[tw5] Re: Saving on Git hub

[TonyM]

Eric,

Thanks for that tip. I followed the instructions from Tiddlywiki.com and it 
seems to be pre github pages.

Regards
Tony



On Thursday, November 28, 2019 at 5:58:34 PM UTC+11, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> I am not so sure if and how to provide a link to others to open my wiki 
>> online nor if I could avoid contention if I downloaded another copy 
>> somewhere.
>>
>
> You can't open the wiki directly from a regular repo on GitHub.  To do 
> that, you need to set up GitHub Pages (https://pages.github.com/) and 
> then save your changes to that repo.
>
> -e
>
>

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[tw5] Re: The last word in Saving?

[TonyM]

Folks and Jed,

I will soon publish a Demo "First Encounter" Wiki and would love your 
feedback.

The details are as follows;

   - Single File HTML file hosted on a readonly (To visitors) internet 
   facing server.
   - Browser Local storage activated, 
   - Default save hidden.
   - A Save Changes button that will save only recent changes and local 
   storage items to a file
   - Bob Filesaver installed and active (but will not do anything if no 
   bobserver running).
   - Advice on installing BobEXE from Jed's releases page
  - Observation Windows says *Unknown Publisher* when installing Bob, I 
  wonder how to stop this?
  - For windows 10 I have described at least one way to load BobEXE at 
  User login to windows.
   - Once installed the internet facing wiki can be saved with the default 
   saver to any location if the browser permits. Or  (Download and Move).
  - I then want to leave a reminder that they saved a copy to file in 
  the online local storage, and possibly the ability to save a link to the 
  local copy.
   - Double clicking the file will open in the default browser and saves 
   will now be permitted.

Jed,

As you know BobEXE loads at 127.0.0.0:8080 with its default wiki, and my 
Downloaded single file wiki at file://C:/path/tiddlywiki.html on Bob saver 
server running on 127.0.0.1:61192

When Using the Bob saver plugin

   - For someone intentionally installing bob for all its features it is 
   good that the default wiki loads
   - In this case of the Bob saver plugin it would be nice if it did not 
   load, but the downloaded wiki could instead provide the link to the default 
   wiki.
   - I am concerned for new users they will get confused thinking the 
   default bob wiki is the one they downloaded, as its the only one that opens 
   by default.
   - I can't however see a way around this unless there was a different 
   bobEXE or a command line parameter

What do you think Jed?

Thanks all 
Tony

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[tw5] Re: How do I display nested transclusion within a codeblock?

[Branimir Braykov]

Yes, it seems is the wikify moment I was missing.
By codeblock I mean the CodeBlockWidget or just to have this text in  
tags and have the exactly as this is made in tiddlywiki.com. Examples are 
all in a codeblock with the option to copy it to the clipboard, the button 
properly aligned to the top right of the text. Minus the Try button part.

On Thursday, November 28, 2019 at 1:33:10 AM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Not sure what you mean by "codeblock" in this context.
>
> But if you were using the copy-to-clipboard macro, then you could wikify 
> the text first:
>
> <$wikify name="copyme" text={{!!c}}>
> <$macrocall $name="copy-to-clipboard" src=<>/>
> 
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 2:39:36 PM UTC-8, Branimir Braykov 
> wrote:
>>
>> I have problems figuring out how to (properly) achieve the following:
>> I have a tiddler called "test". There are 3 fields in it:
>>
>>- field a = abc
>>- field b = def
>>But
>>- field c = {{!!a}}-concat-{{!!b}}
>>
>> When I just test with transclude, field c as {{test!!c}} in another 
>> tiddler I see the rendered concatenated value: abc-concat-def. But if I 
>> try to put it in a codeblock widget I get this its definition: 
>> {{!!a}}-concat-{{!!b}}.
>>
>> Now what I eventually want is to display the value of test!!c within a 
>> codeblock with a copy-to-clipboard button.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Saving on Git hub

[Eric Shulman]

>
> I am not so sure if and how to provide a link to others to open my wiki 
> online nor if I could avoid contention if I downloaded another copy 
> somewhere.
>

You can't open the wiki directly from a regular repo on GitHub.  To do 
that, you need to set up GitHub Pages (https://pages.github.com/) and then 
save your changes to that repo.

-e

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[tw5] Saving on Git hub

[TonyM]

Folks,

I am evaluating the gitHub method of saving. I have a whole Tiddlywiki 
here https://github.com/AnthonyMuscio/gitwiki/tree/master/wiki in index.html

I have a local file copy with all the GitHub details in it and I can open 
edit and save this. Great so far.

I am not so sure if and how to provide a link to others to open my wiki 
online nor if I could avoid contention if I downloaded another copy 
somewhere.

Any simple advice appreciated.

Thanks
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Dumb Question? How to combine Tags?

[bimlas]

Juri,

Is there a default way to select a combination of tags so that only the 
> tiddlers with said combination are shown? Or how can I get a list with 
> Checkboxes to do this?
>

You may also be interested in this:

https://bimlas.gitlab.io/tw5-locator/ 

Search for tags by name, filter tiddlers by custom tag intersections

 

You can use the search box to search for tags by name in the Tags tab. For 
example, you remember a sauce recipe that could be used for chicken dishes, 
so you search for "sauce" and click on the tag icon next to sauces in the 
list because you are sure you added this tag to the tiddler (so it's a 
direct tag) and then search for "chicken", and you click the chain icon 
next to chicken in the list because you only know that it is related to the 
chicken topic somewhere, but you do not know the depth (ancestor tag).

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[tw5] Re: convert yyyymmdd to days from another date (now)

[TonyM]

Dave,

Search for day-diff using advanced search and see if you can find where it 
is defined, this may give you the list of parameter names to use, you may 
see them in a 
\define day-dif(parameter names)

Or a Jave script list of variable names.

*Teach a man to fish...*

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, November 28, 2019 at 4:34:24 PM UTC+11, Dave wrote:
>
> Jed:  I finally figured out that your day-diff macro does what I need, 
> i.e. I can do this
> <> days
>
> to get the number of days between those dates, 
>
>
> but I can't figure out the macrocall to do the same using field contents:
> <$macrocall $name="day-diff" param1={{!!due2}} param2={{mynow!!mynow2}}/> 
> days
>
> I don't know what to call the parameters in the macro so I can use my 
> field based dates. 
>
> Is this doable with this type of macro?
>

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[tw5] Re: convert yyyymmdd to days from another date (now)

[Dave]

Jed:  I finally figured out that your day-diff macro does what I need, i.e. 
I can do this
<> days

to get the number of days between those dates, 


but I can't figure out the macrocall to do the same using field contents:
<$macrocall $name="day-diff" param1={{!!due2}} param2={{mynow!!mynow2}}/> 
days

I don't know what to call the parameters in the macro so I can use my field 
based dates. 

Is this doable with this type of macro?

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] New Plugin: BobSaver, using Bob as a saver for single file wikis

[TonyM]

Stephan,

See my previous post for another approach. The shortcut is set to open 
minimised.

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 5:53:05 PM UTC+11, Stefan Pfister wrote:
>
> Thanks it works fine on linux. 
>
> Am Sonntag, 24. November 2019 13:58:49 UTC+1 schrieb Jed Carty:
>>
>> Stefan,
>>
>> yes, you can suppress the browser opening. I will add a checkbox in the 
>> control panel for this in the next version, but for now you need to edit 
>> the manual settings.
>>
>
> On windows10 the 64bit-bobexe opens a terminal window and shows some 
> messages of the node.js. It stays open all the time when bobwin.exe is 
> running. 
> I stumbled across this workaround: 
> https://superuser.com/questions/198525/how-can-i-execute-a-windows-command-line-in-background
>
>
> Dim WinScriptHost
> Set WinScriptHost = CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
> WinScriptHost.Run Chr(34) & "C:\Scheduled Jobs\mybat.bat" & Chr(34), 0
> Set WinScriptHost = Nothing
>
>
> Just a few lines of vbs to start a prog invisible. It works but why is 
> this necessary? It should be easier. Big benefit: I can use Tiddlywiki 
> quick and fast on the slow SurfaceGo. TiddlyDesktop is here very clumsy. 
> The cpu is slow. I teach a whole class which uses surfacego tablets.
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] New Plugin: BobSaver, using Bob as a saver for single file wikis

[TonyM]

Jed,

The simplest way I have found so far to instruct someone to place bob in 
the startup on Windows (10) is as follows

   - Download BobWin.exe to an appropriate folder such as C:/MyPrograms/Bob
   - R-click the BobWin.exe and select create shortcut, Rename the shortcut 
   how you like
   - Optionally R-click Properties on the Shortcut, Select Run Minimised
   - Now R-click the shortcut and select cut
   - Now in the Windows Command type run*then* shell:startup 
   A new Explorer window will open focused on your startup folder
   - Click on a blank part of the Startup window and r-click paste (to 
   place the shortcut here)

You can double click on the shortcut and test it now, and this will 
automatically load next time you login. Any new wikis will be created below 
the location of the BobWin.exe.

Regards
Tony

Since bobwin is its own executable and it is not an installer as I 
understand it these instructions may be the best to use. It is possible to 
create a registry file and insert bobwin.exe in the registry that way so if 
you ever revisit the design of BobWin.exe let me know and I can provide the 
instructions.

Thanks
Tony

On Sunday, November 24, 2019 at 2:33:16 PM UTC+11, TonyM wrote:
>
> Jed
>
> I will provide one or more methods to add bob.exe to load on startup on 
> windows. You can choose what suits you.
>
> Regards
> Tony 
>
>

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[tw5] Re: convert yyyymmdd to days from another date (now)

[Dave]

Thank you Jed and Mark.  

I'll try some copy pasta and post back if I get something to work :) 

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[tw5] Re: The last word in Saving?

[TonyM]

Mark,

At Glich.com https://glitch.com/~tiddlywiki-stuff it reads


Go to the .env file if you wanna control who can has read/write access to 
the TiddlyWiki. Maybe change the SERVEROPTS-line to something along the 
lines of:

SERVEROPTS="readers=(anon) writers=joe username=joe password=bloggs"

But like with different username and password probably. See 
https://tiddlywiki.com/static/WebServer.html for details and more options.



On Thursday, November 28, 2019 at 9:45:06 AM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Does it work offline?
> Is it private? Secure?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 1:51:35 PM UTC-8, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I think there is one solution missing here: *Glitch.*
>> (I read most of the posts but not all.)
>>
>> Personally I went with this solution by Jonas some time ago: 
>> https://glitch.com/~tiddlywiki-stuff
>>
>> Pros
>>
>>- pure online solution, no local installation at all (use any browser 
>>you already have)
>>- accessible from anywhere with any device (as long as you are online)
>>- pre-configured solutions can be made available and ready to copy 
>>(remix in Glitch terminology)
>>- relatively fast to set up compared to other server/online solutions
>>
>> Cons
>>
>>- not beginner friendly if you e.g. want to restrict editing
>>- not too fast (server goes to sleep and needs time to wake up)
>>- there might be others ...
>>
>> I will have to experiment more and as stated above, I am just a user 
>> (remixer) not the author. 
>>
>> Just wanted to let you know.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Thomas
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: How do I display nested transclusion within a codeblock?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Not sure what you mean by "codeblock" in this context.

But if you were using the copy-to-clipboard macro, then you could wikify 
the text first:

<$wikify name="copyme" text={{!!c}}>
<$macrocall $name="copy-to-clipboard" src=<>/>



On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 2:39:36 PM UTC-8, Branimir Braykov wrote:
>
> I have problems figuring out how to (properly) achieve the following:
> I have a tiddler called "test". There are 3 fields in it:
>
>- field a = abc
>- field b = def
>But
>- field c = {{!!a}}-concat-{{!!b}}
>
> When I just test with transclude, field c as {{test!!c}} in another 
> tiddler I see the rendered concatenated value: abc-concat-def. But if I 
> try to put it in a codeblock widget I get this its definition: 
> {{!!a}}-concat-{{!!b}}.
>
> Now what I eventually want is to display the value of test!!c within a 
> codeblock with a copy-to-clipboard button.
>

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[tw5] Re: The last word in Saving?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Does it work offline?
Is it private? Secure?

Thanks!


On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 1:51:35 PM UTC-8, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I think there is one solution missing here: *Glitch.*
> (I read most of the posts but not all.)
>
> Personally I went with this solution by Jonas some time ago: 
> https://glitch.com/~tiddlywiki-stuff
>
> Pros
>
>- pure online solution, no local installation at all (use any browser 
>you already have)
>- accessible from anywhere with any device (as long as you are online)
>- pre-configured solutions can be made available and ready to copy 
>(remix in Glitch terminology)
>- relatively fast to set up compared to other server/online solutions
>
> Cons
>
>- not beginner friendly if you e.g. want to restrict editing
>- not too fast (server goes to sleep and needs time to wake up)
>- there might be others ...
>
> I will have to experiment more and as stated above, I am just a user 
> (remixer) not the author. 
>
> Just wanted to let you know.
>
> All the best,
> Thomas
>

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[tw5] How do I display nested transclusion within a codeblock?

[Branimir Braykov]

I have problems figuring out how to (properly) achieve the following:
I have a tiddler called "test". There are 3 fields in it:

   - field a = abc
   - field b = def
   But
   - field c = {{!!a}}-concat-{{!!b}}

When I just test with transclude, field c as {{test!!c}} in another tiddler 
I see the rendered concatenated value: abc-concat-def. But if I try to put 
it in a codeblock widget I get this its definition: {{!!a}}-concat-{{!!b}}.

Now what I eventually want is to display the value of test!!c within a 
codeblock with a copy-to-clipboard button.

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[tw5] Re: The penultimate words on saving - multi access and multi user

[TonyM]

Thanks Thomas,

It is amazing how many alternate implementations and delivery mechanisms 
are available for tiddlyWiki. I will look behind the scenes of Glitch. I 
suppose what you are raising here is providing TiddlyWiki as a service 
TWaaS which has being hinted at a few times. Lets prepare a basic overview 
of the method and background to using Glitch to fully add it to the options 
here.

Et al..

Given Bobs new Saver plugin (I am still to test) and the ease of a bob.exe 
install, I was experimenting a little, of course Bob can be available on 
your network, perhaps one that your mobile can access, or any device that 
can be on your internal network. I note that in fact that a bob wiki can 
remain operational in the Mobile browser even when disconnected (Perhaps an 
alternate less imposing reconnect button would help) with a little 
experimenting I think the local storage plugin may help a user return to 
the wiki while off line, and of course Bob is good at reconnecting and 
resolving conflicts. The advantage here is it is a next step from The last 
word in Saving? 


Regards
Tony

On Thursday, November 28, 2019 at 9:10:19 AM UTC+11, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hi, 
>
> I just mentioned Glitch in the other thread 
> , as 
> it was *relatively* simple to set up and I could imagine using it in a 
> starter course for the first lesson(s) or steps, before people download 
> their single file wiki and proceed in a local environment. 
>
> But – without knowing about multi user capabilities or simultaneous access 
> options – it might qualify for second or third kind encounters too. It runs 
> on a server in the cloud and thus is a multi-device solution. Hope you 
> agree.
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas
>
> On Sunday, November 24, 2019 at 11:41:02 PM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>>
>>
>>- *Third = Delivered on a platform that permits multi-access or 
>>multi-user (simultaneously)*
>>
>> Using multi-access and Multi-user implementations of Tiddlywiki can also 
>> be extended to multi-device solutions. [...]  or single file based wikis 
>> stored on a cloud service such as Google Drive, Microsoft One Drive, 
>> Dropbox and more. 
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: The penultimate words on saving - multi access and multi user

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi, 

I just mentioned Glitch in the other thread 
, as 
it was *relatively* simple to set up and I could imagine using it in a 
starter course for the first lesson(s) or steps, before people download 
their single file wiki and proceed in a local environment. 

But – without knowing about multi user capabilities or simultaneous access 
options – it might qualify for second or third kind encounters too. It runs 
on a server in the cloud and thus is a multi-device solution. Hope you 
agree.

Cheers,
Thomas

On Sunday, November 24, 2019 at 11:41:02 PM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
>
>- *Third = Delivered on a platform that permits multi-access or 
>multi-user (simultaneously)*
>
> Using multi-access and Multi-user implementations of Tiddlywiki can also 
> be extended to multi-device solutions. [...]  or single file based wikis 
> stored on a cloud service such as Google Drive, Microsoft One Drive, 
> Dropbox and more. 
>
>

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[tw5] Re: The last word in Saving?

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi all,

I think there is one solution missing here: *Glitch.*
(I read most of the posts but not all.)

Personally I went with this solution by Jonas some time ago: 
https://glitch.com/~tiddlywiki-stuff

Pros

   - pure online solution, no local installation at all (use any browser 
   you already have)
   - accessible from anywhere with any device (as long as you are online)
   - pre-configured solutions can be made available and ready to copy 
   (remix in Glitch terminology)
   - relatively fast to set up compared to other server/online solutions
   
Cons

   - not beginner friendly if you e.g. want to restrict editing
   - not too fast (server goes to sleep and needs time to wake up)
   - there might be others ...

I will have to experiment more and as stated above, I am just a user 
(remixer) not the author. 

Just wanted to let you know.

All the best,
Thomas

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[tw5] Re: VCF Import Tiddler Quandary

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi, I am sorry for the confusion. 

I guess when I was hacking this together I had the ambition to turn it into 
a plugins at some time in the future. But that future never came. 

All the best,
Thomas

It is:  $:/plugins/telmiger/contacts/qr-tid
>
> But upon import in the dedicated TW5 file, it imports but does not show in 
> theControl Panel > Plugins window.
>

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[tw5] Re: convert yyyymmdd to days from another date (now)

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

BTW, if you wanted to date manipulations without JS, with the help of Mat 
and others, we came up with these below. The
problem with the date filters in TW, is that they don't form a complete kit 
of the things you would want to do with dates.

\define g(y,m,d,offset:"0")
<$set name=m value={{{ [<__m__>add[9]remainder[12]] }}}>
<$set name=y value={{{ [divide[10]floor[]negate[]add<__y__>] }}} >
<$set name=y4 value={{{ [divide[4]floor[]] }}}>
<$set name=y100 value={{{ [divide[100]floor[]] }}}>
<$set name=y400 value={{{ [divide[400]floor[]] }}}>
<$set name=m306 value={{{ [multiply[306]add[5]divide[10]floor[]] }}}>
<$set name=result value={{{ [[365]multiplyaddsubtractadd
addadd[$d$]add[$offset$]subtract[1]] }}} >
<>

\end


\define d(g)
<$set name=daysperyear value="365.2425">

<$set name=y value={{{ [[1]multiply<__g__>add[14780]divide[3652425]floor
[]] }}}>

<$set name=y4 value={{{ [divide[4]floor[]] }}}>
<$set name=y100 value={{{ [divide[100]floor[]] }}}>
<$set name=y400 value={{{ [divide[400]floor[]] }}}>
<$set name=dddtest value={{{ [[365]multiplyaddsubtractadd
negate[]add<__g__>] }}} >
<$set name=prioryear value={{{ [subtract[1]] }}} >
<$set name=y value={{{ [prefix[-]then] [!prefix
[-]then] }}} >
<$set name=ddd value={{{ [[365]multiplyaddsubtractadd
negate[]add<__g__>] }}} >

<$set name=mi value={{{ [[100]multiplyadd[52]divide[3060]floor[]] }}} >

<$set name=mm value={{{ [add[2]remainder[12]add[1]] }}} >

<$set name=y value={{{ [add[2]divide[12]floor[]add] }}} >

<$set name=dd value={{{ [multiply[306]add[5]divide[10]floor[]negate[]add
add[1]] }}} >
<>, <>, <> 

\end

\define daysfrom(y,m,d,o) 
<$wikify name=future text="<>">
<$macrocall $name="d" g=<>/>

\end

Days from: <>



On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 11:27:38 AM UTC-8, Dave wrote:
>
> okay, so I managed to get this javascript running:
> function daydiff() { 
> var date1 = new Date("7/13/2010");
> var date2 = new Date("12/15/2010");
> var timeDiff = Math.abs(date2.getTime() - date1.getTime());
> var diffDays = Math.ceil(timeDiff / (1000 * 3600 * 24));
> return diffDays
> } 
> console.log(daydiff()) 
>
> I put that in a myscript.js, and at the terminal ran "node myscript.js" 
> and it spit out "156" on the next line.
>
> How would that translate into TW5?
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: convert yyyymmdd to days from another date (now)

[Jed Carty]

I think that an example is going to be better than anything I could say, 
here are some of the date things I made before, they don't match what you 
are asking for but they should show how to make the javascript work in 
tiddlywiki.

https://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/DateMacros/

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[tw5] Re: convert yyyymmdd to days from another date (now)

[Dave]

okay, so I managed to get this javascript running:
function daydiff() { 
var date1 = new Date("7/13/2010");
var date2 = new Date("12/15/2010");
var timeDiff = Math.abs(date2.getTime() - date1.getTime());
var diffDays = Math.ceil(timeDiff / (1000 * 3600 * 24));
return diffDays
} 
console.log(daydiff()) 

I put that in a myscript.js, and at the terminal ran "node myscript.js" and 
it spit out "156" on the next line.

How would that translate into TW5?


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[tw5] Re: Mohammad Are you there?

[TiddlyTweeter]

If you go to my resource post: Mohammad's Wikis 
 they 
seem to work fine.

I tested all listed 11 wiki and they came up. I don't think his 
achievements are disappearing any time soon! :-)

TT


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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

[Chuck R.]

Very nice, thank you Alan! I have some questions.

What's the minimum version of TW5 that is required to use this? 
Can this be added to the main wiki at http://tiddlywiki.com as a tool or 
addon? 
I was writing in markdown for my tiddlers but this might be the reason I 
convert to writing in TW.

Very odd, I'm not seeing my questions turned into bullets.

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

[Victor Dorneanu]

Hi Alan,

i'm wondering if it's possible to have every column "in-line editable"? 
Additionally I wanted to know how to use a different ViewTemplate 
especially for the tags column? Thanks in advance.

Cheers, 
Victor

On Monday, September 9, 2019 at 9:01:41 PM UTC+2, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the 
> community. First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for creating 
> TiddlyWiki and everyone who supports it. As a way to learn the ins and outs 
> of TiddlyWiki I started a "table builder" plugin that I have been gradually 
> improving in my spare time. I finally got around to finishing it up 
> recently and would like to share it with the community. 
>
> The ability for the entire wiki to import/export to/from a spreadsheet is 
> a fascinating feature of TiddlyWiki, and I wanted to build on that strength 
> by creating a simple way to query data in the wiki and display it in a 
> tabular way. I am calling it TiddlyTables. The following link contains 
> installation instructions and examples:
>
> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> There is also a "task manager" plugin that can be downloaded. Its primary 
> purpose is to demonstrate the features of TiddlyTables. I look forward to 
> hearing from you. I will do my best to answer questions and I appreciate 
> any feedback. 
>
> Thanks,
> Alan Aldrich
>

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[tw5] Re: Mohammad Are you there?

[A Gloom]

>
>
> Let's hope he is back online soon.
>  
>

My wishes are for his safety, if you knew my background, I'm not worried 
about his Internet but other matters of the situation there are worrisome-- 
now you know why such a silly seeming individual as me goes by Gloom...

TWScripts is still up, so we haven't lost all his work... and reinforces 
what Sy has said

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