[tw] Re: Very slow TW hogs processor
Mark I'd assumed that plugins couldn't be the problem because it persists when they're all disabled. Am I being naive about how the plugins work? Pseudo Realname I'll take a look at the wizard as you suggest. The quick pasting test I did last night was from Wikipedia. I'd expect some of my pastes to be from MS Word but didn't try that. Firefox would have some advantages in that I can control updates better since it's not our corporate browser standard and the version of HTMLArea that I use works better in FireFox. But, if I share my TWs, I can't be sure which browser will be in place and it'd be great if my TWs were therefore browser agnostic. I'll also remind myself how to post TWs on tiddlyspot to see if I can post one of my rogue TWs. Thanks for your help. Kevin On Feb 13, 7:48 am, Pseudo Realname pseudo.realn...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/2/13 kilucas kevin.lu...@concave.co.uk: - If I attempt to paste into the editing area in FireFox I get the error about unprivileged scripts being unable to access copy, cut and paste for security reasons. I've seen material somewhere on how to fix this on a single PC but it sounds a bit nightmarish if I want to share my TWs. Regarding firefox, maybe that enabling could be incorporated in a plugin. With luck its some line like netscape.security.PrivilegeManager.enablePrivilege(UniversalXPConnect); (that one is from filesaving). That triggers the security-question. You could givehttp://firefoxprivileges.tiddlyspot.com/#[[Firefox%20Privileges%20Wizard]] a try. Save locally, enable everything, try pasting. Can you post a tiddly with that plugins somewhere? And from where do you paste? (i am on ubuntu and have never problems with that. But then i usually paste plain text. Or the plugins try to access the clipboard actively, and forget to ask.) Thanks Kevin- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Very slow TW hogs processor
Dave Thanks for this. I've used your site a lot and had implemented most if not all of your suggestions in these TWs. I'll double-check that all the options are still set as you suggest though. I already know that machine intensive panels aren't on display with the exception of a tag cloud. But that's in my left column and initially displays perfectly well. If I understand correctly, it's not refreshed during normal use of the TWs either - I have to reload the whole TW to make that happen. It only contains 10 or so entries and none of these will account for more than 20 tiddlers. So I'll keep exploring. Thanks Kevin On Feb 12, 12:38 am, Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/; giff...@gmail.com wrote: Kevin Don't know if this will help you or not, but I have a few tips at my tutorial http://www.giffmex.org/twfortherestofus.html#[[Tips%20for%20speeding%20up%20performance%20on%20large%20TiddlyWikis]] Dave --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Does sync do any work during normal TW use
I'm suspicious that sync may be causing my TWs to hog processor especially as some postings here suggest elements of it are more fragile under IE than FireFox and may problems only arise under the former. But I'm not clear whether any sync processing is done during normal viewing and editing of tiddlers or whether it's only done when using the backstage sync menu. If the latter, then presumably sync isn't causing my problems. Can anyone clarify when sync processing takes please please? I understand that actual synchronization only occurs when I tell the TW to do so but I wasn't clear when the status of tiddler synchronization was checked for example. Thanks Kevin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Does sync do any work during normal TW use
Thanks for this. If sync does nothing until invoked from the backstage then I think I'm on the wrong tack and need to look for my problem elsewhere. Thanks very much for this as it'll help me focus on more likely causes. Kevin On Feb 12, 1:11 pm, FND f...@gmx.net wrote: I'm suspicious that sync may be causing my TWs to hog processor At first glance, that seems unlikely - but I will investigate and respond your original post later. I'm not clear whether any sync processing is done during normal viewing and editing of tiddlers or whether it's only done when using the backstage sync menu. Normally, sync should only be triggered on request (i.e. manually by the user, usually via the respective backstage tab). So there is nothing going on in the background - in fact, we're actively trying to discourage any sort of phoning home behavior in TiddlyWiki*. HTH. -- F. * of course there might be valid use cases for plugins doing this - but that's outside the scope of the TiddlyWiki core --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Very slow TW hogs processor
Thanks for all the ideas here - much appreciated. What I've found so far is: - I use ASCIIMathML and the HTMLArea editor which require code in MarkupPostBody and MarkupPreHeader. If I remove this code then the HTMLArea wysiwyg editor is no longer invoked (I presume that means I've removed the code that invokes it successfully) but the slow performance persists. - I also opened an Asciencpad file since that uses a version of HTMLArea and ASCIIMathML too. It performed fine with no adverse effects on the CPU. - bearing in mind that disabling all my plugins doesn't solve the problem either and that my TW's aren't huge (my main test TW is 888K) I'm quite intrigued that I can switch so much off and still tie up the CPU. Those IE6 challenges with slow javascript are starting to look suspicious now although I don't understand why Asciencepad will run OK! - Although I'm no longer suspicious of sync since it does nothing unless invoked manually, I checked the macro error and it merely says Error while executing macro sync: [object error] - I opened a raw TW without any performance problems. I imported all tiddlers from a TW which performs slowly, saved and reloaded. The new TW then performed poorly and tied up the CPU - My main test TW holds approx 160 tiddlers including approx 30 plugins. - My TWs are built from a master which has approx 100 tiddlers including the same 30 plugins. So I must have around 60 content tiddlers. - The ASCIIMathML is displayed (in IE at least) by the MathPlayer. This is uptodate and works on other sites. In practice I don't think it's part of the issue because I'm not actually displaying any maths when the problems begin and its initial splash screen is not displayed even allowing for the poor performance. - Just in case it's significant, I'll note that there's a short period of about a second or two when the TW has opened and displayed the sole default tiddler and when CPU usage drops and mouse responses are normal. Only a second or so later does CPU rise and mouse response takes minutes. - I've yet to find out how to check which hotfixes I have but will do that soon. - I've begun to explore javascript slowness on Google but need to spend more time on that. I'm really hoping that's not the problem because it suggests that my ability to use my TWs is at the whim of hotfixes. I also use my work PC and do not have complete control over what is applied and when. - If I attempt to paste into the editing area in FireFox I get the error about unprivileged scripts being unable to access copy, cut and paste for security reasons. I've seen material somewhere on how to fix this on a single PC but it sounds a bit nightmarish if I want to share my TWs. With all this in mind I'll therefore explore the issues around javascript slowness in ie6 and see what I can learn about my hotfixes. Thanks Kevin On Feb 12, 2:16 pm, Mark S. throa...@yahoo.com wrote: Have you installed any service packs? If you google javascript runs slowly in ie6 you'll find lots of people are having similar problems with IE. There is also a Jscript update from MicroS*ft that is meant to speed things up in some situations. What happens if you start with a clean fresh TW and just add your data tiddlers to it? Does it still run slow? -- Mark On Feb 12, 1:07 am, kilucas kevin.lu...@concave.co.uk wrote: Dave Thanks for this. I've used your site a lot and had implemented most if not all of your suggestions in these TWs. I'll double-check that all the options are still set as you suggest though. I already know that machine intensive panels aren't on display with the exception of a tag cloud. But that's in my left column and initially displays perfectly well. If I understand correctly, it's not refreshed during normal use of the TWs either - I have to reload the whole TW to make that happen. It only contains 10 or so entries and none of these will account for more than 20 tiddlers. So I'll keep exploring. Thanks Kevin On Feb 12, 12:38 am, Dave Gifford -http://www.giffmex.org/; giff...@gmail.com wrote: Kevin Don't know if this will help you or not, but I have a few tips at my tutorial http://www.giffmex.org/twfortherestofus.html#[[Tips%20for%20speeding%20up%20performance%20on%20large%20TiddlyWikis]] Dave- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Very slow TW hogs processor
After working on other projects for approximately two months I've returned to the TWs that I use with IE6 under Windows XP to find they all run very slowly. 2-3 minutes pass before the TWs respond to mouse clicks for example. And IE is reported as using 50% of my processor. This is all quite different from when I last used them so it's not obvious that TW size is an issue. They perform fine under Firefox though. The poor performance under IE6 remains even if I disable all plugins which means I'm having to think a bit hard about where to look for the cause. Performance is fine on a clean, empty TW in IE6 though. My TWs use Bram Chen's HTMLArea which presumably is not disabled when I disable the plugins. But that's not changed since these last worked. I also use ASCIIMathML but the performance is so poor that I haven't even got as far as displaying a tiddler that contains mathematical material. I'm a bit suspicious that my plugins mostly sync to a master TW and, in IE, the sync button throws an apparently common macro error. In Firefox the sync button is available though. The master file is also fully available. I've tried to think through what's changed since I last opened these TWs. Installation of Skype and an upgrade to PersonalBrain v5 come to mind. Automatic Windows updates will have occured but I don't know what they are. Java is fully uptodate. It's not obvious to me that any of these is problematic apart from the scope that Windows update has to change my infrastructure in uncertain ways. I couldn't spot any similar problems in this forum but thought I'd just ask if anyone else has encountered this type of issue while I try to work out where to look for the cause or how to work round it. (Working solely in FireFox doesn't work for me because I need to be able to paste into my TWs and FireFox won't permit that). Thanks Kevin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: CoreTweaks keeps resetting AutoSave
Wolfgang Thanks for checking. I'm not using MPTW in this case though and am continuing to assume, for now at least, that errors in my tagging are the cause of the problem rather than CoreTweaks. And, if I'm right it'll be a relief because I was interested in CoreTweaks for UNC referencing to TWs, and linking to tiddler headings as well as fixing my Missing toddlers list. As far as I can tell these all work fine but the Missing tiddlers depends on being able to tag tiddlers in bulk reliably and I can't get that to work through backstage Tweaks correctly. An earlier attempt did force some tag changes but overwrote some tags too and I suspect this caused problems with AutoSave and with the HTMLArea editor. If I don't change my tags, CoreTweaks looks absolutely fine based on my limited checks and that's why my focus for now, is on getting the right tags in place. Thanks for your idea. Kevin On Nov 23, 11:41 pm, wolfgang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kevin, By any change, are you using MPTW. Because its MptwConfigPlugin tiddler would hard code the auto save on. Regards, W. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: CoreTweaks keeps resetting AutoSave
Wolfgang I haven't checked that so thanks for the tip and I'll take a look. Kevin On Nov 24, 10:28 am, wolfgang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I don't change my tags, CoreTweaks looks absolutely fine based on my limited checks and that's why my focus for now, is on getting the right tags in place. Have you already checked MultiTagEditorPlugin? Though it doesn't works as fast as TiddlerTweakerPlugin, in fact it often freezes the browser for a long time if you add a new tag to many tiddlers at once: http://ido-xp.tiddlyspot.com/#MultiTagEditorPlugin Regards, W. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: CoreTweaks keeps resetting AutoSave
Eric Thanks for this. In my TWs the backstage Tweaks handles TiddlyTweakerPlugin but the backstage Options certainly have the AutoSave option you mention although setting it makes no difference - It's unset afterwards. However, the particular reason for applying CoreTweaks just now is to make the Missing list of tiddlers work and that requires that I tag many tiddlers with excludeMissing. I've attempted to to do this using TiddlerTweakerPlugin but it isn't behaving in the way I understand from the documentation and I'm suspicious that the problem I initially attributed to CoreTweaks was actually caused by disruption to my tags. I've posted a separate query to see if I can understand TiddlerTweakerPlugin better and meanwhile am guessing that my tagging, rather than CoreTweaks, caused my problem. I'll try to remember to post what I learn here. Thanks Kevin On Nov 22, 8:59 pm, Eric Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/22/2008 kilucas wrote: I've just applied CoreTweaks and find that the AutoSave option keeps being set to on whether I set it to off in the right sidebar options or in the backstage options. Go to the backstage, click on tweaks, check to see if the autosave option is checked. If so, uncheck it. Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Using Missing Tiddlers
Wow! I was asking more in hope than expectation. How excellent. I have to apply coretweaks for a variety of reasons and will crack on with that sharpish. Thanks very much indeed. Kevin On Nov 19, 11:56 am, Eric Shulman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: then there is one CoreTweak no. 067 to reduce their number ... This tweak removes content contained between certain delimiters before scanning tiddler source for possible links. http://www.tiddlytools.com/#CoreTweaks Note: the tweak only temporarily 'removes' the errant text content *during* the scan for links processing. There is no change to the actual tiddler content that is stored or rendered. A more accurate phrase would be: This tweak *bypasses* content contained between certain delimiters *while* scanning tiddler source for possible links. enjoy, -e Eric Shulman TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Less than, less than or equal to, etc in ASCIIMathML
The following solution is from David Lippman in the ASCIIMath Google
group:
= doesn't always work because the editor can sometimes mess up
encoding of HTML entities.
To get it to recognize gt or \gt, search the ASCIIMathML.js file for
a
line like:
{input:lt, tag:mo, output:, tex:null, ttype:CONST},
and add a line after it that looks like:
{input:gt, tag:mo, output:, tex:null, ttype:CONST},
-David
On Nov 5, 10:09 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I use a=b in the hope of generating a less than or equal to
symbol in ASCIIMathML within a TiddlyWiki, I see a ;=b. But if I
use a\leb I do indeed see a less than or equal to b symbolically.
But I don't see any reference to \le in the ASCIMathML documentation.
I can also use \lt for less than, \ge for greater than or equal to,
but oddly can't use \gt for greater than; the result is just displayed
as gt.
Does anyone know:
1) why this is happening
2) whether I have to do something special to get ASCIIMathML to
recognise the documented character sequaneces
3) and what symbol system I've stumbled on with the back-slash based
codes
Many thanks
Kevin
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[tw] Bullets in HTMLArea
I'm using standard bullets using the* markup and numbered bullets using the # markup in HTMLArea and wondered if anyone has any clues about how to resolve the following perhaps: 1) Bullets are widely spaced - like paragraph spacing. But in some HTML editors it's possible to have them in adjacent screen lines. Is there a way to tell my bullets to pack closer together? 2) Numbered bullets don't get numbered - they're all set to the number 1 3) If I place some ASCIIMathML is a standard or numbered bullet, the line breaks at that point when the tiddler is displayed. (It doesn't break when I'm initially editing the line but displays in the editor as broken if I return to the editor after displaying the tiddler). How can I place ASCIIMathML in a bullet and have the text remain continuous? (ASCIIMathML is signified by a back single-quote and I wondered if that was causing a problem somehow and if so how to resolve it). Thanks for any clues you migtht have. Kevin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW
David's made the following suggestion:
This is untested so no guarantees, but you can try this: In
AsvgHA.js
(or ASCIIsvgHA.js) drawPics, replace
var sscr = picture.getAttribute(sscr);
if ((sscr != null) (sscr != )) {
try {
if (isIE) {
parseShortScript(sscr);
//names the SVG so it can identify
itself onclick
picture.window.setname(picture.id);
}
} catch (e) {}
}
with
var sscr = picture.getAttribute(sscr);
var src = picture.getAttribute(script);
if ((sscr != null) (sscr != )) {
try {
if (isIE) {
parseShortScript(sscr);
//names the SVG so it can identify
itself onclick
picture.window.setname(picture.id);
}
} catch (e) {}
} else if ((src!=null) (src != )) {
try {
if (isIE) {
with (Math) eval(src);
picture.window.setname(picture.id);
}
} catch(err) {alert(err+\n+src)}
}
Kevin
On Oct 28, 12:18 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I posted some informatiuon about this in the ASCIIMath Google group
where David Lippman and Peter Jipsen, who were both instrumental in
producing the mathematical version of HTMLArea are posting. David got
back to me to suggest there's a bug inASCIIsvgwhich is causing the
problem.
I've copied my posting and his reply here (my apologies if that breaks
any form of etiquette) and will see if I can rectify the problem
myself although I'm not that handy with code and this may defeat me.
Maybe someone better skilled might know how to fix this without too
much effort.
Bram: Presumably it'd be good to incorporate any solution we find into
your package.
Here's my posting, then David's reply:
Kevin
I'm using ASCIIMathML andASCIIsvgwith HTMLArea in TiddlyWiki. The
implementation I have
fromhttp://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=150646package_...
invokes a window (called the Equation Grapher Control Panel) in which
I can specifiy graph parameters to create SVG graphs. But theASCIIsvg
home page suggests I might also be able to form my own drawings by
embedding some material in web pages.
By pasting examples similar those on theASCIIsvghome page into the
raw html viewer of HTMLArea available via a toolbar button I've got
my
browser to recognise that an svg object is to be rendered (the right
mouse menu is appropriate to SVG) but myASCIIsvgcode isn't
generating a drawing.
My latest simple example is the following which amounts to an entire
Tiddlywiki tiddler:
pStart text/pembed src=HTMLArea\Plugins\AsciiSvg\d.svg
script=initPicture(-2,2,-2,2);axes();line([-2,-2],[2,2]); /p /
pEnd text/p
(The instructions on theASCIIsvghome page say that the script
delimiters should be single quotes but the HTMLArea editor converts
them to double quotes even when I manually change them back).
When I display the resultant page I get an empty SVG area surrounded
by my start and end text and sometimes get a dialog box saying only
undefined though it doesn't make clear what is undefined.
When I compare the html here with the html generated by the Equation
Grapher Control Panel wiindow the latter uses an sscr attribute to
specific the graph I think but I can't find out what the sscr element
is. And in any case it doesn't seem to be part of theASCIIsvg
vocabulary as far as I can tell.
I tried the same material in an ASciencePad tiddler but had no
further
success there.
So does anyone here know if I should be able to specify my own
drawings in the TiddlyWiki/HTMLAea environment and if so how I'd
speciify them so that they draw completely please?
David:
The sscr attribute is a short script that is the abbreviated format
used by the Equation Grapher Control Panel.
When I wrote theASCIIsvgplugin for HTMLArea, there were two files
in
addition toASCIIsvg.js: AsvgHA.js (or ASCIIsvgHA.js) and
ASCIIsvgAddon.js. The former is used in the editor window itself;
the
latter is intended to be included in the output.
Looking at it, it appears that I stripped the script attribute
handling out of AsvgHA.js (in the drawPics function). Not sure
exactly why. The handling is still in ASCIIsvgAddon.js, so it should
be possible to add it in to AsvgHA.js.
On 27 Oct, 18:17, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've made limited progress. My browser now recognmises that I'm trying
to display an SVG picture but doesn't actually draw the picture I
intend. Here's what I've done and what I'm
[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW
Here's what I found when I tried this.
I placed the following in a wyswiwyg tiddler within Bram Chen's
HTMLArea using the html view (not the standard editor view):
embed src=HTMLArea/plugins/AsciiSvg/d.svg script=border = 0
initPicture(-10,10)
axes()
stroke = 'red'
p = []
with (Math)
for (t = 0; t 10.01; t += 0.05)
p[p.length] = [t*cos(PI*t), t*sin(PI*t)]
path(p) /
It's code from an example of a drawing at the ASCIISVG home page at
http://www1.chapman.edu/~jipsen/svg/asciisvg.html but modified as
follows:
1) When I save the original raw embed statement, the delimeiters for
the script are changed from single quotes to double quotes and this
throws errors when the script encounters the red attribute. So I
changed the script delimiters to double quotes and the delimiters
within the script itself to single quotes
2) The original example begins embed width=117 height=117
src=d.svg ... The HTMLArea editor strips out the width and height
elements - I don't know why. But I think they're being remembered
because the SVG output seems to be affected by them nonetheless as
mentioned below
3) The original example refers to d.svg in the wrong location for
Bram's HTMLArea and I corrected it.
The result was that I did indeed see the drawing when I switched out
of raw html mode and back to normal viewing within the editor.
Another oddity was that I'd initially used a version of the embed
statement that omitted the height and width statements and the drawing
had been truncated on the right. When I replaced the width and height
statements, the drawing appeared correctly even though html view in
the editor no longer showed the width and height statements.
However, the drawing only appears as an empty SVG area when I view the
tiddler oustide the editor. Hence I'm only halfway to the desired
solution.
If I place the same embed statement in a non-wysiwyg tiddler (so it's
never been touched by HTMLArea) I just see the embed statement when I
view the tiddler.
Overall I'm therefore left wondering:
1) How can I get the drawing displayed when viewing the tiddler? Is
there perhaps an equivalent place in my TW where I need to get the
right code to execute at view time instead of edit time?
2) Can I stop HTMLArea swapping the script delimeters to single
quotes?
3) can I stop HTMLArea removing thew width and height statements?
4) How would I invoke the same drawing from a non-wysiwyg tiddler.
(Maybe the answer to 1 above will help here).
I'll let you know if I learn more but if anyone has any insights that
might help further, please by all means let me know.
Thanks
Kevin
On Nov 2, 8:57 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David's made the following suggestion:
This is untested so no guarantees, but you can try this: In
AsvgHA.js
(or ASCIIsvgHA.js) drawPics, replace
var sscr = picture.getAttribute(sscr);
if ((sscr != null) (sscr != )) {
try {
if (isIE) {
parseShortScript(sscr);
//names the SVG so it can identify
itself onclick
picture.window.setname(picture.id);
}
} catch (e) {}
}
with
var sscr = picture.getAttribute(sscr);
var src = picture.getAttribute(script);
if ((sscr != null) (sscr != )) {
try {
if (isIE) {
parseShortScript(sscr);
//names the SVG so it can identify
itself onclick
picture.window.setname(picture.id);
}
} catch (e) {}
} else if ((src!=null) (src != )) {
try {
if (isIE) {
with (Math) eval(src);
picture.window.setname(picture.id);
}
} catch(err) {alert(err+\n+src)}
}
Kevin
On Oct 28, 12:18 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I posted some informatiuon about this in the ASCIIMath Google group
where David Lippman and Peter Jipsen, who were both instrumental in
producing the mathematical version of HTMLArea are posting. David got
back to me to suggest there's a bug inASCIIsvgwhich is causing the
problem.
I've copied my posting and his reply here (my apologies if that breaks
any form of etiquette) and will see if I can rectify the problem
myself although I'm not that handy with code and this may defeat me.
Maybe someone better skilled might know how to fix this without too
much effort.
Bram: Presumably it'd be good to incorporate any solution we find into
your package.
Here's my posting, then David's reply:
Kevin
I'm using ASCIIMathML andASCIIsvgwith HTMLArea in TiddlyWiki. The
implementation I have
[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW
In a standard (non-wysiwyg tiddler) I get the same output as for a
wysiwyg tiddler when the tiddler is displayed - an empty SVCG pane -
if I surround the embed statement with html and /html which is
needed, I believe, to tell a standard tiddler to behave as a chunk of
html.
In both cases therefore the formost challenge seem to lie in getting
the drawing to draw on the SVG pane. As the drawing is defined by the
script I'm guessing the problem lies in getting the script executed
when a tiddler is displayed as against when it's edited in the
HTMLArea editor which I can now achieve with the modified scripts
above.
Kevin
On Nov 2, 9:19 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's what I found when I tried this.
I placed the following in a wyswiwyg tiddler within Bram Chen's
HTMLArea using the html view (not the standard editor view):
embed src=HTMLArea/plugins/AsciiSvg/d.svg script=border = 0
initPicture(-10,10)
axes()
stroke = 'red'
p = []
with (Math)
for (t = 0; t 10.01; t += 0.05)
p[p.length] = [t*cos(PI*t), t*sin(PI*t)]
path(p) /
It's code from an example of a drawing at the ASCIISVG home page
athttp://www1.chapman.edu/~jipsen/svg/asciisvg.htmlbut modified as
follows:
1) When I save the original raw embed statement, the delimeiters for
the script are changed from single quotes to double quotes and this
throws errors when the script encounters the red attribute. So I
changed the script delimiters to double quotes and the delimiters
within the script itself to single quotes
2) The original example begins embed width=117 height=117
src=d.svg ... The HTMLArea editor strips out the width and height
elements - I don't know why. But I think they're being remembered
because the SVG output seems to be affected by them nonetheless as
mentioned below
3) The original example refers to d.svg in the wrong location for
Bram's HTMLArea and I corrected it.
The result was that I did indeed see the drawing when I switched out
of raw html mode and back to normal viewing within the editor.
Another oddity was that I'd initially used a version of the embed
statement that omitted the height and width statements and the drawing
had been truncated on the right. When I replaced the width and height
statements, the drawing appeared correctly even though html view in
the editor no longer showed the width and height statements.
However, the drawing only appears as an empty SVG area when I view the
tiddler oustide the editor. Hence I'm only halfway to the desired
solution.
If I place the same embed statement in a non-wysiwyg tiddler (so it's
never been touched by HTMLArea) I just see the embed statement when I
view the tiddler.
Overall I'm therefore left wondering:
1) How can I get the drawing displayed when viewing the tiddler? Is
there perhaps an equivalent place in my TW where I need to get the
right code to execute at view time instead of edit time?
2) Can I stop HTMLArea swapping the script delimeters to single
quotes?
3) can I stop HTMLArea removing thew width and height statements?
4) How would I invoke the same drawing from a non-wysiwyg tiddler.
(Maybe the answer to 1 above will help here).
I'll let you know if I learn more but if anyone has any insights that
might help further, please by all means let me know.
Thanks
Kevin
On Nov 2, 8:57 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David's made the following suggestion:
This is untested so no guarantees, but you can try this: In
AsvgHA.js
(or ASCIIsvgHA.js) drawPics, replace
var sscr = picture.getAttribute(sscr);
if ((sscr != null) (sscr != )) {
try {
if (isIE) {
parseShortScript(sscr);
//names the SVG so it can identify
itself onclick
picture.window.setname(picture.id);
}
} catch (e) {}
}
with
var sscr = picture.getAttribute(sscr);
var src = picture.getAttribute(script);
if ((sscr != null) (sscr != )) {
try {
if (isIE) {
parseShortScript(sscr);
//names the SVG so it can identify
itself onclick
picture.window.setname(picture.id);
}
} catch (e) {}
} else if ((src!=null) (src != )) {
try {
if (isIE) {
with (Math) eval(src);
picture.window.setname(picture.id);
}
} catch(err) {alert(err+\n+src)}
}
Kevin
On Oct 28, 12:18 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I posted some informatiuon about this in the ASCIIMath
[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW
I've succeeded in getting drawings to draw correctly when a tiddler is
displayed.
Guessing that ASCIIsvgAddon.js handled display of the drawing when a
tiddler is viewed and knowing it contains a drawpics function that was
almost identical to that in AsvgHA.js, I modified that in the former
as follows:
I changed the following code in drawpics from ...
var sscr = picture.getAttribute(sscr);
if ((sscr != null) (sscr != )) {
try {
parseShortScript(sscr);
} catch (e) {}
}
to ...
//Modified by K Lucas following a related suggestion by David Lippman
var sscr = picture.getAttribute(sscr);
var src = picture.getAttribute(script);
if ((sscr != null) (sscr != )) {
try {
parseShortScript(sscr);
} catch (e) {}
} else if ((src!=null) (src != )) {
try {
if (isIE) {
with (Math) eval(src);
//
picture.window.setname(picture.id);
}
} catch(err) {alert(err+\n+src)}
}
//end of K Lucas modification
Now static drawings appear when tiddlers are viewed and whether or not
they are edited with the standard TW editor or the html view in
HTMLArea.
I'm getting some odd effects in this specific spiral drawing because
the drawing is truncated at the top and bottom in both the html view
within HTMLArea and when the drawing is viewed outside the editor,
regardless of whether the drawing was created in a wysiwyg tiddler or
a standard tiddler. This truncation remains even if I replace the
width and height settings (which I can currently only do reliably in a
non-wysiwyg tiddler because HTMLArea strips these out of the embed
statement).
I also get truncation on the right of the drawing when I first view it
in the wysiwyg view of the HTMLArea editor but not when I look at the
code in html view and then return to wysiwyg view.
But I've created a simpler drawing using the folling and this appears
to display correctly in all circumstances.
embed width=117 height=117 src=HTMLArea/plugins/AsciiSvg/d.svg
script='
initPicture(-2,2)
grid(1,1)
marker = arrow
stroke = red
line([0,0],[1,1])
'
I'm conscious that I haven't tested David's original suggestion fully
or my further implementation of it in ASCIIsvgAddon.js and don't
really know how to do this other than to exercise it through examples.
But this all seems to be a great step forward. Beyond that testing, my
outstanding issues are therefore:
1) Can I stop HTMLArea swapping the script delimeters to single
quotes?
2) Can I stop HTMLArea removing the width and height statements?
3) How can I get the spiral drawing displayed without top and bottom
truncation when viewing the tiddler?
4) how can I get the spiral drawing to display without truncation of
the right-hand side when first viewed within HTMLArea's wysiwyg view
5) Find out whether animated drawings will also work using these
modified .js files.
If anyone has any insights into 1- 4 above I'd be very interested to
hear your ideas. And I'll report back on item 5 when I've tried it.
Many thanks
Kevin
On Nov 2, 9:29 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a standard (non-wysiwyg tiddler) I get the same output as for a
wysiwyg tiddler when the tiddler is displayed - an empty SVCG pane -
if I surround the embed statement with html and /html which is
needed, I believe, to tell a standard tiddler to behave as a chunk of
html.
In both cases therefore the formost challenge seem to lie in getting
the drawing to draw on the SVG pane. As the drawing is defined by the
script I'm guessing the problem lies in getting the script executed
when a tiddler is displayed as against when it's edited in the
HTMLArea editor which I can now achieve with the modified scripts
above.
Kevin
On Nov 2, 9:19 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's what I found when I tried this.
I placed the following in a wyswiwyg tiddler within Bram Chen's
HTMLArea using the html view (not the standard editor view):
embed src=HTMLArea/plugins/AsciiSvg/d.svg script=border = 0
initPicture(-10,10)
axes()
stroke = 'red'
p = []
with (Math)
for (t = 0; t 10.01; t += 0.05)
p[p.length] = [t*cos(PI*t), t*sin(PI*t)]
path(p) /
It's code from an example of a drawing at the ASCIISVG home page
athttp://www1.chapman.edu/~jipsen/svg/asciisvg.htmlbutmodified as
follows:
1) When I save the original raw embed statement, the delimeiters for
the script are changed from single quotes to double quotes and this
throws errors when the script encounters the red attribute. So I
changed the script delimiters to double quotes and the delimiters
within the script itself to single quotes
2) The original example begins embed width=117 height=117
src=d.svg ... The HTMLArea editor
[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW
Just on the truncation of the spiral drawing ...
The top and bottom truncation is fixed if I specifiy the y-axis
minimum and maximum explicitly in initpicture(-10,10,-10,10) rather
than initpicture(-10,10). I don't know why the version of ASCIISVG
that I'm using needs this when the ASCIISVG home page does not.
I still don't understand the right-hand truncation. The drawing
initially appears in HTMLArea as a square with the origin offset to
the right because the x axis runs from -10 to only approximately 3.
The region with x from 3 to 10 is all missing. When I view the tiddler
in html mode and then revert to wysiwyg mode, the full x axis is shown
but on a drawing which is now wider than it is tall, the x-axis
spacing remaining the same as it was originally shown but the drawing
is wider to accomodate the x region from 3 to 10.
Yet, when the tiddler is viewed after editing, the drawing is square
and correctly formed again.
Ultimately I need the drawing correct in view mode and that's working.
But it'd be great to fix the editing mode which is, after all, meant
to be WYSIWYG.
Kevin
On Nov 2, 10:48 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David
I've made significant progress and can now view drawings with partial
success when tiddlers are viewed. Here's the posting I addded to the
TiddlyWiki group that provides the details of what I did alongside
what does and doesn't work now. And, as ever, if you have any insights
into the remaining challenges, it'd be great to hear your views.
I've succeeded in getting drawings to draw correctly when a tiddler is
displayed.
Guessing that ASCIIsvgAddon.js handled display of the drawing when a
tiddler is viewed and knowing it contains a drawpics function that was
almost identical to that in AsvgHA.js, I modified that in the former
as follows:
I changed the following code in drawpics from ...
var sscr = picture.getAttribute(sscr);
if ((sscr != null) (sscr != )) {
try {
parseShortScript(sscr);
} catch (e) {}
}
to ...
//Modified by K Lucas following a related suggestion by David Lippman
var sscr = picture.getAttribute(sscr);
var src = picture.getAttribute(script);
if ((sscr != null) (sscr != )) {
try {
parseShortScript(sscr);
} catch (e) {}
} else if ((src!=null) (src != )) {
try {
if (isIE) {
with (Math) eval(src);
//
picture.window.setname(picture.id);
}
} catch(err) {alert(err+\n+src)}
}
//end of K Lucas modification
Now static drawings appear when tiddlers are viewed and whether or not
they are edited with the standard TW editor or the html view in
HTMLArea.
I'm getting some odd effects in this specific spiral drawing because
the drawing is truncated at the top and bottom in both the html view
within HTMLArea and when the drawing is viewed outside the editor,
regardless of whether the drawing was created in a wysiwyg tiddler or
a standard tiddler. This truncation remains even if I replace the
width and height settings (which I can currently only do reliably in a
non-wysiwyg tiddler because HTMLArea strips these out of the embed
statement).
I also get truncation on the right of the drawing when I first view it
in the wysiwyg view of the HTMLArea editor but not when I look at the
code in html view and then return to wysiwyg view.
But I've created a simpler drawing using the folling and this appears
to display correctly in all circumstances.
embed width=117 height=117 src=HTMLArea/plugins/AsciiSvg/d.svg
script='
initPicture(-2,2)
grid(1,1)
marker = arrow
stroke = red
line([0,0],[1,1])
'
I'm conscious that I haven't tested David's original suggestion fully
or my further implementation of it in ASCIIsvgAddon.js and don't
really know how to do this other than to exercise it through examples.
But this all seems to be a great step forward. Beyond that testing, my
outstanding issues are therefore:
1) Can I stop HTMLArea swapping the script delimeters to single
quotes?
2) Can I stop HTMLArea removing the width and height statements?
3) How can I get the spiral drawing displayed without top and bottom
truncation when viewing the tiddler?
4) how can I get the spiral drawing to display without truncation of
the right-hand side when first viewed within HTMLArea's wysiwyg view
5) Find out whether animated drawings will also work using these
modified .js files.
If anyone has any insights into 1- 4 above I'd be very interested to
hear your ideas. And I'll report back on item 5 when I've tried it.
Many thanks
Kevin
On Nov 2, 10:45 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've succeeded in getting drawings to draw correctly when a tiddler
[tw] Re: Sharing a TW over a local network
FrD I tried TiddlyLockPlugin but found that, although using some TWs all by myself, I was sometimes told I could not effect changes because the TW was locked. I'm guessing that maybe I closed some TWs without saving changes and hence left the TW locked. It's easy enough to unlock the TW - you just delete a lock file - but this isn't something your network users might know and they could find they're locked out of TWs they'd normally expect to be able to change. It may be that a change in user behaviour would avoid the problem but I doubt my users will remember any unintuitive or inconvenient rules if that's what TiddlyLockPlugin really needs. Others in this group might be better placed to clarify the circumstances in which this can occur or how to avoid it. But it's occurred often enough to me that I'm quite wary of using this solution at present. At the very least, might I suggest you implement it in a TW that you'll use a lot and see if you encounter the same problems before deploying it widely. Like you I'd like to deploy in a multi-user environment but haven't yet explored whether there are alternatives to TiddlyLockPlugin or whether I can avoid the inconvenient lock-outs more reliably. Good luck. Kevin On Oct 31, 9:14 pm, FrD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your quick answer. I'll try the TiddlyLockPlugin this week-end FrD On 31 oct, 22:07, wolfgang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi FrD, I mean editing, modifying the TW. When someone is editing, the file is locked or some signal is send to others to prevent them from accessing the file. TiddlyLockPlugin prevents multiple edits at the same time: http://www.minormania.com/tiddlylock/tiddlylock.html#TiddlyLockPlugin W.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW
I posted some informatiuon about this in the ASCIIMath Google group where David Lippman and Peter Jipsen, who were both instrumental in producing the mathematical version of HTMLArea are posting. David got back to me to suggest there's a bug in ASCIIsvg which is causing the problem. I've copied my posting and his reply here (my apologies if that breaks any form of etiquette) and will see if I can rectify the problem myself although I'm not that handy with code and this may defeat me. Maybe someone better skilled might know how to fix this without too much effort. Bram: Presumably it'd be good to incorporate any solution we find into your package. Here's my posting, then David's reply: Kevin I'm using ASCIIMathML and ASCIIsvg with HTMLArea in TiddlyWiki. The implementation I have from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=150646package_... invokes a window (called the Equation Grapher Control Panel) in which I can specifiy graph parameters to create SVG graphs. But the ASCIIsvg home page suggests I might also be able to form my own drawings by embedding some material in web pages. By pasting examples similar those on the ASCIIsvg home page into the raw html viewer of HTMLArea available via a toolbar button I've got my browser to recognise that an svg object is to be rendered (the right mouse menu is appropriate to SVG) but my ASCIIsvg code isn't generating a drawing. My latest simple example is the following which amounts to an entire Tiddlywiki tiddler: pStart text/pembed src=HTMLArea\Plugins\AsciiSvg\d.svg script=initPicture(-2,2,-2,2);axes();line([-2,-2],[2,2]); /p / pEnd text/p (The instructions on the ASCIIsvg home page say that the script delimiters should be single quotes but the HTMLArea editor converts them to double quotes even when I manually change them back). When I display the resultant page I get an empty SVG area surrounded by my start and end text and sometimes get a dialog box saying only undefined though it doesn't make clear what is undefined. When I compare the html here with the html generated by the Equation Grapher Control Panel wiindow the latter uses an sscr attribute to specific the graph I think but I can't find out what the sscr element is. And in any case it doesn't seem to be part of the ASCIIsvg vocabulary as far as I can tell. I tried the same material in an ASciencePad tiddler but had no further success there. So does anyone here know if I should be able to specify my own drawings in the TiddlyWiki/HTMLAea environment and if so how I'd speciify them so that they draw completely please? David: The sscr attribute is a short script that is the abbreviated format used by the Equation Grapher Control Panel. When I wrote the ASCIIsvg plugin for HTMLArea, there were two files in addition to ASCIIsvg.js: AsvgHA.js (or ASCIIsvgHA.js) and ASCIIsvgAddon.js. The former is used in the editor window itself; the latter is intended to be included in the output. Looking at it, it appears that I stripped the script attribute handling out of AsvgHA.js (in the drawPics function). Not sure exactly why. The handling is still in ASCIIsvgAddon.js, so it should be possible to add it in to AsvgHA.js. On 27 Oct, 18:17, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've made limited progress. My browser now recognmises that I'm trying to display an SVG picture but doesn't actually draw the picture I intend. Here's what I've done and what I'm thinking of trying next. I've inserted the embed statement while editing the html (an option provided by the HTMLArea editor). This seems to recognise the sign much better than when I placed the embed statement in the wysiwyg editor itself. (A look at the genereated html for the whole TW when the tiddler was on display showed embed .. preceded by lt when I pasted the embed statement into the wysiwyg part of the editor rather than lt which was generated by the ASCIISvg grapher. Once I set HTMLArea to show me the html and pasted the embed statement there, I could no longer see that part of the statement when viewing the tiddler instead of seeing all the code I'd pasted in. Guessing this meant that the embed statement was being acted upon instead of merely redisplayed as code, this seemed to be a little progress. I now also see an area in the displayed tiddler which my browser clearly thinks is an SVG area because a right click in IE6 offers SVG menu options. The recomended code at the ASCIISvg web site includes a reference to a file called d.svg. In HTMLArea this is located at HTMLArea\plugins \AsciiSvg\d.svg so I edited the HTML to reflect this longer relative path. This made no practical difference that I can see so I'm simply guessing it's correct. I had a further problem with the raw html editor within HTMLArea. It seems to change the script delimiters from the single quotes that I pasted in to double quotes. As I was initially trialling an ASCIISvg script
[tw] Ad hoc image borders
Can I add a border to one-off images via TW markup pleae? I've seen some postings about changing my stylesheet to apply borders to all images but I'm not quite so clear whether I can add them on an ad hoc basis. Many thanks Kevin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Using Tiddler Sections
Bram Thanks for this. Do we know roughly when that'll be available perhaps? Thanks Kevin On Oct 27, 4:29 pm, BramChen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin It will be fixed in next release of AsciiMath package. On 10月26日, 上午8時48分, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've mostly got CoreTweaks to manage links to tiddler headings and thought I'd try links to sections. I placed the following in a tiddler called Triangle: /% !Lastproof !end Lastproof %/ but both Lastproof and end Lastproof are displayed in the tiddler as headings. The first /% is not displayed but the final %/ is displayed like a normal row. I'm using Bram Chen'sHTMLAreaas my editor so do you think this explains why the section name is visible perhaps? Thanks Kevin On Oct 22, 10:31 am, Michael.Tarnowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric, the new release of your core tweaks solved my problem interpretation for external links. With the first release I did, what Ty suggested: specifiying a nice name in the link, like [[CustomName| SomeTiddler##Section1]] - this was interpreted as external link. Thus, no interference with other plugins. Now everythinks works great! --- Terrific work, well done, Eric! HAve a nice day. Michael On Oct 21, 6:16 pm, FND [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As noted in CoreTweak #784, I have already created an open ticket for this enhancement Oh wow, I had actually seen that in the Trac timeline a few days ago - not sure why I didn't remember it now... My apologies. -- F.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: StyleSheetShortcuts and justification
Thanks for this. It works fine when the text elements are short and
there's room for them all on the line. The left element seemed to
dominate the available space when there were length conflicts so I
need to think through whether that would occur much in the situations
I envisage. But if so, my use of multiple justifications on a single
line would probably be inappropriate anyway.
Many thanks indeed.
Kevin
On Oct 26, 2:22 am, Eric Shulman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Left text.{{center{Middle text}}}{{right{Right text}}}
Although Middle text is centre-justified and Right text is right-
justified, Middle text appears on the line below Left text and
Right text appears yet another line below.
Is there a way to have all three chunks of text appear on the same
line perhaps?
Try this:
{{center{{{floatleft{left text}}}{{floatright{right text}}}middle
text}}}
enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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[tw] Image and table dialogs in HTMLArea
I've been using HTMLArea from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=150646package_id=169974release_id=599120. While most of the toobar buttons work as they should in Firefox(unlike IE), the buttons for insertion of tables and images generate dialog boxes into which I can type no text. Dropdown boxes work within the dialogs, but that's all. Is there something I need to do to Firefox or to HTMLArea to enable these dialog boxes fully perhaps? The text fields in the dialog boxes work fine in IE6 but the fact that the rest of the buttons do not means I've not yet found a browser in which I can get all of HTMLArea to work at present. Thanks for any pointers you might have. Kevin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Creating linked tiddlers pre-tagged
My primary content tiddlers are tagged with wysiwyg to force them to
open in the HTMLArea editor available at
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=150646package_id=169974release_id=599120.
Courtesy of contributors to this group, I now know how to create a new
tiddler from the right menu bar so that it's tagged wysiwyg and
opens first time in the HTMLArea editor. But sometimes I want to
create a tiddler from the name of a non-existent tiddler that is
quoted within [[ ]] brackets inside another tiddler.
Is there a way to tell my TW that a tiddler created by clicking on the
name of a non-existent tiddler should be tagged as wysiwyg and
should open in the HTMLArea editor first time please?
In case it helps, I currently create new wysiwyg tiddlers from the
right sidebar with a button created with:
tiddler htmlareaPluginAddon with:new wysiwyg Create a tiddler
tagged with 'wysiwyg'
htmlareaPluginAddon contains:
tiddler _dummy with: {{
window._newWysiwyg = function(title){
var tiddler = new Tiddler(title);
tiddler.tags.push('wysiwyg');
tiddler.modifier = config.options.txtUserName;
store.addTiddler(tiddler);
story.displayTiddler(null,title,DEFAULT_EDIT_TEMPLATE);
return false;
}
}}htmla class=button href=javascript:; title=$2
onClick=_newWysiwyg.call(this,'$1')$1/a/html
Many thanks
Kevin
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[tw] Re: UNC Path Problem - Resolution
Ah, yes, I misinterpreted this. I'd also read It is hoped that some of these tweaks may be incorporated into later versions of the TW core and saw that the core version to which it applied was 2.2.0. So I assumed that these tweaks would be present in 2.4.1. I'll go back and follow the instructions this time! Thanks for the clarification. Kevin On Oct 20, 10:04 am, wolfgang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We'll look into this and hopefully provide a fix for the core. I've opened a ticket:http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/ticket/749 I've updated TiddlyTools CoreTweaks to automatically make this change to the window.ieCreatePath() function. (see tweak for ticket #749) To add this tweak to your documents, install the latest update from here: http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#CoreTweaks I too am having this problem even with a 2.4.1 core and the CoreTweaks imply that the necessary change has already been made in 2.4.1. It still seems odd that this problem persists in 2.4.1. You must have misread, CoreTweaks only writes: Note: the changes contained in this tiddler are generally applicable for the current version of TiddlyWiki (2.4.1). - so they are still applicable and not obsolete at all. I would recommend just to install CoreTweaks #749. W. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Bram Chen's HTMLArea
No need to apologise - I'm just grateful for the tool and that the
langauge change is so straightforward.
I'll be interested to see if this also fixes the strange jumping of
the cursor to the bottom of the editing area when I apply formatting
changes like heading styles or bold.
Many thanks
Kevin
On Oct 20, 3:21 am, BramChen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You could manually modify the MarkupPreHead as:
!--{{{--
script type=text/javascript
_editor_url = HTMLArea/;
_editor_lang = en;
/script
!--}}}--
Where the *_editor_lang* should be assigned to en but not zh-Hant
in AsciiMath-2.4.1.en.html.
Sorry, the mistake was the result of an oversight.
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On 10月20日, 上午8時59分, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bram
As I use more parts of HTMLArea including those which throw up dialog
boxes from buttons on the toolbar, I find that many of them are
labelled with symbols that my PC won't display. Even what are
presumably OK and Cancel buttons on the hyperlink dialog just display
as hollow squares.
Am I somehow picking up labels that aren't in English and if so should
I have made some configuration or file selection somewhere to see
English labels perhaps?
Many thanks for any guidance you have.
Kevin
On Oct 9, 11:35 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bram
Thanks for this - I'm looking forward to trying it shortly.
By the way, I noticed that some of the tooltips on the editor buttons
show up on my PC as a series of hollow squares. Is this likely to be
an issue with different langauge sets perhaps?
Thanks very much for your help.
Kevin
On Oct 8, 4:08 am, BramChen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Kevin and Eleanor,
I'd corrected the typos about 'wysywg' and change the default lang
setting ofHTMLAreaeditor to 'en' in AsciiMath-2.4.1.en.html.
Please downloaded AsciiMath-2.4.1.081008.zip from
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=150646package_...
You could also customize the tags to enable and/or disable the wysiwyg
editor by changing the arrays' elements of
'config.macros.edit.enableWYSIWYGtags' and/or
'config.macros.edit.disableWYSIWYGtags', for example, to create a
tiddler tagged with systemConfig and add contents as below,
config.macros.edit.enableWYSIWYGtags = ['wysiwyg','SomeOtherTag'];
config.macros.edit.disableWYSIWYGtags =
['systemConfig','systemTiddler'];
then save changes and reload pages.
Cheers,
Bram Chen
On 10月8日, 上午1時31分, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow - it's excellent to see this in an uptodate TW. Thanks very much
indeed.
The only initial glitch I had was that I didn't realise I had to give
a tag of wyswyg to any tiddler to be edited withHTMLAreaand that I
initially assumed this would be wysiwyg. But I can live with that
just to see those formulae and to have a mathematical core I can build
on.
Given that, yet again, I didn't win the Physics Nobel prize announced
today your TW has still made my day!! Maybe I get to win it next year
off my reinvigorated use of TW!
Thank you very much.
Kevin
On Oct 7, 6:09 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ah, excellent. I will. Thanks
Kevin
On Oct 7, 10:12 am, BramChen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry Kevin,
I forgot to pack core .js file with AsciiMath-2.4.1.080902.zip.
Download the new one, named AsciiMath-2.4.1.081007.zip, please.
Bram
On 10月7日, 上午3時45分, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Very helpful all.
I'll experiment with this further very shortly but can I just
check;
should I be able to open AsciiMath-2.4.1.en.html and
seeHTMLAreain
action? When I try to open it Internet Explorer 6 and Firefox
show a
blank screen.
I've unzipped everything, preserving folder structures, and just
attempted to open this file as it appeared there alongside ther
HTMLAreafolder.
Thanks
Kevin
On Oct 6, 9:19 am, BramChen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The AsciiMath-2.4.1.080902.zip is now based on TW 2.4.1, it
could be
downloaded from
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=150646package_...
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[tw] Re: Bram Chen's HTMLArea
That did indeed nail the language by the look of it. Many thanks
indeed.
The formatting tools still misbehave but I've noted that in a separate
thread so I'll post more information as I have it there.
I'll try the suggested solutions to creating a wysiwyg-tagged tiddler
first though in case the problem is caused by creating a non-wysiwyg
tiddler first and then converting it. (I think ASciencePad first edits
its tiddlers in HTMLArea without prior creation by the standard editor
and its formatting tools appear to work correctly).
Thanks
Kevin
On Oct 20, 7:53 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No need to apologise - I'm just grateful for the tool and that the
langauge change is so straightforward.
I'll be interested to see if this also fixes the strange jumping of
the cursor to the bottom of the editing area when I apply formatting
changes like heading styles or bold.
Many thanks
Kevin
On Oct 20, 3:21 am, BramChen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You could manually modify the MarkupPreHead as:
!--{{{--
script type=text/javascript
_editor_url = HTMLArea/;
_editor_lang = en;
/script
!--}}}--
Where the *_editor_lang* should be assigned to en but not zh-Hant
in AsciiMath-2.4.1.en.html.
Sorry, the mistake was the result of an oversight.
--
Bram
On 10月20日, 上午8時59分, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bram
As I use more parts of HTMLArea including those which throw up dialog
boxes from buttons on the toolbar, I find that many of them are
labelled with symbols that my PC won't display. Even what are
presumably OK and Cancel buttons on the hyperlink dialog just display
as hollow squares.
Am I somehow picking up labels that aren't in English and if so should
I have made some configuration or file selection somewhere to see
English labels perhaps?
Many thanks for any guidance you have.
Kevin
On Oct 9, 11:35 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bram
Thanks for this - I'm looking forward to trying it shortly.
By the way, I noticed that some of the tooltips on the editor buttons
show up on my PC as a series of hollow squares. Is this likely to be
an issue with different langauge sets perhaps?
Thanks very much for your help.
Kevin
On Oct 8, 4:08 am, BramChen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Kevin and Eleanor,
I'd corrected the typos about 'wysywg' and change the default lang
setting ofHTMLAreaeditor to 'en' in AsciiMath-2.4.1.en.html.
Please downloaded AsciiMath-2.4.1.081008.zip from
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=150646package_...
You could also customize the tags to enable and/or disable the wysiwyg
editor by changing the arrays' elements of
'config.macros.edit.enableWYSIWYGtags' and/or
'config.macros.edit.disableWYSIWYGtags', for example, to create a
tiddler tagged with systemConfig and add contents as below,
config.macros.edit.enableWYSIWYGtags = ['wysiwyg','SomeOtherTag'];
config.macros.edit.disableWYSIWYGtags =
['systemConfig','systemTiddler'];
then save changes and reload pages.
Cheers,
Bram Chen
On 10月8日, 上午1時31分, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow - it's excellent to see this in an uptodate TW. Thanks very much
indeed.
The only initial glitch I had was that I didn't realise I had to
give
a tag of wyswyg to any tiddler to be edited withHTMLAreaand that I
initially assumed this would be wysiwyg. But I can live with that
just to see those formulae and to have a mathematical core I can
build
on.
Given that, yet again, I didn't win the Physics Nobel prize
announced
today your TW has still made my day!! Maybe I get to win it next
year
off my reinvigorated use of TW!
Thank you very much.
Kevin
On Oct 7, 6:09 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ah, excellent. I will. Thanks
Kevin
On Oct 7, 10:12 am, BramChen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry Kevin,
I forgot to pack core .js file with AsciiMath-2.4.1.080902.zip.
Download the new one, named AsciiMath-2.4.1.081007.zip, please.
Bram
On 10月7日, 上午3時45分, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Very helpful all.
I'll experiment with this further very shortly but can I just
check;
should I be able to open AsciiMath-2.4.1.en.html and
seeHTMLAreain
action? When I try to open it Internet Explorer 6 and Firefox
show a
blank screen.
I've unzipped everything, preserving folder structures, and
just
attempted to open this file as it appeared there alongside
ther
HTMLAreafolder.
Thanks
Kevin
On Oct 6, 9:19 am, BramChen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The AsciiMath-2.4.1.080902.zip is now based
[tw] Re: Opening a new tiddler in HTMLArea
Wolfgang
If I use newSavedTiddler label:'new wysiwyg' tag:'wysiwyg' then a
dialog box is offered for me to enter the new tiddler name but, on
clicking OK, no tiddler is presented for me to edit. Although I typed
a tiddler name into the box, no tiddler of that name is found by
search or goto either.
I tried including a title in the statement and that was repeated in
the text of the prompt box but it still behaved as before, accepting
an alterantive tiddler name but showing no subsequent tiddler.
Have I missed something important out of the statement perhaps?
Thanks
Kevin
On Oct 20, 9:36 am, wolfgang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
usage of this scipt:
tiddler htmlareaPluginAddon with:new wysiwyg Create a tiddler
tagged with 'wysiwyg'
(where the first one parameter is the button label, and the second is
tooltip)
The NewSavedTiddler macro works as the regular NewTiddler macro. You
simply can add label, tooltip text, tags, the content of a template
tiddler ...
(also see:http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/NewTiddler_%28macro%29for all
possible parameters).
An example from Monkeygtd:
newSavedTiddler title:'new Tickler' label:'+ tickler' tag:{{'Tickler
Once [['+config.macros.mgtdList.getRealm()+']]'}}
In your case you could simply write:
newSavedTiddler label:'new wysiwyg' tag:'wysiwyg'
Regards,
W.
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[tw] Re: Opening a TW just once from multiple hyperlinks
Thanks, I'll take a look. I'm conscious that sometimes when I click on hyperlinks online, my browser opens a new window (or tab in IE7), sometimes it changes the content of another browser window that's already open, and sometimes it opens the new content in the window in which I've just clicked. I've no idea how my browser decides which to do but would love the option of using an existing second window so that I only have one copy of the second TW open. Thanks Kevin On Oct 18, 12:46 pm, FND [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there a way to have TW A only open a single window for TW B Well, Saq has recently created a Firefox extension to prevent the same page from being opened twice: htttp://fnd.lewcid.org/tmp/noduplicatetabs.xpi It's never been officially announced though, and is still considered an early beta - however, I've happily been using it for quite a while now. Also, I'm not sure whether that XPI there is actually the latest version (0.21). change the displayed tiddler in that window to reflect the latest clicked hyperlink? I don't think remote-controlling browser tabs/windows is easily possible. -- F. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Invoking MoveTiddlerToTopPlugin
Ah, thanks. I had indeed misunderstood what it did. Thanks Kevin On Oct 7, 9:33 pm, Eric Shulman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 7, 1:18 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How is MoveTiddlerToTopPlugin typically implemented please? I can see documentation about the macro but not where I might invoke the macro. I'd wondered if I should place it on the tiddler toolbar but the macro call doesn't have the same form as the definitions in my ToolbarCommands macro so I don't know how to add it. And maybe it's typically invoked from somewhere else anyway. http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#MoveTiddlerToTop is not a plugin... it is an inline script, and requires installation of http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#InlineJavascriptPlugin For a brief overview of the differences between script and plugins, please see: http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#FAQ_ScriptsAndPlugins As noted in the MoveTiddlerToTop documentation (view the script source to see it), the usage is to 'transclude' the script into any tiddler that you want to have displayed at the top, like this: tiddler MoveTiddlerToTop Note that this script does *not* provide a 'command link' for you to click on. Rather, the script will be invoked each time the tiddler in which it has been transcluded is rendered, automatically moving that tiddler to the top of the story column. -e Eric Shulman TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW
Interesting. I tried the embed etc material in Firefox too but still only saw the script. That's almost a relief anyway because my Firefox objectes to pasting into a tiddler because of security problem that I haven't been able to fix yet, but pasting example SVG code is much faster and less error prone than retyping it by hand. I tried placing d.svg adjacent to the TW and even an extra copy of the original ASCIIsvg.js there although the header markup wouldn't have known about the latter and neither made any difference. It's such a shame because the drawing facilities are so useful as well as the graphing facilities. And, presuming that the graphing facilities invoke the drawing facilities anyway, I feel drawing by providing the ASCIIsvg code must somehow be possible. For now I'm using a separate web page to draw my images and am using SnagIt to take a screenshot of the drawing which I then place in the tiddler as an image. This admittedly has the advantage that it can be viewed by anyone with IE but without the SVGViewer but my pages typically include mathematical notation via ASCIIMathML so they need the MathPlayer anyway. AQnd I couldn't reasonably expect any other user of my TW's to do this. And I can't render dynamic images using screenshots as I could theoretically with ASCIIsvg. So I'll keep thinking about this to see if I can find some way to get ASCIIsvg code invoked. And I didn't realise there's a plugin to store images in TWs - I'm holding mine in an Images folder alongside but this reduces portability I feel. So I'll explore that too - thanks for the tip. Kevin On Oct 19, 1:01 pm, okido [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kevin, I had the same problems with IE and ACIIsvg and I abandoned graphics for that reason. However there is still a concept that I would like to try and that I used long time ago when I was still working on my CP/m system. At that time I constructed graphs directly in video memory, this worked fine. Something similar could be done by dynamically altering an image that is stored in a tiddler. There is a plugin for storing images in tiddlers available. At least this would solve IE problems I think. Maybe there are some programmers out there how would like to pick up this concept. Have a nice day, Okido On 17 Oct, 20:32, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okido Thanks for this. I'd forgotten about this source but found a similar one called CTY's Math TiddlyWiki athttp://www.jostylr.com/deli.html last night, so thanks for the reminder. They both use ASCIIsvg stand alone from the enhanced HTMLArea of Peter Jipsen and Bram Chen which I'm hoping to use and I'm guessing that I might confuse my TW if it includes two versions of ASCIIsvg for now. Paolo's examples solely use script to generate graphs or other drawings which is exactly my aim, but in addition to the graphing front end that Bram mentions above and which works in my TWs. They just seem to embed the code in a standard tiddler surrounded by html tags and it'd be great if I could do that in HTMLArea but my experiemnts have all failed and I just see the code. CTY's surrounded the code with two backticks but that might also complicate my copy of HTMLArea which uses a single backtick to surround ASCIIMathML markup (as does Paolo's I think). Lastly, both copies throw object errors when I try to display the sample graphs and drawings in IE6 but then Paolo warns it's not tested for IE. A quick trial at the link you posted worked fine in Firefox. I haven't stteled on my likely browser yet though I'd prefer IE because that's the native browser on my target PCs. Both throw inconvenient security messages that I've still not got rid of entirely and Firefox objects to pasting html without a complicated-looking change to the browser environment which I'd have to do on each PC - not very appealing. So there's a lot left to settle but if I could just invoke ASCIIsvg via code in addition to the graphing front end, all in HTMLArea in at least one browser, that'd be a great step forward. And if I can't, I may fall back to your option with FireFox. So thanks for the clues. Kevin On Oct 17, 5:01 pm, okido [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kilucas, I made some graphs with little effort. See the TW of Paulo Soares athttp://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~psoares/addons.html This will certainly help you further. Have a nice day, Okido On 17 Oct, 09:43, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bram Thanks for this and this parameter screen generates fine when I use the trigger button on the HTMLArea toolbar. But I think it is only useful for graphs. If I want to draw say a trigonometric diagram such as that athttp://math.chapman.edu/cgi-bin/math.pl?Sum_of_angles_cos_formula then I believe I need access to all the ASCIIsvg commands direcatly and hence would like to know how to embed them in a tiddler. Do you think
[tw] Re: Invoking MoveTiddlerToTopPlugin
I do indeed have this plugin and like the sound of the upgrade so will try it out. Thanks Kevin On Oct 19, 3:18 pm, Eric Shulman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a previous message, I wrote: Note that this script does *not* provide a 'command link' for you to click on. Although the MoveTiddlerToTop inline script is invoked automatically, I can also see where having a manually-invoked command to could be useful. However, rather than creating new toolbar commands for move to top (and move to bottom), I've added these functions to [[RearrangeTiddlersPlugin]], where they can be accessed in a popup by clicking on a tiddler's title... With this plugin installed, you can now either grab a tiddler by it's title and drag it up/down in the story column, OR click the tiddler title and select the move to top or move to bottom command from the resulting popup. Get the update (v2.0.0) here: http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#RearrangeTiddlersPlugin enjoy, -e Eric Shulman TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Opening a new tiddler in HTMLArea
Wolfgang This idea sounds better to me than my current arrangement where a tiddler of the right tag is opened but in the wrong editor. I have to exit the editor and re-enter whereas your solution it least reduces the number of steps. I've imported the plugin but admit I haven't a clue what to do with it as I couldn't find any documentation or comments on how to use it. It shows up in my plugins but neither my search, Goto, or tiddler list finds it. Do you know how I'd use it in my TW perhaps? Given your description, the idealfor me is to have a button below the standard new tiddler button in the rightsidebar. Many thanks for any clues you might have. Kevin On Oct 20, 12:37 am, wolfgang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kevin, Is there some other way that I can open a new tiddler, tagged with wysiwyg and that opens first time in the HTMLArea editor perhaps? You could use NewSavedTiddlerPlugin, which creates new tiddlers but they're opened in view mode, and would need only one additional 'Edit' click to have them opened with HtmlArea editor: http://monkeygtd.tiddlyspot.com/demo3.html#NewSavedTiddlerPlugin Regards, W. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: UNC Path Problem - Resolution
Wolfgang Thanks for the feedback. Presumably this means I can't inspect the code for the fix via a tiddler (though presumably I could dump the source and inspect that) but I could still apply the fix via the custom plugin. Does that mean that I just dump all the code above into a tiddler and tag it with systemConfig? I'm not at all clear whether there'd be additional code I'd need to precede it with or end the tiddler with, never having created a plugin other than by importing. And feel free to warn me off if this approach is complex - I'm not very technical and am only looking to see if there's a simple solution within my reach, rather than a complex solution that demands a lot more time in the TW documentation and forums. It still seems odd that this problem persists in 2.4.1. I'll also see what happens if I map a drive letter to the UNC path. Meanwhile many thanks for your guidance as ever. Kevin On Oct 19, 11:39 pm, wolfgang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kevin, warning to leave the core alone and modify a plugin instead, I wasn't sure where this specific core function exists and hence which shadow tiddler to check and modify if necessary. Which would it be please? core function all exists in the TW file itself and you could see and edit them - which is warned of - if you open your TW not in a browser - but in an editor. There are no core functions in shadowed tiddlers. Regards, W. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Bram Chen's HTMLArea
Bram As I use more parts of HTMLArea including those which throw up dialog boxes from buttons on the toolbar, I find that many of them are labelled with symbols that my PC won't display. Even what are presumably OK and Cancel buttons on the hyperlink dialog just display as hollow squares. Am I somehow picking up labels that aren't in English and if so should I have made some configuration or file selection somewhere to see English labels perhaps? Many thanks for any guidance you have. Kevin On Oct 9, 11:35 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bram Thanks for this - I'm looking forward to trying it shortly. By the way, I noticed that some of the tooltips on the editor buttons show up on my PC as a series of hollow squares. Is this likely to be an issue with different langauge sets perhaps? Thanks very much for your help. Kevin On Oct 8, 4:08 am, BramChen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Kevin and Eleanor, I'd corrected the typos about 'wysywg' and change the default lang setting ofHTMLAreaeditor to 'en' in AsciiMath-2.4.1.en.html. Please downloaded AsciiMath-2.4.1.081008.zip from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=150646package_... You could also customize the tags to enable and/or disable the wysiwyg editor by changing the arrays' elements of 'config.macros.edit.enableWYSIWYGtags' and/or 'config.macros.edit.disableWYSIWYGtags', for example, to create a tiddler tagged with systemConfig and add contents as below, config.macros.edit.enableWYSIWYGtags = ['wysiwyg','SomeOtherTag']; config.macros.edit.disableWYSIWYGtags = ['systemConfig','systemTiddler']; then save changes and reload pages. Cheers, Bram Chen On 10月8日, 上午1時31分, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow - it's excellent to see this in an uptodate TW. Thanks very much indeed. The only initial glitch I had was that I didn't realise I had to give a tag of wyswyg to any tiddler to be edited withHTMLAreaand that I initially assumed this would be wysiwyg. But I can live with that just to see those formulae and to have a mathematical core I can build on. Given that, yet again, I didn't win the Physics Nobel prize announced today your TW has still made my day!! Maybe I get to win it next year off my reinvigorated use of TW! Thank you very much. Kevin On Oct 7, 6:09 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, excellent. I will. Thanks Kevin On Oct 7, 10:12 am, BramChen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry Kevin, I forgot to pack core .js file with AsciiMath-2.4.1.080902.zip. Download the new one, named AsciiMath-2.4.1.081007.zip, please. Bram On 10月7日, 上午3時45分, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very helpful all. I'll experiment with this further very shortly but can I just check; should I be able to open AsciiMath-2.4.1.en.html and seeHTMLAreain action? When I try to open it Internet Explorer 6 and Firefox show a blank screen. I've unzipped everything, preserving folder structures, and just attempted to open this file as it appeared there alongside ther HTMLAreafolder. Thanks Kevin On Oct 6, 9:19 am, BramChen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The AsciiMath-2.4.1.080902.zip is now based on TW 2.4.1, it could be downloaded from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=150646package_... -- Bram On 10月6日, 下午2時58分, wolfgang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://garr.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/ptw/http://garr.dl.sourcef... W.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW
Bram Thanks for this and this parameter screen generates fine when I use the trigger button on the HTMLArea toolbar. But I think it is only useful for graphs. If I want to draw say a trigonometric diagram such as that at http://math.chapman.edu/cgi-bin/math.pl?Sum_of_angles_cos_formula then I believe I need access to all the ASCIIsvg commands direcatly and hence would like to know how to embed them in a tiddler. Do you think this is possible perhaps? Thanks Kevin On Oct 17, 5:27 am, BramChen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kevin, The attachment might be a solution for you if I understand you correctly. -- Bram Chen ParametricSpiral.png 37KViewDownload --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Denoting footnotes with ¬
I ended up using the British pound sign three times since all my uses are UK and I've not spotted any plugins that use it. It works in standard tiddlers and those edited with HTMLArea. I tried the ¬ character but the TW wouldn't even load completely. I don't know why. I tried some multi-character combinations but my early choices were problematic. For example, anyuthing containing the @ symbol is recognised by HTMLArea as a likely email address component! But the British pouind £ (not the US pound #) works fine for me. Many thanks Kevin On Oct 11, 11:23 am, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hadn't thought of a multi-character combinations partty because my original problem was caused by the single character that's important to the Mathematical version of HTMLArea. I'd been checking whether this ¬ character was on all the keyboards I could spot - I'm based in the UK - but managed to spot a US keyboard, albeit a laptop, and you're right that I can't easily spot the character there. In practice my usages probably would be entirely UK, but better to build something flexible if I can. So I'll give multi-standard-character some thought. Many thanks Kevin On Oct 11, 9:19 am, Chris W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kilucas wrote: I need to find an alternative character to the backward single quote to use in a modified version of FootnotePlugin and cannot think of many characters that my TW + plugins don't already use. I haven't yet spotted a use for the ¬ character which, on my keyboard is SHIFT +backward single quote. If I search the various help sites for this I either get nothing or everything. So can anyone spot whether this character will conflict with any other TW facilities or plugins perhaps? That keyboard combination here (US English keyboard) would be a tilde (~, 0x7e) character. The ¬ character (Unicode 0x00ac, UTF8 0xc2,0xac) may not be typeable on many machines but should display just fine. Really depends on the use. Perhaps a multiple char combination? Regards, Chris W- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Opening a new tiddler in HTMLArea
Bram Chen's HTMLArea is invoked automatically for any tiddler tagged
with wysiwyg. In an otherwise standard TW, the new tiddler
rightsidebar option create an untagged tiddlert which therefore
invokes the standard editor. I have to tag the tiddler as wysiwyg,
close it and then reopen it to see the HTMLArea editor.
Is there a way to create a tiddler which is already tagged and then
open it (in the HTMLARea editor) automatically perhaps?
I tried tagging the tiddler when it's created using:
newTiddler label:new wysiwyg tiddler tag:wysiwyg text:
{{store.getTiddlerText('WysiwygTemplate')}}
where WysiwygTemplate is a pre-existing empty tiddler, already tagged
with wysiwyg. But this creates a new tiddler, correctly tagged, but
in the standard editor as if the tag has been applied too late.
(I was initially misled here. The normal tiddler creation option lets
you edit an as yet non-existent tiddler. If you cancel the editor no
such tiddler remains. But if I use the command above, the same process
generates a real tiddler called New Tiddler which DOES remain
afterwards, presumably because a tag was applied. Thereafter, any
attempt to use my command DOES open a tiddler in the HTMLArea editor
but only because New Tiddler already exists with the wysiwyg tag).
I wondered if I could invoke the CopyTiddlerPlugin but the Plugin
doesn't mention any parameters that I recognise and I can't for
example swap copyTiddler for newTiddler in the command above.
Is there some other way that I can open a new tiddler, tagged with
wysiwyg and that opens first time in the HTMLArea editor perhaps?
Thanks
Kevin
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[tw] Re: Tidying an entry in my sidebar
Excellent. This looks much better. Thanks very much. Kevin On Oct 15, 1:06 pm, FND [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my second customisation is slightly untidy since the rightsidebar option for it is displaced to the left and is the wrong colour. In [[SideBarOptions]], replace the following: href=javascript:; onclick ... with this: href=javascript:; class=button onclick HTH. -- F. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Tidying an entry in my sidebar
I've placed an example at http://kilucas.tiddlyspot.com/index.html. It's a standard TW with only two additions: 1) The TiddlersBarPlugin to obtain tiddler tabs 2) a custom SideBarOptions entry identified by Eric to toggle tiddler tabs on and off and effect some kind of redraw I think to help resolve a minor conflict with the BreadcrumbsPlugin. But my second customisation is slightly untidy since the rightsidebar option for it is displaced to the left and is the wrong colour. Is it straightforward to fix the position and colour without diminishing its functionality perhaps? Many thanks for any insights you have. Kevin On Oct 14, 8:29 am, FND [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks. I'll try to find a way to get one of these online. You could create a site on Tiddlyspot - see here: http://www.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Troubleshooting -- F. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Where will an HTML editor impact a TW?
Unlike the HTMLArea version in ASciencePad, Bram's version seems to handle most TW markup. I ran identical tests on ASciencePad (abbreviated to ASP in the results below), Bram's HTMLArea (BCHTMLA) and a copy of Bram's HTMLArea with the HTMLFormattingPlugin in place (BCHTMLA+HTMLFP). Here's what I found when testing all the markup listed at www.tiddlywiki.org's markup page. I used Y to indicate the markup worked, N to indicate when it didn't work, and ? when it partly worked. I added comments where there was more detail to add: Bold ASP Y BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y Italic ASP N BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y UnderlineASP N BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y StrikethroughASP N BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y Super script ASP N BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y Sub script ASP N BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y Highlighting ASP N BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y Preformatted ASP N BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y Headings ASP Y BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y Unordered list ASP Y BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y Ordered list ASP Y BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y Definition list ASP N BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y Block quotes ASP ? BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y (ASP omitted the block quote marker in the first row and adjusted the length of a second marker dynamically depending on where the mouse pointer hovered over the tiddler) Block quotes 2 ASP ? BCHTMLA ? BCHTMLA+HTMLFP ? (I don't understand what the form of the blockquote markup is supposed to do but all three TWs displayed the outcome as a single on one line, the text on the next and then a final line with a single . Preformatted ASP N BCHTMLA ? BCHTMLA+HTMLFP ? (The markup page at www.tiddlywiki.org has two forms of preformatted markup. This is the second of the two. ASP showed both sets of curly brackets while both forms of HTMLArea show only the second set of triple curly brackets) TableASP N BCHTMLA N BCHTMLA+HTMLFP N (All showed rows correctly but the rows were separated from each other. I didn't check the COLSPAN and ROWSPAN options. An initial |CssClass|k row was displayed as text rather than as formatting in ASP. I also tried all 3 versions with soft carriage returns at the end of each line of table markup but that made no difference) Macros ASP Y BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y (All environments recognised and ran an embedded tiddler (I used newTiddler). I suspect that some macros which inspect tiddler content behave differently in different environments. For example the macro showtoc for DCTableOfContentsPlugin inspects headings. It generated a macro error in BCHTMLA but generated some incomplete error text that was not highlighted in the standard error colour in BCHTMLA +HTMLFP. I did not know how to place it within ASP so I didn't try it there). I'm guessing therefore that HTMLFormattingPlugin may not be needed alongside Bram's HTMLArea as available in AsciiMath-2.4.1.081008.zip from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=150646package_id=169974release_id=599120 unless it's somehow cleverer at running macros that refer to the structure of the tiddler in which they're embedded. The TW markup can be useful at present because there are some oddities with the way this HTMLArea formats headings using its style dropdown box. If I have to abandon this part of the HTMLArea toolbar I'm wondering if I'll end up abandoning other parts once I've explored them. And I'd be quite happy to use TW markup because my interest in this version of HTMLArea is its ability to create mathematical expressions and graphs, rather than its wysiwyg capability. There's another potential advantage with tables. Although HTMLArea provides a table insertion tool, I can't find a way to modify or extend a table easily after it's been created. And you can't easily paste the content of an old table into a new one of a different size. TW markup though might make table extension easier. In the light of all this I wondered: 1) have I missed any significant tests? I've been very focused on markup but, apart from macros, I wasn't sure what else I should test 2) does anyone know of any other ways in which this version of HTMLArea might impact other aspects of TW? 3) does anyone know if there's an online user guide to HTMLArea? (I suspect it's considered so simple it doesn't need one, and the original producers no longer support it, but such a guide might show if tables really can be extended) Thanks Kevin On Oct 13, 2:11 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just spotted HTMLFormattingPlugin which looks as if it'll help me use more TW markup and the HTMLFormattingPluginInfo provides an introduction to some TW markup that wouldn't work including embedded macros. Of course there's no information there about plugin compatibilities (unless the plugin is invoked via a macro) so I'd remain interested in any issues anyone foresees here. And meanwhile I'll try out
[tw] Re: Where will an HTML editor impact a TW?
I've just spotted HTMLFormattingPlugin which looks as if it'll help me use more TW markup and the HTMLFormattingPluginInfo provides an introduction to some TW markup that wouldn't work including embedded macros. Of course there's no information there about plugin compatibilities (unless the plugin is invoked via a macro) so I'd remain interested in any issues anyone foresees here. And meanwhile I'll try out HTMLFormattingPlugin. Thanks Kevin On Oct 13, 1:59 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks as if I'll use the HTMLArea editor as my primary tiddler editor because Bram Chen's got a version which intergates the ASCIIMath capability. But I'm wondering what, if anything I'll lose by using such an editor or what changes I need to be aware of. For example, it looks as if standard tiddler markup for tables won't work. While this might not matter too much because HTMLArea has its own table creation capability, I can't see how to change a table if I want to enlarge it and pasting old tables into new larger tables looks difficult. So TW markup might therefore have been more flexible). As another example, the DCTableOfContentsPlugin seems to work in my TW- stanrad tiddlers but noit in my HTMLArtea tiddlers whether the headings are marked with an exclamation mark or via the heading style. I'm guessing that I'll need to assess all TW markup to see what will and won't work and that I'll have to test all my plugins that affect HTML-edited tiddlers. But if anyone has any pointers on what's most likely to differ from standard TW tiddlers it'd be great to hear from you so that I can focus my testing in the most liklely areas. Being new to TW I don't feel very clear where problems may lurk! And I searched through this group but didn't spot any postings that seemed to cover this. (My apologies if I missed any). Many thanks Kevin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Moving HTMLArea files
Bram
Very helpful - I'll give this a try.
I'd like to centralise these if I can because otherwise I'm going to
have multiple copies of HTMLArea alongside my various TWs. And, if
HTMLArea changes, I've then got to refresh them all.
So I think I'm reaching the conclusion that just doing so in one
cetral location would be simplest.
Thanks very much.
Kevin
On Oct 12, 5:15 am, BramChen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Kevin,
Using the relative path is recommended if your TW and HTMLArea located
on the same drive.
Otherwise, you should specify the file locations in terms of full file
uri including file:/// before the drive name, for example,
MarkupPreHead
!--{{{--
!--PJ--
script type=text/javascript src=file:///C:/Program Files/
Tiddlywiki/Bramchen/HTMLArea/plugins/AsciiMath/ASCIIMathML.js/
script
script type=text/javascript src=file:///C:/Program Files/
Tiddlywiki/Bramchen/HTMLArea/plugins/AsciiSvg/ASCIIsvg.js/script
script type=text/javascript src=file:///C:/Program Files/
Tiddlywiki/Bramchen/HTMLArea/plugins/AsciiSvg/ASCIIsvgAddon.js/
script
script type=text/javascript src=file:///C:/Program Files/
Tiddlywiki/Bramchen/HTMLArea/plugins/AsciiMath/
ASCIIMathCalculator.js/script
script type=text/javascript
_editor_url = file:///C:/Program Files/Tiddlywiki/Bramchen/
HTMLArea/;
_editor_lang = en;
/script
script type=text/javascript src=file:///C:/Program Files/
Tiddlywiki/Bramchen/HTMLArea/htmlarea.js/script
!--PJ--
!--}}}--
MarkupPostBody
script src=file:///C:/Program Files/Tiddlywiki/Bramchen/HTMLArea/
htmlareaPlugin.js type=text/javascript/script
--
Bram Chen
On 10月11日, 上午7時42分, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd like to try moving all my external software files to a central
location and, all my environemnts are Windows, I'll make that C:
\program files\tiddlywiki\. One such chunk of sofwtare is Bram Chen's
mathematical HTMLArea.
I've therefore moved all the HTMLArea files and folders into C:
\program files\tiddlywiki\bramchen\ and consequently mkodfied the two
standard markup tiddlers that HTMLArea requires you to modify so that
they point to the new locations as follows:
MarkupPreHead
!--{{{--
!--PJ--
script type=text/javascript src=C:\Program Files\Tiddlywiki
\Bramchen\HTMLArea\plugins\AsciiMath\ASCIIMathML.js/script
script type=text/javascript src=C:\Program Files\Tiddlywiki
\Bramchen\HTMLArea\plugins\AsciiSvg\ASCIIsvg.js/script
script type=text/javascript src=C:\Program Files\Tiddlywiki
\Bramchen\HTMLArea\plugins\AsciiSvg\ASCIIsvgAddon.js/script
script type=text/javascript src=C:\Program Files\Tiddlywiki
\Bramchen\HTMLArea\plugins\AsciiMath\ASCIIMathCalculator.js/script
script type=text/javascript
_editor_url = HTMLArea/;
_editor_lang = zh-tw;
/script
script type=text/javascript src=C:\Program Files\Tiddlywiki
\Bramchen\HTMLArea\htmlarea.js/script
!--PJ--
!--}}}--
MarkupPostBody
script src=C:\Program Files\Tiddlywiki\Bramchen\HTMLArea
\htmlareaPlugin.js type=text/javascript/script.
If I now reload my TW having removed the HTMLArea files from
alonsgide, where they used to be, the TW fails to display anything
merely saying Error on page in the lower left of IE6 or merely
Done in Firefox 3.
If I put a cvopy of all the HTMLArea files back alongside the TW but
leave my modified markup in place, then the TW loads correctly.
I see that there are files like TiddlySaver.jar and TiddlyWiki.en.js
which normally sit alongside my TW and there's nowhere in the markup
that I've indicated that these have moved. Do I need to signify this
somewhere?
If I leave just these alongside the TW, then the TW will load but does
not display MathXML but the ASCIIMath codes instead.
Is it obvious to anyone what else I need to do to relocate all the
HTMLArea files to my program files folder perhaps?
Thanks
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[tw] Re: Managing synonyms
Eric If the target tiddler name contains spaces, how do I refer to it in the with part of the statement please? I tried enclosing the tiddler name in double quotes and in double square brackets but neither worked and in fact both corrupted the display of the countdown seconds. Thanks Kevin On Oct 12, 2:48 pm, wolfgang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kevin and Eric, So does anyone else face similar challenges with synonyms and if so what startegies do you use to make your TW use either of them flexibly? For plural cases PluralAliasPlugin would already do: http://jackparke.googlepages.com/jtw.html#PluralAliasPlugin But in the case of synonyms I thinkTiddlerAliasPlugin is really the plugin of choice: http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/Beta.html#TiddlerAliasPlugin Regards, W. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Managing synonyms
Eric
I tried the double square brackets again as in the text pasted below:
{{small{You will be automatically redirected to [[Rachmaninov]] in
tiddler TimedTiddlerTour with: [[Rachmaninov Test]] 10 close
seconds}}}
The Tiddler Rachmaninov Test already exsists and the above text
appears in a tidller called Rachmaninoff Test.
Even after a TW reload the tiddler however was displayed immediately
(no0t merely after 10 seconds) as pasted below:
You will be automatically redirected to Rachmaninov in seconds
The Rachmaninov word is formatted like a non-existent tiddler -
italicised and coloured differently from the rest of the text in the
sentence - and if I click on it I'm offered the option to edit a new
tiddler.
Does this provide any useful insights into what's going wrong perhaps?
Thanks
Kevin
On Oct 12, 7:45 pm, Eric Shulman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If the target tiddler name contains spaces, how do I refer to it in
the with part of the statement please? I tried enclosing the tiddler
name in double quotes and in double square brackets but neither worked
and in fact both corrupted the display of the countdown seconds.
hmm... double-square brackets is the correct syntax
I did a quick test in any empty document containing just
InlineJavascriptPlugin, the TimedTiddlerTour script, and two test
tiddlers: one to invoke the script, and the other to be opened (with a
title containing spaces).
The syntax I used to invoke the script is:
tiddler TimedTiddlerTour with: [[Title With Spaces]] 10 close
and seems to working just fine for me (i.e., it succeeded in opening
[[Title With Spaces]]).
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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[tw] Re: Managing synonyms
I now realise that my comments on the displayed Rachmaninov word are
irrelevant as that's just part of my text and is unaffected by the
TimedTiddlerTour (And I erroneously omitted the second word of the
Tiddler name).
But as you can see, there's no counter.
I tried this again with double square brackets round the multi-word
tiddler within TimedTiddletTour and still had no counter. Neither did
the tiddler redirect.
When I removed the second word from inside the double square brackets
the timer reappeared.
I got the copy of the Plugin via the Import facility at www.tiddlytools.com
earlier today.
Does any of this help?
Thanks
Kevin
On Oct 12, 8:30 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Eric
I tried the double square brackets again as in the text pasted below:
{{small{You will be automatically redirected to [[Rachmaninov]] in
tiddler TimedTiddlerTour with: [[Rachmaninov Test]] 10 close
seconds}}}
The Tiddler Rachmaninov Test already exsists and the above text
appears in a tidller called Rachmaninoff Test.
Even after a TW reload the tiddler however was displayed immediately
(no0t merely after 10 seconds) as pasted below:
You will be automatically redirected to Rachmaninov in seconds
The Rachmaninov word is formatted like a non-existent tiddler -
italicised and coloured differently from the rest of the text in the
sentence - and if I click on it I'm offered the option to edit a new
tiddler.
Does this provide any useful insights into what's going wrong perhaps?
Thanks
Kevin
On Oct 12, 7:45 pm, Eric Shulman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If the target tiddler name contains spaces, how do I refer to it in
the with part of the statement please? I tried enclosing the tiddler
name in double quotes and in double square brackets but neither worked
and in fact both corrupted the display of the countdown seconds.
hmm... double-square brackets is the correct syntax
I did a quick test in any empty document containing just
InlineJavascriptPlugin, the TimedTiddlerTour script, and two test
tiddlers: one to invoke the script, and the other to be opened (with a
title containing spaces).
The syntax I used to invoke the script is:
tiddler TimedTiddlerTour with: [[Title With Spaces]] 10 close
and seems to working just fine for me (i.e., it succeeded in opening
[[Title With Spaces]]).
-e
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[tw] Pasting MathXML into TW
I inadvertently pasted some web text containing MathXML into an HTMLArea-edited tiddler in Bram Chen's TW. (I'd been getting used to seeing MathXML displayed in tiddlers via the customised HTMLArea and forgot that a page already displaying MathXML would contain the MathXML itself and not the ASCIIMath codes that HTMLArea uses). I also have the TiddlersBarPlugin set to show tabs and only one tiddler at a time. The effects of the paste were odd. Although the tiddler itself displayed just fine, the TiddlersBarPlugin did not display the tabs for such tiddlers and tiddlers are displayed one above the other even though TiddlersBarPlugin is set to allow only one tiddler to be on show at atime. I'm far from clear why this is and am not particulartly expecting to want to do it much. But it took me quite a long while to find out what had happened and I thought I'd post the finding here just in case anyone else encounters the symptoms and wonders about the cause. Kevin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Alternative to FootnotesPlugin
Very helpful. I'll give some thought to safe characters to use.
Thanks
Kevin
On Oct 8, 10:16 am, FND [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know of an alternative footnote generator or even whether
I can somehow change the character used to signify the footnote entry
Replacing the trigger markers is relatively easy - the problem though is
finding convenient characters that aren't already taken.
In general, the code looks like this:
---
//{{{
FootnotesPluginTweak = {
replaceFormatters: function() {
for(var i = 0; i config.formatters.length; i++) {
var obj = config.formatters[i];
if(obj.name == footnotes) {
obj.match = ```;
obj.lookaheadRegExp = /```((?:.|\n)*?)```/g;
break;
}
}
}};
FootnotesPluginTweak.replaceFormatters();
//}}}
---
Stick this into a tiddler tagged with systemConfig (e.g.
[[ConfigTweaks]]) and replace all nine occurrences of ` with the
marker of your choice (note that for technical reasons, not all
characters will work right away - you might try escaping those with a
leading backslash; e.g. \$).
HTH.
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[tw] Re: Bram Chen's HTMLArea
Ah, excellent. I will. Thanks Kevin On Oct 7, 10:12 am, BramChen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry Kevin, I forgot to pack core .js file with AsciiMath-2.4.1.080902.zip. Download the new one, named AsciiMath-2.4.1.081007.zip, please. Bram On 10月7日, 上午3時45分, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very helpful all. I'll experiment with this further very shortly but can I just check; should I be able to open AsciiMath-2.4.1.en.html and see HTMLArea in action? When I try to open it Internet Explorer 6 and Firefox show a blank screen. I've unzipped everything, preserving folder structures, and just attempted to open this file as it appeared there alongside ther HTMLArea folder. Thanks Kevin On Oct 6, 9:19 am, BramChen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The AsciiMath-2.4.1.080902.zip is now based on TW 2.4.1, it could be downloaded from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=150646package_... -- Bram On 10月6日, 下午2時58分, wolfgang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://garr.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/ptw/http://garr.dl.sourcef... W.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Hypergraph dynamic sizing
Just confirming that the percentage option worked fine for both the height and the width and achieved my original resizing aim in fact. Kevin On Oct 1, 2:16 am, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found an example that uses width of 100% so I'll experiment with % values. Thanks Kevin On Oct 1, 1:43 am, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've managed to load Hypergraph into an existing TW and would like to generate Hypergraphs in Tiddlers. Tiddlers resize with the b owser pane size and with the FullScreenPlugin so I'd like the Hypergraph to resize with them. The main hypergraph embedded at the top of the page (and which is not in a tiddler) resizes dynamically but the only options listed in the config documentation refer to absolute widths or heights like 500 or 200. Does anyone know if I can tell a hypergraph to flex its size depending on the size of the tiddler in which it's embedded perhaps? Many thanks Kevin- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Hypergraph as a visual TW table of contents
Wolfgang I still can't see your screenshot. Is the URL correct? I have no online location to post a screenshot. Is there a way to post one as an attachment in this group - I can't see a mechanism as I type this - and are we permitted to do so? If so I can provide a screenshot. I know words are never as good but my graph looks really simple as the options are set to show only tiddlers; A home node in the middle, a Tiddlers node to the right of it, and then a spray of blue lines to the right of that with no visible nodes. I don't know how to check the number of tiddlers in the TW directly but a SaveAs reports 118 saved. So I'm guessing that spray contains 118 lines and that the map can't try to display 118 nodes on the ends of them. I don't claim to know where all the tiddlers come from as I've no content tiddlers yet - just two or three test tiddlers and my plugins, of which I count approx 30 in the backstage list. I see more information on alternative central nodes and the potential role of tags in another thread and will explore those ideas shortly. Thanks very much for the feedback and ideas. Kevin On Oct 6, 3:34 pm, wolfgang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I made a tiddlerMap of my 3.7 MB 'Changing Themes' TiddlyWiki with almost 1000 tiddlers. The XML grew 1.8 MB itself! Here's a screenshot: http://110mb.com/hypergraph_.jpg Sorry, this is the correct link to the screenshot: http://wolfi.110mb.com/hypergraph_.jpg W. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
