date:20190820

See your answer here

https://kookma.github.io/TW5-GitHub-Saver/#FAQ

Seems turning off autosave and not repeatedly press saving button solves 
the problem.

By the way, I think this is an issue in TW side! It should prevent 
concurrent saving!



--Mohammad

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:56:09 PM UTC+4:30, FFT wrote:
>
> The built-in GitHub Saver in TW5 (version 5.1.20) is working only on my 
> first save. If I save a second time it gives the following error:
>
> "Error while saving:  XMLHttpRequest error code: 409". 
>
> Only way for me to make additional edits and save is to close the tab and 
> reopen it again. I'm using the latest version of Firefox.
>
> Anyone else experience this?
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Make search results less persistent

Create a tiddler called anything-you-like but give it the tag 
$:/tags/StartupAction

Put this in the tiddler text field:

<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/temp/search" $value=""/>

Save and reopen your wiki.


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[tw5] [TW5] Make search results less persistent

2019-08-20 Thread Mark Kerrigan

Hello all

I'm sure it has been addressed before, but sometimes when I re-open a 
TiddlyWiki the previous search term is still in the search box and 
sometimes the search results are also visible too. Of course I could click 
the close search button, but is there an option to stop TW from keeping the 
last search item persistent? I'm currently on 5.1.19

Thanks
Mark Kerrigan

[image: persistent-search-results.png] 

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[tw5] Re: Remove last character of a tiddler's text within a macro

It's the linefeeds in the original text. What I did here was to add regular 
expressions to take the lines apart, join them back together, and then do 
the original split.

Good luck!

\define ViewTiddlerAppended()
<$vars ViewText={{$(viewpath)$}}>
VIEW TEXT: <>

<$set name=shortpath filter="[{$(viewpath)$}splitregexp[\n]join[ 
]splitregexp[^(.*?).\s*$]]" select=1 >
OUTPUT: <>


\end

^(.*?).$

<$vars viewpath="$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/graph/views/MyView/map 1"
>

View Tiddler Appended: <>





On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 2:06:54 PM UTC-7, MagoArcade wrote:
>
> Thanks. Attached
>

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[tw5] Re: Remove last character of a tiddler's text within a macro

2019-08-20 Thread MagoArcade

Thanks. Attached

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Description: application/json

[tw5] Re: Link to a Tiddler in a "local" TiddlyWiki file

2019-08-20 Thread kat

Hmm I'm not sure then. It works for me.

Here is the relevant page in the docs if you haven't already seen it: 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Linking%20in%20WikiText

Sorry I can't be of more help.

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 2:41:03 PM UTC+1, Mohamed Amin wrote:
>
> Thanks kat for your reply, but I did try to add the "fill:///" part after 
> the "Permalink", and it doesn't work in the case of "Local files", It works 
> ONLY if the target TiddlyWiki is hosted in a "HTTP Server"
>
> On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 3:46:06 PM UTC+2, kat wrote:
>>
>> If you are working in the browser I think you need to prepend "file:///" 
>> to the path.
>>
>> For example:
>>
>> [ext[myLink|file:///D:/TW02#MyTiddler00]]
>>
>> This is the path you get when you select "Permalink" from the tiddler 
>> menu.
>>
>> On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 11:55:52 PM UTC+1, Mohamed Amin wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> I've tried to figure this out reading some old cases , but I failed (I 
>>> just meet TW5 2 months ago), so I appreciate your support here.
>>>
>>> Suppose that I've 2 TW5 files (TW01 and TW02), I'm trying to put a link 
>>> in "TW01" so when I click that link it should open the "TW02" file and show 
>>> a Tiddler named "MyTiddler00", I've tried the following:-
>>>
>>>
>>>1. If the "TW02" is hosted in a "http server", and I use the link = 
>>>[[myLink|http://TW02/#MyTiddler00]] , the link is working perfect 
>>>and the TW02 is opened with the correct Tiddler MyTiddler00
>>>2. If the "TW02" is stored locally (i.e. in drive "D:"), and I use 
>>>the link = [ext[myLink|D:/TW02/#MyTiddler00]] , Nothing is happened (No 
>>>response)
>>>3. If the "TW02" is stored locally (i.e. in drive "D:"), and I use 
>>>the link = [ext[myLink|D:/TW02#MyTiddler00]] (removing the LAST forward 
>>>slash before the "#" sign), the file "TW02" is open BUT with the 
>>> "default" 
>>>tiddler (ex. HelloThere)
>>>
>>>
>>> So, did I miss something here?
>>>
>>> Thanks in Advance
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Any way to calculate "6 days from now" using core tools?

2019-08-20 Thread Mat

Hi Mark

I found this algo

https://web.archive.org/web/20170507133619/https://alcor.concordia.ca/~gpkatch/gdate-algorithm.html

It should be enough with our new math functions. As an experiment I made 
the first part (the g function):

\define g(y, m, d)
<$set name=m value={{{ [[$m$]add[9]remainder[12]] }}}>
<$set name=y value={{{ [divide[10]subtract[$y$]negate[]] }}}>
<$set name=y4 value={{{ [add[4]] }}}>
<$set name=y100 value={{{ [divide[100]] }}}>
<$set name=y400 value={{{ [divide[400]] }}}>
<$set name=m3 value={{{ [multiply[306]add[5]divide[10]] }}}>
{{{ 
[[365]multiplyaddsubtractaddaddadd[$d$]subtract[1]] 
}}}

\end

This seems to work but it is only half of what is needed so I can't tell 
for sure. What you're asking for is

 d(g(y,m,d) + n)


which thus requires the d function and maybe also to mess a bit with the 
<> macro to extract the desired bits. Or maybe it could be integrated 
into the function for a more elegant solution.

Tell me if you need more help and I'll fiddle a bit more. I'm a bit heavy 
on work for some time but I'm a tiddly junkie so small and well defined 
bits like these...

<:-)


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[tw5] Re: Remove last character of a tiddler's text within a macro

I'm guessing that your data is a little different. Maybe you could use the 
tiddler export to export 

$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/graph/views/map

as a JSON file. Then attach and upload it here.


On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 11:54:04 AM UTC-7, MagoArcade wrote:
>
> Thanks again for the reply Mark. However, I just can't figure why the 
> code's working your end but not mine. It looks like you've tested this 
> code. But when I run mine, I get a different result. Mine:
>
> \define ViewTiddlerAppended()
> <$vars ViewText={{$(viewpath)$}}>
> VIEW TEXT: <>
> <$set name=shortpath filter="[{$(viewpath)$}splitregexp[^(.*?).$]]" select
> =1 >
> OUTPUT: [<>]
> 
> 
> \end
>
> <$vars viewpath="$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/graph/views/MyView/map"
> >
>
> View Tiddler Appended: <>
>
> 
>
> Output:
>
> View Tiddler Appended: VIEW TEXT: { "8c44558c-cd16-4064-87b6-d4b40fd167e8"
> : { "x": -351, "y": -55 }, "565d2cae-a39e-4bec-b16b-543619cf2bd7": { "x": 
> -119, "y": -72 }, "13f94e2c-189b-439e-aa55-0c7a88d45f97": { "x": -132, "y"
> : 136 }, "e20a7328-d70c-477d-8103-1d99ffbf031b": { "x": -127, "y": -191 }, 
> "516a25e4-c141-4469-a790-229b90da4bfa": { "x": -126, "y": 11 }, 
> "cd326bff-d50c-406a-a5ca-a87699ae7bbe": { "x": -461, "y": -201 }, 
> "7a8b1138-dbb9-49c8-91d6-12b9f21929f2": { "x": -559, "y": -108 }, 
> "6a96291a-44bc-4d77-9261-8cc7b2964e87": { "x": -271, "y": -250 }, 
> "3cadefc8-4186-4524-968a-22083b54c0bc": { "x": 18, "y": -146 }, 
> "41bb28a9-b37f-4628-9730-0a48234a7490": { "x": -582, "y": 13 }, 
> "6a5db04b-27e0-4e0d-81a3-1a3c1b44e928": { "x": -503, "y": 144 }, 
> "7cc70f20-3457-4641-a2ab-d6f0512ab092": { "x": -333, "y": 176 } } 
> OUTPUT: []
>
> Any ideas? I'm using the most recent version of tw
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Remove last character of a tiddler's text within a macro

2019-08-20 Thread MagoArcade

Thanks again for the reply Mark. However, I just can't figure why the 
code's working your end but not mine. It looks like you've tested this 
code. But when I run mine, I get a different result. Mine:

\define ViewTiddlerAppended()
<$vars ViewText={{$(viewpath)$}}>
VIEW TEXT: <>
<$set name=shortpath filter="[{$(viewpath)$}splitregexp[^(.*?).$]]" select=1 
>
OUTPUT: [<>]


\end

<$vars viewpath="$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/graph/views/MyView/map">

View Tiddler Appended: <>



Output:

View Tiddler Appended: VIEW TEXT: { "8c44558c-cd16-4064-87b6-d4b40fd167e8": 
{ "x": -351, "y": -55 }, "565d2cae-a39e-4bec-b16b-543619cf2bd7": { "x": -119
, "y": -72 }, "13f94e2c-189b-439e-aa55-0c7a88d45f97": { "x": -132, "y": 136 
}, "e20a7328-d70c-477d-8103-1d99ffbf031b": { "x": -127, "y": -191 }, 
"516a25e4-c141-4469-a790-229b90da4bfa": { "x": -126, "y": 11 }, 
"cd326bff-d50c-406a-a5ca-a87699ae7bbe": { "x": -461, "y": -201 }, 
"7a8b1138-dbb9-49c8-91d6-12b9f21929f2": { "x": -559, "y": -108 }, 
"6a96291a-44bc-4d77-9261-8cc7b2964e87": { "x": -271, "y": -250 }, 
"3cadefc8-4186-4524-968a-22083b54c0bc": { "x": 18, "y": -146 }, 
"41bb28a9-b37f-4628-9730-0a48234a7490": { "x": -582, "y": 13 }, 
"6a5db04b-27e0-4e0d-81a3-1a3c1b44e928": { "x": -503, "y": 144 }, 
"7cc70f20-3457-4641-a2ab-d6f0512ab092": { "x": -333, "y": 176 } } 
OUTPUT: []

Any ideas? I'm using the most recent version of tw

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[tw5] [TW5] GitHub Saver error code: 409

2019-08-20 Thread FFT

The built-in GitHub Saver in TW5 (version 5.1.20) is working only on my 
first save. If I save a second time it gives the following error:

"Error while saving:  XMLHttpRequest error code: 409". 

Only way for me to make additional edits and save is to close the tab and 
reopen it again. I'm using the latest version of Firefox.

Does anyone else experience this?

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[tw5] Re: [Thoughts] The Philosophy of "Units" & TW "data"

Thanks Mark.

Yes. I do similar things already. But where I'm coming from (and Mario) is 
that traditional macros do not aid writing "free text", i.e. *prose*. 

In fact, I think it was you that wrote the paragraph regex I'm already 
using (out of which came regexps, if i remember correctly).

Ring any bells?

\define toc-get-text-context(find)
<$set name=f value=
'[titleget[text]regexps[(?g)(\w|\s|\,|\.|\-|“|”|\`|\?|\x22|\x27|\/\/){1,50}$find$(\w|\s|\,|\.|\-|“|”|\`|\?|\x22|\x27|\/\/){1,100}]first[5]]'
>

Sections

...and it goes on...



Sincere aplogies to Josiah for having hijacked his thread :(

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 1:09:33 PM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>
> You know, you could already do something sort of like that with macros:
>
> \define show-macro(macro)
> <$reveal type="match" state=<> text="show">
>
> <<$macro$>>
> 
> <$button set=<>  setTo="show">Show
> <$button set=<>  setTo="hide">Hide
>
>
> \end
>
> \define GAN-010()
> !! The Great Anhk-Porkian Novel
>
> The waters of the Anhk River were flowing briskly that day. Which meant, 
> for most of the neighborhood, that they could function as a form of 
> moving sidewalk. Albeit, one you might be stuck to forever.
>
> \end
> \define GAN-020()
> !!! A Chat with DEATH
>
> But the flow of the river matched the slower, more leisurely flow of 
> photons from the Desk World sun. The flight flowing slower, necessarily 
> putting an upper limit on everyone's activities, per the  Anne Stein's 
> law of Relativity. To wit, if you were a relative of Anne Stein, the 
> curvaceous bar-maid, then maybe you better make your order and hurry up 
> with it.
>
> At the end of the bar sat a tall, lonely figure wearing a black shroud, a 
> permanent grin, and a large toupee. 
>  
> \end
>
> <>
> <>
>
> If there was a way to find all the macros inside a tiddler, then you 
> wouldn't need to individually invoke them.
>
> --Mark
>
> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 9:56:57 AM UTC-7, coda coder wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:41:59 AM UTC-5, PMario wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 4:13:39 PM UTC+2, coda coder wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmmm, That's a similar thought as I posted in the thread: IDEA 
>>> Multi-line Fields ... Possible implementation 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>> Ha! almost identical :)
>>  
>>
>>> Defining prose text like this, would make it technically accessible.
>>>
>>
>> That's the key - addressability.
>>  
>>
>>> ... But there wouldn't be the "beauty" of a continuous writing process. 
>>>
>>>
>> Agreed. But I don't see a way around that. I guess something like @@ 
>> could be used (or !headings again, which terminate at the next identical 
>> !heading or end of field).
>>
>> But, to be clear, I was suggesting \define-section be used *inline*, not 
>> at the start of the text like macros:
>>
>> Stuff and things
>>
>> \define-section my-section
>> More stuff
>> \end
>>
>> And more things
>>
>>
>> Then the transclusion previously mentioned digs them out (or they're 
>> double-stored in data-fields for easier lookup/retrieval).
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [Thoughts] The Philosophy of "Units" & TW "data"

You know, you could already do something sort of like that with macros:

\define show-macro(macro)
<$reveal type="match" state=<> text="show">

<<$macro$>>

<$button set=<>  setTo="show">Show
<$button set=<>  setTo="hide">Hide

\end

\define GAN-010()
!! The Great Anhk-Porkian Novel

The waters of the Anhk River were flowing briskly that day. Which meant, for 
most of the neighborhood, that they could function as a form of moving 
sidewalk. Albeit, one you might be stuck to forever.

\end
\define GAN-020()
!!! A Chat with DEATH

But the flow of the river matched the slower, more leisurely flow of 
photons from the Desk World sun. The flight flowing slower, necessarily 
putting an upper limit on everyone's activities, per the  Anne Stein's law 
of Relativity. To wit, if you were a relative of Anne Stein, the curvaceous 
bar-maid, then maybe you better make your order and hurry up with it.

At the end of the bar sat a tall, lonely figure wearing a black shroud, a 
permanent grin, and a large toupee. 

\end

<>
<>

If there was a way to find all the macros inside a tiddler, then you 
wouldn't need to individually invoke them.

--Mark

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 9:56:57 AM UTC-7, coda coder wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:41:59 AM UTC-5, PMario wrote:
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 4:13:39 PM UTC+2, coda coder wrote:
>>
>> Hmmm, That's a similar thought as I posted in the thread: IDEA 
>> Multi-line Fields ... Possible implementation 
>> 
>>
>>
> Ha! almost identical :)
>  
>
>> Defining prose text like this, would make it technically accessible.
>>
>
> That's the key - addressability.
>  
>
>> ... But there wouldn't be the "beauty" of a continuous writing process. 
>>
>>
> Agreed. But I don't see a way around that. I guess something like @@ could 
> be used (or !headings again, which terminate at the next identical !heading 
> or end of field).
>
> But, to be clear, I was suggesting \define-section be used *inline*, not 
> at the start of the text like macros:
>
> Stuff and things
>
> \define-section my-section
> More stuff
> \end
>
> And more things
>
>
> Then the transclusion previously mentioned digs them out (or they're 
> double-stored in data-fields for easier lookup/retrieval).
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [Thoughts] The Philosophy of "Units" & TW "data"

Thanks Mohammad.

Yes, I use Thomas' extract and a few other bits I've cobbled together over 
the years. I'll give find/slice a look.

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 11:59:20 AM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>
> look here
>  https://kookma.github.io/find-macro/#demo%2Ffind%2Fslice
>
> This is an example of partial transclusion! Only what you need is to use 
> appropriate delimiter!
> For example
>
> ! h1
>
> !! h2
>
> !h3
>
>
> can use ! as delimiter!
>
> There is another solution by Thomas Telmiger called Extract.
>
> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 6:43:39 PM UTC+4:30, coda coder wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 7:25:33 AM UTC-5, PMario wrote:
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 4:50:11 PM UTC+2, coda coder wrote:
>>> ...
>>>
 So, in my view...

 A "good fragment" is, *generally speaking,* something that "belongs" 
 in a field.

>>>
>>> I do like the quotes around your "belongs"!
>>>
>>
>> Yep. ;) 
>>
>>
>>> IMO with TW5 this is a technical reason and it shouldn't be that way. 
>>> ... It should be much more user friendly. 
>>>
>>>
>> Agreed. I too think we lost something when TWC's heading-sections didn't 
>> make it into the TW5 model.
>>
>> I do use custom tags to create a poor-man's version of sections within a 
>> text - but individual addressability is not possible.
>>
>> In my dreams, this would work:
>>
>> {{tiddler-name[!!optional-field]..section-name}}
>>
>> And in markup...
>>
>> \define-section my-section
>>
>> Stuff and things
>>
>> \end
>>
>> Or, perhaps,
>>
>> 
>>
>> More stuff
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [Thoughts] The Philosophy of "Units" & TW "data"

look here
 https://kookma.github.io/find-macro/#demo%2Ffind%2Fslice

This is an example of partial transclusion! Only what you need is to use 
appropriate delimiter!
For example

! h1

!! h2

!h3


can use ! as delimiter!

There is another solution by Thomas Telmiger called Extract.

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 6:43:39 PM UTC+4:30, coda coder wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 7:25:33 AM UTC-5, PMario wrote:
>>
>> On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 4:50:11 PM UTC+2, coda coder wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>> So, in my view...
>>>
>>> A "good fragment" is, *generally speaking,* something that "belongs" in 
>>> a field.
>>>
>>
>> I do like the quotes around your "belongs"!
>>
>
> Yep. ;) 
>
>
>> IMO with TW5 this is a technical reason and it shouldn't be that way. ... 
>> It should be much more user friendly. 
>>
>>
> Agreed. I too think we lost something when TWC's heading-sections didn't 
> make it into the TW5 model.
>
> I do use custom tags to create a poor-man's version of sections within a 
> text - but individual addressability is not possible.
>
> In my dreams, this would work:
>
> {{tiddler-name[!!optional-field]..section-name}}
>
> And in markup...
>
> \define-section my-section
>
> Stuff and things
>
> \end
>
> Or, perhaps,
>
> 
>
> More stuff
>
> 
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [Thoughts] The Philosophy of "Units" & TW "data"



On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:41:59 AM UTC-5, PMario wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 4:13:39 PM UTC+2, coda coder wrote:
>
> Hmmm, That's a similar thought as I posted in the thread: IDEA Multi-line 
> Fields ... Possible implementation 
> 
>
>
Ha! almost identical :)
 

> Defining prose text like this, would make it technically accessible.
>

That's the key - addressability.
 

> ... But there wouldn't be the "beauty" of a continuous writing process. 
>
>
Agreed. But I don't see a way around that. I guess something like @@ could 
be used (or !headings again, which terminate at the next identical !heading 
or end of field).

But, to be clear, I was suggesting \define-section be used *inline*, not at 
the start of the text like macros:

Stuff and things

\define-section my-section
More stuff
\end

And more things


Then the transclusion previously mentioned digs them out (or they're 
double-stored in data-fields for easier lookup/retrieval).

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[tw5] Re: first wiki is up-- Guide to general use of TW

2019-08-20 Thread 'Autumn Gray Eakin' via TiddlyWiki

I thought I would point out CSS placement problems dramatically affecting 
usability when viewing the TW in Firefox on iOS 12+.

Most/all of the content fully overlaps at the top of the page, so as to be 
indistinguishable and impossible to interact with. See attached screenshot.

While I have non-mobile options for interaction, I like many people these days 
no longer actually use them when we don’t have to. :-)

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and GitHub Pages and Travis-CI

*Announcement: New Demo and Documentation to create websites on GitHub 
Pages*
*Date: Aug 20, 2019*
*New update*

Updated to latest Tiddlywiki revision and improved documentation!
Note that the repository has been renamed to Tiddlywiki-Travis-CI 


--Mohammad


On Friday, April 5, 2019 at 12:49:01 AM UTC+4:30, Mohammad wrote:
>
> *Announcement: New Demo and Documentation to create websites on GitHub 
> Pages*
> *Date: Apr 5th, 2019*
>
> Referring to the good works by Danielo, Talha, and Joe, an some other 
> people ,
> for the documentation purpose, I have prepared two demo wikis with 
> documentation to show
>
>
> *Setup websites using Tiddlywiki 5, and Travis-CI hosted on GitHub Pages*
>
> Code: https://github.com/kookma/Tiddlywiki-Travis-CI
> Demo: https://kookma.github.io/Tiddlywiki-Travis-CI/ 
> 
>
>
>
> *Setup websites using Tiddlywiki 5, and hosted on GitHub Pages*
> Code: https://github.com/kookma/Tiddlywiki-and-GitHub-Pages
> Demo: https://kookma.github.io/Tiddlywiki-and-GitHub-Pages/
>
>
> I appreciate your comments, help and idea to improve these wikis.
>
> --Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: first wiki is up-- Guide to general use of TW

2019-08-20 Thread Thomas Elmiger

A Gloom


Took care of those evil white tabs-- used the new Twilight palette from 5.1.20


As the author of the palette I am happy to read that it is actually used by 
real people :) 

Thomas 

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Re: [tw5] Copy result of wikitext and macros to clipboard

2019-08-20 Thread Jeremy Ruston

Hi Tony

Here's one way to do it. It's a classic application of the wikify widget: we 
need access to the wikified text of a tiddler, rather than its raw text.

Note how the actions are placed in a separate action string to avoid having to 
do the wikification until it is required (if it was within the button widget 
then the wikify widget would be re-evaluated each time the store changes).

Best wishes

Jeremy


\define actions()
<$wikify name="content" text={{HelloThere}}>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-copy-to-clipboard" $param=<>/>

\end
<$button actions=<>>
Copy to clipboard



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> On 19 Aug 2019, at 11:58, TonyM  wrote:
> 
> 
> Folks,
> 
> I believe I should know this, but I have a tiddler name "tiddlername" which 
> contains wikitext, list macros and more. Its a beautiful representation of a 
> csv file from my tiddler data and fields.
> 
> In any tiddler I can place {{tiddlername}} and see the wonderful result.
> 
> However I want to be able to copy the result as text 
> 
> <$button message="tm-copy-to-clipboard" param=  >
> Copy to clipboard
> 
> 
> How do I provide this with the appropriate parameter ?
> 
> I have another tiddler called "realcutetiddler" which renders a really nice 
> HTML output. Rather than save this as a static html tiddler I would like to 
> copy the HTML result to the clipboard
> 
> Again How do I provide the above with the appropriate parameter ?
> 
> At the moment, with everything I try I just get in the clipboard the raw 
> unprocessed wiki text in my tiddlers.
> 
> Yours, very lost.
> 
> Tony
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[tw5] Re: [Thoughts] The Philosophy of "Units" & TW "data"

2019-08-20 Thread PMario

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 4:13:39 PM UTC+2, coda coder wrote:
...

> In my dreams, this would work:
>
> {{tiddler-name[!!optional-field]..section-name}}
>
> And in markup...
>
> \define-section my-section
>
> Stuff and things
>
> \end
>
>
Hmmm, That's a similar thought as I posted in the thread: IDEA Multi-line 
Fields ... Possible implementation 


Defining prose text like this, would make it technically accessible. ... 
But there wouldn't be the "beauty" of a continuous writing process. 

-m



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[tw5] Re: [Thoughts] The Philosophy of "Units" & TW "data"

2019-08-20 Thread Mohamed Amin

Just to say, I loved this conversation.

And actually I just read the following in "PyTiddlyWiki":

> Having the possibility to capture ideas and thoughts in a non-linear, 
> 'rhizomatic' way is one of the amazing features of TiddlyWiki
>

>From Wikipedia:

> Rhizome is a philosophical concept developed by Gilles Deleuze and Félix 
> Guattari in their Capitalism and Schizophrenia (1972–1980) project. It is 
> what Deleuze calls an "image of thought," based on the botanical rhizome, 
> that apprehends multiplicities
>

Regards
Mohamed Amin
On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 4:13:24 PM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> I tagged this as "offtopic", but I don't think it is.
>
> Computing emerged in a context of being able to take something apart and 
> reassemble it in a better way and with calculation.
>
> The prior philosophical ideas behind it emerged partly from extreme ideas 
> like those of  Julien Offray de La Mettrie 
>  in 1748 with 
> "*Man 
> a Machine*."
>
> The idea that life can be reduced to "re-combinational parts" got much 
> stronger in 1818 with Mary Shelly's "Frankenstein 
> ", a seriously good literary 
> expression of Mettrie's thesis. 
>
> Originally seen as repulsive and horrific, the idea you could re-combine 
> bits into wholes is now very accepted. *Google is a large Frankenstein.*
>
> I personally like the "TW Fragment" approach Jeremy is very committed 
> to--but its a direct assault on holism.
>
> There is a deep philosophical PROBLEM with fragments---as with any strong 
> approach. 
>
> *HOW small is a good fragment? And how would you know?*
>
>
> Thoughts
> TT 
>

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[tw5] Re: [Thoughts] The Philosophy of "Units" & TW "data"

The find macro can be used for this purpose!
It actually can extract any part of tiddler delimited between any set of 
delimiters of your choice!



On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 6:43:39 PM UTC+4:30, coda coder wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 7:25:33 AM UTC-5, PMario wrote:
>>
>> On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 4:50:11 PM UTC+2, coda coder wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>> So, in my view...
>>>
>>> A "good fragment" is, *generally speaking,* something that "belongs" in 
>>> a field.
>>>
>>
>> I do like the quotes around your "belongs"!
>>
>
> Yep. ;) 
>
>
>> IMO with TW5 this is a technical reason and it shouldn't be that way. ... 
>> It should be much more user friendly. 
>>
>>
> Agreed. I too think we lost something when TWC's heading-sections didn't 
> make it into the TW5 model.
>
> I do use custom tags to create a poor-man's version of sections within a 
> text - but individual addressability is not possible.
>
> In my dreams, this would work:
>
> {{tiddler-name[!!optional-field]..section-name}}
>
> And in markup...
>
> \define-section my-section
>
> Stuff and things
>
> \end
>
> Or, perhaps,
>
> 
>
> More stuff
>
> 
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [Thoughts] The Philosophy of "Units" & TW "data"



On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 7:25:33 AM UTC-5, PMario wrote:
>
> On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 4:50:11 PM UTC+2, coda coder wrote:
> ...
>
>> So, in my view...
>>
>> A "good fragment" is, *generally speaking,* something that "belongs" in 
>> a field.
>>
>
> I do like the quotes around your "belongs"!
>

Yep. ;) 


> IMO with TW5 this is a technical reason and it shouldn't be that way. ... 
> It should be much more user friendly. 
>
>
Agreed. I too think we lost something when TWC's heading-sections didn't 
make it into the TW5 model.

I do use custom tags to create a poor-man's version of sections within a 
text - but individual addressability is not possible.

In my dreams, this would work:

{{tiddler-name[!!optional-field]]..section-name}}

And in markup...

\define-section my-section

Stuff and things

\end

Or, perhaps,



More stuff





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[tw5] Any way to calculate "6 days from now" using core tools?

Or better yet, "6 days from given date."

Yes, I know there are plugins to allow additional math abilities.

But is there any way to do date math with existing core tools? Since there 
are a bunch of new math tools? I didn't see anything
that looked like it could do date math, but maybe I'm missing something?

In particular, I'd like to calculate  6, 10, 90 days out.

Thanks!

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[tw5] Re: Link to a Tiddler in a "local" TiddlyWiki file

2019-08-20 Thread Mohamed Amin

Thanks kat for your reply, but I did try to add the "fill:///" part after 
the "Permalink", and it doesn't work in the case of "Local files", It works 
ONLY if the target TiddlyWiki is hosted in a "HTTP Server"

On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 3:46:06 PM UTC+2, kat wrote:
>
> If you are working in the browser I think you need to prepend "file:///" 
> to the path.
>
> For example:
>
> [ext[myLink|file:///D:/TW02#MyTiddler00]]
>
> This is the path you get when you select "Permalink" from the tiddler menu.
>
> On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 11:55:52 PM UTC+1, Mohamed Amin wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I've tried to figure this out reading some old cases , but I failed (I 
>> just meet TW5 2 months ago), so I appreciate your support here.
>>
>> Suppose that I've 2 TW5 files (TW01 and TW02), I'm trying to put a link 
>> in "TW01" so when I click that link it should open the "TW02" file and show 
>> a Tiddler named "MyTiddler00", I've tried the following:-
>>
>>
>>1. If the "TW02" is hosted in a "http server", and I use the link = 
>>[[myLink|http://TW02/#MyTiddler00]] , the link is working perfect and 
>>the TW02 is opened with the correct Tiddler MyTiddler00
>>2. If the "TW02" is stored locally (i.e. in drive "D:"), and I use 
>>the link = [ext[myLink|D:/TW02/#MyTiddler00]] , Nothing is happened (No 
>>response)
>>3. If the "TW02" is stored locally (i.e. in drive "D:"), and I use 
>>the link = [ext[myLink|D:/TW02#MyTiddler00]] (removing the LAST forward 
>>slash before the "#" sign), the file "TW02" is open BUT with the 
>> "default" 
>>tiddler (ex. HelloThere)
>>
>>
>> So, did I miss something here?
>>
>> Thanks in Advance
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Link to a Tiddler in a "local" TiddlyWiki file

2019-08-20 Thread Mohamed Amin

Thanks a lot Tony for your reply/information,

So, in my case where I use only local file stored in my Hard disk (with 
Tiddly Desktop or directly in a Browser), I need to wait till this feature 
is implemented. is that correct?

On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 5:55:14 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> I too have a lot of links to other TiddlyWiki elements. Recently I was 
> thinking I would like to simplify this. 
>
> If you use a html link of the form 
> http://192.168.1.81/Instances/TW5Reference.html#Align%20Top%20middle%20bottom
> "  target="wikiname">Align Top middle bottom
> The link will always open in the same tab with the same target="wikiname"
>
>
> It would be nice if we could capture a link to a tiddler in another wiki 
> such as my example
>
> http://192.168.1.81/Instances/TW5Reference.html#Align%20Top%20middle%20bottom
>
> And automatically craft  a link by extracting from the above
>
>- The full path to the wiki 
>http://192.168.1.81/Instances/TW5Reference.html
>- The Wikis name TW5Reference and set the target to this name
>- The specific tiddlers name "Align Top middle bottom"
>- Then display the link as something like "TW5Reference:Align Top 
>middle bottom" (Much more readable)
>- That on click would open in the named tiddler in the named wiki with 
>in a target tab by the name of the wiki
>
> This would improve readability of the link in wiki text, always open 
> references to tiddlers in the same tab (unless you "open in new tab") 
> stopping a proliferation of tabs and reducing the chance that changes in 
> one tab will overwrite changes in another tab.
>
> I submitted an Issue in Github for this 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/4183
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 8:55:52 AM UTC+10, Mohamed Amin wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I've tried to figure this out reading some old cases , but I failed (I 
>> just meet TW5 2 months ago), so I appreciate your support here.
>>
>> Suppose that I've 2 TW5 files (TW01 and TW02), I'm trying to put a link 
>> in "TW01" so when I click that link it should open the "TW02" file and show 
>> a Tiddler named "MyTiddler00", I've tried the following:-
>>
>>
>>1. If the "TW02" is hosted in a "http server", and I use the link = 
>>[[myLink|http://TW02/#MyTiddler00]] , the link is working perfect and 
>>the TW02 is opened with the correct Tiddler MyTiddler00
>>2. If the "TW02" is stored locally (i.e. in drive "D:"), and I use 
>>the link = [ext[myLink|D:/TW02/#MyTiddler00]] , Nothing is happened (No 
>>response)
>>3. If the "TW02" is stored locally (i.e. in drive "D:"), and I use 
>>the link = [ext[myLink|D:/TW02#MyTiddler00]] (removing the LAST forward 
>>slash before the "#" sign), the file "TW02" is open BUT with the 
>> "default" 
>>tiddler (ex. HelloThere)
>>
>>
>> So, did I miss something here?
>>
>> Thanks in Advance
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [Thoughts] The Philosophy of "Units" & TW "data"

2019-08-20 Thread PMario

On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 4:50:11 PM UTC+2, coda coder wrote:
...

> So, in my view...
>
> A "good fragment" is, *generally speaking,* something that "belongs" in a 
> field.
>

I do like the quotes around your "belongs"!

IMO with TW5 this is a technical reason and it shouldn't be that way. ... 
It should be much more user friendly. 

-m

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[tw5] Re: [Thoughts] The Philosophy of "Units" & TW "data"

2019-08-20 Thread PMario

Hi,

With TW5 we can transclude full tiddlers "only".

With TWclassic we had so called "slices" and "sections"
that could be
transcluded from "other" tiddlers.

Transclude "slices" syntax is basically gone in TW5. The file format is
used for .multids files and dictionary tiddlers. .multids are "read-only"
and therefore only useable for TW developers.

The "section" transclusion syntax is used for TW5 data-tiddlers *but the
concept is completely different*, which as Jeremy pointed out several
times, hasn't been the best decision.

With section transclusions, users could transclude parts of one tiddler
into an other, using "*headings" as the selectors*. -->> Don't understand
me wrong: There where some reasons, why this function is gone. Technically
it's much more heavy weight then transcluding full tiddlers.

*And *it suffers the "*broken link syndrome*" even more than renaming
tiddler titles. ... Since it is very common to change the heading text
while editing a tiddler. -> So those links are broken way to easy!!

*On the other hand *there was something extremely powerful going on, while
writing content. Headings do create data structure, even if the writer
didn't intend it.

eg: Authors use headings like *Overview - Introduction - Description *-
very often. ... So over time, tiddlers contain sections with "similar"
intention more and more often.

So after several refactoring iterations of a wiki, users did create very
powerful *intrinsic data-structure*, that can be used to create - *lists
with section content*.

With TW5 this *natural *creation of data structures is gone. ... I
personally miss this functionality the most in TW5. This was a real
regression.

eg: *Mixing code and prose documentation in 1 tiddler *like in a TWclassic
plugin, was the most important thing that brought me to TiddlyWiki. I was
searching for a "literate programming
" tool / editor. ...
And TW was the closest thing I could find and actually *liked*!

Coming back to the topic.

There is a deep philosophical PROBLEM with fragments---as with any strong
> approach.
>
> *HOW small is a good fragment? And how would you know?*
>
>
IMO good fragments go down to *a single paragraph, without tearing it apart
from it's "initial" context*. ... So it's the "tiddler section", without
it's drawbacks.

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Tiddlywiki 5 and GitHub Saver: Create online website using Tiddlywiki 5.1.20+