the new editor, but it messes with browser keyboard 
> shortcuts, for example Ctrl-T to open a new tab. I see those can be 
> reconfigured, I might try that later. 

TiddlyWiki is a community development. I can’t personally keep track of every 
interaction on every platform. I use TiddlyWiki every day on the Mac and on 
iOS. I’m really dependent on feedback from Windows and Linux users to improve 
the experience there.

You’ve phrased it as “I don’t like the toolbar because it doesn’t work properly 
for me in these situations”. But really it’s up to you to help me improve it so 
that it does work properly for as many situations as possible.

So, perhaps it would be useful if you could review the default keyboard 
shortcuts and provide some feedback so that we can improve them together.

> Also, Shift-Ins (paste) is not working. I prefer that over Ctrl-V. So, thank 
> you for the off switch as well :)

Again, I think this is a bug, but you are reporting it as if it is an intrinsic 
problem with the editor toolbar.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

> 
> --R.
> 
> 
> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 1:16:02 PM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> Hi Rustem 
> 
> > In Firefox, both Windows and Linux, I get this. Tested with a new profile, 
> > as well as on another person's machine - same result. 
> 
> Great, thank you. Fixed here: 
> 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/e54cc7b211e10df5048b85a30ebea42e6f885a54
>  
> 
>  
> 
> I’ve uploaded a new prerelease too, 
> 
> Best wishes 
> 
> Jeremy. 
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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyDesktop v0.0.7

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Dave

> I have three questions about hacking tiddlydesktop to work better for my use 
> case:

In fact, all these questions apply generally to the Node.js configuration of 
TiddlyWiki.

> 1) Is there any way to change something in an editable file to make the 
> "tiddler" folder to be called something else? (in my case I'd like it to be 
> called "data" - that's where I already keep my hundreds of text files)

As things stand, that could only be done by hacking the TW source code; the 
result would be a unique fork of TiddlyWiki that was incompatible with the main 
core. You may be able to use symlinks to achieve the same effect, though.

> 2) Can I also somehow change the ".tid" extension of the tiddler files to be 
> ".txt”?

The trouble is that `.txt` files are already defined to contain plain text 
tiddlers. Redefining the meaning of the extension would thus break existing 
references to .txt files.

> 3) For multi-word tiddlers, can the file have spaces in the name instead of 
> "word_word”?

TW will happily process tiddler files with spaces within the filename, despite 
the fact that the default processing for new tiddler files replaces spaces with 
underscores. That default processing could be extended to be more customisable.

Generally, these are tricky questions! TiddlyWiki is infinitely hackable 
because ultimately it’s just a bunch of text files. But hacking your way too 
far from the core will tend to make it harder for you to take advantage of 
updates and extensions from the community.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


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Re: [tw] [tw5] Final tests for 5.1.12 before release

[Pit.W.]

+1


yes please!


Am 10.05.2016 um 02:04 schrieb PMario:
wish: make the toolbar sticky, even if it causes problems with some 
browsers.


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Re: [tw] Re: [tw5] Text-Slicer Plugin

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi LG

> I took the sample text I posted previously and used Sublime to add break tags 
> between each paragraph. When outputted in slicer, I got: 

 tags are not recognised as paragraph markers; it’s intentional because the 
role of  in HTML is essentially to permit one to type a linebreak within a 
paragraph. You’ll need to wrap the paragraphs in  tags.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

> 
> All the text which is not a header in one chunk
> Heading 1
> Heading 2
> So on...
> Best, 
> 
> LG
> 
> On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 2:32:24 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> Hi Amanda
> 
>> Here's a completely random bit of text I just generated
> 
> Terrific random text if I may say so.
> 
>> which matches the format of my real document. It has the headers + plain 
>> paragraphs with line breaks in-between. This was created in Sublime text 
>> editor. I then pasted it and split it. As expected, each paragraph was its 
>> own tiddler. 
> 
> The sample lacks  tags around the paragraphs. I tried pasting the text as 
> it is into both a text/html tiddler and an ordinary wikitext tiddler. In both 
> cases, the broken markup prevents things from working properly.
> 
> I added  tags around the paragraphs (attached). Processing the result as 
> text/html does have the expected output of a separate tiddler for each 
> heading and for paragraph.
> 
> If that’s looking like it’s going to generate too many tiddlers for your 
> texts, then the best approach may be to extend the text-slicer plugin with 
> more options, so that we could have a tiddler for each heading plus it’s 
> immediate text.
> 
> I won’t have time to explore that for a while. The other option would be to 
> preprocess your texts to merge contiguous paragraphs, putting a couple of 
> s in between.
> 
>> Btw, I must say I'm overwhelmed and impressed by the community. I posted 
>> some questions in a few places online regarding other plugins. Everyone 
>> answered within 24 hours. It just blew me away. I'm used to the less 
>> friendly communities of major CMS software apps…
> 
> Thank you — from my perspective the community is also what makes doing this 
> such fun.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy
> 
>> 
>> Best, 
>> 
> 
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Re: [tw] Set widget attributes remotely?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mat

Just to confirm that, yes, transcluding widget attributes is pretty efficient.

Best wishes

Jeremy

> On 11 May 2016, at 17:07, Mat  wrote:
> 
> Mario, Jeremy, thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> We generally introduce transclusions when we identify a portion of a shadow 
> tiddler that would benefit from being independently controllable. For 
> example, look at the change to add configurability to the autofocus attribute 
> of the sidebar search:
> 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/a89ae45188733fdfa7660175db2096dda86a5e34
>  
> 
> 
> Ref the above discussions here, how costly is this operation? I.e that of 
> fetching a value via transclusion rather than on spot. I don't know the 
> mechanics behind transclusion per se but I figure fetching values "elsewhere" 
> is done all the time and should be pretty polished. 
> 
>  
> I think you’re asking for the ability to perform those sort of overrides 
> without modifying the tiddler in question. There’s no obvious way to 
> implement such a feature. But I’d be concerned about the resulting 
> complexity: with this arrangement, it wouldn’t be sufficient to look at the 
> source of a particular tiddler in order to understand what it’s doing; one 
> would also need to find and review all the overrides that might affect the 
> operation of the tiddler.
> 
> Yeah.. that would be a concern.  (Interesting thoughts just sparked; imagine 
> making every parameter value be a pointer to a central registry. OR, another 
> idea, or maybe it's a continuation; imagine another "viewing layer" in 
> edit-mode so that the parameter value is really a parsed value but underneath 
> it is the transclusion. Or mayb eno "extra layer" would be needed if one 
> could just see the parsed values in normal view mode. Ok, I gotto sleep. 
> Forgive me if this didn't make sense.)
> 
> 
> Thank you both for informative replies!
> 
> <:-)
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Re: [tw] Re: TEXtAREA is totally open to external editors. NEVER forge4t that.

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Alex

There is a Sublime Text 3 plugin for TiddlyWiki:

http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#TiddlyWiki%20extensions%20for%20Sublime%20Text%203%20by%20roma0104

The main thing it provides is syntax highlighting for .tid files.

Best wishes

Jeremy



> On 12 May 2016, at 02:39, Alex Hough  wrote:
> 
> I asked the question about external editors
> 
> I am using Chrome and Node.js
> I wondered about editing .tid files in Sublime and the possiblity of an 
> plugin for Sublime to make .tid files.
> 
> I am not aware of a Chrome plugin for this function
> 
> Alex
> 
> On 12 May 2016 at 01:25, infurnoape  > wrote:
> I want to know about the other thing?!?
> 
> 
> 
> Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: proge...@assays.tv  
> Date: 5/11/16 2:44 PM (GMT-07:00) 
> To: TiddlyWiki  > 
> Subject: [tw] Re: TEXtAREA is totally open to external editors. NEVER forge4t 
> that. 
> 
>  My tiddly friend, you should probably start the other TW blog. You're making 
> valid points but many of them are kind of "general insights" ... etc.
> 
> WE are ephemeral. 
> 
> I am interested in ME. 
> 
> The TW5 editor IS good. 
> 
> Ask  if you want to know about the other things.
> 
> J.
> 
> On Wednesday, 11 May 2016 23:13:28 UTC+2, Mat wrote:
> My tiddly friend, you should probably start a TW blog. You're making valid 
> points but many of them are kind of "general insights" so people will forget 
> them and (for sure) a week from now they're gone in the archives. I'd say it 
> is extremely unlikely that anybody would search for an insight like the one 
> you just posted, even if it - again - is valid. Personally my outlet for 
> these types of thoughts (and much more) is TWaddle 
> . It is convenient also; I can refer to 
> articles there when the occasions arise.
> 
> <:-)
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Re: [tw] Re: Text-slicer error

[Jeremy Ruston]

Thanks Peuhpeuh and Mark

Fixed here:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/c5ac10024b79881b14b2c3fc2e8569447a036003

I’ve loaded a new prerelease to http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease

Best wishes

Jeremy.


> On 12 May 2016, at 08:00, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki 
>  wrote:
> 
> Me too.
> 
> Firefox 43.0.1 and Pale Moon 25.8.1 on Windows 7.
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 2:01:20 AM UTC-7, peuhpeuh singe wrote:
> When I try to use the text slicer icon at 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/editions/text-slicer/index.htm,l I get the 
> following message error: 
>  
> "
> Internal JavaScript Error
> 
> Well, this is embarrassing. It is recommended that you restart TiddlyWiki by 
> refreshing your browser
> TypeError: event.paramObject is undefined
> "
> 
> does anyone knows how I can handle this ?
> 
> thks in advance.
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[tw] Re: Text-slicer error

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Me too.

Firefox 43.0.1 and Pale Moon 25.8.1 on Windows 7.

Mark

On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 2:01:20 AM UTC-7, peuhpeuh singe wrote:
>
> When I try to use the text slicer icon at http://tiddlywiki.com/
> prerelease/editions/text-slicer/index.htm,l I get the following message 
> error: 
>
> 
> "
> Internal JavaScript Error
> Well, this is embarrassing. It is recommended that you restart TiddlyWiki 
> by refreshing your browser
> TypeError: event.paramObject is undefined
> "
>
> does anyone knows how I can handle this ?
>
> thks in advance.
>

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[tw] Text-slicer error

[peuhpeuh singe]

When I try to use the text slicer icon at http://tiddlywiki.com/
prerelease/editions/text-slicer/index.htm,l I get the following message 
error: 

"
Internal JavaScript Error
Well, this is embarrassing. It is recommended that you restart TiddlyWiki 
by refreshing your browser
TypeError: event.paramObject is undefined
"

does anyone knows how I can handle this ?

thks in advance.

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Re: [tw] Re: TEXtAREA is totally open to external editors. NEVER forge4t that.

[Alex Hough]

I asked the question about external editors

I am using Chrome and Node.js
I wondered about editing .tid files in Sublime and the possiblity of an
plugin for Sublime to make .tid files.

I am not aware of a Chrome plugin for this function

Alex

On 12 May 2016 at 01:25, infurnoape  wrote:

> I want to know about the other thing?!?
>
>
>
> Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: proge...@assays.tv
> Date: 5/11/16 2:44 PM (GMT-07:00)
> To: TiddlyWiki 
> Subject: [tw] Re: TEXtAREA is totally open to external editors. NEVER
> forge4t that.
>
> My tiddly friend, you should probably start the other TW blog. You're
> making valid points but many of them are kind of "general insights" ... etc.
>
> WE are ephemeral.
>
> I am interested in ME.
>
> The TW5 editor IS good.
>
> Ask  if you want to know about the other things.
>
> J.
>
> On Wednesday, 11 May 2016 23:13:28 UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>>
>> My tiddly friend, you should probably start a TW blog. You're making
>> valid points but many of them are kind of "general insights" so people will
>> forget them and (for sure) a week from now they're gone in the archives.
>> I'd say it is extremely unlikely that anybody would search for an insight
>> like the one you just posted, even if it - again - is valid. Personally my
>> outlet for these types of thoughts (and much more) is TWaddle
>> . It is convenient also; I can refer to
>> articles there when the occasions arise.
>>
>> <:-)
>>
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