[tw] Re: [TW5] PanFlex Layout

[BurningTreeC]

> Love it,
>
> This would be a great option on tiddlywikis where it could be toggled. 
> Especially if it were possible to select
>
> 
> l  m r 
> 
>
> or even better 
>
> tttR
> l  m  R
> lb
>
> etc
>

Thanks Tony,
That's a very good idea, but also very very complicated to do the way I'm 
doing it (which is anarcho-freestyle)
I've come to a point where the stylesheet is that complicated that I fear 
to change it
It needs to be restructured into logically connected blocks, then it could 
be possible to make more layout variants happen

>
> Thus except for columns within tiddlers this covers the vast majority of 
> layouts we could ask for.
>

I could add a viewtemplate for tiddlers that looks the same as the page 
layout, how about that?

>
> Great Work.
>
> Tony
>
 
>
 BTC

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[tw] Re: [TW5] PanFlex Layout

[TonyM]

Love it,

This would be a great option on tiddlywikis where it could be toggled. 
Especially if it were possible to select


l  m r 


or even better 

tttR
l  m  R
lb

etc

Thus except for columns within tiddlers this covers the vast majority of 
layouts we could ask for.

Great Work.

Tony


On Friday, March 2, 2018 at 7:02:46 AM UTC+11, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hello folks,
>
> I'm tweaking on a Layout concept called *PanFlex *on 
> http://panflex.tiddlyspot.com - it still has some quirks -
> But I'll show it off anyway ;)
>
> This concept uses my pan widget to create 4 draggable bars around the 
> story river that let you show and hide a left- top- right- and bottom panel
> Each panel can hold the content you like by tagging tiddlers with: 
> $:/tags/LeftBar $:/tags/TopBar $:/tags/BottomBar ... the right bar is the 
> sidebar and remains untouched 'cause it's a holy cow
>
> If you like to take a look and test, I'd appreciate if you let me know if 
> you find it useful and especially if you discover some errors and quirks
>
> The stylesheet and calculations a pretty complex and I hope I can fix the 
> remaining bugs soon
>
> All the best,
>
> BurningTreeC
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] PanFlex Layout

[@TiddlyTweeter]

I get it on FF 52 (after clearing cache). I'll try other browsers now 

Google chrome latest, no problem. TiddlyDesktop (chrome again) no problem.

Maybe its not an issue to worry about, though I can replicate it in FF. 
Maybe its just an older FF issue?

Best wishes
Josiah


On Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:31:03 UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
>
> You might want to advise that on first open you can get a JavaScript 
>> error. Its goes away on subsequent reload. (This is a known quirk. Its 
>> something to do with getting JS in place? Often not encountered by the 
>> developer as they don't open for the first time more than once :-)
>>
>> Thanks! I'll take a better look at the pan widget, maybe I can prevent 
> that error...
>
> I've opened the page on Beaker Browser now for the first time, there's no 
> such error, on chromium neither. I haven't accessed it on those browsers 
> before
>
> Could this error in general be related to safari?
>
> BTC
>
>

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[tw] Re: Passing a variable parameter to a custom macro and storing its returned value

[passingby]

Thank you BJ for your excellent idea. I was very busy but I just tried out 
the code and it is working but somewhere the getRandomised macro is being 
called twice, so the titles  list is becoming like this: a title 
b title. I could not figure it out yet, but i shall try again in my 
next free time. Thank you for your  help.

On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 2:02:54 PM UTC-7, BJ wrote:
>
> may be
>
> \define my-actions(x)
> <$set name="qTopic" value="""$x$""">
> <$set name="qName" value={{$:/.user/temp/quiz!!givenName}}>
>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<> tags="Quiz" 
> topic=<> list=<>/>
>
> 
> 
> \end
>
> Select a topic for quiz:
> <$select tiddler="$:/.user/temp/quiz" field="selectedTopic">
> <$list filter='[tag[Topic]]'>
> >><$view field='title'/>
> 
> 
>
> Enter a name for quiz:
> <$edit-text tiddler="$:/.user/temp/quiz" field="givenName" 
> default="QuizName" />
>
> <$button >
> <$macrocall $name="my-actions" x={{$:/.user/temp/quiz!!selectedTopic}}/>
> Create Quiz
> 
>
> On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 8:23:25 PM UTC+1, passingby wrote:
>>
>> While making a small quiz app for myself I needed a macro/plugin which 
>> would randomise a list of titles. Matthew Lauber's shuffle operator did 
>> just this. 
>> But then for learning purposes ( so that I use the opportunity to create 
>> custom javascript macros), I decided to make a simple javascript macro for 
>> myself.
>>
>> My plan is:
>> 1. First step; add a topic to TW. Create a tiddler with topic name and 
>> tagged as 'Topic'.
>> 2. Second: Add question/answer tiddlers as children of this topic, tagged 
>> with topic tiddler's name. Later on a question tiddler could have multiple 
>> topic tags so that it can be included across the quizzes
>> 3.Third: Have a [[Make Quiz]] form tiddler. It would have a dropdown 
>> containing topics available and text field for the name of the quiz to be 
>> created and a button which would create a quiz tiddler, which would have 2 
>> fields: topic and a list field. The list field would contain a list of 
>> shuffled titles for this quiz. The quiz tiddler would also have a 'Show 
>> Quiz' button which when pressed would run a list widget with filter set to 
>> its own list field and it would open all the quiz tiddlers in the list.
>>
>> So far so good.
>> In order to shuffle the titles and store them in list field of quiz 
>> tiddler I made a javascript macro [[getRandomisedSequenceOfTitles]] which 
>> takes a tag name as a parameter and returns a list of titles shuffled in 
>> order. I need to store this returned list into the list field of the quiz 
>> tiddler being created.  Here is my [[Make Quiz]] tiddler:
>>
>> \define getTitles()
>> <$macrocall $name="getRandomisedSequenceOfTitles" tag=$(qTopic)$/>
>> \end
>>
>> \define my-actions()
>> <$set name="qTopic" value={{$:/.user/temp/quiz!!selectedTopic}}>
>> <$set name="qName" value={{$:/.user/temp/quiz!!givenName}}>
>> <$set name="qTitles" value=<>>
>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<> 
>> tags="Quiz" topic=<> list=<>/>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> \end
>>
>> Select a topic for quiz:
>> <$select tiddler="$:/.user/temp/quiz" field="selectedTopic">
>> <$list filter='[tag[Topic]]'>
>> >><$view field='title'/>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> Enter a name for quiz:
>> <$edit-text tiddler="$:/.user/temp/quiz" field="givenName" 
>> default="QuizName" />
>>
>> <$button actions=<>>
>> Create Quiz
>> 
>>
>> I have attached a sample tw which you can use to try out the code. The 
>> problem as one can see is that I cannot do this:
>>
>>
>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<> 
>> tags="Quiz" topic=<> list=<> <>>>/>
>>
>> The only way to pass an evaluated parameter to a macro is to use a 
>> macrocall widget. But if we use that we have no way to catch the 
>> returned value and store it somewhere. And what I have done above does 
>> not work either, because the macrocall inside macro getTitles does not 
>> get evaluated, it is treated just as text. 
>>
>>
>> So I am stuck. What's the way out? Am I going about this is a non TW way? 
>> How would I catch the returned string and store it in the list field of new 
>> quiz tiddler being created?
>>
>>
>>  
>>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] PanFlex Layout

[BurningTreeC]

> You might want to advise that on first open you can get a JavaScript 
> error. Its goes away on subsequent reload. (This is a known quirk. Its 
> something to do with getting JS in place? Often not encountered by the 
> developer as they don't open for the first time more than once :-)
>
> Thanks! I'll take a better look at the pan widget, maybe I can prevent 
that error...

I've opened the page on Beaker Browser now for the first time, there's no 
such error, on chromium neither. I haven't accessed it on those browsers 
before

Could this error in general be related to safari?

BTC

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[tw] Re: [TW5] PanFlex Layout

[@TiddlyTweeter]

You might want to advise that on first open you can get a JavaScript error. 
Its goes away on subsequent reload. (This is a known quirk. Its something 
to do with getting JS in place? Often not encountered by the developer as 
they don't open for the first time more than once :-)

BTW, there is also a "mid-bar".

Lovely stuff. 

J.

On Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:02:46 UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hello folks,
>
> I'm tweaking on a Layout concept called *PanFlex *on 
> http://panflex.tiddlyspot.com - it still has some quirks -
> But I'll show it off anyway ;)
>
> This concept uses my pan widget to create 4 draggable bars around the 
> story river that let you show and hide a left- top- right- and bottom panel
> Each panel can hold the content you like by tagging tiddlers with: 
> $:/tags/LeftBar $:/tags/TopBar $:/tags/BottomBar ... the right bar is the 
> sidebar and remains untouched 'cause it's a holy cow
>
> If you like to take a look and test, I'd appreciate if you let me know if 
> you find it useful and especially if you discover some errors and quirks
>
> The stylesheet and calculations a pretty complex and I hope I can fix the 
> remaining bugs soon
>
> All the best,
>
> BurningTreeC
>

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[tw] [TW5] PanFlex Layout

[BurningTreeC]

Hello folks,

I'm tweaking on a Layout concept called *PanFlex *on 
http://panflex.tiddlyspot.com - it still has some quirks -
But I'll show it off anyway ;)

This concept uses my pan widget to create 4 draggable bars around the story 
river that let you show and hide a left- top- right- and bottom panel
Each panel can hold the content you like by tagging tiddlers with: 
$:/tags/LeftBar $:/tags/TopBar $:/tags/BottomBar ... the right bar is the 
sidebar and remains untouched 'cause it's a holy cow

If you like to take a look and test, I'd appreciate if you let me know if 
you find it useful and especially if you discover some errors and quirks

The stylesheet and calculations a pretty complex and I hope I can fix the 
remaining bugs soon

All the best,

BurningTreeC

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Re: [tw] Re: Recommendations for an ASCII to diagram plugin?

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Nicola, thank you! great stuff.

I will edit the example in my last post as needed. The simplicity of what 
you need to type is very appealing!

Best wishes
Josiah

Nicola Worthington wrote:
>
> With a slight modification of the ASCII to use a + at the corners and 
> joins, ... yes. It seems to work nicely.
>
> https://imgur.com/tkkQPjg
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Recommendations for an ASCII to diagram plugin?

[Nicola Worthington]

With a slight modification of the ASCII to use a + at the corners and
joins, ... yes. It seems to work nicely.

https://imgur.com/tkkQPjg




On 1 March 2018 at 18:50, @TiddlyTweeter  wrote:

> Ciao Nicola & Jed
>
> That looks very interesting!!! for doing designs that have quite a bit of
> freedom.
>
> FWIW, for a long time I been looking for something to construct kinship
> trees with. Most of the flow chart solutions don't allow them (their logic
> prevents it) this approach looks like it might work?
>
> Here is some test layout in ASCII ...
>
>+-+ +-+
>| FATHER  |-| MOTHER  |
>| John Higg   |  |  | Mabel Dee   |
>+-+  |  +-+
> |
>  ---
>  |||
>+-+ +-+  +-+
> +-+
>| SISTER  | | BROTHER |  | *EGO*   |-| WIFE
>  |
>| Flo Higg| | Fred Higg   |  | Glenn Higg  |  |  | Cheri
> Ott   |
>+-+ +-+  +-+  |
> +-+
>  |
>--
>
>||
>
>   +-+
> +-+
>   | SON |  | SON
> |
>   | Adam Higg   |  | Ben Higg
>|
>   +-+
> +-+
>
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
> On Thursday, 1 March 2018 19:25:51 UTC+1, Nicola Worthington wrote:
>>
>> That is very generous of you kind sir, and very much appreciated! Don't
>> worry, no expectations.
>>
>> On 1 March 2018 at 17:57, Jed Carty  wrote:
>>
>>> The code isn't too terribly difficult. I am going to look at it now. I
>>> am not promising anything.
>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: Recommendations for an ASCII to diagram plugin?

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Nicola & Jed

That looks very interesting!!! for doing designs that have quite a bit of 
freedom.

FWIW, for a long time I been looking for something to construct kinship 
trees with. Most of the flow chart solutions don't allow them (their logic 
prevents it) this approach looks like it might work?

Here is some test layout in ASCII ...

   +-+ +-+  
   | FATHER  |-| MOTHER  |
   | John Higg   |  |  | Mabel Dee   |
   +-+  |  +-+ 
| 
 ---
 ||| 
   +-+ +-+  +-+ 
+-+
   | SISTER  | | BROTHER |  | *EGO*   |-| WIFE 
   |
   | Flo Higg| | Fred Higg   |  | Glenn Higg  |  |  | Cheri Ott 
  |
   +-+ +-+  +-+  |  
+-+
 |
   --  
   ||  
  +-+  
+-+
  | SON |  | SON   
  |
  | Adam Higg   |  | Ben Higg   
 |
  +-+  
+-+


Best wishes
Josiah

On Thursday, 1 March 2018 19:25:51 UTC+1, Nicola Worthington wrote:
>
> That is very generous of you kind sir, and very much appreciated! Don't 
> worry, no expectations.
>
> On 1 March 2018 at 17:57, Jed Carty  
> wrote:
>
>> The code isn't too terribly difficult. I am going to look at it now. I am 
>> not promising anything.
>>
>>

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Re: [tw] Re: Recommendations for an ASCII to diagram plugin?

[Nicola Worthington]

That is very generous of you kind sir, and very much appreciated! Don't
worry, no expectations.

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> not promising anything.
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[tw] Re: Recommendations for an ASCII to diagram plugin?

[Jed Carty]

The code isn't too terribly difficult. I am going to look at it now. I am 
not promising anything.

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Re: [tw] Recommendations for an ASCII to diagram plugin?

[Nicola Worthington]

This looks interesting too:

https://asciidoctor.org/docs/asciidoctor-diagram/
https://asciidoctor.org/docs/asciidoctor.js/

On 1 March 2018 at 11:18, Neech WORTHINGTON 
wrote:

> I've been using this proof-of-concept code from
> https://github.com/dbushong/shaky to generate simple "shaky hand drawn"
> diagrams from simple ASCII source data.
>
> Since this isn't a plugin, I need to save the resulting image into my
> TiddlyWiki to embed it into a Tiddler.
>
> Can anybody recommend a plugin for TiddlyWiki that will
> dynamically convert my ASCII diagram drawing into a canvas image to display
> inside the tiddler, and thus keep the size of my wikis down?
>
> If nobody can recommend one, maybe someone would be amazingly kind and
> convert the https://github.com/dbushong/shaky into a usable TiddlyWiki
> plugin? I am afraid it is just outside of my level of competency.
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[tw] Re: Recommendations for an ASCII to diagram plugin?

[Stephan Hradek]

*WOW* That's cool… But nothing I think I'm able to do.

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[tw] Re: Small Tip: simple no-plugin/no-core-modification way to store tiddler revisions

[wjam]

See also 
$://plugins/wjam/save button ...
twjam5beta 
can be used stand alone. no js required
wjam

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[tw] Re: Positive Assertions In One Sentence ... (aka Saying Succinctly What TW Is About ...)

[TonyM]

TiddlyWiki is to computing, as atoms are to chemistry.

Starting with TiddlyWiki and the technologies at its core you can build 
almost anything, for yourself or others.

Given TiddlyWiki's place in the exosystem of universal clients (Browsers) 
and on General purpose computers it can represent anything in the unierse 
you can represent with algorithims, data and media.

TiddlyWiki 4 Me
TiddlyWiki beyond the limits of the sky
My Obsession

Regards'Tony

On Friday, April 7, 2017 at 11:42:09 PM UTC+10, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> One of the vital things about #TiddlyWiki 
>  is it champions the 
> importance of the #AUTHOR.
>
> And yours ... ?
>

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[tw] Re: Positive Assertions In One Sentence ... (aka Saying Succinctly What TW Is About ...)

[@TiddlyTweeter]

"TiddlyWiki is the Don Dapper of pre-production design tools." --  @MinskWorks  
on Twitter 

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[tw] Recommendations for an ASCII to diagram plugin?

[Neech WORTHINGTON]

I've been using this proof-of-concept code from 
https://github.com/dbushong/shaky to generate simple "shaky hand drawn" 
diagrams from simple ASCII source data.

Since this isn't a plugin, I need to save the resulting image into my 
TiddlyWiki to embed it into a Tiddler.

Can anybody recommend a plugin for TiddlyWiki that will dynamically convert 
my ASCII diagram drawing into a canvas image to display inside the tiddler, 
and thus keep the size of my wikis down?

If nobody can recommend one, maybe someone would be amazingly kind and 
convert the https://github.com/dbushong/shaky into a usable TiddlyWiki 
plugin? I am afraid it is just outside of my level of competency.

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[tw] Re: Faster version

[Tristan Kohl]

Hello Mark,

I can not second this impression as my FF 58.0.2 on Kubuntu 16.04 (8GB 
RAM) uses ~900MB right now with the main process taking up around 200MB of 
that. Currenty there are 2 Tabs pinned (WhatsApp Web and one TW) and... let 
me count... 24 Tabs open one of them YouTube playing a video. So your 
problem is quite strange as the memory use was significantly decreased with 
the FF 58 Update. Before that my Firefox was almost as bad as Chrome in 
regards to memory but since than it got so much better. Maybe there are 
some plugins of yours eating up your memory? I can not remember that I ever 
had to reboot my computer/browser due to memory problems. My last computer 
reboot was like 4 days ago since then I only went to hibernate with Firefox 
still open and no problems so far.

Cheers,
Tristan


On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 6:00:41 AM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
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> The more tabs you open the more memory the browser takes. The more memory 
> the browser takes, the slower the browser goes.  You can see the memory use 
> in the task manager. When the browser uses too much memory it comes to a 
> complete stop and I have to reboot. 
>
> It's possible that your computer has a lot of memory and don't notice this 
> effect. I have only 8 gigs. At this moment, FF is taking up somewhere 
> around 5 gigs and I will need to reboot soon. I was hoping that the new 57+ 
> FF would be smarter about memory, but it is only marginally better than 
> before.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 6:33:35 PM UTC-8, PMario wrote:
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 8:43:11 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> For firefox, reboot the browser and don't open more tabs than you really 
>>> need.
>>>
>>
>> That doesn't make sense. You can open as many tabs as you want. This 
>> doesn't affect TW. I personally have 10 tabs pinned, and several open, most 
>> of the time. 
>>
>> -m
>>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: TW saved in Beaker Browser and synced by Hashbase

[Jeremy Ruston]

> The real problem is, that the "staging" area used in version 0.7.x will be 
> gone in the upcoming 0.8.x ... So you only can save to a "hidden" dat file 
> and not your local filesystem. 

Just to clarify, the implications of this change are that post 0.8.x, 
TiddlyWiki documents will need to be stored within Beaker's own file system 
area (at the moment, they can be stored anywhere on your filing system). That 
means that it won't be possible to, say, use Beaker to edit a TiddlyWiki stored 
in your Dropbox folder. Equivalent functionality can be had by syncing to 
Hashbase (or compatible server).

> The basic BB issue is IF you also want to publicly publish TW

That's not correct. Sites created in Beaker browser have a cryptographically 
secure URL that is impossible to guess. If you don't publish the URL of your 
wiki then it cannot be found by anyone else. The neat thing, though, is that 
you can choose to share the URL with (say) a publishing service like Hashbase, 
without having to share it with anyone else.

In other words, you can use Beaker's federation features for private syncing, 
not just for publishing.

Best wishes

Jeremy


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