[tw5] Re: N00b here

[TonyM]

Autum,

Are there any forums/groups/etc that would be open to occasional 
> super-basic n00b support?


*Yes this forum is for you, more than occasional - do your best to test us*
. 

   - Where possible try and keep the questions simple (for your own 
   benefit) , 
   - Be careful to describe what you want to do, before you start 
   suggesting how to fix it, or why you think it is not working or how you 
   tried to fix it.
   - Provide example code and if possible such that it works on 
   tiddlywiki.com so we can all try it in the same wiki.

Regards
Tony



On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 12:40:40 PM UTC+10, Autumn Gray Eakin wrote:
>
> I was introduced to TiddlyWiki by a professor during my informatics 
> undergrad studies about 10 years ago, and am so rusty with anything script 
> or code like due to lack of practice and a TBI shortly after that time. 
>
> I’m pretty smart and learn well from man/docs but I am struggling with the 
> dearth of “dummy” level walk throughs I can find. There’s a series on 
> YouTube that is REALLY helpful but I am having a super tough time 
> troubleshooting errors that I am getting. 
>
> Are there any forums/groups/etc that would be open to occasional 
> super-basic n00b support? 
>
> Also I’m having a tough time trying to figure out how to use a single 
> personal  TW via my OneDrive or SharePoint spaces between my multiple 
> devices (OSX, iOS, W10, possibly also xNix soonish as well).
>
> Anyway, I totally understand that folx may not have the energy for a 
> modest amount of handholding (I get what that’s like!) so any response of 
> any kind is deeply appreciated!
>
> Thanks for reading.
> JamieAutumn 
>
> On Aug 12, 2019, 19:26 -0700, tiddl...@googlegroups.com , 
> wrote:
>
> tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com 
> 
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>- Internal JS error after updating to 5.1.20 
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>- Generating a complete TiddlyWiki from Excel 
><#34e76b05-9af9-4466-a0d9-d8aeda728271@Spark_group_thread_1> - 1 Update 
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><#34e76b05-9af9-4466-a0d9-d8aeda728271@Spark_group_thread_3> - 1 Update 
>- Upgrade Issue 
><#34e76b05-9af9-4466-a0d9-d8aeda728271@Spark_group_thread_4> - 1 Update 
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><#34e76b05-9af9-4466-a0d9-d8aeda728271@Spark_group_thread_5> - 1 Update 
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>
> Internal JS error after updating to 5.1.20 
> 
> TonyM >: Aug 12 06:43PM -0700
>
> Have you seen recent threads?
>  
> Also review your source wiki to see if there are overwritten shadow
> tiddlers. Speculation: Give the reference to language did you add or remove
> a language? Perhaps do that again after the upgrade.
>  
> Regards
> Tony
>  
> On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 8:14:11 PM UTC+10, Hubert wrote:
> Back to top <#34e76b05-9af9-4466-a0d9-d8aeda728271@Spark_digest_top>
> Generating a complete TiddlyWiki from Excel 
> 
> TonyM >: Aug 12 06:38PM -0700
>
> Paul,
>  
> Depending on the structure of the data in your excel it may be as simple as
> generating a csv file and importing that.
>  
> Personally I would use TiddlyWiki as the interactive database and generate
> the documents as needed.
>  
> I am working on a project right now to generate multiple documents, for
> multiple audiences, spreadsheets and PDF documents, from a fairly complex
> set of data in tiddlywiki. PDF's can be converted to Word and with
> spreadsheets, that some clients demand, I have a template in which I paste
> the CSV format output my application generates, then use text to columns.
> We used to have multiple documents and they all needed visiting, if one
> small thing changed, now the data is stored in a single file based
> tiddlywiki hosted on an O365 SharePoint instance.
>  
> SharePoint provides the check in and Out functionality to allow serial
> editing of the single file wiki.
>  
> Unlike excel Tiddlywiki provides an easy to design interactive environment
> with plenty of User interface control. Ultimately I intend to provide a
> "website" generation (tiddlywiki) with only the data for the different
> clients, so they can visit and get the 

[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

[TonyM]

Thanks Mat and Mohammad

I used this thanks to your tips
{{{ [all[current]get[tiddler-mode]else{$:/config/wiki-mode}] }}}

Does this mean that triple braces text references can derive the 
currentTiddler ?

The broken case being
{{{ [{!!tiddler-mode}else{$:/config/wiki-mode}] }}}

*Do you think this is a bug?*

Regards
Tony


On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 2:57:28 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Tony
>
> This works for me
> {{{ [{!!tiddler-mode}match[test]then{$:/SiteTitle}else{$:/SiteSubtitle}] 
> }}}
>
>
> Furthermore semantically I like to have if then else.
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 9:05:26 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> The following is not working
>> {{{ [{!!tiddler-mode}else{$:/config/wiki-mode}] }}}
>> and not returning the content of $:/config/wiki-mode when the field on 
>> the current tiddler is empty?
>>
>> Am I correct thinking this because else can only return a string in the 
>> parameter?
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>> On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 12:57:44 AM UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
>>> I’m delighted to announce the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20:
>>>
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>>>
>>> This release is massive. Some of the many highlights:
>>>
>>> * New conditional filter operators “then” and “else”
>>> * New mathematics and string filter operators
>>> * Improved handling of duplicates in filters
>>> * Improved keyboard shortcuts
>>> * New saver for saving the single file version direct to GitHub or GitLab
>>> * New BrowserStorage plugin for saving tiddlers in browser local storage
>>> * New InnerWiki plugin for rendering TiddlyWiki screenshots
>>> * New and improved translations for Catalan, Chinese Simplified and 
>>> Chinese Traditional, French, German, US English
>>> * Several new performance optimisations
>>> * New palettes and a new palette manager for more easily editing them
>>> * New and fixed animations for several system actions
>>> * Improved handling of JSON files
>>> * New mechanism to add plugins to a wiki from the command line
>>> * New “savewikifolder” and “deletetiddlers" commands for Node.js
>>> * Many bug fixes
>>>
>>> You can upgrade your existing single file wikis at: 
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>>>
>>> As usual, please exercise caution when working with an upgrade, and take 
>>> care to take plenty of backups. Comments and questions welcome.
>>>
>>> It only remains to offer my sincere thanks to the many people who gave 
>>> up their time and talents to contribute to this release.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

[Mohammad]

Tony

This work for me
{{{ [{!!tiddler-mode}match[test]then{$:/SiteTitle}else{$:/SiteSubtitle}] }}}


Furthermore semantically I like to have if then else.

--Mohammad

On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 9:05:26 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> The following is not working
> {{{ [{!!tiddler-mode}else{$:/config/wiki-mode}] }}}
> and not returning the content of $:/config/wiki-mode when the field on 
> the current tiddler is empty?
>
> Am I correct thinking this because else can only return a string in the 
> parameter?
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 12:57:44 AM UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> I’m delighted to announce the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20:
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>>
>> This release is massive. Some of the many highlights:
>>
>> * New conditional filter operators “then” and “else”
>> * New mathematics and string filter operators
>> * Improved handling of duplicates in filters
>> * Improved keyboard shortcuts
>> * New saver for saving the single file version direct to GitHub or GitLab
>> * New BrowserStorage plugin for saving tiddlers in browser local storage
>> * New InnerWiki plugin for rendering TiddlyWiki screenshots
>> * New and improved translations for Catalan, Chinese Simplified and 
>> Chinese Traditional, French, German, US English
>> * Several new performance optimisations
>> * New palettes and a new palette manager for more easily editing them
>> * New and fixed animations for several system actions
>> * Improved handling of JSON files
>> * New mechanism to add plugins to a wiki from the command line
>> * New “savewikifolder” and “deletetiddlers" commands for Node.js
>> * Many bug fixes
>>
>> You can upgrade your existing single file wikis at: 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>>
>> As usual, please exercise caution when working with an upgrade, and take 
>> care to take plenty of backups. Comments and questions welcome.
>>
>> It only remains to offer my sincere thanks to the many people who gave up 
>> their time and talents to contribute to this release.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

[Mat]

TonyM wrote:
>
> {{{ [{!!tiddler-mode}else{$:/config/wiki-mode}] }}}
>
 
This seems to work which indicates it has to do with the input to "else" 
rather than what "else" can return

{{{ [get[tiddler-mode]else{$:/config/wiki-mode}] }}}

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

[TonyM]

Folks,

The following is not working
{{{ [{!!tiddler-mode}else{$:/config/wiki-mode}] }}}
and not returning the content of $:/config/wiki-mode when the field on the 
current tiddler is empty?

Am I correct thinking this because else can only return a string in the 
parameter?

Regards
Tony

On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 12:57:44 AM UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’m delighted to announce the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>
> This release is massive. Some of the many highlights:
>
> * New conditional filter operators “then” and “else”
> * New mathematics and string filter operators
> * Improved handling of duplicates in filters
> * Improved keyboard shortcuts
> * New saver for saving the single file version direct to GitHub or GitLab
> * New BrowserStorage plugin for saving tiddlers in browser local storage
> * New InnerWiki plugin for rendering TiddlyWiki screenshots
> * New and improved translations for Catalan, Chinese Simplified and 
> Chinese Traditional, French, German, US English
> * Several new performance optimisations
> * New palettes and a new palette manager for more easily editing them
> * New and fixed animations for several system actions
> * Improved handling of JSON files
> * New mechanism to add plugins to a wiki from the command line
> * New “savewikifolder” and “deletetiddlers" commands for Node.js
> * Many bug fixes
>
> You can upgrade your existing single file wikis at: 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>
> As usual, please exercise caution when working with an upgrade, and take 
> care to take plenty of backups. Comments and questions welcome.
>
> It only remains to offer my sincere thanks to the many people who gave up 
> their time and talents to contribute to this release.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>

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[tw5] Re: Internal JS error after updating to 5.1.20

[A Gloom]

that does look like the language setting and you said you doubled checked 
it...

quick troubleshooting trick you can try--

go to your previous version wiki, remove all tiddler titless from the 
default tiddlers list in Control Panel>Info, to prevent any tiddlers from 
opening with the loading of your wiki after upgrading, then upgrade

that will rule out the startup tiddlers if you have any being the issue

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[tw5] TEA Tiddler: for troubled tiddlers (emergency utility)

[A Gloom]

TEA (Tiddler Emergency Action) tiddler

Here at the mad coding labatory, tiddler experiments often go wrong, 
terribly wrong ><

This tiddler can help with troublesome tiddlers that you cannot directly 
access normally or cannot open or have displayed in the story river due to 
interference with the proper operation of your wiki (some of the various 
reasons).  It allows for remote manipulation of the tiddler from this 
utility tiddler in 3 ways:

1) neutralize a tiddler-- disable a tiddler's coding, in-tiddler styling, 
wikitext/macros/widgets
2) open a tiddler in edit mode (yes we have disabled normal edit 
intitiation a few times)
3) delete a tiddler

The utility has confirmation mechanisms to help you make sure you're 
dealing with the desired tiddler-- use with caution-- possibly import into 
a test wiki first to get acquanted with the utility.

The attached json file has the utility tiddler (#FIREAX tiddler (delete, 
edit tiddlers)) and 3 templates ($:/.fireax/whatis91 template, 
$:/.fireax/whatis92 template, $:/.fireax/whatis93 template) used for the 
text entry fields.  Once used it will created 3 temp tiddlers 
($:/temp/whatis91, $:/temp/whatis92, $:/temp/whatis93)

** you will find those templates in the "More" tab, explorer in a directory 
called fireax which I believe is unique enough to avoid matching what 
someone may already have

I know I really need to learn the plugin creation process but you would 
understand-- I'm running out of time to finish my project and learning the 
coding to effect it is taking most of my time and it takes so long to do 
anything on the computer any more : (

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TEAtiddlers.json
Description: application/json

[tw5] N00b here

['Autumn Gray Eakin' via TiddlyWiki]

I was introduced to TiddlyWiki by a professor during my informatics undergrad 
studies about 10 years ago, and am so rusty with anything script or code like 
due to lack of practice and a TBI shortly after that time.

I’m pretty smart and learn well from man/docs but I am struggling with the 
dearth of “dummy” level walk throughs I can find. There’s a series on YouTube 
that is REALLY helpful but I am having a super tough time troubleshooting 
errors that I am getting.

Are there any forums/groups/etc that would be open to occasional super-basic 
n00b support?

Also I’m having a tough time trying to figure out how to use a single personal  
TW via my OneDrive or SharePoint spaces between my multiple devices (OSX, iOS, 
W10, possibly also xNix soonish as well).

Anyway, I totally understand that folx may not have the energy for a modest 
amount of handholding (I get what that’s like!) so any response of any kind is 
deeply appreciated!

Thanks for reading.
JamieAutumn

On Aug 12, 2019, 19:26 -0700, tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com, wrote:
> tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com Google Groups
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> View all topics
>
> • Internal JS error after updating to 5.1.20 - 1 Update
> • Generating a complete TiddlyWiki from Excel - 1 Update
> • Competition for v5.1.21 artwork - 1 Update
> • Populate Select drop-down from folder structure - 1 Update
> • Upgrade Issue - 1 Update
> • Json Tools for TiddlyWiki v5.1.20! - 1 Update
> • TW5 Advice on upgrading to new 5.1.20 - 1 Update
>
> Internal JS error after updating to 5.1.20
> TonyM : Aug 12 06:43PM -0700
>
> Have you seen recent threads?
>
> Also review your source wiki to see if there are overwritten shadow
> tiddlers. Speculation: Give the reference to language did you add or remove
> a language? Perhaps do that again after the upgrade.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 8:14:11 PM UTC+10, Hubert wrote:
> Back to top
> Generating a complete TiddlyWiki from Excel
> TonyM : Aug 12 06:38PM -0700
>
> Paul,
>
> Depending on the structure of the data in your excel it may be as simple as
> generating a csv file and importing that.
>
> Personally I would use TiddlyWiki as the interactive database and generate
> the documents as needed.
>
> I am working on a project right now to generate multiple documents, for
> multiple audiences, spreadsheets and PDF documents, from a fairly complex
> set of data in tiddlywiki. PDF's can be converted to Word and with
> spreadsheets, that some clients demand, I have a template in which I paste
> the CSV format output my application generates, then use text to columns.
> We used to have multiple documents and they all needed visiting, if one
> small thing changed, now the data is stored in a single file based
> tiddlywiki hosted on an O365 SharePoint instance.
>
> SharePoint provides the check in and Out functionality to allow serial
> editing of the single file wiki.
>
> Unlike excel Tiddlywiki provides an easy to design interactive environment
> with plenty of User interface control. Ultimately I intend to provide a
> "website" generation (tiddlywiki) with only the data for the different
> clients, so they can visit and get the latest, with search and filters,
> stopping the need for distribution, bypassing documents altogether with a
> user option to print a PDF.
>
> For more sophisticated maths evans formulaue plugin is great but I can
> avoid this with the new operators.
> There are also editable table plugins and more that could help you.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 10:53:49 PM UTC+10, Paul Richardson wrote:
> Back to top
> Competition for v5.1.21 artwork
> A Gloom : Aug 12 06:31PM -0700
>
> >> 5.1.21 most likely be a bug fix for 5.1.20?
>
> well 5.1.20's banner may have to be redone in this manner >> <<
>
> [image: typodemons.jpg]
>
>
> << is no help >.<
> Back to top
> Populate Select drop-down from folder structure
> MagoArcade : Aug 12 04:29PM -0700
>
> Thanks for your replies, all. Especially to Felix as that looks ideal -
> just need to find some time to have a tinker.
>
> btw, Felix - it was your TiddlyMap plugin and Gould's Dropboard plugin that
> inspired me to get coding in tw! I'm trying to pull it all together to make
> a project management application - so thanks for such a great plugin!
> Back to top
> Upgrade Issue
> coda coder : Aug 12 02:27PM -0700
>
> On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 5:17:02 PM UTC-5, mervin mecklenburg wrote:
> > But instead of providing a list of tiddlers, it returns the tittle of the
> > entire Tiddlywiki file. So, the mechanism appears to handle the entire
> > tiddlywiki as a single tiddler, and the upgrade fails.
>
> It's a bug I noticed a while back. Does it look like this?
>
>
> In my case, as you cane see, my file does not have an extension. If I add
> the *.html* extension, it works fine.
> Back to top
> Json Tools for TiddlyWiki v5.1.20!
> Joshua Fontany : Aug 12 12:58PM -0700
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> I am really excited to announce that I have my proof of 

[tw5] Re: Internal JS error after updating to 5.1.20

[TonyM]

Have you seen recent threads?

Also review your source wiki to see if there are overwritten shadow 
tiddlers. Speculation: Give the reference to language did you add or remove 
a language? Perhaps do that again after the upgrade.

Regards
Tony

On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 8:14:11 PM UTC+10, Hubert wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Thanks for the update! Unfortunately, I get the following error when 
> opening the upgraded TW file:
>
> [image: error.png]
>
>
> What I've tried so far:
>
>
>
>- I've disabled all plugins
>- I've removed password protection (encryption)
>- I've checked my language in Settings (it's set to UK English)
>
> Unfortunately, the issue persists and there's little else I could think 
> of. Would anyone have any ideas about what could have gone wrong and how I 
> could fix that?
>
> Thank you in advance!
>
> Best regards,
> Hubert
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Generating a complete TiddlyWiki from Excel

[TonyM]

Paul,

Depending on the structure of the data in your excel it may be as simple as 
generating a csv file and importing that.

Personally I would use TiddlyWiki as the interactive database and generate 
the documents as needed.

I am working on a project right now to generate multiple documents, for 
multiple audiences, spreadsheets and PDF documents, from a fairly complex 
set of data in tiddlywiki. PDF's can be converted to Word and with 
spreadsheets, that some clients demand, I have a template in which I paste 
the CSV format output my application generates, then use text to columns. 
We used to have multiple documents and they all needed visiting, if one 
small thing changed, now the data is stored in a single file based 
tiddlywiki hosted on an O365 SharePoint instance.

SharePoint provides the check in and Out functionality to allow serial 
editing of the single file wiki.

Unlike excel Tiddlywiki provides an easy to design interactive environment 
with plenty of User interface control. Ultimately I intend to provide a 
"website" generation (tiddlywiki) with only the data for the different 
clients, so they can visit and get the latest, with search and filters, 
stopping the need for distribution, bypassing documents altogether with a 
user option to print a PDF.

For more sophisticated maths evans formulaue plugin is great but I can 
avoid this with the new operators.
There are also editable table plugins and more that could help you. 

Regards
Tony

On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 10:53:49 PM UTC+10, Paul Richardson wrote:
>
> Good afternoon, complete beginner here.
>
> I maintain a reference document for my organisation which has some 
> pre-amble and then is essentially a large table. The user looks through the 
> table for their particular area of interest and then is given a particular 
> category/label for their information. The document is also shared with 
> partner organisations and suppliers and needs to be presented in a portable 
> format - and it cannot be shared on the internet or in a collaborative 
> manner. The document has three levels e.g. section 1, section 1.1, section 
> 1.1.1 (although in some places 1.1.1.1).
>
> [image: Untitled.png]
>
> As the document is quite wordy (with footnotes) it is currently maintained 
> in Word, but I would like to move away from this, and have been playing 
> with TiddlyWiki. As I still need to provide the Word version, what I would 
> quite like to do is have a master database (probably in Excel) which then 
> auto-populates the Word document *and* the TiddlyWiki version. 
>
> I am familiar with the principles of markup laguage and I have managed to 
> get as far as getting Excel to generate the code for the table rows, and 
> have successfully pasted these into a tiddler manually. 
>
> |4.1|Wordy description of situation A| class4 
> | class4 | class2 
> |
> |4.11|Wordy description of situation B| class3 div> | class3 | class1 |
>
>
> [image: Capture.JPG]
>
> However I then wanted to get Excel to generate the code for the whole 
> tiddler itself, (the ), but when I paste 
> the complete tiddler ( header and the content and the  closing) 
> into the HTML directly (just after the tiddlers I created in tiddlywiki), 
> this doesn't seem to work. It looks identical in format to other tiddlers I 
> have added in the usual manner, so there must be other parts of the HTML I 
> need to edit.. (I can see my tiddlers both in the "static" area and in one 
> other place and have added equivalent entries in both).
>
>  title="Description">
> |4.1|Wordy description of situation A| class4
>  | class4 | 
> class2 |
> |4.11|Wordy description of situation B| class3
>  | class3 | 
> class1 |
> 
>
> I know the HTML isn't intended to be directly edited but what can I say!
>
> So my immediate question is, which parts of the HTML file do I need to 
> insert code into in order to add a working tiddler? 
> My other question is - is my objective even possible or will there be too 
> many other unseen hurdles and complications along the way? 
>
> (I suppose the alternative approach is to maintain the master version in 
> TiddlyWiki and then find a way of exporting the whole document to Word, but 
> it needs to be clean and professional).
>
> Thank you!
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Competition for v5.1.21 artwork

[A Gloom]

>> 5.1.21 most likely be a bug fix for 5.1.20?

well 5.1.20's banner may have to be redone in this manner >> <<

[image: typodemons.jpg]


<< is no help >.<

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Re: [tw5] Populate Select drop-down from folder structure

[MagoArcade]

Thanks for your replies, all. Especially to Felix as that looks ideal - 
just need to find some time to have a tinker. 

btw, Felix - it was your TiddlyMap plugin and Gould's Dropboard plugin that 
inspired me to get coding in tw! I'm trying to pull it all together to make 
a project management application - so thanks for such a great plugin!

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[tw5] Re: Upgrade Issue

[coda coder]

On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 5:17:02 PM UTC-5, mervin mecklenburg wrote:
>
>
> Here is what happens when I attempt to upgrade.  I download the upgrade 
> mechanism from https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html and pull in the wiki, 
> as is required.  The mechanism appears to process the wiki, as it should, 
> But instead of providing a list of tiddlers, it returns the tittle of the 
> entire Tiddlywiki file.  So, the mechanism appears to handle the entire 
> tiddlywiki as a single tiddler, and the upgrade fails.
>

It's a bug I noticed a while back. Does it look like this?


In my case, as you cane see, my file does not have an extension. If I add 
the *.html* extension, it works fine.

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Advice on upgrading to new 5.1.20

[Jon]

Mark, you were quite right I *did* modify an existing core module (now I 
know what that is!)

Encouraged by others here locating their own problems, I had another look 
and in my case it was $:/core/modules/widgets/navigator.js 1.

I only noticed it because of the "1". I can't remember what prompted me to 
do this but thanks for the pointer and now glad to be fully upgraded.

Regards
Jon

On Friday, 9 August 2019 17:57:58 UTC+1, Jon wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> received the following message:
>
>  import - 17:51:47 9 8 2019 (count: 1096)
>> You are about to import a tiddler that will overwrite a core module 
>> tiddler. This is not recommended as it may make the system unstable
>
>
> Can't imagine what this would be but there doesn't appear to be an option 
> to identify the offending tiddler from the list so as not to import it.
>
>
> Regards
> Jon
>

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[tw5] Re: Get Tiddlers with Created Date of Current Month and Day

[Mohammad]

Added to TW-Scripts.

On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 6:21:17 PM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
>
> This is fantastic, thank you @BurningTreeC.
>>
>> A question, when I added it, it didn't give the links to the actual 
>> tiddlers, just the names. At first it had system tiddlers which had live 
>> links, but I was able to filter those out, but the regular Tiddlers links 
>> are not live. I tried to use list-links, but that replicated the results a 
>> ridiculous amount of times and also didn't have the live links. Any 
>> suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks again!
>>
>> On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 6:27:37 AM UTC-4, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,

 Basically I am trying to have something I can look at to see tiddlers 
 from previous years that have the same month and day as today. For 
 example, 
 I could look and see all Tiddlers created on 11 August, from 2018, 2017, 
 etc. 

 I've been trying to get it to work, but I'm not having any luck.

 Any suggestions?

>>>
>>> Hi Josh, this might work:
>>>
>>> <$set name="todayMonthDay" value=<>>
>>> <$list filter="[all[tiddlers]]" variable="tiddler">
>>> <$set name="monthDay" value={{{ 
>>> [get[created]split[]last[13]first[4]join[]] 
>>> }}}>
>>> <$list filter="[match]">
>>>
>>> <>
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
> Here you go with the same but with tiddler-links:
>
>
> <$set name="todayMonthDay" value=<>>
> <$list filter="[all[tiddlers]]" variable="tiddler">
> <$set name="monthDay" value={{{ 
> [get[created]split[]last[13]first[4]join[]] 
> }}}>
> <$list filter="[match]">
>
> <$link to=<>><>
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
>
>
>
>>>
 Cheers,
 Josh

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Get Tiddlers with Created Date of Current Month and Day

[Mohammad]

Great point!
The documentation is not clear that, this has been added in 5.1.20!
but it explains as below

The content of the link widget is rendered within the  tag representing 
the link. If the content is empty then the title of the target tiddler is 
rendered as the default.

For example, <$link to="HelloThere"/> is equivalent to <$link 
to="HelloThere">HelloThere and <$link/> is equivalent to <$link 
to=<>><$view field="title"/>.


--Mohammad

On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 10:02:20 PM UTC+4:30, Mat wrote:
>
> <$link to=<>><>
>
>
> with 5.1.20 we can now do 
>
> <$link to=<> />
>  
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki node command line issue importing and/or rendering for offline

[Cade Roux]

For the benefit of anyone coming behind me, I think the issue was that the 
--init initialization of the TiddlyWiki did not have the plugins in the 
tiddlywiki.info file:

"tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb", "tiddlywiki/filesystem"

This seems to help several things in generation now.

Thanks,

Cade

On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 3:19:53 PM UTC-5, Cade Roux wrote:
>
> I am importing a JSON array of 10 Tiddlers with title and text properties 
> only.
>
> After running the command below, I have a tiddlywiki.info file in the 
> folder, an output folder with an empty index.html file and no sign of the 
> tiddlers.
>
> This is what the JSON file looks like:
>
> [
> {
> "title" : "SCHEMA Config"
> ,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
> }
> ,{
> "title" : "SCHEMA DataMart"
> ,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
> }
> ,{
> "title" : "SCHEMA db_securityadmin"
> ,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
> }
> ,{
> "title" : "SCHEMA dbo"
> ,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
> }
> ,{
> "title" : "SCHEMA Doc"
> ,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
> }
> ,{
> "title" : "SCHEMA ETL"
> ,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
> }
> ,{
> "title" : "SCHEMA Logging"
> ,"text" : "Module: LOG\nDescription: Logging schema"
> }
> ,{
> "title" : "AscendDataMart SCHEMA Modeling"
> ,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
> }
> ,{
> "title" : "AscendDataMart SCHEMA Notify"
> ,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
> }
> ,{
> "title" : "AscendDataMart SCHEMA TEST"
> ,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
> }
> ]
>
>
> >tiddlywiki ./DataDictionary --verbose --init empty
> Boot log:
>   Startup task: load-modules
>   Startup task: info after: load-modules before: startup
>   Startup task: startup after: load-modules
>   Startup task: story after: startup
>   Startup task: commands platforms: node after: story
> Executing command: init empty
> Copied edition 'empty' to ./DataDictionary
>
> >tiddlywiki ./DataDictionary --verbose --import tiddlers.json 
> application/json
> Boot log:
>   Startup task: load-modules
>   Startup task: info after: load-modules before: startup
>   Startup task: startup after: load-modules
>   Startup task: story after: startup
>   Startup task: commands platforms: node after: story
> Executing command: import tiddlers.json application/json
> 10 tiddler(s) imported
>
> >tiddlywiki ./DataDictionary --verbose --rendertiddler 
> $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb/save/offline index.html text/plain
> Boot log:
>   Startup task: load-modules
>   Startup task: info after: load-modules before: startup
>   Startup task: startup after: load-modules
>   Startup task: story after: startup
>   Startup task: commands platforms: node after: story
> Executing command: rendertiddler 
> $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb/save/offline index.html text/plain
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Populate Select drop-down from folder structure

[Felix Küppers]

Hi Steve,

all views are stored below this path

https://github.com/felixhayashi/TW5-TiddlyMap/blob/db7e522bf962447589306817491b4b05e6eff93e/src/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/js/lib/environment.js#L30

Moreover, as it was mentioned, they have a common boolean "view marker"

https://github.com/felixhayashi/TW5-TiddlyMap/blob/db7e522bf962447589306817491b4b05e6eff93e/src/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/js/lib/environment.js#L102

If you want to select all views, you can use the  "tmap" macro (a tmap helper 
macro used by TiddlyMap) to return all views or all view labels.

See the TiddlyMap source code e.g. for the sidebar editor:

→ 
https://github.com/felixhayashi/TW5-TiddlyMap/blob/master/src/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/tiddlers/gui/editor/misc.editor_bar.tid

here you can see the use of the "tmap" macro to return all views by label

<$list filter=<> >

you can also get the full tiddler path via

<>

both selectors are stored in this (shadow tiddler) js file

https://github.com/felixhayashi/TW5-TiddlyMap/blob/db7e522bf962447589306817491b4b05e6eff93e/src/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/js/lib/environment.js#L114

Hope this helps.

Felix


On 8/11/19 9:50 PM, MagoArcade wrote:
OK - so here's a tricky one. How can I populate a select field in a tiddler 
from the folder structure available in TiddlyWiki>More>Explorer? I have this 
structure, which is dynamic:


[tiddlymapviews.png]


I want to grab everything under "views/" with no duplication and make it 
selectable via a drop down. So in this instacne, the dropdown would consist of:


Default

Graph Search

Live View

MyView


As a bonus for 50 points, I'd also ideally like to remove "Graph Search" and 
"Live View" from the options.


Any ideas?


Steve


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[tw5] Re: Get Tiddlers with Created Date of Current Month and Day

[Mat]

>
> <$link to=<>><>


with 5.1.20 we can now do 

<$link to=<> />
 
<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Polly (3) -- Downloads as HUB

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 8:47:50 AM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> More research into string splitting needed.
>
>
Just pushed update to core-enabled that splits wiki paths by / and \ .

Getting there

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[tw5] Re: Polly (3) -- Downloads as HUB

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hmm. It worked for a download directory with a relative path, but didn't 
work with a wiki name as a relative path.
*Because* the path is split by the current official separator in order to 
determine the base file name and the base directory path.
Have to decide if we need to split by both separators (covering all bases) 
OR ask users to always use forward
slash "/".

Think ... think ... think ...

More research into string splitting needed.

On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 8:36:29 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>
>  Right. Maybe we should try on 5 IF *"/"* works already on Windows?
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Polly (3) -- Downloads as HUB

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Mark S. wrote:
>
> (Update: Just pushed an update to core-enabled to fix a problem in the 
> variables discussed below.)
>
> If you're running PS Core 6, then there are 3 helpful variables:
>
> $isWindows
> $isMacOS
> $isLinux
>
> To tell you what platform you are on. These variables don't exist in PS 5, 
> so I faked them at the
> top, under the assumption that 5 will only run on Windows.
>
> There is also a platform separator character (long complicated name) which 
> I put into $SEPARATOR and 
> use everywhere in the new version (even though in many cases, but not all, 
> PS can figure out the pathing).
>
> So far there haven't been any separate *.ini settings.
>
> The main thing is that users will need a different settings.ini file for 
> each environment because of the pathing.
>

 Right. Maybe we should try on 5 IF *"/"* works already on Windows?

TT

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[tw5] Re: Polly (3) -- Downloads as HUB

[@TiddlyTweeter]

I think the "\" on Windows 10, at least, is happily also "/" in many 
situations. 
There are global substitutions going on to do with MS wanting to share, I 
think.

If you run "Get-ChildItem Env:" in PS5 you get interesting things like this 
showing up ...

USERPROFILEC:\Users\Josiah  

   
USERPROFILE:DoubleBackslashC:\\Users\\Josiah

   
USERPROFILE:Forwardslash   C:/Users/Josiah  

   
USERPROFILE:java.util.prefs/C:///Users///Josiah  

Mark S. wrote:
>
> Quick comment about pathing. "/" Works better as a universal path 
> separator because "\" works as an escape character in
> many string interpolations. PS seems to be able to use "/" in paths even 
> on Windows, which is pretty handy.
>
> On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 7:52:03 AM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> But it kind of looks like if users use "/" for their pathing, and not 
>> absolute pathing (e.g. "C:/...") then it might 
>> work for both platforms without changes.
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Advice on upgrading to new 5.1.20

[@magasine]

In my experience, after upgrading 5.19 / 5.20, when loading the file, the 
browser returns me the following error warning:

[image: TW Internal Javascript Error.PNG]


Em sexta-feira, 9 de agosto de 2019 13:57:58 UTC-3, Jon escreveu:
>
> Hi,
>
> received the following message:
>
>  import - 17:51:47 9 8 2019 (count: 1096)
>> You are about to import a tiddler that will overwrite a core module 
>> tiddler. This is not recommended as it may make the system unstable
>
>
> Can't imagine what this would be but there doesn't appear to be an option 
> to identify the offending tiddler from the list so as not to import it.
>
>
> Regards
> Jon
>

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[tw5] Re: Polly (3) -- Downloads as HUB

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Quick comment about pathing. "/" Works better as a universal path separator 
because "\" works as an escape character in
many string interpolations. PS seems to be able to use "/" in paths even on 
Windows, which is pretty handy.

On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 7:52:03 AM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>
> But it kind of looks like if users use "/" for their pathing, and not 
> absolute pathing (e.g. "C:/...") then it might 
> work for both platforms without changes.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Polly (3) -- Downloads as HUB

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

This code kind of does that already.

(Update: Just pushed an update to core-enabled to fix a problem in the 
variables discussed below.)

If you're running PS Core 6, then there are 3 helpful variables:

$isWindows
$isMacOS
$isLinux

To tell you what platform you are on. These variables don't exist in PS 5, 
so I faked them at the
top, under the assumption that 5 will only run on Windows.

There is also a platform separator character (long complicated name) which 
I put into $SEPARATOR and 
use everywhere in the new version (even though in many cases, but not all, 
PS can figure out the pathing).

So far there haven't been any separate *.ini settings.

The main thing is that users will need a different settings.ini file for 
each environment because of the pathing.

But it kind of looks like if users use "/" for their pathing, and not 
absolute pathing (e.g. "C:/...") then it might 
work for both platforms without changes.

Thanks!
-- Mark

On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 2:00:12 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> For instance, maybe platform dependent # INTERNAL SETTINGS might be moved 
>> to secondary scripts or *.\lib\win-internal.ini*, 
>> *.\lib\mac-internal.ini *& *.\lib\unix-internal.ini*?
>
>
> My point about this is a wondering if we could enable *ONE system that 
> auto-supports 3 o/s*.
>
> So, for instance, a user who uses both Linux & Windows ONLY downloads ONE 
> set of PSCore scripts that can auto adapt to either run environment?
>
> Too ambitious?
>
> Simply my thoughts on now.
>
> TT
>

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[tw5] Re: Page media and Tiddlers

[Michael Wiktowy]

>
> works better in Firefox than Chrome though...
>

Yes ... ironically, in Chrome, you can force things to print nicely when 
the CSS is uncooperative but all those manual interventions get in the way 
when you are trying to control printing from the page media CSS. Firefox 
seems to listen to more print CSS tweaking ... for better or worse.

/Mike

On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 11:06:06 AM UTC-3, Sycom wrote:
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> page media is not so well implemented in browsers i'm affraid.
>
> I have a project with printing capabilities and have struggled with this. 
> My workaround is using a footer tiddler
> * the footer tiddler has display:none; for @screen view
> * i'm using display: table-footer-group; for @print section
>
> Might inspire you : 
> https://know-rmandie.frama.io/TiddlyPAC/tiddlyPAC-Normandie.html#%24%3A%2Fpac%2Fstyles.css:%24%3A%2Fpac%2Fstyles.css%20styles_de_tiddlyPAC%20%5B%5BPorter%20%C3%A0%20Connaissance%5D%5D
>
> works better in Firefox than Chrome though...
>
> cheers,
>
> Sylvain
> @sycom
>
> Le dimanche 11 août 2019 06:03:21 UTC+2, TonyM a écrit :
>>
>> In relation to View and Print tiddlers with page handling - help 
>> requested 
>> 
>>
>> I am looking at using the @page media in css. However being a css 
>> ignorant I am trying to work out how to use it
>>
>> Specifically I want it to relate to content inside a tiddler. However 
>> most of the code out there relates to a whole html page.
>>
>> Perhaps I need to wrap the text in a tiddler with a div that somehow 
>> specifies it is both display and print media, and to use the print css when 
>> printing.
>>
>> I am particularly interested in defining a tiddler that uses the 
>> https://www.w3.org/TR/css-page-3/#margin-boxes margin boxes documented 
>> here, when printing but it would be nice to see the content on screen as 
>> well, a Kind of wisywig. 
>>
>> I am building a view template that applies a style sheet that defines the 
>> @print media statement but I am hoping to transclude fields on the current 
>> tidder that contain either the content only or also some css to each 
>> "element", so I have a field called element-name and element-name-css in 
>> a tiddler.
>>
>> @top-left-corner 
>> @top-left 
>> @top-center
>> @top-right 
>> @top-right-corner 
>> @bottom-left-corner 
>> @bottom-left 
>> @bottom-center 
>> @bottom-right 
>> @bottom-right-corner
>> @left-top
>> @left-middle
>> @left-bottom
>> @right-top
>> @right-middle
>> @right-bottom
>>
>> After defining the whole page I want the body of the tiddler transcluded 
>> in the body of the page.
>>
>> I am really at a loss how to do this. Especially when it comes to 
>> referring only to the current tiddler and not accidently the whole tiddlet 
>> wiki. To print I open the tiddler in new window and print from there.
>>
>> Once this is working I will also transclude a field defining what html 
>> elements to use to throw a page break eg h1
>>
>> Thanks in Advance
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Competition for v5.1.21 artwork

[TonyM]

I like it

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Advice on upgrading to new 5.1.20

[Michael Wiktowy]

I had this on a couple of mine. I believe that it was flagging 
$:/core/modules/filters/match.js as that was still selected as being a 
tiddler to be imported from my old tiddlywiki.

I vaguely remember having to do something with that way back to make a 
function work and the upgrader may have been just silent on the matter 
until now. I unchecked that particular tiddler to import and just used what 
was included in 5.1.20 and things seem to be OK so far.

/Mike

On Friday, August 9, 2019 at 1:57:58 PM UTC-3, Jon wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> received the following message:
>
>  import - 17:51:47 9 8 2019 (count: 1096)
>> You are about to import a tiddler that will overwrite a core module 
>> tiddler. This is not recommended as it may make the system unstable
>
>
> Can't imagine what this would be but there doesn't appear to be an option 
> to identify the offending tiddler from the list so as not to import it.
>
>
> Regards
> Jon
>

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[tw5] Re: Page media and Tiddlers

[Sycom]

Hi Tony,

page media is not so well implemented in browsers i'm affraid.

I have a project with printing capabilities and have struggled with this. 
My workaround is using a footer tiddler
* the footer tiddler has display:none; for @screen view
* i'm using display: table-footer-group; for @print section

Might inspire you : 
https://know-rmandie.frama.io/TiddlyPAC/tiddlyPAC-Normandie.html#%24%3A%2Fpac%2Fstyles.css:%24%3A%2Fpac%2Fstyles.css%20styles_de_tiddlyPAC%20%5B%5BPorter%20%C3%A0%20Connaissance%5D%5D

works better in Firefox than Chrome though...

cheers,

Sylvain
@sycom

Le dimanche 11 août 2019 06:03:21 UTC+2, TonyM a écrit :
>
> In relation to View and Print tiddlers with page handling - help requested 
> 
>
> I am looking at using the @page media in css. However being a css ignorant 
> I am trying to work out how to use it
>
> Specifically I want it to relate to content inside a tiddler. However most 
> of the code out there relates to a whole html page.
>
> Perhaps I need to wrap the text in a tiddler with a div that somehow 
> specifies it is both display and print media, and to use the print css when 
> printing.
>
> I am particularly interested in defining a tiddler that uses the 
> https://www.w3.org/TR/css-page-3/#margin-boxes margin boxes documented 
> here, when printing but it would be nice to see the content on screen as 
> well, a Kind of wisywig. 
>
> I am building a view template that applies a style sheet that defines the 
> @print media statement but I am hoping to transclude fields on the current 
> tidder that contain either the content only or also some css to each 
> "element", so I have a field called element-name and element-name-css in 
> a tiddler.
>
> @top-left-corner 
> @top-left 
> @top-center
> @top-right 
> @top-right-corner 
> @bottom-left-corner 
> @bottom-left 
> @bottom-center 
> @bottom-right 
> @bottom-right-corner
> @left-top
> @left-middle
> @left-bottom
> @right-top
> @right-middle
> @right-bottom
>
> After defining the whole page I want the body of the tiddler transcluded 
> in the body of the page.
>
> I am really at a loss how to do this. Especially when it comes to 
> referring only to the current tiddler and not accidently the whole tiddlet 
> wiki. To print I open the tiddler in new window and print from there.
>
> Once this is working I will also transclude a field defining what html 
> elements to use to throw a page break eg h1
>
> Thanks in Advance
> Tony
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Generating a complete TiddlyWiki from Excel

[Cade Roux]

As far as the concept of push, you can do that.  I am currently using the 
nodejs command line to import tiddlers into TiddyWiki and then generate the 
single file:

tiddlywiki MyWiki --verbose --import tiddlers.json application/json --build 
index

My database is generating the json containing all the tiddlers

Cade

On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 7:53:49 AM UTC-5, Paul Richardson wrote:
>
> Good afternoon, complete beginner here.
>
> I maintain a reference document for my organisation which has some 
> pre-amble and then is essentially a large table. The user looks through the 
> table for their particular area of interest and then is given a particular 
> category/label for their information. The document is also shared with 
> partner organisations and suppliers and needs to be presented in a portable 
> format - and it cannot be shared on the internet or in a collaborative 
> manner. The document has three levels e.g. section 1, section 1.1, section 
> 1.1.1 (although in some places 1.1.1.1).
>
> [image: Untitled.png]
>
> As the document is quite wordy (with footnotes) it is currently maintained 
> in Word, but I would like to move away from this, and have been playing 
> with TiddlyWiki. As I still need to provide the Word version, what I would 
> quite like to do is have a master database (probably in Excel) which then 
> auto-populates the Word document *and* the TiddlyWiki version. 
>
> I am familiar with the principles of markup laguage and I have managed to 
> get as far as getting Excel to generate the code for the table rows, and 
> have successfully pasted these into a tiddler manually. 
>
> |4.1|Wordy description of situation A| class4 
> | class4 | class2 
> |
> |4.11|Wordy description of situation B| class3 div> | class3 | class1 |
>
>
> [image: Capture.JPG]
>
> However I then wanted to get Excel to generate the code for the whole 
> tiddler itself, (the ), but when I paste 
> the complete tiddler ( header and the content and the  closing) 
> into the HTML directly (just after the tiddlers I created in tiddlywiki), 
> this doesn't seem to work. It looks identical in format to other tiddlers I 
> have added in the usual manner, so there must be other parts of the HTML I 
> need to edit.. (I can see my tiddlers both in the "static" area and in one 
> other place and have added equivalent entries in both).
>
>  title="Description">
> |4.1|Wordy description of situation A| class4
>  | class4 | 
> class2 |
> |4.11|Wordy description of situation B| class3
>  | class3 | 
> class1 |
> 
>
> I know the HTML isn't intended to be directly edited but what can I say!
>
> So my immediate question is, which parts of the HTML file do I need to 
> insert code into in order to add a working tiddler? 
> My other question is - is my objective even possible or will there be too 
> many other unseen hurdles and complications along the way? 
>
> (I suppose the alternative approach is to maintain the master version in 
> TiddlyWiki and then find a way of exporting the whole document to Word, but 
> it needs to be clean and professional).
>
> Thank you!
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Get Tiddlers with Created Date of Current Month and Day

[Josh Sullivan]

Thank you! 

Working perfectly now. I really appreciate it.

Cheers,
Josh

On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 9:51:17 AM UTC-4, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
>
> This is fantastic, thank you @BurningTreeC.
>>
>> A question, when I added it, it didn't give the links to the actual 
>> tiddlers, just the names. At first it had system tiddlers which had live 
>> links, but I was able to filter those out, but the regular Tiddlers links 
>> are not live. I tried to use list-links, but that replicated the results a 
>> ridiculous amount of times and also didn't have the live links. Any 
>> suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks again!
>>
>> On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 6:27:37 AM UTC-4, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,

 Basically I am trying to have something I can look at to see tiddlers 
 from previous years that have the same month and day as today. For 
 example, 
 I could look and see all Tiddlers created on 11 August, from 2018, 2017, 
 etc. 

 I've been trying to get it to work, but I'm not having any luck.

 Any suggestions?

>>>
>>> Hi Josh, this might work:
>>>
>>> <$set name="todayMonthDay" value=<>>
>>> <$list filter="[all[tiddlers]]" variable="tiddler">
>>> <$set name="monthDay" value={{{ 
>>> [get[created]split[]last[13]first[4]join[]] 
>>> }}}>
>>> <$list filter="[match]">
>>>
>>> <>
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
> Here you go with the same but with tiddler-links:
>
>
> <$set name="todayMonthDay" value=<>>
> <$list filter="[all[tiddlers]]" variable="tiddler">
> <$set name="monthDay" value={{{ 
> [get[created]split[]last[13]first[4]join[]] 
> }}}>
> <$list filter="[match]">
>
> <$link to=<>><>
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
>
>
>
>>>
 Cheers,
 Josh

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Generating a complete TiddlyWiki from Excel

[Paul Richardson]

Many thanks - I will have a look!

On Monday, 12 August 2019 14:49:29 UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> This may be of interest: https://tiddlywiki.com/editions/xlsx-utils/
>
> -m
>

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[tw5] Re: Get Tiddlers with Created Date of Current Month and Day

[BurningTreeC]

> This is fantastic, thank you @BurningTreeC.
>
> A question, when I added it, it didn't give the links to the actual 
> tiddlers, just the names. At first it had system tiddlers which had live 
> links, but I was able to filter those out, but the regular Tiddlers links 
> are not live. I tried to use list-links, but that replicated the results a 
> ridiculous amount of times and also didn't have the live links. Any 
> suggestions?
>
> Thanks again!
>
> On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 6:27:37 AM UTC-4, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Basically I am trying to have something I can look at to see tiddlers 
>>> from previous years that have the same month and day as today. For example, 
>>> I could look and see all Tiddlers created on 11 August, from 2018, 2017, 
>>> etc. 
>>>
>>> I've been trying to get it to work, but I'm not having any luck.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>
>> Hi Josh, this might work:
>>
>> <$set name="todayMonthDay" value=<>>
>> <$list filter="[all[tiddlers]]" variable="tiddler">
>> <$set name="monthDay" value={{{ 
>> [get[created]split[]last[13]first[4]join[]] 
>> }}}>
>> <$list filter="[match]">
>>
>> <>
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
Here you go with the same but with tiddler-links:


<$set name="todayMonthDay" value=<>>
<$list filter="[all[tiddlers]]" variable="tiddler">
<$set name="monthDay" value={{{ 
[get[created]split[]last[13]first[4]join[]] 
}}}>
<$list filter="[match]">

<$link to=<>><>









>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Josh
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Generating a complete TiddlyWiki from Excel

[PMario]

Hi Paul,

This may be of interest: https://tiddlywiki.com/editions/xlsx-utils/

-m

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[tw5] Re: Get Tiddlers with Created Date of Current Month and Day

[Josh Sullivan]

This is fantastic, thank you @BurningTreeC.

A question, when I added it, it didn't give the links to the actual 
tiddlers, just the names. At first it had system tiddlers which had live 
links, but I was able to filter those out, but the regular Tiddlers links 
are not live. I tried to use list-links, but that replicated the results a 
ridiculous amount of times and also didn't have the live links. Any 
suggestions?

Thanks again!

On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 6:27:37 AM UTC-4, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>>
>> Basically I am trying to have something I can look at to see tiddlers 
>> from previous years that have the same month and day as today. For example, 
>> I could look and see all Tiddlers created on 11 August, from 2018, 2017, 
>> etc. 
>>
>> I've been trying to get it to work, but I'm not having any luck.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>
> Hi Josh, this might work:
>
> <$set name="todayMonthDay" value=<>>
> <$list filter="[all[tiddlers]]" variable="tiddler">
> <$set name="monthDay" value={{{ 
> [get[created]split[]last[13]first[4]join[]] 
> }}}>
> <$list filter="[match]">
>
> <>
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
>
>
>> Cheers,
>> Josh
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Generating a complete TiddlyWiki from Excel

[Paul Richardson]

Thank you - I hadn't thought of *pulling* into tiddlywiki I have just been 
trying to *push. *I also didn't know it was possible to import.
I might be able to have a two-step process - export from Excel into an 
intermediate format which then gets imported into TiddlyWiki.

Thanks again,
Paul


On Monday, 12 August 2019 14:17:20 UTC+1, Michael Wiktowy wrote:
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> Hot off the press is version 5.1.20 which has some math and string 
> manipulation functionality (specifically split and join) that might make 
> importing and exporting CSV files viable in your use-case. Nothing will be 
> super-automagic but tools should be there out of the box and you might find 
> a good workflow that has your records stored as tiddlers and sections 
> structured as hierarchical tags (see how table of contents work). I believe 
> that there are some more advanced plug-ins that handle import and export of 
> Excel docs that you might be able to use without building the tools 
> yourself.
>
> Also I have has some experience/pain dealing with x.x.x.x type section 
> numbering and the "sortan" filter seems to order those correctly.
>
> Footnotes might be problematic (something that I have been struggling 
> with) since html doesn't have a fixed concept of page and printing and 
> pagination control is a bit sketchy from browsers. Endnotes would be 
> simpler alternative.
>
> Good luck,
> /Mike
>
> On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 9:53:49 AM UTC-3, Paul Richardson wrote:
>>
>> Good afternoon, complete beginner here.
>>
>> I maintain a reference document for my organisation which has some 
>> pre-amble and then is essentially a large table. The user looks through the 
>> table for their particular area of interest and then is given a particular 
>> category/label for their information. The document is also shared with 
>> partner ogranisations and suppliers and needs to be presented in a portable 
>> format - and it cannot be shared on the internet or in a collaborative 
>> manner. The document has three levels e.g. section 1, section 1.1, section 
>> 1.1.1 (although in some places 1.1.1.1).
>>
>> As the document is quite wordy (with footnotes) it is currently 
>> maintained in Word, but I would like to move away from this, and have been 
>> playing with TiddlyWiki. As I still need to provide the Word version, what 
>> I would quite like to do is have a master database (probably in Excel) 
>> which then auto-populates the Word document *and* the TiddlyWiki 
>> version. 
>>
>> I am familiar with the principles of markup laguage and I have managed to 
>> get as far as getting Excel to generate the code for the table rows, and 
>> have successfully pasted these into a tiddler. However I then wanted to get 
>> Excel to generate the code for the tiddler itself, (the > modified tages title> but when I paste this into the HTML directly (just 
>> after the tiddlers I created in tiddlywiki), this doesn't seem to work (and 
>> yes I have closed the  at the end).
>>
>> So my immediate question is, which parts of the HTML file do I need to 
>> insert code into in order to add a working tiddler?
>> My other question is - is my objective even possible or will there be too 
>> many other unseen hurdles and complications along the way? 
>>
>> (I suppose the alternative approach is to maintain the master version in 
>> TiddlyWiki and then find a way of exporting the whole document to Word, but 
>> it needs to be clean and professional).
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Page media and Tiddlers

[TonyM]

Josiah,

Thanks for your suggestions.

I realise I have a gap in my css knowledge here but ultimately I expect it to 
be both easy and flexible especially to a pdf file since as you suggest it 
provides a kind of standard printer. At the moment it seems I need to learn all 
about it so I can choose only what is needed.

Now I am trying to define the page because I am already confident with causing 
tables in the body to page break as needed and repeating headers.

The css available is all about printing whole of html pages rather than 
treating a tiddler as the page source. Page handling css seems to impact the 
whole wiki and there seems to be some gaps in tiddlywikis print action.

I must keep going.
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Generating a complete TiddlyWiki from Excel

[Michael Wiktowy]

Hi Paul,

Hot off the press is version 5.1.20 which has some math and string 
manipulation functionality (specifically split and join) that might make 
importing and exporting CSV files viable in your use-case. Nothing will be 
super-automagic but tools should be there out of the box and you might find 
a good workflow that has your records stored as tiddlers and sections 
structured as hierarchical tags (see how table of contents work). I believe 
that there are some more advanced plug-ins that handle import and export of 
Excel docs that you might be able to use without building the tools 
yourself.

Also I have has some experience/pain dealing with x.x.x.x type section 
numbering and the "sortan" filter seems to order those correctly.

Footnotes might be problematic (something that I have been struggling with) 
since html doesn't have a fixed concept of page and printing and pagination 
control is a bit sketchy from browsers. Endnotes would be simpler 
alternative.

Good luck,
/Mike

On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 9:53:49 AM UTC-3, Paul Richardson wrote:
>
> Good afternoon, complete beginner here.
>
> I maintain a reference document for my organisation which has some 
> pre-amble and then is essentially a large table. The user looks through the 
> table for their particular area of interest and then is given a particular 
> category/label for their information. The document is also shared with 
> partner ogranisations and suppliers and needs to be presented in a portable 
> format - and it cannot be shared on the internet or in a collaborative 
> manner. The document has three levels e.g. section 1, section 1.1, section 
> 1.1.1 (although in some places 1.1.1.1).
>
> As the document is quite wordy (with footnotes) it is currently maintained 
> in Word, but I would like to move away from this, and have been playing 
> with TiddlyWiki. As I still need to provide the Word version, what I would 
> quite like to do is have a master database (probably in Excel) which then 
> auto-populates the Word document *and* the TiddlyWiki version. 
>
> I am familiar with the principles of markup laguage and I have managed to 
> get as far as getting Excel to generate the code for the table rows, and 
> have successfully pasted these into a tiddler. However I then wanted to get 
> Excel to generate the code for the tiddler itself, (the  modified tages title> but when I paste this into the HTML directly (just 
> after the tiddlers I created in tiddlywiki), this doesn't seem to work (and 
> yes I have closed the  at the end).
>
> So my immediate question is, which parts of the HTML file do I need to 
> insert code into in order to add a working tiddler?
> My other question is - is my objective even possible or will there be too 
> many other unseen hurdles and complications along the way? 
>
> (I suppose the alternative approach is to maintain the master version in 
> TiddlyWiki and then find a way of exporting the whole document to Word, but 
> it needs to be clean and professional).
>
> Thank you!
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Polly (3) -- Downloads as HUB

[@TiddlyTweeter]

>
> @TiddlyTweeter:
>>
>> Say I write this in Windows BATCH ...
>>
>>powershell -file .\polly.ps1 -run "menu" -ini "t_relative-USB.ini"
>>
>> ... the bat file can be clicked to run from file explorer GUI. File 
>> called "t_relative-USB.bat"
>>
>
>
*BTC *

> *I would call it t_relative-USB.sh*
>

TX! That is all  I needed to see :-)

TT 

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[tw5] Generating a complete TiddlyWiki from Excel

[Paul Richardson]

Good afternoon, complete beginner here.

I maintain a reference document for my organisation which has some 
pre-amble and then is essentially a large table. The user looks through the 
table for their particular area of interest and then is given a particular 
category/label for their information. The document is also shared with 
partner ogranisations and suppliers and needs to be presented in a portable 
format - and it cannot be shared on the internet or in a collaborative 
manner. The document has three levels e.g. section 1, section 1.1, section 
1.1.1 (although in some places 1.1.1.1).

As the document is quite wordy (with footnotes) it is currently maintained 
in Word, but I would like to move away from this, and have been playing 
with TiddlyWiki. As I still need to provide the Word version, what I would 
quite like to do is have a master database (probably in Excel) which then 
auto-populates the Word document *and* the TiddlyWiki version. 

I am familiar with the principles of markup laguage and I have managed to 
get as far as getting Excel to generate the code for the table rows, and 
have successfully pasted these into a tiddler. However I then wanted to get 
Excel to generate the code for the tiddler itself, (the  but when I paste this into the HTML directly (just 
after the tiddlers I created in tiddlywiki), this doesn't seem to work (and 
yes I have closed the  at the end).

So my immediate question is, which parts of the HTML file do I need to 
insert code into in order to add a working tiddler?
My other question is - is my objective even possible or will there be too 
many other unseen hurdles and complications along the way? 

(I suppose the alternative approach is to maintain the master version in 
TiddlyWiki and then find a way of exporting the whole document to Word, but 
it needs to be clean and professional).

Thank you!

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[tw5] Re: Polly (3) -- Downloads as HUB

[BurningTreeC]

Am Montag, 12. August 2019 14:37:36 UTC+2 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> Thanks BTC
>
> Say I write this in Windows BATCH ...
>
>powershell -file .\polly.ps1 -run "menu" -ini "t_relative-USB.ini"
>
> ... the bat file can be clicked to run from file explorer GUI. File called 
> "t_relative-USB.bat"
>

I would call it t_relative-USB.sh


> In BASH would it be as simple as? ...
>

I'm sorry I don't know much about batch-to-linux conversion 

>
>powershell -file ./polly.ps1 -run "menu" -ini "t_relative-USB.ini"
>
> What would I call a clickable GUI file in under bash? 
> "t_relative-USB.bash"?
>
> i know NOTHING :(
>
> TT
>
> On Monday, 12 August 2019 11:53:21 UTC+2, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> General question on Linux.
>>>
>>>
>>> What is the equivalent of a Windows "batch" file?
>>>
>>
>> Hi, I'd say a bash script 
>>
>>>
>>> TT
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Polly (3) -- Downloads as HUB

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Thanks BTC

Say I write this in Windows BATCH ...

   powershell -file .\polly.ps1 -run "menu" -ini "t_relative-USB.ini"

... the bat file can be clicked to run from file explorer GUI. File called 
"t_relative-USB.bat"

In BASH would it be as simple as? ...

   powershell -file ./polly.ps1 -run "menu" -ini "t_relative-USB.ini"

What would I call a clickable GUI file in under bash? "t_relative-USB.bash"?

i know NOTHING :(

TT

On Monday, 12 August 2019 11:53:21 UTC+2, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> General question on Linux.
>>
>>
>> What is the equivalent of a Windows "batch" file?
>>
>
> Hi, I'd say a bash script 
>
>>
>> TT
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Get Tiddlers with Created Date of Current Month and Day

[Sycom]

Hi,

If you do not want to upgrade to 5.1.20 yet, you may use those operators I 
made for my own needs (generating year / month grouped lists of tiddlers - 
"Creation date index attachment") : EachYear/Month and SameYear/Month are 
inspired form EachDay and SameDay (see 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#eachday%20Operator and 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#sameday%20Operator)

best regards,

Sylvain
@sycom

Le lundi 12 août 2019 12:35:29 UTC+2, BurningTreeC a écrit :
>
>
>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Basically I am trying to have something I can look at to see tiddlers 
>>> from previous years that have the same month and day as today. For example, 
>>> I could look and see all Tiddlers created on 11 August, from 2018, 2017, 
>>> etc. 
>>>
>>> I've been trying to get it to work, but I'm not having any luck.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>
>> Hi Josh, this might work:
>>
>> <$set name="todayMonthDay" value=<>>
>> <$list filter="[all[tiddlers]]" variable="tiddler">
>> <$set name="monthDay" value={{{ 
>> [get[created]split[]last[13]first[4]join[]] 
>> }}}>
>> <$list filter="[match]">
>>
>> <>
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
> I need to say that this uses the new "match", "split" and "join" operators 
> from the latest 5.1.20 release
>
> cheers, btc
>  
>
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Josh
>>>
>>

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$__ext_modules_macros_sameyear.js.tid
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$__ext_modules_macros_samemonth.js.tid
Description: Binary data


$__ext_modules_macros_eachyear.js.tid
Description: Binary data


$__ext_modules_macros_eachmonth.js.tid
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Creation date index.tid
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[tw5] Re: Get Tiddlers with Created Date of Current Month and Day

[BurningTreeC]

>
>
> Hello,
>>
>> Basically I am trying to have something I can look at to see tiddlers 
>> from previous years that have the same month and day as today. For example, 
>> I could look and see all Tiddlers created on 11 August, from 2018, 2017, 
>> etc. 
>>
>> I've been trying to get it to work, but I'm not having any luck.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>
> Hi Josh, this might work:
>
> <$set name="todayMonthDay" value=<>>
> <$list filter="[all[tiddlers]]" variable="tiddler">
> <$set name="monthDay" value={{{ 
> [get[created]split[]last[13]first[4]join[]] 
> }}}>
> <$list filter="[match]">
>
> <>
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
>
I need to say that this uses the new "match" operator from the latest 
5.1.20 release

cheers, btc
 

>
>> Cheers,
>> Josh
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Get Tiddlers with Created Date of Current Month and Day

[BurningTreeC]

> Hello,
>
> Basically I am trying to have something I can look at to see tiddlers from 
> previous years that have the same month and day as today. For example, I 
> could look and see all Tiddlers created on 11 August, from 2018, 2017, etc. 
>
> I've been trying to get it to work, but I'm not having any luck.
>
> Any suggestions?
>

Hi Josh, this might work:

<$set name="todayMonthDay" value=<>>
<$list filter="[all[tiddlers]]" variable="tiddler">
<$set name="monthDay" value={{{ 
[get[created]split[]last[13]first[4]join[]] 
}}}>
<$list filter="[match]">

<>








> Cheers,
> Josh
>

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[tw5] Internal JS error after updating to 5.1.20

[Hubert]

Hello,

Thanks for the update! Unfortunately, I get the following error when 
opening the upgraded TW file:

[image: error.png]


What I've tried so far:



   - I've disabled all plugins
   - I've removed password protection (encryption)
   - I've checked my language in Settings (it's set to UK English)
   
Unfortunately, the issue persists and there's little else I could think of. 
Would anyone have any ideas about what could have gone wrong and how I 
could fix that?

Thank you in advance!

Best regards,
Hubert


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[tw5] Re: Polly (3) -- Downloads as HUB

[@TiddlyTweeter]

>
> Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> especially in the context of USB testing, that you might
>>
> want to try some larger files to give a more realistic experience.
>>
>
@TiddlyTweeter wrote: 

Right. I overlooked that so far!
>
> Now there is testing structure I'll make a "Performance" version as it 
> will be easy.
>

The gory details of a serious performance check are here: 
https://github.com/Marxsal/polly/issues/2

Polly performed well on this basic challenge test (8 wiki updated every 10 
seconds; restore process running every 3 seconds) from a USB stick.

Hence also the random thoughts about robocopy, which is supposedly more
>> robust than standard copy, but actually I don't know if it's more robust 
>> than
>> the copy function built into PS.
>>
>
I don't think RoboCopy is needed.

TT 

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[tw5] Re: Polly (3) -- Downloads as HUB

[BurningTreeC]

General question on Linux.
>
>
> What is the equivalent of a Windows "batch" file?
>

Hi, I'd say a bash script 

>
> TT
>

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[tw5] Re: Polly (3) -- Downloads as HUB

[@TiddlyTweeter]

>
> For instance, maybe platform dependent # INTERNAL SETTINGS might be moved 
> to secondary scripts or *.\lib\win-internal.ini*, 
> *.\lib\mac-internal.ini *& *.\lib\unix-internal.ini*?


My point about this is a wondering if we could enable *ONE system that 
auto-supports 3 o/s*.

So, for instance, a user who uses both Linux & Windows ONLY downloads ONE 
set of PSCore scripts that can auto adapt to either run environment?

Too ambitious?

Simply my thoughts on now.

TT

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[tw5] Re: Polly (3) -- Downloads as HUB

[@TiddlyTweeter]

For those on electronic mail I updated my penultimate 
post https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/lMAdx3Xrqow/ehuI5HUBDAAJ

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[tw5] Re: Polly (3) -- Downloads as HUB

[@TiddlyTweeter]

General question on Linux.

What is the equivalent of a Windows "batch" file?

TT

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[tw5] Re: Page media and Tiddlers

[@TiddlyTweeter]

For those on email ... I update my last 
post: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/wXhrnhiV8Xg/N3TlGqQGDAAJ

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[tw5] Re: Page media and Tiddlers

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Tony

I think this is a great topic.

I have tried to produce a precise mono-typed print layout for film scripts 
in the past with accurate page breaks.

I looked at the "Prince" specialised CSS based print system that is very 
informative about CSS & print media. You don't actually need to use it. Its 
just informative.
https://www.princexml.com/

I concluded there are two issues ... 
(a) figuring out what you need to "zero-out" in TW; (Telmiger's 
"Bricks" CSS design plugin is good for that)
(b) coping with some variants between browsers (far less now than 
before, though).

But I'm not there yet.

TT

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Advice on upgrading to new 5.1.20

[Suzanne McHale]

I had this notice too - on doing that search, I saw I had made copies of 
some shadow tiddlers to modify these (rather than the originals).

On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 3:33:20 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Is it possible that you have modified existing core modules? Possibly a 
> TOC macro or something?
>
> If you put this in the filter tab of the advanced search:
>
>
> [all[tiddlers]is[system]!prefix[$:/state]!prefix[$:/temp]!sort[modified]limit[25]]
>
> It might help jog your memory about tiddlers you might have modified. You 
> can increase the "25" to see more.
>
>
>
> On Friday, August 9, 2019 at 9:57:58 AM UTC-7, Jon wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> received the following message:
>>
>>  import - 17:51:47 9 8 2019 (count: 1096)
>>> You are about to import a tiddler that will overwrite a core module 
>>> tiddler. This is not recommended as it may make the system unstable
>>
>>
>> Can't imagine what this would be but there doesn't appear to be an option 
>> to identify the offending tiddler from the list so as not to import it.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Jon
>>
>

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