[tw] Re: Tobias' Delete All Tiddlers By Filter

2017-08-15 Thread TonyM
Mario,

Actually your bundler pluginhttps://wikilabs.github.io/editions/bundler/ 
.goes a long way to showing how you can reduce the effect or stray filters 
by counting the number of tiddlers selected. I could see an option to 
delete the same filtered set of tiddlers after export. This would mean 
forcing a group of tiddlers to be exported before deletion so there will be 
no regrets. I used to do that in TWC exporting TRASHED items before I 
emptied the Trash.

PS Condolences on the loss of a HD. Very sad event. :)

Tony

.

On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 9:52:55 PM UTC+10, PMario wrote:
>
> On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 1:17:25 PM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> IMO if you don't constantly backup your TW you are asking for 
>> trouble--sooner or later.
>>
>
> That's right. ... 3 weeks ago my win HD died. Luckily I did back up the 
> data partition some days earlier. Now I have a physical system and 2 
> mirrored data drives. plus the existing backup solution :)
>  
>
>> I have experienced a couple of macros that ATE MY WIKI. 
>>
>
> Then you know what I mean :)
>  
>
>> I'm not sure that the line of defence is to NOT give us The Powerful 
>> Wizard Of Utility. But, rather, perhaps, to deliver the Wizard with levels 
>> of warnings ... (1) Do NOT do this unless you have a backup. So don't blame 
>> me if it eats your Wiki. (2) Are you REALLY sure you want to do this?
>>
>
> That's exactly the point. 
>
> As a developer I don't want to do harm. So if I would release a plugin 
> that can have destructive side effects, I need / want to take care, that 
> the user knows, what is going on. So it needs to be configurable: Similar 
> to the "bundler plugin 
> ".
>  
> Bundler even doesn't delete stuff, but imports can overwrite existing 
> tiddlers ... 
>
>  
>
>> There needs to be room for brave people too.
>>
>
> Sure. ... If there wouldn't be murphy's law: "Anything that can go wrong 
> will go wrong!"
>
> At the moment we don't have a "tm-ask-and-delete-message" needed for your 
> "(2) Are you REALLY sure you want to do this?" ... At least I think there 
> isn't. ... So may be we need one. ... But for my personal usage the 
> security questions would need to be switched off. ... because I hate popups 
> ;)
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
>

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[tw] Re: [INTRO] Tiddler Bundle Plugin

2017-08-15 Thread TonyM
Mario,

I think my question may have led you down a more complex path than I 
intended. Your developer mind took a hold. I am thinking more of a practice 
and procedural solution. For example using the tag used to select tiddlers 
for inclusion to indicate the tiddlywiki that owns the tiddlers. Since I 
have some ideas of my own I will learn about your solution more deeply and 
return with what I find. Then perhaps if there are any outstanding 
questions I will be in a better position to ask questions. Or I will simply 
share what I discover.

Thanks
Tony

On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 10:17:32 PM UTC+10, PMario wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 3:15:17 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
>> I have some rudimentary tagging and fields to indicate which tiddlywiki 
>> owns which tiddler and which tiddlywikis include the tiddlers owned my 
>> another wiki?
>>
>
> That's the tricky part. 
> It makes it a many-to-many relationship in "database speak", which isn't 
> easy to resolve, without at least one more "lookup table"
>  
>
>> My Question to you Mario with a deeper knowledge of your bundling plugin 
>> how would you flag and manage within a bundle the concept of a source or 
>> owner tiddlywiki for a bundle, its tiddlers and the widdlywiki's that use 
>> the shared tiddlers from various bundles?
>>
>
> IMO a bundle config tiddler is similar to a recipe, how to build the 
> bundle.json file. ... 
> So what we probably need here is a recipe of recipes for exporting from 
> NAS-master.html to several NASTiddlers-for-targetX.json
>
> From within the browser, this won't be possible without new javscript. But 
> this would move the plugin away from it's generic nature. So I'm reluctant 
> with this approach. ... similar to the commenting prefix that Josiah 
> requested. 
>
>  ... But may be it can be accomplished from the TW command line build 
> system. ... BUT I'm not really sure here. ... more testing would be needed. 
>  
>
>> Thanks in advance Mario
>> And thanks for all you contributions which are valued
>>
>
> You are welcome. 
>
> have fun!
> mario
>

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[tw] see what tiddlers use a field

2017-08-15 Thread Silvercat
I'm sure there's an easy way but I can't figure it out. Is there a way to 
search for all tiddlers that use a specific field (with anything any it)?

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[tw] removing unused fields?

2017-08-15 Thread Silvercat
I've got a couple user fields that aren't used by any tiddlers, but they're 
showing up in the control panel and I can't figure out how to get rid of 
them.

Thanks

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[tw] Re: Need drag'n drop like tagpills but w/o tags

2017-08-15 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
That's a great idea -- I humbly withdraw my suggestion about export files.

Mark

On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 3:30:22 PM UTC-7, ste...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Updated and corrected reply (I'm going to delete my earlier post due to a 
> small error). 
>
> Regarding my suggestion below: If you don't like buttons, you could try 
> this instead (replace "[enlist...]" with the titles of all the tiddlers you 
> want to drag and drop in double square brackets with a space in between, or 
> with a reference to a list of tiddlers stored elsewhere):
>
> <$draggable filter="[enlist{$:/StoryList!!list}]">
> Drag and drop current story list
> 
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 10:58:23 PM UTC+2, ste...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> This code, for example, makes the entire content of the current story 
>> river draggable:
>>
>> <$button dragFilter="[enlist{$:/StoryList!!list}]">
>> Drag and drop current story list
>> 
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Need drag'n drop like tagpills but w/o tags

2017-08-15 Thread stefct4
Updated and corrected reply (I'm going to delete my earlier post due to a 
small error). 

Regarding my suggestion below: f you don't like buttons, you could try this 
instead (replace "[enlist...]" with the titles of all the tiddlers you want 
to drag and drop in double square brackets with a space in between, or with 
a reference to a list of tiddlers stored elsewhere):

<$draggable filter="[enlist{$:/StoryList!!list}]">
Drag and drop current story list



On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 10:58:23 PM UTC+2, ste...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> This code, for example, makes the entire content of the current story 
> river draggable:
>
> <$button dragFilter="[enlist{$:/StoryList!!list}]">
> Drag and drop current story list
> 
>
>

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[tw] Re: Need drag'n drop like tagpills but w/o tags

2017-08-15 Thread stefct4
Or, if you don't like buttons, you could try this instead (replace 
"[enlist...]" with the titles of all the tiddlers you want to drag and drop 
in square brackets with a space in between, or with a reference to a list 
of tiddlers stored elsewhere):

<$draggable filter="[enlist{$:/StoryList!!list}]">
Drag and drop current story list



On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 10:58:23 PM UTC+2, ste...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> This code, for example, makes the entire content of the current story 
> river draggable:
>
> <$button dragFilter="[enlist{$:/StoryList!!list}]">
> Drag and drop current story list
> 
>
>

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[tw] Re: Need drag'n drop like tagpills but w/o tags

2017-08-15 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
If you exported (perhaps using Marios bundler) a set of tiddlers, then put 
links to the export packages, couldn't people just drag and drop them into 
their tiddlers?

Have fun,
Mark

On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 12:37:16 PM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>
> Desired end result: "Handles" that the visitor drags'n drops into his own 
> TW to get an arbitrary but predefined load of tiddlers.
>
> The new drag'n drop Tags functionality is very close... BUT it requires 
> that everything is tagged with that tag. This is problematic in e.g the 
> following use case:
>
> The Graphs  "framework", relies on Thomas 
> Elmigers rpn plugin 
> . I 
> want to serve *one single handle per graph*, i.e so that visitors can do 
> a single drag'n drop operation into their TW to get everything they need 
> for that particular graph type. This is currently not possible without 
> modifying Thomas' plugin (i.e add a tag to it), which I don't feel 
> comfortable with.
>
> So, the question is how to make such a non-intrusive single-handle for an 
> arbitrary set of tiddlers, including plugins.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> <:-)
>
>
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: Need drag'n drop like tagpills but w/o tags

2017-08-15 Thread stefct4
Hi Mat,

On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 9:37:16 PM UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>
> Desired end result: "Handles" that the visitor drags'n drops into his own 
> TW to get an arbitrary but predefined load of tiddlers.
>

Did you try the ButtonWidget together with the "dragFilter" attribute? 
http://tiddlywiki.com/#ButtonWidget 

This code, for example, makes the entire content of the current story river 
draggable:

<$button dragFilter="[enlist{$:/StoryList!!list}]">
Drag and drop current story list


Cheers,

Stef

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[tw] Re: [INTRO] Tiddler Bundle Plugin

2017-08-15 Thread PMario
On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 9:12:04 PM UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>
> 1) I miss a brief introductory paragraph about what it achieves. (I 
> personally think I know... kind of but not sure... but many others don't at 
> all, of course.)
>

You are right. There's plenty of room to improve the docs. 
 

> 1b) ...or maybe I'm missing something: GettingStarted 
>  says 
> "Documentation 
> and more can be found at: https://wikilabs.github.io/#bundler; - but I 
> don't find documentation there.
>

bug. wrong link
 

> 2) I vaguely recall discussion about whether bundling could also serve as 
> "handles" for drag'n drop between TWs, rather than export to local. 
>

Not really. The drag mechanism doesn't know anything about bundles. So 
if you drag a bundle tiddler link, it would just use it as a standard 
single tiddler.
 

> How does Bundler behave in this regard? 
>

It doesn't change the core d mechanism. 
 

> 3) Is there a particular reason why the bundles list is in static format, 
> rather than with tiddler links?
>

readability. If you remove the tiddler type-field you'll see what happens. 

There are 2 possibilities. 

 - a list of tiddlers ... space separated or new-line separated. 
   I used new-line, because it improves readability with type: text/plain

 - Advanced search - filter format. 
   I did implement it that way, to be compatible with the core. 
   see: existing tiddlers tagged: $:/tags/Filter at tiddlywiki.com
 

> Thank you for your wonderful contributions, Mario!
>
 
you are welcome!

have fun!
mario

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Re: [tw] Re: More elegant way of doing this lexicon?

2017-08-15 Thread Silvercat
Awesome. Thank you! 

On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 11:49:55 AM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Yes. The filter needs to change. You can try this for the list-based 
> english fields:
>
> <$list filter="[tag[Lexeme]each:list-item[english]sort[]addprefix[en-]]">
>
> HTH
> Mark
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 11:22:22 AM UTC-7, Silvercat wrote:
>>
>> > Is there a data-based reason that you couldn't put all the words in a 
>> single english list field (e.g. [[film]] [[dust]] ... etc.)  ?
>>
>>
>> Nope. The only reason I did it that way (English, english1, english2) is 
>> cuz I don't know what I'm doing. It looks like there needs to be a change 
>> to the filter because when I do that stuff doesn't show up. That or user 
>> error (my guess is user error).
>>
>>
>> joztiizz
>> english [[wrong]] [[evil]]
>> tags  Quality j Lexeme IrregularNoun IrregularCombo Translation Morality 
>> Culture ComboType3 NounType1  
>>
>>
>> en-evil
>> caption Evil
>> nyji [[joztiizz]]
>> tags english Morality
>>
>>
>> en-wrong
>> caption Wrong
>> nyji [[joztiizz]]
>> tags Quality Morality English
>>
>>
>> BTW, Mark, do you have a type jar or paypal somewhere? Seems the least I 
>> can do is buy you a coffee or equivalent.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 8:40:34 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>> The problem is that the those items in the nyji language don't have 
>>> 'english' fields -- they have english1 and english2 fields. You can fix 
>>> this in the short term by extending the filter:
>>>
>>> [tag[Lexeme]each[english]get[english]]  
>>> [tag[Lexeme]each[english1]get[english1]]  
>>> [tag[Lexeme]each[english2]get[english2]]  +[addprefix[en-]sort[]]
>>>
>>> The complication is ... is there an upper limit to the english[n] 
>>> fields? 
>>>
>>> Is there a data-based reason that you couldn't put all the words in a 
>>> single english list field (e.g. [[film]] [[dust]] ... etc.)  ?
>>>
>>> When you use the filter above, "film" will still not appear because 
>>> neither of the words you have for film (chachykmaŋnyki chiwkiŋam) have 
>>> english, english1, or english2 fields containing the word "film".
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 6:08:41 PM UTC-7, Silvercat wrote:

 Any idea why film and evil aren't showing up in EnglishIndex? 
 https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2AstAs9QlRjSnhvU1ktWGF0c28 

 I'm sure it's user error, but I can't see any difference between those 
 two and the three (cat, here, and wrong) that are showing up.

 On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 11:17:47 AM UTC-7, Silvercat wrote:

> Thanks! That helps a lot.
>
> > About filters, did you look at the tiddler "Introduction to filter 
> notation" at Tiddlywiki.com ? I'm sure it's simpler than Ŋyjichɯn
>
> You overestimate my conlanging skills. :D
>
>>

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[tw] Need drag'n drop like tagpills but w/o tags

2017-08-15 Thread Mat
Desired end result: "Handles" that the visitor drags'n drops into his own 
TW to get an arbitrary but predefined load of tiddlers.

The new drag'n drop Tags functionality is very close... BUT it requires 
that everything is tagged with that tag. This is problematic in e.g the 
following use case:

The Graphs  "framework", relies on Thomas 
Elmigers rpn plugin 
. I want 
to serve *one single handle per graph*, i.e so that visitors can do a 
single drag'n drop operation into their TW to get everything they need for 
that particular graph type. This is currently not possible without 
modifying Thomas' plugin (i.e add a tag to it), which I don't feel 
comfortable with.

So, the question is how to make such a non-intrusive single-handle for an 
arbitrary set of tiddlers, including plugins.

Thoughts?

<:-)




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[tw] Re: [INTRO] Tiddler Bundle Plugin

2017-08-15 Thread Mat
@pmario

A few thoughts;

1) I miss a brief introductory paragraph about what it achieves. (I 
personally think I know... kind of but not sure... but many others don't at 
all, of course.)
1b) ...or maybe I'm missing something: GettingStarted 
 says 
"Documentation 
and more can be found at: https://wikilabs.github.io/#bundler; - but I 
don't find documentation there.
2) I vaguely recall discussion about whether bundling could also serve as 
"handles" for drag'n drop between TWs, rather than export to local. How 
does Bundler behave in this regard? 
3) Is there a particular reason why the bundles list is in static format, 
rather than with tiddler links?

Thank you for your wonderful contributions, Mario!

<:-)

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Re: [tw] Re: More elegant way of doing this lexicon?

2017-08-15 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Yes. The filter needs to change. You can try this for the list-based 
english fields:

<$list filter="[tag[Lexeme]each:list-item[english]sort[]addprefix[en-]]">

HTH
Mark

On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 11:22:22 AM UTC-7, Silvercat wrote:
>
> > Is there a data-based reason that you couldn't put all the words in a 
> single english list field (e.g. [[film]] [[dust]] ... etc.)  ?
>
>
> Nope. The only reason I did it that way (English, english1, english2) is 
> cuz I don't know what I'm doing. It looks like there needs to be a change 
> to the filter because when I do that stuff doesn't show up. That or user 
> error (my guess is user error).
>
>
> joztiizz
> english [[wrong]] [[evil]]
> tags  Quality j Lexeme IrregularNoun IrregularCombo Translation Morality 
> Culture ComboType3 NounType1  
>
>
> en-evil
> caption Evil
> nyji [[joztiizz]]
> tags english Morality
>
>
> en-wrong
> caption Wrong
> nyji [[joztiizz]]
> tags Quality Morality English
>
>
> BTW, Mark, do you have a type jar or paypal somewhere? Seems the least I 
> can do is buy you a coffee or equivalent.
>
>
>
> On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 8:40:34 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>
>> The problem is that the those items in the nyji language don't have 
>> 'english' fields -- they have english1 and english2 fields. You can fix 
>> this in the short term by extending the filter:
>>
>> [tag[Lexeme]each[english]get[english]]  
>> [tag[Lexeme]each[english1]get[english1]]  
>> [tag[Lexeme]each[english2]get[english2]]  +[addprefix[en-]sort[]]
>>
>> The complication is ... is there an upper limit to the english[n] fields? 
>>
>> Is there a data-based reason that you couldn't put all the words in a 
>> single english list field (e.g. [[film]] [[dust]] ... etc.)  ?
>>
>> When you use the filter above, "film" will still not appear because 
>> neither of the words you have for film (chachykmaŋnyki chiwkiŋam) have 
>> english, english1, or english2 fields containing the word "film".
>>
>> Good luck!
>> Mark
>>
>> On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 6:08:41 PM UTC-7, Silvercat wrote:
>>>
>>> Any idea why film and evil aren't showing up in EnglishIndex? 
>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2AstAs9QlRjSnhvU1ktWGF0c28 
>>>
>>> I'm sure it's user error, but I can't see any difference between those 
>>> two and the three (cat, here, and wrong) that are showing up.
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 11:17:47 AM UTC-7, Silvercat wrote:
>>>
 Thanks! That helps a lot.

 > About filters, did you look at the tiddler "Introduction to filter 
 notation" at Tiddlywiki.com ? I'm sure it's simpler than Ŋyjichɯn

 You overestimate my conlanging skills. :D

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Re: [tw] Re: More elegant way of doing this lexicon?

2017-08-15 Thread Silvercat


> Is there a data-based reason that you couldn't put all the words in a 
single english list field (e.g. [[film]] [[dust]] ... etc.)  ?


Nope. The only reason I did it that way (English, english1, english2) is 
cuz I don't know what I'm doing. It looks like there needs to be a change 
to the filter because when I do that stuff doesn't show up. That or user 
error (my guess is user error).


joztiizz
english [[wrong]] [[evil]]
tags  Quality j Lexeme IrregularNoun IrregularCombo Translation Morality 
Culture ComboType3 NounType1  


en-evil
caption Evil
nyji [[joztiizz]]
tags english Morality


en-wrong
caption Wrong
nyji [[joztiizz]]
tags Quality Morality English


BTW, Mark, do you have a type jar or paypal somewhere? Seems the least I 
can do is buy you a coffee or equivalent.



On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 8:40:34 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:

> The problem is that the those items in the nyji language don't have 
> 'english' fields -- they have english1 and english2 fields. You can fix 
> this in the short term by extending the filter:
>
> [tag[Lexeme]each[english]get[english]]  
> [tag[Lexeme]each[english1]get[english1]]  
> [tag[Lexeme]each[english2]get[english2]]  +[addprefix[en-]sort[]]
>
> The complication is ... is there an upper limit to the english[n] fields? 
>
> Is there a data-based reason that you couldn't put all the words in a 
> single english list field (e.g. [[film]] [[dust]] ... etc.)  ?
>
> When you use the filter above, "film" will still not appear because 
> neither of the words you have for film (chachykmaŋnyki chiwkiŋam) have 
> english, english1, or english2 fields containing the word "film".
>
> Good luck!
> Mark
>
> On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 6:08:41 PM UTC-7, Silvercat wrote:
>>
>> Any idea why film and evil aren't showing up in EnglishIndex? 
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2AstAs9QlRjSnhvU1ktWGF0c28 
>>
>> I'm sure it's user error, but I can't see any difference between those 
>> two and the three (cat, here, and wrong) that are showing up.
>>
>> On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 11:17:47 AM UTC-7, Silvercat wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks! That helps a lot.
>>>
>>> > About filters, did you look at the tiddler "Introduction to filter 
>>> notation" at Tiddlywiki.com ? I'm sure it's simpler than Ŋyjichɯn
>>>
>>> You overestimate my conlanging skills. :D
>>>


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Re: [tw] node.js questions...

2017-08-15 Thread Steven Schneider
oh! ok! thanks Jeremy.

I didn't know I could run a series of commands like that in a shell file,
so that's a bonus :)

//steve.

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Jeremy Ruston 
wrote:

> Hi Steve
>
> On 15 Aug 2017, at 16:29, Steven Schneider  wrote:
>
> Right now, I"m trying to build a new wiki from empty and add a few
> tiddlers, by running a bash script. My script has this line:
>
> tiddlywiki new --verbose --init empty --load new-tiddlers.json --build
> index
>
>
> It’s probably a bug that you don’t receive a warning, but you need to
> perform the init as a separate command:
>
> tiddlywiki new --verbose --init empty
> tiddlywiki new --verbose --load new-tiddlers.json --build index
>
> It’s only when the second command starts up that it is able to read the
> initialisation information stored by the —init command.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
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[tw] Re: Presenting: GRAPHS - pies, bars, scatter and whatever turns you on

2017-08-15 Thread 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki
That, pretty much, takes care of my issue. Now I'm off and running toward 
looking at it.

Not to be real picky about this... but I noticed that on the install sheet 
you added likert but lost line. And for what it is worth, x-axis and y-axis 
are also required to get the Demo-Line to work properly. You might consider 
adding the x-axis and y-axis items to the Line tag as well.

Stephen

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[tw] Re: Presenting: GRAPHS - pies, bars, scatter and whatever turns you on

2017-08-15 Thread Mat
Update 


   - Likert scales 
   - Added a missing tag that caused the problems identified by Stephen 
   (Thank you Stephen!!!)
   - Updated to latest rpn, i.e the "basic math calculations" macro by 
   Thomas Elmiger (Big thanks Thomas!!!)
   - Pies  can now handle >50%. 
   Thanks (again) go to Thomas even if I ended up using another, more 
   contextual, method to achieve it.
   (Unfortunately, my >50% solution sacrificed the pretty box-shading that 
   gave the pie a 3d look. Not crucial, but still. I'll probably make future 
   attempts to get it back but it is not prioritized.)

Do keep ideas / opinions on Graphs coming.

Note that "graphs" is not limited to show... well, graphs; The "engine" 
just visually presents numerical (or other) data from a list of tiddlers, 
where the data set can be treated as a whole or at the individual level. If 
you have any "related" tiddlers, graphs might be of use to *present* them. 
For example, I'd think(!) one could use it to illustrate

   - Board games, such as chess
   - Perhaps make exploded views of things, where each thing is a tiddler
   - ...more ideas?


<:-)

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Re: [tw] node.js questions...

2017-08-15 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Steve

> On 15 Aug 2017, at 16:29, Steven Schneider  wrote:
> 
> Right now, I"m trying to build a new wiki from empty and add a few tiddlers, 
> by running a bash script. My script has this line:
> 
> tiddlywiki new --verbose --init empty --load new-tiddlers.json --build index

It’s probably a bug that you don’t receive a warning, but you need to perform 
the init as a separate command:

tiddlywiki new --verbose --init empty
tiddlywiki new --verbose --load new-tiddlers.json --build index

It’s only when the second command starts up that it is able to read the 
initialisation information stored by the —init command.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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[tw] node.js questions...

2017-08-15 Thread Steven Schneider
Hello folks,

I'm trying to figure out node.js. 

Right now, I"m trying to build a new wiki from empty and add a few 
tiddlers, by running a bash script. My script has this line:

tiddlywiki new --verbose --init empty --load new-tiddlers.json --build index

My intentions are to (1) create a new empty wiki in the /new subdirectory 
of the current directory   (2) load a few tiddlers from a json file and (3) 
create a new index.html file in the default output directory.

I get this response (below), which indicates to me that the init and the 
load work, but the build does not.

Thanks!

//steve.



Boot log:

  Startup task: load-modules

  Startup task: info after: load-modules before: startup

  Startup task: startup after: load-modules

  Startup task: story after: startup

  Startup task: commands platforms: node after: story

Executing command: init empty

Copied edition 'empty' to new

Executing command: load new-tiddlers.json

Executing command: build index


$:/core/modules/commands/build.js:27

var buildTargets = $tw.boot.wikiInfo.build;

^

TypeError: Cannot read property 'build' of null

at Command.execute ($:/core/modules/commands/build.js:27:38)

at Commander.executeNextCommand ($:/core/modules/commander.js:100:14)

at Command.callback ($:/core/modules/commander.js:112:13)

at Command.execute ($:/core/modules/commands/load.js:46:8)

at Commander.executeNextCommand ($:/core/modules/commander.js:115:14)

at Commander.executeNextCommand ($:/core/modules/commander.js:104:12)

at Commander.executeNextCommand ($:/core/modules/commander.js:104:12)

at Commander.execute ($:/core/modules/commander.js:64:7)

at Object.exports.startup ($:/core/modules/startup/commands.js:34:12)

at $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask 
(/usr/local/lib/node_modules/tiddlywiki/boot/boot.js:2069:10)

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[tw] Re: [INTRO] Tiddler Bundle Plugin

2017-08-15 Thread PMario
On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 3:15:17 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:

> I have some rudimentary tagging and fields to indicate which tiddlywiki 
> owns which tiddler and which tiddlywikis include the tiddlers owned my 
> another wiki?
>

That's the tricky part. 
It makes it a many-to-many relationship in "database speak", which isn't 
easy to resolve, without at least one more "lookup table"
 

> My Question to you Mario with a deeper knowledge of your bundling plugin 
> how would you flag and manage within a bundle the concept of a source or 
> owner tiddlywiki for a bundle, its tiddlers and the widdlywiki's that use 
> the shared tiddlers from various bundles?
>

IMO a bundle config tiddler is similar to a recipe, how to build the 
bundle.json file. ... 
So what we probably need here is a recipe of recipes for exporting from 
NAS-master.html to several NASTiddlers-for-targetX.json

>From within the browser, this won't be possible without new javscript. But 
this would move the plugin away from it's generic nature. So I'm reluctant 
with this approach. ... similar to the commenting prefix that Josiah 
requested. 

 ... But may be it can be accomplished from the TW command line build 
system. ... BUT I'm not really sure here. ... more testing would be needed. 
 

> Thanks in advance Mario
> And thanks for all you contributions which are valued
>

You are welcome. 

have fun!
mario

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Re: [tw] [TW5] New SimpleCheckList Plugin with Drag and Drop

2017-08-15 Thread FrD


Le vendredi 11 août 2017 14:25:59 UTC+2, Jeebus K a écrit :
>
> I don't understand the instructions,
>
> How to call the macro
>> Each checklist needs a "state" tiddler to keep its data
>
>
>
Hi Jeebus,

The checklist macro needs a place to record a lot of things about the state 
of the checklist. So I chose to use a tiddler for this task. I called it 
"state" tiddler because it's there that the state of the checklist is 
maintained.
If you want you can display the state tiddler of a list and see what 
happens when you check an item, or enable another one or disable, or even 
edit an item.

Regards
FrD

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