[tw5] codemirror and comptext plugins

[Adam Shepherd]

Hello everyone!

Is it possible to make the Codemirror plugin 
 *and* the 
Edit-CompText 
plugin  work at the *same time*? 
(By "default" it is one or the other.)

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[tw5] Re: Missing close button in pop-ups

[Adam Shepherd]

The Tekan plugin might give some insight into what could cause it.

On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 1:05:08 PM UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> I have seen this issue too on both Android and desktop pc.
>
> But mine wasn't caused by Tekan since I don't use it.
>
> I have not been able to pin down when it happens or why.
>
> Josiah
>
> On Saturday, 2 February 2019 11:44:13 UTC+1, Adam Shepherd wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Rony. Since then, I figured out what causes the problem in 
>> broad terms. I don't know what's going on exactly though.
>> After painstakingly deleting all tiddlers (I was using the advanced 
>> search / filter tab but it left a lot of manual work) to provide you with 
>> an example wiki where the problem is already there, I went back to 
>> double-check that I tried the wiki with all plugins turned off. It turns 
>> out I didn't. The issue was caused by the Tekan plugin. It even shows up on 
>> the official demo site as well, here: 
>> https://ibnishak.github.io/Tesseract/projects/tekan/Tekan.html
>> My solution for now is that I disabled the plugin.
>>
>> On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 12:26:08 AM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Saw this somewhere as well, for the first time recently. I thought the 
>>> wiki had failed.
>>>
>>> I will try and reproduce it as well.
>>>
>>> Rony
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Missing close button in pop-ups

[Adam Shepherd]

Thank you Rony, After painstakingly deleting all tiddlers (I was using the 
advanced search / filter tab but it left a lot of manual work) to provide 
you with an example  where it doesn't show up, I went back to double-check 
that I tried the wiki with all plugins turned off. It turns out I didn't. 
The issue was caused by the Tekan plugin. It even shows up on the official 
demo site as well, 
here: https://ibnishak.github.io/Tesseract/projects/tekan/Tekan.html

On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 12:26:08 AM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> Saw this somewhere as well, for the first time recently. I thought the 
> wiki had failed.
>
> I will try and reproduce it as well.
>
> Rony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Listing tiddlers by length of text field

[Adam Shepherd]

Its okay. I make similar mistakes all the time. :) 
I'm glad I could be of assistance!

On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 3:35:52 AM UTC+1, Joe Bush wrote:
>
> Wow, I take it back. I never actually refreshed the page, because I failed 
> to realize that the filter needed to be loaded on startup. It works now and 
> I feel like an idiot.
>
> On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 8:33:54 PM UTC-6, Joe Bush wrote:
>>
>> Really? Huh. Yes, I dragged both the macro and the filter into a blank 
>> wiki freshly downloaded from tiddlywiki.com. I tried that one in chrome, 
>> and tried the other in nwjs. I wonder what factors exist outside that 
>> setup. Could there be interference from outside the file? None of my chrome 
>> plugins are active in the webkit view of nwjs, so I would doubt that... If 
>> try this again fresh and upload it to dropbox, would you be willing to open 
>> the file to see if it works?
>>
>> On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 3:06:59 PM UTC-6, Adam Shepherd wrote:
>>>
>>> It does work for me.
>>> Did you drag the necessary macro and filter to your wiki?
>>> I followed the instructions here 
>>> <http://tobibeer.github.io/tw/demo/#length%20macro%20and%20lsort%20filter>, 
>>> saved and refreshed my wiki and it worked wonderfully.
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 7:16:38 PM UTC+1, Joe Bush wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to list "stub" tiddlers for me to work on, which I want to 
>>>> find by sorting/filtering them by text length.
>>>>
>>>> I found this tactic from a while back, but it doesn't work anymore.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#How%20Big%20Are%20Tiddlers%20In%20Size%3F
>>>>
>>>> I've tried downloading a blank TW5 and starting from scratch with these 
>>>> two parts, but that didn't work either.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know how to list tiddlers by length of the text field?
>>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Missing close button in pop-ups

[Adam Shepherd]

For some reason the close button doesn't show up for me anymore on "pop-up" 
alerts and menus and I couldn't find any other way to close them. I've 
attached an example of where it is missing (and the same menu in an empty 
TW).
Can someone help me find where I can reverse what I did (I've made so many 
modifications I have no clue what could've caused this) so as to make it 
appear again?
(Changing themes doesn't bring it back.)

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[tw5] Re: Listing tiddlers by length of text field

[Adam Shepherd]

It does work for me.
Did you drag the necessary macro and filter to your wiki?
I followed the instructions here 
, 
saved and refreshed my wiki and it worked wonderfully.

On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 7:16:38 PM UTC+1, Joe Bush wrote:
>
> I'm trying to list "stub" tiddlers for me to work on, which I want to find 
> by sorting/filtering them by text length.
>
> I found this tactic from a while back, but it doesn't work anymore.
>
> https://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#How%20Big%20Are%20Tiddlers%20In%20Size%3F
>
> I've tried downloading a blank TW5 and starting from scratch with these 
> two parts, but that didn't work either.
>
> Does anyone know how to list tiddlers by length of the text field?
>

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[tw5] Re: need help

[Adam Shepherd]

I am unsure what the current solution for firefox is, my advice for you is 
to use tiddlydesktop. https://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyDesktop
When I use firefox, the saving function (without any firefox plugin) works 
by saving a new html file every time.

On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 2:40:40 PM UTC+1, Lilian Cipciriuc wrote:
>
> Sorry if offtopic
>
> Haven't been using tiddlywiki for long and have restarted several days 
> ago. Unfortunately i am having troubles saving the embpy.html file The save 
> function is not saving the file... every time when opening the closed file 
> it is empty again and has nothing inside from the work previously done. I 
> am using latest Firefox 65 and tdwiki 5.1.19
>

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[tw5] Re: How does cardo override theme settings?

[Adam Shepherd]

Thank you! I looked at the stylesheets before asking the question but I 
couldn't figure out why this happened. I didn't know I can rearrange 
stylesheets as you instructed, that is great. Sadly it didn't solve my 
problem - but I've found the problematic css areas in 
cardo's $:/plugins/Cardo/controls.css. For now I replaced "black" with 
<> and everything seems to be working. Knowing 
that all currently active stylesheets are shown in the settings is great!

On Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 8:33:31 AM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> See Control Panel > Info > Advanced > StyleSheets
>
> Notice how $:/themes/Cardo/base 
> <https://cardo.wiki/#%24%3A%2Fthemes%2FCardo%2Fbase> is the last (and has 
> ones that are first) ?
> Perhaps make your own stylesheet that provides the CSS to override what 
> ever cardio is making black, or edit cardios CSS
> You can move the order of stylesheets using the $:/tags/Stylesheet 
> <https://cardo.wiki/#%24%3A%2Ftags%2FStylesheet> tagpill (drag and Drop)
>
> To find the correct CCS name you can use the browsers developer tool > 
> inspect to find them.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 4:58:27 PM UTC+11, Adam Shepherd wrote:
>>
>> Hello Everyone!
>> I'm experimenting with cardo (https://cardo.wiki/) and it somehow 
>> overrides how the tiddler edit buttons and related buttons look. (
>> tiddler-controls-foreground, sidebar-controls-foreground) No matter what 
>> color I set in the theme, it turns them black, or to the general primary 
>> color if cardo's theme is selected.  If I disable the plugin the buttons go 
>> back to normal on all themes except when using cardo theme.
>> Can anyone help me out iwith this? (I would like to use the spartan or 
>> vanilla theme with cardo, but without the weird blackening of the buttons.)
>>
>> Otherwise cardo seems to be working fine and its awesome. :)
>>
>

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[tw5] How does cardo override theme settings?

[Adam Shepherd]

Hello Everyone!
I'm experimenting with cardo (https://cardo.wiki/) and it somehow overrides 
how the tiddler edit buttons and related buttons look. (
tiddler-controls-foreground, sidebar-controls-foreground) No matter what 
color I set in the theme, it turns them black, or to the general primary 
color if cardo's theme is selected.  If I disable the plugin the buttons go 
back to normal on all themes except when using cardo theme.
Can anyone help me out iwith this?

Otherwise cardo seems to be working fine and its awesome. :)

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[tw5] How does cardo overrides the theme settings?

[Adam Shepherd]

Hello Everyone!
I'm experimenting with cardo (https://cardo.wiki/) and it somehow overrides 
how the tiddler edit buttons and related buttons look. (
tiddler-controls-foreground, sidebar-controls-foreground) No matter what 
color I set in the theme, it turns them black, or to the general primary 
color if cardo's theme is selected.  If I disable the plugin the buttons go 
back to normal on all themes except when using cardo theme.
Can anyone help me out iwith this?

Otherwise cardo seems to be working fine and its awesome. :)

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[tw5] Re: Where is the KeeBoord plugin?

[Adam Shepherd]

Hello Diego!

I'd like to see that in any way that it could exsist, even it it wasn't a 
core element. But if it could be a core part, that'd be great! 
But with this shortcut to focus on the search box (that is currently 
working) it would mostly be an aesthetic improvement. If it could be used 
to do othe things, than it'd be nice. I'm not sure what other things those 
would be, inserting macros maybe or certain elements perhaps to reach tools 
w/o mouse use. 
I make music with ableton live and one of my favorite feature is to hit 
ctrl+f and type in the first letters of ceratin tools (they're called 
devices in the program)  and then hit enter to insert them at the end of 
the chain. (I often forget where certain things are in photoshop as well, 
ctrl+f brings up a dialog box there too, and works pretty much the same way 
but way slower.) I love to be able to get to things like this.

On Thursday, December 13, 2018 at 4:57:28 PM UTC+1, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Adam,
>
> I also want to make JD's popup search box a core part of TW. I've used 
> spotlight for mac (also previously quicksilver and now alfred) and many 
> other application/file launchers for windows and linux. I think they are 
> essential. 
>
> With BurningTreeC's keeboord plugin (parts of which are now in the core), 
> and that specific part of JD's theme, we now, in theory, have the tools! We 
> just need to figure out how to get them into the core!
>
> On Thursday, December 13, 2018 at 6:15:12 AM UTC-6, Adam Shepherd wrote:
>>
>> Oh, that is a relief. (That they' are not gone and being worked on.)
>> Thank you very much for this plugin, it is truly great. I tried it out in 
>> an empty tw and seems to work flawlessly. I'll update my tw and see what'll 
>> go wrong. :) (hopefully nothing.) 
>>
>> If I may, now that I calmed down (this plugin isn't just good, it is 
>> essential for me so I was genuenly upset), I'd like to make a suggestion, 
>> an addition I'd love to see: something along the lines of what JD did with 
>> his spartan theme - to have a shortcut to focus on the search box. (What JD 
>> did with the popup searchbox is actually fenomenal and beautifully 
>> implemented (in usability and looks - I can't comment on the way it was 
>> coded), too bad spartan theme's ctrl+space search doesn't work with the new 
>> tw release and this plugin. I didn't use that though - I didn't have the 
>> time to figure out how to add back in the tags section in tiddler edit 
>> mode).
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, December 13, 2018 at 12:09:18 PM UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Adam,
>>>
>>> I've put KeeBoord offline temporarily because the new TiddlyWiki version 
>>> 5.1.18 now includes some features of it and KeeBoord has to be changed
>>>
>>> You can see the current state at 
>>> https://burningtreec.github.io/TW5-navigator 
>>>
>>> Beware before trying it, this is work in progress!
>>>
>>> The MuuriTouch plugin is also about to change, I'll leave a note here in 
>>> the group when it's done
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Where is the KeeBoord plugin?

[Adam Shepherd]

> at the tiddlywiki github repo we're discussing about making some of these 
> features core-ready, so I'm looking forward to bringing as many useful 
> things to tiddlywiki
>
 
I'm happy to read this.

Thank you for answering. 

What I find extremely useful is reducing older wikies into new ones, taking 
> over only the relevant pieces and connecting them with pieces from other 
> wikies. Sort of a brainstorming workflow
>
 
This I have never thought of. Very interesting!
Do you have separate wikis for different things, or you have different ones 
but not "content-specififc"?

A related question I have here is whether you have a system like h0p3 does? 
Like what he calls "folders" (if I recall correctly) and structures for 
those folders that repeat for each one, and then the structure is repeated 
within the smaller components. (I've found that to be a very good idea, I'm 
currently trying to figure out how I might use tw - I've been pouring 
things (ideas, notes, placeholders) into it without much thought about the 
structure of the wiki and it kind of lost its non-linear nature, I use a 
toc like in a book and the connection between things is pretty 
straight-forward. I'm missing out on possible explorations this way. I 
think this is not what you meant when you mentioned lego but I think that 
if I could reduce the size of tiddlers and have larger ones as just put 
together from the small ones I could stitch my notes together in new ways 
like lego pieces. Not sure if the result would warrant the time I'd spend 
on reducing my notes/ideas to their essential elements) 

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[tw5] Re: Where is the KeeBoord plugin?

[Adam Shepherd]

I always make backups, that is rule #1. It is at this point an automatic 
habit. But thank you for reminding me.

I can't believe I haven't seen that, I can't read today. I apologize for 
that. This is perfect. I did see the inpututils plugin though and installed 
it and its ability to select within the dropdown of the search field was 
the trigger that made me write what I did.

Brilliant work, absolutely terrific.

This behavior should be part of tiddlywiki by default. I know, it probably 
complicates things a bit more, but mouse-free control can be the difference 
between insanely good and perfect.

Can I ask you what you personally use tiddlywiki for?

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[tw5] Re: Where is the KeeBoord plugin?

[Adam Shepherd]

Oh, that is a relief.
Thank you very much for this plugin, it is truly great. I tried it out in 
an empty tw and seems to work flawlessly. I'll update my tw and see what'll 
go wrong. :) (hopefully nothing.) 

If I may, now that I calmed down (this plugin isn't just good, it is 
essential for me so I was genuenly upset), I'd like to make a suggestion, 
an addition I'd love to see: something along the lines of what JD did with 
his spartan theme - to have a shortcut to focus on the search box. (What JD 
did with the popup searchbox is actually fenomenal and beautifully 
implemented (in usability and looks - I can't comment on the way it was 
coded), too bad spartan theme's ctrl+space search doesn't work with the new 
tw release and this plugin. I didn't use that though - I didn't have the 
time to figure out how to add back in the tags section in tiddler edit 
mode).


On Thursday, December 13, 2018 at 12:09:18 PM UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hi Adam,
>
> I've put KeeBoord offline temporarily because the new TiddlyWiki version 
> 5.1.18 now includes some features of it and KeeBoord has to be changed
>
> You can see the current state at 
> https://burningtreec.github.io/TW5-navigator 
>
> Beware before trying it, this is work in progress!
>
> The MuuriTouch plugin is also about to change, I'll leave a note here in 
> the group when it's done
>
>
>

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[tw5] Where is the KeeBoord plugin?

[Adam Shepherd]

Hello everyone!
I can't seem to locate BTC's amazing keeboord plugin anywhere. Muuritouch 
is gone too. (But that is a smaller issue for me.)

What happened? Where is it? Keyboard navigation is what makes tiddlywiki 
(and most software for that matter) a real tool. Without full control with 
a keyboard it's too slow.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Twitter News -- Short Discussion of Logo

[Adam Shepherd]

Thank you! No need to apologize.

I agree with your points and no worries for pointing out its weaknesses - 
It was just a "napkin-sketch" response to "Not least that a cat can occupy 
a square or a circle. [as opposed to a cat]" and that "But a Fish would 
have had a hard time and require a very good re-designer. In any case, fish 
are too long." Neither of these are correct, and I only pointed out that it 
only took a few minutes to come up with an ad-hoc solution to shed light on 
this fact. 

I don't intend to work on it unless there is some confirmation that a 
change is indeed a possibility. Or that if the result is convincing it will 
be considered for a future release.
In that event, it'll take weeks to explore the possibilities, not minutes.

On the second point, though - It was intended to be seen as excretion. I 
always interpreted the poster this way. As a joke. When I posted my 
response I re-examined the poster and realized that it might not mean what 
I thought. :D I still think that its a funny idea with the slogan "Your 
messy thoughts, Organized" ... But it is probably not fitting to the 
tiddlywiki branding so I agree.

On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 11:04:28 PM UTC+2, Enneco Gotzon wrote:
>
> Hi Adam.
>
> I also believe that as TW logo your proposal is much more suitable than 
> the current cat; thank you.
>
> I think you have designed a good logo, but with all humility and due 
> respect regarding your work, I would like to make a few aesthetic 
> suggestions:
>
>1. To better represent a graceful little fish I would stylize the 
>stroke, avoiding thickening—I think that the thickened outline, specially 
>in the head area, adds too much consistency.
>2. I would avoid prolonging the upper right arm of the Y up to what 
>can be interpreted as the anal-urinary area of the fish because it could 
> be 
>interpreted as an excretion.
>3. I believe that a logo should only convey the essence of the 
>message. In addition, most of the time our TW logo will be a little image. 
>Consequently, I would simplify its design as much as possible, showing 
> only 
>the essentials.
>
> I hope to be relevant.
>
> I apologize for my audacity.
>
> Take care.
>
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 3:19 PM, Adam Shepherd  > wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> New forum member here.
>> I discovered TW about a year ago and I'm completely in love with it 
>> since. I never understood the cat.
>> I'm a designer and it took me precisely 7 minutes to cook up a square-ish 
>> (in its aspect-ratio, but the actual fish is intended to be friendly hence 
>> the curved lines) fish logo for TW that I think is better than the cat. It 
>> is more thematically linked. I also incorporated the brilliant idea of the 
>> poster. 
>> Keep in mind that this is a *VERY ROUGH, FAST SKETCH* but I imagine it 
>> could work. Think of it as a proof of concept.
>>
>>
>> Let me know if there is an official interest for a logo design for TW. 
>> I'd be very, *very* happy to do it. (I'd love to give something back for 
>> this amazing tool and I'm not good at coding, but logo design...half my 
>> life was spent doing that.)
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 11:08:25 AM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> Mark S. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> While a fish makes more sense, the cat is a better basis for a logo.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I agree. Not least that a cat can occupy a square or a circle. Last year 
>>> Twitter forced AVIs into circles. The several TW cats on there (
>>> https://twitter.com/TiddlyTweeter/lists/tiddlywiki-international/members) 
>>> all needed to tweak a bit. But a Fish would have had a hard time and 
>>> require a very good re-designer. In any case, fish are too long.
>>>
>>> J. 
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Twitter News -- Short Discussion of Logo

[Adam Shepherd]

Hello!

New forum member here.
I discovered TW about a year ago and I'm completely in love with it since. 
I never understood the cat.
I'm a designer and it took me precisely 7 minutes to cook up a square-ish 
(in its aspect-ratio, but the actual fish is intended to be friendly hence 
the curved lines) fish logo for TW that I think is better than the cat. It 
is more thematically linked. I also incorporated the brilliant idea of the 
poster. 
Keep in mind that this is a *VERY ROUGH, FAST SKETCH* but I imagine it 
could work. Think of it as a proof of concept.


Let me know if there is an official interest for a logo design for TW. I'd 
be very, *very* happy to do it. (I'd love to give something back for this 
amazing tool and I'm not good at coding, but logo design...half my life was 
spent doing that.)

On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 11:08:25 AM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> While a fish makes more sense, the cat is a better basis for a logo.
>>
>
> I agree. Not least that a cat can occupy a square or a circle. Last year 
> Twitter forced AVIs into circles. The several TW cats on there (
> https://twitter.com/TiddlyTweeter/lists/tiddlywiki-international/members) 
> all needed to tweak a bit. But a Fish would have had a hard time and 
> require a very good re-designer. In any case, fish are too long.
>
> J. 
>

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