date:20180427

Yes, that’s it. Google finds many scripts that autoresize iframes to fit their 
contents, but I haven’t been able to make one of those work for TW … hoping 
someone here has.

Cheers,
Peter

> On 28 Apr 2018, at 2:17 AM, Jed Carty  wrote:
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> Oh, is your goal having the embedded iframe change sizes to accommodate 
> changes to the size of the wiki?
> 
> Because while that is probably possible it would take a lot more than some 
> simple css.
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[tw5] Re: Customice font sice of sidebar

2018-04-27 Thread TonyM

Xabrina,

I presume you have tried the ctrl-Mouse(centre roller) to dynamically zoom 
in our out?

I presume you are editing a SideBar tab, or have created your own?

Also, Keep in mind that due to the zoom feature all font sizes can be 
relative, also, items placed in the side bar do need to be designed to fit 
in the sidebar given its limited width.

See $:/ControlPanel > Appearance > Theme Tweeks > SideBar Width

See also Sidebar layout and other settings.

Regards
Tony



On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 10:37:35 PM UTC+10, Xabriña wrote:
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> Hello everyone.
>
> I would like to know if it is possible to change the font size of the 
> sidebar, only the sidebar, and if there is a way that in long entries you 
> can adjust the text in two lines instead of being cut as it happens to me 
> continuously .
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
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[tw5] Re: Reflections -- On the LAG on Getting Up And Doing

2018-04-27 Thread TonyM

Josiah,

I understand the "ideal state" you seek, I think it a worthy ideal that we 
may expect never to reach but should keep trying to find.

I hope as my involvement increases I can help in the realisation of this 
ideal. 

There is however a counter force and that is TiddlyWiki is a platform and 
ecosystem. If TiddlyWiki was a Programming language, we would understand 
the results may often not be visible to us.

Once again we can see that TiddlyWiki has so many personalities and 
possible outcomes, It can be a platform but also a user application, that 
even the documentation can struggle to address. A lot of solutions or 
plugins are created by "free lancers" so it is amazing the consistency we 
do have.

I think there is a maturity coming to tiddlywiki which will help students 
and new comers, It is our obligation to develop and promote this"maturity", 
if we depend on TiddlyWiki.

Regards
Tony
  

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[tw5] Re: A TiddlyWiki -- "Stephen Hawking"

2018-04-27 Thread Mat

@TiddlyTweeter,

I'm guessing you're linking to these so they can be found as public 
examples of TW. Nice idea. May I ask if you're using the prefix "A 
TiddlyWiki -- " so to make all these examples more findable? That would be 
a good idea even if it might be even better with a more distinct such title 
(e.g "Public TW:"). That would make them easier to find in searches, I 
think.

Thanks

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Customice font sice of sidebar

2018-04-27 Thread Xabriña

I have seen in some classic Tiddlywiki what I have asked previously but I am 
not clear about where these modifications can be configured. Change the size of 
the font and in the long titles of the tiddlers they adjust to the size of the 
sidebar.

Thanks in advance.

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[tw5] Re: How to properly embed and inject an image into a TiddlyWiki HTML file?

2018-04-27 Thread Zachary Storer

Oh, nice! Thanks. Yeah, I now see the Import button under the tools menu. 
For this particular TiddlyWiki I don't have very large image, audio, or PDF 
files, and I just want to quickly share it, so a single .html file seemed 
convenient to me. Most of the time I do indeed plan to use external images.

Anyway, thanks.

-

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On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 1:32:46 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>
> You can just drag and drop an image into TW to "embed" it. BUT, if you do, 
> you will use up space inside of TW. TW is not a "real" program. When it 
> reaches a certain size (typically somewhere between 10 and 30 megs) it will 
> become unusable. That's why it's better to use external images if at all 
> possible.
>
> These links explain how to use images in TW:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#ExternalImages
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Images%20in%20WikiText
>
> This link talks about embedding audio:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Audio
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 10:42:43 AM UTC-7, Zachary Storer wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> For some reason my search of this mailing list isn't popping up with a 
>> proper answer to this question for me.
>> Anyway, how do I properly embed and inject an image into a TiddlyWiki 
>> HTML file without keeping an external directory for images?
>> Also, can I do this with other media as well, such as with PDF files or 
>> Audio?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -
>>
>> Zak
>>
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[tw5] Re: How to properly embed and inject an image into a TiddlyWiki HTML file?

2018-04-27 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

You can just drag and drop an image into TW to "embed" it. BUT, if you do, 
you will use up space inside of TW. TW is not a "real" program. When it 
reaches a certain size (typically somewhere between 10 and 30 megs) it will 
become unusable. That's why it's better to use external images if at all 
possible.

These links explain how to use images in TW:

https://tiddlywiki.com/#ExternalImages
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Images%20in%20WikiText

This link talks about embedding audio:

https://tiddlywiki.com/#Audio

-- Mark

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> Hello,
>
> For some reason my search of this mailing list isn't popping up with a 
> proper answer to this question for me.
> Anyway, how do I properly embed and inject an image into a TiddlyWiki HTML 
> file without keeping an external directory for images?
> Also, can I do this with other media as well, such as with PDF files or 
> Audio?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -
>
> Zak
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki v5.1.16

2018-04-27 Thread TheDiveO

The GitHub repo https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/ does not seem to 
be fully in sync with the 5.1.16 release, as at least the package.json 
still identifies it as 5.1.16-prerelease. The npm package on npmjs.com has 
been correctly updated though.

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Re: [tw5] Re: How to edit menus

2018-04-27 Thread BurningTreeC

Ok, now I have a solution:

<$list filter="[[$:/state/storyfilter]is[missing]]">

<$list filter="[list[$:/StoryList]]" ... here the rest of what's already 
there/>



<$list filter="[[$:/state/storyfilter]!is[missing]]">

<$vars myFilter={{$:/state/storyfilter}}>

<$list filter=<> ... here the rest of what's already there/>






On the very top of the $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/story tiddler put these 
lines:

\define storyFilter()
[list[$:/StoryList]$(myFilter)$]
\end


that's tested over here, it works for me

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Re: [tw5] Re: How to edit menus

2018-04-27 Thread BurningTreeC

Morgaine, I'm actually trying what I proposed - don't do it like that!

I'm looking for a correct solution, this one makes big trouble!!


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[tw5] How to properly embed an image into a TiddlyWiki HTML file?

2018-04-27 Thread Zachary Storer

Hello,

For some reason my search of this mailing list isn't popping up with a 
proper answer to this question for me.
Anyway, how do I properly embed and inject an image into a TiddlyWiki HTML 
file without keeping an external directory for images?
Also, can I do this with other media as well, such as with PDF files or 
Audio?

Thanks,

-

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[tw5] Re: Stupid question: How can I embed a TW in a static page without getting a scrollbar

Oh, is your goal having the embedded iframe change sizes to accommodate 
changes to the size of the wiki?

Because while that is probably possible it would take a lot more than some 
simple css.

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[tw5] A TiddlyWiki -- "Stephen Hawking"

2018-04-27 Thread @TiddlyTweeter

A good use of simple TW with tagging to present the basics of the life and 
importance of Stephen Hawking.

http://tinyurl.com/y9bgekdg

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[tw5] Re: March Of The Androids -- Seeking Info On Your Usage

Downloaded fresh NoteSelf. Created tiddler $:/test and refreshed. 
Advance search and $:/test is there in system. 
Edit $:/test to $:/template or anything starting temp and refresh and no 
$:/template is found. 
Curiouser and curiouser... 

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[tw5] A TiddlyWiki -- "Tarot Card Reading"

2018-04-27 Thread @TiddlyTweeter

A neat "Tarot Card Reading" TW from a DesignWriteStudio student ...

  http://tinyurl.com/yb8s6jqy

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Re: [tw5] Re: Stupid question: How can I embed a TW in a static page without getting a scrollbar

2018-04-27 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

I know I'm out of my league here, but when I inspect the code I see an 
"embed", not an "iframe".  And to me it looks like the onload function 
contains quotes within quotes which, AFAIK, isn't supposed to work (it 
needs to alternate single quote sets with double quote sets and/or escape 
quotes). The onload is where it attempts to set the height of the embedded 
object  to accommodate the scroll height of the browser, so if that fails 
in some browsers then maybe that would be why the scroll still shows up.

It kind of seems more like an HTML/CSS question rather than a TW question.

-- Mark 

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> Yes, it’s the iframe scrollbar I’d like to get rid of there if you know a 
> way. I’ve tried a few scripts that claimed to adjust the sizes to do it but 
> no luck so far.
>
> Peter
>
> On 27 Apr 2018, at 10:42 PM, Jed Carty  
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>
> I still don't know which extra scroll bar you mean. There is the scroll 
> bar for the page and the scroll bar because the iframe element is smaller 
> than its content, both are where they are supposed to be. Do you mean one 
> of them?
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[tw5] Reflections -- On the LAG on Getting Up And Doing

2018-04-27 Thread @TiddlyTweeter

I followed DesignWriteStudio, run by Steve @ SUNYPoly, with interest for a
second year.

I'm interested in what new students of TW in an active learning context can
achieve in a limited time period. Some of the resulting TW are very good.

But *ONE thing that absolutely stands out to me* is what long term users
here know (that DWS students don't at first)--*the current complications in
FINDING TW exemplars, and code examples*, you need to solve problems and
evolve one's TW ...

Its currently far too much work unless you have a degree in Information
Forensics.

Here is a great comment by one student
...

There are a few areas that are a bit mysterious still to me (I initially
tried creating this with fewer plugins, but couldn't get it to work until I
added others found through the Google Group). If I was to recreate this,
I'd probably start by immediately importing every plugin I used.

The comment is considered and liberal. But it illustrates the issue--that
its laborious at the moment to adequately evaluate extant solutions.
Typically, you can only say what you SHOULD have used AFTER you went
through a complex process of trial-and-error to find out.

I think some of the issues SUNYPoly students had were never addressed or
solved simply because its currently too complicated for them (and us) to
figure out what is where and what is what--though there ARE solutions that
could have solved some of their issues better. And their teacher, Steve, is
a mortal who can't know ALL that has been done or where to find it.

IMO, knowing ALL is for SYSTEMS of AGGREGATION. It can't be in people's
heads. And its can't work well through random posts. Normal posts here on
GG often solve problems well. But mostly those solutions disappear into the
Google Swamp within a few days.

Just moaning (again) from the fog
Josiah

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Re: [tw5] Please explain to me why TiddlyWiki is a "Wiki"?

2018-04-27 Thread TonyM

Josiah et al,

On further reflection tiddlywiki is already a unique and somewhat indestinct
name and exists in great numbers in search engines. Just what we need, and
already have.

Perhaps instead we need to place keywords around it such as;
Tiddlywiki platform
Applications on tiddlywiki
Tiddlywiki ecosystem
Universal tiddlywiki platform
Tiddlywiki development environment
Tiddlywiki sdk software development kit/platform
Hosting with tiddlywiki
Website development on tiddlywiki
Responcive websites with tiddlywiki
Develop on tiddlywiki
Host tiddlywiki anywhere

These terms and phrases in reference to tiddlywiki will represent its broad
functionality in diverse areas.

Tiddlywiki has already established it's single file credentials, now we need to
promote it beyond that.

The next thing is to promote it to the descreet applications.
Notepads on tiddlywiki etc..

Design your own software/applications with tiddlywiki.

Food for thought
Tony

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[tw5] Re: March Of The Androids -- Seeking Info On Your Usage

Hello Ste,

It should no make any different from mobile or desktop

Have you tried with a brand new empty notebook ?

El viernes, 27 de abril de 2018, 10:55:33 (UTC+2), Ste Wilson escribió:
>
> Yes I meant / :)
>  Let me clarify. If I import or create a shadow tiddler and a normal 
> tiddler upon a browser refresh the shadow tiddler has gone no where to be 
> found the normal tiddler is there. (the shadow is not found using an 
> advanced search and templates that use it don't work). 
>
> I was speculating that that could be related to the plugin problem you had 
> just commented on or it could be completely different problem. 
>
> Of it makes any difference in doing this from a mobile. 
>
> Ste
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Stupid question: How can I embed a TW in a static page without getting a scrollbar

Sorry to be ambiguous Jed. What I’m hoping to see is the same layout as on 
http://xscale.wiki, but with the header I’m picking up from the static site per 
http://xscalealliance.org/blueprint.html 
 , and without the iframe scrollbar. 
And ideally with a bit more room for the tiddlymap to expand into as well … but 
that bit’s just a nice to have.


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> You need to describe the behaviour you want then. Because this is acting the 
> way it is expected to act. You may be able to use css to hide the scroll bar 
> but that doesn't sound like what you want.
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[tw5] Re: Stupid question: How can I embed a TW in a static page without getting a scrollbar

You need to describe the behaviour you want then. Because this is acting 
the way it is expected to act. You may be able to use css to hide the 
scroll bar but that doesn't sound like what you want.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Stupid question: How can I embed a TW in a static page without getting a scrollbar

Yes, it’s the iframe scrollbar I’d like to get rid of there if you know a way. 
I’ve tried a few scripts that claimed to adjust the sizes to do it but no luck 
so far.

Peter

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> I still don't know which extra scroll bar you mean. There is the scroll bar 
> for the page and the scroll bar because the iframe element is smaller than 
> its content, both are where they are supposed to be. Do you mean one of them?
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[tw5] Re: Stupid question: How can I embed a TW in a static page without getting a scrollbar

I still don't know which extra scroll bar you mean. There is the scroll bar 
for the page and the scroll bar because the iframe element is smaller than 
its content, both are where they are supposed to be. Do you mean one of 
them?

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Re: [tw5] Re: Stupid question: How can I embed a TW in a static page without getting a scrollbar

Hi Jed,

Thanks for digging in. You’re right - the Javascript error message doesn’t 
occur for me in Firefox or Safari either. I just tried Vivaldi as well and 
couldn’t reproduce it. 

But I get it reliably only in Chrome. Only when I click on a link for the first 
time, and only when the wiki is in the iframe - I don’t get it at 
http://xscale.wiki where the TW is hosted.

I’m running Chrome Version 66.0.3359.139 (Official Build) (64-bit) on OSX 
1-/11/6 on a mid-2012 Macbook Air … 

The extra scrollba occurs on all these browsers so long as we’re in the iframe. 
Again, on xscale.wiki, it doesn’t appear.

Cheers,
Peter 

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> I am not getting any errors on the site on either safari or firefox. I don't 
> know what your desired behaviour is here, it is working the way I would 
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Re: [tw5] Re: How to edit menus

2018-04-27 Thread BurningTreeC


>
> Hi Simon, Thank you for responding,
> I'm building a game website and I wanted tabs at the top to filter wikis 
> by subject.  In most 'standard' websites there are menu items that will 
> take you to a given page or section of the site; I want those menu items 
> to  select which tiddlers  appear, without going to another page.. Pretty 
> much exactly like http://haltu.github.io/muuri does it, except by subject 
> rather than color. The menu items would be Players, Characters, The Game 
> Master, The Game World, and Mechanics.  This *very tentative *site is at 
> https://thpmefsl4nj2xg7nynj04q-on.drv.tw/Harn%20Game%20Website/index.html
>
>
that's a cool idea :) !

yes it's doable - my first idea would be modifying the story list in the 
tiddler $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/story
there's a line <$list filter="[list[$:/StoryList]" ... />. That filter can 
be extended, you could make it to [list[$:/StoryList]tag[Characters]] and 
the story would show only Tiddlers tagged with "Characters" - more advanced 
filtering would also be possible, by field, by title - how you want

Now if you create some dropdown buttons on top of your page that let you 
select "Players" "Characters" ... those buttons could set the text of a 
tiddler, say - "$:/state/storyfilter", to the desired filter like 
tag[Players]

if you modify the line in $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/story to:

<$list filter="[[$:/state/storyfilter]is[missing]]">

<$list filter="[list[$:/StoryList]]" ... here the rest of what's already 
there/>



<$list filter="[[$:/state/storyfilter]!is[missing]]">

<$vars myFilter={{$:/state/storyfilter}}>

<$list filter="[list[$:/StoryList]]" ... here the rest of what's 
already there/>





... then the story gets filtered by the filter in $:/state/storyfilter

the buttons on top of the page must make sure that a correct filter lands 
in $:/state/storyfilter

such a button would be:

<$button set="$:/state/storyfilter" setTo="tag[Players]">Players

and there should be something to delete the $:/state/storyfilter tiddler 
like:

<$button><$action-deletetiddler $tiddler="$:/state/storyfilter"/>Full 
Story


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[tw5] Re: Stupid question: How can I embed a TW in a static page without getting a scrollbar

I am not getting any errors on the site on either safari or firefox. I 
don't know what your desired behaviour is here, it is working the way I 
would expect.

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Re: [tw5] Stupid question: How can I embed a TW in a static page without getting a scrollbar

2018-04-27 Thread Birthe C

I may be stupid but isn't it $:/plugins/felixhayashi/topstoryview/Configuration 
scroll offset=150px?

Birthe

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Re: [tw5] Stupid question: How can I embed a TW in a static page without getting a scrollbar

No worries Jed, thanks for taking an interest. I’ve got a cut of it up at 
http://xscalealliance.org/blueprint.html 
 . You’ll see two problems there:

1) Extra scrollbar
2) The first time you click on any link in the river, "
Internal JavaScript Error

Well, this is embarrassing. It is recommended that you restart TiddlyWiki by 
refreshing your browser
Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'length' of null”


Apart from those things it seems to work okay ...

Both sites are hosted on github-pages and I should mention, in case one of 
these is a cross-site issue, I control both domains and can just add the TW as 
a git submodule if that would help …

Cheers,
Peter 

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> You need to give more context than this. Otherwise the most specific answer 
> possible is 'Probably with css'.
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Re: [tw5] Re: [tw] Annoying "Changes you made may not be saved." popup on leaving without editing

Hi Hans,

Thanks for the kind words. Let me know if you’d like to get involved in it. You 
can check out the video explainers at https://www.youtube.com/c/XSCALEAlliance 
 to get a better idea about the 
principles of the thing. I’m presently updating the main site at 
http://xscalealliance.org .

All the best,
Peter


> On 27 Apr 2018, at 7:29 AM, HansWobbe  wrote:
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> Peter:
> 
> An impressive piece of work, indeed.
> 
> Hopefully I'll find some time this summer to learn more about both your 
> technolony and the subject matter. 
> 
> Congratulations!
> 
> Best regards,
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[tw5] Re: March Of The Androids -- Seeking Info On Your Usage

Yes I meant / :)
 Let me clarify. If I import or create a shadow tiddler and a normal tiddler 
upon a browser refresh the shadow tiddler has gone no where to be found the 
normal tiddler is there. (the shadow is not found using an advanced search and 
templates that use it don't work). 

I was speculating that that could be related to the plugin problem you had just 
commented on or it could be completely different problem. 

Of it makes any difference in doing this from a mobile. 

Ste

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[tw5] Re: March Of The Androids -- Seeking Info On Your Usage

Hello Ste,

El viernes, 27 de abril de 2018, 10:37:34 (UTC+2), Ste Wilson escribió:
>
> Aha! Danielo! 
> It may be related to the plugins thing but I'm finding I can't import or 
> save tiddlers strarting with $:\ which is why my templates aren't working. 
> I have imported/cloned renamed with out the prefix and hit save. The non 
> prefixed version is still there on a fefresh. The prefixed one is no where 
> to be found. 
>
> This is true running directly from your github site and for the NoteSelf 
> app which I have updated with the latest plugin versions. 
>
> Ste
>

 I have several plugins named with the $:/ prefix  and they are working 
fine. Please note that the prefix uses the normal slash ( */ *), not 
backslash wich is used for escaping. Maybe that could be the problem ?
What do you mean by hitting save ? Tiddlers are saved automatically, no 
need to hit save unless you want to download the entire wiki as an html 
file.

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[tw5] Re: NoteSelf uses local browser storage seamlessly with a remote synching server

Hello all.

Glad to see that more people is getting interested by NoteSelf.
I'm sorry to read people is having some trouble. To be honest, the new
Cloudant policies have hit the NS community hard. However, I have plans to
mitigate this problem (see below).

I want to make some clarifications about NoteSelf. It is not just a plugin,
neither just a database for your tiddlers, it is an entire product and it
is not fair to call it "just a thing to use a remote database". It has many
features that are not only saving tiddlers automatically, and if you try to
port all of those to "just a database" you will lost many of them. For
example:

- Revision history. You can see the different old revisions of your
tiddlers, and restore them if you want on a more or less nice interface.
- Offline support. You can use NS while you are offline, no network
connection required, and changes will be synchronized automatically when
you come back online.
- No need of backend. Yes, syncing requires a backend, but you don't need
any remote database if you just want to use NS. You can even use the normal
TW workflow (downloading files) and use NS as an intermediary cache-step
for automatic saving.
- An hybrid android app. It may not be spectacular, but works fine and it
is better than using any browser.
- A system that allows you to install plugins without saving a new HTML file

I am happy to see that other people is taking inspiration from NS to build
their own solutions, that's fantastic, but have in mind that NS is more
than just a database.
Also I want to remind you that what makes an open source project strong is
it's community. If each user tries to create their own solution, then we
will end with dozen half-baked solutions. If you think that NS is lacking
some small detail, don't hesitate to file a pull request to add that
feature you are missing.

*For all those users using or interested on NoteSelf:*

I am working on a project to bring easy login flow to NoteSelf. It will use
a passwordless approach, so you will not need to remember a password
neither registration.
You will input your email and hit login, then we will generate a random pin
with a small lifetime (say 30 minutes), then you input that pin on NoteSelf
and we will provide you a long-term authentication token that will be
automatically managed by NoteSelf.
At first the service should be considered beta, will be free and only one
database per user will be provided.
I would like to know your opinions on this approach, if you like it or not
and if you will use it.
There will be a section for novice users, for being able to use this
easy-automatic workflow, and I'll keep a section for advanced users that
want their own couch servers.

Regards

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[tw5] Re: March Of The Androids -- Seeking Info On Your Usage

Aha! Danielo! 
It may be related to the plugins thing but I'm finding I can't import or save 
tiddlers strarting with $:\ which is why my templates aren't working. I have 
imported/cloned renamed with out the prefix and hit save. The non prefixed 
version is still there on a fefresh. The prefixed one is no where to be found. 

This is true running directly from your github site and for the NoteSelf app 
which I have updated with the latest plugin versions. 

Ste

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Re: [tw5] Please explain to me why TiddlyWiki is a "Wiki"?

We have the TWechnology, we can make stuff TWetter than it was. Twetter, 
stronger, faster. 

>From the 6 Million Dollar Tiddlywiki. 

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[tw5] Re: March Of The Androids -- Seeking Info On Your Usage