[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[A Gloom]

They are doing an preemptive closing of schools (for disinfecting it seems) 
as the cases start increasing in my area...

i'm watching in a mixture of habitual interest (if I was still working, I 
would be in the thick of it-- my profession was to protect society and my 
fellow citizens) and detached indifference (don't feel like a part of 
society and I'm just lingering)-- but I won't have to watch people suffer 
and die-- my rage against the dying of the light is spent and the Gods, 
Sumpreme Beings and the Universe were indifferent to my protests-- and 
perhaps fatalism, I may be relieved of my burdens

As someone that had to try to carry out emergency measures-- I think 
Mohammad's initial idea was good but perhaps not rely solely on people 
finding it online but use "grassroots" dissemination-- people are more 
likely to listen to family, friends, pop culture than authority figures.

As for official action, I weigh in on reverse quarantine-- isolate (to 
protect) the vulenerible parts of society while the virus runs its 
inevitable course (there's not realistic detection and therefor tracking of 
the virus' spread to be able to contain it).  One of the first places the 
virus hit in the US was a nursing home and it was like throwing gasoline on 
a fire.

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[tw5] Re: TiddlySpot app server written in ColdFusion

[Morgaine O'Herne]

I actually have an online server that I was thinking about installing 
node.js on so I could host tiddlywikis.  Would ColdFusion be a good 
alternative to node.js? Would it maybe be easier to install and use by 
someone who has never used either?

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 4:04:59 PM UTC-6, David wrote:
>
> ColdFusion is not used very much these days, compared to .Net, PHP and 
> such, and some of you may never have heard of it.  But it's still in active 
> development, and popular in government/state work especially, since a surge 
> in the mid-90s.
>
> * File Save - I've got a CFM file that is taking the TW file and saving it 
> to the storage location, so that a browser can just reload and get the most 
> current one.  Works on mobile browsers too as you would imagine.
>
> * Does simple backups.
>
> * saves in location specified in the TiddlySpot dialog/config.
>
> Adding more features as time goes on.  
>
> Will get the code up on GitHub at some point, but I doubt any of you have 
> your own ColdFusion hosted site.  I'm sure there's no one clamoring for it, 
> but I thought I'd drop a note here anyway.
>
> I'm sure I'll be aksing more questions here about how to structure the 
> info that is returned back to the TW instance tha is running in the current 
> browser.
>

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[tw5] Re: Tony's Tiny Tips

[A Gloom]

>
> Oh thanks A Gloom, I was wondering how to add filter like this in Advanced 
> Search :)
>
> For example to search *empty tiddler* :
>
> [!is[system]!has[text]] 
>
>  YW and thank you-- I put your cool idea to immadiate use-- not only as a 
Advanced Search filter but as a selection in the More tab-- so now I can 
check for drafts, orphans and tiddlers with empty text fields-- which may 
be tiddlers that were created as placeholders when created and may need to 
be completed by puttig content into them.

create a tiddler named $:/core/ui/MoreSideBar/Empty
(using %$:/core may not be suggested but using 
$:/unique_name/ui/MoreSideBar/Empty)

tiddler text field: <$list filter={{$:/core/Filters/EmptyTextFld!!filter}} 
template="$:/core/ui/MissingTemplate"/>

your filter is there

caption field: Empty

tag it: $:/tags/MoreSideBar

it will appear at the end of the list of selections, to change the order, 
change position in the list field of $:/tags/MoreSideBar

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[tw5] Re: Tony's Tiny Tips

[David Gifford]

Nice tips, Tony!

On Monday, March 9, 2020 at 5:34:38 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> We often discover useful little TiddlyWiki tips but tend only to share 
> them when someone asks a relevant Question.
>
> I would like to encourage this sharing so I will kick off with a few
>
> *Control Panel > Info > Basics tips*
>
> *Default tiddlers* If you use "Home [list[$:/StoryList]] in the default 
> tiddlers 
> it will always load the Home tiddler and the previously open tiddlers
>
> *Username for signing edits* this can not only be used as a user name, 
> but you can change it for a particular edit session.
> For example "Tony V0.3 changes" then you can list tiddlers created and 
> modified for that edit session
> Consider clicking on the user name in the tiddler subtitles and defining a 
> more descriptive definition in the resulting "user tiddler"
>
> *Title of new tiddlers *Set to "New {{$:/SiteTitle}} Tiddler" for each 
> new tiddler to include the site title
> For example the Recipes wiki creates new tiddlers titled "New Recipes 
> Tiddler"
>
> Please share you tips too.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>

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[tw5] TiddlySpot app server written in ColdFusion

[David]

ColdFusion is not used very much these days, compared to .Net, PHP and 
such, and some of you may never have heard of it.  But it's still in active 
development, and popular in government/state work especially, since a surge 
in the mid-90s.

* File Save - I've got a CFM file that is taking the TW file and saving it 
to the storage location, so that a browser can just reload and get the most 
current one.  Works on mobile browsers too as you would imagine.

* Does simple backups.

* saves in location specified in the TiddlySpot dialog/config.

Adding more features as time goes on.  

Will get the code up on GitHub at some point, but I doubt any of you have 
your own ColdFusion hosted site.  I'm sure there's no one clamoring for it, 
but I thought I'd drop a note here anyway.

I'm sure I'll be aksing more questions here about how to structure the info 
that is returned back to the TW instance tha is running in the current 
browser.

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[TiddlyTweeter]

Mohammad wrote:
>
> ... Some school classes are broadcasting from TV. Universities uses Moodle 
> or similar tool (like Adobe Connect) to have their virtual classes
>

Very good approach! I don't see that in Italy.
 

> Masks, gloves, and other protective stuffs are not in the market!
>

Here that is not such an issue. Italian suppliers tend to have huge stocks 
of stuff.
 

> Hopefully fruits, vegetables, ... can be purchased easily from bazaar.
>

So far markets for produce are still okay here.

TT

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[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

[CJ Veniot]

Well, as an "intertwingulitis" sufferer, everything is connected to 
everything else by one whole degree of separation.

I'm a foodie and have a warped sense of humour, so usually one degree of 
separation to food and/or wistful wonkiness.

All of that just in case anybody thinks I'm just being sarcastic.  Nah, 
just way-out-o'-left-field thinking and so many dots to connect.

Cheers !

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 4:06:43 PM UTC-3, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> CJ Veniot wrote:
>>
>> Being from Canada I see "tidbit" and I immediately think "H.  
>> Timbits.  Must get to Timmy Ho's ..."
>>
>
> Lol!  I agree getting something that works is difficult!
>
> TT
>
>
>> On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 3:27:07 PM UTC-3, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> Ciao R² ... 

 ... Tiddlers could become tidbits (1. A tasty morsel (of food). 2. 
 (computing, informal) A quarter of a byte (Half of a nybble; two bits). 3. 
 (archaic) A short mention of news or gossip.)

>>>
>>> FYI I have a domain that went for "tidbits" as its less obscure than 
>>> "tiddler".
>>>
>>> Tech point on (3). Actually its not universally archaic. In many US & UK 
>>> contexts "tidbit" still works for "fragment of news, or gossip".
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> TT
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[TiddlyTweeter]

Mohammad wrote:
>
> ... We have several death among doctors, nurses, other medical staff.
>

Right. Awful thing when people who help us die for us. 

That shows how bad it is.

TT

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[Julio Peña]

Oh wow...my prayers for both your countries!

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[Mohammad]

Yes, I was just watched the current Italy situation from BBC. We are the 
same, but most state offices are open with 1/3 of personnel from 8-13.
University and schools are closed by mid April 2020.

The bad news is we have on March 21st our Persian new year (exactly the 
first day of Spring) but with current situation we cannot visit our family 
and have no ceremony!
All the time TV and Radio encourage people to stay at home. We got 100GB 
free internet for next two weeks (funny!)

Some school classes are broadcasting from TV. Universities uses Moodle or 
similar tool (like Adobe Connect) to have their virtual classes.

Masks, gloves, and other protective stuffs are not in the market! Hopefully 
fruits, vegetables, ... can be purchased easily from bazaar.

There is a tough situation. We have several death among doctors, nurses, 
other medical staff.

...

--Mohammad

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 10:30:32 PM UTC+3:30, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Italy is the experiment for Europe.
>
> Iran is the experiment for the Middle East.
>
> Italy now, the whole country (sensibly) opted for "lockdown". NOT because 
> Italy is more infected than elsewhere. Just because you need SLOW 
> transmission to cope and lockdown slows progression.
>
> All schools and universities are closed here in the country. 
>
> No prison visits. IF the virus got into a prison it would devastate it. 
> But it led to riots. Part of the reason of the riots was that prison 
> visitors bring in drugs that are cut off. In the riots several people died 
> from methadone overdose from raiding the prisons' pharmacies. The prison 
> riots were not just about liberty.
>
> All sporting events are banned.
>
> All large collective events other than work are discouraged.
>
> One thing about the coronoavirus worth noting is it very sensitive to 
> heat. 
> Outside the body it dies quickly when the weather is hotter.
> Hot weather helps limit it.
>
> An issue in hospitals is temperature. Hospitals tend to temperate. That 
> itself may be an issue.
>
> In Italy an ill person can only be visited by one named family member. 
> Sensible as hospitals are the worst place for disease transmission.
>
> Just some notes
> TT
>
> On Thursday, 5 March 2020 14:45:47 UTC+1, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Ciao Mohammad
>>
>> The one issue that I think is central is "detection". The real issue is 
>> whether the virus has penetrated society so far it is unstoppable.
>>
>> It is still unclear. 
>>
>> But Italy & Iran are suffering badly from trying to contain it. Both are 
>> acting responsibly with huge social & economic consequences.
>>
>> The next few weeks will show the situation better. 
>>
>> IMO it is much better a society continues to be able to work if it can 
>> and put its resources into looking after the seriously ill, not policing 
>> the healthy.
>>
>> Thoughts
>> TT
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, 5 March 2020 14:17:35 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Josiah,
>>>  Very bad news. Here in Tehran schools and universities are closed and 
>>> will remain closed for next few weeks!
>>>  Everywhere is closed or semi-closed! There is shortage for masks, 
>>> gloves, and disinfectants.
>>>  This is a disaster! 
>>>
>>>  Have you read the book 
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eyes_of_Darkness?
>>>  Strangely the novel explains a similar story like coronavisus in Wuhan 
>>> China.
>>>
>>>  The Wikipedia page described the virus name was Gorki-400 where in the 
>>> reprint in 1989 changed to Wuhan-400.
>>>  
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 5, 2020 at 4:21:54 PM UTC+3:30, TiddlyTweeter wrote:

 Ciao Gloom, Devil's Plaintiff,

 As the coronavirus takes grip in Italy, now, in my immediate area...

 Issues locally are ...

 -- Death rate in Italy are looking High (higher than Iran) mainly 
 because people live very long in Italy; and birth rate is low... result is 
 Higher mortality in vulnerable aged populations.

 -- All schools are closed to the middle of month.

 -- Many towns in Lombardy are on lock-down under virtual martial law. 
 Economically that is a disaster as the North is the centre of net 
 production Italy.

 -- The virus is fulminate, but largely silent, for most infected 
 recover without a beep. Detection is a cornerstone that is likely already 
 uncontrolled (not sure).

 Some broader issue are ...

 -- Is Italy just detecting it better than the rest of Western Europe? 
 Italy started screening & sequestration early.

 -- Is the virus so dispersed yet it is unstoppable? Detection is 
 difficult because you can't test everyone. Most people *don't display 
 marked symptoms*.

 -- Would it be better to switch from sequestration resourcing to 
 palliative care? Let the society continue economic activity regardless?

 I'd say the issue with your alternative advocacy is simply exposure, 
 reach. One needs more than a 

[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[Julio Peña]

Hello TT and all,

Yes, I have been following closely and it real crazy what's happening out 
there.
Hopefully things will subside soon, God willing. :(

Blessings,
Julio

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[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

[TiddlyTweeter]

CJ Veniot wrote:
>
> Being from Canada I see "tidbit" and I immediately think "H.  
> Timbits.  Must get to Timmy Ho's ..."
>

Lol!  I agree getting something that works is difficult!

TT


> On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 3:27:07 PM UTC-3, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Ciao R² ... 
>>>
>>> ... Tiddlers could become tidbits (1. A tasty morsel (of food). 2. 
>>> (computing, informal) A quarter of a byte (Half of a nybble; two bits). 3. 
>>> (archaic) A short mention of news or gossip.)
>>>
>>
>> FYI I have a domain that went for "tidbits" as its less obscure than 
>> "tiddler".
>>
>> Tech point on (3). Actually its not universally archaic. In many US & UK 
>> contexts "tidbit" still works for "fragment of news, or gossip".
>>
>> Best wishes
>> TT
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[TiddlyTweeter]

Italy is the experiment for Europe.

Iran is the experiment for the Middle East.

Italy now, the whole country (sensibly) opted for "lockdown". NOT because 
Italy is more infected than elsewhere. Just because you need SLOW 
transmission to cope and lockdown slows progression.

All schools and universities are closed here in the country. 

No prison visits. IF the virus got into a prison it would devastate it. But 
it led to riots. Part of the reason of the riots was that prison visitors 
bring in drugs that are cut off. In the riots several people died from 
methadone overdose from raiding the prisons' pharmacies. The prison riots 
were not just about liberty.

All sporting events are banned.

All large collective events other than work are discouraged.

One thing about the coronoavirus worth noting is it very sensitive to heat. 
Outside the body it dies quickly when the weather is hotter.
Hot weather helps limit it.

An issue in hospitals is temperature. Hospitals tend to temperate. That 
itself may be an issue.

In Italy an ill person can only be visited by one named family member. 
Sensible as hospitals are the worst place for disease transmission.

Just some notes
TT

On Thursday, 5 March 2020 14:45:47 UTC+1, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao Mohammad
>
> The one issue that I think is central is "detection". The real issue is 
> whether the virus has penetrated society so far it is unstoppable.
>
> It is still unclear. 
>
> But Italy & Iran are suffering badly from trying to contain it. Both are 
> acting responsibly with huge social & economic consequences.
>
> The next few weeks will show the situation better. 
>
> IMO it is much better a society continues to be able to work if it can and 
> put its resources into looking after the seriously ill, not policing the 
> healthy.
>
> Thoughts
> TT
>
>
> On Thursday, 5 March 2020 14:17:35 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Josiah,
>>  Very bad news. Here in Tehran schools and universities are closed and 
>> will remain closed for next few weeks!
>>  Everywhere is closed or semi-closed! There is shortage for masks, 
>> gloves, and disinfectants.
>>  This is a disaster! 
>>
>>  Have you read the book 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eyes_of_Darkness?
>>  Strangely the novel explains a similar story like coronavisus in Wuhan 
>> China.
>>
>>  The Wikipedia page described the virus name was Gorki-400 where in the 
>> reprint in 1989 changed to Wuhan-400.
>>  
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>> On Thursday, March 5, 2020 at 4:21:54 PM UTC+3:30, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> Ciao Gloom, Devil's Plaintiff,
>>>
>>> As the coronavirus takes grip in Italy, now, in my immediate area...
>>>
>>> Issues locally are ...
>>>
>>> -- Death rate in Italy are looking High (higher than Iran) mainly 
>>> because people live very long in Italy; and birth rate is low... result is 
>>> Higher mortality in vulnerable aged populations.
>>>
>>> -- All schools are closed to the middle of month.
>>>
>>> -- Many towns in Lombardy are on lock-down under virtual martial law. 
>>> Economically that is a disaster as the North is the centre of net 
>>> production Italy.
>>>
>>> -- The virus is fulminate, but largely silent, for most infected recover 
>>> without a beep. Detection is a cornerstone that is likely already 
>>> uncontrolled (not sure).
>>>
>>> Some broader issue are ...
>>>
>>> -- Is Italy just detecting it better than the rest of Western Europe? 
>>> Italy started screening & sequestration early.
>>>
>>> -- Is the virus so dispersed yet it is unstoppable? Detection is 
>>> difficult because you can't test everyone. Most people *don't display 
>>> marked symptoms*.
>>>
>>> -- Would it be better to switch from sequestration resourcing to 
>>> palliative care? Let the society continue economic activity regardless?
>>>
>>> I'd say the issue with your alternative advocacy is simply exposure, 
>>> reach. One needs more than a TW. One needs a way to get it read.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> TT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 1 March 2020 07:10:13 UTC+1, A Gloom wrote:

 I shall play advocatus diaboli
  

> Definitely true. BUT our commune in Italy delivered in the postbox a 
> pamphlet yesterday about precautions with the virus.
>

 TW could be delivered via USB external memory devices or CD/DVD-- in 
 this country, more of a change someone paying attention to such than a 
 pamphlet which would be ignored like junk mail.
  

> So WHAT would be the added value of TW unless thousands can find it on 
> quick search? 
>

 Internet may not always be available-- especially if unrest is 
 involved-- the plug on the Internet may get pulled-- Iran, Kashmir, China, 
 Arab Spring...

 and Internet search results can lead to the wrong sources...

 and would ppl select sources from social media and pop culture icons 
 over authoritative sources... I don't know if you noticed the growing 
 distrust in instittutions by 

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

[CJ Veniot]

Being from Canada I see "tidbit" and I immediately think "H.  Timbits.  
Must get to Timmy Ho's ..."

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 3:27:07 PM UTC-3, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao R² ... 
>>
>> ... Tiddlers could become tidbits (1. A tasty morsel (of food). 2. 
>> (computing, informal) A quarter of a byte (Half of a nybble; two bits). 3. 
>> (archaic) A short mention of news or gossip.)
>>
>
> FYI I have a domain that went for "tidbits" as its less obscure than 
> "tiddler".
>
> Tech point on (3). Actually its not universally archaic. In many US & UK 
> contexts "tidbit" still works for "fragment of news, or gossip".
>
> Best wishes
> TT
>

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[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

[CJ Veniot]

Although not a fan of renaming good products (and I can't help think it 
will be a huge pain for an awful lot of folk), I'll just play Devil's 
advocate ...

Gots to be careful to not rebadge TiddlyWiki with something that makes 
people think of another product.

For example, using the word "Rust":   *Rust is a multiplayer-only survival 
video game developed by Facepunch Studios. Rust was first released in early 
access in December 2013 and received its full release in February 2018.*

Probably a good idea to consider a name that works well for renaming 
TiddlyWiki plugins etc.  Calling TiddlyWiki something that doesn't work 
well renaming TiddlyMap (for example) will, in my view, make a real mess of 
things.

Say renaming TiddlyWiki to "SuperNoteThing", new users are not going to 
like needing to know "SuperNoteThing formerly known as TiddlyWiki" when 
searching for any info/resources/plugins/etc.  on the web.

Along with renaming TiddlySpot, TiddlyDesktop, TiddlyDrive, etc. etc. etc.


On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 12:59:01 PM UTC-3, R² wrote:
>
> Nice discussion!
>
> The role of a brand name to convey a powerful impression and is by no 
> means secondary. Tiddlywiki being neither tiddly nor a wiki, the current 
> name generates dissonance and makes it more difficult for newcomers to 
> understand what TW actually is.
>
> David Gifford:
>>
>> Rustonotes. End of discussion.
>>
>
> How about Rustnot? There's Ruston in there, some nice imagery and a 
> reference to the fact that a TW does not degrade over time, which is one of 
> TW's core brand promises. No need to try to say everything. The tagline 
> will help convey more information.
>
> No need to reject the past either. Brand changes are intimidating at first 
> but very exciting once you start the roll-out with something better than 
> the previous iteration. Tiddlers could become tidbits (1. A tasty morsel 
> (of food). 2. (computing, informal) A quarter of a byte (Half of a nybble; 
> two bits). 3. (archaic) A short mention of news or gossip.)
>
> Just my two cents ;)
>
> Regards,
> R²
>

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[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao R² ... 
>
> ... Tiddlers could become tidbits (1. A tasty morsel (of food). 2. 
> (computing, informal) A quarter of a byte (Half of a nybble; two bits). 3. 
> (archaic) A short mention of news or gossip.)
>

FYI I have a domain that went for "tidbits" as its less obscure than 
"tiddler".

Tech point on (3). Actually its not universally archaic. In many US & UK 
contexts "tidbit" still works for "fragment of news, or gossip".

Best wishes
TT

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[tw5] Re: Announcement: TW5-powered ebooks

[Julio Peña]

Hello there,

Oh wow Xavier, will definitely bookmark to go through this more 
attentively and at my leisure.

On first quick impressions...great job! :)

Best wishes,
Julio


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[tw5] Re: Announcement: TW5-powered ebooks

[Mohammad]

Hi Xavier,
 This is really impressive. I am just playing with the tool and I am very 
delighted to see Tiddlywiki in action in real world and more specific in 
publishing industry.

Congratulation for this great piece of work and many thanks for sharing.

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 8:49:11 PM UTC+3:30, Xavier wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> TL;DR: Go to 
> https://www.7switch.com/fr/ebook/9783962558772/great-expectations-serapis-classics,
>  
> click on "Read an extract" and play with it. Then come back if you'd like 
> to know more.
>
> I have been working in the publishing industry for the past 25 years, 
> including the last 10 years as the co-founder of a French ebook 
> distribution company, *immatériel.fr *. 
> Among many things that got me frustrated in the course of selling ebooks is 
> the fact that ebook formats have never been in phase with how we have 
> linked ourselves to knowledge in the two last decades.
>
> The main reason for this particular failure is because ePub and Mobipocket 
> were initially (around 2010) imposed to publishers by Apple and Amazon 
> respectively, and became soon the only digital formats that publishers 
> could sell to the main vendors (actually, Google Play Books also sells PDF 
> books). 
>
> While there are other reasons to rant about the current state of the ebook 
> market, I gave some thought about what could be a likeable modern format 
> for eBooks, and as you guessed, TiddlyWiki checked all the boxes:
>
>1. the book should be easy to open: the reading app could be the same 
>browser that you used to buy the book, whether you are on your mobile or 
> at 
>your desktop;
>2. it should be readable both offline or online;
>3. it should open at the same place where you stopped reading last 
>time;
>4. typesetting should be as beautiful and complex as a website can be;
>5. content should be truly multimedia, including live content from 
>anywhere on the network. Audio books should be a mere byproduct of this 
>feature;
>6. authors should be allowed to multiply standpoints on its content;
>7. readers should be able to reorganise the initial content, and also 
>write above and around it;
>8. for the paranoids out there or those who missed Tim O'Reilly's 
>famous piece on piracy 
>
> 
>  
>back in the days, book content should be easy to encrypt. Ebooks lending 
> to 
>libraries might actually be a good use case.
>
> So we at *immatériel.fr * considered that 
> this territory was worth exploring and we dedicated our 2019 R efforts 
> into building a TW5 alternative format for customers who were regularly 
> buying ePubs at our experimental bookstore *7switch.com 
> *. We had to move forward on two fronts in parallel:
>
>- Converting our full catalog of 80K ePubs from more than 1000 (mostly 
>French) publishers into TW5
>- Figuring a way to display books in an homogeneous way, yet familiar 
>enough for both people reading content on the Web and people used to ePub 
>reading apps, while showing off their new TiddlyWiki nature.
>
> So I asked *Jeremy* if he'd welcome a sponsoring for such a project 
> through his company *Federatial* and, to my awe, he said yes of course! 
> Parallely, since I wasn't sure of how we should render the typical book 
> elements nor the typical features of an ebook reading app in a TW5 
> interface, I asked *JD*, one of our gifted community contributors to TW5 
> user interfaces, for ideas and preliminary tests. 
>
> Soon enough, the three of us had regular meetings, that eventually led to 
> a *preliminary release* of several great open source products that are 
> now embedded into every non-DRM books and extracts that you'll find at the 
> *7switch* ebookstore:
>
>1. The first one is already included in the current prerelease of TW5: 
>the dynaview plugin 
>
>  
>allows content to come into view dynamically in response to familiar 
>gestures like scrolling.
>2. Next comes the *dynannotate* plugin, which will soon make its way 
>to 5.1.22, and is already included in books and extracts that you can find 
>on *7switch*. With it, you can annotate content in a various number of 
>ways.
>3. Then you'll find the *ePub-slicer* plugin, a tool to convert any 
>ePub file into a plugin that essentially contains a list of small content 
>chunks (aka tiddlers!) which can be revealed during the scroll as you read 
>the book in the browser. Thanks to their plugin nature, not only multiple 
>converted books can be hosted in a single TW5 file, but also one can 
>override book content without fear, since the 

[tw5] Re: Download just a tiddler from a TW?

[Mat]

I'm regretting that I asked this because it is in all likelihood more 
complex than I have time or skill for at the moment. Here's what I naively 
was hoping someone would say:

Sure, just use:

https://tiddlywiki.com/#HelloThere; download>link

and add the secret ingredient X.

That is the common html way to make a download-link, e.g for images or 
pdf's. A key difference in what I'm asking for is that I don't want to 
download the whole file. Only the tiddler. And from any TW. I suspect 

 
it is not possible.

But, I should focus on EditorMagic which is multi facetted enough (not to 
mention my work which, because of corona, is doubling up on workload). 
Anyway, some bits if anyone wants to pursue this:

- use an iframe to access other wikis export functions
- see if the mechanism behind the green "Download empty" button could take 
a url 
- Instead of the various "collection lists to plugins" we see some of our 
heroes create, these lists could be put in a tiddler along with such a 
download mechanism.
- Others could republish these lists and add stuff.  some time, the heroes 
could fetch these manipulated lists for import and, via some other 
mechanism, update their original lists. 

...not really thought through but anyway.

<:-)

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[tw5] Announcement: TW5-powered ebooks

[Xavier Cazin]

Hi everyone,

TL;DR: Go to
https://www.7switch.com/fr/ebook/9783962558772/great-expectations-serapis-classics,
click on "Read an extract" and play with it. Then come back if you'd like
to know more.

I have been working in the publishing industry for the past 25 years,
including the last 10 years as the co-founder of a French ebook
distribution company, *immatériel.fr *. Among
many things that got me frustrated in the course of selling ebooks is the
fact that ebook formats have never been in phase with how we have linked
ourselves to knowledge in the two last decades.

The main reason for this particular failure is because ePub and Mobipocket
were initially (around 2010) imposed to publishers by Apple and Amazon
respectively, and became soon the only digital formats that publishers
could sell to the main vendors (actually, Google Play Books also sells PDF
books).

While there are other reasons to rant about the current state of the ebook
market, I gave some thought about what could be a likeable modern format
for eBooks, and as you guessed, TiddlyWiki checked all the boxes:

   1. the book should be easy to open: the reading app could be the same
   browser that you used to buy the book, whether you are on your mobile or at
   your desktop;
   2. it should be readable both offline or online;
   3. it should open at the same place where you stopped reading last time;
   4. typesetting should be as beautiful and complex as a website can be;
   5. content should be truly multimedia, including live content from
   anywhere on the network. Audio books should be a mere byproduct of this
   feature;
   6. authors should be allowed to multiply standpoints on its content;
   7. readers should be able to reorganise the initial content, and also
   write above and around it;
   8. for the paranoids out there or those who missed Tim O'Reilly's famous
   piece on piracy
   

   back in the days, book content should be easy to encrypt. Ebooks lending to
   libraries might actually be a good use case.

So we at *immatériel.fr * considered that this
territory was worth exploring and we dedicated our 2019 R efforts into
building a TW5 alternative format for customers who were regularly buying
ePubs at our experimental bookstore *7switch.com *. We
had to move forward on two fronts in parallel:

   - Converting our full catalog of 80K ePubs from more than 1000 (mostly
   French) publishers into TW5
   - Figuring a way to display books in an homogeneous way, yet familiar
   enough for both people reading content on the Web and people used to ePub
   reading apps, while showing off their new TiddlyWiki nature.

So I asked *Jeremy* if he'd welcome a sponsoring for such a project through
his company *Federatial* and, to my awe, he said yes of course! Parallely,
since I wasn't sure of how we should render the typical book elements nor
the typical features of an ebook reading app in a TW5 interface, I asked
*JD*, one of our gifted community contributors to TW5 user interfaces, for
ideas and preliminary tests.

Soon enough, the three of us had regular meetings, that eventually led
to a *preliminary
release* of several great open source products that are now embedded into
every non-DRM books and extracts that you'll find at the *7switch*
ebookstore:

   1. The first one is already included in the current prerelease of TW5:
   the dynaview plugin
   
   allows content to come into view dynamically in response to familiar
   gestures like scrolling.
   2. Next comes the *dynannotate* plugin, which will soon make its way to
   5.1.22, and is already included in books and extracts that you can find on
   *7switch*. With it, you can annotate content in a various number of ways.
   3. Then you'll find the *ePub-slicer* plugin, a tool to convert any ePub
   file into a plugin that essentially contains a list of small content chunks
   (aka tiddlers!) which can be revealed during the scroll as you read the
   book in the browser. Thanks to their plugin nature, not only multiple
   converted books can be hosted in a single TW5 file, but also one can
   override book content without fear, since the original shadow tiddlers
   could be retrieved at any time. Note that the HTML parsing is not yet
   complete, as we'd like to be able to parse any ePub, whether their content
   has been well semantised or not. So if you see spurious  or
every once in a while, don't be surprised: *you're looking
   at a work in progress*.
   4. Finally, you'll also find JD's *TW Book Wrapper* plugin, which is
   responsible for most specific UI elements, from annotations management to
   the automatic language switching, based on your browser default language.
   By the way, we started 

[tw5] Re: Transclude a field using a variable field name

[Mohammad]

If you like Shiraz dynamic table do the job!
Check it at https://kookma.github.io/TW-S 
hiraz

--Mohammad

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 7:35:23 PM UTC+3:30, Micah Maltsberger wrote:
>
> I'm trying to include a list of all tiddlers which contain a variable 
> field, sorted by the value of that field. ie, the tiddlers all have a field 
> named "bob" with various numbers in that field. The name of the field is 
> variable (defined in the "lwrcase" field of the current tiddler). The code 
> below works perfectly - except that i can't use a variable to transclude 
> the contents of the "bob" field. If i put in the name of the field (as 
> below) it works fine.
>
> Anybody have any idea? I assume it's going to be something with helper 
> macros and whatnot but I can't seem to get it to work.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> 
> 
> number
> Name
> Description
> Cost
> 
> <$list filter="[tag[spell]has{!!lwrcase}] +[nsort{!!lwrcase}]">
> 
> <$transclude field="bob"/>
> <$link to={{!!title}}><$transclude field="title"/>
> <$transclude field="description"/>
> <$transclude field="cost"/>
> 
> 
> 
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Transclude a field using a variable field name

[Mohammad]

Micah,
I am not answering your question, but

I may recommend to have a look 
at https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/#syntax
I see some syntax error in your code.

--Mohammad

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 7:35:23 PM UTC+3:30, Micah Maltsberger wrote:
>
> I'm trying to include a list of all tiddlers which contain a variable 
> field, sorted by the value of that field. ie, the tiddlers all have a field 
> named "bob" with various numbers in that field. The name of the field is 
> variable (defined in the "lwrcase" field of the current tiddler). The code 
> below works perfectly - except that i can't use a variable to transclude 
> the contents of the "bob" field. If i put in the name of the field (as 
> below) it works fine.
>
> Anybody have any idea? I assume it's going to be something with helper 
> macros and whatnot but I can't seem to get it to work.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> 
> 
> number
> Name
> Description
> Cost
> 
> <$list filter="[tag[spell]has{!!lwrcase}] +[nsort{!!lwrcase}]">
> 
> <$transclude field="bob"/>
> <$link to={{!!title}}><$transclude field="title"/>
> <$transclude field="description"/>
> <$transclude field="cost"/>
> 
> 
> 
>
>

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[tw5] Re: The-Book Chapter 10

[Stobot]

Luis,

For what it's worth - as a decade plus user of TiddlyWiki, your book has 
provided me the equivalent of *years* of monitoring these google groups for 
how-to knowledge.Huge thanks and kudos to you. 

I am one of those people who only likes to implement other people's plugins 
once I understand every line of code (so I can keep maintaining it if the 
original author moves on). Your book has given me so much info! Especially 
the stylesheet and other customization sections. I've been working on a 
left-menu thing on/off for years, and your text gave me a few of the 
missing pieces. 

I too have seen some language things that need fixing, and some of the 
examples are not copy-paste-able (extra spaces coming through), so 
interested in what the end product will look like. Would a TW version on 
TiddlySpot or something else even make sense?

Happy to help in any way I can. 

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Re: [tw5] The-Book Chapter 10

[Aidan Grey]

As long as it's something editable, I'll be happy.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 9:49 AM Luis Gonzalez  wrote:

> The "building" of The-Book is becoming a wonderful challenge.
>
>
> Project completion is near and I will need readers to correct its content.
> If you want it, the next week I will release an .odt version of the book to
> share with all of you.
>
>
> I trust free software a lot and I think Libreoffice is a fantastic
> alternative to collaborate.
>
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[tw5] Transclude a field using a variable field name

[Micah Maltsberger]

I'm trying to include a list of all tiddlers which contain a variable 
field, sorted by the value of that field. ie, the tiddlers all have a field 
named "bob" with various numbers in that field. The name of the field is 
variable (defined in the "lwrcase" field of the current tiddler). The code 
below works perfectly - except that i can't use a variable to transclude 
the contents of the "bob" field. If i put in the name of the field (as 
below) it works fine.

Anybody have any idea? I assume it's going to be something with helper 
macros and whatnot but I can't seem to get it to work.

Thanks in advance!



number
Name
Description
Cost

<$list filter="[tag[spell]has{!!lwrcase}] +[nsort{!!lwrcase}]">

<$transclude field="bob"/>
<$link to={{!!title}}><$transclude field="title"/>
<$transclude field="description"/>
<$transclude field="cost"/>




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[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

[R²]

Nice discussion!

The role of a brand name to convey a powerful impression and is by no means 
secondary. Tiddlywiki being neither tiddly nor a wiki, the current name 
generates dissonance and makes it more difficult for newcomers to 
understand what TW actually is.

David Gifford:
>
> Rustonotes. End of discussion.
>

How about Rustnot? There's Ruston in there, some nice imagery and a 
reference to the fact that a TW does not degrade over time, which is one of 
TW's core brand promises. No need to try to say everything. The tagline 
will help convey more information.

No need to reject the past either. Brand changes are intimidating at first 
but very exciting once you start the roll-out with something better than 
the previous iteration. Tiddlers could become tidbits (1. A tasty morsel 
(of food). 2. (computing, informal) A quarter of a byte (Half of a nybble; 
two bits). 3. (archaic) A short mention of news or gossip.)

Just my two cents ;)

Regards,
R²

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Re: [tw5] The-Book Chapter 10

[Luis Gonzalez]

The "building" of The-Book is becoming a wonderful challenge.


Project completion is near and I will need readers to correct its content. 
If you want it, the next week I will release an .odt version of the book to 
share with all of you.


I trust free software a lot and I think Libreoffice is a fantastic 
alternative to collaborate.

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[tw5] Re: Dictionary to JSON

[Hubert]

It works perfectly, thank you Mohammad!

Regards,
Hubert

On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 15:28:05 UTC, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Try the attached code in tiddlywiki.com
>
>
> --Mohammad
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 6:26:39 PM UTC+3:30, Hubert wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Is there a quick and easy way to convert a dictionary-type tiddler to a 
>> json tiddler using existing tools or plugins?
>>
>> It's not about changing the type itself (there's a dropdown for that), 
>> but about parsing and rewriting my key:value pairs to be compliant with the 
>> json data structure.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Hubert
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Dictionary to JSON

[Mohammad]

Try the attached code in tiddlywiki.com


--Mohammad


On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 6:26:39 PM UTC+3:30, Hubert wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Is there a quick and easy way to convert a dictionary-type tiddler to a 
> json tiddler using existing tools or plugins?
>
> It's not about changing the type itself (there's a dropdown for that), but 
> about parsing and rewriting my key:value pairs to be compliant with the 
> json data structure.
>
> Many thanks,
> Hubert
>
>

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dic_json_converter.json
Description: application/json

[tw5] Re: New Plugin tw-receiver saves wiki to PHP

[Mario Public]

Thank You!

You were right!
Testing now.

Mario

Il giorno martedì 10 marzo 2020 12:11:46 UTC+1, HC Haase ha scritto:
>
>
>
> lørdag den 7. marts 2020 kl. 16.51.23 UTC+1 skrev Mario Public:
>>
>> When importing the plugin the error:
>>
>> JSON error: SyntaxError: JSON.parse: unexpected character at line 7 
>> column 1 of the JSON data
>>
>> is reported
>>
>> Mario
>>
>> if you copied the file form github, are you sure you have the json code, 
>> and not the html code for the link to the file? ( I did that) check the 
>> file in a text editor and see if it match what is on github
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: A problem with the foot little plugin

[Eric Shulman]

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 4:49:33 AM UTC-7, Luis Gonzalez wrote:
>
> I've added to my foot plugin the option of collapse tiddlers. It shows a 
> little chevron icon on the view toolbar.
> If you click on the "chevron up" icon the tiddler collapses (the top 
> tiddler above). If you click the "chevron down" icon the tiddler expands.
>

The TWCore already has a "fold/unfold" button that can be shown in the View 
Toolbar.  How does your button differ?
 

> There is a problem: the tiddler status is stored in the field "hide-body" 
> in the same tiddler, so if you collapse/expand a tiddler the tiddlywiki 
> is marked as not saved.
> How can I store the status of each tiddler (it is not the same for all 
> tiddlers, so each tiddler has its own status) so that Tiddlywiki does not 
> mark it as not saved?
>

The TWCore definition for *$:/core/ui/Buttons/fold* refers to a variable, 
<>, which is defined in *$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate* as:

\define folded-state()
$:/state/folded/$(currentTiddler)$
\end

This variable uses the value of $(currentTiddler)$ to construct a unique 
"$:/state/folded/..." tiddler title, so that the folded/unfolded state of a 
given tiddler is stored separately.  This avoids the problem you are having 
where changing the state changes the "modified" field of the affected 
tiddler.

Note that any changes to "$:/state..." tiddlers do NOT mark the document as 
"dirty" (i.e., needing to be saved).  This is defined 
in $:/config/SaverFilter, via the "-[prefix[$:/state/]]" filter syntax.

However, even though changes to $:/state tiddlers don't mark the document 
as dirty, the $:/state tiddlers themselves are still saved when you save 
the document, so that their values are preserved across separate browser 
sessions.

As of TW5.1.22 (currently pre-release), you can suppress the *saving* of 
the $:/state/folded/... tiddlers by defining a global variable, 
$(publishFilter)$ by creating a tiddler (e.g., "$:/config/PublishFilter" -- 
or any other name you like), tagged with "$:/tags/Macro" that contains:
\define publishFilter() -[prefix[$:/state/folded]]

enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools.com: "Small Tools for Big Ideas!" (tm)
InsideTiddlyWiki - http://TiddlyTools.com/InsideTW






will still mark the entire document as "dirty".  




>
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[tw5] Dictionary to JSON

[Hubert]

Hello,

Is there a quick and easy way to convert a dictionary-type tiddler to a 
json tiddler using existing tools or plugins?

It's not about changing the type itself (there's a dropdown for that), but 
about parsing and rewriting my key:value pairs to be compliant with the 
json data structure.

Many thanks,
Hubert

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Re: [tw5] The-Book Chapter 10

[Aidan Grey]

Heya Luis!

Can I get a doc version? I'd like to do some editing / layout to make this
a bit prettier, correct a few english bits (very weel written despite the
few errors! Kudos!).

And if it comes to that point, for those of us that are a bit old school, I
can help get it laid out for print publication too.

Aidan

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 1:37 AM Luis Gonzalez  wrote:

> After the Christmas stop I continue writing The-Book. I think is
> important to include a little chapter with some architectural aspects of
> Tiddlywiki.
> The attached pages contains the beginning.I saw the Tiddlywiki Hangout 10
> to fill the pages.
>
>
> * PLEASE:*
>
> * All experts in Tiddlywiki, check the table. If there is missing or bad
> information, please tell me.
> * What more information do you think should be included in this chapter?
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help.
> The-Book keep moving forward.
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[tw5] Re: [Help] performance of plugin, filters

[Mohammad]

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 2:46:31 PM UTC+3:30, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi,
> You can measure the performance of filters if you install the "Tools for 
> exploring the internals of TW 
> "
>  
> plugin.  ... AND
> Enable Performance Instrumentation 
> in
>  
> the ControlPanel: Settings tab ... THEN
> SAVE
> RELOAD
>
> In the browser dev tools F12 you'll see some text: $tw.perf.log()
>
> Enter this string into the console tab and hit enter. 
>
Which string?

 

> You'll get a detailed overview, which filters are called, how often they 
> are called and the time they need. 
>

I cannot see anything, but when when verbose is ticked I see some violation 
message

[image: performance.png]
 

>
> Open / Close / Open the tiddlers that contain your filters, and you'll see 
> the impact they make. 
>
> have fun!
> -mario
> PS: Should I record a video about this?
>

That would really appreciated! 

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[tw5] Re: Download just a tiddler from a TW?

[Luis Gonzalez]

Tip: If you want to export a group of tiddlers as if it were a complement, 
you must use the json format.

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[tw5] Re: Download just a tiddler from a TW?

[Mohammad]

This is different from plugin library or what Mat said in his initial post!
What Mat said and I asked from Jeremy is: A user in his wiki has a tool 
like Plugin Library

When Plugin Library opens, one can select a pluging, a them, a macro, or 
other tiddler bundle and just add (inject) to his/her target wiki!
No need to drag and drop. No need to visit source wiki, create bundle 
export and import,... no hassle

Example: Tony update his tips and tricks in his PSAT wiki and I have added 
my Simple Navigation Macro in Yazd wiki!
You can just open your Tiddler Library (or whatever it is called) and see 
what Tony recently updated and what I have added!

--Mohammad



On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 5:14:16 PM UTC+3:30, Luis Gonzalez wrote:
>
>
> You can download a single tiddler as a .tid file (or csv, json or static 
> html) in this way:
>
> 1. Open the Advanced search tiddler.
> 2. Type the title of the tiddler inside square brackets. For example, 
> [[Using Stylesheets]].
> 3. Click on the third icon on the left (the export tiddlers icon)
> 4. Choose the format of the tiddler file.
>
> Look at the above image.
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Download just a tiddler from a TW?

[Luis Gonzalez]

You can download a single tiddler as a .tid file (or csv, json or static 
html) in this way:

1. Open the Advanced search tiddler.
2. Type the title of the tiddler inside square brackets. For example, 
[[Using Stylesheets]].
3. Click on the third icon on the left (the export tiddlers icon)
4. Choose the format of the tiddler file.

Look at the above image.



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[tw5] Re: Tony's Tiny Tips

[Sylvain Naudin]

Le mardi 10 mars 2020 07:29:28 UTC+1, A Gloom a écrit :
>
> easy regex search for exact word in Advanced search
>
> create a tiddler named $:/core/Filters/ExactTermsearch
> (using %$:/core may not be suggested )
>
> tiddler text field: leave empty
>
> description field: for search of exact search term
>
> filter field: [!is[system]search::regexp[\binnominull\b]]
>
> tag it: $:/tags/Filter 
>
> now it display as one of the filter choices in Filter tab of Advanced 
> Search (shows in list of the down arrow next to text field)-- if you know 
> the format of the search operator you can type in fields to search (& other 
> suffixes) as well as an EXACT search term or other regex patterns
>


Oh thanks A Gloom, I was wondering how to add filter like this in Advanced 
Search :)

For example to search *empty tiddler* :

[!is[system]!has[text]] 

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[tw5] Re: [Help] performance of plugin, filters

[HC Haase]

tirsdag den 10. marts 2020 kl. 12.30.10 UTC+1 skrev Hubert:
>
> Yes, I understand your objectives, but I cannot answer in code if I don't 
> have your building blocks.
>
> Anyway, to answer your question on a high level, if your reveal widget 
> evaluates to False, then anything it embeds (filters included) is simply 
> not run, which does save time.
>
> If it evaluates to True, well, then I guess your best bet would be to run 
> performance instrumentation to see how it performs, as Mario suggested 
> above. The same applies to your filter run, as long as you can embed the 
> functionality of a reveal widget in your filter syntax. By running 
> performance instrumentation you can test different solutions and boost 
> processing time by a few hundred ms in the best of cases.
>
> Apologies if this appears vague, I just don't want to speculate.
>

Thank you. I am also trying to understand it on a high level.
as you say, when reveal widget evaluates to False it is not run, I think 
there are more benefit to this, that would get lost in in a filter. thanks 
for clarifying.


does it make sense to have a filter like below? will the* all[tiddlers]* do 
anything?

[all[tiddlers]all[current]tagging[]]
vs
[all[current]tagging[]]

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[tw5] Re: [Help] performance of plugin, filters

[Hubert]

Yes, I understand your objectives, but I cannot answer in code if I don't 
have your building blocks.

Anyway, to answer your question on a high level, if your reveal widget 
evaluates to False, then anything it embeds (filters included) is simply 
not run, which does save time.

If it evaluates to True, well, then I guess your best bet would be to run 
performance instrumentation to see how it performs, as Mario suggested 
above. The same applies to your filter run, as long as you can embed the 
functionality of a reveal widget in your filter syntax. By running 
performance instrumentation you can test different solutions and boost 
processing time by a few hundred ms in the best of cases.

Apologies if this appears vague, I just don't want to speculate.

Many thanks,
Hubert

On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 11:20:13 UTC, HC Haase wrote:
>
>
>
> tirsdag den 10. marts 2020 kl. 12.11.34 UTC+1 skrev Hubert:
>>
>> I'm not quite sure what you're trying to accomplish in question #1. 
>> Please post your code and someone may come up with a solution :) (I'll try 
>> my best too).
>>
>> I am thinking if there would be a benefit to combine reveal and the 
> filter, so instead of first a reveal and then a filter I could evaluate, in 
> the same filter, a value in e.g. a state tiddler and then a specific tag.
>  
>
>> As goes for question #2, it's good practice to start building your 
>> filters by defining the fundamental category as explained here 
>> . There might be 
>> performance benefits too, but I'm not qualified to answer this part of your 
>> question.
>>
>>
> thanks you for your help
>
>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [Help] performance of plugin, filters

[HC Haase]

tirsdag den 10. marts 2020 kl. 12.11.34 UTC+1 skrev Hubert:
>
> I'm not quite sure what you're trying to accomplish in question #1. Please 
> post your code and someone may come up with a solution :) (I'll try my best 
> too).
>
> I am thinking if there would be a benefit to combine reveal and the 
filter, so instead of first a reveal and then a filter I could evaluate, in 
the same filter, a value in e.g. a state tiddler and then a specific tag.
 

> As goes for question #2, it's good practice to start building your filters 
> by defining the fundamental category as explained here 
> . There might be 
> performance benefits too, but I'm not qualified to answer this part of your 
> question.
>
>
thanks you for your help


>

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[tw5] Re: [Help] performance of plugin, filters

[PMario]

Hi,
You can measure the performance of filters if you install the "Tools for 
exploring the internals of TW 
" 
plugin.  ... AND
Enable Performance Instrumentation 
in
 
the ControlPanel: Settings tab ... THEN
SAVE
RELOAD

In the browser dev tools F12 you'll see some text: $tw.perf.log()

Enter this string into the console tab and hit enter. 
You'll get a detailed overview, which filters are called, how often they 
are called and the time they need. 

Open / Close / Open the tiddlers that contain your filters, and you'll see 
the impact they make. 

have fun!
-mario
PS: Should I record a video about this?

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[tw5] Re: [Help] performance of plugin, filters

[Hubert]

I'm not quite sure what you're trying to accomplish in question #1. Please 
post your code and someone may come up with a solution :) (I'll try me best 
too).

As goes for question #2, it's good practice to start building your filters 
by defining the fundamental category as explained here 
. There might be 
performance benefits too, but I'm not qualified to answer this part of your 
question.

Thanks,
Hubert

On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 11:04:19 UTC, HC Haase wrote:
>
> thank very much  you for your answer. This was what I suspected.
>
>
> new questions.
>
> 1
> is it possible to combine reveal and a filter? and will this be faster?
>
> something like:
>
> <$list filter="[speceficTiddler!!field[yes]has[field]]">
>
> and 2
> is there an advantage in 
> [all[tiddlers]tag[something]has[field]]
>
> vs 
> [tag[something]has[field]]
>
> is it an index thing?
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: New Plugin tw-receiver saves wiki to PHP

[HC Haase]

lørdag den 7. marts 2020 kl. 16.51.23 UTC+1 skrev Mario Public:
>
> When importing the plugin the error:
>
> JSON error: SyntaxError: JSON.parse: unexpected character at line 7 column 
> 1 of the JSON data
>
> is reported
>
> Mario
>
> if you copied the file form github, are you sure you have the json code, 
> and not the html code for the link to the file? ( I did that) check the 
> file in a text editor and see if it match what is on github
>

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[tw5] Re: [Help] performance of plugin, filters

[HC Haase]

thank very much  you for your answer. This was what I suspected.


new questions.

1
is it possible to combine reveal and a filter? and will this be faster?

something like:

<$list filter="[speceficTiddler!!field[yes]has[field]]">

and 2
is there an advantage in 
[all[tiddlers]tag[something]has[field]]

vs 
[tag[something]has[field]]

is it an index thing?





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[tw5] Re: [Help] performance of plugin, filters

[Hubert]

Hi HC,

1. question
> if I hide something (a filter) with the *reveal widget*, will it be 
> bypassed or will it still run the filter but not show it? or is there a 
> better  way (for speed) to toggle between things?
>

It will be bypassed (not executed). Any code/content enclosed in a reveal 
widget that evaluates to False is not run and saves precious processor 
cycles, especially precious on mobile :)

2.question
> is there any advantage in combining filters vs. nesting them?
>
 
Combining all your operators in one filter run is generally better than 
having multiple nested filters, but this depends on how you've designed 
your filters, i.e. how general or how specific they are. If you have two 
nested filters, where the outer one produces an output of 100 items and 
then you re-evaluate that output with your inner (embedded) filter you're 
essentially running it twice, which is inefficient.

For example, this is less efficient:

<$list filter="[all[tiddlers]tag[something]]">
<$list filter="[has[field]]">




than this:

<$list filter="[all[tiddlers]tag[something]has[field]]">




Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks,
Hubert


On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 10:03:39 UTC, HC Haase wrote:
>
> When I am building my new plugin, at some point things get really slow. 
>
> Can you help me understand where I Can optimize please? I am lacking some 
> basic understanding.
>
> 1. question
> if I hide something (a filter) with the *reveal widget*, will it be 
> bypassed or will it still run the filter but not show it? or is there a 
> better  way (for speed) to toggle between things?
>
> 2.question
> is there any advantage in combining filters vs. nesting them?
>
> example:
>
> reveal if field[x]
>   list filter tag[y] limit[1]
>stuff to show
>
>   /list filter
> /reveal
>
> vs
>
> list filter field[x]tag[y] limit[1]
>   stuff to show
> /list
>
>
> thanks
>

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[tw5] [Help] performance of plugin, filters

[HC Haase]

When I am building my new plugin, at some point things get really slow. 

Can you help me understand where I Can optimize please? I am lacking some 
basic understanding.

1. question
if I hide something (a filter) with the *reveal widget*, will it be 
bypassed or will it still run the filter but not show it? or is there a 
better  way (for speed) to toggle between things?

2.question
is there any advantage in combining filters vs. nesting them?

example:

reveal if field[x]
  list filter tag[y] limit[1]
   stuff to show

  /list filter
/reveal

vs

list filter field[x]tag[y] limit[1]
  stuff to show
/list


thanks

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[tw5] Re: Filter comparison operators

[Hubert]

Hi David,

<$list filter="[tag[blah]has[year](somehow)year<19]">
>
> 
>

I know you're looking specifically for a filter operator. But for the time 
being, is there any reason why you wouldn't settle for the reveal widget? 
This should work based on your code above. You can use that for multiple 
outcomes, use dynamically generated 'variables' and even nest your 
conditions, if needed:

<$list filter="[tag[blah]has[year]]">
<$vars year={{!!year}}>
<$reveal default=<> type="lt" text="19">

content/actions if field "year" has a value that is less than 19





One thing to note is that I'd use a 4-digit year to avoid problems with no 
leading zeroes in single digit years, the reveal widget may sometimes 
return unexpected results in these cases. Once that's taken care of, the 
reveal widget is probably the best 'scenario routing'/comparison mechanism 
that we have in TW at the moment, short of js of course.

More here. 

Thanks,
Hubert








On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 12:51:47 UTC, David Allen wrote:
>
> Looking for a filter operator that will let me compare numbers in fields.
>
> <$list filter="[tag[blah]has[year](somehow)year<19]">
>
> 
>
> Just kind of as an example
>

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Re: [tw5] Download just a tiddler from a TW?

[Mohammad]

Jeremy,

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 1:03:45 AM UTC+3:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Mat
>
> On 9 Mar 2020, at 20:23, Mat > wrote:
>
> If this were possible, it would be trivial for anyone to make a plugin 
> library
>
>
> It’s already pretty trivial to make a plugin library under Node.js, are 
> you talking about making a plugin library with the standalone file 
> configuration? If so, perhaps you don't need to invent a new mechanism, but 
> just experiment with using the same templates to generate files in the 
> browser.
>

This is a good starting point. Would you please give an example to create a 
library from these tiddler on tiddlywiki.com

[tag[HelloThere]]


Assuming TW+Node.js are working.

--Mohammad

--Mohammad



 

>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>

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Re: [tw5] Tiddler Templates

[Gerardo Vélez]

Wow! I wonder how I never stumbled upon this book after so many hours 
wandering around looking for answers.

Many thanks for the link and I'll get sure to follow up on the updates.

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[tw5] Re: Download just a tiddler from a TW?

[Mohammad]

Mat,

This is amazing proposal!

It should be as simple as possible people with basic TW knowledge can 
create a shared-list, tiddler-library, ...
The current mechanism of making library needs Node.js and some advanced 
knowledge of TW+Node

--Mohammad

On Monday, March 9, 2020 at 11:53:29 PM UTC+3:30, Mat wrote:
>
> I am guessing "no" but asking anyway:
>
> Is it possible, in wiki-1, to click on a something (a link or a button) to 
> trigger a download of only a tiddler from wiki-2 which is located at some 
> external url?
>
> Downloading a full wiki is of course done when clicking on, say, "download 
> empty" on tiddlywiki.com so my question is if it is possible to limit it 
> to only be the specific tiddler/s in the target TW.
>
> If this were possible, it would be trivial for anyone to make a plugin 
> library for ones own stuff (a plugin library would just be a tiddler with a 
> permalink for every plugin you serve) and it would probably also be simple 
> to make a global kind of share-list with links to other peoples wikis.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Query: Is there an index of tiddlyspot.com?

[Mohammad]

Many thanks for sharing!


On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 10:31:52 AM UTC+3:30, A Gloom wrote:
>
> i never finished the index because I didn't know if the wiki owners wanted 
> their wiki listed in a public listing
>
>
> http://twguidedoc.tiddlyspot.com/#TiddlySpot%20index%20search:%5B%5BTiddlySpot%20index%20search%5D%5D%20%5B%5BTiddlySpot%20wikis%20search%5D%5D
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[tw5] Re: Tony's Tiny Tips

[Mohammad]

The link in TW-Scripts

https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/#Useful%20Little%20TiddlyWiki%20tips

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 8:13:13 AM UTC+3:30, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Added to TW-Scripts
>
> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/#Useful%20Little%20TiddlyWiki%20tips
>
> On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 3:04:38 AM UTC+3:30, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> We often discover useful little TiddlyWiki tips but tend only to share 
>> them when someone asks a relevant Question.
>>
>> I would like to encourage this sharing so I will kick off with a few
>>
>> *Control Panel > Info > Basics tips*
>>
>> *Default tiddlers* If you use "Home [list[$:/StoryList]] in the default 
>> tiddlers 
>> it will always load the Home tiddler and the previously open tiddlers
>>
>> *Username for signing edits* this can not only be used as a user name, 
>> but you can change it for a particular edit session.
>> For example "Tony V0.3 changes" then you can list tiddlers created and 
>> modified for that edit session
>> Consider clicking on the user name in the tiddler subtitles and defining 
>> a more descriptive definition in the resulting "user tiddler"
>>
>> *Title of new tiddlers *Set to "New {{$:/SiteTitle}} Tiddler" for each 
>> new tiddler to include the site title
>> For example the Recipes wiki creates new tiddlers titled "New Recipes 
>> Tiddler"
>>
>> Please share you tips too.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Tony's Tiny Tips

[Mohammad]

Hi Mario
 This is the link!
TW-Scripts is updated on https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/# on monthly 
basis, so it is not easy to add the link quickly!
But users may head over and search with thread or post topic to not only 
find the added post but find similar things :-)

--Mohammad

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 10:40:11 AM UTC+3:30, PMario wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 5:43:13 AM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Added to TW-Scripts
>>
>  
> That's nice but you should add a link.
> -m
>

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[tw5] Re: Tony's Tiny Tips

[PMario]

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 5:43:13 AM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Added to TW-Scripts
>
 
That's nice but you should add a link.
-m

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[tw5] Re: Update Codemirror

[PMario]

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 5:54:56 AM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
 

> If I include the codemirror plugins relating to HTML I get a Red 
> Javascript error.
>

hi,
Can you be more precise, so we can fix the problem. An attachment here will 
be ok.
-m

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[tw5] Re: Link with variable field to point URL in list tiddler ?

[Sylvain Naudin]

Le mardi 10 mars 2020 07:26:36 UTC+1, Mohammad a écrit :
>
> Sylvain
>
> *replace*
> \define urln() $(forumUrl)$$user$
>
>
>
> *with*
> \define urln() $(forumUrl)$$(user)$
>
> Let me know how it is going!
>
> --Mohammad
>
>

Yes ! of course, thank you !

Later I'll do the same for my wiki user, and it's camel case, so I think 
I'll uncheck it in control panel.

Again, thank you, have a great day.
Sylvain

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[tw5] Re: Query: Is there an index of tiddlyspot.com?

[A Gloom]

i never finished the index because I didn't know if the wiki owners wanted 
their wiki listed in a public listing

http://twguidedoc.tiddlyspot.com/#TiddlySpot%20index%20search:%5B%5BTiddlySpot%20index%20search%5D%5D%20%5B%5BTiddlySpot%20wikis%20search%5D%5D

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[tw5] Re: Covid & Tiddlywiki

[A Gloom]

>
> I'd really like to incorporate the <$reveal> functionality, which is 
> probalby html5? this is pretty much out of my league. And I have a few 
> hours...(I can always relaunch it monday...)


Just studied the system reveal js tiddler recently-- reveal uses html but 
not a direct correlation to a html "tag" like $button widget = html 
, but it uses the display:none css on a div if I'm reading it right

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[tw5] Re: Update Codemirror

[Mohammad]

bluespire,
 I think BTC (Simon) is the plugin container. I will ask in GitHuB to have 
a look!

--Mohammad

On Monday, March 9, 2020 at 6:32:13 PM UTC+3:30, bluespire wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Maybe I missed the documentation on how to update Codemirror for 
> Tiddlywiki. The one in the official repo looks pretty out of date, but also 
> looks like some decent work went into porting it. What's the easiest way to 
> update it?
>
> -George
>

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[tw5] Re: Tony's Tiny Tips

[A Gloom]

easy regex search for exact word in Advanced search

create a tiddler named $:/core/Filters/ExactTermsearch
(using %$:/core may not be suggested )

tiddler text field: leave empty

description field: for search of exact search term

filter field: [!is[system]search::regexp[\binnominull\b]]

tag it: $:/tags/Filter 

now it display as one of the filter choices in Filter tab of Advanced 
Search (shows in list of the down arrow next to text field)-- if you know 
the format of the search operator you can type in fields to search (& other 
suffixes) as well as an EXACT search term or other regex patterns

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[tw5] Re: Link with variable field to point URL in list tiddler ?

[Mohammad]

Sylvain

*replace*
\define urln() $(forumUrl)$$user$



*with*
\define urln() $(forumUrl)$$(user)$

Let me know how it is going!

--Mohammad

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 9:50:39 AM UTC+3:30, Sylvain Naudin wrote:
>
>
>
> Le mardi 10 mars 2020 05:21:22 UTC+1, Mohammad a écrit :
>>
>> Beautiful TW site! Good luck Sylvain!
>>
>
>
> Thank you Mohammad :)
>
>
>
>> I edited your Forum tiddler: https://tw5.xyz/Annuaire/contact.html#Forum 
>> as below
>>
>> \define forumUrl() https://forum.tiddlywiki.fr/u/
>> \define urln() $(forumUrl)$$user$
>>
>> !<> Tableau
>>
>> 
>> 
>> <> Intervenant·e·s
>> Forum
>> 
>> 
>> <$list filter="[tag[Annuaire]sort[title]]">
>> 
>> <$link/>
>> 
>> <$vars user={{!!forum}} >
>> > >{{!!forum}}
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> and it works as you like :-)
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>>
>
> I just test your proposal, but.. it gave me '
> https://forum.tiddlywiki.fr/u/$user$' and no real address. This is 
> madness ! :D Arrhhgg.
> I've upload this version if you can check.
> Thanks
>

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[tw5] Re: Link with variable field to point URL in list tiddler ?

[Mohammad]

Lets see! I check the old version and it worked!
Wait few minutes!

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 9:50:39 AM UTC+3:30, Sylvain Naudin wrote:
>
>
>
> Le mardi 10 mars 2020 05:21:22 UTC+1, Mohammad a écrit :
>>
>> Beautiful TW site! Good luck Sylvain!
>>
>
>
> Thank you Mohammad :)
>
>
>
>> I edited your Forum tiddler: https://tw5.xyz/Annuaire/contact.html#Forum 
>> as below
>>
>> \define forumUrl() https://forum.tiddlywiki.fr/u/
>> \define urln() $(forumUrl)$$user$
>>
>> !<> Tableau
>>
>> 
>> 
>> <> Intervenant·e·s
>> Forum
>> 
>> 
>> <$list filter="[tag[Annuaire]sort[title]]">
>> 
>> <$link/>
>> 
>> <$vars user={{!!forum}} >
>> > >{{!!forum}}
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> and it works as you like :-)
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>>
>
> I just test your proposal, but.. it gave me '
> https://forum.tiddlywiki.fr/u/$user$' and no real address. This is 
> madness ! :D Arrhhgg.
> I've upload this version if you can check.
> Thanks
>

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[tw5] TW-Scripts Monthly update

[Mohammad]

This is a monthly update of TW-Scripts.
To see the list of latest changes see, Sidebar Tab, Recent.

Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/
Code:  https://github.com/kookma/TW-Scripts


If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Scripts


--Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Link with variable field to point URL in list tiddler ?

[Sylvain Naudin]

Le mardi 10 mars 2020 05:21:22 UTC+1, Mohammad a écrit :
>
> Beautiful TW site! Good luck Sylvain!
>


Thank you Mohammad :)



> I edited your Forum tiddler: https://tw5.xyz/Annuaire/contact.html#Forum 
> as below
>
> \define forumUrl() https://forum.tiddlywiki.fr/u/
> \define urln() $(forumUrl)$$user$
>
> !<> Tableau
>
> 
> 
> <> Intervenant·e·s
> Forum
> 
> 
> <$list filter="[tag[Annuaire]sort[title]]">
> 
> <$link/>
> 
> <$vars user={{!!forum}} >
> > >{{!!forum}}
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
>
>
>
> and it works as you like :-)
>
> --Mohammad
>
>

I just test your proposal, but.. it gave me 
'https://forum.tiddlywiki.fr/u/$user$' and no real address. This is madness 
! :D Arrhhgg.
I've upload this version if you can check.
Thanks

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[tw5] More button foolery (borders & aufio)

[A Gloom]

(goes along with topic 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/PBUMNSI5EJY/AFNjXsSIAQAJ )

easy to modified buttons shapes with style override

[image: btnClipboard.jpg]


inline styling used for demo, styles can be moved to a stylesheet for wiki 
wide custom buttons using class="" don't use with tc-btn-rounded class

class attribute shown to show no tc-btn- classes used, imgglow (the glow 
for the buttons) not included

<$button class="imgglow" style="font-size:1em; border: groove 3px; 
border-radius:0px 50px 50px 50px; padding:2px 20px;">Remorse

<$button class="imgglow" style="font-size:1em; border: ridge 3px; 
border-radius:0px 50px; padding:2px 20px 2px 25px;">The Inquisitor

<$button class="imgglow" style="font-size:1em; border: outset 3px; 
border-radius:0px 50px 0px 0px; padding:2px 20px;">The Stalwart

<$button class="imgglow" style="font-size:1em; border: inset 3px; 
border-radius:50px 50px 0px 0px; padding:2px 20px;">The Adversary

<$button class="imgglow" style="border-style:inset solid inset solid; 
border-width:1px 2px 5px; border-radius:0px 0px 50px 50px; padding:2px 
20px;">The Fated

Next attaching audio to button clicks...

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