date:20190531

Try this; Delete $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/subtitle
Don't worry, it will not really be deleted, only your modified version of 
it, which will reset the original.

<:-)



On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 9:24:24 PM UTC+2, haroulito wrote:
>
> Hi there,
> Maybe a daft question but I've been trying things on TW for a while today 
> and should get on with some work! :-) So I thought to give up the search 
> and pick your brains for some insights. 
>
> I wanted to hide the "modified" timestamp from the standard tiddlers in 
> view mode. I modified $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/subtitle by deleting 
> $:/tags/ViewTemplate from it's tag field. It did the trick.
>
> When I tagged $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/subtitle again with 
> $:/tags/ViewTemplate, the subtitle (with the timestamp) became visible 
> again in standard tiddlers but $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/subtitle started 
> displaying two timestamps while it had none before. How did I manage to 
> mess up the template of a shadow tiddler?
>
> Many thanks 
> H.
>
> P.s. I use ver 5.1.19
>
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[tw5] question about subtitle visibility & $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/subtitle

2019-05-31 Thread haroulito

Hi there,
Maybe a daft question but I've been trying things on TW for a while today 
and should get on with some work! :-) So I thought to give up the search 
and pick your brains for some insights. 

I wanted to hide the "modified" timestamp from the standard tiddlers in 
view mode. I modified $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/subtitle by deleting 
$:/tags/ViewTemplate from it's tag field. It did the trick.

When I tagged $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/subtitle again with 
$:/tags/ViewTemplate, the subtitle (with the timestamp) became visible 
again in standard tiddlers but $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/subtitle started 
displaying two timestamps while it had none before. How did I manage to 
mess up the template of a shadow tiddler?

Many thanks 
H.

P.s. I use ver 5.1.19

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Re: [tw5] Re: Another datapoint on extremely large TiddlyWikis

2019-05-31 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

What platform? What operating system? How much memory? How many Ghz?

I find I have to reboot FF periodically. In the process manager, I can see 
it slowly take over more and more memory. It's done this in every version, 
including the latest, greatest, "improved" version.

On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 11:21:16 AM UTC-7, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hey Jeremy,
>
> Ive recently noticed my wiki (10MB) has been very slow, much more so on FF 
> than on chrome. Im very interested in your results, and how I would go 
> about debugging my wiki.
>
> On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 11:13:50 AM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark
>>
>> What are the physical characteristics of the machine that ran your tests? 
>> RAM? Ghz? Make? Type of HD?
>>
>>
>> I’ve recently got a modern Mac with 16GB RAM, 512MB SSD and a 3 GHz Intel 
>> Core i5. But I went back to my old 2013 MacBook Pro (also 16GB RAM and 
>> 512MB SSD) and tried the file there. It only runs 10-20% slower than on the 
>> big computer.
>>
>> I suspect that having 16GB RAM has the biggest impact on performance.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 3:50:24 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
>>> Several of the projects I’m working on for Federatial clients involve 
>>> large wikis, in the 10MB to 100MB range. I’ve posted before about the 
>>> surprisingly good performance of such large wikis, and recently worked on 
>>> improving performance further through the introduction of more 
>>> sophisticated indexing strategies. 
>>>
>>> As an experiment, today I just tried combining the data from several 
>>> large wikis to make a compound wiki that weighs in at 874.9MB (nearly a 
>>> gigabyte!). To my astonishment, Chrome and Firefox will both run it with 
>>> reasonable performance (Safari complains about resource usage). 
>>>
>>> The wiki actually only contains 60 tiddlers, of which 13 are plugins 
>>> containing a total of 64,202 shadow tiddlers (this project uses plugins to 
>>> package wiki content). There are just over 3,000 images, weighing in at 
>>> about 197MB of base64 encoded text. 
>>>
>>> I don’t think such large wikis are practical for everyday use right now, 
>>> but they certainly will be in the next few years. (None of this is actually 
>>> to praise TiddlyWiki; it’s the hardworking browser engineers over the last 
>>> decade that we have to thank). 
>>>
>>> Best wishes 
>>>
>>> Jeremy.
>>
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[tw5] TW Obfuscation for Sharing+Debugging

2019-05-31 Thread Diego Mesa

Hello all,

Im very interested in debugging my TW, but dont want to share all of my 
data. In order to share as close to "As is" as possible, Im interested in 
"obfuscating" it. Note: I dont mean this in a real cryptographic/provable 
sense - more just practically. 

I think a simple system would just replace every word/title/link in your TW 
with a random string, perhaps of equal length (or not), *while maintaing 
correct inter-linking.* That way, we can more easily share/debugg TW and/or 
plugins. 

Has anyone developed something like this? 

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Re: [tw5] Re: Another datapoint on extremely large TiddlyWikis

2019-05-31 Thread Diego Mesa

Hey Jeremy,

Ive recently noticed my wiki (10MB) has been very slow, much more so on FF 
than on chrome. Im very interested in your results, and how I would go 
about debugging my wiki.

On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 11:13:50 AM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Mark
>
> What are the physical characteristics of the machine that ran your tests? 
> RAM? Ghz? Make? Type of HD?
>
>
> I’ve recently got a modern Mac with 16GB RAM, 512MB SSD and a 3 GHz Intel 
> Core i5. But I went back to my old 2013 MacBook Pro (also 16GB RAM and 
> 512MB SSD) and tried the file there. It only runs 10-20% slower than on the 
> big computer.
>
> I suspect that having 16GB RAM has the biggest impact on performance.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 3:50:24 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Several of the projects I’m working on for Federatial clients involve 
>> large wikis, in the 10MB to 100MB range. I’ve posted before about the 
>> surprisingly good performance of such large wikis, and recently worked on 
>> improving performance further through the introduction of more 
>> sophisticated indexing strategies. 
>>
>> As an experiment, today I just tried combining the data from several 
>> large wikis to make a compound wiki that weighs in at 874.9MB (nearly a 
>> gigabyte!). To my astonishment, Chrome and Firefox will both run it with 
>> reasonable performance (Safari complains about resource usage). 
>>
>> The wiki actually only contains 60 tiddlers, of which 13 are plugins 
>> containing a total of 64,202 shadow tiddlers (this project uses plugins to 
>> package wiki content). There are just over 3,000 images, weighing in at 
>> about 197MB of base64 encoded text. 
>>
>> I don’t think such large wikis are practical for everyday use right now, 
>> but they certainly will be in the next few years. (None of this is actually 
>> to praise TiddlyWiki; it’s the hardworking browser engineers over the last 
>> decade that we have to thank). 
>>
>> Best wishes 
>>
>> Jeremy.
>
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[tw5] Re: TW online, for free - the simplest way

Thanks for the upvote

What I'd like to comment is that *Awareness Of Github here on GG sometimes 
> matters*.
>
> FYI I have asked before about whether "upvoting" on GitHub is worth it. I 
> have had mixed replies on the issue.
>

Well, only the final decision maker for these things can answer that for 
sure. But my take on it is that even if Big J should dislike a proposal I 
make then having others upvote on it indicates that the issue does touch 
*something* of importance.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: A new release of Tiddlyshow App

Ciao Mohammad

Mohammad wrote:
>
> The NOT GOOD SIDE of Tiddlywiki forum is that, while there is a lot of 
> really kind and helpful people in the community, there is NO real and 
> long-term collaboration between them so most of us work alone on our codes!
> If there was! we had much better plugins, codes, ... here
>

I think you are right. 

GG is very fragmentary. Its good for "flow". It is terrible for "building". 

People like me who don't code but who can comment well on function and 
design can end up feeling orphaned. As IF we were second level. But IMO 
good testers are important.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: TW online, for free - the simplest way

Mat

Its got accepted 
(https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/3960#issuecomment-497742969). 
I doubt that was my vote. Rather the tool is obviously useful. 

What I'd like to comment is that *Awareness Of Github here on GG sometimes 
matters*.

FYI I have asked before about whether "upvoting" on GitHub is worth it. I 
have had mixed replies on the issue.

Best wishes
Josiah

Mat wrote:
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> If you agree with the pull request 
>  - or any pull 
> request or issue-report on Github for that matter - please show it by 
> giving it a thumbs up there. Your "vote" is an indication of the need for 
> it, otherwise it is just me suggesting something. 
>
> <:-)
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Re: [tw5] Re: Another datapoint on extremely large TiddlyWikis

Hi Mark

> What are the physical characteristics of the machine that ran your tests? 
> RAM? Ghz? Make? Type of HD?

I’ve recently got a modern Mac with 16GB RAM, 512MB SSD and a 3 GHz Intel Core 
i5. But I went back to my old 2013 MacBook Pro (also 16GB RAM and 512MB SSD) 
and tried the file there. It only runs 10-20% slower than on the big computer.

I suspect that having 16GB RAM has the biggest impact on performance.

Best wishes

Jeremy

> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 3:50:24 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> Several of the projects I’m working on for Federatial clients involve large 
> wikis, in the 10MB to 100MB range. I’ve posted before about the surprisingly 
> good performance of such large wikis, and recently worked on improving 
> performance further through the introduction of more sophisticated indexing 
> strategies. 
> 
> As an experiment, today I just tried combining the data from several large 
> wikis to make a compound wiki that weighs in at 874.9MB (nearly a gigabyte!). 
> To my astonishment, Chrome and Firefox will both run it with reasonable 
> performance (Safari complains about resource usage). 
> 
> The wiki actually only contains 60 tiddlers, of which 13 are plugins 
> containing a total of 64,202 shadow tiddlers (this project uses plugins to 
> package wiki content). There are just over 3,000 images, weighing in at about 
> 197MB of base64 encoded text. 
> 
> I don’t think such large wikis are practical for everyday use right now, but 
> they certainly will be in the next few years. (None of this is actually to 
> praise TiddlyWiki; it’s the hardworking browser engineers over the last 
> decade that we have to thank). 
> 
> Best wishes 
> 
> Jeremy.
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[tw5] TiddlyDrive Rebooted!

2019-05-31 Thread Joshua Stubbs

TiddlyDrive is back up and running. If there's a certificate failure this 
time, then the problem is with GitHub.

The new domain is https://tiddlydrive.github.io

Please see my official post for further updates:

https://twitter.com/Lord_Ratte/status/1134469005085949957

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[tw5] Re: TW online, for free - the simplest way

If you agree with the pull request 
 - or any pull request 
or issue-report on Github for that matter - please show it by giving it a 
thumbs up there. Your "vote" is an indication of the need for it, otherwise 
it is just me suggesting something. 

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: TW online, for free - the simplest way

2019-05-31 Thread Mohammad

Mat,
 As Josiah siad, there is nothing in Tiddlywiki.com to refer to this! While 
I used your page in the past!
Look at https://tiddlywiki.com/#Saving%20on%20TiddlySpot
This is a painful way! I appreciate to ask Jeremy to add this easy-to-go 
link!

I noted you have pulled a request! 

Thanks
Mohammad

On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 6:33:11 PM UTC+4:30, Mat wrote:
>
> Thanks. It's been around for maybe 2 years. 
>
> Is it linked to from anywhere in docs TiddlySpot is mentioned in?
>>
>
> Just posted a PR.
>
> <:-)
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[tw5] Re: TW online, for free - the simplest way

2019-05-31 Thread Mohammad

Thank you Mat!

That is awesome!

--Mohammad

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>
> Just a note to say I've updated 
>
> tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com
>
> to TW5 version 5.1.19.
>
> It takes one minute to set up a new wiki.
>
> Note:
> This site is only a "skin" on top of the actual TiddlySpot setup page.
> You must use a Chrome browser for setting up a TW5 on TiddlySpot. Once set 
> up, use any browser to visit or edit it.
>
> For anyone who doesn't know, TiddlySpot free tiddly-service by cousins 
> Daniel and Simon Baird and it has been a pillar for a decade. I use it for 
> all of my public stuff and some of my private stuff and I do all my tiddly 
> experiments there. The real TiddlySpot site is http://tiddlyspot.com/  
> but this site doesn't offer any simple way to set up a TW *version 5*, so 
> I made the above "skin" to help you to quickly set up a TW5 on it. 
>
> <:-)
>
> P.S the coming version of TW5 will feature 
>  a saver to 
> Github. I have not yet dabbled with it but I hope it will be as simple to 
> use as TiddlySpot.
>
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Another datapoint on extremely large TiddlyWikis

Hi Mark

> Is the indexing something that happens automatically, or something that you 
> activate?

The improved indexing doesn’t need activating, it should be entirely invisible.

It is worth knowing what gets optimised though:

* [all[tiddlers]tag[x]...
* [all[shadows]tag[x]...
* [all[tiddlers+shadows]tag[x]...
* [all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[x]...
* [all[tiddlers]field:y[x]...
* [all[shadows]field:y[x]...
* [all[tiddlers+shadows]field:y[x]...
* [all[shadows+tiddlers]field:y[x]...

The field indexer currently defaults to indexing field values of less than 128 
characters; longer values can still be searched for, but no index will be 
constructed.

Note that the “field” operator is also used when the operator name is a 
fieldname, so, for example,  [all[shadows+tiddlers]caption[x]… is optimised.

Best wishes

Jeremy


> Thanks!
> 
> On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 5:55:37 AM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
> Thanks for sharing Jeremy.
> It great to hear the possibilities.
> 
> Can you tell the community single file or server, locally or remotely etc...? 
> Just to flesh it out a little.
> 
> I tested the prerelease and the indexing made things possible that were not 
> before.
> 
> Thanks so much for your ongoing innovation.
> 
> Tony
> 
> 
> 
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[tw5] Re: TW online, for free - the simplest way

Thanks. It's been around for maybe 2 years. 

Is it linked to from anywhere in docs TiddlySpot is mentioned in?
>

Just posted a PR.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: A new release of Tiddlyshow App

2019-05-31 Thread Mohammad

Hi Josiah,
 It is a BIG pity I am busy these months and have not enough time for the 
lovely Tiddlywiki!
By the way Tiddlyshow can be used for image galleries while I have already 
developed few tools to create galleries like 
*Steps *and *Wizards*. They are included in Shiraz plugin 
https://kookma.github.io/Shiraz/

The NOT GOOD SIDE of Tiddlywiki forum is that, while there is a lot of 
really kind and helpful people in the community, there is NO real and 
long-term collaboration between them so most of us work alone on our codes!
If there was! we had much better plugins, codes, ... here

--Mohammad

On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 4:57:34 PM UTC+4:30, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao Mohammad
>
> Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> I am working on the next release and it uses new features of TW 5.1.19. 
>> Furthermore it has slide manager, theme, ...
>>
>
> Its an elegant tool already. So hearing you continuing to develop it is 
> good news.
>
> One of the things that interests me in TiddlyShow is its potentially good 
> for all types of step by step showing. 
>
> I think it could maybe be just as good for image galleries.
>
> I'll look at the next version and comment regarding that if you want.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>

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[tw5] Re: Another datapoint on extremely large TiddlyWikis

2019-05-31 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

Is the indexing something that happens automatically, or something that you 
activate?
Thanks!

On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 5:55:37 AM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Thanks for sharing Jeremy.
>
> It great to hear the possibilities.
>
> Can you tell the community single file or server, locally or remotely 
> etc...? Just to flesh it out a little.
>
> I tested the prerelease and the indexing made things possible that were 
> not before.
>
> Thanks so much for your ongoing innovation.
>
> Tony
>
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[tw5] Re: Another datapoint on extremely large TiddlyWikis

2019-05-31 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

What are the physical characteristics of the machine that ran your tests? 
RAM? Ghz? Make? Type of HD?

Thanks!


On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 3:50:24 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Several of the projects I’m working on for Federatial clients involve 
> large wikis, in the 10MB to 100MB range. I’ve posted before about the 
> surprisingly good performance of such large wikis, and recently worked on 
> improving performance further through the introduction of more 
> sophisticated indexing strategies. 
>
> As an experiment, today I just tried combining the data from several large 
> wikis to make a compound wiki that weighs in at 874.9MB (nearly a 
> gigabyte!). To my astonishment, Chrome and Firefox will both run it with 
> reasonable performance (Safari complains about resource usage). 
>
> The wiki actually only contains 60 tiddlers, of which 13 are plugins 
> containing a total of 64,202 shadow tiddlers (this project uses plugins to 
> package wiki content). There are just over 3,000 images, weighing in at 
> about 197MB of base64 encoded text. 
>
> I don’t think such large wikis are practical for everyday use right now, 
> but they certainly will be in the next few years. (None of this is actually 
> to praise TiddlyWiki; it’s the hardworking browser engineers over the last 
> decade that we have to thank). 
>
> Best wishes 
>
> Jeremy.

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Re: [tw5] Another datapoint on extremely large TiddlyWikis

Hi Tony

> Can you tell the community single file or server, locally or remotely etc...? 
> Just to flesh it out a little.

I ran the wiki under Node.js to generate an index.html file that I then ran 
standalone in the browser.

> I tested the prerelease and the indexing made things possible that were not 
> before.

That’s great to hear,

> Thanks so much for your ongoing innovation.

Much appreciated, thank you!

Best wishes

Jeremy

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[tw5] Another datapoint on extremely large TiddlyWikis

2019-05-31 Thread TonyM

Thanks for sharing Jeremy.

It great to hear the possibilities.

Can you tell the community single file or server, locally or remotely etc...? 
Just to flesh it out a little.

I tested the prerelease and the indexing made things possible that were not 
before.

Thanks so much for your ongoing innovation.

Tony

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[tw5] Re: Another datapoint on extremely large TiddlyWikis

2019-05-31 Thread bimlas

I just tried to import 150MB of image. Previously, I thought it would take 
at least 20 minutes to load the wiki, but it was loaded surprisingly 
quickly. O_O Though I don't think it's a good idea to create such a wiki, 
and to keep the files physically there too, but it's good to know that 
TiddlyWiki is extraordinary from this perspective as well. :)

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[tw5] Re: A new release of Tiddlyshow App

Ciao Mohammad

Mohammad wrote:
>
> I am working on the next release and it uses new features of TW 5.1.19. 
> Furthermore it has slide manager, theme, ...
>

Its an elegant tool already. So hearing you continuing to develop it is 
good news.

One of the things that interests me in TiddlyShow is its potentially good 
for all types of step by step showing. 

I think it could maybe be just as good for image galleries.

I'll look at the next version and comment regarding that if you want.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: Another datapoint on extremely large TiddlyWikis

Jeremy, thanks ... Useful test ...

 There are just over 3,000 images, weighing in at about 197MB of base64 
> encoded text. 


FYI, that is particularly interesting to me. Being able to keep images in a 
wiki, rather than external, has good upsides on maintenance and ease of 
portability. I'm gonna test on one project.

Best wishes
Josiah

On Friday, 31 May 2019 12:50:24 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Several of the projects I’m working on for Federatial clients involve 
> large wikis, in the 10MB to 100MB range. I’ve posted before about the 
> surprisingly good performance of such large wikis, and recently worked on 
> improving performance further through the introduction of more 
> sophisticated indexing strategies. 
>
> As an experiment, today I just tried combining the data from several large 
> wikis to make a compound wiki that weighs in at 874.9MB (nearly a 
> gigabyte!). To my astonishment, Chrome and Firefox will both run it with 
> reasonable performance (Safari complains about resource usage). 
>
> The wiki actually only contains 60 tiddlers, of which 13 are plugins 
> containing a total of 64,202 shadow tiddlers (this project uses plugins to 
> package wiki content). There are just over 3,000 images, weighing in at 
> about 197MB of base64 encoded text. 
>
> I don’t think such large wikis are practical for everyday use right now, 
> but they certainly will be in the next few years. (None of this is actually 
> to praise TiddlyWiki; it’s the hardworking browser engineers over the last 
> decade that we have to thank). 
>
> Best wishes 
>
> Jeremy.

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[tw5] Re: TW online, for free - the simplest way

Mat

Very good!

I never knew it existed! 

Is it linked to from anywhere in docs TiddlySpot is mentioned in?

Procedural docs on using "portals" are especially valuable IMO.

Best wishes
Josiah

On Friday, 31 May 2019 11:02:24 UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>
> Just a note to say I've updated 
>
> tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com
>
> to TW5 version 5.1.19.
>
> It takes one minute to set up a new wiki.
>
> Note:
> This site is only a "skin" on top of the actual TiddlySpot setup page.
> You must use a Chrome browser for setting up a TW5 on TiddlySpot. Once set 
> up, use any browser to visit or edit it.
>
> For anyone who doesn't know, TiddlySpot free tiddly-service by cousins 
> Daniel and Simon Baird and it has been a pillar for a decade. I use it for 
> all of my public stuff and some of my private stuff and I do all my tiddly 
> experiments there. The real TiddlySpot site is http://tiddlyspot.com/  
> but this site doesn't offer any simple way to set up a TW *version 5*, so 
> I made the above "skin" to help you to quickly set up a TW5 on it. 
>
> <:-)
>
> P.S the coming version of TW5 will feature 
>  a saver to 
> Github. I have not yet dabbled with it but I hope it will be as simple to 
> use as TiddlySpot.
>
>
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[tw5] Another datapoint on extremely large TiddlyWikis

Several of the projects I’m working on for Federatial clients involve large
wikis, in the 10MB to 100MB range. I’ve posted before about the surprisingly
good performance of such large wikis, and recently worked on improving
performance further through the introduction of more sophisticated indexing
strategies.

As an experiment, today I just tried combining the data from several large
wikis to make a compound wiki that weighs in at 874.9MB (nearly a gigabyte!).
To my astonishment, Chrome and Firefox will both run it with reasonable
performance (Safari complains about resource usage).

The wiki actually only contains 60 tiddlers, of which 13 are plugins containing
a total of 64,202 shadow tiddlers (this project uses plugins to package wiki
content). There are just over 3,000 images, weighing in at about 197MB of
base64 encoded text.

I don’t think such large wikis are practical for everyday use right now, but
they certainly will be in the next few years. (None of this is actually to
praise TiddlyWiki; it’s the hardworking browser engineers over the last decade
that we have to thank).

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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[tw5] Re: Internal Javacript Error in ckeditor.js

2019-05-31 Thread BJ

HI Armlet,

if you could described in as much detail as possible the steps from 
starting to edit the tiddler to when the error occurs, it would help me to 
workout what is going wrong. What version of ckeditor are you using (and 
with what browser)?

thanks

BJ

On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 8:31:24 PM UTC+2, armlet wrote:
>
> Internal JavaScript Error
> Well, this is embarrassing. It is recommended that you restart TiddlyWiki 
> by refreshing your browser
> Script error.
>
>
>
> ckeditor.js:88 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'compatMode' of 
> undefined
> at CKEDITOR.dom.window.getViewPaneSize (ckeditor.js:88)
> at p.queryViewport (ckeditor.js:1253)
> at CKEDITOR.dom.window. (ckeditor.js:31)
> at CKEDITOR.dom.window.p (ckeditor.js:10)
> at CKEDITOR.dom.window.fire (ckeditor.js:12)
> at ckeditor.js:68
>
> Is this a ckeditor problem or bj's plugin problem?
>

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[tw5] Re: Requesting help with felixhayashi's plugin TopStory View - Not sure how to request help anyway

Daerokos,

as noted in Tonys answer, it is good to provide a link to what it is one is
asking about - in this case TopStoryView
.

If you're using zoomin, which only shows one tiddler at a time, why would
you need TopStoryView?

For the record, TopStoryView was a solution to a problem which is now
mostly solved, namely that in native TW if the tiddler was below the
viewport, the scrolling only rolled so far as to align the bottom edge of
the tiddler with the viewport bottom. The desired tiddler ended up in
different places on the screen. With TopStoryView, but now also with native
TW, the tiddler aligns with viewport top (as it should be). If I recall,
the only remaining discrepancy is that TopStoryView also makes the rivers
very *lowermost* tiddler align with the top whereas native TW still aligns
that tiddlers bottom ege with the bottom of viewport edge. When that
tiddler is short you thus see other tiddlers above it.

If you still need an answer to your question, I would not expect anyone but
Felix to speak on it with authority.

<:-)

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Re: [tw5] Re: Kindly help to start

2019-05-31 Thread Stefan Pfister

For me under Linux. The easiest way for a stable saving TW is still
tiddly-desktop. Using this tool might be easier rhen the other stuff. Just
my two cents.

Handoko Suwono  schrieb am Mo., 27. Mai 2019, 01:24:

> Forgot to put the link, it is http://datacom.co.id/tiddly_tutor.html
>
> You may connect me directly to my email.
>
> handoko -
>
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2019 at 6:19:25 AM UTC+7, Handoko Suwono wrote:
>>
>> Hi Norbert,
>>
>> I believe we met.
>>
>> Please check your firefox version because later version do not support
>> tiddlyfox plugin. The plugin is used for saving your Tiddlywiki.
>>
>> After downloading empty.html - you can rename it and open with any
>> browser, not only with firefox. Try chrome for instance. Once it pops up,
>> find the "+" sign to start with a new tiddler.
>>
>> I made a tutorial while in Cambodia a long time ago using the classic TW.
>> Hope it still can be looked upon since most are relevant. Let me know if
>> you still have problems.
>>
>> handoko -
>> Surabaya, Indonesia
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, May 26, 2019 at 10:30:53 AM UTC+7, Norbert Klein wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> My name is Norbert KLEIN, I am living in Cambodia, and having weak
>>> Internet
>>> connection. I am 85 years old (but still somewhat alive ;-)
>>>
>>> Using Ubuntu 18.04.1 (and always Linux since several years).
>>>
>>> I read about TiddlyWiki, subscribed to the GoogleGroup - but I still
>>> cannot get started.
>>>
>>> I follow what I understand is the instruction, to start an empty TW
>>> file, and I set Firefox as the program to store files - but my computer
>>> stops there.
>>>
>>>
>>> I would very much appreciate if there would be somebody on the list to
>>> provide me one-to-one guidance to help me get started.
>>>
>>> Thank you very much.
>>>
>>>
>>> Norbert KLEIN
>>>
>>> nhk...@gmx.net
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[tw5] TW online, for free - the simplest way