[tw5] Re: Filter question: get caption else use title

[TW Tones]

Saq Et al,

Some thinking an experiments. I miss the TWC For Each Tiddler macro, which 
the following comes closer to. Such changes could be added to a new widget, 
as the ;list widget is busy, similar to the list Widget such as 
"list-report Widget", permitting more than one value to be extracted from 
inside the filter.

On prerelease we now have a counter variable which allows the following;
<$list filter="[tag[Widgets]sort[title]]" counter=item>
  <>. <$link/>


In the above you can see there are two variables available inside the list, 
the currentTiddler (or named variable)  and now the named counter in this 
case item.

The thing is we use the title or currentTiddler interchangeably with only 
one output. We can addprefixes and generate new tiddler titles, extract a 
field but do not have access to the tiddler title we used to generate it. I 
was thinking what if we could assign the currentTiddler (result) to a 
variable in a filter making the currentTiddler available in the 
list/template.

<$list filter="[tag[Widgets]sort[title]var:varname[]] 
+[get[caption]else{!!title}]">
  <> <>

OR
<$list filter="[tag[Widgets]sort[title]] :var:description{!!description}] 
+[get[caption]else{!!title}]">
   <> - <> 


In the Above cases for each iteration of the list the currentTiddler would 
be the caption or title, but varname would contain the original tiddler 
title, keeping in mind you may not see it if the given tiddler is 
eliminated from the output.

Basically for each iteration of the first run above the output title will 
be stored in varname and passed on to the next run.
If this could be done more than once a lot could be extracted from one list.

*Using counter*
You could actually use the counter (less 1) as the select value in a set 
statement, to turn the counter into a reference to a tiddler.

<$set name=widget-list filter="[tag[Widgets]sort[title]]">
<$list filter="[enlist]" counter=item>
  <>. <$link/> {{!!caption}}
''Use set select with filter=<> here!''



Tones
On Tuesday, 15 June 2021 at 10:37:02 UTC+10 TW Tones wrote:

> Saq,
>
> Could you give some idea of how/why* It is going to be used in a context 
> where other wikitext cannot be introduced. ?*
>
>- Do you want it in a "filtered transclusion"? see below
>
>
> Of course the following does what you want but the currentTiddler is not 
> available inside the list.
>
> <$list filter="[tag[Widgets]sort[title]] +[get[caption]else{!!title}]">
>
> 
>
> This also achieves the same?
> In the template you have access to the current tiddler, in the same way as 
> my first response with an inline template?
>
> <$list filter="[tag[Widgets]sort[title]]" template="caption-or-title">
>
> 
>
> Where caption-or-title contains
> {{{ [all[current]get[caption]else{!!title}] }}}
>
> *In a filtered transclusion you can use a template*
> {{{ [tag[Widgets]sort[title]]||caption-or-title}}}
>
> I am interested in the challenge.
>
> Regards
> Tones
> On Tuesday, 15 June 2021 at 09:18:48 UTC+10 Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
>>
>>> Is the demand for a single filter expression a needed constraint?
>>>
>>
>>  Yes. It is going to be used in a context where other wikitext cannot be 
>> introduced. 
>> It is possible with the filter expression I posted but I'm curious if 
>> I've missed a simpler solution.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Force re-save of tiddlers whose file system path has changed

[Soren Bjornstad]

Thanks Joshua, this worked great!

For anyone else needing this, I switched off timestamps, then created a 
tiddler containing the following button:

<$button>
Do The Thing
<$list filter="[is[tiddler]]">
<$action-deletefield afieldthatdoesntexist="" />



Clicked the button, then turned timestamps back on, and all the changes 
showed up in Git as expected.

(For whatever reason the $action-deletefield form with 
$field="afieldthatdoesntexist" did not do anything when I clicked the 
button. Not sure what was up with that.)

On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 6:42:04 PM UTC-5 joshua@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Soren,
>
> I wrote most of the recent Node file-handling logic.
>
> I found the easiest way to "touch" a batch of tiddlers in order to force a 
> re-save is to $action-deletefield a NON-EXISTANT field from within a $list 
> (triggered by a $button).
>
> This forces the tw core to re-save a tiddler over the existing one (even 
> tho its the same) & this triggers the Sync mechanism.
>
> (You can also use this to "unpack" shadow tiddlers from within plugins, 
> forcing a "normal" tiddler that is the same as the shadow-copy.)
>
> Best,
> Joshua F
>
> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 3:53:42 PM UTC-7 Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>
>> Some time ago I tweaked the $:/config/FileSystemPaths in one of my wikis 
>> to place tiddlers into some different folders based on tags, as described 
>> here . 
>> However, I haven't modified all of these tiddlers yet, so months later some 
>> of them are still in the default location, making the division not all that 
>> helpful since it's difficult to know which location each item is in.
>>
>> Is there a way I can get TiddlyWiki to re-save all my tiddlers into the 
>> location they would be placed today, in bulk (ideally without updating 
>> their timestamps)? I could rig up a shell script, but that feels like it 
>> could be a lot of work.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting GG2TW Beta, a method to convert Google Groups Conversations to TW JSON Tids

[Finn Lancaster]

Fixed the illegible text issue! I added a few replace() and got rid of the 
method to escape I was using. Just tested the TW import, and works 
perfectly! Of course, this could all change if there happens to be a 
character that the program doesn't escape somewhere in the GG. However, I 
deem this rare, as I don't think there are any chars that I've forgot. Keep 
me informed of any issues; I intend to make the UI better soon. 

P.S.: I have encountered a crash in Chrome upon running the program. If 
anyone else has the issue, it is the program. So far, however, I'm thinking 
it's just my PC, as Chrome doesn't seem to like my outdated Linux version :)

On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 9:50:36 PM UTC-4 Finn Lancaster wrote:

> Yes. The 90 into 28 is taking into account responses to the conversations, 
> which will lower the count. GG just likes to make things difficult, so it 
> split them all up. Since the loading thing was not planned for at first, I 
> just connected it to my counter variable that is added to after every 
> successful request, hence the 90. In the code, there is an if statement 
> with a comment "code goes here." In the future, this part will deal with 
> the repeats.
>
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 8:59:51 PM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Random chars as you also found. But that was not the only thing. 90 of 90 
>> conversations ended up in 28 imported tiddlers. 
>>
>> The good news is that it kind of worked - as I am using a low end 12 year 
>> old laptop with 8 gb ram.
>>
>> Birthe
>> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 2:39:23 AM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Huh. Mine always glitches-out before TW successfully imports, so I've 
>>> never seen the actual output in TW. I'd always assumed it would have no 
>>> issues, since I've run the code through various JSON-checking sites, and it 
>>> has been labeled valid. Were the words legible with just random chars in 
>>> between, or was it just a jumble?
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 7:36:17 PM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I did get 90/90 conversations - it really did not take that long.I 
 exported the json and tried to drag and drop it into my tiddlywiki. It 
 worked - but totally unreadable.

 Still it is exciting news. What a good idea you had.

 Birthe
 On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 10:37:35 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Strange, it works for me. I added a loading message telling of how 
> many conversations were successfully loaded. If it stays at 0/90, then it 
> is truly an issue. Possibly it was just taking a long time (takes around 
> a 
> minute generally to fully finish, I find.) Let me know if it helps you! 
>
> *Another idea could be to clear history, cookies, etc. for all time, 
> and try again. If this works, it is an issue with the CORS proxy API I am 
> using. *
>
> To address Mat, yes, it does scrape the GG FIRST page (1-90 
> conversations, but some repeats). The output is an array of valid JSON 
> data, which is recognized by TW as JSON tiddlers, and TW will then import 
> them (drag and drop works best).
>
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 1:42:35 PM UTC-4 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>> Ciao flanc...
>>
>> The idea sounds neat! Unfortunately nothing happens for me :-(. I get 
>> this but no results appear on click ... :-( ...
>>
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2021-06-13 194045.jpg]
>>
>> Best wishes
>> TT
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Filter question: get caption else use title

[TW Tones]

Saq,

Could you give some idea of how/why* It is going to be used in a context 
where other wikitext cannot be introduced. ?*

   - Do you want it in a "filtered transclusion"? see below


Of course the following does what you want but the currentTiddler is not 
available inside the list.

<$list filter="[tag[Widgets]sort[title]] +[get[caption]else{!!title}]">



This also achieves the same?
In the template you have access to the current tiddler, in the same way as 
my first response with an inline template?

<$list filter="[tag[Widgets]sort[title]]" template="caption-or-title">



Where caption-or-title contains
{{{ [all[current]get[caption]else{!!title}] }}}

*In a filtered transclusion you can use a template*
{{{ [tag[Widgets]sort[title]]||caption-or-title}}}

I am interested in the challenge.

Regards
Tones
On Tuesday, 15 June 2021 at 09:18:48 UTC+10 Saq Imtiaz wrote:

>
>> Is the demand for a single filter expression a needed constraint?
>>
>
>  Yes. It is going to be used in a context where other wikitext cannot be 
> introduced. 
> It is possible with the filter expression I posted but I'm curious if I've 
> missed a simpler solution.
>

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[tw5] Re: Force re-save of tiddlers whose file system path has changed

[Joshua Fontany]

Hi Soren,

I wrote most of the recent Node file-handling logic.

I found the easiest way to "touch" a batch of tiddlers in order to force a 
re-save is to $action-deletefield a NON-EXISTANT field from within a $list 
(triggered by a $button).

This forces the tw core to re-save a tiddler over the existing one (even 
tho its the same) & this triggers the Sync mechanism.

(You can also use this to "unpack" shadow tiddlers from within plugins, 
forcing a "normal" tiddler that is the same as the shadow-copy.)

Best,
Joshua F

On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 3:53:42 PM UTC-7 Soren Bjornstad wrote:

> Some time ago I tweaked the $:/config/FileSystemPaths in one of my wikis 
> to place tiddlers into some different folders based on tags, as described 
> here . 
> However, I haven't modified all of these tiddlers yet, so months later some 
> of them are still in the default location, making the division not all that 
> helpful since it's difficult to know which location each item is in.
>
> Is there a way I can get TiddlyWiki to re-save all my tiddlers into the 
> location they would be placed today, in bulk (ideally without updating 
> their timestamps)? I could rig up a shell script, but that feels like it 
> could be a lot of work.
>

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[tw5] Re: Filter question: get caption else use title

[Saq Imtiaz]

>
>
> Is the demand for a single filter expression a needed constraint?
>

 Yes. It is going to be used in a context where other wikitext cannot be 
introduced. 
It is possible with the filter expression I posted but I'm curious if I've 
missed a simpler solution.

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[tw5] Re: Filter question: get caption else use title

[TW Tones]

Opps  [all[current]get[caption]else{!!title}] 

On Tuesday, 15 June 2021 at 09:00:25 UTC+10 TW Tones wrote:

> Saq,
>
> Is the demand for a single filter expression a needed constraint?, because 
> a filtered transclusion can be used to display the caption or title? Or am 
> I missing something?
>
> <$list filter="[tag[Widgets]]">
>   <$link><$text text={{{ [all[current]get[caption]else[{!!title}]] 
> }}}/>
> 
>
> Whilst we can squeeze more out of filters it is easy to overloads them, In 
> my above list the list filter relates to the selection the filtered 
> transclusion to the display of the item. They are distinct functions and 
> need not be combined. 
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
> On Tuesday, 15 June 2021 at 00:08:58 UTC+10 Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
>> I feel like there must be a very simple way to do this that I am missing.
>>
>> Given an ordered list of tiddler titles, in a *single filter expression*, 
>> replace the title with the caption if there is one, else keep the title - 
>> without changing the order.
>>
>> The only solution I came up with is convoluted (on pre-release):
>>
>> [tag[Widgets]] 
>> :reduce[get[caption]else{!!title}format:titlelist[]addprefix[ 
>> ]addprefix] +[enlist-input[]]
>>
>> where tag[Widgets] is a good stand-in for testing purposes for the 
>> ordered list, as not all of these tiddler on 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/ have captions but most do.
>> Is there a simpler alternative?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Saq
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Filter question: get caption else use title

[TW Tones]

Saq,

Is the demand for a single filter expression a needed constraint?, because 
a filtered transclusion can be used to display the caption or title? Or am 
I missing something?

<$list filter="[tag[Widgets]]">
  <$link><$text text={{{ [all[current]get[caption]else[{!!title}]] 
}}}/>


Whilst we can squeeze more out of filters it is easy to overloads them, In 
my above list the list filter relates to the selection the filtered 
transclusion to the display of the item. They are distinct functions and 
need not be combined. 

Regards
Tones

On Tuesday, 15 June 2021 at 00:08:58 UTC+10 Saq Imtiaz wrote:

> I feel like there must be a very simple way to do this that I am missing.
>
> Given an ordered list of tiddler titles, in a *single filter expression*, 
> replace the title with the caption if there is one, else keep the title - 
> without changing the order.
>
> The only solution I came up with is convoluted (on pre-release):
>
> [tag[Widgets]] 
> :reduce[get[caption]else{!!title}format:titlelist[]addprefix[ 
> ]addprefix] +[enlist-input[]]
>
> where tag[Widgets] is a good stand-in for testing purposes for the 
> ordered list, as not all of these tiddler on 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/ have captions but most do.
> Is there a simpler alternative?
>
> Cheers,
> Saq
>

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[tw5] Force re-save of tiddlers whose file system path has changed

[Soren Bjornstad]

Some time ago I tweaked the $:/config/FileSystemPaths in one of my wikis to 
place tiddlers into some different folders based on tags, as described here 
. However, I 
haven't modified all of these tiddlers yet, so months later some of them 
are still in the default location, making the division not all that helpful 
since it's difficult to know which location each item is in.

Is there a way I can get TiddlyWiki to re-save all my tiddlers into the 
location they would be placed today, in bulk (ideally without updating 
their timestamps)? I could rig up a shell script, but that feels like it 
could be a lot of work.

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[tw5] Re: twexe (the plugin) update

[TW Tones]

Folks,

I have read that the hta format may not be supported in the future, for 
tiddlywiki users however we still have tiddly desktop which has local 
computer rights, I have not tested the twexe in this thread on 
TiddlyDesktop but I expect it would work.

Using Internet Explorer is a liability given its end of life status, it has 
and possibly always was a target of hacks and Malware. Using the mshta.exe 
or an alternative can continue but only if supported.

Regards
Tones


On Tuesday, 15 June 2021 at 06:11:01 UTC+10 james.w@gmail.com wrote:

> Ah yeah, some of the newer features are not there yet.
>
>
> On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 20:33:45 UTC+1 Si wrote:
>
>> >>> what's the details tag? 
>>
>> It's an HTML element that you can click on to hide/reveal a block of 
>> text: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/details
>>
>> There's a handy TW implementation here: 
>> https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2Fdetails
>>
>> It was added recently enough that it is not supported by Internet 
>> Explorer. It's just one example, I'm sure there are all sorts of things 
>> that have been added to new browsers which won't work in older ones.
>>
>> On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 19:31:48 UTC+1 james.w@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> what's the details tag?
>>>
>>> On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 19:04:51 UTC+1 Si wrote:
>>>
 Hi James,

 >>> I don't think it's true that you need Internet Explorer for any of 
 this, it's runs under the  mshta.exe which should ship with windows. 

 It seems that mshta.exe relies on the Internet Explorer engine (not 
 that I know what that means...): 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_Application#Execution

 Anyway a wiki running as an hta app looks just like it does when 
 running in IE, and more recent web stuff doesn't work (e.g. the details 
 tag). My main wiki won't even open in IE (or as an hta) due to some of the 
 plugins I have installed.

 >>> if you are still interested i can maybe help look at any issues you 
 are hitting 

 Thank you! Though I've now figured out my mistake: I was using a folder 
 for twexe_cmd that didn't exist! Works as expected now.

 >>> I don't knoe if this is still needed but i have another plugin  
 $:/plugins/welford/htalink/link.js which makes the wiki open links in the 
 default browser. 

 I didn't install that plugin and it still works, but I only did a 
 simple test.

 On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 17:40:08 UTC+1 james.w@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Si, I don't think it's true that you need Internet Explorer for 
> any of this, it's runs under the  mshta.exe which should ship with 
> windows. I certainly don't have IE installed on my system - but you will 
> need windows.
>
> I don't knoe if this is still needed but i have another plugin  
> $:/plugins/welford/htalink/link.js which makes the wiki open links in the 
> default browser.
>
> if you are still interested i can maybe help look at any issues you 
> are hitting: Excuse the crude picture but setting up a twexe should be 
> pretty simple. this one opens calc and then is linked to twice in another 
> doc, first as it is and then a second time with overridden params.
>
> [image: asdf.png]
>
> On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 16:17:21 UTC+1 Si wrote:
>
>> Hi James thanks for the reply. Just trying it I actually can't even 
>> get it to work with a batch file ("The filename, directory name, or 
>> volume 
>> label syntax is incorrect"). This doesn't matter however because I also 
>> now 
>> realize that .hta will use internet explorer to run the app, which means 
>> unfortunately I can't use this for my wiki anyway.
>>
>> On Sunday, 13 June 2021 at 20:09:25 UTC+1 james.w@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just tested and unfortunately not right now.
>>>
>>> I have a few places where i call 
>>> WshShell.Run( "cmd /c " + path + " " + args ); From a quick google 
>>> making 
>>> the "cmd /c" part call "powershell -File " maybe with some other 
>>> settings 
>>> like -executionpolicy unrestricted.
>>>
>>> I know next to nothing about powershell though.
>>>
>>> if you take a look at 
>>> http://welford.github.io/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fwelford%2Ftwexe%2Ftwexe.js
>>> specifically 
>>> TWExeWidget.prototype.runTiddler = function (event) {
>>> TWExeWidget.prototype.openFile = function (event) {
>>>
>>> and can give me a working string format for  powershell scripts i 
>>> can update the plugin to provide the shell in which it will run via a 
>>> field. e.g. twexe_shell: powershell, so that we can support both.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 13 June 2021 at 19:18:45 UTC+1 Si wrote:
>>>
 Thanks James I did not know this existed! I was looking for 

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

[springer]

Frank, I've added your designs to the collection at  
https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/

If you'd like to add any descriptive titles, or author name beyond "Frank 
B", let me know.

-Springer

On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 5:21:11 PM UTC-4 f.brunsb...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have four ideas. The first two classic square. The last two with 
> alternative borders. 
> But I think with a banner underneath the round variant does not look 
> good...
>
> [image: entw1.png] [image: entw2.png]  
> [image: entw4.png]  [image: entw3.png]
>
> mwik...@gmail.com schrieb am Montag, 14. Juni 2021 um 19:43:20 UTC+2:
>
>> Inspired by Mat, here are my "Dragon Drop" entries on the "field" of a 
>> shield : ] 
>>
>> I am no artist but it is fun to share and practice my Inkscape skills and 
>> hopefully inspire someone with more talent than me. SVGs are available to 
>> anyone who wants them.
>>
>> /Mike
>>
>> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:28:41 AM UTC-3 Mat wrote:
>>
>>> Or perhaps a water drop and a fire-breathing giant reptile ("Dragon 
 Drop")

>>>
>>> Yeah! Or a dragon 
>>> spouting
>>>  
>>> water/drops! Just above the TiddlyWiki: 5.2.0 field thingy. That would make 
>>> for a really cool and odd art work.
>>> *And it is even a super cool version name: "Dragon Drop"! *(even if, 
>>> admittedly, the drag'n drop we are discussing here is limited. It would be 
>>> an even more suitable name for if tiddlers were freely movable)
>>>
>>> <:-)
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] PrintRiver plugin

[axelmich...@gmail.com]

Hello BTC,

Thank you very much  for the update. You enable an essential feature of 
Tiddlywiki with your plugin.
I  am thankful for it.

Best regards
Axel

S² schrieb am Samstag, 12. Juni 2021 um 23:40:59 UTC+2:

> Hello BTC,
>
> *you made it - great, thanks!*
>
> One remark:
> Each time, when I print a tiddler an I uncheck eg: title, a new file will 
> be generated in '*$:/state/PrintRiver/..*.'.
> This information is not important to store - temporary it is ok, but it 
> should be removed, when PrintRiver window is closed (and Printqueue is 
> empty).
> Otherwise, the Wiki will be filled up...
>
> There is also that '*$:/HistoryList*' - this can also be limited to eg 5 
> entries (*F*irst*-I*n-*F*irst-*O*ut).
>
> Thanks for your effort
> Stefan
> BurningTreeC schrieb am Samstag, 12. Juni 2021 um 11:44:19 UTC+2:
>
>> Hello  S²,
>>
>> I've updated the plugin so that one can set font-size and line-height for 
>> the new windows and tiddler-bodies
>>
>> Tell me if that works out well for you
>>
>> best wishes, BTC
>>
>> S² schrieb am Samstag, 12. Juni 2021 um 09:24:30 UTC+2:
>>
>>> Hello BTC,
>>>
>>> thanks a lot for your effort.
>>> I really appreciate this PrintRiver plugin!
>>>
>>> I use in my Wiki / Theme Tweaks bigger font settings:  
>>>
>>> Font size: 18px
>>> Line height: 22px
>>> Font size for tiddler: body: 20px
>>> Line height for tiddler body: 24px
>>>
>>> Text is formatted with H1, H2, H3... 
>>>
>>> For printing I'd like to have same formating but all much smaller (eg. 
>>> font size 10px).
>>> How can this be configured?
>>>
>>> Thanks for feedback
>>> Stefan
>>>
>>> BurningTreeC schrieb am Freitag, 11. Juni 2021 um 17:03:14 UTC+2:
>>>
 Hello TiddlyWiki community,

 The new PrintRiver plugin is online :)

 You can find it at 
 https://burningtreec.github.io/tiddlywiki-printriver/

 As always, I'm open for ideas, criticism and bug reports

 Best wishes, BTC

>>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Wiki Spaced Repetition Plugin

[James Anderson]

http://welford.github.io/twsr.html

Got some bug reports on the scheduler, it was broken after reviewing the 
same card a few times. should be fixed now.

Based on what Mohammad said above, I've added the ability to enable the 
"answer" widget outside of the scheduler, which is enabled 
with $:/tags/twsr/hide tag:

http://welford.github.io/twsr.html#Answers%20without%20Scheduling


On Saturday, 5 June 2021 at 19:30:23 UTC+1 James Anderson wrote:

> Another small update (probably last one for a while), moved the example 
> here http://welford.github.io/twsr.html
>
> - Allow nested answers.
> - cleaned up some of the config names
> - fixed: ignore tags did not work with already scheduled tiddlers
> - fixed: answers did not mask tables.
>
> [image: Animation.gif]
>
> On Monday, 31 May 2021 at 22:54:34 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Very nice! I love the <$answer> to show the answer gradually!
>> One can use it on a presentation (like a lecture in the class and show 
>> students parts gradually)
>>
>> Lovely! Thank you
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 1:26 AM James Anderson  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> No worries, i've fixed the ⚙ pointer problem.
>>>
>>> I've also added an <$answer> widget that obscures segments of the 
>>> tiddler, that you can view by clicking on them. the second card in this gif:
>>>
>>> [image: Animation.gif]
>>>
>>> http://welford.github.io/kanji.html
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> James
>>>
>>> On Monday, 31 May 2021 at 21:35:39 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>>>


 On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 12:23 PM James Anderson  
 wrote:

> Hi Mohammad,


 Hi James

 Many thanks for your detailed explanation!
 Yes, Now I know how it works! Very flexible design!
 Thank you again!

 Best wishes
 Mohammad

  

>
> I will fix the mouse cursor issue.
>
> > Is it possible to have a data tiddler or JSON act as a source of 
> Q/A? Of course having this as an extra!
>
> I'm not quite sure what you mean. In the kanji example ( 
> http://welford.github.io/kanji.html ) the input from the SRS is other 
> tiddlers tagged with specific tags. 
>
> It's explained with more detail in the example, but the basic idea is 
> that you tag a single tiddler with $:/tags/twsr to mark it as containing 
> the SRS UI for revision. You can then add additional tags to that tiddler 
> for subjects you wish to study. In this case it's Japanese characters 
> with 
> 1 to 5 strokes (which is a pool of 113 tiddlers to be used as flash cards)
>
> > For example for language learning word: definition can be simply 
> stored in data tiddler!
>
> Unless i am misunderstanding, this is what the Kanji example achieves.
>
> (1 ) below is the scheduled card, because i am using he <$question> 
> section only the character i wish to learn is displayed.
> (2) Is the display when i click show answer, which should just show 
> the original tiddler as it is.
> (3) is the original tiddler shown normally. It's tagged with 二画 which 
> gets it picked up the SRS scheduling tiddlers. 
>
>  [image: 無題.png]
>
> Which tags you use however is completely up to you, you could have 
> "french definitive article" tags and do something like this in your 
> tiddlers
>
> ```
> *<$question>?? chien et ?? chat s’entendent bien.*
> *Le chien et le chat s’entendent bien.*
> *```*
>
>
> *[image: 1無題.png]*
>
> *Does that cover what you mean?*
>
> *thanks,*
> *James*
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, 31 May 2021 at 04:38:07 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Hi James
>> Very nice and thank you for improving!
>>
>> Some small suggestions on UI mainly
>> 1. On mouse hover on gear button use the pointer shape for cursor! 
>> Now it behaves like input textbox
>> 2. Good to organize the small tutorial, so a newbie like me can 
>> understand how to create SR step by stp
>>
>>
>> Other comments:
>> Is it possible to have a data tiddler or JSON act as a source of Q/A? 
>> Of course having this as an extra!
>> For example for language learning word: definition can be simply 
>> stored in data tiddler!
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 1:06 AM James Anderson  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> > I'm all for getting different approaches out there so we can learn 
>>> from each other.
>>> agreed :)
>>>
>>> I've updated this plugin, you can now configure pretty much 
>>> everyting and have mutiple config files and interfaces per deck/tag
>>>
>>> Example here: http://welford.github.io/kanji.html , which adds a 
>>> second config for studying using the config tag "kanji study" which has 
>>> customised labels, adding brackets (1,2,3 instead of 1,5,10) and 
>>> grading 

[tw5] Re: twexe (the plugin) update

[James Anderson]

Ah yeah, some of the newer features are not there yet.


On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 20:33:45 UTC+1 Si wrote:

> >>> what's the details tag? 
>
> It's an HTML element that you can click on to hide/reveal a block of text: 
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/details
>
> There's a handy TW implementation here: 
> https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2Fdetails
>
> It was added recently enough that it is not supported by Internet 
> Explorer. It's just one example, I'm sure there are all sorts of things 
> that have been added to new browsers which won't work in older ones.
>
> On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 19:31:48 UTC+1 james.w@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> what's the details tag?
>>
>> On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 19:04:51 UTC+1 Si wrote:
>>
>>> Hi James,
>>>
>>> >>> I don't think it's true that you need Internet Explorer for any of 
>>> this, it's runs under the  mshta.exe which should ship with windows. 
>>>
>>> It seems that mshta.exe relies on the Internet Explorer engine (not that 
>>> I know what that means...): 
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_Application#Execution
>>>
>>> Anyway a wiki running as an hta app looks just like it does when running 
>>> in IE, and more recent web stuff doesn't work (e.g. the details tag). My 
>>> main wiki won't even open in IE (or as an hta) due to some of the plugins I 
>>> have installed.
>>>
>>> >>> if you are still interested i can maybe help look at any issues you 
>>> are hitting 
>>>
>>> Thank you! Though I've now figured out my mistake: I was using a folder 
>>> for twexe_cmd that didn't exist! Works as expected now.
>>>
>>> >>> I don't knoe if this is still needed but i have another plugin  
>>> $:/plugins/welford/htalink/link.js which makes the wiki open links in the 
>>> default browser. 
>>>
>>> I didn't install that plugin and it still works, but I only did a simple 
>>> test.
>>>
>>> On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 17:40:08 UTC+1 james.w@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hey Si, I don't think it's true that you need Internet Explorer for any 
 of this, it's runs under the  mshta.exe which should ship with windows. I 
 certainly don't have IE installed on my system - but you will need windows.

 I don't knoe if this is still needed but i have another plugin  
 $:/plugins/welford/htalink/link.js which makes the wiki open links in the 
 default browser.

 if you are still interested i can maybe help look at any issues you are 
 hitting: Excuse the crude picture but setting up a twexe should be pretty 
 simple. this one opens calc and then is linked to twice in another doc, 
 first as it is and then a second time with overridden params.

 [image: asdf.png]

 On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 16:17:21 UTC+1 Si wrote:

> Hi James thanks for the reply. Just trying it I actually can't even 
> get it to work with a batch file ("The filename, directory name, or 
> volume 
> label syntax is incorrect"). This doesn't matter however because I also 
> now 
> realize that .hta will use internet explorer to run the app, which means 
> unfortunately I can't use this for my wiki anyway.
>
> On Sunday, 13 June 2021 at 20:09:25 UTC+1 james.w@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Just tested and unfortunately not right now.
>>
>> I have a few places where i call 
>> WshShell.Run( "cmd /c " + path + " " + args ); From a quick google 
>> making 
>> the "cmd /c" part call "powershell -File " maybe with some other 
>> settings 
>> like -executionpolicy unrestricted.
>>
>> I know next to nothing about powershell though.
>>
>> if you take a look at 
>> http://welford.github.io/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fwelford%2Ftwexe%2Ftwexe.js
>> specifically 
>> TWExeWidget.prototype.runTiddler = function (event) {
>> TWExeWidget.prototype.openFile = function (event) {
>>
>> and can give me a working string format for  powershell scripts i can 
>> update the plugin to provide the shell in which it will run via a field. 
>> e.g. twexe_shell: powershell, so that we can support both.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, 13 June 2021 at 19:18:45 UTC+1 Si wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks James I did not know this existed! I was looking for 
>>> something similar a while ago.
>>>
>>> Can you use it to run PowerShell scripts?
>>> On Tuesday, 4 May 2021 at 13:31:27 UTC+1 james.w@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Incase any windows/hta users still use this:

 I've updated this plugin. the source is here: 
 https://github.com/welford/twexe and you can grab a copy of the 
 updated plugin from http://welford.github.io/

 The big change is that you can run the contents of a tiddler as a 
 batch file, which should help keep things portable (between machines / 
 environments, not cross platform). 

 It will create 

[tw5] Re: Issue with PrintRiver plugin

[S²]

Thanks to BTC - he updated PrintRiver plugin:
see https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/tDvzcqNtOZ4/m/H6Y4IyvbAgAJ

Stefan
axelmich...@gmail.com schrieb am Dienstag, 8. Juni 2021 um 11:58:56 UTC+2:

> That would be a hgreat thing, BTC!
>
> I am  looking forward to  see an updated version  of the PrintRiver plugin!
>
> Best regards
> Axel
>
> BurningTreeC schrieb am Freitag, 4. Juni 2021 um 16:51:21 UTC+2:
>
>> Hi there, sorry that I've seen this post so late
>>
>> I'll definitively update the PrintRiver plugin and keep it up to date in 
>> the future
>>
>> I need some time for that, but maybe the next week or the week after it 
>> could be ready
>>
>> Best wishes, BTC
>>
>> steph@gmail.com schrieb am Freitag, 4. Juni 2021 um 16:38:34 UTC+2:
>>
>>> I'd like t bump this too -- PrintRiver looked like a great plugin 
>>> solution to an important problem! 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 10:34:04 PM UTC-4 R² wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 Bumping this up as I have the same issue as S². Has anyone found a way 
 forward or knows how to contact BurningTreeC (as he is still contributing 
 to TiddlyWiki according to his Github page). The plugin works fine on 
 http://printriver.tiddlyspot.com/, which runs on TW 5.1.17. What could 
 have broken it? 

 Best,
 R²

>>>

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[tw5] Re: twexe (the plugin) update

[Si]

>>> what's the details tag? 

It's an HTML element that you can click on to hide/reveal a block of text: 
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/details

There's a handy TW implementation here: 
https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2Fdetails

It was added recently enough that it is not supported by Internet Explorer. 
It's just one example, I'm sure there are all sorts of things that have 
been added to new browsers which won't work in older ones.

On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 19:31:48 UTC+1 james.w@gmail.com wrote:

> what's the details tag?
>
> On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 19:04:51 UTC+1 Si wrote:
>
>> Hi James,
>>
>> >>> I don't think it's true that you need Internet Explorer for any of 
>> this, it's runs under the  mshta.exe which should ship with windows. 
>>
>> It seems that mshta.exe relies on the Internet Explorer engine (not that 
>> I know what that means...): 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_Application#Execution
>>
>> Anyway a wiki running as an hta app looks just like it does when running 
>> in IE, and more recent web stuff doesn't work (e.g. the details tag). My 
>> main wiki won't even open in IE (or as an hta) due to some of the plugins I 
>> have installed.
>>
>> >>> if you are still interested i can maybe help look at any issues you 
>> are hitting 
>>
>> Thank you! Though I've now figured out my mistake: I was using a folder 
>> for twexe_cmd that didn't exist! Works as expected now.
>>
>> >>> I don't knoe if this is still needed but i have another plugin  
>> $:/plugins/welford/htalink/link.js which makes the wiki open links in the 
>> default browser. 
>>
>> I didn't install that plugin and it still works, but I only did a simple 
>> test.
>>
>> On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 17:40:08 UTC+1 james.w@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Si, I don't think it's true that you need Internet Explorer for any 
>>> of this, it's runs under the  mshta.exe which should ship with windows. I 
>>> certainly don't have IE installed on my system - but you will need windows.
>>>
>>> I don't knoe if this is still needed but i have another plugin  
>>> $:/plugins/welford/htalink/link.js which makes the wiki open links in the 
>>> default browser.
>>>
>>> if you are still interested i can maybe help look at any issues you are 
>>> hitting: Excuse the crude picture but setting up a twexe should be pretty 
>>> simple. this one opens calc and then is linked to twice in another doc, 
>>> first as it is and then a second time with overridden params.
>>>
>>> [image: asdf.png]
>>>
>>> On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 16:17:21 UTC+1 Si wrote:
>>>
 Hi James thanks for the reply. Just trying it I actually can't even get 
 it to work with a batch file ("The filename, directory name, or volume 
 label syntax is incorrect"). This doesn't matter however because I also 
 now 
 realize that .hta will use internet explorer to run the app, which means 
 unfortunately I can't use this for my wiki anyway.

 On Sunday, 13 June 2021 at 20:09:25 UTC+1 james.w@gmail.com wrote:

> Just tested and unfortunately not right now.
>
> I have a few places where i call 
> WshShell.Run( "cmd /c " + path + " " + args ); From a quick google making 
> the "cmd /c" part call "powershell -File " maybe with some other settings 
> like -executionpolicy unrestricted.
>
> I know next to nothing about powershell though.
>
> if you take a look at 
> http://welford.github.io/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fwelford%2Ftwexe%2Ftwexe.js
> specifically 
> TWExeWidget.prototype.runTiddler = function (event) {
> TWExeWidget.prototype.openFile = function (event) {
>
> and can give me a working string format for  powershell scripts i can 
> update the plugin to provide the shell in which it will run via a field. 
> e.g. twexe_shell: powershell, so that we can support both.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, 13 June 2021 at 19:18:45 UTC+1 Si wrote:
>
>> Thanks James I did not know this existed! I was looking for something 
>> similar a while ago.
>>
>> Can you use it to run PowerShell scripts?
>> On Tuesday, 4 May 2021 at 13:31:27 UTC+1 james.w@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Incase any windows/hta users still use this:
>>>
>>> I've updated this plugin. the source is here: 
>>> https://github.com/welford/twexe and you can grab a copy of the 
>>> updated plugin from http://welford.github.io/
>>>
>>> The big change is that you can run the contents of a tiddler as a 
>>> batch file, which should help keep things portable (between machines / 
>>> environments, not cross platform). 
>>>
>>> It will create a temporary twexe.bat file in %TEMP% fill it with the 
>>> contents of the tiddler and then run it. You can change the default 
>>> temporary location via  $:/plugins/welford/twexe/tmpdir
>>>
>>> in the attached image i have two examples, one will 

Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Thank you Si,

No problem! your feedback is much appreciated!



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 8:06 PM Si  wrote:

> Hi Mohammed,
>
> Sorry I didn't see this original reply so I only responded to your second
> comment!
>
> >>> Maybe we can have a "sweat tweak" plugin ;-) to include such things?
> >>> I think these are:
> >>> - two column story river
> >>> - colorful tabs
> >>> - colorful view toolbars and hide/show on mouse hover
>
> Yes I personally think that this would be better. The original Shiraz for
> "Macros for creating stylish content in TiddlyWiki", and a new plugin for
> "Theme tweaks" (e.g. light/dark mode, colorful sidebar tabs etc). I think
> that narrower categorisation will make it easier for new users to grasp how
> they can apply these tools.
>
> That's just my opinion - I will continue to use Shiraz regardless, and I
> appreciate the work you have put in to all your plugins!
>
> On Sunday, 6 June 2021 at 15:34:43 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Hi Si,
>>  Many thanks for your comments!
>> Ideas and opinions are always welcome !
>> Sure I note this and will consider it in the next release!
>> Maybe we can have a "sweat tweak" plugin ;-) to include such things?
>> I think these are:
>> - two column story river
>> - colorful tabs
>> - colorful view toolbars and hide/show on mouse hover
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 5:06 PM si  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mohammed,
>>>
>>
>>> I've been using Shiraz for a while now, and its super amazing and
>>> useful, however I have noticed that it has some features that feel like
>>> they should belong in a separate plugin.
>>>
>>> Specifically there are a few features that don't have much do do with
>>> creating stylish content, and more what I would consider "theme tweaks".
>>> For example:
>>>
>>>- Colorify sidebar tabs
>>>- Button for light/dark mode
>>>- Tiddler visibility on mouse hover
>>>
>>> I am referring essentially to everything under the Shiraz settings tab.
>>> These are all extremely useful tools, but I just think they diverge quite
>>> far from your description of Shiraz:
>>>
>>> >>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to
>>> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki.
>>>
>>> Currently if a user installs Shiraz, they will also find that their wiki
>>> theming has been tweaked, and will have to go to the settings tab if they
>>> want to turn everything off. In my opinion it would make more sense to
>>> these tweaks into a separate plugin so that the user can choose whether or
>>> not to install them.
>>>
>>> I hope this doesn't sound critical, as Shiraz is one of my favourite TW
>>> plugins. It's just my personal opinion and I'm curious if there is a logic
>>> to including theme tweaks and styling macros as part of the same plugin
>>> that I am not seeing?
>>>
>> On Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 09:30:08 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!

 Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to
 create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements
 like alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges,
 texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.

 Code and demo

- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz

 *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new
 plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
 Revision 2.3.0


- Date: [10th May 2021]
- [NEW] Palette switch on the page controls
- [NEW] Setting for default light and dark (or dim) palette (see
Sidebar More Tab, Shiraz)
- [NEW] Slider macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and
extracts the text automatically
- [NEW] Details macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and
extracts the text automatically
- [FIXED] small type in card-image macro



 If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz



 Best wishes
 Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: twexe (the plugin) update

[James Anderson]

what's the details tag?

On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 19:04:51 UTC+1 Si wrote:

> Hi James,
>
> >>> I don't think it's true that you need Internet Explorer for any of 
> this, it's runs under the  mshta.exe which should ship with windows. 
>
> It seems that mshta.exe relies on the Internet Explorer engine (not that I 
> know what that means...): 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_Application#Execution
>
> Anyway a wiki running as an hta app looks just like it does when running 
> in IE, and more recent web stuff doesn't work (e.g. the details tag). My 
> main wiki won't even open in IE (or as an hta) due to some of the plugins I 
> have installed.
>
> >>> if you are still interested i can maybe help look at any issues you 
> are hitting 
>
> Thank you! Though I've now figured out my mistake: I was using a folder 
> for twexe_cmd that didn't exist! Works as expected now.
>
> >>> I don't knoe if this is still needed but i have another plugin  
> $:/plugins/welford/htalink/link.js which makes the wiki open links in the 
> default browser. 
>
> I didn't install that plugin and it still works, but I only did a simple 
> test.
>
> On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 17:40:08 UTC+1 james.w@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey Si, I don't think it's true that you need Internet Explorer for any 
>> of this, it's runs under the  mshta.exe which should ship with windows. I 
>> certainly don't have IE installed on my system - but you will need windows.
>>
>> I don't knoe if this is still needed but i have another plugin  
>> $:/plugins/welford/htalink/link.js which makes the wiki open links in the 
>> default browser.
>>
>> if you are still interested i can maybe help look at any issues you are 
>> hitting: Excuse the crude picture but setting up a twexe should be pretty 
>> simple. this one opens calc and then is linked to twice in another doc, 
>> first as it is and then a second time with overridden params.
>>
>> [image: asdf.png]
>>
>> On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 16:17:21 UTC+1 Si wrote:
>>
>>> Hi James thanks for the reply. Just trying it I actually can't even get 
>>> it to work with a batch file ("The filename, directory name, or volume 
>>> label syntax is incorrect"). This doesn't matter however because I also now 
>>> realize that .hta will use internet explorer to run the app, which means 
>>> unfortunately I can't use this for my wiki anyway.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 13 June 2021 at 20:09:25 UTC+1 james.w@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Just tested and unfortunately not right now.

 I have a few places where i call 
 WshShell.Run( "cmd /c " + path + " " + args ); From a quick google making 
 the "cmd /c" part call "powershell -File " maybe with some other settings 
 like -executionpolicy unrestricted.

 I know next to nothing about powershell though.

 if you take a look at 
 http://welford.github.io/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fwelford%2Ftwexe%2Ftwexe.js
 specifically 
 TWExeWidget.prototype.runTiddler = function (event) {
 TWExeWidget.prototype.openFile = function (event) {

 and can give me a working string format for  powershell scripts i can 
 update the plugin to provide the shell in which it will run via a field. 
 e.g. twexe_shell: powershell, so that we can support both.



 On Sunday, 13 June 2021 at 19:18:45 UTC+1 Si wrote:

> Thanks James I did not know this existed! I was looking for something 
> similar a while ago.
>
> Can you use it to run PowerShell scripts?
> On Tuesday, 4 May 2021 at 13:31:27 UTC+1 james.w@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Incase any windows/hta users still use this:
>>
>> I've updated this plugin. the source is here: 
>> https://github.com/welford/twexe and you can grab a copy of the 
>> updated plugin from http://welford.github.io/
>>
>> The big change is that you can run the contents of a tiddler as a 
>> batch file, which should help keep things portable (between machines / 
>> environments, not cross platform). 
>>
>> It will create a temporary twexe.bat file in %TEMP% fill it with the 
>> contents of the tiddler and then run it. You can change the default 
>> temporary location via  $:/plugins/welford/twexe/tmpdir
>>
>> in the attached image i have two examples, one will run my local 
>> node.js tw, the other just an example batch file that prints hello and 
>> the 
>> first arg passed to it.
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: twexe (the plugin) update

[Si]

Hi James,

>>> I don't think it's true that you need Internet Explorer for any of 
this, it's runs under the  mshta.exe which should ship with windows. 

It seems that mshta.exe relies on the Internet Explorer engine (not that I 
know what that means...): 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_Application#Execution

Anyway a wiki running as an hta app looks just like it does when running in 
IE, and more recent web stuff doesn't work (e.g. the details tag). My main 
wiki won't even open in IE (or as an hta) due to some of the plugins I have 
installed.

>>> if you are still interested i can maybe help look at any issues you are 
hitting 

Thank you! Though I've now figured out my mistake: I was using a folder for 
twexe_cmd that didn't exist! Works as expected now.

>>> I don't knoe if this is still needed but i have another plugin  
$:/plugins/welford/htalink/link.js which makes the wiki open links in the 
default browser. 

I didn't install that plugin and it still works, but I only did a simple 
test.

On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 17:40:08 UTC+1 james.w@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Si, I don't think it's true that you need Internet Explorer for any of 
> this, it's runs under the  mshta.exe which should ship with windows. I 
> certainly don't have IE installed on my system - but you will need windows.
>
> I don't knoe if this is still needed but i have another plugin  
> $:/plugins/welford/htalink/link.js which makes the wiki open links in the 
> default browser.
>
> if you are still interested i can maybe help look at any issues you are 
> hitting: Excuse the crude picture but setting up a twexe should be pretty 
> simple. this one opens calc and then is linked to twice in another doc, 
> first as it is and then a second time with overridden params.
>
> [image: asdf.png]
>
> On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 16:17:21 UTC+1 Si wrote:
>
>> Hi James thanks for the reply. Just trying it I actually can't even get 
>> it to work with a batch file ("The filename, directory name, or volume 
>> label syntax is incorrect"). This doesn't matter however because I also now 
>> realize that .hta will use internet explorer to run the app, which means 
>> unfortunately I can't use this for my wiki anyway.
>>
>> On Sunday, 13 June 2021 at 20:09:25 UTC+1 james.w@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Just tested and unfortunately not right now.
>>>
>>> I have a few places where i call 
>>> WshShell.Run( "cmd /c " + path + " " + args ); From a quick google making 
>>> the "cmd /c" part call "powershell -File " maybe with some other settings 
>>> like -executionpolicy unrestricted.
>>>
>>> I know next to nothing about powershell though.
>>>
>>> if you take a look at 
>>> http://welford.github.io/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fwelford%2Ftwexe%2Ftwexe.js
>>> specifically 
>>> TWExeWidget.prototype.runTiddler = function (event) {
>>> TWExeWidget.prototype.openFile = function (event) {
>>>
>>> and can give me a working string format for  powershell scripts i can 
>>> update the plugin to provide the shell in which it will run via a field. 
>>> e.g. twexe_shell: powershell, so that we can support both.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 13 June 2021 at 19:18:45 UTC+1 Si wrote:
>>>
 Thanks James I did not know this existed! I was looking for something 
 similar a while ago.

 Can you use it to run PowerShell scripts?
 On Tuesday, 4 May 2021 at 13:31:27 UTC+1 james.w@gmail.com wrote:

> Incase any windows/hta users still use this:
>
> I've updated this plugin. the source is here: 
> https://github.com/welford/twexe and you can grab a copy of the 
> updated plugin from http://welford.github.io/
>
> The big change is that you can run the contents of a tiddler as a 
> batch file, which should help keep things portable (between machines / 
> environments, not cross platform). 
>
> It will create a temporary twexe.bat file in %TEMP% fill it with the 
> contents of the tiddler and then run it. You can change the default 
> temporary location via  $:/plugins/welford/twexe/tmpdir
>
> in the attached image i have two examples, one will run my local 
> node.js tw, the other just an example batch file that prints hello and 
> the 
> first arg passed to it.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: twexe (the plugin) update

[James Anderson]

looks like we do still use htalink, i probably should just fold it into 
twexe

On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 17:40:08 UTC+1 James Anderson wrote:

> Hey Si, I don't think it's true that you need Internet Explorer for any of 
> this, it's runs under the  mshta.exe which should ship with windows. I 
> certainly don't have IE installed on my system - but you will need windows.
>
> I don't knoe if this is still needed but i have another plugin  
> $:/plugins/welford/htalink/link.js which makes the wiki open links in the 
> default browser.
>
> if you are still interested i can maybe help look at any issues you are 
> hitting: Excuse the crude picture but setting up a twexe should be pretty 
> simple. this one opens calc and then is linked to twice in another doc, 
> first as it is and then a second time with overridden params.
>
> [image: asdf.png]
>
> On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 16:17:21 UTC+1 Si wrote:
>
>> Hi James thanks for the reply. Just trying it I actually can't even get 
>> it to work with a batch file ("The filename, directory name, or volume 
>> label syntax is incorrect"). This doesn't matter however because I also now 
>> realize that .hta will use internet explorer to run the app, which means 
>> unfortunately I can't use this for my wiki anyway.
>>
>> On Sunday, 13 June 2021 at 20:09:25 UTC+1 james.w@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Just tested and unfortunately not right now.
>>>
>>> I have a few places where i call 
>>> WshShell.Run( "cmd /c " + path + " " + args ); From a quick google making 
>>> the "cmd /c" part call "powershell -File " maybe with some other settings 
>>> like -executionpolicy unrestricted.
>>>
>>> I know next to nothing about powershell though.
>>>
>>> if you take a look at 
>>> http://welford.github.io/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fwelford%2Ftwexe%2Ftwexe.js
>>> specifically 
>>> TWExeWidget.prototype.runTiddler = function (event) {
>>> TWExeWidget.prototype.openFile = function (event) {
>>>
>>> and can give me a working string format for  powershell scripts i can 
>>> update the plugin to provide the shell in which it will run via a field. 
>>> e.g. twexe_shell: powershell, so that we can support both.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 13 June 2021 at 19:18:45 UTC+1 Si wrote:
>>>
 Thanks James I did not know this existed! I was looking for something 
 similar a while ago.

 Can you use it to run PowerShell scripts?
 On Tuesday, 4 May 2021 at 13:31:27 UTC+1 james.w@gmail.com wrote:

> Incase any windows/hta users still use this:
>
> I've updated this plugin. the source is here: 
> https://github.com/welford/twexe and you can grab a copy of the 
> updated plugin from http://welford.github.io/
>
> The big change is that you can run the contents of a tiddler as a 
> batch file, which should help keep things portable (between machines / 
> environments, not cross platform). 
>
> It will create a temporary twexe.bat file in %TEMP% fill it with the 
> contents of the tiddler and then run it. You can change the default 
> temporary location via  $:/plugins/welford/twexe/tmpdir
>
> in the attached image i have two examples, one will run my local 
> node.js tw, the other just an example batch file that prints hello and 
> the 
> first arg passed to it.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: twexe (the plugin) update

[James Anderson]

Hey Si, I don't think it's true that you need Internet Explorer for any of 
this, it's runs under the  mshta.exe which should ship with windows. I 
certainly don't have IE installed on my system - but you will need windows.

I don't knoe if this is still needed but i have another plugin  
$:/plugins/welford/htalink/link.js which makes the wiki open links in the 
default browser.

if you are still interested i can maybe help look at any issues you are 
hitting: Excuse the crude picture but setting up a twexe should be pretty 
simple. this one opens calc and then is linked to twice in another doc, 
first as it is and then a second time with overridden params.

[image: asdf.png]

On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 16:17:21 UTC+1 Si wrote:

> Hi James thanks for the reply. Just trying it I actually can't even get it 
> to work with a batch file ("The filename, directory name, or volume label 
> syntax is incorrect"). This doesn't matter however because I also now 
> realize that .hta will use internet explorer to run the app, which means 
> unfortunately I can't use this for my wiki anyway.
>
> On Sunday, 13 June 2021 at 20:09:25 UTC+1 james.w@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Just tested and unfortunately not right now.
>>
>> I have a few places where i call 
>> WshShell.Run( "cmd /c " + path + " " + args ); From a quick google making 
>> the "cmd /c" part call "powershell -File " maybe with some other settings 
>> like -executionpolicy unrestricted.
>>
>> I know next to nothing about powershell though.
>>
>> if you take a look at 
>> http://welford.github.io/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fwelford%2Ftwexe%2Ftwexe.js
>> specifically 
>> TWExeWidget.prototype.runTiddler = function (event) {
>> TWExeWidget.prototype.openFile = function (event) {
>>
>> and can give me a working string format for  powershell scripts i can 
>> update the plugin to provide the shell in which it will run via a field. 
>> e.g. twexe_shell: powershell, so that we can support both.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, 13 June 2021 at 19:18:45 UTC+1 Si wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks James I did not know this existed! I was looking for something 
>>> similar a while ago.
>>>
>>> Can you use it to run PowerShell scripts?
>>> On Tuesday, 4 May 2021 at 13:31:27 UTC+1 james.w@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Incase any windows/hta users still use this:

 I've updated this plugin. the source is here: 
 https://github.com/welford/twexe and you can grab a copy of the 
 updated plugin from http://welford.github.io/

 The big change is that you can run the contents of a tiddler as a batch 
 file, which should help keep things portable (between machines / 
 environments, not cross platform). 

 It will create a temporary twexe.bat file in %TEMP% fill it with the 
 contents of the tiddler and then run it. You can change the default 
 temporary location via  $:/plugins/welford/twexe/tmpdir

 in the attached image i have two examples, one will run my local 
 node.js tw, the other just an example batch file that prints hello and the 
 first arg passed to it.



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Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

[Darth Mole]

Hello Springer and thank you for handling the entries. Please see below for 
my details.

First Entry-
Name: Assorted Swedish Tiddlers (like the Swedish Fish candy)
Author: IAmDarthMole

Second Entry-
Name: Assorted Swedish Tiddler Fields (original I know)
Author: IAmDarthMole

If I enter anymore I'll be sure to include the name and my name :)

Thanks again!

On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 11:21:38 AM UTC-4 springer wrote:

> Mohammad,
>
> All good suggestions! Though I usually don't embed images (and don't think 
> tiddlyhost has file directories for such), these images are small, and 
> presumably visitors would want to load them all anyway. So I've embedded 
> each entry so far, and also set up an overview of the final entries from 
> the 5.1.23 contest for inspiration and some sense of continuity:
>
> https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/
>
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 11:47:50 PM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Hi Springer!
>>
>> I love your artwork! very nice!
>>
>> Minor comments:
>> 1. Why not host the image on 
>> https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields and why use 
>> dropbox?
>> 2. I remember you have hosted artworks for 5.1.23, it is good to see them 
>> on https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields
>> 3. It is good to have 
>> https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields for past and 
>> future artworks competitions all in one place this not only archive all 
>> previous efforts but also give ideas to other contributors
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Si]

 Hi Mohammad,

Sorry I didn't see this original reply so I only responded to your second 
comment!

>>> Maybe we can have a "sweat tweak" plugin ;-) to include such things?
>>> I think these are:
>>> - two column story river
>>> - colorful tabs
>>> - colorful view toolbars and hide/show on mouse hover

Yes I personally think that this would be better. The original Shiraz for 
"Macros for creating stylish content in TiddlyWiki", and a new plugin for 
"Theme tweaks" (e.g. light/dark mode, colorful sidebar tabs etc). I think 
that narrower categorisation will make it easier for new users to grasp how 
they can apply these tools.

That's just my opinion - I will continue to use Shiraz regardless, and I 
appreciate the work you have put in to all your plugins!


On Sunday, 6 June 2021 at 15:34:43 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

> Hi Si,
>  Many thanks for your comments! 
> Ideas and opinions are always welcome !
> Sure I note this and will consider it in the next release! 
> Maybe we can have a "sweat tweak" plugin ;-) to include such things?
> I think these are:
> - two column story river
> - colorful tabs
> - colorful view toolbars and hide/show on mouse hover
>
>
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 5:06 PM si  wrote:
>
>> Hi Mohammed,
>>
>
>> I've been using Shiraz for a while now, and its super amazing and useful, 
>> however I have noticed that it has some features that feel like they should 
>> belong in a separate plugin.
>>
>> Specifically there are a few features that don't have much do do with 
>> creating stylish content, and more what I would consider "theme tweaks". 
>> For example:
>>
>>- Colorify sidebar tabs
>>- Button for light/dark mode
>>- Tiddler visibility on mouse hover
>>
>> I am referring essentially to everything under the Shiraz settings tab. 
>> These are all extremely useful tools, but I just think they diverge quite 
>> far from your description of Shiraz: 
>>
>> >>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to 
>> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki.
>>
>> Currently if a user installs Shiraz, they will also find that their wiki 
>> theming has been tweaked, and will have to go to the settings tab if they 
>> want to turn everything off. In my opinion it would make more sense to 
>> these tweaks into a separate plugin so that the user can choose whether or 
>> not to install them.
>>
>> I hope this doesn't sound critical, as Shiraz is one of my favourite TW 
>> plugins. It's just my personal opinion and I'm curious if there is a logic 
>> to including theme tweaks and styling macros as part of the same plugin 
>> that I am not seeing?
>>
> On Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 09:30:08 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>>
> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!
>>>
>>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to 
>>> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements 
>>> like alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges, 
>>> texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.
>>>
>>> Code and demo
>>>
>>>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>>>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>>
>>> *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new 
>>> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
>>> Revision 2.3.0
>>>
>>>
>>>- Date: [10th May 2021]
>>>- [NEW] Palette switch on the page controls
>>>- [NEW] Setting for default light and dark (or dim) palette (see 
>>>Sidebar More Tab, Shiraz)
>>>- [NEW] Slider macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and 
>>>extracts the text automatically
>>>- [NEW] Details macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and 
>>>extracts the text automatically
>>>- [FIXED] small type in card-image macro
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Si]

Hi Mohammed,

Sorry I didn't see this original reply so I only responded to your second 
comment!

>>> Maybe we can have a "sweat tweak" plugin ;-) to include such things?
>>> I think these are:
>>> - two column story river
>>> - colorful tabs
>>> - colorful view toolbars and hide/show on mouse hover

Yes I personally think that this would be better. The original Shiraz for 
"Macros for creating stylish content in TiddlyWiki", and a new plugin for 
"Theme tweaks" (e.g. light/dark mode, colorful sidebar tabs etc). I think 
that narrower categorisation will make it easier for new users to grasp how 
they can apply these tools.

That's just my opinion - I will continue to use Shiraz regardless, and I 
appreciate the work you have put in to all your plugins!

On Sunday, 6 June 2021 at 15:34:43 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

> Hi Si,
>  Many thanks for your comments! 
> Ideas and opinions are always welcome !
> Sure I note this and will consider it in the next release! 
> Maybe we can have a "sweat tweak" plugin ;-) to include such things?
> I think these are:
> - two column story river
> - colorful tabs
> - colorful view toolbars and hide/show on mouse hover
>
>
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 5:06 PM si  wrote:
>
>> Hi Mohammed,
>>
>
>> I've been using Shiraz for a while now, and its super amazing and useful, 
>> however I have noticed that it has some features that feel like they should 
>> belong in a separate plugin.
>>
>> Specifically there are a few features that don't have much do do with 
>> creating stylish content, and more what I would consider "theme tweaks". 
>> For example:
>>
>>- Colorify sidebar tabs
>>- Button for light/dark mode
>>- Tiddler visibility on mouse hover
>>
>> I am referring essentially to everything under the Shiraz settings tab. 
>> These are all extremely useful tools, but I just think they diverge quite 
>> far from your description of Shiraz: 
>>
>> >>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to 
>> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki.
>>
>> Currently if a user installs Shiraz, they will also find that their wiki 
>> theming has been tweaked, and will have to go to the settings tab if they 
>> want to turn everything off. In my opinion it would make more sense to 
>> these tweaks into a separate plugin so that the user can choose whether or 
>> not to install them.
>>
>> I hope this doesn't sound critical, as Shiraz is one of my favourite TW 
>> plugins. It's just my personal opinion and I'm curious if there is a logic 
>> to including theme tweaks and styling macros as part of the same plugin 
>> that I am not seeing?
>>
> On Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 09:30:08 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>>
> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!
>>>
>>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to 
>>> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements 
>>> like alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges, 
>>> texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.
>>>
>>> Code and demo
>>>
>>>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>>>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>>
>>> *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new 
>>> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
>>> Revision 2.3.0
>>>
>>>
>>>- Date: [10th May 2021]
>>>- [NEW] Palette switch on the page controls
>>>- [NEW] Setting for default light and dark (or dim) palette (see 
>>>Sidebar More Tab, Shiraz)
>>>- [NEW] Slider macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and 
>>>extracts the text automatically
>>>- [NEW] Details macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and 
>>>extracts the text automatically
>>>- [FIXED] small type in card-image macro
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

[springer]

Mohammad,

All good suggestions! Though I usually don't embed images (and don't think 
tiddlyhost has file directories for such), these images are small, and 
presumably visitors would want to load them all anyway. So I've embedded 
each entry so far, and also set up an overview of the final entries from 
the 5.1.23 contest for inspiration and some sense of continuity:

https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/

On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 11:47:50 PM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:

> Hi Springer!
>
> I love your artwork! very nice!
>
> Minor comments:
> 1. Why not host the image on 
> https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields and why use 
> dropbox?
> 2. I remember you have hosted artworks for 5.1.23, it is good to see them 
> on https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields
> 3. It is good to have 
> https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields for past and 
> future artworks competitions all in one place this not only archive all 
> previous efforts but also give ideas to other contributors
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

[springer]

iamdar..., and all,

I'm sorry I don't know how to attribute an author name to your entries. 

For anyone who posts entries here, it would be helpful to include (1) how 
you'd ilke your authorname to appear, and (2) name of entry.

I'll try to keep an eye out and update the site with entries, as they're 
shared here, at https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/

-Springer

On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 2:02:10 AM UTC-4 iamdar...@gmail.com wrote:

> Here is another attempt based on what I read regarding a focus on fields.
>
> [image: Logo2.png]
>
> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 12:43:30 AM UTC-4 Darth Mole wrote:
>
>> One of my attempts so far. Hope it isn't too off the mark!
>>
>> [image: Logo1.png]
>>
>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 11:47:50 PM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Springer!
>>>
>>> I love your artwork! very nice!
>>>
>>> Minor comments:
>>> 1. Why not host the image on 
>>> https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields and why use 
>>> dropbox?
>>> 2. I remember you have hosted artworks for 5.1.23, it is good to see 
>>> them on https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields
>>> 3. It is good to have 
>>> https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields for past 
>>> and future artworks competitions all in one place this not only archive all 
>>> previous efforts but also give ideas to other contributors
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 1:02 AM springer  wrote:
>>>
 Here's a hasty concept-logo to kick things off, also visible at site: 
 https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields

 [image: unleash_your_fields.jpg]

 On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 4:13:44 PM UTC-4 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Mat
>
> The artwork needs to show "v5.2.0" (including the "v"!), because there 
> will  be a "v5.2.1" at some point, potentially quite soon, and it's 
> important for everybody to be able to unambiguously distinguish the 
> versions. Stated another way, this is not version '5.2', this is version 
> '5.2.0'.
>
> I'd also say that perhaps designs based on the shapes of the letters 
> might be a bit generic. I think the opportunity is to try to capture what 
> is in the release, not just the string of numbers we use to refer to it.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> --
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> jer...@jermolene.com
> https://jermolene.com
>
> On 13 Jun 2021, at 20:02, Mat  wrote:
>
> Oooh I just got two cool ideas! Anyone skilled, feel free to create:
>
> First depends on if it is OK with "5.2" (see my previous 
> question). Those two digits have a very similar shape! I think it should 
> be 
> possible to make some kind of mirror reflection to have one show the 
> other. 
>
> Second idea uses that new feature with freely named fields. So the 
> design idea is to simply make the string "TiddlyWiki 5.2.0" as a field! 
> E.g 
> the "TiddlyWiki 5" as the field name and the "2.0" as the field value. 
> Should the garbage can that deletes the field be next to it?... 
>
> <:-)
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 8:08:15 PM UTC+2 Mat wrote:
>
>> Freely naming of fields will be fantastic! It will give fields a much 
>> more prominent position because they can be used directly as connections 
>> to 
>> actual tiddlers. Great progress!
>>
>> @Jeremy can the artwork treat the version number as 5.2 (i.e without 
>> .0 at end)? I don't have a particular idea but I imagine it will be 
>> easier 
>> to come up with ideas for fewer digits.
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 1:14:17 PM UTC+2 Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>>> This is to announce our regular competition for the artwork for the 
>>> next release of TiddlyWiki 5. The next release is planned to be called 
>>> v5.2.0, which requires a little explanation.
>>>
>>> We've bumped the minor version number because of a single very 
>>> important change: for the first time in a decade, we're changing the 
>>> format 
>>> used to encode tiddlers into the HTML file.
>>>
>>> The new format is based on JSON, making it much easier to develop 
>>> tools that produce or consume TW5 standalone HTML files. While there is 
>>> some limited backwards compatibility, the developers of many existing 
>>> tools 
>>> will need to make modifications to keep things working with v5.2.0.
>>>
>>> Hence the version number change: it's intended to make every 
>>> developer ask "Gosh, what could have changed to warrant such a big 
>>> jump", 
>>> and helps us to make sure that the news of the change is promulgated as 
>>> widely and prominently as possible.
>>>
>>> The change also brings one big improvement for all users: field 
>>> names now have no restrictions on which characters 

[tw5] Re: twexe (the plugin) update

[Si]

Hi James thanks for the reply. Just trying it I actually can't even get it 
to work with a batch file ("The filename, directory name, or volume label 
syntax is incorrect"). This doesn't matter however because I also now 
realize that .hta will use internet explorer to run the app, which means 
unfortunately I can't use this for my wiki anyway.

On Sunday, 13 June 2021 at 20:09:25 UTC+1 james.w@gmail.com wrote:

> Just tested and unfortunately not right now.
>
> I have a few places where i call 
> WshShell.Run( "cmd /c " + path + " " + args ); From a quick google making 
> the "cmd /c" part call "powershell -File " maybe with some other settings 
> like -executionpolicy unrestricted.
>
> I know next to nothing about powershell though.
>
> if you take a look at 
> http://welford.github.io/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fwelford%2Ftwexe%2Ftwexe.js
> specifically 
> TWExeWidget.prototype.runTiddler = function (event) {
> TWExeWidget.prototype.openFile = function (event) {
>
> and can give me a working string format for  powershell scripts i can 
> update the plugin to provide the shell in which it will run via a field. 
> e.g. twexe_shell: powershell, so that we can support both.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, 13 June 2021 at 19:18:45 UTC+1 Si wrote:
>
>> Thanks James I did not know this existed! I was looking for something 
>> similar a while ago.
>>
>> Can you use it to run PowerShell scripts?
>> On Tuesday, 4 May 2021 at 13:31:27 UTC+1 james.w@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Incase any windows/hta users still use this:
>>>
>>> I've updated this plugin. the source is here: 
>>> https://github.com/welford/twexe and you can grab a copy of the updated 
>>> plugin from http://welford.github.io/
>>>
>>> The big change is that you can run the contents of a tiddler as a batch 
>>> file, which should help keep things portable (between machines / 
>>> environments, not cross platform). 
>>>
>>> It will create a temporary twexe.bat file in %TEMP% fill it with the 
>>> contents of the tiddler and then run it. You can change the default 
>>> temporary location via  $:/plugins/welford/twexe/tmpdir
>>>
>>> in the attached image i have two examples, one will run my local node.js 
>>> tw, the other just an example batch file that prints hello and the first 
>>> arg passed to it.
>>>
>>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Unable to run TiddlyDesktop on Linux

[Em Heppler]

I have found Beaker Browser works really well on Linux/Ubuntu for 
tiddlywiki.

https://tiddlywiki.com/static/Saving%2520on%2520Beaker%2520Browser.html

On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 2:57:32 PM UTC-4 LinuxNoob wrote:

> Birthe, I'll be looking at this solution as it may be exactly what I need 
> in place of TiddlyDesktop. Thanks!
>
> On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 4:33 AM strikke...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
>> Maybe it is time to stop using TiddlyDesktop for now. It seems there are 
>> some problems with this version of it. Wait for a new version if you still 
>> want Tiddlydesktop.
>>
>> Download empty tiddlywiki from Tiddlywiki.com and use a saver. I love 
>> Timimi by Riz. It is kind of a fairy godmother - save and creates backups.
>> It is all about setting it up right. Luckily Riz explains everything 
>> here: https://ibnishak.github.io/Timimi/
>> I love using Tiddlywiki in the browser. Easy to make notes from stuff I 
>> read, saving linksand best - to drag and drop plugins and other things 
>> from the Tiddlywikis other people show us.
>>
>> I have one of my tiddlywikies pinned in the browser - and thus always 
>> ready. This one is used for tips and tricks tested and written in my own 
>> language Danish. (After many years this is really the one TW5 I am using 
>> all the time). That is due to the fact, that to create it I must have 
>> understood something at the time of creating.
>>
>> Also by now I have far more tiddlywikis than I would want to have listed 
>> in Tiddlydesktop. 
>>
>>
>> I really hope you get to enjoy the tiddlywiki experience soon,
>>
>> Birthe
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 10:45:11 PM UTC+2 LinuxNoob wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah I'm still getting the same error message: 
>>>
>>> [9629:9629:0603/160810.303573:ERROR:sandbox.cc(376)] InitializeSandbox() 
>>> called with multiple threads in process gpu-process. 
>>>
>>> I figured that I can still edit the html files after creating them by 
>>> opening the file manually (not using TiddlyDesktop)
>>>
>>> I can use TiddlyDesktop to create the new HTML files, then shut down TD 
>>> by exiting the terminal, and then editing teh html file by clicking on the 
>>> file where it's stored.
>>>
>>> I'm wondering, besides making saving files a breeze and managing 
>>> backups, are there any other benefits to TiddlyDesktop? The error I'm 
>>> having just stops me
>>> from using TD to open/manage the files. I think can deal with having to 
>>> manually back up the files.
>>>
>>> If anyone has any questions regarding this problem I'd be happy to 
>>> answer. Or any possible solutions. 
>>>
>>> Thanks for continuing to look into this, I appreciate any help I can get 
>>> because I'd like to use TiddlyWiki for work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 11:30:25 PM UTC-4 iamdar...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Is still giving the same exact error as before?

 On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 2:08:32 AM UTC-4 LinuxNoob wrote:

> Ok I followed the instructions and I've successfully installed 
> libgconf2-4 but unfortunately the problem persists.
>
> Frustrating!
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 12:37 AM Darth Mole  
> wrote:
>
>> The instructions seem legit.
>>
>> Try checking out the instructions on this site as well: 
>> https://itsfoss.com/unable-to-locate-package-error-ubuntu/
>>
>> itsfoss.com, imo, is a great website and I've found many of 
>> solutions on there.
>>
>> On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 12:19:42 AM UTC-4 LinuxNoob wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the advice, but it didn't work. I got this message:
>>>
>>> ~& sudo apt install libconf2-4
>>> [sudo] password for user:
>>> Reading package lists... Done
>>> Building dependency tree
>>> Reading state information... Done
>>> E: Unable to locate package libconf2-4
>>>
>>> This website doesn't look reputable, which is why I'm not just 
>>> trying out what it recommends.
>>> https://zoomadmin.com/HowToInstall/UbuntuPackage/libgconf-2-4
>>>
>>> But the website suggests that to install libconf2-4 I have to write:
>>>
>>> sudo apt-get update -y
>>> sudo apt-get install -y libgconf-2-4 
>>>
>>> Can anyone confirm that this would be the way to go?
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 8:36:26 PM UTC-4 iamdar...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I preface what I'm about to write with: 

 I'm very new to linux as well and probably just know enough to be 
 dangerous. However, given the wording of the error, and that you still 
 get 
 it after following the linked steps, I would personally try the 
 following 
 if I was experiencing the issue.

 With everything closed I would run the following command in your 
 terminal:

 $sudo apt install libgconf2-4

 If it asks to install listed package with a y/n type Y and then 
 

[tw5] Filter question: get caption else use title

[Saq Imtiaz]

I feel like there must be a very simple way to do this that I am missing.

Given an ordered list of tiddler titles, in a *single filter expression*, 
replace the title with the caption if there is one, else keep the title - 
without changing the order.

The only solution I came up with is convoluted (on pre-release):

[tag[Widgets]] 
:reduce[get[caption]else{!!title}format:titlelist[]addprefix[ 
]addprefix] +[enlist-input[]]

where tag[Widgets] is a good stand-in for testing purposes for the ordered 
list, as not all of these tiddler on https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/ 
have captions but most do.
Is there a simpler alternative?

Cheers,
Saq

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[tw5] Re: Draggable list of links that comes from a filter

[Mat]

...Otherwise, check out 

https://list-table-draggable.tiddlyhost.com/

<:-)

On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 3:30:53 PM UTC+2 Mat wrote:

> For the list field in list-links-draggable I think you can use a filter 
> instead of titles.
>
> <:-)
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 10:24:27 PM UTC+2 mehequeda...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I know how to get list of links that you can reorder with drag and drop 
>> for these cases:
>>
>>- Using list-links-draggable for tiddlers stored in a list field
>>- Using list-tagged-draggable for tiddlers tagged and maybe 
>>restricted with a filter
>>
>> But how to get such draggable list of links for an arbitrary filter when 
>> tiddlers doesn't share a tag? Did you ever need something like that?
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Draggable list of links that comes from a filter

[Mat]

For the list field in list-links-draggable I think you can use a filter 
instead of titles.

<:-)
On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 10:24:27 PM UTC+2 mehequeda...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello,
> I know how to get list of links that you can reorder with drag and drop 
> for these cases:
>
>- Using list-links-draggable for tiddlers stored in a list field
>- Using list-tagged-draggable for tiddlers tagged and maybe restricted 
>with a filter
>
> But how to get such draggable list of links for an arbitrary filter when 
> tiddlers doesn't share a tag? Did you ever need something like that?
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

[Mat]

>
> Or perhaps a water drop and a fire-breathing giant reptile ("Dragon Drop")
>

Yeah! Or a dragon 
spouting
 
water/drops! Just above the TiddlyWiki: 5.2.0 field thingy. That would make 
for a really cool and odd art work.
*And it is even a super cool version name: "Dragon Drop"! *(even if, 
admittedly, the drag'n drop we are discussing here is limited. It would be 
an even more suitable name for if tiddlers were freely movable)

<:-)

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Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

[Eric Shulman]

On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 12:37:25 AM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote:

> Folks if Drag and Drop ia a key feature then what about a water drop and 
> someone in drag?


Or perhaps a water drop and a fire-breathing giant reptile ("Dragon Drop")

-e

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Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

[TW Tones]

Folks if Drag and Drop ia a key feature then what about a water drop and 
someone in drag?

:)

Tones

On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 16:02:10 UTC+10 iamdar...@gmail.com wrote:

> Here is another attempt based on what I read regarding a focus on fields.
>
> [image: Logo2.png]
>
> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 12:43:30 AM UTC-4 Darth Mole wrote:
>
>> One of my attempts so far. Hope it isn't too off the mark!
>>
>> [image: Logo1.png]
>>
>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 11:47:50 PM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Springer!
>>>
>>> I love your artwork! very nice!
>>>
>>> Minor comments:
>>> 1. Why not host the image on 
>>> https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields and why use 
>>> dropbox?
>>> 2. I remember you have hosted artworks for 5.1.23, it is good to see 
>>> them on https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields
>>> 3. It is good to have 
>>> https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields for past 
>>> and future artworks competitions all in one place this not only archive all 
>>> previous efforts but also give ideas to other contributors
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 1:02 AM springer  wrote:
>>>
 Here's a hasty concept-logo to kick things off, also visible at site: 
 https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields

 [image: unleash_your_fields.jpg]

 On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 4:13:44 PM UTC-4 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Mat
>
> The artwork needs to show "v5.2.0" (including the "v"!), because there 
> will  be a "v5.2.1" at some point, potentially quite soon, and it's 
> important for everybody to be able to unambiguously distinguish the 
> versions. Stated another way, this is not version '5.2', this is version 
> '5.2.0'.
>
> I'd also say that perhaps designs based on the shapes of the letters 
> might be a bit generic. I think the opportunity is to try to capture what 
> is in the release, not just the string of numbers we use to refer to it.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> --
> Jeremy Ruston
> jer...@jermolene.com
> https://jermolene.com
>
> On 13 Jun 2021, at 20:02, Mat  wrote:
>
> Oooh I just got two cool ideas! Anyone skilled, feel free to create:
>
> First depends on if it is OK with "5.2" (see my previous 
> question). Those two digits have a very similar shape! I think it should 
> be 
> possible to make some kind of mirror reflection to have one show the 
> other. 
>
> Second idea uses that new feature with freely named fields. So the 
> design idea is to simply make the string "TiddlyWiki 5.2.0" as a field! 
> E.g 
> the "TiddlyWiki 5" as the field name and the "2.0" as the field value. 
> Should the garbage can that deletes the field be next to it?... 
>
> <:-)
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 8:08:15 PM UTC+2 Mat wrote:
>
>> Freely naming of fields will be fantastic! It will give fields a much 
>> more prominent position because they can be used directly as connections 
>> to 
>> actual tiddlers. Great progress!
>>
>> @Jeremy can the artwork treat the version number as 5.2 (i.e without 
>> .0 at end)? I don't have a particular idea but I imagine it will be 
>> easier 
>> to come up with ideas for fewer digits.
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 1:14:17 PM UTC+2 Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>>> This is to announce our regular competition for the artwork for the 
>>> next release of TiddlyWiki 5. The next release is planned to be called 
>>> v5.2.0, which requires a little explanation.
>>>
>>> We've bumped the minor version number because of a single very 
>>> important change: for the first time in a decade, we're changing the 
>>> format 
>>> used to encode tiddlers into the HTML file.
>>>
>>> The new format is based on JSON, making it much easier to develop 
>>> tools that produce or consume TW5 standalone HTML files. While there is 
>>> some limited backwards compatibility, the developers of many existing 
>>> tools 
>>> will need to make modifications to keep things working with v5.2.0.
>>>
>>> Hence the version number change: it's intended to make every 
>>> developer ask "Gosh, what could have changed to warrant such a big 
>>> jump", 
>>> and helps us to make sure that the news of the change is promulgated as 
>>> widely and prominently as possible.
>>>
>>> The change also brings one big improvement for all users: field 
>>> names now have no restrictions on which characters can be used, and are 
>>> case-sensitive so that "MyField" is a valid fieldname, and refers to a 
>>> different field than "myfield" (just like tiddler titles). Finally, we 
>>> can 
>>> have fields called "⛄️".
>>>
>>> These changes will be merged 

Re: [tw5] HttpPlatformHandler 404

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Nathan

According to the same Twitter source, the link is fixed again now:

https://twitter.com/mcartoixa/status/1404306565096685568

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> On 4 Jun 2021, at 10:53, Nathan Hindle  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jeremy,
> 
> Thank you again for the swift response!
> 
> ooo, I didn't notice that Twitter article when I was doing some digging. 
> Thank you for providing it
> 
> Ill keep an eye out on that thread 
> 
> Many thanks again for your assistance, 
> 
> Nathan
> 
>> On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 at 10:17, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
>> Hi Nathan,
>> 
>> I can confirm that I am no longer able to access 
>> https://www.iis.net/downloads/microsoft/httpplatformhandler (For me, it’s 
>> timing out rather than a 404)
>> 
>>> It looks like this is happening for everyone now:
>>> Cannot download HttpPlatformHandler anymore - Microsoft Q
>> 
>> It’s encouraging that people still care about it, hopefully it will be fixed.
>> 
>> On Twitter, Scott Hanselman has said “That’s my team, I’ll take a look”:
>> 
>> https://twitter.com/shanselman/status/1399975956689784835
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Jeremy
>> 
>>> 
>>> If you click on any of the download links further down the page they will 
>>> come back with 404 links. Does this not happen for you?
>>> 
>>> For example:
>>> 404 - File or directory not found. (microsoft.com)
>>> 
>>> The install link at the top redirects to:
>>> Windows Web App Gallery FAQ | Microsoft Docs
>>> 
>>> and this advises:
>>> The Windows Web Application Gallery (WWAG) is being retired on July 1, 2021
>>> 
>>> Many Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Nathan
>>> 
>>> 
 On Thursday, 3 June 2021 at 22:26:21 UTC+1 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Nathan
 
 The listed URL is working for me; it may have been a temporary failure:
 
 https://www.iis.net/downloads/microsoft/httpplatformhandler
 
 Best wishes
 
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>> On 3 Jun 2021, at 20:57, Nathan Hindle  wrote:
>> 
> 
 
> Hi All, 
> 
> Now you can no longer install HttpPlatformHandler as it gives a 404. Is 
> there an altrernative guide to follow to setup tidlywiki in IIS ?
> 
> Many Thanks,
> 
> Nathan 
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Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

[Darth Mole]

Here is another attempt based on what I read regarding a focus on fields.

[image: Logo2.png]

On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 12:43:30 AM UTC-4 Darth Mole wrote:

> One of my attempts so far. Hope it isn't too off the mark!
>
> [image: Logo1.png]
>
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 11:47:50 PM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Hi Springer!
>>
>> I love your artwork! very nice!
>>
>> Minor comments:
>> 1. Why not host the image on 
>> https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields and why use 
>> dropbox?
>> 2. I remember you have hosted artworks for 5.1.23, it is good to see them 
>> on https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields
>> 3. It is good to have 
>> https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields for past and 
>> future artworks competitions all in one place this not only archive all 
>> previous efforts but also give ideas to other contributors
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 1:02 AM springer  wrote:
>>
>>> Here's a hasty concept-logo to kick things off, also visible at site: 
>>> https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields
>>>
>>> [image: unleash_your_fields.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 4:13:44 PM UTC-4 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hi Mat

 The artwork needs to show "v5.2.0" (including the "v"!), because there 
 will  be a "v5.2.1" at some point, potentially quite soon, and it's 
 important for everybody to be able to unambiguously distinguish the 
 versions. Stated another way, this is not version '5.2', this is version 
 '5.2.0'.

 I'd also say that perhaps designs based on the shapes of the letters 
 might be a bit generic. I think the opportunity is to try to capture what 
 is in the release, not just the string of numbers we use to refer to it.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.


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 Jeremy Ruston
 jer...@jermolene.com
 https://jermolene.com

 On 13 Jun 2021, at 20:02, Mat  wrote:

 Oooh I just got two cool ideas! Anyone skilled, feel free to create:

 First depends on if it is OK with "5.2" (see my previous 
 question). Those two digits have a very similar shape! I think it should 
 be 
 possible to make some kind of mirror reflection to have one show the 
 other. 

 Second idea uses that new feature with freely named fields. So the 
 design idea is to simply make the string "TiddlyWiki 5.2.0" as a field! 
 E.g 
 the "TiddlyWiki 5" as the field name and the "2.0" as the field value. 
 Should the garbage can that deletes the field be next to it?... 

 <:-)
 On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 8:08:15 PM UTC+2 Mat wrote:

> Freely naming of fields will be fantastic! It will give fields a much 
> more prominent position because they can be used directly as connections 
> to 
> actual tiddlers. Great progress!
>
> @Jeremy can the artwork treat the version number as 5.2 (i.e without 
> .0 at end)? I don't have a particular idea but I imagine it will be 
> easier 
> to come up with ideas for fewer digits.
>
> <:-)
>
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 1:14:17 PM UTC+2 Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
>> This is to announce our regular competition for the artwork for the 
>> next release of TiddlyWiki 5. The next release is planned to be called 
>> v5.2.0, which requires a little explanation.
>>
>> We've bumped the minor version number because of a single very 
>> important change: for the first time in a decade, we're changing the 
>> format 
>> used to encode tiddlers into the HTML file.
>>
>> The new format is based on JSON, making it much easier to develop 
>> tools that produce or consume TW5 standalone HTML files. While there is 
>> some limited backwards compatibility, the developers of many existing 
>> tools 
>> will need to make modifications to keep things working with v5.2.0.
>>
>> Hence the version number change: it's intended to make every 
>> developer ask "Gosh, what could have changed to warrant such a big 
>> jump", 
>> and helps us to make sure that the news of the change is promulgated as 
>> widely and prominently as possible.
>>
>> The change also brings one big improvement for all users: field names 
>> now have no restrictions on which characters can be used, and are 
>> case-sensitive so that "MyField" is a valid fieldname, and refers to a 
>> different field than "myfield" (just like tiddler titles). Finally, we 
>> can 
>> have fields called "⛄️".
>>
>> These changes will be merged shortly, but in the meantime can be 
>> inspected here:
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5708
>>
>> So, with that, back to the artwork competition. The task is to design 
>> the banner image that is shown on the splash screen and within the 
>> opening