date:20180906

Very nice! Yes, it is important to have the history of TW! Sometimes one 
can find the philosophy of some current behavior through that!

-Mohammad

On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 1:48:50 AM UTC+4:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> BTW, would be fun with a gallery of tiddlywiki.com through the years...
>
>
> A few years ago I made this video of the evolution of TiddlyWiki5 between 
> June 2012 and June 2014:
>
> https://youtu.be/aROD7iUM85g
>
> It would be nice to update it – I've still got the code somewhere,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> <:-)
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[tw5] Re: How important is blank line in TW? and Where we should use it?

Hi Mat!

Thank you for the info. This will help to create macros and complex wiki 
text correctly!

Cheers
Mohammad

On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 1:11:41 AM UTC+4:30, Mat wrote:
>
> Hey Mohammad,
>
> as noted in HTML in WikiText 
> , 
>
> *Block mode versus Inline mode*
>> To get the content of an HTML element to be parsed in block mode, the 
>> opening tag must be followed by two linebreaks.
>> Without the two linebreaks, the tag content will be parsed in inline mode 
>> which means that block mode formatting such as wikitext tables, lists and 
>> headings is not recognised.
>
>
> <:-) 
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[tw5] Re: How important is blank line in TW? and Where we should use it?

Hello Mario,
 Thank you very much! I learned how can I debug and troubleshoot using raw 
html in preview panel.

Best
Mohammad

On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 9:41:42 PM UTC+4:30, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi, 
>
>  - Open: https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease
>  - create a new tiddler
>  - copy your example into the tiddler
>  - open the "preview" panel
>  - open the "choose preview type" dropdown (last button in the edit 
> toolbar)
>- choose: parsetree 
>- choose: raw html  ... for smaller examples 
>
> now change the linebreaks and you'll see, how the elements created change. 
>
> You can also use this mechanism for your earlier post mentioned above.  
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
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[tw5] Days Operator and Examples (documentation addition)

2018-09-06 Thread TonyM

Folks,

I am hopping to expand the documentation on the days operator on
TiddlyWiki.com, in this case I do not understand it myself, So I am
reaching out to the community. Have you worked it out yourself, can you
provide some information to help.

Could someone please Expand the Documentation to better document its
function including giving examples of each +ve -ve and ! combinations and
ideally a range.

I have not worked it out properly yet, but here are some details of what to
include

- Every tiddler with the date field up to a particular date in the future
- Every tiddler with the date field after a particular date in the future
- Every tiddler with the date field back to a particular date in the past
- Every tiddler with the date field before a particular date in the past

And using two days operators to

- select a date between two dates
- Show date outside a range of dates or not between two dates

Thanks in advance

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[tw5] Re: Using the keyboord plugin, is it possible to have tiddler-specific keyboard shortcuts?

2018-09-06 Thread nakedmind

On Friday, 7 September 2018 03:18:57 UTC+8, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
>
>> It should be fixed now, it's working pretty well, thanks again for your 
> ideas!
> I'm making this for my own use, too - so this is a win-win situation ;)
>

The latest update is not working on my side. I'm testing using tiddly 
desktop on a fresh tw file *(**5.1.17)*. The demo site is using 
*5.1.18-prerelease.*
Installing the plugin breaks all the internal wiki links. When I click on 
any link except the new-tiddler, I'm being redirected to my default browser 
and I'm getting an internal javascript error:

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[tw5] Re: New Plugin tw-receiver saves wiki to PHP

2018-09-06 Thread sendwheel

That's great. I'll look into that password saving w/ LastPass and others. 
See if I can't straighten it out.

On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 12:28:50 AM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>
> Sendwheel,
>
> Thanks that is working and working well. It is very exciting for me and I 
> may soon publish a number of tools online based on TiddlyWiki. Thanks so 
> much.
>
> For others reading this I have it working over https
>
> In a spirit of progress a few notes
>
>
>- So in summary the Wiki is read only and throws a message on the 
>creation of a tiddler unless one goes to
>Control Panel > Saving > TW Receiver and provides the "password/Secret 
>Key"
>- Once you do this, saving will work in that browser session 
>indefinatly?
>- The whole folder could be placed behind a password to stop public 
>access even read only.
>
>
> *Some feedback*
>
> *Read only mode*
> Would it be possible not to throw a message when people have read only 
> access and on every change they make, and leave it to when and If they try 
> and save the wiki? Basically do not try and save if it does not have 
> permission to do so.
> Even simple state tiddlers could cause this failed save to occur, I want 
> to build wikis that may be read only (to most) but the user can enter 
> details and export/email their "input" the error message makes this 
> somewhat unworkable. My work around is to turn off autosave however this 
> exposes me to loss if I forget to save. Perhaps turning off Autosave if the 
> tiddlywiki cant save to the server would be a practical solution.
>
> *Update Contention*
> I imagine that if more than one person had the password they could 
> overwrite each others changes. Could we use php to drive a checkout 
> process, basically allow a request to checkout and if not already (because 
> its flagged) save a state on the server including the current user and or 
> contact info (If provided) - thus no one else could check it out until the 
> named user checks it back in (or the state deleted)?
>
> *Password "address"*
> I have noticed a Password Vault LastPass offering to save the password for 
> me, however it only does so for the domain, and does not seem to recognise 
> the password is meant for the site in its folder ie not for 
> https://psat.com.au but for https://psat.com.au/tiddlywiki/PHPWiki.html 
> or https://psat.com.au/tiddlywiki I think something in the authentication 
> is causing this, perhaps there is away to ensure the password is recognised 
> as belonging to the subsite not the domain.
>
> Thanks again for a great leap forward (for me as I could not get others 
> working) Perhaps because of the PHP Version - who knows.
>
> Your contribution opens TiddlyWiki to further adoption.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>  
>
>
>
> On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 1:06:22 PM UTC+10, sendwheel wrote:
>>
>> The only file you need is tw-receiver-server.php on the server. The other 
>> files are just for the project and aren't actually needed to use the plugin.
>>
>> I would recommend you get things working with a simple password first, 
>> and save using the $extSecKeyPath mode for later.
>>
>> password needed in 2 spots:
>> So just set the same secret password in Control Panel > Saving > TW 
>> Receiver
>> And modify the tw-receiver-server.php (line 20) file and make 
>> *$userpassword* = the same password you're using 
>> -- That should solve your Authentication Error
>>
>> Maybe start with a fresh copy of tw-receiver-server.php to make sure you 
>> don't have any bad edits.
>>
>> and thank you for this feedback, I'll make some adjustments to the readme 
>> and look at minimum php version requirements.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 10:49:05 PM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Sendwheel,
>>>
>>> I possibly have enough knowledge to be dangerous, but not to get this 
>>> working. Perhaps you could extend the instructions a little to help me
>>>
>>> I do not yet have it working, I create a new tiddler then select the 
>>> save icon which say its started saving the returns Error while saving:
>>>
>>> *Error:*
>>> *Server Error: Authentication Failure*
>>>
>>> I uploaded a Wiki to the host without the TW Receiver enabled otherwise 
>>> I could not save it locally.
>>> I then go to the served wiki in the browser and enable it, then try and 
>>> save it with the above result.
>>>  The server URL is by default tw-receiver-server.php
>>>  I tried https://psat.com.au/tiddlywiki/tw-receiver-server.php with 
>>> no effect
>>> So I discovered the instructions make no mention of placing the 
>>> following "components" anywhere 
>>>
>>>- tw-receiver-config.ini
>>>- tw-receiver-handler-comp.js
>>>- tw-receiver-ui-comp.tw 
>>>
>>> So I uploaded tw-receiver-config.ini  to my home/root directory
>>>
>>>- However I am not so sure how to provide the secret key, is it 
>>>encoded? I put it in as entered in the wiki
>>>- Then set $extSecKeyPath = 
>>>

[tw5] Re: Maarfapad (aka TWaaS) v0.5.0 is live

2018-09-06 Thread TonyM

Abraham,

I will be testing this further but I looks good so far, very professional. 
I see this being a great service especially for regular users who do not 
have access to their own hosting. 

*Will you be sharing the backend setup so others can implement a similar 
system and share back their own developments?*

The answer to this question may affect the degree to which I investigate 
your solution since the value to me differs. I would not want to compete 
providing such a service but I do want to "publish" utility wikis, and a 
variation of your approach would be helpful. I would however respect your 
desire to recover costs, even turn a profit providing such a hosting 
service. 

Keep in mind there is a substantial difference between members of the 
community and end users who may use such an online tiddlywiki.

Regards
Tony
 

On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 5:15:32 AM UTC+10, Abraham Samma wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Just wanted to announce that the Personal TW collection management service 
> called Maarfapad  has been updated to version 0.5.0 
> with features some of you might find useful. I've set up a blog page 
>  for you to explore 
> the supporting plugin (note it only works when the wiki is hosted within 
> Maarfapad's domain.).
>
> There was previously a restriction for beta testing, *but that has now 
> been lifted*. All are welcome. Please let me know if you find anything 
> weird.
>
> Also, many of you had great suggestions for the future of Maarfapad. This 
> project was originally intended to be a way to introduce TW to a wide 
> audience. I have a lot of experiments to run to see what could possibly 
> turn this into a self sustaining project and gain a wider following. The 
> ultimate aim is to make TW as well known as WordPress or Joomla.
>
> Thank you to all the beta testers. Please update your plugins via this 
> link https://abesamma.github.io/maarfapad-blog/index.html. I thank you 
> deeply 
>
> Aluta continua.
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

2018-09-06 Thread TonyM

Josiah, and Mario,

I am using bundles for a lot for things, usually reusable code but 
sometimes for copying or moving tiddlers.

The destroy mode you are looking for is there for whole of bundle deleted 
by clicking on the number next to the bundle in the side bar. In the 
advanced search window you can select delete.

This draws attention that bundles are basically filters or lists of 
tiddlers. As a result there are plenty of solutions that can help use and 
manipulate them. So it would be easy to create a generic tool for deleting 
items in a list and provide the bundle list/filter to it. And this tool 
will be used elsewhere.

On the comment tiddler idea I have a tiddler naming standard that includes 
a tiddler with this information in my bundles including in its fields the 
name of the owner wiki.

If there were one feature in bundles I would like, But I do not know how to 
do it. It would be if I could allow bundles to be imported only if a 
condition were true, such as do not import the bundle to the wiki that 
generated it (unless acknowledged) 

egards
Tony




On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 11:32:35 PM UTC+10, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> PMario
>
> Thanks for your detailed note on "state" Tiddlers and the pointers to 
> other possibilities like "interactive training".
>
> I think The Bundler is one of the most useful utilities for TW. It has 
> eased my life a lot. IMO its the first choice general tool for both moving 
> Tiddler sets around, portable configuration and general management of a 
> wiki.
>
> -- Makes transport and archiving of Tiddlers a flexible, clear & clean 
> process. I found it very robust and easy to use. The way it integrates into 
> the UI is good too.
>
>   -- It is increasingly needed as TW is growing add-ons, plugins, macro 
> bits, CSS tweaks etc at a fast rate. Just keeping track of good things can 
> be a major hassle. To gave an example, when I set-up  a new TW, depending 
> on its usage requirements, I drag and drop up to 9 bundles according to 
> what is needed. If I did that item by item for the components the bundles 
> now hold if would take hours to locate them all, even if I could remember 
> them. 
>
>   -- Management of what you have. I also use the bundler in both list & 
> filter mode simply to know what I have in the wiki, what needs archiving & 
> what can be deleted.
>
> There are two issues I mentioned before in some of the early threads on 
> the bundler which I still hope you might be able to address?
>
> 1 -- *Have a way of adding comments in Bundler Lists* such that it does 
> not throw the count off. I found comments essential to have in complex 
> bundles so you can see at a glance what they contain. Currently I use a 
> pseudo Tiddler title like  [[--- Comment Here ---]] to do that. But it 
> throws the count off. If I could have only one request dealt with it would 
> be for this :-).
>
> 2 -- I still wonder if there is a way that a Bundle List could have *a 
> "destroy mode" *such that, for instance, a list would appear with 
> checkboxes next to each item allowing deletion when in destroy mode? Even 
> better a "select all" too? Something like that. 
>
> Thanks for a really great tool!
>
> Josiah
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: [INTRO] uni-link plugin

2018-09-06 Thread Diego Mesa

Hey Mario,

Just checking back to see if you think these are worthwhile to include in 
the plugin? 

Best,
Diego

On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 4:13:49 AM UTC-5, PMario wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 11:00:43 PM UTC+2, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>
>> Again, thank you for this wonderful plugin. Just a few thoughts:
>>
>
> Thx,
>
>>
>>- I was wondering if its possible, and if so what your thoughts are, 
>>on having alias linking happen automagically without the additional |? 
>>syntax. ...
>>
>> OK. So my guess is, that >60% of your links are alias links now and they 
> start to annoy you, because of the extra 2 chars ;) ... I see. 
>
>>
>>- So when I type [[myalias]] the parser would first search for 
>>tiddlers with that name, and if none are found, then search for aliases 
>>with that name, and if none are found put the italicized link in place 
>> for 
>>the nonexistent tiddler. 
>>
>> I'll have to have a look. May be we can make it configurable. ... 
>
> There is a discussion going on (which you started 
> ) about 
> having IDs vs. tiddler title. I didn't watch the thread closely, but I saw 
> it ;)
>
> I think, it could be solved with uni-link ... but, I'm not sure if we 
> could do it without some core improvements. .. I didn't have a close look 
> yet. 
>  
>
>>
>>- I frequently find myself making two aliases a name and its plural 
>>(example below). Could this be automated as an option? 
>>   - tiddler title: An Important Method
>>   - aliases: AIM AIMs
>>
>> Hmm, This is "word stemming" analyses, which depends on used languages: 
> see: https://github.com/NaturalNode/natural#stemmers  ... It's a very 
> interesting topic. But I would want to have a German version too ;) 
>
>>
>>- Could we use aliases in tags? Sometimes I have long tiddlers like A 
>>Very Long Important Method with an alias like AVLM. It would be 
>> convenient 
>>to tag with AVLM as well (I know this was discussed previously, but Im 
>> not 
>>sure where anymore).
>>
>> That's why "alias-handling" isn't part of the core ... We will have to 
> implement it at a very low level, so it basically works everywhere! 
>
> IMO Tags are only 1 element here. ... 
>
> I think, the main problem is speed. For the alias handling I did implement 
> an "alias-cache" to speed up the de-/referencing process. .. 
> But tagging itself is used a lot, to create the UI. So slowing down the 
> tag-lookup mechanism may have a major performance impact. 
>
> As an alternative: 
>
> I did think about using / showing the caption of a tag, instead of the the 
> tag. ... This would be a field to explore. ... and should be doable with UI 
> changes only. ... using the same mechanism that uni-link uses for standad 
> links already. 
>
>>
>>- Search could also include searching aliases, without the need for 
>>explict filtering. 
>>
>> This should be an easy fix. ... I think
>
> have fun!
> mario
>  
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Work on Spaced Repetition System

2018-09-06 Thread Diego Mesa

Hello ILYA,

I think it would be straightforward to use the macros this project provides 
to accomplish that. You'd have to modify the SR algorithm slightly though, 
as there is no clear notion of question difficulty to effect when to next 
review the tiddler in your case. 

On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 3:17:58 PM UTC-5, ilya.kh...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
> This is a great work!! 
>
> I am interested in a slightly different feature compared to flashcard use 
> case which I hope would be possible to implement. 
> Human brain forget the information it doesn't use, so I wanted a simple 
> mechanism which would prompt me to work on the tiddler. 
> I wanted to use SR algorithm to schedule review of tiddler (every tiddler 
> in wiki except pluggins and assets) so I can recall the information, 
> refactor the tiddler and do maintenance if needed.
> The interface would be a simple list filter which would show list of 
> tiddler titles (or captures) scheduled for review. 
> By clicking on the item in the list the tiddler opens in view mode. I 
> would click ok if I don't want to refactor it. 
> Otherwise I would click edit icon in the toolbar. Does anyone know if such 
> plugin exists or can provide some ideas how to implement it?
>
> Best regards,
> ILYA
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 1:58:04 PM UTC-8, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>>  
>> I mentioned in other places that I would be working on something like 
>> this. Instead of polluting other threads, Ill post updates and misc in here 
>> (though specific questions related to other things will still leak outside 
>> of this thread!).
>>
>> So far, I've been reading 
>>
>> https://apps.ankiweb.net/docs/manual.html
>>
>> and
>>
>> https://www.supermemo.com/english/ol/sm2.htm
>>
>> And have come up with a *basic* design for now which will evolve. Right 
>> now, I have questions as cards tagged with "Flash Card", and when you input 
>> a new one, they begin with the following fields:
>>
>> question: 3+1
>> answer: 4
>> repetition: 1
>>
>> We then have two major parts:
>>
>>- Quizzer
>>   - Shows a question
>>   - Lets you rate its difficulty
>>   - Calculate the next minimum time this question should be shown
>>   - Selector
>>- When you're ready to begin quizzing, get all questions whos time is 
>>   up and are ready to be shown
>>   
>>
>> So far I've worked on the quizzer (question/answering), and have a 
>> template with the following content:
>>
>> \define againQuality() 0
>> \define hardQuality() 1
>> \define goodQuality() 2
>> \define easyQuality() 3
>> \define updateActions()
>> 
>> <$formula-vars eq="$(quality)$ + 1">
>> <$action-setfield $field="eq" $value=<>/>
>> <$formula-vars repetition="{{!!repetition}} + 1">
>> <$action-setfield $field="repetition" $value=<>/>
>> <$formula-vars due="<> + 20">
>> <$action-setfield $field="due" $value=<>/>
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>
>> 
>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-remove-field" $param="state"/>
>>
>> 
>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-close-tiddler"/>
>> \end
>>
>> 
>> <$list filter="[all[current]tag[Flash Card]]">
>> <$fieldmangler>
>> Question: {{!!question}}
>> 
>> 
>>
>> 
>> <$list filter="[all[current]!has:field[state]]">
>> <$button>
>> Show Answer
>> 
>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-field" $param="state"/>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> 
>> <$list filter="[all[current]has:field[state]]">
>> Answer: {{!!answer}}
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> <$button>
>> Again
>> 
>> <$action-setfield $field="quality" $value=<>/>
>> <>
>> 
>> 
>> <$button>
>> Hard
>> 
>> <$action-setfield $field="quality" $value=<>/>
>> <>
>> 
>> 
>> <$button>
>> Good
>> 
>> <$action-setfield $field="quality" $value=<>/>
>> <>
>> 
>> 
>> <$button>
>> Easy
>> 
>> <$action-setfield $field="quality" $value=<>/>
>> <>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> This will at least let you answer a question, and mark how hard/easy it 
>> was for you, and calculate the relevant fields for the next time it should 
>> be shown. 
>>
>> I still have to actually implement the correct calculations for due, eq, 
>> etc. These are just place holders for right now. 
>>
>> The next piece is the selector, which will be responsible for going 
>> through all questions "due" field and selecting the ones that are ready to 
>> be shown - this should very straight forward. 
>>
>> Any comments/feedback is very welcome!
>>
>> Diego
>>
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[tw5] Re: [INTRO] Tiddler Bundle Plugin

>From the other thread: 

> So the *new convention would be*, that the title-prefix for a 
"comment-tiddler" is *3 dashes + a space*: "--- "

title: --- a new bundle ---
tags: $:/tags/Bundle

[[--- a new bundle ---]]
[[--- the above title would include itself into the bundle ---]]

[[--- a new bundle docs ---]]

If "--- a new bundle docs ---" exists, it would be also included. 

just some more thoughts. 

-m 

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Re: [tw5] Re: Good way to include snippets of music notation?

On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 10:42:19 PM UTC+2, Enneco Gotzon wrote:
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> It never ceases to amaze me what you are able to do with your codes.
>
> I want to express my appreciation and admiration for all you.
>
> Thank you very much for being so creative and brilliant.
>
> Take care & enjoy life.
>

You too!

The kudos goes to: *BurningTreeC *which created the TW edition, and the 
abcjs  creators, who made the library. 

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Re: [tw5] Re: OT: Just wanted to let you know: The Web Design Museum

2018-09-06 Thread Jeremy Ruston

> BTW, would be fun with a gallery of tiddlywiki.com through the years...

A few years ago I made this video of the evolution of TiddlyWiki5 between June 
2012 and June 2014:

https://youtu.be/aROD7iUM85g

It would be nice to update it – I've still got the code somewhere,

Best wishes

Jeremy

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 11:05:28 PM UTC+2, PMario wrote:
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> On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 7:19:48 PM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>>
>> --- Just a thought. Could the format stay the same BUT the counting be 
>> sensitive to non-existent Tiddlers (which = comments)?
>>
>
> Good thought! 
>

The funny thing is, that those tiddlers would be included into the bundle, 
if they actually do exist. ... So they are kind of "shadow bundled" :)
They can contain more documentation if needed. 

... I actually like that idea. 

-m

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[tw5] Re: [INTRO] Tiddler Bundle Plugin

Hi, 
There is some discussion going on here: 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/ZPaiDtpt1Zc/AUZBac0PBQAJ

just a reference!

-mario

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 7:19:48 PM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
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>
> --- Just a thought. Could the format stay the same BUT the counting be 
> sensitive to non-existent Tiddlers (which = comments)?
>

Good thought! 

To test the theory, just open the tiddler:  
$:/plugins/wikilabs/bundler/ui/Bundles and change the 2nd line 

from: 

\define filter-list() [enlist{$(currentTiddler)$}] 

to:   

\define filter-list() [enlist{$(currentTiddler)$}!prefix[--- ]]  

So the *new convention would be*, that the title-prefix for a 
"comment-tiddler" is *3 dashes + a space*: "--- "

Please test, if that would fit your needs. 

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[tw5] Re: OT: Just wanted to let you know: The Web Design Museum

2018-09-06 Thread Mat

Yeah, memories!

Funny how, on that front page, the only one with a decent design is the 
keith richards site... which is decent because it is not designed but 
instead they just pasted a designed photo there! 

BTW, would be fun with a gallery of tiddlywiki.com through the years...

<:-)

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Re: [tw5] Re: Good way to include snippets of music notation?

2018-09-06 Thread Enneco Gotzon

It never ceases to amaze me what you are able to do with your codes.

I want to express my appreciation and admiration for all you.

Thank you very much for being so creative and brilliant.

Take care & enjoy life.

On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 9:16 AM PMario  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> There has been a thread: Music Notation and Midi playback
> 
> here in the group.
> A demo is: http://musicsheets.tiddlyspot.com/ ,,, See the discussion in
> the other thread.
>
> have fun!
> mario
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[tw5] Re: How important is blank line in TW? and Where we should use it?

2018-09-06 Thread Mat

Hey Mohammad,

as noted in HTML in WikiText 
, 

*Block mode versus Inline mode*
> To get the content of an HTML element to be parsed in block mode, the 
> opening tag must be followed by two linebreaks.
> Without the two linebreaks, the tag content will be parsed in inline mode 
> which means that block mode formatting such as wikitext tables, lists and 
> headings is not recognised.


<:-) 

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[tw5] Re: Work on Spaced Repetition System

2018-09-06 Thread ilya . khlopotov

This is a great work!! 

I am interested in a slightly different feature compared to flashcard use 
case which I hope would be possible to implement. 
Human brain forget the information it doesn't use, so I wanted a simple 
mechanism which would prompt me to work on the tiddler. 
I wanted to use SR algorithm to schedule review of tiddler (every tiddler 
in wiki except pluggins and assets) so I can recall the information, 
refactor the tiddler and do maintenance if needed.
The interface would be a simple list filter which would show list of 
tiddler titles (or captures) scheduled for review. 
By clicking on the item in the list the tiddler opens in view mode. I would 
click ok if I don't want to refactor it. 
Otherwise I would click edit icon in the toolbar. Does anyone know if such 
plugin exists or can provide some ideas how to implement it?

Best regards,
ILYA



On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 1:58:04 PM UTC-8, Diego Mesa wrote:
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> Hey all,
>  
> I mentioned in other places that I would be working on something like 
> this. Instead of polluting other threads, Ill post updates and misc in here 
> (though specific questions related to other things will still leak outside 
> of this thread!).
>
> So far, I've been reading 
>
> https://apps.ankiweb.net/docs/manual.html
>
> and
>
> https://www.supermemo.com/english/ol/sm2.htm
>
> And have come up with a *basic* design for now which will evolve. Right 
> now, I have questions as cards tagged with "Flash Card", and when you input 
> a new one, they begin with the following fields:
>
> question: 3+1
> answer: 4
> repetition: 1
>
> We then have two major parts:
>
>- Quizzer
>   - Shows a question
>   - Lets you rate its difficulty
>   - Calculate the next minimum time this question should be shown
>   - Selector
>- When you're ready to begin quizzing, get all questions whos time is 
>   up and are ready to be shown
>   
>
> So far I've worked on the quizzer (question/answering), and have a 
> template with the following content:
>
> \define againQuality() 0
> \define hardQuality() 1
> \define goodQuality() 2
> \define easyQuality() 3
> \define updateActions()
> 
> <$formula-vars eq="$(quality)$ + 1">
> <$action-setfield $field="eq" $value=<>/>
> <$formula-vars repetition="{{!!repetition}} + 1">
> <$action-setfield $field="repetition" $value=<>/>
> <$formula-vars due="<> + 20">
> <$action-setfield $field="due" $value=<>/>
>  
> 
> 
>
> 
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-remove-field" $param="state"/>
>
> 
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-close-tiddler"/>
> \end
>
> 
> <$list filter="[all[current]tag[Flash Card]]">
> <$fieldmangler>
> Question: {{!!question}}
> 
> 
>
> 
> <$list filter="[all[current]!has:field[state]]">
> <$button>
> Show Answer
> 
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-field" $param="state"/>
> 
> 
>
> 
> <$list filter="[all[current]has:field[state]]">
> Answer: {{!!answer}}
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> <$button>
> Again
> 
> <$action-setfield $field="quality" $value=<>/>
> <>
> 
> 
> <$button>
> Hard
> 
> <$action-setfield $field="quality" $value=<>/>
> <>
> 
> 
> <$button>
> Good
> 
> <$action-setfield $field="quality" $value=<>/>
> <>
> 
> 
> <$button>
> Easy
> 
> <$action-setfield $field="quality" $value=<>/>
> <>
> 
> 
>
> 
> 
>
> This will at least let you answer a question, and mark how hard/easy it 
> was for you, and calculate the relevant fields for the next time it should 
> be shown. 
>
> I still have to actually implement the correct calculations for due, eq, 
> etc. These are just place holders for right now. 
>
> The next piece is the selector, which will be responsible for going 
> through all questions "due" field and selecting the ones that are ready to 
> be shown - this should very straight forward. 
>
> Any comments/feedback is very welcome!
>
> Diego
>

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[tw5] Re: Using the keyboord plugin, is it possible to have tiddler-specific keyboard shortcuts?

2018-09-06 Thread BurningTreeC


>
> I will just wait for the fixes you mentioned before I try it out. Again 
> thank you for your work on this plugin! 
> I think this functionality should be part of the core.
>
> On Thursday, 6 September 2018 19:50:36 UTC+8, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> edited my previous answer
>>
>
It should be fixed now, it's working pretty well, thanks again for your 
ideas!
I'm making this for my own use, too - so this is a win-win situation ;)

BTC

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

Email readers: I updated my last post in this thread online in GG to 
clarify what I meant. J.

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

PMario on the "commenting problem" ...

> IMO a bit more thoughts may be needed. 
>

Right.  Just for sake of completeness two comments ...

--- Some time ago Thomas Elmiger proposed a solution where you have a 
"wrapper Tiddler" around the Bundle List that could also itself be bundled 
as a kind of "Read Me". Examples here (without added details but you could 
add comment you wanted): http://tinyurl.com/yaclbxj2 Discussion here with 
my comments: 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/_Uqbg08Pjow/PJ23RiDAAwAJ I think 
it could be good where you want to describe a simple Bundle List--but if 
you have a complex Bundle List and you documented in the "wrapper" its 
components it would be hard to maintain if you changed anything in the 
bundle. I think they would be better in the bundle itself.

--- Just a thought. Could the format stay the same BUT the counting be 
sensitive to non-existent Tiddlers (which = comments)? So math is used to 
reduce the displayed total?

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: Maarfapad (aka TWaaS) v0.5.0 is live

2018-09-06 Thread Abraham Samma

A demonstration of Maarfapad in action: preventing overwrites with old data.

This feature is very reliable in Chrome. There is a persistent bug in 
Firefox that causes this to shutdown after a while.

[image: Screenshot (Sep 6, 2018 20_00_46).png] 

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[tw5] Re: How important is blank line in TW? and Where we should use it?

Hi, 

 - Open: https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease
 - create a new tiddler
 - copy your example into the tiddler
 - open the "preview" panel
 - open the "choose preview type" dropdown (last button in the edit toolbar)
   - choose: parsetree 
   - choose: raw html  ... for smaller examples 

now change the linebreaks and you'll see, how the elements created change. 

You can also use this mechanism for your earlier post mentioned above.  

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: How important is blank line in TW? and Where we should use it?

Hey - I can't recreate the difference in behaviour in the first example you 
provided. With or without the newlines - I still see the same stuff back - 
is it different for you?

The second example is in a macro - I think that's a similar situation to 
the example I gave - that is to say, the newline makes a difference.

On Thursday, 6 September 2018 15:32:22 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Spenny!
>  The example I have provided shows different results based an having the 
> blank line or not!
> Check in tiddlywiki.com
>
>
>
> On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 4:40:05 PM UTC+4:30, SpennyMcRinghoj 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I think there might be spacing just to make things clearer to a new user. 
>> I don't think in the example you show, there would be any difference in the 
>> functionality.
>>
>> On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 15:17:53 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> How important is blank line in TW? and Where we should use it?
>>> Look at 
>>>
>>>- 
>>>
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Adding%20a%20table%20of%20contents%20to%20the%20sidebar
>>>- https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/2OqPMZwIYGk/b4nj1p2qBAAJ
>>>
>>>
>>> In the first case why tiddlywiki.com recommend extra blank lines as 
>>> below:
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> <>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Why it does not use the below code
>>>
>>> 
>>> <>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There are many other cases in tiddlywiki.com
>>>
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: OT: Just wanted to let you know: The Web Design Museum


>
> Interesting! Look at Yahoo page, at that time it was a very popular page!
>

Mohammad 

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 3:32:35 PM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:


> -- Makes transport and archiving of Tiddlers a flexible, clear & clean 
> process. I found it very robust and easy to use. The way it integrates into 
> the UI is good too.
>

Thx. 
 

>   -- It is increasingly needed as TW is growing add-ons, plugins, macro 
> bits, CSS tweaks etc at a fast rate. Just keeping track of good things can 
> be a major hassle. To gave an example, when I set-up  a new TW, depending 
> on its usage requirements, I drag and drop up to 9 bundles according to 
> what is needed. If I did that item by item for the components the bundles 
> now hold if would take hours to locate them all, even if I could remember 
> them. 
>

That's a usecase, I didn't see at the beginning. 

For me the first usecase was, to create "proof of concepts" + some docs, 
that a user can easily include ... AND .. delete, after the tiddlers are 
not used anymore. 
 

> There are two issues I mentioned before in some of the early threads on 
> the bundler which I still hope you might be able to address?
>
> 1 -- *Have a way of adding comments in Bundler Lists* such that it does 
> not throw the count off. I found comments essential to have in complex 
> bundles so you can see at a glance what they contain. Currently I use a 
> pseudo Tiddler title like  [[--- Comment Here ---]] to do that. But it 
> throws the count off. If I could have only one request dealt with it would 
> be for this :-).
>

I was thinking about that, some time ago. ... The TW .multids-like 
structure may be an option to store comments. The .multids parser already 
understands them. So we could re-use existing code, without too many 
modifications. .multids files are part of eg: languages 
. ... 

If a line starts with a hash sign: # ... it will be treated as a comment. 

The problem I saw, was, that we already have 2 formats, that do very 
similar things: DataTiddlers : 

 - JSON tiddlers 
 - Dictionary tiddlers  
 
JSON tiddlers don't allow comments, because of the specs. 
Dictionary tiddlers are very similar to .multids, but lack comments and the 
internal API isn't easy to use. ... I didn't want to create a 3rd format. 

IMO a bit more thoughts may be needed. 

2 -- I still wonder if there is a way that a Bundle List could have *a 
> "destroy mode" *such that, for instance, a list would appear with 
> checkboxes next to each item allowing deletion when in destroy mode? Even 
> better a "select all" too? Something like that. 
>

Like an "uninstall-button" :) ... Yea, if you have 9 bundles with several 
tiddlers installed, it can be quite challenge to uninstall them. 

-mario


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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 8:54:14 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mario,
>
Good idea, However unless bundles is installed I assume they will not be. 
> Something to note when you update the bundles plugin
>

I think, with TW we are in a state now, where every extension to "the 
core", needs to "prove its value", by being a plugin first.

Once we ironed out the hickups in the plugin, we can think about creating 
pull requests for the core. ... 

In this "special" case I think the existing mechanism protects the user. So 
imo we need to be careful. 

-m

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

PMario

Thanks for your detailed note on "state" Tiddlers and the pointers to other
possibilities like "interactive training".

I think The Bundler is one of the most useful utilities for TW. It has
eased my life a lot. IMO its the first choice general tool for both moving
Tiddler sets around, portable configuration and general management of a
wiki.

-- Makes transport and archiving of Tiddlers a flexible, clear & clean
process. I found it very robust and easy to use. The way it integrates into
the UI is good too.

-- It is increasingly needed as TW is growing add-ons, plugins, macro
bits, CSS tweaks etc at a fast rate. Just keeping track of good things can
be a major hassle. To gave an example, when I set-up a new TW, depending
on its usage requirements, I drag and drop up to 9 bundles according to
what is needed. If I did that item by item for the components the bundles
now hold if would take hours to locate them all, even if I could remember
them.

-- Management of what you have. I also use the bundler in both list &
filter mode simply to know what I have in the wiki, what needs archiving &
what can be deleted.

There are two issues I mentioned before in some of the early threads on the
bundler which I still hope you might be able to address?

1 -- *Have a way of adding comments in Bundler Lists* such that it does not
throw the count off. I found comments essential to have in complex bundles
so you can see at a glance what they contain. Currently I use a pseudo
Tiddler title like [[--- Comment Here ---]] to do that. But it throws the
count off. If I could have only one request dealt with it would be for this
:-).

2 -- I still wonder if there is a way that a Bundle List could have *a
"destroy mode" *such that, for instance, a list would appear with
checkboxes next to each item allowing deletion when in destroy mode? Even
better a "select all" too? Something like that.

Thanks for a really great tool!

Josiah

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[tw5] Re: OT: Just wanted to let you know: The Web Design Museum

2018-09-06 Thread Melissa Rodriguez

Very cool!!!

On Thursday, 6 September 2018 11:40:20 UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> The Web Design Museum: The First Decade of Web Design 
> 
>
> No comments. Just have fun!
> mario
>

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[tw5] Re: How important is blank line in TW? and Where we should use it?

Hi again, I've just thought of a place where a newline does matter.

I've added a button on the editor for "Indent" - it will make the selected 
lines indented. Note that the prefix and suffix entries have a new line 
there. This means that the selected lines have the indent  inserted in 
the line above and the  on the line below. See code snippit at end of 
message.

I think newlines matter when you're passing arguments to functions - but 
don't matter in they are between functions, as the example you provided 
shows.

<$action-sendmessage
$message="tm-edit-text-operation"
$param="wrap-selection"
prefix="
"
suffix="
"
/>





On Thursday, 6 September 2018 13:10:05 UTC+1, SpennyMcRinghoj wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I think there might be spacing just to make things clearer to a new user. 
> I don't think in the example you show, there would be any difference in the 
> functionality.
>
> On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 15:17:53 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> How important is blank line in TW? and Where we should use it?
>> Look at 
>>
>>- 
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Adding%20a%20table%20of%20contents%20to%20the%20sidebar
>>- https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/2OqPMZwIYGk/b4nj1p2qBAAJ
>>
>>
>> In the first case why tiddlywiki.com recommend extra blank lines as 
>> below:
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> <>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> Why it does not use the below code
>>
>> 
>> <>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> There are many other cases in tiddlywiki.com
>>
>> Mohammad
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Using the keyboord plugin, is it possible to have tiddler-specific keyboard shortcuts?

2018-09-06 Thread nakedmind

I will just wait for the fixes you mentioned before I try it out. Again 
thank you for your work on this plugin! 
I think this functionality should be part of the core.

On Thursday, 6 September 2018 19:50:36 UTC+8, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> edited my previous answer
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 1:27:48 PM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> PMario ..
>> I'll check if the "bundler-plugin" can include an import-mechanism that 
>> allows us to import state-tiddlers. 
>
>
> I noticed you can bundle "$:/state..." tiddlers in a JSON but TW won't 
> import them. 
>

The plugin import mechanism basically uses the core functions. So I didn't 
have to overwrite and especially TEST them ;) 

Importing everything, like _outdated_ plugins, it's possible to create 
bundles, that can completely mess up your TW. 

 - In the best case like $:/state/* tiddlers, they can mess up your UI 
settings. 
 - In the *worst case* ... old and/or broken plugins can totally mess up 
your TW ... That's why they are completely removed from the import tiddler

Once they are removed you still can "re-enable" the checkbox in the UI ... 
BUT ... They won't be imported, because the are already gone. ... For 
plugins, that's a feature. 

The same mechanism is used for $:/state tiddlers. ... So re-enabling them 
doesn't work, with the core-import mechanism. 

> Enabling import of them could be good in some situations. For example I 
> have a tool that I use a lot to calculate aspect ratios and other 
> conversions. Though the state tiddlers change according to user input, on 
> "first--time--run" I use them for initial values which I'd like to be able 
> to transport rather than have to redo 60.
>

Yea ... That's right. .. 

I would like to create bundles, that can be used to open the eg: 
"*$:/ControlPanel: 
Appearence: Toolbars: Editor*" tab. It will make it much easier for me to 
point new users into the right directions ... here in the group.

This mechanism is called app-deep-linking 
, which is not possible 
at the moment, but imo it should be.

 - It would also add the possibility to create "offline interactive 
trainings" for TW. 
 - Or "interactive program reviews" 

Since bundles can track, which tiddlers are imported, it would be easy to 
"uninstall / delete" them after they are not needed anymore!

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: How important is blank line in TW? and Where we should use it?

Hi,

I think there might be spacing just to make things clearer to a new user. I 
don't think in the example you show, there would be any difference in the 
functionality.

On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 15:17:53 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> How important is blank line in TW? and Where we should use it?
> Look at 
>
>- 
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Adding%20a%20table%20of%20contents%20to%20the%20sidebar
>- https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/2OqPMZwIYGk/b4nj1p2qBAAJ
>
>
> In the first case why tiddlywiki.com recommend extra blank lines as below:
>
>
> 
>
> <>
>
> 
>
>
> Why it does not use the below code
>
> 
> <>
> 
>
>
>
> There are many other cases in tiddlywiki.com
>
> Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: Using the keyboord plugin, is it possible to have tiddler-specific keyboard shortcuts?

2018-09-06 Thread BurningTreeC

edited my previous answer

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[tw5] OT: Just wanted to let you know: The Web Design Museum

2018-09-06 Thread Ste Wilson

Ahhh.. The memories.. 

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization


>
> PMario ..
> I'll check if the "bundler-plugin" can include an import-mechanism that 
> allows us to import state-tiddlers. 


I noticed you can bundle "$:/state..." tiddlers in a JSON but TW won't 
import them. 

Enabling import of them could be good in some situations. For example I 
have a tool that I use a lot to calculate aspect ratios and other 
conversions. Though the state tiddlers change according to user input, on 
"first--time--run" I use them for initial values which I'd like to be able 
to transport rather than have to redo 60.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw5] OT: Just wanted to let you know: The Web Design Museum

Hi folks,

The Web Design Museum: The First Decade of Web Design 


No comments. Just have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Node/TW5 - trying to build tiddly wiki html file from individual tiddlers using --render command