Re: [tw5] Java in TiddliWiki

[jwd]

Actually, I'd forgotten - applets were removed entirely in the latest LTS 
version of Java, 11, released in September 2021. So that's a path with 
little future.

You might be able to create some Tiddlywiki JavaScript code that makes REST 
API calls to some Tomcat/Java app server instance running whatever kinds of 
backend code you would like. 

On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 9:08:21 PM UTC-4 jwd wrote:

> I think you will find that Java applets are no longer supported in any 
> modern browser. They've been deprecated since Java 9 and are slated for 
> complete removal from the platform in a future release. This StackOverflow 
> <https://stackoverflow.com/a/45535138/1124740>provides more detail.
>
> On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 5:29:52 PM UTC-4 nnu...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Alternatively, you could extend TiddlyWiki to support WebAssembly 
>> <https://blog.dmitryalexandrov.net/webassembly-for-java-developers/>.  
>> This would allow you to dispatch tiddlers to the Wasm bridge, and then 
>> provide implementation in any language that supports compilation to 
>> WebAssembly.  There's definitely support for cross compiling Java bytecode 
>> to wasm bytecode (see the link I provided for more context.)
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Norman
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 2:37 PM Андрей Тюрюмин  wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like what I need, I'll try it tomorrow, thanks!
>>>
>>> четверг, 4 ноября 2021 г. в 04:30:37 UTC+3, flanc...@gmail.com: 
>>>
>>>> Hi Андрей, 
>>>>
>>>> Haven’t been working with TW as much as a few months ago, but hopefully 
>>>> I can be some help here. 
>>>>
>>>> In HTML, we have what are called Java applets, which allow you to run 
>>>> Java code natively in the web browser. 
>>>>
>>>> A tutorial on these is available at 
>>>> https://www.w3schools.in/java-tutorial/java-applets/.
>>>>
>>>> You could probably put an HTML applet code directly into a tiddler, but 
>>>> if not, I’m sure someone else can think of some creative ways to squeeze 
>>>> html code into the tiddler. Can’t test right now as I’m away from 
>>>> keyboard, 
>>>> but let me know how it goes! 
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully this is useful for you! 
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>>  Finn Lancaster
>>>>  www.finnsoftware.net
>>>>  Open-source since 2019
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 9:49 AM Андрей Тюрюмин  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if there is any way to use Java (NOT javaScript) with 
>>>>> TiddlyWiki? Even if only for local usage. Maybe it could be somehow 
>>>>> possible to use .jsp pages for "Java tiddlers", maybe with some usage of 
>>>>> tomcat? Any helpful plugins?
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S. Sorry if my english is bad.
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Re: [tw5] Java in TiddliWiki

[jwd]

I think you will find that Java applets are no longer supported in any 
modern browser. They've been deprecated since Java 9 and are slated for 
complete removal from the platform in a future release. This StackOverflow 
provides more detail.

On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 5:29:52 PM UTC-4 nnu...@gmail.com wrote:

> Alternatively, you could extend TiddlyWiki to support WebAssembly 
> .  
> This would allow you to dispatch tiddlers to the Wasm bridge, and then 
> provide implementation in any language that supports compilation to 
> WebAssembly.  There's definitely support for cross compiling Java bytecode 
> to wasm bytecode (see the link I provided for more context.)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Norman
>
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 2:37 PM Андрей Тюрюмин  wrote:
>
>> Looks like what I need, I'll try it tomorrow, thanks!
>>
>> четверг, 4 ноября 2021 г. в 04:30:37 UTC+3, flanc...@gmail.com: 
>>
>>> Hi Андрей, 
>>>
>>> Haven’t been working with TW as much as a few months ago, but hopefully 
>>> I can be some help here. 
>>>
>>> In HTML, we have what are called Java applets, which allow you to run 
>>> Java code natively in the web browser. 
>>>
>>> A tutorial on these is available at 
>>> https://www.w3schools.in/java-tutorial/java-applets/.
>>>
>>> You could probably put an HTML applet code directly into a tiddler, but 
>>> if not, I’m sure someone else can think of some creative ways to squeeze 
>>> html code into the tiddler. Can’t test right now as I’m away from keyboard, 
>>> but let me know how it goes! 
>>>
>>> Hopefully this is useful for you! 
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>  Finn Lancaster
>>>  www.finnsoftware.net
>>>  Open-source since 2019
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 9:49 AM Андрей Тюрюмин  wrote:
>>>
 I wonder if there is any way to use Java (NOT javaScript) with 
 TiddlyWiki? Even if only for local usage. Maybe it could be somehow 
 possible to use .jsp pages for "Java tiddlers", maybe with some usage of 
 tomcat? Any helpful plugins?

 P.S. Sorry if my english is bad.

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[tw5] Re: 10 Years of TiddlyWiki Development in 7 Minutes

[jwd]

And here is another github repo visualization tool / article 
<https://next.github.com/projects/repo-visualization>  - although I have to 
say I do not find running it on TiddlyWiki's repo 
<https://octo-repo-visualization.vercel.app/?repo=Jermolene%2FTiddlyWiki5> 
all that instructive.

On Wednesday, August 25, 2021 at 8:38:38 PM UTC-4 jwd wrote:

> I've not (yet) watched the TEDx talk. I read the book years ago and it 
> continues to make an impression on me.
>
> I believe https://github.com/adamtornhill/code-maat is the corresponding 
> code repo. The README there talks about various visualization options.
>
> On Wednesday, August 25, 2021 at 9:50:26 AM UTC-4 PMario wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, August 25, 2021 at 4:36:23 AM UTC+2 jwd wrote:
>>
>>> If you are interested in other visualizations like this and related 
>>> software code analysis you might find the book Your Code as a Crime 
>>> Scene <https://pragprog.com/titles/atcrime/your-code-as-a-crime-scene/> 
>>> - available from various book sellers - usefully thought provoking.  If 
>>> books aren't your bag you can also watch a TEDx talk 
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ_hplxTYJw> by the author.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for the link. 
>> Did have a look at the TEDx talk. Very interesting. 
>>
>> Did you read the book?
>> Is there some software, that created the "heat maps"? ... It would be 
>> nice to see those maps for our project. 
>> -mario
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: 10 Years of TiddlyWiki Development in 7 Minutes

[jwd]

I've not (yet) watched the TEDx talk. I read the book years ago and it 
continues to make an impression on me.

I believe https://github.com/adamtornhill/code-maat is the corresponding 
code repo. The README there talks about various visualization options.

On Wednesday, August 25, 2021 at 9:50:26 AM UTC-4 PMario wrote:

> On Wednesday, August 25, 2021 at 4:36:23 AM UTC+2 jwd wrote:
>
>> If you are interested in other visualizations like this and related 
>> software code analysis you might find the book Your Code as a Crime Scene 
>> <https://pragprog.com/titles/atcrime/your-code-as-a-crime-scene/> - 
>> available from various book sellers - usefully thought provoking.  If books 
>> aren't your bag you can also watch a TEDx talk 
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ_hplxTYJw> by the author.
>>
>
> Thanks for the link. 
> Did have a look at the TEDx talk. Very interesting. 
>
> Did you read the book?
> Is there some software, that created the "heat maps"? ... It would be nice 
> to see those maps for our project. 
> -mario
>
>

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[tw5] Re: 10 Years of TiddlyWiki Development in 7 Minutes

[jwd]

If you are interested in other visualizations like this and related 
software code analysis you might find the book Your Code as a Crime Scene 
 - 
available from various book sellers - usefully thought provoking.  If books 
aren't your bag you can also watch a TEDx talk 
 by the author.

On Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 8:18:18 AM UTC-4 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> That is a breathtakingly fantastic creation.
>
> It is like watching a time-lapse chapter from the TiddlyWiki book of 
> Genesis.
>
> I love how it makes TiddlyWiki look like a living critter. (enter Gene 
> Wilder screaming it's alive 
> !)
>
> On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 3:32:16 PM UTC-3 PMario wrote:
>
>>
>> 10 Years of TiddlyWiki Development in 7 Minutes 
>>  
>>
>> have fun!
>> mario
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] "I moved to Discourse" - add your name too?

[jwd]

If you've not used discourse-based forums I could understand how "summaries 
if one stays away" could seem backwards. I actually find it useful in other 
forums I follow. If you are busy doing other things you'll get a summary of 
popular topics you've missed that can remind you to re-engage. If you are 
actively visiting the forum you won't be bothered with pointless email 
about with things you've probably already seen.

You'll soon learn to re-visit the forum discussions that pique your 
interest from the email and reply there.

On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 at 12:13:47 PM UTC-4 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> It only sends summaries if one stays away from the forum?  What the frig 
> kind of messed-up design is that ?
>
> There are certain kinds of flaws that I can tolerate and some of those 
> even understand, but that design has me feeling this way 
>  about the designer.
>
> On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 at 11:27:28 AM UTC-3 Mark S. wrote:
>
>> Hi Ed,
>>
>> Gosh, your situation sounds scary. I don't know if I could stick with it 
>> under your circumstances.
>>
>> Yes, you will need to sign up at talk.tiddlywiki.org. But the good news 
>> is that you can use your existing gmail address, so you won't have to learn 
>> anything new there.
>>
>> Once you sign up, you, or a helper, will need to navigate to the settings:
>>
>> In the upper right hand corner click on your avatar, then on the little 
>> man tab, then on the cog, then from the list on the left click on "Emails". 
>> Under "Activity Summary" you can select to receive a summary weekly, 
>> monthly, or bi-annually.  I could put together some screen shots if that 
>> would help, though I feel that should be done with someone with an official 
>> capacity.
>>
>> The funny thing is, to get these summaries, you have to NEVER visit the 
>> new forum! It only sends you summaries if you stay away!
>>
>> The thing I don't know is if you can reply to a summary, just like to an 
>> email. Maybe an admin can comment. 
>>
>> There is a mail list mode, but it sends you every single post, which I 
>> don't think is what you want. Most other systems have mail list modes with 
>> summaries, but that option isn't on the drop down.
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 8:15:03 AM UTC-7 eddi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Unless Jeremy plans to do the same sorry but no thanks and even then 
>>> probably not. Other than it being a perhaps more feature rich, and newer 
>>> platform is there really a burning need to make this switch now? I know its 
>>> been debated here for a long time and have read the arguments both for and 
>>> against but this sounds as though it is being forced upon us regardless of 
>>> Jeremys reluctance to do so for some reason. Maybe google has announced it 
>>> is killing off groups, Jeremy has decided it is for the best, or something 
>>> else I am unaware of? (very possible I suffer from brain damage and am no 
>>> longer really in the know anymore, but do rely on getting these emails to 
>>> try and stay up on developments with TiddlyWiki and the plugin work being 
>>> done). I can still use TiddlyWiki to great advantage but no longer have the 
>>> ability to write plugins or do many things I used to do before. Anything 
>>> new is pretty much impossible for me to learn. Will discourse offer these 
>>> email updates like the one I am responding to here and will those of us who 
>>> choose not to join discourse (my mind is unable to learn new things) be 
>>> registered to receive those if this is done or will I need to register my 
>>> email address in their site in order to keep these condensed emails coming 
>>> to me? I also feel there is a wealth of historical information in this 
>>> group that would be a shame if not transferred over (perhaps it has?) 
>>> Anyway, I hope replying to "all" is the proper way to ask. If not I do 
>>> apologize. Also, I am not being critical of this change just explaining my 
>>> inability to do this and feel it is pointless unless Jeremy wants to make 
>>> this change as well. If so I guess this group can still stand as an archive 
>>> of all the history and work that has been done to get us here and if it 
>>> offers that condensed email capability then maybe. I DO NOT want an email 
>>> for every post being made thats is an absolute! 
>>>
>>> Thanks, 
>>> On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at 9:21:36 AM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:
>>>
 JW Are you on the specific instance of discourse? 
 https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/

 Regards
 Tones

 On Sunday, 22 August 2021 at 20:55:10 UTC+10 JWHoneycutt wrote:

> Signed up for Discourse - can't find any hits when searching 
> "TiddlyWiki" - did I just lose access to the community?
> JWH
>
> On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 10:23:29 PM UTC-4 joshua@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Definitely moving over to the Discourse community. See you all there!
>>

[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki Can Create Native Presentations in Microsoft PowerPoint, Apple Keynote, and other applications

[jwd]

Instead of depending on a JS library one might do better to see if pandoc 
https://pandoc.org/ can take tiddlywiki formats as input and use those to 
convert to *anything* pandoc supports. The "do one thing well" philosophy 
as contrasted with zawinski's law. A web search suggests combining 
tiddlywiki with pandoc has come up before though.

On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 12:26:46 AM UTC-4 barro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Concerning exporting to Word, I had tried using a custom export template 
> for html since Word can recognize html/open xml but does it terribly, it 
> doesn't keep all formatting.  I don't know if MS ever corrected that issue 
> or how well Open Office may import html from TW.
> On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 6:41:37 PM UTC-4 PMario wrote:
>
>> Hi, 
>> The biggest problem I see with libraries like this is, that they only 
>> work in 1 direction. So if you edit your document in powerpoint, you can't 
>> easily convert it back to TW. 
>> -m
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: How to launch batch scripts from TiddlyDesktop in linux?

[jwd]

What you may be looking for is the correct "Shebang 
" line at the top of the 
script that determines the interpreter to use (assuming the executable bit 
has been set.)

Typically I would use something like
#!/usr/bin/env bash
or, if you want to be specific
#!/path/to/your/systems/bash

The former will use the bash executable found first in the PATH of the 
environment of the TiddlyDesktop process; the latter would be preferred 
unless the script might run on systems where the path to the interpreter my 
differ, e.g., Macs have an old version of bash by default; while different 
Linux distributions' bash may be in /bin or /usr/bin.

HTH
On Friday, January 22, 2021 at 5:14:22 AM UTC-5 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> Ciao Mark S.
>
> I really looked into it. TBH I can't truthfully reply to your simple 
> question.
>
> Background: I using (mainly) Timimi to launch from TW (it is fairly 
> complex & now retired in the recent version); TiddlyDesktop (fussy, mainly 
> because it is Chrome inside?); BobEXE (very flexible on scripting; best of 
> the batch; but overkill for most of my limited needs).
>
> Outcome: too many variants to address your basic query simply.
>
> Best wishes
> TT
> On Monday, 18 January 2021 at 19:30:32 UTC+1 Mark S. wrote:
>
>> I don't suppose you remember if there was a way to insert spaces? A sh 
>> script should always know to run itself, but if I could specify 
>> "/usr/bin/bash myshellscript.sh " that should force the system to 
>> invoke it correctly.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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Re: [tw5] Personal News

[jwd]

Hoping you are well on the way to being mended. Rest easy in the knowledge 
that you have helped a vast number of heads to be big enough to hold 
everything we need to remember.

Be well

Jonathan 

On Friday, May 22, 2020 at 4:05:49 AM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Thank you again for all the messages. It now finally seems like things are 
> slowly starting to improve. Mindful of the advice I've had here and 
> elsewhere I'm staying in bed for the moment (and taking vitamin D, using an 
> oximeter and drinking plenty of water). I've still got a fever, headache, 
> and my brain feels like it's been lightly scrambled, but I'm thankful that 
> this is evidently a pretty mild case, and hopefully I'll be back in action 
> soon. 
>
> Best wishes 
>
> Jeremy. 
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyServer upgraded to TiddlyWiki 5.1.21

[jwd]

So maybe I am missing something obvious but when I visit the above link or 
its home page https://arlen22.github.io/tiddlyserver/ I see no link to the 
actual current download location.

You might want to include a Download section or a prominent link to 
https://github.com/Arlen22/TiddlyServer/releases/ in the Getting Started 
steps. 

Similarly with the README at https://github.com/Arlen22/TiddlyServer - 
where the Tiddlywiki site links. It does not seem apparent to this visitor 
where one goes to get the goods without finding the link in the original 
post above.

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[tw5] Re: bash script fails after git update (node.js on linux)

[jwd]

It is bash and so $ generally introduces a variable substitution. You might 
have some luck with making sure that the --server parameter is not being 
interpreted in some odd way by quoting it:

tiddlywiki /home/rich/Dropbox/FiddlyWiki --server '$:/core/save/lazy-all'

Your shebang line does not look quite right either:
 #! /bin/bash
should be without spaces:
#!/bin/bash
or
#!/usr/bin/env bash

I am guessing the incorrect shebang line might be causing the desktop 
launcher's Exec directive to fail or use sh (though it would not explain 
why the process shows up in the system monitor.)

killall node is a bit of a blunt instrument. On some flavors of Linux you 
might find pkill -f tiddlywiki would be sure that the correct process 
running node is being killed successfully.

Last, the bare tiddlywiki command - one presumes tiddlywiki is in the PATH 
that ,xdg-open gives to the process running the refiddle shell script and 
that the location of the correct version of node is in the environment that 
tiddlywiki's shebang line is going to get. Setting your path expectations 
in the refiddle script
export PATH=/where/tiddlywiki/is:/where/node/is:${PATH}
might address mysterious behavior. Again, I am mystified why the node 
process would continue to show up in the process list.

Those are all the ideas that occur to me.

On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 3:15:50 AM UTC-5, Rich wrote:

> Tiddlywiki  5.1.20 prerelease on nodjs on manjaro linux
>
> I have a little bash script that runs on starting the system or that I 
> manually run to reload TW after updates and such.  The script has worked 
> fine to this point, and if I run it from the command line it still works, 
> but when I launch it from its desktop file without going to a terminal it 
> refuses to start. Although it shows up in the system monitor, the browser 
> won't load the page, indicating that the node server did not actually start 
> serving anything.
>
> Here is the refiddle script:
>
>  #! /bin/bash
> #restart TiddlyWIki node.js server after updates
> killall node
> tiddlywiki /home/rich/Dropbox/FiddlyWiki --server $:/core/save/lazy-all
>
> I can't use the newer --listen directive in place of server bacause it 
> does not recognize the lazy loading param at the end while --server still 
> does.
> If I run from command line or alt-f2 with full path it runs fine, but it 
> fails to run when launched from the .desktop file below.  I only updated 
> TW, not the script or desktop file, both of which worked fine before the 
> update as far as I can tell.
>
> .desktop launcher:
> #!/usr/bin/env xdg-open
> [Desktop Entry]
> Encoding=UTF-8
> Name=refiddle
> Categories=Acessories
> Exec=/home/rich/bin/refiddle
> Icon=/usr/share/icons/HighContrast/scalable/actions/view-refresh.svg
> StartupNotify=false
> Terminal=false
> Type=Application
> Comment=Restart FiddlyWiki
>
> I tried a few things but am basically stumped as to why it is failing.  
> ANyone have any ideas?
>
>

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[tw5] Re: How to use TW for college math notes? (beginner)

[jwd]

A couple suggestions from someone who has used TW for class and project 
note taking:

   1. Keep it simple - don't spend so much time tweaking TW with plugins 
   and making your note taking tool super powerful that you lose sight of the 
   primary goal of taking class notes. I have found tweaking TW can be quite a 
   (pleasurable) time sink and I have more than once taken my eye off the 
   reason I was using TW in the first place. Be wary of falling into that trap.
   2. Backup, backup, backup - you don't want to find at exam time that 
   something you changed mid semester corrupted content in some way.

FWIW I evolved over a dozen+ years from TWC to now using the TiddlyServer / 
separate external tid files maintained in multiple Git repos approach, with 
a minimum of plugins. That might not be an approach for someone just 
starting.

On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 10:42:49 AM UTC-5, Evžen Wybitul wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> I'm revising my note-taking system for the next semester. Initially I 
> planned to use simple Markdown files, maybe with some tags added, but I can 
> see that TW could be better for my use case — I'm a math major and I could 
> use some modular definition/theorem Tiddlers that could be interlinked and 
> tagged, rather than searching for them in individual markdown files. I have 
> a question, though:
>
> *How should I start?*
>
> There's so many different plugins, saving schemes, different servers, 
> themes... Is there any TW that would skip all the hassle and come with (the 
> most important) batteries included? And which are those "batteries" anyway? 
> I don't want to miss out on something great just because I don't know I 
> need it. The question could be phrased differently:
>
> *How would you take college/class/meeting notes with TW? Which plugins, 
> which workflow? And how would you review the notes later?*
>
> I'm sorry, I didn't manage to find the info I'm looking for here in this 
> group, nor on the internet. Thank you for your help.
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5 and Html Entity

[jwd]

FWIW, the fonts settings TW uses match those recommended in Shipping system 
fonts to GitHub.com , 
an article that I vaguely recall learning about here on the TW Google Group 
though can't find that now (May 2018 maybe?)

The article goes into considerable detail on how and why GitHub arrived at 
this combination for maximum platform / browser compatibility for GitHub's 
UI purposes. TW's may be different.

On Thursday, December 27, 2018 at 12:27:20 PM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hello Eric,
>  Yep, your solution worked! Thank you!
>
> I also agree to have TW with generic fonts. Users can set the fonts based 
> on their requirements or they choose the taste they like.
>
>
> --Mohammad
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[tw5] Re: OT: Just wanted to let you know: The Web Design Museum

[jwd]

For the historians the Internet Archive (aka the Wayback Machine) has 2300+ 
captures of the state of http://tiddlywiki.com between Sep 2004 and Sep 
2018 that you can re-visit: 
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://tiddlywiki.com/ 


The first public appearance of TW5 (beta) seems to have been 
https://web.archive.org/web/20140102201431/http://tiddlywiki.com/ ; or 
maybe 
https://web.archive.org/web/20120625025333/http://alpha.tiddlywiki.com:80/ 
The last major appearance of what is now TWC seems to have been 
https://web.archive.org/web/20131116112220/http://tiddlywiki.com/ 

Exploring the evolution of the site map 
https://web.archive.org/web/sitemap/http://tiddlywiki.com/ can be 
interesting as well.

Have fun!

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[tw5] Re: Linking multiple TWs together

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I'm not sure if what I do will work for your 'linking' use case but 

   1. I use Arlen's TiddlyServer  
   implementation
   2. I created separate tiddlyiki's whose tiddlers I want to share or have 
   in common in companion directories to where I keep my main TiddlyWikis, the 
   ones where I want to access those shared/common tiddlers
   3. In TiddlyServer's settings.json I define those as 'internal' TWs, e.g:
   "internal": {
   "shared": "/path/to/TW/Shared",
   "common": "/path/to/TW/Common"
   },
   
   4. In the 'main' TW's that I want to link those with I include those 
   wikis in the , e.g., in /path/to/TW/Home/tiddlywiki.info file:
   "includeWikis": [
   "../Common",
   "../Shared"
 ],

I'm not typically accessing those 'main' TWs at the same time so your use 
case may be different. Typically I am accessing one main TW at work and 
another main TW at home. But there are some aspects of each that I consider 
shared (tiddlers on tech I am using in both locations) or common (tiddlers 
that represent tweaks I have made to TiddlyWiki itself that I don't want 
have to make repeatedly. By using this approach, as I sync the shared and 
common tiddlers (in git repos) between systems, I simply restart my 
TiddlyServer instance and reload the browser tab that contains the main TW. 
In the very rare case where I have made changes in a shared/common tiddler 
via either of the main TWs a simple git merge or conflict resolution fixes 
things up.

On Thursday, August 9, 2018 at 10:55:44 PM UTC-4, Yohan Fernando wrote:
>
> Hi, 
> Looking out for an option to link multiple TiddlyWikis together? That is, 
> to have one main wiki, but be able to access the tiddlers, search the 
> tiddlers from any wiki. I believe this is what the SharedTiddlersPlugin 
> did. I believe it doesn't work in TW5? I got an alert mentioning its only 
> meant for TW Classic. 
>
> Cheers,
>
> Yohan
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcing File Uploads - TiddlyServer 2.0.12

[jwd]

Arlen, I suggest you look at https://stackoverflow.com/a/8579946/1124740 - 
the second comment: "This will not work if you are crossing partitions or 
using a virtual filesystem not supporting moving files. You better use this 
solution  with a copy fallback" 
which links to a less (currently) accepted answer to the same question 
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/8579055/how-do-i-move-files-in-node-js/29105404#29105404
 


On Linux /tmp is often 'mounted' in RAM to increase speed. Google suggests 
MINT users often do this though I can't say if that is the default with 
MINT or something Mark has done with his installation. That would make your 
fs.rename (line 160 of tiddlyserver.ts) fail since you can't rename a file 
from one filesystem to another, you have to actually copy the bits and, on 
success unlink (remove) the original file as the alternative solution on 
stackoverflow does.

Thanks for continuing to maintain TiddlyServer.

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[tw] Re: Please send me links to your themes, adaptations, plugins, macros, etc

[jwd]

Thanks Dave, I found some useful tidbits among these.

This has the flavor of the many other, curated 'awesome-lists 
'. If your toolmap were to become 
an awesome-tiddlywiki github page it might be easier for those learning 
about TiddlyWiki to find and eager TW users to contribute to.

There was some effort in the past to auto-publish TW5 
 content as GitHub 
pages, mentioned here as recently as last November, that could perhaps be 
leveraged. I don't know if those would help to make your toolmap both 
awesome and TiddlyWiki-based while remaining free and not a maintenance 
headache.

Thanks again for the effort! 

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki and Git

[jwd]

It was the issues with git merge conflicts between single TiddlyWiki HTML 
files that pushed me over the edge to adopting the node.js / single file 
per tiddler approach and subsequently the TiddlyServer wrapper around that.

If your goal is sharing and synchronizing TW contents made on different, 
disconnected platforms I was unable to find another, easier way.

I've also found that, for a subset of tiddlers that I want to 'share' 
between two or more TiddlyWikis, the includeWikis capability of 
tiddlywiki.info works well for me. I have work, home, and a few other 
wikis, for example, all in a git repo. Changes I've made to TiddlyWiki 
configuration itself I keep in a sibling, Common TiddlyWiki tiddler 
collections; that I include in the sibling wikis via

  "includeWikis": [
"../Common",
  ],

That way I make the configuration change once and, on a node.js / 
TiddlyServer restart (and browser refresh), they all get the same 
configuration. If its something new I'll try it in one wiki and, once I'm 
satisfied, shuffle the tiddler file from its original wiki into the Common 
collection as part of git repo management. 

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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyServer 2.0 - Announcement!!!

[jwd]

Yup; looking good!  I haven't given it more than a very brief trial but 
multiple datafolders as well as a complete, single TiddlyWiki are all 
accessible now.

I'll follow up if I run into anything unexpected.  Thanks! Another nice 
option for serving TWs.

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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyServer 2.0 - Announcement!!!

[jwd]

Slightly different results after updating to the current master but still 
no joy.

I now get
$ node server.js
Settings file: /Volumes/CM/TiddlyServer/settings.json
Open you browswer and type in one of the following:
192.168.1.14:8080
complete
twboot: 502.720ms
[2017-06-23T22:48:56.184-0400] GET 302 :::192.168.1.14 
/daylog 511.828 ms - -
complete
twboot: 380.684ms
[2017-06-23T22:48:56.707-0400] GET 404 :::192.168.1.14 
/daylog/382.331 ms - -
syncer-server-filesystem: Dispatching 'save' task: $:/config/tiddlyweb/host
FileSystem: Saved file 
/Volumes/CM/TW/DayLog/tiddlers/$__config_tiddlyweb_host.tid
syncer-server-filesystem: Dispatching 'save' task: $:/StoryList
FileSystem: Saved file /Volumes/CM/TW/DayLog/tiddlers/$__StoryList.tid
syncer-server-filesystem: Dispatching 'save' task: $:/config/tiddlyweb/host
FileSystem: Saved file 
/Volumes/CM/TW/DayLog/tiddlers/$__config_tiddlyweb_host.tid
syncer-server-filesystem: Dispatching 'save' task: $:/StoryList
FileSystem: Saved file /Volumes/CM/TW/DayLog/tiddlers/$__StoryList.tid
[2017-06-23T22:52:13.988-0400] GET 200 ::1 
/   8.746 ms - -
[2017-06-23T22:52:14.021-0400] GET 200 ::1 
/directory.css  6.425 ms - 120
[2017-06-23T22:52:14.034-0400] GET 200 ::1 
/icons/folder.png   3.310 ms - 634
[2017-06-23T22:52:14.052-0400] GET 200 ::1 
/icons/datafolder.png   4.695 ms - 839
APP 2017-06-23 22:52:14  [IPv6-::1] state error Not Found
[2017-06-23T22:52:14.078-0400] GET 404 ::1 
/icons/category.png 8.362 ms - -
[2017-06-23T22:52:14.947-0400] GET 200 ::1 
/   8.231 ms - -
APP 2017-06-23 22:52:15  [IPv6-::1] state error Not Found
[2017-06-23T22:52:15.100-0400] GET 404 ::1 
/icons/category.png 8.860 ms - -
[2017-06-23T22:52:15.110-0400] GET 200 ::1 
/favicon.ico13.389 ms - 5430
[2017-06-23T22:52:44.676-0400] GET 302 ::1 
/daylog 4.911 ms - -
[2017-06-23T22:52:44.704-0400] GET 302 ::1 
/daylog 2.962 ms - -
[2017-06-23T22:52:44.714-0400] GET 404 ::1 
/daylog/4.399 ms - -

In answer to your questions

> Isn't your operating system using case sensitive filenames? 

Yes it is.  I am on MacOS; and while it's filesystem is generally case 
preserving but case insensitive I arrange things so that my TiddlyWiki 
contents are on a case sensitive filesystem.

> Hmm, everything looks good so far. Are there any errors in the web page 
console (F12)?

Nope, nothing in Chrome.  Firefox is noting "The character encoding of the 
plain text document was not declared. The document will render with garbled 
text in some browser configurations if the document contains characters 
from outside the US-ASCII range. The character encoding of the file needs 
to be declared in the transfer protocol or file needs to use a byte order 
mark as an encoding signature.  daylog" but there is no content showing at 
all on that 'daylog' tiddlywiki page (not even when I display page source.) 
Similarly if I access the page contents with `curl 
http://localhost:8080/daylog.

The top page shows what I set up in settings.json but I am unable to drill 
down and get anything a all.  I'll try to set up some bare bones tiddlywiki 
--server contents and see if I get the same results. 

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[tw] Re: TiddlyServer 2.0 - Announcement!!!

[jwd]

And I guess I should point out that I get the following in the shell when 
the settings.json file contains

   "daylog": "../TW/DayLog",


> tiddlyserver@2.0.0 start /Volumes/CM/TiddlyServer
> node server.js

Settings file: /Volumes/CM/TiddlyServer/settings.json
Open you browswer and type in one of the following:
192.168.1.14:8080
[2017-06-18T21:07:41.489-0400] GET 200 :::192.168.1.14 
/   9.463 ms - -
[2017-06-18T21:07:42.004-0400] GET 200 :::192.168.1.14 
/directory.css  2.063 ms - 120
[2017-06-18T21:07:42.029-0400] GET 200 :::192.168.1.14 
/icons/folder.png   1.504 ms - 634
[2017-06-18T21:07:42.034-0400] GET 200 :::192.168.1.14 
/icons/datafolder.png   1.238 ms - 839
APP 2017-06-18 21:07:42  [IPv6-:::192.168.1.14] state error Not Found
[2017-06-18T21:07:42.038-0400] GET 404 :::192.168.1.14 
/icons/category.png 1.152 ms - -
[2017-06-18T21:07:58.133-0400] GET 302 :::192.168.1.14 
/daylog 1.895 ms - -
complete
twboot: 584.988ms
[2017-06-18T21:07:58.806-0400] GET 404 :::192.168.1.14 
/daylog/587.226 ms - -
syncer-server-filesystem: Dispatching 'save' task: $:/StoryList
FileSystem: Saved file /Volumes/CM/TW/DayLog/tiddlers/$__StoryList.tid

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[tw] Re: TiddlyServer 2.0 - Announcement!!!

[jwd]

Looks interesting!  I am hopeful this works better than my current approach 
- which is to simply run different tiddlywiki --server's on different ports.

Is there a way to point settings.json at existing tiddlywiki --server 
directory hierarchy?

When I tried settings.json with:

"tree": {
"daylog": "../TW/DayLog/",
"projects": {
"project1": "../TW/Project1.html"
}

I get the single Project1.html file comtents as expected. But I get a blank 
page displayed at http://localhost:8080/daylog/, although TiddlyServer 
believes it to be a datafolder (it has a
tiddlywiki.info file and works using tiddlywiki --server). That DayLog 
directory hierarchy looks like:

DayLog
|-- tiddlers
|   |-- Journal
|   |-- Personal
|   `-- System
`-- tiddlywiki.info

Any idea what I am missing? How would one go about diagnosing problems?

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[tw] Customising Tiddler File Naming

[jwd]

'Customising Tiddler File Naming' 
 shows us how 
we can modify the directory hierarchy used for tiddlers by creating a 
$:/config/FileSystemPaths tiddler containing filter expressions.

*Is there way to also customize the actual tiddler name in addition to the 
directory path?*

I am motivated in part because 5.1.14 seems to have modified the behavior 
of nodejs tiddlywikis: spaces in tiddler titles are no longer replaced with 
'_' characters when generating file names.  I'd like to restore the old 
behavior - spaces in file names cause me grief. Is there a way with 
$:/config/FileSystemPaths to define a filter expression to restore the old 
5.1.13 behavior?

Related, my preference for journal entries is to have titles like 
2017/06/18 - so they sort more nicely. I'd like to create a 
$:/config/FileSystemPaths filter expression
  [tag[journal]addprefix[Journal/]]
so that the Journal entries end up in a directory. But with my tiddler 
title preference plus the behavior of $:/config/FileSystemPaths where "If 
none of the filters matches, the logical path is simply the title with all 
occurences of / replaced by _ (for backwards compatibility)", because one 
of my filters *does* result in a match, that's going to start making deeper 
Journal//mm/dd.tid directory hierarchies. I'd like
  [tag[journal]addprefix[Journal/]] something
so that I can end up with Journal/_mm_dd.tid tiddler files. Is there an 
easy way to do that with $:/config/FileSystemPaths; or is that only for 
directory paths, not tiddler names? I don't see a filter operator to use to 
accomplish either. Maybe I need something other than a filter operator? If 
so how? (Other than changing my Control Panel preference for Title of new 
journal tiddlers 
; which I 
guess might accomplish that goal but seems like a "you've got to change to 
accommodate TiddlyWiki vs the normal TW flexibility.)

If $:/config/FileSystemPaths is not the right way to accomplish either or 
both of these can you inform me what is?

Thanks!

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki StackExchange

[jwd]

It appears to me as though the proposal has passed it's first milestone.  I 
received an email from StackExchange: "A Q site proposal which you are 
following, TiddlyWiki, is now moving into the commitment phase. If you plan 
to participate in this site, please indicate your support by committing:"

Congratulations to the community and thank you Arlen for starting this! Now 
on to the next phase - actually answering questions posed during the 
proposal phase "A good Q site needs critical mass to get off the ground, 
so if the site doesn't receive enough commitment, we won't create it.  ... 
Before the site is created, it needs people to commit to use it. Right now, 
it's 7%"

Now is the time to commit to participating 
https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/105326/tiddlywiki - and actually 
participate in answering the questions that received the most votes; and 
any others you can. I'll be looking them over to see if I can address any.

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[tw] Re: Node.js save mechanism (to interface with git)

[jwd]

Coming late to this but , you could also delegate the git interface to a 
separate nodejs process using something like 
https://www.npmjs.com/package/watch-fs to watch for tiddler updates. 

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[tw] Re: Easy way to combine TW5 files?

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I'm sure it is not the intended way to accomplish this but what I do is use 
the TiddlyWiki server / node.js version that maintains tiddlers as separate 
files.  Then, I create a maOS/Unix symlink in one TiddlyWiki tiddler 
collection that points to the tiddler that I want to include from another 
collection. 

$ ln -s ../../DayLog/tiddlers/TiddlyWiki_Additions.tid .

Then, if I update that tiddler what actually gets updated is the 'master' 
copy in the other collection - in this case my DayLog. git merges of these 
tiddler collections help me keep my sanity if I end up updating the same 
tiddler in different instantiations of my TiddlyWiki's. For me, it makes 
the same information show up in multiple places, effectively combining 
selected tiddlers in multiple TiddlyWiki.

Whether Windows junctions would permit the same on that platform I leave as 
an exercise. Nor have I tried simply moving a bunch of tiddlers into a 
sub-directory and symlinking to that subdirectory.
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On Tuesday, March 28, 2017 at 2:15:03 PM UTC-4, JWHoneycutt wrote:
>
> Hello all, 
>
> I would like to combine a few TW5 files into one, and I would like to 
> avoid having to import individual tiddlers (too many).
>
> Is there a plugin that handles this?
>
> Intelligent handling of duplicate tiddler names and ability to add a tag 
> to every tiddler in a particular database are pluses.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> JWHoneycutt
>

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[tw] Re: T-blog project: Traditional blogs / Disqus integration / 5 themes.

[jwd]

After investigating a little further I am a bit confused Riz. Perhaps I am 
just not understanding your intention, or the limitations of static file 
creation, or I just have a fundamental misunderstanding of what you mean by 
a 'theme'. Can you help me understand?

I cloned the git t-blog repo and looked at the contents of each of the 
themes you have created so far. Each one has, for example, a 
Second_Short_Post.tid; and sometimes several versions as seen by `find . 
-name 'Second_Short_Post*'`, e.g., Posts Set[234]/Second_Short_Post.tid. 
The other, what I would call 'content' tiddlers, are (essentially) 
duplicated as well - some have more dummy text than others. I leave the 
question of why there are different Posts Sets to another time. The key 
observation is there does not seem to be anything theme specific in any of 
those tiddlers; they are just standard tiddler fields, text, and I imagine 
could also have TiddlyWiki markup.

What I *expected* was that blog '*content*' (tiddlers the user adds to 
their blog as 'posts') would be kept separate from the presentation aspects 
provided by a theme - the layout, font selection, etc. So that for example 
there would be one directory containing tiddlers of blog content, sort of 
like the 'demo' directories that are in each theme directory now, but 
stored somewhere like the Documentation directory is now; and that's where 
new blog posts would be stored. Making an analogy with WordPress, tiddlers 
would be equivalent to post records in the WordPress MySQL database.

I expected there would also be Astrid, Attila, Illdy, ... directories that 
have tiddlers that provide design, layout, and other presentation aspects 
of a blog. Again, the analogy to the WordPress world would be 
wp-content/themes/Astrid, Attila, ... I would expect to find tiddlers in 
these directories such as the Siderbar/, HeaderNav/ , and Tab contents - 
but no actual user content. Maybe at most some documentation.tid that 
provides theme specific details.

So I expected there might be a BlogContent directory where blog entry 
tiddlers are stored - initially empty except for a few example blog posts 
the user could delete once they get the idea. The reason for this 
separation would be so that when users are ready to publish they probably 
want an easy way to exclude the Documentation, that helped them get that 
far, from the rest of the world reading their blog.

That way, if a user wanted to change themes, it *might* be as easy as 
changing the configuration of the BlogContents/tiddlywiki.ifo file to 
specify they wanted to switch from using, e.g., Attila to Minions. Finally 
when the user is ready to "publish" they would `tiddlywiki 
t-blog/BlogContent --build` The resulting static files of blog entries 
would then all get the current theme applied in the generated html, css, 
etc. files. (Switching themes assumes a theme does not require adding any 
extra stuff, e.g., additional fields in content tiddlers. That problem 
would be similar to the way you can get kind of tied to a particular 
WordPress theme; but users of a theme could always make that choice, 
however.)  Basically the Separation of presentation and content 
 
principle 

Is it just early days in the development of t-blog? Does this notion fit 
into your roadmap? I admit I'm not sure how to make it simple for users - 
generally adverse to command lines - to switch themes. Or how you get 
`tiddlywiki --server` to adapt to a new theme - short of stopping the 
server, editing the content of tiddlywiki.info and starting the server 
again. Nor have I used static file generation with TW5 enough to know if 
that is even possible. I do like the idea of transforming tiddlywiki 
content into a set of static files for a variety of reasons. Even if this 
separation of presentation and content notion is not on your roadmap thank 
you for this implementation that has given me a lot of food for thought.

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[tw] Re: T-blog project: Traditional blogs / Disqus integration / 5 themes.

[jwd]

Very interesting once again - well done. Going to need to investigate this 
development more deeply. To me this seems like a lightweight WordPress. As 
someone struggling to wrap my head around how to do in WordPress what I can 
imagine relatively easily doing in TiddlyWiki this has promise.The 
'Category Indexes and Search Functionality in your roadmap seem key to 
making that lightweight WordPress leap.

One note: on the github page both the Demo and Documentation links in 
README.md go to the demo page.

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Re: [tw] Re: Calling all TiddlyWiki users

[jwd]

Thanks for the kind words. 

I see the proposed group has achieved its first goal of having 50 
followers. Now it just needs 25 more questions that 10 or more followers 
think are great examples of the kinds of things Tiddliwikians want to know 
to move on to the next phase.

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Re: [tw] Re: Does anyone have a strategy for automatically reloading TW when the underlying file changes?

[jwd]

Close.  This is how I transitioned from a single file version to the 
node.js version; assuming I had a single file version called SingleFile.html

   1. mkdir SingleFile
   2. tiddlywiki SingleFile --init server
   3. tiddlywiki SingleFile --load SingleFile.html
   4. tiddlywiki SingleFile --server 
   5. Visit localhost: in browser of choice, make new tiddlers, edit 
   old tiddlers, ...

My SingleFile directory actually lives in a git repo with my other 
tiddlywiki --server directories, so my next steps are typically to check 
the status of the git repo with my git GUI tool of choice, (currently that 
is SourceTree), add the tiddlers that have 
been created or modified to the git index, commit those changes, push the 
updated index to other copies of my git repos; merge those changes at the 
other end, start up tiddlywiki --servers on those platforms; rinse and 
repeat. Those git repo commits are my tiddlywiki backups so it is easy to 
get back to a functioning state if I mess up.


If I have made changes to the same tiddlers in different copies of the git 
repo (rare but sometimes I do that) the git merges will have conflicts that 
I need to reconcile. Those that the diff tool I use (diffmerge 
) can't automatically handle I reconcile 
by hand. (Modification times will be in conflict for example.)


FWIW, I also have a .gitignore file that includes:

# TiddlyWiki elements that change on every update that I don't care about
$__StoryList.tid

Hope that helps

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[tw] Re: Does anyone have a strategy for automatically reloading TW when the underlying file changes?

[jwd]

I switched to the node.js version for just this reason. My single, 
standalone HTML versions got too big and I began experiencing a lot of 
problems merging the changes I'd made in separate tiddlers that git's 
diff-ing did not readily identify. I began doing a lot of manual editing of 
what was effectively TiddlyWiki internals. The tiddlywiki --server - 
tidders as separate files concept - instantly solved those, and several 
other problems. Tiddler files are much more amenable to the use case I 
share with you "TiddlyWiki on multiple machines, and in order to 
synchronize changes between them..." I rely on git.

Since I've switched to the node.js version I've begun taking another simple 
but dumb approach: when I have a tiddler that I want to share between 
tiddlywiki servers I simply create a symbolic link in one to the master 
version of that tiddler in the other. My TiddlyWiki's are beginning to get 
a lot more intertwined as a result. (I just need to remember to restart the 
servers when I merge changes.) 

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Re: [tw] Re: Calling all TiddlyWiki users

[jwd]

Mind if I chime in?

I've had a StackOverflow account for five years. Finding answers to 
questions on StackExchange sites has become so second nature to me that I 
was surprised by Josiah's questions and comments and the little follow-on 
discussion this proposal has had. Maybe I've forgotten how StackExchange 
seemed in the beginning. If you are not familiar with the many communities 
  I suggest you take the tour 
 which may help explain the concept in 
general.

I find the various StackExchange communities that I participate in akin to 
the TiddlyWiki community here - generally people seem to eager to help and 
are forthcoming with useful suggestions. One difference, I think, is that 
the good answers to questions tend to get voted up to the top. People who 
ask a question that already has a good (set of) answers will get pointed to 
that. Rather than the many problems with the Google Group that Josiah has 
eloquently identified.

When I use StackExchange sites I also get a lot of useful information from 
the comments that the community makes about questions and answers over 
time. So answers that used to be good but have been superseded over time 
will frequently get a comment highlighting a better answer.

The whole reputation thing can be, I imagine, a little off-putting. Don't 
let it throw you. You gain some reputation just by participating - I earned 
some by simply editing one of my proposed questions to improve the wording. 
On StackOverflow proper I have earned most of my reputation points from one 
(1) good answer that a lot of people have come across and it solved their 
problem. To learn more about reputation see 
http://stackoverflow.com/help/whats-reputation

But StackExchange reputation is *not* why I participate in those 
communities. I participate and use the privileges I've earned (I'm up to 
editor) because the StackExchange communities have improved my life, making 
it easier to find answers that are curated by the people who really know 
something about the technology, whatever that is. By participating I feel 
like I'm giving a little of that back. So when a Google search leads me to 
a StackExchange community vetted answer I'll up vote that question and that 
answer; and maybe spend a few extra minutes doing some of my editor review 
duties.

So I urge participants in this Google Group to join the proposed TiddlyWiki  
Q group .  
As the proposed group tag line says at this phase of its development "We 
want to find the best example questions." I don't think the proposed 
StackExchange TiddlyWiki Q site would replace this Google Group; but one 
could go a long way toward answering well the questions that seem to come 
up here frequently in a way that can evolve as TiddlyWiki does.

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[tw] Re: Calling all TiddlyWiki users

[jwd]

Plus, by revisiting, commenting on, and editing content to improve it you 
earn 'badges' that contribute to your stackexchange community abilities. 
Those can, if you are motivated enough, lead to additional 'reputation' and 
responsibility. This is one of the aspects of StackExchange that makes some 
of its communities successful.

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki StackExchange

[jwd]

As one who finds lots of useful information daily on StackExchange sites I 
applaud this idea and added a few proposed questions. 

I can see tiddlywiki.stackexchange.com becoming a much more valuable way to 
find answers to questions involving, e.g., questions tagged [list] [tag] 
[sort]. Even if the area51 proposal does not pass there would be nothing 
preventing simply adding to the Q found 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/tiddlywiki currently.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Timestamp

[jwd]

Oh, very nice. Thanks @Bob for asking the question, @Riz for the solution, 
and @Mark for the suggestion to add a keyboard shortcut to that solution. 
That will save me some addition of date stamps that I've been using instead 
of full journal tiddlers; the repetitious entry of which has been starting 
to bug me.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Prerelease of v5.1.14

[jwd]

Not to be a wet blanket but ...

> Basically, QR codes can be used to transfer any block of text that isn’t 
too long/complicated to fit.

And that, of course, leads to the downsides of QR codes, e.g., 
https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Qrljacking - the misuse of QR Codes to do 
not so nice things.

It seems to me that folks who use them on TW sites that allow federated 
content are going to be implicitly trusting every other person with write 
access to that federated content. Even static TW's on public sites are 
going to have the same implications. It does not seem that there is 
anything keeping from me putting a QR Code in a tiddler claiming to be my 
contact info but instead sending the unsuspecting user to a phishing web 
site first, or a Rick Roll. Or it might not be me but someone who simply 
has obtained my login information to that publicly accessible content. 
Maybe using Qrljacking.

The TW community seems to be a very helpful one. But with its popularity 
and capabilities increasing I am not sure that will remain universally true 
indefinitely. A google of 'qr code vulnerabilities' mentions might give you 
pause.

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On Tuesday, October 18, 2016 at 9:01:16 AM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> There’s been a rash of updates to v5.1.14 in the last 10 days, making it a 
> good time to have a look at the prerelease at 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease
>
> I’d like to highlight the new QR code generator plugin (installed in the 
> prerelease so that you can try it out easily). I had little idea about QR 
> codes before the recent correspondence here on the mailing list, but am now 
> a convert. If you don’t have a QR code reader on your smartphone I’d highly 
> recommend installing one to play with the prerelease.
>
> Basically, QR codes can be used to transfer any block of text that isn’t 
> too long/complicated to fit. There are conventions for passing URLs, 
> contact information, wifi details etc., but there is complete freedom; one 
> can make a QR code of JSON if you want (actually a bad idea as the special 
> characters appear to compress badly).
>
> The QR code plugin adds a generic macro for generating a QR code from a 
> string, and also adds a couple of pre-built ways to use it:
>
> * A new view toolbar button that displays the current tiddler as a QR 
> code. You can choose from the URL of the tiddler, the raw text, or the 
> rendered text
> * Example forms for generating QR codes for contacts, wifi and generic 
> codes
>
> Once I’d found the library, getting the plugin up and running was 
> surprisingly easy — I had the first operational version within 30 minutes 
> of starting work. A good illustration of the excellent returns on the 
> effort involved in integrating existing JavaScript components.
>
> There’s a full list of changes in the release note, but I’d highlight the 
> following bigger changes:
>
> * Extended search mechanism to require the search string to be a minimum 
> length
> * New Hebrew translation, and preliminary support for RTL languages
> * Improved access to plugin information:
> ** New “Plugins” tab in the “More” sidebar tab, listing all installed 
> plugins
> ** Better display of plugin tiddlers themselves, duplicating the gadget 
> used in control panel
> * Fixed height of preview pane to use a scrollbar when fixed height layout 
> is selected
> * Improved modals and notifications so that global macros are available
> * Extended the SetWidget to allow a single result to be selected from a 
> filtered result list
> * Added new $:/info/url/* information tiddlers providing document 
> location information
> * Added several new filter operators for string encoding/decoding strings 
> according to HTML encoding, URI encoding, regexp escaping and JavaScript 
> string encoding
> * Improved support for bulk loading tiddler files via tiddlywiki.files 
> Files within TiddlyWikiFolders
>
> I’d like to get v5.1.14 released in the next couple of weeks, so any 
> feedback/thoughts/questions are much appreciated at this point.
>
> As ever, thanks to everyone listed in the release note for their 
> contributions to this release.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] TiddlyWikiFolder segregation on Node.js

[jwd]

Thanks Tobias,

Running multiple --server commands on different ports is what I've done to 
a lesser degree so far: one for my general purpose work daylog and another 
for my 'home' collection. I was hoping there was a way to use the 
TiddlyWikiFolder concept as a way to avoid that and provide a middle ground 
between complete integration and complete separation of the work-related 
project tiddler collections.

I will occasionally reference one project's lessons observed in another's 
TiddlyWiki. But permalinks that refer to whatever port I happen to use for 
separate project servers is going to lead to poor URIs.

Guess I will have to roll up my JavaScript sleeves and look at an 
Express.js-based solution.  Thanks for the pointer Arlen!

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[tw] Re: TW Node.js losing Tiddlers randomly - how to debug?

[jwd]

> In the last few days I'm finding that new Tiddlers get saved OK, then when 
> I reopen them to tweak, they're completely or partially lost. Usually the 
> title and tags are OK, but the text is always wiped out.
>

In the Node.js / tiddlywiki --server version individual tiddlers are simply 
individual files, no? I find this is one of the benefits of using the 
tiddlywiki --server version because then I can commit those changes to a 
git repository (my backup method of choice) and let normal file version 
control deal with saving backups, seeing diffs, restoring older versions, 
etc.

One of the motivations for me to switch from the single HTML / TiddlyFox 
saved version to the Node.js --server version was that I started losing 
almost whole HTML files on save. I did not prove, but blamed, overly 
aggressive virus scanning software noticing that a browser was updating the 
filesystem repeatedly; or some other external cause. I got tired of having 
to lose all updates I'd made since I last backed up the HTML file. I have 
not regretted adjusting to the Node.js version once I admitted that my 
requirements exceeded Firefox and TiddlyFox.

>
> Any hints on how to debug?
>

First questions: What OS are you on? Version of Node.js and, of course, 
version of tiddlywiki? Any external software that might account for this?  
Any other browser plugins? Any TiddlyWiki plugins? 

When you say "new Tiddlers get saved OK", how do you know that? Can you 
inspect the actual .tid files in the tiddlers folder and verify that all 
the expected contents actually gets out to disk? 

If you can verify that they are saved in their entirety I would conclude 
that something about re-opening them is failing. I'd start by temporarily 
eliminating all of the TiddlyWiki plugins; then disabling any browser 
plugins. I'd do that, too, if the filesystem verification proved that the 
'saved' tiddlers were not actually saved.

Assuming tiddlers are making it to disk, are you creating backups of 
changed tiddlers? Can you easily restore them? 

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[tw] [TW5] TiddlyWikiFolder segregation on Node.js

[jwd]

Over the years of using TiddlyWiki I have used a single file TW for each of 
a number of work projects - they are my "engineering notebooks" for those 
efforts. Having used the Node.js TW5 server version for a couple of months 
for my general purpose daylog I would like to evolve my usage and have just 
one Projects server; or one general purpose + projects server. My plan 
would be to convert the individual single project files into separate sets 
of tiddlers using tiddlywiki -- load. Ideally I'd like to make each into a 
TiddlyWikiFolder to maintain some ability to separate/organize them.  A 
brute force test sort of does what I want:

mkdir Projects
tiddlywiki Projects --init server
mkdir FirstProject
tiddlywiki FirstProject --init server
tiddlywiki FirstProject --load FirstProject.html
mv FirstProject Projects
mkdir SecondProject
tiddlywiki SecondProject --init server
tiddlywiki SecondProject --load SecondProject.html
mv SecondProject Projects
mkdir ThirdProject
tiddlywiki ThirdProject --init server
tiddlywiki ThirdProject --load ThirdProject.html
mv ThirdProject Projects
edit Projects/tiddlywiki.info and add
"includeWikis": [
"FirstProject",
"SecondProject",
"ThirdProject"
],
tiddlywiki Projects --server 

But I have some questions:

   1. Is there some way from the browser to differentiate which wiki the 
   tiddlers belong to? Ideally I'd like to browse to 
   http://localhost:/FirstProject for FirstProject's content; 
   http://localhost:/SecondProject would have the next, etc. For the 
   server as a whole I can set up a pathprefix; I'd like to be able to do that 
   per TiddlyWikiFolder along with the associated $:/config/tiddlyweb/host 
   tiddler. But those don't seem to be documented options for 
   TiddlyWikiFolder's tiddlywiki.info files.
   
   2. Related, if I have tiddlers with the same title, journal entries for 
   example, can I differentiate/access them? 
   
   3. Is there some way to have a default-tiddler-location associated with 
   each project? I know that seems like a stretch; but perhaps a 
   default-tiddler-location associated with each pathprefix.
   
   4. Alternately, if the separate projects TiddlyWikiFolders is not going 
   to work I suppose I could tag each tiddler to identify which wiki it 
   originally belonged with and sort / present them post-creation by tag if 
   need be. Any suggestions for how to accomplish that initial bulk tagging as 
   I tiddlywiki --load them into separate tiddlers? (Hmm; maybe I need to 
   explore tiddlywiki --setfield.)
   
Or maybe I am missing the intended use case for TiddlyWikiFolders? I don't 
think my JavaScript abilities are up to implementing these so I am hoping 
they align with someone's existing notions of using TW5.

Thanks for you suggestions!
Jonathan

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[tw] Re: NoteStorm 2 for getting newbies hooked on TiddlyWiki

[jwd]

Very nice. It is a wee bit akin to a slide deck-like "TiddlyWiki in 10 
Minutes" I put together to introduce co-workers to TW - but NoteStorm is 
much more polished than what I cobbled together.

A few suggestions:

   - Not all the icons have hover text. Once I was in the example I got a 
   little lost not recalling what the icons meant. Hover text might help the 
   adoption by TW beginners.
   - The 'slide deck-like' think I hacked together included a way to 
   advance from slide to slide (card to card in your analogy) or dive into 
   detailed slides (ala some of the HTML slide shows) by clicking icons I 
   included in each slides' footer. NoteStorm's icon to "access tiddlers 
   related to this one" provides most of this with links to the parent and 
   subtopics; but what is missing are links to the sibling cards at the same 
   level. Any thought about enabling that or some kind of next/previous 
   navigation? Then users could close the sidebar completely and navigate 
   notes from beginning to end.
   - The link in "If you found NoteStormTW helpful and want to give a 
   little back, here is a link to a page that outlines several different ways 
   you can help us out." ends up at a 404 error page for me :-(

Thanks for the effort. I think I'll start with NoteStorm the next time I 
want to introduce TW's possibilities to the uninitiated. 

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[tw] Re: Reduce size of the "recent" list

[jwd]

Like Daniel I got annoyed today by the scroll bar that the default Recent 
sidebar list causes. Maybe I am in the minority but Recent is my default 
Sidebar tab - I tend to create/update tiddlers for a few days and then move 
on. What put me over top was the double scroll bars I get when editing a 
tiddler when I open a tiddler from that Recent list. As PMario suggested I 
ended up modifying both system tiddlers once I found this thread - which 
took several searches.

This approach seems like a burden for the more casual, but equally annoyed, 
user though. And while Tobias' proposed widget seems powerful it sounds 
kind of overwhelming for that same casual user. 

I'd vote for a simple way for users to control the default limit (100 seems 
a bit much) in the Control Panel. Perhaps Tobias' approach could be an 
alternate sidebar tab - one way for TiddlyWiki newbies to create a custom 
table of contents.

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[tw] Glitch importing lists from Classic

[jwd]

I finally began to upgrade from TiddlyWiki Classic (2.8.1) to TiddlyWiki 
5.1.7. I don't use many plugins and was mostly concerned with importing the 
contents of tiddlers - which has gone well so far.

I have encountered a little glitch though: I use lists - a lot. In 
TiddlyWiki 5 it seems that lists require a blank line to precede the first 
list item. In Classic I have generally not bothered with a blank line; I'll 
just start my lists like:
* first item
* second

Instead of like the following which, in Classic, results in a large gap 
between this line and the list:

* first item
* second item

As a result I am having to edit *many* imported tiddlers. Is there a reason 
that TW5 WikiText insists on them? (Markdown compatibility perhaps?) Is 
there a way that upgrading a tiddler from text/x-tiddlywiki to 
text/vnd.tiddlywiki could add those missing blank lines? If they are 
required perhaps the Lists in WikiText help should note that? Am I 
missing something obvious?

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[tw] Re: What Am I Missng?

[jwd]

I've been lurking here occasionally and felt like something is missing too.

 Upgrading existing TiddlyWiki Classic documents to the new version isn't 
recommended yet. 

Ah!  I suggest making this more explicit. Since TW5 is now what one sees on 
tiddlywiki.com users of Classic will likely jump first to the upgrade 
instructions thinking they can upgrade classic tiddlywiki; despite the note 
on the HelloThere tiddler. I know I did.  A note at the begining of the 
Upgrading tiddler that this applies to TW5 upgrades, a caution about 
thinking Classic TW can be upgraded, and perhaps a link to a a tiddler on 
what sorts of massaging existing Classic content will need (personally I 
use few plugins) would go a long way toward preventing disappointment.

Thanks for all the hard work; I've been a TiddlyWiki user since 2006 and 
look forward to the next 25 years.

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