date:20180512

Thanks Jed

I will try it out on my return to the big smoke and I plan to donate, 
unfortunatly the Australian doller is not too strong at the moment.

Great work
Tony

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Focused Solution Areas - Please contribute

Hey,

We are in the euro vision for three reasons.
1. "Euro vision" means what 'europeans see"
2. It has a following here since Australia fell in love with ABBA we are their 
biggest fans
3. We have tallent and, um...

Regards
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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Modified field display

2018-05-12 Thread michaelharrison619

Perfect! That has done it. Mark, thank you very much.

On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 8:32:50 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>
> This should do what you want:
>
> <$view field="modified" format="date" template="-0MM-0DD"/>
>
> HTH
> -- Mark
>
> On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 3:40:20 PM UTC-7, michaelha...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>>
>> I am trying to set up a list of tiddlers with the "Modified" field 
>> displayed. While I have managed to get that far, I am hoping it is possible 
>> to tweak the display slightly.
>>
>> So instead of displaying something like:
>>
>> 20180512141759481
>>
>> It would display:
>>
>> 2018-05-12
>>
>> Or something similar.
>>
>> I suspect this is actually really simple, but for the life of me I have 
>> not been able to figure it out.
>>
>> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thank you.
>> 0 Links
>>
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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Modified field display

2018-05-12 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

This should do what you want:

<$view field="modified" format="date" template="-0MM-0DD"/>

HTH
-- Mark

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> I am trying to set up a list of tiddlers with the "Modified" field 
> displayed. While I have managed to get that far, I am hoping it is possible 
> to tweak the display slightly.
>
> So instead of displaying something like:
>
> 20180512141759481
>
> It would display:
>
> 2018-05-12
>
> Or something similar.
>
> I suspect this is actually really simple, but for the life of me I have 
> not been able to figure it out.
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you.
> 0 Links
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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyPie in the sky?

2018-05-12 Thread Mat

http://backend.tiddlyspot.com

I've worked a bit more on it (and I noted it was saved in a very messy 
state last time). Still note it is not really official yet.

The actual work is mostly for myself to make it easy to fill in data (e.g 
hover to access field editors). I'll probably make it appear static from an 
end users point of view.

Still, the main work is to identify what criteria are there and which 
"back-ends" should be listed. Please come with input about what makes sense 
and what doesn't.

<:-)

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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyPie in the sky?

2018-05-12 Thread Mat

Arlen, thank you for your illustration.  - but I'm afraid I don't quite 
understand: Your illustration seems to be for the one filling out the 
matrix with the data (which I've assumed will have to be me). After this, 
your suggested checkboxes would merely serve as a *static* display to 
indicate which backend solutions that fulfill some criteria... in which 
case it would probably be better with some image instead of checkboxes. Or 
do I misunderstand you?

I'm thinking checkboxes might be useful as a means to select criteria from 
a list (as opposed to a matrix) that lists the criteria. Checking them 
could build up some filter that is used to list the backend solutions that 
fulfill those criteria.

Please clarify. You come with valuable input.

<:-)

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Re: [tw5] Re: [TW5] Updates to the MultiUser plugin and the Single Executable version

2018-05-12 Thread Arlen Beiler

Just making sure you know you seriously don't need the single executable
version! That sounds like huge overkill for something like this. I use
TiddlyServer in Termux all the time, so the MultiUser plugin should work
the same. I guess it would make setup easier, but I would sooner plug in a
hardware keyboard than go through all that! It sounds like it would take
more resources :D But hey, each to his own. Just my two cents.

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[tw5] [TW5] Modified field display

2018-05-12 Thread michaelharrison619

I am trying to set up a list of tiddlers with the "Modified" field 
displayed. While I have managed to get that far, I am hoping it is possible 
to tweak the display slightly.

So instead of displaying something like:

20180512141759481

It would display:

2018-05-12

Or something similar.

I suspect this is actually really simple, but for the life of me I have not 
been able to figure it out.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.
0 Links

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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Focused Designer areas - Please contribute

Morgaine & TonyM

Gaming, and especially RPG campaign plans I keep an eye out for. I do this 
because I think there is a significant use base growing for that in TW, 
here and and on Twitter, that will increase and get better if they can see 
examples. I also think gamers use TW, from campaign TW I have seen, very 
creatively. So they are good for anyone to see as example usage of TW.

Part of the current problem is it would be best to archive them so you 
don't lose them. But, I think to do that, better needs thinking through. I 
am sure folk will be happy to be archived IF the archive also offers some 
kind of resources back.

Early days. But I thought I'd mention it.

J.

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> Well yes, that's what it is.
>
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> On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 7:48 AM, TonyM  > wrote:
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>> I agree, I will include it. Could it share the same space as game 
>> campaigns?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Tony
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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Focused Designer areas - Please contribute

2018-05-12 Thread Morgaine O'Herne

Well yes, that's what it is.


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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Focused Solution Areas - Please contribute

It would be seriously good if some of us were doing live feeds via TW. The 
Guardian newspaper in UK right now is doing a hilarious live-feed 
commentary on Eurovision that neatly illustrates the point.

11m ago 22:10 
> 
>  
>
So that’s it for the singing! Well done everyone, we survived the first 
half. Now we just have to endure the interval act and the interminable 
scoring before 1500 journalists start frantically booking hotels in 
Limassol for May 2019.

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[tw5] what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

2018-05-12 Thread kelsang sherab

is there a keyboard shortcut for new tiddler?

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Focused Solution Areas - Please contribute

Perhaps TonyM can explain in a Tiddler why Australia is in Eurovision 
finals? :-)

On Saturday, 12 May 2018 22:53:03 UTC+2, Ste Wilson wrote:
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> The ultimate tiddly Wiki solution... 
> At least on this Saturday night... 
>
> Eurovision Tracker! 
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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyPie in the sky?

2018-05-12 Thread Arlen Beiler

I guess we could do something like this:

It looks like the checked boxes don't carry through when I send it like
this, but you get the idea.

TiddlyWiki  TiddlyServer
 Basic save enabled servers
 MultiUser Plugin

Serve single files
Update single files*
Serve other files
Upload new files
Serve a single data folder
Serve multiple data folders
Update data folders
Create new datafolders
Uses the server command**
Supports multiple users

* If "Serve other files" is also supported, it is likely that all existing
files may be updated, not just wikis.** NodeJS only: Loads the server
command code (node tiddlywiki.js --server) and uses it to handle requests.
Some load the code in the same process (less memory) and some load it as a
separate node process (better performance).


On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 12:36 AM, BurningTreeC  wrote:

> Odd associations mainly. It wasn't meant as a heavy comment. And I think
>> the number of people who understand "back-end" in its ribald sense here is
>> probably low. I actually think its not bad.
>>
>
> Only me.
>
>>
>> However, looking over that pretty vast list I'm not sure its quite right
>> either. HOWEVER, I completely get the pattern needs to emerge and shape a
>> bit yet. I'm interested to see how it develops. The discussion was
>> fascinating--the conceptual complexities. The table with the dropdowns is
>> neat.
>>
>>
>> Backend, however is also commonly used for "whats lying below/beyond"
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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.17

2018-05-12 Thread Ste Wilson

That's the way I do it. Haven't upgraded to new and shiny yet though. Will put 
some coal in my pc's boiler shortly... 

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Focused Solution Areas - Please contribute

2018-05-12 Thread Ste Wilson

The ultimate tiddly Wiki solution... 
At least on this Saturday night... 

Eurovision Tracker! 

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[tw5] Re: How to click on a D3 (svg) object to open a tiddler ?

Look at the handler inside the button widget for an example.

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/modules/widgets/button.js

or you can look at the invokeActions and invokeActionString in widget.js 
starting on line 513

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/modules/widgets/widget.js

you can take those examples and use them as the handler functions.

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[tw5] Re: How to click on a D3 (svg) object to open a tiddler ?

2018-05-12 Thread Silverfox

I'm still looking at a solution to make it work... but I'm stuck for many 
days with it

There are actually 2 different actions systems I don't know how to connect.

D3 has it own event detector with instruction like this one: 

> .on("dblclick",function(d){ cliclic(d.data.name); });


and TiddlyWiki also with instruction like this

> this.dispatchEvent({
> type: "tm-navigate",
> navigateTo: targetTiddler });


In this last case it actually needs to be triggered by a button widget or 
something similar.
I was thinking about a way to activate a virtual click of the button to 
open the corresponding tiddler, but I have no idea how to proceed...
Maybe there some other better way to proceed...

In this example http://archipel.tiddlyspot.com double clicking on any 
bubble opens an alert with the name of the clicked bubble, but I would like 
to open a tiddler instead

Any help will be highly appreciated

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[tw5] [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

Bob version 1.0.0 is now available.

It is the renamed version of the MultiUser plugin. For people who aren't
familiar with the old MultiUser plugin the basic features are:

- Serve multiple wikis
- Two-way syncing of changes between the browser and file system
- Multiple people can use and edit served wikis simultaneously
- A static file server for images and other media (include files from the
local file system in the wiki)

Changes from the last version of the MultiUser plugin are:
- Changing the name
- Adding a message that lets you stop queued scripts in progress

Plugin repo: https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob

Single executable version:
https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-SingleExecutable/releases/tag/1.0.0

Let me know if you find bugs.

Updating to Bob from MultiUser will take a few changes.

single executable version

If you are using the single executable version then you will need to edit
the tiddlywiki.info file in the IndexWiki folder. There is a line (probably
line 4) that reads
"OokTech/MultiUser"
change that line to
"OokTech/Bob"

plugin version

If you are using the plugin version, in addition to changing the
tiddlywiki.info file for your root wiki, you will need to either: 1) change
the remote url of the plugin repo or 2) just delete the old plugin and
clone Bob again.

Other than that, everything should be compatible.

If you want to support the development OokTech has a patreon page here
https://www.patreon.com/OokTech
or if you prefer there is a link for PayPal here
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick_button_id=ZG94CTLHTKYRE

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[tw5] Re: TW Twitter -- Computational Notebooks in TW? ...

2018-05-12 Thread Evan Balster

Hello, all —

Regarding what I mean by "computational notebooks" and why I took the time 
to write a robust math plugin:

I think it's really valuable to be able to interactively model information 
as part of a note-taking and problem-solving process.  TiddlyWiki was 
already very good at doing this for qualitative information, so I made 
effort to round out those capabilities for quantitative information.  My 
plugin is "spreadsheet-like" because information auto-refreshes like 
anything else in a TiddlyWiki.  I never actually implemented a spreadsheet 
UI for it.  Why would I? — tiddlers and fields already work like rows and 
columns.

I'm a C++ programmer (8 years full-time experience including compiler 
design, DSP, rendering engines, multithreading), but I don't think 
imperative languages like C++ or Python are ideal for what I call 
"computational notetaking".  This is because it takes substantial mental 
effort to design the execution flow, state management and data structures 
in an imperative language, and this means breaking away from the topic of 
the notetaking.  People who use spreadsheets don't think of themselves as 
programmers because they don't have to do that kind of juggling, but it's 
possible to design extremely complicated software in that environment.  The 
key difference is that you can focus on one small element at a time without 
getting tangled up in the architecture of your program.  Less cognitive 
load there means more sustained attention toward understanding a problem 
which may already be straining one's cognitive faculties — and as somebody 
who gets into that situation often with my research, I think that has the 
potential to expand my capability to think and solve complex problems.

As much as I've discussed improving TiddlyWiki's scalability, I don't think 
computational notetaking tools must be useful for designing applications or 
scalable software.  "Notebook" implies to me that the contents might exist 
for the sole benefit of the person using it, and that the information is 
easy to pass around.

(For more on the "interactive modeling" I'm talking about, look into explorable 
explanations .  I've designed many interactive models 
for my own use with imperative languages, and have prototyped some 
explorables 

with my plugin.)

On Saturday, 12 May 2018 12:56:52 UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>
> "It pairs the functionality of word processing 
>  software with both the 
> shell  and kernel 
>  of that 
> notebook's programming language 
> ."
>
> That sounds a lot like TW. TW would need a math plugin to easily get to 
> the "computational" part. Possibly a platform for students or fieldworkers 
> collecting data.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 10:33:53 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> If you wondering what a "Computational Notebook" is and what the current 
>> enthusiasm about them is about, read ...
>>
>> 1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notebook_interface ... which shows the 
>> idea is not new, and immediately you can see that TW can be that ...
>>
>> 2 - https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-01676633/document ... a very 
>> good academic text about them.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: TW Twitter -- Computational Notebooks in TW? ...

2018-05-12 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

"It pairs the functionality of word processing 
 software with both the shell 
 and kernel 
 of that 
notebook's programming language 
."

That sounds a lot like TW. TW would need a math plugin to easily get to the 
"computational" part. Possibly a platform for students or fieldworkers 
collecting data.

-- Mark

On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 10:33:53 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
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> If you wondering what a "Computational Notebook" is and what the current 
> enthusiasm about them is about, read ...
>
> 1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notebook_interface ... which shows the 
> idea is not new, and immediately you can see that TW can be that ...
>
> 2 - https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-01676633/document ... a very 
> good academic text about them.
>

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[tw5] Re: Minimal Ruby Server

2018-05-12 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

You should add this as a PR as saver #21 at TiddlyWiki.com

Will this also serve images?

-- Mark

On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 7:32:45 AM UTC-7, Jim wrote:
>
> I use Ruby and so always have it installed. If you do too, here's a 
> minimal server using Ruby Webrick. It just serves up files from the same 
> folder and handles saving. 
>
> Once running, just point yor web browser at localhost:8000 to view the 
> folder listing, and click on your wiki html file.
>
> https://gist.github.com/jimfoltz/ee791c1bdd30ce137bc23cce826096da
>
>
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Re: [tw5] TW Twitter -- Computational Notebooks in TW? ...

2018-05-12 Thread 'Andreas Hahn' via TiddlyWiki

Well,
In my opinion TW is ill-suited as a computational notebook and the
already established solution in the Form of Jupyter is more than up to
the task. The only think I can see happen is TW having an interface to
the Jupyter Kernels, but even then, it doesn't quite fit TW's model.

The main problems seem to be:

- TW has a monolithic design, whereas for a computational notebook, the
Jupyter kernel <-> Interface divide serves it very well as you can
detach computation from the code/notes and therefore scale things much
better and work with different languages. For TW all I could think of
here would be WebWorkers.

- TW has a limit on data size. Nowadays, most datasets, no matter how
small are already larger than what TW might be able to handle, so they
would have to be in an external file/files either way.

So while I can see it being nice to have TW as an interface where your
results get stored and commands are issued, I don't quite see it play
out any of its advantages in this field and think TW's architecture puts
both hurdles and limitations on what you would be able to do.

/Andreas

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[tw5] Re: TW Twitter -- Computational Notebooks in TW? ...

If you wondering what a "Computational Notebook" is and what the current 
enthusiasm about them is about, read ...

1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notebook_interface ... which shows the 
idea is not new, and immediately you can see that TW can be that ...

2 - https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-01676633/document ... a very good 
academic text about them.

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[tw5] TW Twitter -- Computational Notebooks in TW? ...

This didn't go publicly far yet because TiddlyWiki, though slowly growing
on Twitter, doesn't yet have quite enough followers. (I'm sure it will
come. Its grown a lot over the last year.)

But this was a very interesting recent conversation about "Computational
Notebooks".

I not seen anything about them here so thought I'd just post a bit of it.
Here is just the last part of it ...

Greg Wilson @gvwilson 5d

I keep coming back to TiddlyWiki tiddlywiki.com
and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TiddlyWiki

Greg Wilson @gvwilson 5d

What would a computational notebook based on TiddlyWiki look like? Is there
a grad student out there somewhere exploring this space?

Mike Stok @MikeStok 5d

Replying to @gvwilson
@joeerl might have an idea of what a
computational notebook based on TiddlyWiki might look like… maybe

@TiddlyTweeter
Replying to @MikeStok @gvwilson @joeerl
... also ask @EvanBalster

Evan @EvanBalster
Replying to @TiddlyTweeter @MikeStok and 2 others
Super interested in this topic. I implemented recursive spreadsheet math
for TW to probe this space. evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/for…

Greg Wilson @gvwilson 4d

Replying to @EvanBalster @TiddlyTweeter and 2 others
I'd be very interested in chatting more - I'm gvwilson@**.com if you
have time to do so. Thanks!

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.17

2018-05-12 Thread Lost Admin

Has anyone upgraded to 5.1.17 on TiddlySpot?

My personally hosted TiddlyWikis are on WebDAV and they worked like a charm
but http://thelostadmin.tiddlyspot.com/ is not saving back to Tiddlyspot.
It could just be very slow as we are all trying to send updates there.

I couldn't find clear instructions on how to upgrade to TiddlySpot. So, I
do it this way:

1) load my TiddlySpot (http://thelostadmin.tiddlyspot.com) into my browser,
save to local disk (i.e. my downloads folder)
2) open http://www.tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html and drag/drop the file from
the downloads folder.
3) press the save button on the freshly upgraded tiddlywiki
4) load the file I just saved from the downloads folder, and make sure it
is the new version
5) enter the tiddlyspot credentials into the save config and press the
checkmark-in-a-circle to save.

It's been about 15 minutes and no saved notification or any error messages
in TiddlyWiki.

What did I do wrong?

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.17

2018-05-12 Thread Lost Admin

Thank you all. That is great. I'm particularly happy with the fix to 
WebDAV. I can confirm it works properly on Apache 2.4. I'm very happy.

On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 7:39:05 AM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’m delighted to announce the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.17:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>
> There are several important bug fixes and some minor improvements:
>
>- Fixed incorrect location of the plugin library
>- Fixed problems with the “new journal” button overwriting data under 
>some circumstances
>- Fixed some problems with Etag handling with the WebDAV saver
>- Fixed animation timing problem with the reveal widget
>- Improved usability of the “red screen of embarrassment”
>- Added support for integral metadata in CSS files
>
> You can upgrade your existing single file wikis at: 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>
> As usual, please exercise caution when working with an upgrade, and take 
> care to take plenty of backups.
>
> Finally, I’d like the thank everyone who contributed to this release:
>
> • @BramChen
> • @BurningTreeC
> • @danielo515
> • @icarito
> • @ldorigo
> • @mklauber
> • @sukima
> • @tobibeer
> • @twMat
>
> Feel free to leave any comments or questions here.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Updates to the MultiUser plugin and the Single Executable version

Ciao Jed

This thread has got so long (good sign) that on Google Groups its just 
started paginating...



I think its a good idea to start a new continuation thread because 
paginated GG is very unwieldy for web users.

Best wishes
Josiah

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Re: [tw5] Re: [TW5] Updates to the MultiUser plugin and the Single Executable version

2018-05-12 Thread Xavier Cazin

Hi Jed,

For the record, although the armv7 executable doesn't work directly on
Termux (on my Android 6.01 Fairphone), it does work like a charm on a Linux
subsystem (Debian Stretch in my case).

Android device owners out there, if you are somewhat familiar with Linux,
here are the main steps:

   1. Install the Termux app on your Android device
   2. Get the https://github.com/sp4rkie/debian-on-termux script and tweak
   it if you want (I only changed the localtime)
   3. Follow the Readme instructions in order to execute the script from a
   directory that resides on your main sdcard (otherwise it can't be executed)
   4. Wait about 30 minutes until the Debian installation completes
   5. Execute the *enter_deb* script
   6. *apt install xdg-utils elinks* # seems a bit overkill as the only
   reason is to allow Bob to open its console...
   7. exit Linux and re-execute *enter_deb* with the *-n* option in order
   to log in as the normal Termux user
   8. download tiddlyArmv7 from here
   https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-SingleExecutable/releases/ and execute \o/

The next executions only require to first enter the Linux system from
Termux using* enter_deb -n*.
This is not exactly the snap aimed by these executables, and I guess that
those who don't fear this procedure won't be afraid to install the normal
MultiUser plugin on Termux instead. But I'm sure there are some advantages
of using Bob that way, if only because it launches quicker than with the
usual node tiddlywiki command.

Cheers,
Xavier.

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On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 10:59 PM, Jed Carty  wrote:

> The single executable versions are updated.
>
> I added an armv7 executable, I have no idea if it worked or not. Compiling
> it resulted in a lot of warnings.
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Re: [tw5] Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.17

2018-05-12 Thread Enneco Gotzon

Thank you very much for all your wonderful work!!!
@Jeremy
@BramChen
@BurningTreeC
@danielo515
@icarito
@ldorigo
@mklauber
@sukima
@tobibeer
@twMat
@et al

On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 1:38 PM, Jeremy Ruston 
wrote:

> I’m delighted to announce the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.17:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>
> There are several important bug fixes and some minor improvements:
>
>- Fixed incorrect location of the plugin library
>- Fixed problems with the “new journal” button overwriting data under
>some circumstances
>- Fixed some problems with Etag handling with the WebDAV saver
>- Fixed animation timing problem with the reveal widget
>- Improved usability of the “red screen of embarrassment”
>- Added support for integral metadata in CSS files
>
> You can upgrade your existing single file wikis at:
> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>
> As usual, please exercise caution when working with an upgrade, and take
> care to take plenty of backups.
>
> Finally, I’d like the thank everyone who contributed to this release:
>
> • @BramChen
> • @BurningTreeC
> • @danielo515
> • @icarito
> • @ldorigo
> • @mklauber
> • @sukima
> • @tobibeer
> • @twMat
>
> Feel free to leave any comments or questions here.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
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[tw5] Minimal Ruby Server

2018-05-12 Thread Jim

I use Ruby and so always have it installed. If you do too, here's a minimal 
server using Ruby Webrick. It just serves up files from the same folder and 
handles saving. 

Once running, just point yor web browser at localhost:8000 to view the 
folder listing, and click on your wiki html file.

https://gist.github.com/jimfoltz/ee791c1bdd30ce137bc23cce826096da


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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Updates to the MultiUser plugin and the Single Executable version

Ciao Jed

Just an informational note on the "external file location" thing. I don't 
need a reply.

One of the things that Bob The Enabler does is permit a user to re-wrap Bob 
with wikis and settings and re-distribute it in packages. 

I think that is a good possibility for distribution of sets of TW. But the 
security angle you concerned about can easily go out the window in that 
process. 

IMO, it would be better to enable it (since it easy to do so) but, maybe, 
FORCE warning flags*. 

JUST a thought.

(FYI, in my large apartment the only people who can access my wikis over a 
LAN are me and My Doubles, Fred  & Ginger :).

Best wishes
Josiah

Jed Carty wrote:
>
> I may not be the most responsible person in the world but I am not so 
> irresponsible that I am willing to intentionally put someone in that 
> position.
>
> ... I don't want to put default values in places where it could cause that 
> sort of problem.
>

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[tw5] Re: Extract Tiddler Files From HTML Tiddlywiki

2018-05-12 Thread Jim

You'll need a node executable  and the TW5 
source . 

I'm using Windows. Here's a batch file example:

set node_exe="C:\Users\Jim\Downloads\node-v8.11.1-win-x64\node.exe"
set tw_js="C:\Users\Jim\Downloads\TiddlyWiki5-5.1.17\tiddlywiki.js"

set wiki_html=%1

%node_exe% %tw_js% --verbose --load %wiki_html% ^
--output ./tiddlers ^
--render "[!is[system]]" "[encodeuricomponent[]addsuffix[.tid]]"  
"text/plain" "$:/core/templates/tid-tiddler"



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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Focused Designer areas - Please contribute

I agree, I will include it. Could it share the same space as game campaigns?

Thanks
Tony

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Focused Solution Areas - Please contribute

Post script,

Tiddlywiki will be everywhere including multi user however I plan to do this 
through other mature website and microblogging platforms. This is because 
tiddlywiki is not yet as scalable nore does it have a rich security and user 
model.

I hope in time we may replace these other platforms with tiddlywiki, this 
approach may even drive development of tiddlywiki.

Regards
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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Focused Solution Areas - Please contribute

Yes, I intend to solve that problem,

To do so, I need to identify how to organise the information. Next I need to 
find a way to make it easy to collect and publish the details. Now, although I 
can do a lot of this because there are many resources, I cant do it all, and 
maintaining it myself would be imposible, so I have a strategy to make it easy 
for everyone to contribute because they always get more back than they give.

Regards
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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Updates to the MultiUser plugin and the Single Executable version

2018-05-12 Thread Stobot

Whoops - I was sure that I was already using the newest one, but I must not 
have been. Swapped it out and I no longer have that issue. Sorry for the 
false alarm Jed.

On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 9:08:15 AM UTC-4, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> For the looping part, are you using the newest version? I updated the 
> release soon after uploading it the first time based on feedback from 
> Xavier that fixed that everywhere I could find.
>
> The error message is because the shadow tiddler doesn't have a file and it 
> tries to open something that doesn't exist. It isn't a problem and I can 
> disable the error.
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Updates to the MultiUser plugin and the Single Executable version

For the looping part, are you using the newest version? I updated the 
release soon after uploading it the first time based on feedback from 
Xavier that fixed that everywhere I could find.

The error message is because the shadow tiddler doesn't have a file and it 
tries to open something that doesn't exist. It isn't a problem and I can 
disable the error.

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Updates to the MultiUser plugin and the Single Executable version

2018-05-12 Thread Stobot

Jed,

I don't know if this is new, but I started noticing odd behavior when 
modifying $:/DefaultTiddlers, which is one of the first things I do for all 
new wikis. It seems to send the node window into a loop.

For instance, changing (via Control Panel) the DefaultTiddlers from 
[[Hello!]] to [[Home]] by typing over, results in *93* blocks that look 
like this:

Rename Tiddler  undefined  to  $__DefaultTiddlers
saved file C:\Users\stobbea\Documents\TiddlyWiki\Wikis\test1\tiddlers\
DefaultTiddlers.tid
Rename Tiddler  undefined  to  $__DefaultTiddlers
Delete Tiddler  C:\Users\stobbea\Documents\TiddlyWiki\Wikis\test1\tiddlers / 
DefaultTiddlers
Deleted tiddler file DefaultTiddlers
Delete Tiddler  C:\Users\stobbea\Documents\TiddlyWiki\Wikis\test1\tiddlers / 
DefaultTiddlers
Deleted tiddler file DefaultTiddlers
saved file C:\Users\stobbea\Documents\TiddlyWiki\Wikis\test1\tiddlers\
DefaultTiddlers.tid
Delete Tiddler  C:\Users\stobbea\Documents\TiddlyWiki\Wikis\test1\tiddlers / 
DefaultTiddlers
Deleted tiddler file DefaultTiddlers
{ Error: ENOENT: no such file or directory, open 
'C:\Users\stobbea\Documents\TiddlyWiki\Wikis\test1\tiddlers\DefaultTiddlers.tid'
at Object.fs.openSync (fs.js:663:18)
at Object.fs.openSync (pkg/prelude/bootstrap.js:483:32)
at Object.fs.readFileSync (fs.js:568:33)
at Object.fs.readFileSync (pkg/prelude/bootstrap.js:675:36)
at Object.$tw.loadTiddlersFromFile (C:\snapshot\SingleExecutable\boot\
boot.js:1503:13)
at Object.$tw.nodeMessageHandlers.saveTiddler ($:/plugins/OokTech/
MultiUser/NodeMessageHandlers.js:107:43)
at WebSocket.incoming ($:/plugins/OokTech/MultiUser/NodeWebSocketsSetup.
js:182:57)
at WebSocket.emit (events.js:159:13)
at Receiver._receiver.onmessage ($:/plugins/OokTech/MultiUser/WS/
WebSocket.js:156:47)
at Receiver.dataMessage ($:/plugins/OokTech/MultiUser/WS/Receiver.js:402
:14)
  errno: -4058,
  code: 'ENOENT',
  syscall: 'open',
  path: 
'C:\\Users\\stobbea\\Documents\\TiddlyWiki\\Wikis\\test1\\tiddlers\\DefaultTiddlers.tid'
 
}


Sometimes this results in the area shown in Control Panel to have many many 
lines of blank rows after what's in there. 

I'm using the TiddlyWin.exe file (RC5, but happened with at least the one 
previous release, can test all if necessary) on Windows 10 and Firefox 60.0

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[tw5] TW in Public -- "JS & #NoSQL databases ..."

An overview of a talk to a computer club in Tanzania about using databases 
under JavaScript, using TW as an exemplar...

https://rawgit.com/abesamma/NoSQL-for-DarJS/master/DarJS.html

Abraham Samma is very active on Twitter about TiddlyWiki 
 at @ABSamma 
.

He's developing @maarfapad  for TW, which 
has some similarities to Noteself, and some differences. 

@TiddlyTweeter 

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Updates to the MultiUser plugin and the Single Executable version

@TiddlyTweeter,

For the mime types the only reason I used the list I did is that those were
the types that I remembered. I will look online and add video types and any
others that people suggest to the defaults.

As for setting the default file serving location I am still waffling about
that. The problem isn't that I don't want people to be able to do it, the
problem is that it needs to be their decision to do it. If I have the
default path set up and a button that says 'click here to serve files' than
I don't think that most people will just click the button and not think
about it because it is convenient, and the same people who do that are
likely to also set it to serve on 0.0.0.0 all the time because that is
convenient. So if you have someone who does that and they just leave
everything in their downloads folder than anything they download is
available to anyone on the local network. Most of the time that isn't a
huge problem, but when it is a problem than you have someone losing things
like tax documents and banking passwords.

I may not be the most responsible person in the world but I am not so
irresponsible that I am willing to intentionally put someone in that
position.

There is probably a better way to set things up than what I have made, but
I don't want to put default values in places where it could cause that sort
of problem.

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[tw5] Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.17

2018-05-12 Thread Jeremy Ruston

I’m delighted to announce the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.17:

https://tiddlywiki.com/

There are several important bug fixes and some minor improvements:
Fixed incorrect location of the plugin library
Fixed problems with the “new journal” button overwriting data under some
circumstances
Fixed some problems with Etag handling with the WebDAV saver
Fixed animation timing problem with the reveal widget
Improved usability of the “red screen of embarrassment”
Added support for integral metadata in CSS files
You can upgrade your existing single file wikis at:
https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html

As usual, please exercise caution when working with an upgrade, and take care
to take plenty of backups.

Finally, I’d like the thank everyone who contributed to this release:

• @BramChen
• @BurningTreeC
• @danielo515
• @icarito
• @ldorigo
• @mklauber
• @sukima
• @tobibeer
• @twMat

Feel free to leave any comments or questions here.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Updates to the MultiUser plugin and the Single Executable version

Ed,

I think I see what happened. In an ideal world what you did should work I
haven't made it work that way yet.

When you click on the + button to add a new property there are two fields,
one for the name and one for the value. It looks like you copied the full
line into the name field. What you need to do is put the name part in the
name field and the value in the other field. The name field is the shorter
text box that you copied things into, the value field is the long text box
below it.

So for each mime-type you put the file extension with the . as the name,
like
.mp4
and then in the other text box you put the mime-type like this
video/mp4

unfortunately adding these from the interface in the wiki means you have to
do all of them individually.

To avoid having to do that you can instead edit the tiddler
$:/WikiSettings/split/mimeMap which was created when you made the mimeMap
object in the settings (so if you do this again in the future it won't
exist until you create that object in the settings interface) and edit that
tiddler so this is its text (replace text that is currently in the tiddler
but don't touch any other fields):

{
".ico": "image/x-icon",

".html": "text/html",
".js": "text/javascript",
".json": "application/json",
".css": "text/css",
".png": "image/png",
".jpg": "image/jpeg",
".jpeg": "image/jpeg",
".wav": "audio/wav",
".mp3": "audio/mpeg",
".svg": "image/svg+xml",
".pdf": "application/pdf",
".doc": "application/msword",
".gif": "image/gif",

".mp4": "video/mp4",

".mov": "video/quicktime"

}

I wasn't expecting something like this to be edited. I need to come up with
a better interface that makes some sense to people who don't have
experience with it. Let me know if it works.

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