[tw5] Re: ResizeObserver loop limit exceeded

[Kalcifer Kandari]

I'm getting the error on this link http://kalcifer.net/#Nodius, I'm using 
up-to-date Chrome (71.0.3578.98) if that makes a difference. Just to 
clarify, I am referring to the HTML  tag as the source of the 
problem, not a tiddler tag.

On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 10:52:46 PM UTC, Kalcifer Kandari wrote:
>
> Keep getting a big red "ResizeObserver loop limit exceeded" error message 
> every time a tiddler with a  tag is opened. The video otherwise 
> plays and resizes fine. Is there a way to avoid it?
>

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[tw5] Need your help / comment: Batch operation

[Mohammad]

One question frequently raised by newbies is batch operation e.g how to tag 
all tiddlers have certain title, ...

I am preparing a section in TW-Scripts 
 called Batch Operation
Batch operation means do operation on all tiddlers meet certain criteria.

*Certain criteria means like below*


   -  all have special tag
   -  all have certain field
   -  all have certain words in their title
   - ...

Operation means

- Delete all tiddlers meet certain criteria
- Delete a certain field from all tiddlers tagged e.g. myTag
- Add a new tag to all tiddler has certain words in their title
- ...

please help to complete this section. Give your idea on batch operation, 
and certain criteria can be done with TW

How do you like to arrange different parts in this section?

--Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid

[Mohammad]

Good point Mark.

I see I have to completely exit from Quinoid and re-enter again.

Cheers
Mohammad

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Re: [tw5] Re: So overwhelmed...node.js on a godaddy shared hosting site?

[TonyM]

Jennifer,

I could offer you some well priced hosting however I am in Sydney 
Australia, and using a CDN content delivery network may be OK, but you 
should find some cost effective local servers. However at the moment the 
Australian Dollar is not so good, so perhaps it would be cost effective in 
Australian Dollars. My Wholesale provider is https://ventraip.com.au/ 
however I have capacity under my current plan for an additional 65 control 
panel accounts so I could offer you something cheaper. 

Any way look around and ask if you are stuck. PS we had some family friends 
with the Pritchard name many years ago. 

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, 22 January 2019 16:03:58 UTC+11, Jennifer Pritchard wrote:
>
> I'm in Seattle (US) 

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Re: [tw5] Re: So overwhelmed...node.js on a godaddy shared hosting site?

[Jennifer Pritchard]

I'm in Seattle (US) 

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Just a heads-up. If you're using Quinoid for GDrive, Quinoid will think 
it's "boss" as long as it is loaded. That is, you make changes on your 
desktop, and then go back to your still-running Quinoid and make more 
changes from there, Q. will very likely write over the changes you made on 
your desktop. The solution, at the moment, is to be sure to exit completely 
out of Q. before resuming to edit on some other GDrive implementation.

Have fun!
-- Mark

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[tw5] Configuring the Code Mirror Plugin for Powershell formatting

[leeand00]

How does one configure use the code mirror plugin for TW5 to format powershell 
text ?

A while ago I did this with application/x-python but I'm not sure how to 
configure it from application/x-powershell


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[tw5] Re: Intertwingling the TiddlyWiki - TF-IDF and tag inference

[Rob Hoelz]

Again, thanks for sharing, Joe!  I looked through the PDF and had a few 
thoughts:

  * Did you do any additional processing of the tiddler bodies, eg. 
stemming, chunking into bigrams/trigrams, or stripping out various wikitext 
elements like URLs?  If you did, I'd be curious to hear how that affected 
your results!
  * During the talk, you mention the idea of an "assistant" that sits off 
to the side and helps you work on tiddlers as you type.  I often think that 
it would be helpful if TiddlyWiki offered me suggestions for tiddlers that 
might be related to what I'm currently writing, and I think perhaps your 
TF-IDF "significant term" detection approach might make for a step in the 
right direction.  Perhaps the top N TF-IDF terms for each tiddler could be 
encoded as a vector, and tiddlers whose vectors have the highest cosine 
similarity could be offered as matches in this regard - what do you think?

-Rob

On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 12:03:09 PM UTC-6, Rob Hoelz wrote:
>
> Thanks, Joe!  I'll read over that PDF you sent over; as far as the code 
> goes, I think the PDF documentation describing the methodology should 
> suffice.
>
> -Rob
>
> On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 11:33:31 AM UTC-6, Joe Armstrong wrote:
>>
>> The code I wrote was a bit messy and just as an experiment. 
>> Good enough for proof of concept but not for production - it was just 
>> written to test a few ideas.
>>
>> I don't mind sending you a private copy - but explaining how it works 
>> would be low priority.
>>
>> A better idea would be for me to put it up on github together with my 
>> library of Erlang code that
>> parses and mucks with tiddlers - I'm trying to programmatically create 
>> TWs from other data sources.
>>
>> If you saw the talk you'd see that we're interested in "Communicating 
>> TW's" I can imagine TW's sending messages
>> to each other - but this is a long way off ...
>>
>> I did make a little writeup that explains the method (enclosed) - the 
>> code was just a prototype and written in Erlang - the problem at the moment 
>> is that this is not integrated in any way with a live TW - Our idea was to 
>> integrate this through a socket interface.
>>
>> At the moment I'm learning the TW so hopefully when I understand more 
>> I'll figure out how to
>> connect the TW to Erlang through a socket and fun and games will follow 
>> :-)
>>
>> The TF*IDF algorithm is very simple (see the writeup) most of the work is 
>> in tokenising the input
>> into words - from  then on it's easy (in pure JS) - integrating this with 
>> the TW would then be
>> as they say "an exercise to the reader" (that's what I say when I don't 
>> know how to do this :-)
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> /Joe
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 21 January 2019 18:04:10 UTC+1, Rob Hoelz wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone (especially Jeremy and Joe) -
>>>
>>> I finally got around to watching this talk, and I was enraptured the 
>>> whole time, especially by the part about inferring tags and using TF-IDF to 
>>> come up with more accurate suggestions.  Is the source code for your work 
>>> freely available?  I tried my hand at tag inference using forests of 
>>> decision trees a few months back, and I'd like to study alternative 
>>> approaches!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rob
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: feature request: arrow down search results, open with Enter

[Dave]

Cool, thanks

On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 9:06:30 PM UTC-7, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hey Dave,
>
> I asked for this exact feature, and so far BTC got it working by making 
> changes to Thomas' simple search plugin to work in conjunction with BTC's 
> TW5-Navigator plugin. If BTC and Thomas agree, I can share that version on 
> here. Or, either of them can share any other solution/suggestion they might 
> find applies.
>
> Best,
> Diego  
>
> On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 10:02:40 PM UTC-6, Dave wrote:
>>
>> Would this be easily possible in a future version of TW5?
>>
>> *Even better would be a keyboard shortcut to go to the search box,* and 
>> then be able to type, arrow down and then press enter to open the tiddler
>>
>>
>> I realized there's this: 
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/TiddlyWiki/arrow$20down$20search$20results%7Csort:date/tiddlywiki/iVXsEIKnkXA/LGTWe5tBDwAJ
>>
>> but I just thought that would be a nice feature built in.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> - Dave
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: feature request: arrow down search results, open with Enter

[Diego Mesa]

Hey Dave,

I asked for this exact feature, and so far BTC got it working by making 
changes to Thomas' simple search plugin to work in conjunction with BTC's 
TW5-Navigator plugin. If BTC and Thomas agree, I can share that version on 
here. Or, either of them can share any other solution/suggestion they might 
find applies.

Best,
Diego  

On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 10:02:40 PM UTC-6, Dave wrote:
>
> Would this be easily possible in a future version of TW5?
>
> *Even better would be a keyboard shortcut to go to the search box,* and 
> then be able to type, arrow down and then press enter to open the tiddler
>
>
> I realized there's this: 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/TiddlyWiki/arrow$20down$20search$20results%7Csort:date/tiddlywiki/iVXsEIKnkXA/LGTWe5tBDwAJ
>
> but I just thought that would be a nice feature built in.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> - Dave
>

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[tw5] feature request: arrow down search results, open with Enter

[Dave]

Would this be easily possible in a future version of TW5?

*Even better would be a keyboard shortcut to go to the search box,* and 
then be able to type, arrow down and then press enter to open the tiddler


I realized there's this: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/TiddlyWiki/arrow$20down$20search$20results%7Csort:date/tiddlywiki/iVXsEIKnkXA/LGTWe5tBDwAJ

but I just thought that would be a nice feature built in.



Thanks,
- Dave

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[tw5] Re: Comments Plugin

[Damon Pritchett]

Thanks Tony - that did the trick. 

Damon

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Re: [tw5] Re: So overwhelmed...node.js on a godaddy shared hosting site?

[TonyM]

Jenifer,

Which part of the world do you want hosting in?

Tony

On Tuesday, 22 January 2019 12:03:09 UTC+11, Jennifer Pritchard wrote:
>
> Well, I got it to work...sort of...
> By adding a line to the htaccess file, and setting the permissions on 
> public_html to 755, and a couple other things I can't even remember, I got 
> it finally to display the page.  Hurray!  Except...
>
> I immediately get a error about xmlhttprequest, and after a lot of 
> searching, it looks like it's related to the special characters in tiddler 
> names.  If I set authentication to readers=(anon) and writer to be me, and 
> then view the page as anon, I don't get the error (because it's not trying 
> to post back to the server I guess).  If I'm logged in, though, it pops up 
> that error.  Interestingly enough, it *will* let me create new tiddlers and 
> I can confirm that it's saving them back to the server, and when I log off 
> and back on, they're correctly there.  So I suppose technically, I could 
> just ignore the error messages because only I would be seeing them, but 
> it's probably a bigger problem down the road for things I can't even 
> predict yet.  
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4390436/need-to-allow-encoded-slashes-on-apache
>   
> has a good discussion on the error and what I would need to do to fix it in 
> the apache httpd.conf (add a line saying "AllowEncodedSlashes 
> NoDecode")...but unfortunately, GoDaddy doesn't give me that option.  
> Doesn't look like there are any hacks to get around this in htaccess 
> either, so looks like I'm at a dead end.  SO close, yet so far, eh?
>
> On the bright side, this has been a good learning experience.  I've 
> learned how to enable SSH in godaddy, how to set up putty, how to install 
> node *without* using nvm/npm, how to use a lot of node command line 
> features (since I couldn't call them using tiddlywiki without npm support), 
> how to force a shared hosting site to run js code when it really doesn't 
> want to, and finally...I've learned that I need to ditch godaddy.  People 
> have been telling me for ages that I need to (I went with them originally 
> just because I took them up on an offer of $3 a month hosting with a free 
> domain to boot).  I've heard them referred to as nodaddy, and that's been 
> the case for me.  I'd welcome any and all recommendations of other hosts to 
> use that are affordable and won't drive me insane.
>
> Oh, and in my travels through the bowels of stackoverflow and the like, I 
> came across this quote and thought you all would enjoy:
>
> [image: 2019-01-21_17h03_59.png]
>
>
> Thanks for your help in getting me this far!
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 6:43:34 PM UTC-8, Brian Theado wrote:
>>
>> Jennifer,
>>
>> The fact that the tiddlywiki server is receiving a url like "
>> path":"/public_html/index.html.var" means the issue is likely on the you 
>> have apache configured or the way the hosting provider has apache 
>> configured. So you might find better help on some forum related to your 
>> hosting provider.
>>
>> Do you have any reference to /public_html/index.html.var in your 
>> .htaccess file? I'm not sure where that would be coming from.
>>
>> One thing to try just as an experiment. Add 'path-prefix=
>> /public_html/index.html.var' to your tiddlywiki command line (
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#WebServer%20Parameter%3A%20path-prefix). If that 
>> prefix is always added by apache to the url, then it might help you get a 
>> non-404 response from tiddlywiki. Better would be to prevent apache from 
>> sending that prefix, but at least this would tell you if there are any 
>> additional problems once you resolve that.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 4:20 PM Jennifer Pritchard  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, here's what it gave:
>>>
>>> asariel1977@a2plcpnl0868 [~/public_html]$ tiddlywiki notes --listen 
>>> port=3000 debug-level=full
>>> Serving on http://127.0.0.1:3000
>>> (press ctrl-C to exit)
>>>  syncer-server-filesystem: Dispatching 'save' task: $:/StoryList
>>>  filesystem: Saved file 
>>> /home/asariel1977/public_html/notes/tiddlers/$__StoryList.tid
>>> Request path: 
>>> {"protocol":null,"slashes":null,"auth":null,"host":null,"port":null,"hostname":null,"hash":null,"search":null,"query":null,"pathname":"/public_html/index.html.var","path":"/public_html/index.html.var","href":"/public_html/index.html.var"}
>>> Request headers: 
>>> {"host":"localhost:3000","cache-control":"max-age=0","upgrade-insecure-requests":"1","user-agent":"Mozilla/5.0
>>>  
>>> (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) 
>>> Chrome/71.0.3578.98 
>>> Safari/537.36","accept":"text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,image/webp,image/apng,*/*;q=0.8","accept-encoding":"gzip,
>>>  
>>> deflate","accept-language":"en-US,en;q=0.9","cookie":"i3115022_mw1_mw_UserID=1;
>>>  
>>> i3115022_mw1_mw_UserName=Jen; 
>>> i3115022_mw1_mw_Token=eb09507694eff820f432248f7e6e696a; 
>>> 

Re: [tw5] Re: So overwhelmed...node.js on a godaddy shared hosting site?

[Jennifer Pritchard]

Well, I got it to work...sort of...
By adding a line to the htaccess file, and setting the permissions on 
public_html to 755, and a couple other things I can't even remember, I got 
it finally to display the page.  Hurray!  Except...

I immediately get a error about xmlhttprequest, and after a lot of 
searching, it looks like it's related to the special characters in tiddler 
names.  If I set authentication to readers=(anon) and writer to be me, and 
then view the page as anon, I don't get the error (because it's not trying 
to post back to the server I guess).  If I'm logged in, though, it pops up 
that error.  Interestingly enough, it *will* let me create new tiddlers and 
I can confirm that it's saving them back to the server, and when I log off 
and back on, they're correctly there.  So I suppose technically, I could 
just ignore the error messages because only I would be seeing them, but 
it's probably a bigger problem down the road for things I can't even 
predict 
yet.  
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4390436/need-to-allow-encoded-slashes-on-apache
  
has a good discussion on the error and what I would need to do to fix it in 
the apache httpd.conf (add a line saying "AllowEncodedSlashes 
NoDecode")...but unfortunately, GoDaddy doesn't give me that option.  
Doesn't look like there are any hacks to get around this in htaccess 
either, so looks like I'm at a dead end.  SO close, yet so far, eh?

On the bright side, this has been a good learning experience.  I've learned 
how to enable SSH in godaddy, how to set up putty, how to install node 
*without* using nvm/npm, how to use a lot of node command line features 
(since I couldn't call them using tiddlywiki without npm support), how to 
force a shared hosting site to run js code when it really doesn't want to, 
and finally...I've learned that I need to ditch godaddy.  People have been 
telling me for ages that I need to (I went with them originally just 
because I took them up on an offer of $3 a month hosting with a free domain 
to boot).  I've heard them referred to as nodaddy, and that's been the case 
for me.  I'd welcome any and all recommendations of other hosts to use that 
are affordable and won't drive me insane.

Oh, and in my travels through the bowels of stackoverflow and the like, I 
came across this quote and thought you all would enjoy:

[image: 2019-01-21_15h30_00.png]


Thanks for your help in getting me this far!




On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 6:43:34 PM UTC-8, Brian Theado wrote:
>
> Jennifer,
>
> The fact that the tiddlywiki server is receiving a url like "
> path":"/public_html/index.html.var" means the issue is likely on the you 
> have apache configured or the way the hosting provider has apache 
> configured. So you might find better help on some forum related to your 
> hosting provider.
>
> Do you have any reference to /public_html/index.html.var in your .htaccess 
> file? I'm not sure where that would be coming from.
>
> One thing to try just as an experiment. Add 'path-prefix=
> /public_html/index.html.var' to your tiddlywiki command line (
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#WebServer%20Parameter%3A%20path-prefix). If that 
> prefix is always added by apache to the url, then it might help you get a 
> non-404 response from tiddlywiki. Better would be to prevent apache from 
> sending that prefix, but at least this would tell you if there are any 
> additional problems once you resolve that.
>
> Brian
>
> On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 4:20 PM Jennifer Pritchard  > wrote:
>
>> Ok, here's what it gave:
>>
>> asariel1977@a2plcpnl0868 [~/public_html]$ tiddlywiki notes --listen 
>> port=3000 debug-level=full
>> Serving on http://127.0.0.1:3000
>> (press ctrl-C to exit)
>>  syncer-server-filesystem: Dispatching 'save' task: $:/StoryList
>>  filesystem: Saved file 
>> /home/asariel1977/public_html/notes/tiddlers/$__StoryList.tid
>> Request path: 
>> {"protocol":null,"slashes":null,"auth":null,"host":null,"port":null,"hostname":null,"hash":null,"search":null,"query":null,"pathname":"/public_html/index.html.var","path":"/public_html/index.html.var","href":"/public_html/index.html.var"}
>> Request headers: 
>> {"host":"localhost:3000","cache-control":"max-age=0","upgrade-insecure-requests":"1","user-agent":"Mozilla/5.0
>>  
>> (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) 
>> Chrome/71.0.3578.98 
>> Safari/537.36","accept":"text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,image/webp,image/apng,*/*;q=0.8","accept-encoding":"gzip,
>>  
>> deflate","accept-language":"en-US,en;q=0.9","cookie":"i3115022_mw1_mw_UserID=1;
>>  
>> i3115022_mw1_mw_UserName=Jen; 
>> i3115022_mw1_mw_Token=eb09507694eff820f432248f7e6e696a; 
>> i3115022_mw1_mw__session=2son1isnk2tphjpa5e3qiod1kadacji3; 
>> txtMainTab=Timeline; 
>> chkBackstage=false","x-forwarded-for":"71.231.120.115","x-forwarded-host":"
>> www.datajen.com","x-forwarded-server":"datajen.com","connection":"close"}
>> authenticatedUsername: undefined
>>
>>
>> So...I guess 

[tw5] ResizeObserver loop limit exceeded

[Kalcifer Kandari]

Keep getting a big red "ResizeObserver loop limit exceeded" error message 
every time a tiddler with a  tag is opened. The video otherwise 
plays and resizes fine. Is there a way to avoid it?

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[tw5] Re: Highlight in bold the dates in the Recent tab

[TonyM]

Thomas,

You so often seem to know the correct css to alter, do you have a reference 
work or a lookup process you can share, eg inspect or search in tiddlers?

Thanks
Tony

On Monday, 21 January 2019 07:46:09 UTC+11, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hi Xabriña,
>
> Nice idea! I put this in a tiddler tagged $:/tags/Stylesheet 
>
> /* Recent tab */
>
> .tc-sidebar-lists .tc-timeline {
>font-weight: bold;
> }
>
>
> Happy styling!
> Thomas
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Re: [tw5] is it possible to disable drag and drop completely with a simple stylesheet?

[TonyM]

Ch,

Yes, it does look like in the absence of import dropping a link on a 
browser window results in the default browser response to navigate to that 
address.

If you do allow drop, but don't display anything be careful in the case 
that someone drops a very large file on top, as it will be stored in the 
active wiki pending import until reload, this could impact performance. 

Try replacing the content of $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/import with
\define lingo-base() $:/language/Import/


\define buttons()
<$button message="tm-delete-tiddler" param=<>><>
\end


<$list filter="[all[current]field:plugin-type[import]]">





Import is not permitted in this wiki, please cancel


<>


{{||$:/core/ui/ImportListing}}


<>







It will thus accept the drop, list the import but only allow cancel.

Regards
Tony





On Tuesday, 22 January 2019 04:44:55 UTC+11, ch wrote:
>
> - thanks tony!
>
> i did go with the latter method, i.e.removed the DropzoneWidget in the 
> shadow tiddler '$:/core/ui/PageTemplate' - which works perfectly! (as much 
> as i have tested, so far...) - no more "$:/Import" tiddler that did pop-up 
> without this fix - great!
>
> however, a side effect of this change makes it possible (for example) to 
> drag a url and drop it into my "read-only-mode" wiki, and the browser does 
> in fact look-up that url! :-) i guess that's the default behaviour for 
> browsers to do. but, it's easy to go back since the user can just hit the 
> back button, and my "read-only-mode" single-file-wiki is reloaded from disk 
> - to extend the feature, maybe it could be nice to disable (or maybe not, 
> since it's the de-facto way for browsers to do...) the standard behaviour - 
> to look-up the new url - and just ignore the "url drop". anyway, no more 
> "$:/Import" tiddler to confuse the readers of the "read-only-mode" wiki - 
> thanks again, tony!
>
> i think this is a feature that would be nice to have with an "easy tick" 
> check box in the configuration panel
>
> cheers!
> /ch
>
> Den fre 18 jan. 2019 kl 00:15 skrev TonyM  >:
>
>> *Quick and Dirty*
>>
>> The Tiddler $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/import is tagged with 
>> $:/tags/ViewTemplate 
>> the 
>> $:/Import
>> Tiddler will be created and Opened but you can't import anything
>>
>> *Less Dirty (but edits important shadow tiddler)*
>>
>> Edit 
>> $:/core/ui/PageTemplate
>>
>> And remove <$dropzone> and 
>>
>> Delete your edited $:/core/ui/PageTemplate to restore function
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 6:10:27 AM UTC+11, ch wrote:
>>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> i've made a simple "read-only-mode" of a wiki (with a couple of macros, 
>>> stylesheets and viewtemplates), but noticed that i also need to disable 
>>> drag and drop completely (i.e. not able to drag and drop anything within 
>>> the wiki or from other windows) so that tiddler "$:/Import" doesn't pop-up 
>>> when an item is dropped into the wiki.
>>>
>>> so, is it possible to implement this feature with a simple stylesheet, 
>>> or other configuration options?
>>>
>>> kind regards,
>>>
>>> ch
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Comments Plugin

[TonyM]

Damon,

Use the method to display a tag as a tag pill such as
{{$:/tags/ViewTemplate||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}}

Now click on the pill, there will be an ordered list of the items using the 
Tag $:/tags/ViewTemplate
You can click and drag items in the list into the order you want

This will update the list field in $:/tags/ViewTemplate

The following will list all system tags with the $:/ Prefix, and relies on 
the changing currentTiddler to display a tag pill for each, for which you 
can change the order
<$list filter="[is[system]prefix[$:/tags/]]">
{{||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}}


Regards
Tony

On Monday, 21 January 2019 16:34:27 UTC+11, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I've got a tiddler that is tagged with $:/tags/ViewTemplate that I use to 
> append text to the bottom of all tiddlers with a certain tag. I've started 
> playing with the new comments plugin, which I like a lot, but it shows up 
> before the text that I'm appending on those certain tiddlers. I'd actually 
> like the comments to be at the bottom with my appended text just above the 
> comments. How would I go about doing this or is it even possible?
>
> Thanks once again,
>
> Damon
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Re: [tw5] Re: <$wikify> needs <$text> to honour tilde-based wikilink suppression

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi David

Can you show the output you’re trying to obtain and show the fields you’re 
using of the tiddlers tagged InstalledPlugins?

Best wishes

jeremy.

> On 20 Jan 2019, at 20:53, David Nebauer  wrote:
> 
> Here is the actual use case where I concatenate a number of tiddlers 
> describing plugins. For each tiddler I am using the concatenated content of a 
> tiddler field as a heading, prefixing it with a '! ' heading token.
> 
> <$list filter="[tag[InstalledPlugin]sort[title]]">
>   <$setvars pluginNames="[input[][][, ]]" _input={{!!plugin.names}}>
> <$wikify name="pluginsHeading" text="""! <$text text=<>/>""" 
> output="html">
>   <>
> 
>   
>   <$transclude mode="block" tiddler=<>/>
> 
> 
> Here is where I needed the to use <$text> to ensure tildes in the field 
> content are honoured.
> Can the above snippet be simplified?
> 
> On Sunday, 20 January 2019 22:42:28 UTC+9:30, David Nebauer wrote:
> In playing about with listing tiddlers I discovered that passing a value like 
> "~WikiLink" to <$wikify> resulted in it being rendered as a wikilink despite 
> the tilde. However, adding a <$text> widget caused <$wikify> to behave as I 
> expected.
> 
> Here is an example:
> 
> <$set name="testVar" value="WikiLink ~NoWikiLink">
> 
>   
> 
>   <$wikify name="testOutput1" text=<> output="html">
> <>
>   
> 
>   
> 
>   <$wikify name="testOutput2" text="<$text text=<>/>" output="html">
> <>
>   
> 
> 
> 
> This resulted in the following output:
> 
> WikiLink  NoWikiLink 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> WikiLink  NoWikiLink
> 
> 
> 
> I don't understand why the <$wikify> widget does not honour the tilde.
> 
> 
> 
> I don't understand why adding a <$text> widget causes the <$wikify> widget to 
> behave as expected.
> 
> 
> 
> I'm sure this makes sense to someone with intimate knowledge of how these 
> widgets operate, but it is counterintuitive to newbies who expect <$wikify> 
> to render wikitext, and <$text> to do the opposite, as described in 
> TextWidget  help.
> 
> 
> 
> Is there a better solution than the <$text> one I stumbled across?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [tw5] <$wikify> needs <$text> to honour tilde-based wikilink suppression

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi David

The first wikify widget in the example below generates a string of HTML code 
"My Heading” which you can see when it is directly displayed 
by the text widget. When you use the double angle bracket syntax to render it, 
that HTML string gets wikified a second time, and the  HTML tag is rendered 
into the equivalent wikitext.

In the case of the second wikify widget, you’re wikifying a text widget that 
renders the plain text of the variable. Thus, the result stored in the 
testOutput2 variable is the plain text of the original testVar. Then, when you 
render it with double angle brackets, it is wikified again, but in inline mode, 
and so the “!” isn’t recognised as a heading because it is block level.

Best wishes

Jeremy


> On 21 Jan 2019, at 13:30, David Nebauer  wrote:
> 
> There does not appear to be a universal rule such as: "to prevent double 
> wikification, always use a <$text> widget when loading a $ widget 
> from a variable."
> 
> To show what I mean, consider this variation of Jeremy's test rig where I set 
> the variable to a heading string:
> 
> <$set name="testVar" value="! My Heading">
> 
>   <$wikify name="testOutput1" text=<> output="html">
> <$text text=<>/>
> <>
>   
> 
>   <$wikify name="testOutput2" text="<$text text=<>/>" output="html">
> <$text text=<>/>
> <>
>   
> 
> 
> 
> It results in this output:
> 
> 
> My Heading
> 
> My Heading
> 
> 
> ! My Heading
> 
> ! My Heading
> 
> 
> 
> 
> In this case the outcome is the opposite of the experience with tildes and 
> wikitext: using the <$text> widget results in the "wrong" result.
> 
> Is there a universal technique to ensure any variable value will be rendered 
> "correctly," or is it necessary to experiment with your input to determine 
> whether to use <$text> with it or not?
> 
> David.
> 
> 
> On Monday, 21 January 2019 00:09:28 UTC+9:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> I think that the problem here may be the use of double angle brackets to 
> render <> and <> which causes the content of those 
> variables to be wikified. In this case, you've already wikified the content 
> of the variable, so you'll be wikifying it twice.
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Re: [tw5] <$wikify> needs <$text> to honour tilde-based wikilink suppression

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi David

My wiki was not able to recognise a $setvars widget from your code two post 
above ... 

But I also have good news for you. I cannot guarantee that this covers any 
case you throw at it, but it does cover wikilinks, the part of your first 
example that is sensitive for double wikification: 

<$set name="testVar" value="WikiLink ~NoWikiLink">

  

  <$wikify name="testOutput1" text=<> output="html">
<$set name="tv-wikilinks" value="no">
<>

  



<$set name="testVar" value="! Wiki Title – WikiTitle – ~WikiTitle">

  

  <$wikify name="testOutput1" text=<> output="html">
<$set name="tv-wikilinks" value="no">
<>

  



Is this what you are looking for?

Good luck!
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[tw5] Re: Quinoid

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

So I've accidentally created a photo gallery? I imagine that will have to 
be eventually fixed. I can't think of a use-case for it, can you? Other 
than extreme mission creep.

Internally, you are probably creating a host of javascript errors. Whether 
that's a problem or not, hard to say.

BTW, you should be able to see more informative titles after you have 
swiped through your existing pages and then gone back out to the list. Once 
I have code to persist that data, the titles should be user-readable 
whenever you return. The updates don't occur immediately because the code 
can't determine the title until it has loaded the page and run the page's 
code, which is an expensive process.

-- Mark

On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 9:03:24 AM UTC-8, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Mark S.
>
> I just noticed you can "install" a single JPG file in it ... was that 
> intended?
>
> UPDATE: That was enabled through the LOCAL EXPLORER. And you can get it to 
> accept several image and movie formats :-).
>
> [image: Screenshot_20190121-183716.png]
>
>
> Josiah
>
>
> Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Latest release here at a new place:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases/tag/v0.0.03alpha
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Comments Plugin

[Damon Pritchett]

Hi Dave,

Thanks for the reply. I tried what you suggested, but it had absolutely no 
effect. 

For reference, my tiddler is named Append-Backlinks and the text of the 
tiddler is this:

<$list filter="[all[current]tag[SomeTag]]" variable="dummy">


Mentioned in:
<>


Damon


On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 7:21:54 AM UTC-7, Dave Gifford - 
http://www.giffmex.org/ wrote:
>
> Sorry, I should have noted that when you add the tiddlers to the list 
> field, add them at the end of the list.
>
> On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 8:21:05 AM UTC-6, Dave Gifford - 
> http://www.giffmex.org/ wrote:
>>
>> Hi there
>>
>> Go to Sidebar > More > Shadows > $:/tags/ViewTemplate (or search for that 
>> tiddler)
>>
>> In the list field of that tiddler, paste the titles of your 
>> viewtemplate-tagged tiddler and the Comments plugin relevant tiddler, in 
>> the order you want. If your tiddler has any spaces, you should double 
>> bracket that tiddler's title.
>>
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[tw5] Re: Intertwingling the TiddlyWiki - TF-IDF and tag inference

[Rob Hoelz]

Thanks, Joe!  I'll read over that PDF you sent over; as far as the code 
goes, I think the PDF documentation describing the methodology should 
suffice.

-Rob

On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 11:33:31 AM UTC-6, Joe Armstrong wrote:
>
> The code I wrote was a bit messy and just as an experiment. 
> Good enough for proof of concept but not for production - it was just 
> written to test a few ideas.
>
> I don't mind sending you a private copy - but explaining how it works 
> would be low priority.
>
> A better idea would be for me to put it up on github together with my 
> library of Erlang code that
> parses and mucks with tiddlers - I'm trying to programmatically create TWs 
> from other data sources.
>
> If you saw the talk you'd see that we're interested in "Communicating 
> TW's" I can imagine TW's sending messages
> to each other - but this is a long way off ...
>
> I did make a little writeup that explains the method (enclosed) - the code 
> was just a prototype and written in Erlang - the problem at the moment is 
> that this is not integrated in any way with a live TW - Our idea was to 
> integrate this through a socket interface.
>
> At the moment I'm learning the TW so hopefully when I understand more I'll 
> figure out how to
> connect the TW to Erlang through a socket and fun and games will follow :-)
>
> The TF*IDF algorithm is very simple (see the writeup) most of the work is 
> in tokenising the input
> into words - from  then on it's easy (in pure JS) - integrating this with 
> the TW would then be
> as they say "an exercise to the reader" (that's what I say when I don't 
> know how to do this :-)
>
> Cheers
>
> /Joe
>
>
> On Monday, 21 January 2019 18:04:10 UTC+1, Rob Hoelz wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone (especially Jeremy and Joe) -
>>
>> I finally got around to watching this talk, and I was enraptured the 
>> whole time, especially by the part about inferring tags and using TF-IDF to 
>> come up with more accurate suggestions.  Is the source code for your work 
>> freely available?  I tried my hand at tag inference using forests of 
>> decision trees a few months back, and I'd like to study alternative 
>> approaches!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rob
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] is it possible to disable drag and drop completely with a simple stylesheet?

[ch]

- thanks tony!

i did go with the latter method, i.e.removed the DropzoneWidget in the
shadow tiddler '$:/core/ui/PageTemplate' - which works perfectly! (as much
as i have tested, so far...) - no more "$:/Import" tiddler that did pop-up
without this fix - great!

however, a side effect of this change makes it possible (for example) to
drag a url and drop it into my "read-only-mode" wiki, and the browser does
in fact look-up that url! :-) i guess that's the default behaviour for
browsers to do. but, it's easy to go back since the user can just hit the
back button, and my "read-only-mode" single-file-wiki is reloaded from disk
- to extend the feature, maybe it could be nice to disable (or maybe not,
since it's the de-facto way for browsers to do...) the standard behaviour -
to look-up the new url - and just ignore the "url drop". anyway, no more
"$:/Import" tiddler to confuse the readers of the "read-only-mode" wiki -
thanks again, tony!

i think this is a feature that would be nice to have with an "easy tick"
check box in the configuration panel

cheers!
/ch

Den fre 18 jan. 2019 kl 00:15 skrev TonyM :

> *Quick and Dirty*
>
> The Tiddler $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/import is tagged with $:/tags/ViewTemplate
> the
> $:/Import
> Tiddler will be created and Opened but you can't import anything
>
> *Less Dirty (but edits important shadow tiddler)*
>
> Edit
> $:/core/ui/PageTemplate
>
> And remove <$dropzone> and 
>
> Delete your edited $:/core/ui/PageTemplate to restore function
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 6:10:27 AM UTC+11, ch wrote:
>>
>> hi,
>>
>> i've made a simple "read-only-mode" of a wiki (with a couple of macros,
>> stylesheets and viewtemplates), but noticed that i also need to disable
>> drag and drop completely (i.e. not able to drag and drop anything within
>> the wiki or from other windows) so that tiddler "$:/Import" doesn't pop-up
>> when an item is dropped into the wiki.
>>
>> so, is it possible to implement this feature with a simple stylesheet, or
>> other configuration options?
>>
>> kind regards,
>>
>> ch
>>
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[tw5] Re: Intertwingling the TiddlyWiki - TF-IDF and tag inference

[Joe Armstrong]

The code I wrote was a bit messy and just as an experiment. 
Good enough for proof of concept but not for production - it was just 
written to test a few ideas.

I don't mind sending you a private copy - but explaining how it works would 
be low priority.

A better idea would be for me to put it up on github together with my 
library of Erlang code that
parses and mucks with tiddlers - I'm trying to programmatically create TWs 
from other data sources.

If you saw the talk you'd see that we're interested in "Communicating TW's" 
I can imagine TW's sending messages
to each other - but this is a long way off ...

I did make a little writeup that explains the method (enclosed) - the code 
was just a prototype and written in Erlang - the problem at the moment is 
that this is not integrated in any way with a live TW - Our idea was to 
integrate this through a socket interface.

At the moment I'm learning the TW so hopefully when I understand more I'll 
figure out how to
connect the TW to Erlang through a socket and fun and games will follow :-)

The TF*IDF algorithm is very simple (see the writeup) most of the work is 
in tokenising the input
into words - from  then on it's easy (in pure JS) - integrating this with 
the TW would then be
as they say "an exercise to the reader" (that's what I say when I don't 
know how to do this :-)

Cheers

/Joe


On Monday, 21 January 2019 18:04:10 UTC+1, Rob Hoelz wrote:
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> Hi everyone (especially Jeremy and Joe) -
>
> I finally got around to watching this talk, and I was enraptured the whole 
> time, especially by the part about inferring tags and using TF-IDF to come 
> up with more accurate suggestions.  Is the source code for your work freely 
> available?  I tried my hand at tag inference using forests of decision 
> trees a few months back, and I'd like to study alternative approaches!
>
> Thanks,
> Rob
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[tw5] Intertwingling the TiddlyWiki - TF-IDF and tag inference

[Rob Hoelz]

Hi everyone (especially Jeremy and Joe) -

I finally got around to watching this talk, and I was enraptured the whole 
time, especially by the part about inferring tags and using TF-IDF to come 
up with more accurate suggestions.  Is the source code for your work freely 
available?  I tried my hand at tag inference using forests of decision 
trees a few months back, and I'd like to study alternative approaches!

Thanks,
Rob

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Mark S.

I just noticed you can open a single JPG file in it ... was that intended?

Josiah


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>> Latest release here at a new place:
>>
>> https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases/tag/v0.0.03alpha
>>
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[tw5] Re: Highlight in bold the dates in the Recent tab

[Xabriña]

Yes, it was that. If I wanted to apply an underline to the dates just how 
could I do it? In this variation I have done, both the bold typeface and 
the color are put correctly, but the underline applies it to the whole 
table of contents. Is there any way that it only applies to dates ??? This 
is the code that I have used:

!!! /* ''Recent tab'' */

.tc-sidebar-lists .tc-timeline {
 text-decoration: underline; font-weight: bold; color: red;
}

Thank you!!!

El lunes, 21 de enero de 2019, 16:15:09 (UTC+1), Thomas Elmiger escribió:
>
> Do you have spaces in the tag name? That would not work. You can copy from 
> my post above and should see the text without spaces in the tag pill when 
> you are done.
>
> The tiddler type is optional, I usually leave it blank. 
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Mark S. wrote:
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> Latest release here at a new place:
>
> https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases/tag/v0.0.03alpha
>

Upside: My install experience on Android 8.0.0 was much like Mohammad's. 
Easy with no "Permissions" complications.

Downside: The "addresses" shown in my instance are no longer human readable 
... I'm assuming that you edit now in a different place than origin? 
Anyway, wondering IF the name of the TW could be displayed upfront?

Many thanks for brilliant work!
Josiah


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[tw5] Re: Highlight in bold the dates in the Recent tab

[Thomas Elmiger]

Do you have spaces in the tag name? That would not work. You can copy from my 
post above and should see the text without spaces in the tag pill when you are 
done.

The tiddler type is optional, I usually leave it blank. 

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[tw5] Re: Comments Plugin

[Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/]

Sorry, I should have noted that when you add the tiddlers to the list 
field, add them at the end of the list.

On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 8:21:05 AM UTC-6, Dave Gifford - 
http://www.giffmex.org/ wrote:
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> Hi there
>
> Go to Sidebar > More > Shadows > $:/tags/ViewTemplate (or search for that 
> tiddler)
>
> In the list field of that tiddler, paste the titles of your 
> viewtemplate-tagged tiddler and the Comments plugin relevant tiddler, in 
> the order you want. If your tiddler has any spaces, you should double 
> bracket that tiddler's title.
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[tw5] Re: Comments Plugin

[Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/]

Hi there

Go to Sidebar > More > Shadows > $:/tags/ViewTemplate (or search for that 
tiddler)

In the list field of that tiddler, paste the titles of your 
viewtemplate-tagged tiddler and the Comments plugin relevant tiddler, in 
the order you want. If your tiddler has any spaces, you should double 
bracket that tiddler's title.

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Re: [tw5] <$wikify> needs <$text> to honour tilde-based wikilink suppression

[David Nebauer]

There does not appear to be a universal rule such as: "to prevent double 
wikification, always use a <$text> widget when loading a $ widget 
from a variable."

To show what I mean, consider this variation of Jeremy's test rig where I 
set the variable to a heading string:

<$set name="testVar" value="! My Heading">

  <$wikify name="testOutput1" text=<> output="html">
<$text text=<>/>
<>
  

  <$wikify name="testOutput2" text="<$text text=<>/>" 
output="html">
<$text text=<>/>
<>
  



It results in this output:


My Heading
My Heading

! My Heading

! My Heading



In this case the outcome is the opposite of the experience with tildes and 
wikitext: using the <$text> widget results in the "wrong" result.

Is there a universal technique to ensure any variable value will be 
rendered "correctly," or is it necessary to experiment with your input to 
determine whether to use <$text> with it or not?

David.


On Monday, 21 January 2019 00:09:28 UTC+9:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I think that the problem here may be the use of double angle brackets to 
> render <> and <> which causes the content of 
> those variables to be wikified. In this case, you've already wikified the 
> content of the variable, so you'll be wikifying it twice.
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[tw5] Re: Highlight in bold the dates in the Recent tab

[Xabriña]

Thank you, Thomas. I have created a tiddler calling it My styles. Inside I 
have put the code that you have told me and in the type of Tiddler I 
selected text / css and as a label I have put $: / tags / Stylesheet. But 
it has not worked for me, I think I have to be doing something wrong ...

El domingo, 20 de enero de 2019, 21:46:09 (UTC+1), Thomas Elmiger escribió:
>
> Hi Xabriña,
>
> Nice idea! I put this in a tiddler tagged $:/tags/Stylesheet 
>
> /* Recent tab */
>
> .tc-sidebar-lists .tc-timeline {
>font-weight: bold;
> }
>
>
> Happy styling!
> Thomas
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Re: [tw5] Re: Quinoid

[Stefan Pfister]

really cool app, thanks i got it. ;)

Am Mo., 21. Jan. 2019, 11:51 hat Watt 
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> Found it, thanks.
> Steffan, if you're still looking it is here;
> https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases/tag/v0.0.03alpha
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Re: [tw5] Re: Quinoid

[Watt]

Click on Assets.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Quinoid

[Watt]

Found it, thanks.
Steffan, if you're still looking it is here;
https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases/tag/v0.0.03alpha

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[tw5] KaTeX configuration

[drekin]

Hello, I'm trying to use TiddlyWiki with Node.js to write down some 
mathematical notes in an organized way. I would like to use LaTeX. How to 
customize the KaTeX plugin? For example I'd like my inline math to by 
delimited by single $-signs as usual, and I'd like to provide my custom 
macro definitions. I guess it is possible to have a configuration file in 
my wiki folder, but I couldn't find any information. Thank you.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Quinoid

[Stefan Pfister]

Link is dead: 404 error.

Am Mo., 21. Jan. 2019, 11:20 hat Mohammad 
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> Watt
> Download the app
>
> quinoid-190120a-v0-0-0.apk
> 1.97 MB
> See the link by Mark
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[tw5] Re: Quinoid

[Mohammad]

Watt
Download the app

quinoid-190120a-v0-0-0.apk
1.97 MB
See the link by Mark

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid

[Watt]

Hi Mark, looking forward to trying it out but I'm not sure what to download. 
It's probably staring me in the face but I can't see an apk there. 

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