[tw5] Re: TiddlyDesktop keyboard shortcuts

[TonyM]

Zachary,

The Keyboard Shortcuts set in ControlPanel > Keyboard Shortcuts 
works in TiddlDesktop and I believe you can edit and add to these

Is this not sufficient?

Note: Results may vary with the codemirror editor.

Regards
Tony


On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 11:11:19 AM UTC+10, Zachary Storer wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Is there a way to configure keyboard shortcuts for TiddlyDesktop? I want 
> to add some vim text editor keybindings.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -
>
> Zak
>

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[tw5] TiddlyDesktop keyboard shortcuts

[Zachary Storer]

Hello,

Is there a way to configure keyboard shortcuts for TiddlyDesktop? I want to 
add some vim text editor keybindings.

Thanks,

-

Zak

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Re: [tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

[TonyM]

Jeremy,

You mention

> One aspect that particularly interests me is the production of redundant 
> static pages to reproduce the functionality of a dynamic experience. For 
> example, consider a table of a few columns of data that we’d like to 
> publish such that the user can click on a column heading to sort by it. The 
> usual approach would be a small JS plugin that rearranges the DOM when the 
> column header is clicked. Instead, we could pre-generate static HTML 
> representations of every combination of sorting for the table, and then 
> construct links between them. So, if the initial rendering is ordered by 
> first name, and the user clicks on the column for the second name, they 
> would actually be navigating to a different rendering of the data sorted by 
> second name.
>

What you propose would be very helpful, however I was thinking it may be 
quicker and easier to hand the creation of the alternate static views to 
the user, but provide a way to "overlay them" in a dynamic design so that 
they appear in the static HTML output. This would possibly empower 
additional dynamic experience emulation.

I'm thinking for example a list field on a tiddler indicating the 3 
tiddlers representing the different sort orders.
Even simply cloning the sort-able tiddler for each sorted result (change 
sort filter) and altering the headings to refer to each sort view, all we 
need is for the generation of static HTML to recognise these and only 
display the currently selected "view".

I suppose I am interested in generalising as much as possible any solution.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] concerning the {display:none} value for title, subtitle

[barrowgloom]

With custom styling by data tag to override styling for only certain 
tiddlers to hide title and subtitle; the custom stylesheet attempt is 
effecting all tiddlers.  I was assuming its a global modifier but I get the 
same effect with trying to adjust normal css values such as font size for 
the title.  So one would thinnk, the custom override for certian tiddlers 
wasn't working but the first css value, padding, is effecting only the data 
tagged tiddlers as desired.  So I must be erring with the cryptic chirology 
(ie coding : ) )

1) using $:/tags/Stylesheet tag for the custom stylesheet tiddler, text/css 
content type

2) using the data tags with the usual css listing format (spaces removed 
for this post)

eg, this all thats in the text body of the tiddler, no 

Re: [tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

[Paul Netsaver]

I think that this kind of dynamic simulation could offer some possibilities 
with a small number of combinations only.
By the way, imagine that in the rendered html containing tables one wants 
to use an external pure js pagination library.
I can see that Epub3 format can execute also scripts in JS subfolder.

Why is not technically possible to write JS code in some tiddler belonging 
to epub project and appending references to it in the final html pages? 
There's some design constraint?

e.g. create tiddler sort-table.js, adding sort capabilities to all tables 
with class 'sortable', add it to the project, then add also tiddler 
chapter1, containing a table with class 'sortable'. The sort-table.js 
tiddler should be published in the JS folder of the book and references to 
it () could be added (automatically? 
or via processing instruction in every tiddler?) to html tiddler(s).

In a similar concept: is it possible to create (system/common/shadow or 
whatever) tiddlers containing js code which is to be appended as script to 
some tiddler 'after its rendering to html', so to be executed by the 
browser when it's loading the final product 
e.g. if I tag a 'sort-table.js' tiddler with tiddler names 'hosts', 
'addresses', etc. would mean that TW should append js reference to 
sort-table in #hosts and #addresses html subcode. This behavoiur (if 
possible!) coud be kept when developing an eventual ebook plugin.
What am I missing?

Thanks and regards,
Paul Netsaver,
Rome, IT


  

Il giorno venerdì 25 maggio 2018 10:43:28 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston ha scritto:
>
> I very much like the idea of an epub3 output format for TW5.
>
> As others have noted, the epub3 format itself can be fairly simple (plus 
> the general rule that it is always orders of magnitude easier to generate a 
> particular format than it is to parse/accept that format). We already have 
> a JSZip plugin that can handle the creation of a ZIP file from a bunch of 
> individual files.
>
> One aspect that particularly interests me is the production of redundant 
> static pages to reproduce the functionality of a dynamic experience. For 
> example, consider a table of a few columns of data that we’d like to 
> publish such that the user can click on a column heading to sort by it. The 
> usual approach would be a small JS plugin that rearranges the DOM when the 
> column header is clicked. Instead, we could pre-generate static HTML 
> representations of every combination of sorting for the table, and then 
> construct links between them. So, if the initial rendering is ordered by 
> first name, and the user clicks on the column for the second name, they 
> would actually be navigating to a different rendering of the data sorted by 
> second name.
>
> I believe that this approach could go a long way: a sort of flipbook 
> approach to user interface design.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>
> On 25 May 2018, at 04:02, Greg Davis  
> wrote:
>
> Mark S.
>
> Hi,
> Well if it is Science Fiction there is always Baen official slush for 
> publication  http://baen.com/
>
> If you have not given it to a beta reader and/or editor. You can try the 
> crit forums on Baen's Bar (have to register) the Slush Pile is for general 
> critiques. Other critique forums are Baen's Universe Slush is for short 
> stories and 1632 Slush is for stories in Eric Flint's Ring of Fire Universe.
>  http://bar.baen.com/
>
> On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 9:48:31 PM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> I guess we're all in the same boat. I've got one medium story finished, 
>> but wasn't sure where to submit it.
>>
>> --
>>
>> On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 7:44:58 PM UTC-7, Greg Davis wrote:
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> GO FOR IT ! !
>>>
>>> Hey, I was IT. Life interrupted but I am trying to get back to the 
>>> project I started along time ago. First drafts and notes scattered all 
>>> over. Wish I'd had TiddlyWiki back then to keep track of everything.
>>>
>>> Best Wishes,
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 7:12:04 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:

 Josiah,

 The incentive is very powerful for a sub-sector of users, when I was 
 younger I wanted to be a cosmologist and science fiction writer.  An IT 
 career happened instead. Only recently I started to think about writing 
 again because I could build a universe, a solar system and a number of 
 planets and document it in TiddlyWiki. To think that within that wiki the 
 eventual content can be produced then published to a common reader format 
 sounds great. We can do this to PDF with our browsers so what extra value 
 is direct to epub offer? I imagine a richer index and more?

 If however there are good PDF to epub converters I would not waste our 
 time with another export format but add it to improving PDF outputs.

 Regards
 Tony

>>>  
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Feature request - canonical uri button.

[stefct4]

On Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 10:40:27 PM UTC+2, ste...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> Downside: I believe that a separate tiddler/drop area needs to be created 
> for other image types, e.g. PNG. 
>
>
> Here is an updated version of my code which allows users to pre-select a 
file type (GIF, JPEG, PNG or SVG) before importing an image:

\define embedded-image-actions()
<$wikify name="tiddlercontent2" mode="inline" text='<>'>
<$action-createtiddler $basetitle="New Image" _canonical_uri=<<
tiddlercontent2>> type={{Embed Image}} $savetitle="Embed 
Image!!tiddlertitle"/>
<$action-navigate $to={{Embed Image!!tiddlertitle}}/>

\end


<$droppable actions=<>>

Drop image 
(<$list filter="[[Embed 
Image]get[text]]+[removeprefix[image/]]">{{!!title}}) here
 

Image type: 
<$select tiddler='Embed Image'>
GIF
JPEG
PNG
SVG


Of course, automatic detection would be preferable.

Cheers,

Stef

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[tw5] Re: Concatenating Data Tiddler Values

[Mohammad]

Many thanks Matthew!
It works now

Cheers
Mohammad


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[tw5] Re: how: add icons for tags (SVG files)

[Matthew Lauber]

The svg showing next to the tag is normal.  A tag's icon is specified by 
putting a title into the the "icon" field on the tag tiddler (note: not the 
tagged tiddler the tiddler with the tag string as it's title).  Another 
part of the core also looks at this field to determine what, if any, icon 
should be displayed next to the title when viewing the tag tiddler.  
Unfortunately, I don't believe there's a simple way to change this, short 
of overwriting the viewTemplate that displays it.  (Which depending on how 
interested you are in the TW internals, is not that difficult, and kind of 
enlightening) As far as the bold and white on dark, I'm afraid I can't tell 
you, but I'd look at the other svg icons and see if they have and css 
classes that might be involved.



On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 8:13:53 AM UTC-4, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> Oh! So close...
>
> was missing tag icon for it ($:/tags/Image), so now it DOES show. Kinda. 
> It's not bold like the other icons, and the icon looks.. bad. doesn't 
> change to white on dark background tag "pills" if you know what I mean. 
> Also, the SVG shows next to the tiddler's title (if it's tagged with it) 
> not sure that's normal. I thought it was only showing in the tag "pill"
>
> On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 8:02:01 AM UTC-4, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the help guys. I'm sorry for the delay, you know, work gets in 
>> the way but I'm back here to try. 
>>
>> What I did is look more closely at the made SVG files in TW, and realize 
>> that they are CSSed (it's a verb now..!) to be of a specific size. I 
>> resized the *image* to be that size (previously it was too big) and then I 
>> saw the whole thing. The original image seems to be too big to be a tag 
>> icon. 
>>
>> Now, what I'm trying to figure out is how to tell TW that it has a new 
>> icon. When I extend the drop-down menu for icons in the tag editor, my new 
>> tag is not listed. Maybe I forgot to tag it or something, I did save it 
>> under core images though. Suggestions? 
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Concatenating Data Tiddler Values

[Matthew Lauber]

You need the wikify widget.  It's express purpose is to parse wiki text and 
store it's output for use elsewhere inside it.  So in this example, you 
would want the following

<$wikify name="caption" text="{{myConfig##Tag}}-Course348">
<$button>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" 
 title={{myConfig##Name}}  tags={{myConfig##Tag}} caption=<>
 page={{myConfig##Page}} text=<>/>
New Slide







On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 1:41:23 PM UTC-4, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Is it possible to retrieve and concatenate values from a Data Tiddler 
> (Dictionary)?
>
> To explain in a bit more details consider the following code:
>
>
>
>- Data Tiddler (*myConfig*) contains
>
> Name: Lecture01
> Tag: Lec01
> Page: 001
> Group: Course 348
>
>
>
>
>- A button to create a new tiddler using data from the above data 
>tiddler
>
>
> <$button>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" 
>  title={{myConfig##Title}}  tags={{myConfig##Tag}} 
> caption="{{myConfig##Tag}}-Course348"
>  page={{myConfig##Page}} text=<>/>
> New Slide
> 
>
> Note: content is a macro creates some texts to be inserted as a new 
> tiddler text.
>
> This code creates a caption filed for the new tiddler, its value is
>
> caption="{{myConfig##Tag}}-Course348"
>
>
> It may be the result of concatenation of other values like
>
> caption="{{myConfig##Tag}}-{{myConfig##Group}}"
>
>
> Is there any short solution to this?
>
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Concatenating Data Tiddler

[Mohammad]

Is it possible to retrieve and concatenate values from a Data Tiddler 
(Dictionary)?

To explain in a bit more details consider the following code:



   - Data Tiddler (*myConfig*) contains

Name: Lecture01
Tag: Lec01
Page: 001
Group: Course 348




   - A button to create a new tiddler using data from the above data tiddler


<$button>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" 
 title={{myConfig##Title}}  tags={{myConfig##Tag}} 
caption="{{myConfig##Tag}}-Course348"
 page={{myConfig##Title}} text=<>/>
New Slide



In this code I create a caption filed for the new tiddler its value is

caption="{{myConfig##Tag}}-Course348"


It may be the results of other values like

caption="{{myConfig##Tag}}-{{myConfig##Group}}


Is there any short solution to this?


Cheers
Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Download a Tiddler Using Python/Bash

[Matthew Lauber]

Glad to help.  If you do end up figuring out how to parse tiddlywiki 
wikitext in python/bash, please post about it to the group.  

On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 10:43:30 AM UTC-4, j3d1H wrote:
>
> Matthew Lauber: Sorry for getting back to you so late, but this works 
> perfectly for what I need! Thank you.
>
> On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 11:28:05 AM UTC-4, Matthew Lauber wrote:
>>
>> I don't think there's really anything else someone's made.  You can try 
>> to do HTML munging using BeautifulSoup in python.  Should be able to use 
>> something like:
>>
>> with open("NameOfFile.html") as f:
>>  soup = BeautifulSoup(f.read(), "html.parser")
>>
>>
>> soup.find_all('div', attrs={'title': 'NameOfTiddler'})
>>
>> That'll get the the Div that represents the tiddler, but you'll have to 
>> figure out how to parse it.  And it relies on BeautifulSoup4, which you can 
>> get with 
>> pip install beautifulsoup4
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 8:20:29 AM UTC-4, j3d1H wrote:
>>>
>>> Jed: I would really rather not use node, it hasn't worked very well for 
>>> me in the past. Any other possible solution?
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: TW Hesitations On Showing -- #1

[Ste Wilson]

My understanding of the gdpr is 
1.you have to opt in to any data stored about you and what it's going to be 
used for. 
2. It has to be securely stored (which might be why your school says cloud 
storage is allowed).
3. Don't keep data any longer than you need to.
4. You have a right to see any data about you. 
I'm sure there is much complexity I've not grasped. 

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Re: [tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

The thing with redundant copies is, wouldn't the user have to use the back 
key? Or a "return" link? And how would you hide those redundant copies?

-- Mark

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 9:58:47 AM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>
> Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> [...] pre-generate static HTML representations of every combination of 
>> sorting for the table, and then construct links between them. So, if the 
>> initial rendering is ordered by first name, and the user clicks on the 
>> column for the second name, they would actually be navigating to a 
>> different rendering of the data sorted by second name.
>>
>
> Redundant copies, covering every output case? Now that idea was unexpected.
>
> Might CSS ordering be an option? 
> https://www.w3schools.com/cssref/css3_pr_order.asp
>  
> <:-)
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

[Mat]

Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> [...] pre-generate static HTML representations of every combination of 
> sorting for the table, and then construct links between them. So, if the 
> initial rendering is ordered by first name, and the user clicks on the 
> column for the second name, they would actually be navigating to a 
> different rendering of the data sorted by second name.
>

Redundant copies, covering every output case? Now that idea was unexpected.

Might CSS ordering be an option? 
https://www.w3schools.com/cssref/css3_pr_order.asp
 
<:-)

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Re: [tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

[Mat]

Mark S. wrote:
>
> Is there code in the core already to make static pages? Or only in the 
> node version?
>

C'mon Mark, you know there is. Tiddler toolbar > Export tiddler (static 
html)

<:-)

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Re: [tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Is there code in the core already to make static pages? Or only in the node 
version?

Thanks!
-- Mark

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 1:43:28 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I very much like the idea of an epub3 output format for TW5.
>
> As others have noted, the epub3 format itself can be fairly simple (plus 
> the general rule that it is always orders of magnitude easier to generate a 
> particular format than it is to parse/accept that format). We already have 
> a JSZip plugin that can handle the creation of a ZIP file from a bunch of 
> individual files.
>
> One aspect that particularly interests me is the production of redundant 
> static pages to reproduce the functionality of a dynamic experience. For 
> example, consider a table of a few columns of data that we’d like to 
> publish such that the user can click on a column heading to sort by it. The 
> usual approach would be a small JS plugin that rearranges the DOM when the 
> column header is clicked. Instead, we could pre-generate static HTML 
> representations of every combination of sorting for the table, and then 
> construct links between them. So, if the initial rendering is ordered by 
> first name, and the user clicks on the column for the second name, they 
> would actually be navigating to a different rendering of the data sorted by 
> second name.
>
> I believe that this approach could go a long way: a sort of flipbook 
> approach to user interface design.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>
> On 25 May 2018, at 04:02, Greg Davis  
> wrote:
>
> Mark S.
>
> Hi,
> Well if it is Science Fiction there is always Baen official slush for 
> publication  http://baen.com/
>
> If you have not given it to a beta reader and/or editor. You can try the 
> crit forums on Baen's Bar (have to register) the Slush Pile is for general 
> critiques. Other critique forums are Baen's Universe Slush is for short 
> stories and 1632 Slush is for stories in Eric Flint's Ring of Fire Universe.
>  http://bar.baen.com/
>
> On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 9:48:31 PM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> I guess we're all in the same boat. I've got one medium story finished, 
>> but wasn't sure where to submit it.
>>
>> --
>>
>> On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 7:44:58 PM UTC-7, Greg Davis wrote:
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> GO FOR IT ! !
>>>
>>> Hey, I was IT. Life interrupted but I am trying to get back to the 
>>> project I started along time ago. First drafts and notes scattered all 
>>> over. Wish I'd had TiddlyWiki back then to keep track of everything.
>>>
>>> Best Wishes,
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 7:12:04 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:

 Josiah,

 The incentive is very powerful for a sub-sector of users, when I was 
 younger I wanted to be a cosmologist and science fiction writer.  An IT 
 career happened instead. Only recently I started to think about writing 
 again because I could build a universe, a solar system and a number of 
 planets and document it in TiddlyWiki. To think that within that wiki the 
 eventual content can be produced then published to a common reader format 
 sounds great. We can do this to PDF with our browsers so what extra value 
 is direct to epub offer? I imagine a richer index and more?

 If however there are good PDF to epub converters I would not waste our 
 time with another export format but add it to improving PDF outputs.

 Regards
 Tony

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Re: [tw5] Re: TW Hesitations On Showing -- #1

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I'm curious. What good will those tiddlers do you without their original 
titles and field values?

Will you be maintaining a list so you know what original title matched what 
new title?

As a triage action, you could export all the identified tiddlers, delete 
them, and then do the conversion later at your leisure. But I'm assuming 
TW5. Or is this TWC?

-- Mark

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 5:07:50 AM UTC-7, Måns wrote:
>
> Hi 
>
> Because of the newly updated GPDR 
>  I 
> urgently need to change thousands of tiddler titles for sequential neutral 
> titles and "dummify" field values in wikis I made for the past 5 or 6  
> years.
> Alternatively I just have to delete them and loose access to a lot of 
> material that I myself, and collegues have generated over the years.
>
> I don't need a text find and replace function - because the tiddler titles 
> and field values are all unique - and not what I need to backup.
>
> I wonder how I would be able to create a "one-button operation" to handle 
> these two funtions:
>
> 1) Identify all tiddlers tagged with a tag - "dummify" all specified field 
> values - with a specific value
> 2) Replace tiddler titles with a new sequentially generated title - eg. 
> "title 01", "title 02" - etc..
>
> I've got untill midnight UTC - then I will have to delete alle of those 
> wikis...
>
> I will buy you a cake (and a cup of coffe) if any of you guys can help me 
> out here :-)
>
> Cheers Måns Mårtensson  
>
>
> fre. 25. maj 2018 kl. 11.47 skrev TonyM  >:
>
>> Mat,
>>
>> Depending on your workflow changing usernames is not so difficult. 
>> Especialy if you design components on one wiki with Admin. When you think 
>> you are done switch to your own user id, before sharing delete your tiddler 
>> change the user id to guest and share.
>>
>> This works even better if you maintain a seperate edition to apply fixes.
>>
>> I am building a tiddler to prompt for the user id on open.
>>
>> Another way is to consider the user id as a session name. Development 
>> session and named user session. I may even build a way to hide the edit 
>> button on tiddlers the current user does not own (creator).
>>
>> Food for thought
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
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[tw5] Re: Very Basic Question before Using TW

[Dis/loc]

Thanks! I'll have a look.


On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 3:20:00 PM UTC+3, ste...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 12:38:21 PM UTC+2, Dis/loc wrote:
>>
>> Can people still add or edit twiddlies? Is there a way to turn that off? 
>> In fact, it would be great if there's a way to hide all "backend" tools and 
>> just focus on the side bar and twiddlies. Is this possible? I haven't seen 
>> any examples that show this.
>>
>
> Maybe my "ToggleAdmin" Tiddler could help: 
> http://stefct-resources.tiddlyspot.com/#ToggleAdmin:ToggleAdmin%20%24%3A%2Ftools%2FToggleAdmin
>
> Cheers,
>
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[tw5] Re: Very Basic Question before Using TW

[Dis/loc]

Thanks David! That makes a lot of sense.


On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 2:35:50 PM UTC+3, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Sorry, I forgot you had the other questions at the end after I started 
> typing.
>
> The link you provided is toTiddlyWiki classic, so that does not apply to 
> TiddlyWiki5
>
> There are ways to host TiddlyWikis online so that you can edit them. But I 
> think that having it both ways (hiding editing controls AND editing online) 
> is not an ideal route. More ideal would be having your editable version, on 
> or offline, with the controls visible, in a separate location, then have a 
> way to update the user friendly version from that.
>
> Another way is via GitHub, so you edit the tiddlers in Github but viewers 
> only see the finished product
>
> On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 5:38:21 AM UTC-5, Dis/loc wrote:
>
>> Hi all, I'm a complete n00b to TW, so I'm slowly wrapping my head around 
>> the philosophy and potential uses.
>>
>> Apologies if these issues have been addressed elsewhere, but I wanted to 
>> ask this question before I invested too much time in it, in case my needs 
>> are best met with some other tool.
>>
>> I'm imagining a website where twiddlies are bits of non-linear narrative, 
>> notes, quotes, etc. that can be explored in many different ways (links, 
>> tags) and, over time, build up to a more ordered, linked-up 'final draft' 
>> -- almost like a "process book" (in art-speak). This idea seems like its a 
>> perfect fit for TW's non-linear/"Story River" functionality. But what I 
>> don't understand is what happens after a TW (e.g. "empty.html") is uploaded 
>> to a webhost. Can people still add or edit twiddlies? Is there a way to 
>> turn that off? In fact, it would be great if there's a way to hide all 
>> "backend" tools and just focus on the side bar and twiddlies. Is this 
>> possible? I haven't seen any examples that show this.
>>
>> And if this is possible, how would subsequent edits be made? Would I have 
>> to re-upload the whole "empty.html" each time? 
>>
>> Is there a combination of plugins and themes that would allow me to do 
>> both things: hide all "admin" or unnecessary tools so the visitor can focus 
>> on the content while also allowing me to make additions directly into the 
>> file already uploaded?
>>
>> The closest thing I've seen to an answer is: 
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/IkT5EQFTBFY -- I'm 
>> just wondering if there's something that is more robust and intended for 
>> the usage I have in mind.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: TW Hesitations On Showing -- #1

[Mat]

Måns, 

Not a single magic button but maybe my BatchManipulator 
 can be of some help? BTW, I 
recently started to work as a teacher as well and the GDPR issue is one 
huge confusion. For unclear reasons we're allowed to store files on Google 
Drive "in the cloud" but not e.g on gmail or outlook. (Don't ask, I don't 
understand either.) 

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Very Basic Question before Using TW

[stefct4]

Hi,

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 12:38:21 PM UTC+2, Dis/loc wrote:
>
> Can people still add or edit twiddlies? Is there a way to turn that off? 
> In fact, it would be great if there's a way to hide all "backend" tools and 
> just focus on the side bar and twiddlies. Is this possible? I haven't seen 
> any examples that show this.
>

Maybe my "ToggleAdmin" Tiddler could 
help: 
http://stefct-resources.tiddlyspot.com/#ToggleAdmin:ToggleAdmin%20%24%3A%2Ftools%2FToggleAdmin

Cheers,

Stef
 

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[tw5] Re: how: add icons for tags (SVG files)

[Shay Shaked]

Oh! So close...

was missing tag icon for it ($:/tags/Image), so now it DOES show. Kinda. 
It's not bold like the other icons, and the icon looks.. bad. doesn't 
change to white on dark background tag "pills" if you know what I mean. 
Also, the SVG shows next to the tiddler's title (if it's tagged with it) 
not sure that's normal. I thought it was only showing in the tag "pill"

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 8:02:01 AM UTC-4, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> Thanks for the help guys. I'm sorry for the delay, you know, work gets in 
> the way but I'm back here to try. 
>
> What I did is look more closely at the made SVG files in TW, and realize 
> that they are CSSed (it's a verb now..!) to be of a specific size. I 
> resized the *image* to be that size (previously it was too big) and then I 
> saw the whole thing. The original image seems to be too big to be a tag 
> icon. 
>
> Now, what I'm trying to figure out is how to tell TW that it has a new 
> icon. When I extend the drop-down menu for icons in the tag editor, my new 
> tag is not listed. Maybe I forgot to tag it or something, I did save it 
> under core images though. Suggestions? 
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: TW Hesitations On Showing -- #1

[Måns Mårtensson]

Hi

Because of the newly updated GPDR
 I
urgently need to change thousands of tiddler titles for sequential neutral
titles and "dummify" field values in wikis I made for the past 5 or 6
years.
Alternatively I just have to delete them and loose access to a lot of
material that I myself, and collegues have generated over the years.

I don't need a text find and replace function - because the tiddler titles
and field values are all unique - and not what I need to backup.

I wonder how I would be able to create a "one-button operation" to handle
these two funtions:

1) Identify all tiddlers tagged with a tag - "dummify" all specified field
values - with a specific value
2) Replace tiddler titles with a new sequentially generated title - eg.
"title 01", "title 02" - etc..

I've got untill midnight UTC - then I will have to delete alle of those
wikis...

I will buy you a cake (and a cup of coffe) if any of you guys can help me
out here :-)

Cheers Måns Mårtensson


fre. 25. maj 2018 kl. 11.47 skrev TonyM :

> Mat,
>
> Depending on your workflow changing usernames is not so difficult.
> Especialy if you design components on one wiki with Admin. When you think
> you are done switch to your own user id, before sharing delete your tiddler
> change the user id to guest and share.
>
> This works even better if you maintain a seperate edition to apply fixes.
>
> I am building a tiddler to prompt for the user id on open.
>
> Another way is to consider the user id as a session name. Development
> session and named user session. I may even build a way to hide the edit
> button on tiddlers the current user does not own (creator).
>
> Food for thought
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
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[tw5] Re: how: add icons for tags (SVG files)

[Shay Shaked]

Thanks for the help guys. I'm sorry for the delay, you know, work gets in 
the way but I'm back here to try. 

What I did is look more closely at the made SVG files in TW, and realize 
that they are CSSed (it's a verb now..!) to be of a specific size. I 
resized the *image* to be that size (previously it was too big) and then I 
saw the whole thing. The original image seems to be too big to be a tag 
icon. 

Now, what I'm trying to figure out is how to tell TW that it has a new 
icon. When I extend the drop-down menu for icons in the tag editor, my new 
tag is not listed. Maybe I forgot to tag it or something, I did save it 
under core images though. Suggestions? 

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[tw5] Re: Very Basic Question before Using TW

[David Gifford]

Sorry, I forgot you had the other questions at the end after I started 
typing.

The link you provided is toTiddlyWiki classic, so that does not apply to 
TiddlyWiki5

There are ways to host TiddlyWikis online so that you can edit them. But I 
think that having it both ways (hiding editing controls AND editing online) 
is not an ideal route. More ideal would be having your editable version, on 
or offline, with the controls visible, in a separate location, then have a 
way to update the user friendly version from that.

Another way is via GitHub, so you edit the tiddlers in Github but viewers 
only see the finished product

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 5:38:21 AM UTC-5, Dis/loc wrote:

> Hi all, I'm a complete n00b to TW, so I'm slowly wrapping my head around 
> the philosophy and potential uses.
>
> Apologies if these issues have been addressed elsewhere, but I wanted to 
> ask this question before I invested too much time in it, in case my needs 
> are best met with some other tool.
>
> I'm imagining a website where twiddlies are bits of non-linear narrative, 
> notes, quotes, etc. that can be explored in many different ways (links, 
> tags) and, over time, build up to a more ordered, linked-up 'final draft' 
> -- almost like a "process book" (in art-speak). This idea seems like its a 
> perfect fit for TW's non-linear/"Story River" functionality. But what I 
> don't understand is what happens after a TW (e.g. "empty.html") is uploaded 
> to a webhost. Can people still add or edit twiddlies? Is there a way to 
> turn that off? In fact, it would be great if there's a way to hide all 
> "backend" tools and just focus on the side bar and twiddlies. Is this 
> possible? I haven't seen any examples that show this.
>
> And if this is possible, how would subsequent edits be made? Would I have 
> to re-upload the whole "empty.html" each time? 
>
> Is there a combination of plugins and themes that would allow me to do 
> both things: hide all "admin" or unnecessary tools so the visitor can focus 
> on the content while also allowing me to make additions directly into the 
> file already uploaded?
>
> The closest thing I've seen to an answer is: 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/IkT5EQFTBFY -- I'm 
> just wondering if there's something that is more robust and intended for 
> the usage I have in mind.
>
> Thanks!
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Very Basic Question before Using TW

[David Gifford]

Hi Dis/loc

I will let others answer more fully, but to give you short answers, if you 
upload a single file TiddlyWiki, it is not affected by the temporary 
changes users make online in their web browsers. When they try to leave the 
page, they will see a message that they can't save their changes.

And yes, there are ways to hide most of the editing controls when the file 
is viewed online. When you want to change it, you make the changes offline 
and upload it again.

Hope that helps

Dave

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 5:38:21 AM UTC-5, Dis/loc wrote:
>
> Hi all, I'm a complete n00b to TW, so I'm slowly wrapping my head around 
> the philosophy and potential uses.
>
> Apologies if these issues have been addressed elsewhere, but I wanted to 
> ask this question before I invested too much time in it, in case my needs 
> are best met with some other tool.
>
> I'm imagining a website where twiddlies are bits of non-linear narrative, 
> notes, quotes, etc. that can be explored in many different ways (links, 
> tags) and, over time, build up to a more ordered, linked-up 'final draft' 
> -- almost like a "process book" (in art-speak). This idea seems like its a 
> perfect fit for TW's non-linear/"Story River" functionality. But what I 
> don't understand is what happens after a TW (e.g. "empty.html") is uploaded 
> to a webhost. Can people still add or edit twiddlies? Is there a way to 
> turn that off? In fact, it would be great if there's a way to hide all 
> "backend" tools and just focus on the side bar and twiddlies. Is this 
> possible? I haven't seen any examples that show this.
>
> And if this is possible, how would subsequent edits be made? Would I have 
> to re-upload the whole "empty.html" each time? 
>
> Is there a combination of plugins and themes that would allow me to do 
> both things: hide all "admin" or unnecessary tools so the visitor can focus 
> on the content while also allowing me to make additions directly into the 
> file already uploaded?
>
> The closest thing I've seen to an answer is: 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/IkT5EQFTBFY -- I'm 
> just wondering if there's something that is more robust and intended for 
> the usage I have in mind.
>
> Thanks!
>
>

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[tw5] Very Basic Question before Using TW

[Dis/loc]

Hi all, I'm a complete n00b to TW, so I'm slowly wrapping my head around 
the philosophy and potential uses.

Apologies if these issues have been addressed elsewhere, but I wanted to 
ask this question before I invested too much time in it, in case my needs 
are best met with some other tool.

I'm imagining a website where twiddlies are bits of non-linear narrative, 
notes, quotes, etc. that can be explored in many different ways (links, 
tags) and, over time, build up to a more ordered, linked-up 'final draft' 
-- almost like a "process book" (in art-speak). This idea seems like its a 
perfect fit for TW's non-linear/"Story River" functionality. But what I 
don't understand is what happens after a TW (e.g. "empty.html") is uploaded 
to a webhost. Can people still add or edit twiddlies? Is there a way to 
turn that off? In fact, it would be great if there's a way to hide all 
"backend" tools and just focus on the side bar and twiddlies. Is this 
possible? I haven't seen any examples that show this.

And if this is possible, how would subsequent edits be made? Would I have 
to re-upload the whole "empty.html" each time? 

Is there a combination of plugins and themes that would allow me to do both 
things: hide all "admin" or unnecessary tools so the visitor can focus on 
the content while also allowing me to make additions directly into the file 
already uploaded?

The closest thing I've seen to an answer is: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/IkT5EQFTBFY -- I'm just 
wondering if there's something that is more robust and intended for the 
usage I have in mind.

Thanks!

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[tw5] Re: TW Hesitations On Showing -- #1

[TonyM]

Mat,

Depending on your workflow changing usernames is not so difficult. Especialy if 
you design components on one wiki with Admin. When you think you are done 
switch to your own user id, before sharing delete your tiddler change the user 
id to guest and share.

This works even better if you maintain a seperate edition to apply fixes.

I am building a tiddler to prompt for the user id on open.

Another way is to consider the user id as a session name. Development session 
and named user session. I may even build a way to hide the edit button on 
tiddlers the current user does not own (creator).

Food for thought

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: TW Hesitations On Showing -- #1

[Mat]

TonyM wrote:
>
>  If people add to there workflow it is quite easy to create and modify 
> tiddlers under different names, 
>

Hm. The idea of having to change user name and constantly keeping in mind 
that my TW might(!) eventually be presented to others  then I suspect 
people would just rather not bother to present their private wikis to 
others.

That said, your idea has similarity to something I made for my (now frozen) 
blog TWaddle . I modified the saver so that 
it saved to two places; one saved the editor version to tiddlyspot where it 
was hosted but it also triggered a download of a public version with only 
certain tiddlers filtered, which I then uploaded to the public TWaddle. 
(Unfurtunately I couldn't get it to directly load to two tiddlywikis 
simultaneously, which is also why my blogging halted. Too much hassle just 
to add an article!). The filtering was based on some field value set in 
public tiddlers, kind of like what you propose. Still, if an unfinished 
article should slip through that would not be a biggie - it's just a silly 
blog. In contrast, the wikis I think would be most interesting to see the 
structure of are peoples "everyday wikis"... presumably with sometimes 
sensitive info (medical matters, private thoughts about other people, ... 
whatever) - these had better be cleared without risk for mistakes before 
anyone would mind sharing the TW.

<:-)

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Re: [tw5] Re: export to ebook format (epub)

[Jeremy Ruston]

I very much like the idea of an epub3 output format for TW5.

As others have noted, the epub3 format itself can be fairly simple (plus the 
general rule that it is always orders of magnitude easier to generate a 
particular format than it is to parse/accept that format). We already have a 
JSZip plugin that can handle the creation of a ZIP file from a bunch of 
individual files.

One aspect that particularly interests me is the production of redundant static 
pages to reproduce the functionality of a dynamic experience. For example, 
consider a table of a few columns of data that we’d like to publish such that 
the user can click on a column heading to sort by it. The usual approach would 
be a small JS plugin that rearranges the DOM when the column header is clicked. 
Instead, we could pre-generate static HTML representations of every combination 
of sorting for the table, and then construct links between them. So, if the 
initial rendering is ordered by first name, and the user clicks on the column 
for the second name, they would actually be navigating to a different rendering 
of the data sorted by second name.

I believe that this approach could go a long way: a sort of flipbook approach 
to user interface design.

Best wishes

Jeremy.



> On 25 May 2018, at 04:02, Greg Davis  wrote:
> 
> Mark S.
> 
> Hi,
> Well if it is Science Fiction there is always Baen official slush for 
> publication  http://baen.com/ 
> 
> If you have not given it to a beta reader and/or editor. You can try the crit 
> forums on Baen's Bar (have to register) the Slush Pile is for general 
> critiques. Other critique forums are Baen's Universe Slush is for short 
> stories and 1632 Slush is for stories in Eric Flint's Ring of Fire Universe. 
> http://bar.baen.com/ 
> 
> On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 9:48:31 PM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
> I guess we're all in the same boat. I've got one medium story finished, but 
> wasn't sure where to submit it.
> 
> --
> 
> On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 7:44:58 PM UTC-7, Greg Davis wrote:
> Tony
> 
> GO FOR IT ! !
> 
> Hey, I was IT. Life interrupted but I am trying to get back to the project I 
> started along time ago. First drafts and notes scattered all over. Wish I'd 
> had TiddlyWiki back then to keep track of everything.
> 
> Best Wishes,
> Greg
> 
> On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 7:12:04 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
> Josiah,
> 
> The incentive is very powerful for a sub-sector of users, when I was younger 
> I wanted to be a cosmologist and science fiction writer.  An IT career 
> happened instead. Only recently I started to think about writing again 
> because I could build a universe, a solar system and a number of planets and 
> document it in TiddlyWiki. To think that within that wiki the eventual 
> content can be produced then published to a common reader format sounds 
> great. We can do this to PDF with our browsers so what extra value is direct 
> to epub offer? I imagine a richer index and more?
> 
> If however there are good PDF to epub converters I would not waste our time 
> with another export format but add it to improving PDF outputs.
> 
> Regards
> Tony
>  
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[tw5] Re: Feature request - canonical uri button.

[stefct4]

Hi

On Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 10:50:24 PM UTC+2, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
>
>> I believe this could make it work for more types: 
>
>
Your modification looks promising. However, it doesn't seem to work for me. 
I tried to import the picture of a familiar cat:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6217/6292279493_0824a351d7_b.jpg

Unfortunately, no content type was detected, and TiddlyWiki threw the 
following error:

Trying to load external content from 
> https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6217/6292279493_0824a351d7_b.jpg
> If this message doesn't disappear, either the tiddler content type doesn't 
> match the type of the external content, or you may be using a browser that 
> doesn't support external content for wikis loaded as standalone files. See 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#ExternalText


Furthermore, I'm not sure what to do about URLs like this (created by 
DuckDuckGo): 
https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F6%2F6e%2FTiddlyWiki_5.1.9.png%2F300px-TiddlyWiki_5.1.9.png=1
 

On the other hand, TiddlyWiki seems to render .png or .svg images properly 
even if I import them with the content type "image/jpeg".

~Stef

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