[tw] Re: INTRO: tiddlyweb at home - a new possibility
Hi MGT, log in to your tweb VM like this: cd to/your/instance/dir vagrant up vagrant ssh in the VM get the interactive tweb-config script from my github repo cd ~ wget https://raw.github.com/pmario/tweb-config/master/tweb-config chmod +x tweb-config sudo mv tweb-config /usr/local/bin/tweb-config the command which tweb-config should show you: usr/local/bin/tweb-config. If not, there is something wrong. The users and new TW configuration has to be done at the tweb instance. The /vagrant directory will be automatically shared with the host system. So this directory can be seen inside and outside the VM. inside the VM cd /vagrant cd /tweb tweb-config[image: Superuser Menu] you should see: http://tweb-at-home.tiddlyspace.com/010InstanceMenu.png This system is designed to work with different users but since the auth system is not installed yet, every user can write to every TW. This may change in the future (TiddlyWiki UI is missing atm :) If you create a new TW, you will need to assign an existing user. You should not use administrator. That's why create a new user ... 2 - create a new user 3 - create a new tiddlywiki If you did create a new TW named eg: myTw. Just reload your browser. http://tweb.local:8080/recipes You should see a new recipe myTw_public .. http://tweb.local:8080/myTW_public behind the scenes the script creates a second TW: myTw_private but since you are not logged in, you can't see it. If you have a look at the directory structure you will see it ... I did remove the renaming feature, since it gets extremely confusing if you have 10+ recipes (TWs). feedback is highly welcome! have fun! mario PS: I think I'll include this script by default. So it will be easy to create new users and TWs. The whole setup stuff will be not needed anymore. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: INTRO: tiddlyweb at home - a new possibility
Hi MGT, log in to your tweb VM like this: cd to/your/instance/dir vagrant up vagrant ssh in the VM get the interactive tweb-config script from my github repo cd ~ wget https://raw.github.com/pmario/tweb-config/master/tweb-config chmod +x tweb-config sudo mv tweb-config /usr/local/bin the command which tweb-config should show you: usr/local/bin/tweb-config. If not, there is something wrong. The users and new TW configuration has to be done at the tweb instance. The /vagrant directory will be automatically shared with the host system. So this directory can be seen inside and outside the VM. inside the VM cd /vagrant cd /tweb tweb-config[image: Superuser Menu] you should see: http://tweb-at-home.tiddlyspace.com/010InstanceMenu.png This system is designed to work with different users but since the auth system is not installed yet, every user can write to every TW. This may change in the future (TiddlyWiki UI is missing atm :) If you create a new TW, you will need to assign an existing user. You should not use administrator. That's why create a new user ... 2 - create a new user 3 - create a new tiddlywiki If you did create a new TW named eg: myTw. Just reload your browser. http://tweb.local:8080/recipes You should see a new recipe myTw_public .. http://tweb.local:8080/myTW_public behind the scenes the script creates a second TW: myTw_private but since you are not logged in, you can't see it. If you have a look at the directory structure you will see it ... I did remove the renaming feature, since it gets extremely confusing if you have 10+ recipes (TWs). feedback is highly welcome! have fun! mario PS: I think I'll include this script by default. So it will be easy to create new users and TWs. The whole setup stuff will be not needed anymore. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: INTRO: tiddlyweb at home - a new possibility
Hi Mario, Works great, thanks - two TW's up and running. The TiddlyWeb at home configuration tool is a nice feature - will you keep expanding its functionality? Would be great if there was a command line script to make it easier to assess these tools. Cheers, Mark On Monday, 26 August 2013 09:47:47 UTC+1, PMario wrote: Hi MGT, log in to your tweb VM like this: cd to/your/instance/dir vagrant up vagrant ssh in the VM get the interactive tweb-config script from my github repo cd ~ wget https://raw.github.com/pmario/tweb-config/master/tweb-config chmod +x tweb-config sudo mv tweb-config /usr/local/bin the command which tweb-config should show you: usr/local/bin/tweb-config. If not, there is something wrong. The users and new TW configuration has to be done at the tweb instance. The /vagrant directory will be automatically shared with the host system. So this directory can be seen inside and outside the VM. inside the VM cd /vagrant cd /tweb tweb-config[image: Superuser Menu] you should see: http://tweb-at-home.tiddlyspace.com/010InstanceMenu.png This system is designed to work with different users but since the auth system is not installed yet, every user can write to every TW. This may change in the future (TiddlyWiki UI is missing atm :) If you create a new TW, you will need to assign an existing user. You should not use administrator. That's why create a new user ... 2 - create a new user 3 - create a new tiddlywiki If you did create a new TW named eg: myTw. Just reload your browser. http://tweb.local:8080/recipes You should see a new recipe myTw_public .. http://tweb.local:8080/myTW_public behind the scenes the script creates a second TW: myTw_private but since you are not logged in, you can't see it. If you have a look at the directory structure you will see it ... I did remove the renaming feature, since it gets extremely confusing if you have 10+ recipes (TWs). feedback is highly welcome! have fun! mario PS: I think I'll include this script by default. So it will be easy to create new users and TWs. The whole setup stuff will be not needed anymore. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: INTRO: tiddlyweb at home - a new possibility
On Monday, August 26, 2013 1:21:26 PM UTC+2, MGT wrote: Works great, thanks - two TW's up and running. cool The TiddlyWeb at home configuration tool is a nice feature - will you keep expanding its functionality? What did you miss? Would be great if there was a command line script to make it easier to assess these tools. A command line script. where? host or inside vm? -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: INTRO: tiddlyweb at home - a new possibility
On Sunday, August 25, 2013 1:16:51 AM UTC+2, MGT wrote: Works a treat, although I couldn't work out how to set the 'hosts' file for OSX so I just used the full address: http://192.168.3.10:8080/default. This will allow me to start exploring tiddlyweb in more detail and migrate away from the old style single file format. Thanks for putting this together. Cool that it worked for you. You are right. The full address can be used too. I'll include that in the docs. have fun! mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: INTRO: tiddlyweb at home - a new possibility
On Sunday, August 25, 2013 1:16:51 AM UTC+2, MGT wrote: Works a treat, although I couldn't work out how to set the 'hosts' file for OSX so I just used the full address: http://192.168.3.10:8080/default. This will allow me to start exploring tiddlyweb in more detail and migrate away from the old style single file format. Thanks for putting this together. A quick search says: /private/etc/hosts -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: INTRO: tiddlyweb at home - a new possibility
In the end I did need to add the line 192.168.3.10tweb.local to hosts as the TW wouldn't save. I used the following command sudo nano /etc/hosts and all works fine now. How do I go about adding another TW to this? Mark On Sunday, 25 August 2013 10:16:41 UTC+1, PMario wrote: On Sunday, August 25, 2013 1:16:51 AM UTC+2, MGT wrote: Works a treat, although I couldn't work out how to set the 'hosts' file for OSX so I just used the full address: http://192.168.3.10:8080/default. This will allow me to start exploring tiddlyweb in more detail and migrate away from the old style single file format. Thanks for putting this together. A quick search says: /private/etc/hosts -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: INTRO: tiddlyweb at home - a new possibility
On Sunday, August 25, 2013 11:25:08 AM UTC+2, MGT wrote: In the end I did need to add the line 192.168.3.10tweb.local to hosts as the TW wouldn't save. I used the following command sudo nano /etc/hosts and all works fine now. Right. I just did a test and found out, that it doesn't save :)) How do I go about adding another TW to this? You'd need to ssh into vagrant and create some new TWs with the command line. There is no possibility atm to do some orchestration from outside. I'd need some time to create some scripts, or I'd need to rewrite the interacitve tool, I did for the raspberry pi. Are you able to use the shell ? -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: INTRO: tiddlyweb at home - a new possibility
@MGT * does a Mac use '/usr/local/bin/' to store scripts? I did have a short look at the tweb-config script. I need to adjust the paths but it should be worth the effort. It should work with the vagrant setup and the raspi. -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: INTRO: tiddlyweb at home - a new possibility
I did test the tweb-conifg script and it seems to work well, without any modifications. I'll do some more testing and post some info how to use it with vagrant ssh -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: INTRO: tiddlyweb at home - a new possibility
Hi Mario, Just theoretically, how much more effort, if even possible, would be a TiddlySpace At Home... which might to do away with certain console needs? ...at least for starters. Utopia? Cheers, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: INTRO: tiddlyweb at home - a new possibility
On Sunday, August 25, 2013 3:19:59 PM UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote: Just theoretically, how much more effort, if even possible, would be a TiddlySpace At Home... which might to do away with certain console needs? ...at least for starters. Utopia? You just need to create a desktop link that looks something like this. working dir: your/dir/that/contains/the/Vagrantfile command: vagrant up done It could be part of the autostart mechanism too. But I don't use win anymore, so someone else has to jump in here. -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: INTRO: tiddlyweb at home - a new possibility
Hi Mario, Works a treat, although I couldn't work out how to set the 'hosts' file for OSX so I just used the full address: http://192.168.3.10:8080/default. This will allow me to start exploring tiddlyweb in more detail and migrate away from the old style single file format. Thanks for putting this together. Mark On Thursday, 22 August 2013 21:44:56 UTC+1, PMario wrote: On Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:32:52 PM UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote: 1) The video descriptions! ^_^ You definetely need to link to http://tweb-at-home.tiddlyspace.com *everywhere* and also to special topics that are part of the video(s). You think of a home button? 2) Use a handful of annotations to link related videos and resources. You are right. The videos need annotations. 3) After having watched your video I have no idea what Vagrant is doing and if I still need to download and run that iso image or not, etc... There is no need to use the LiveCD image if you use the vagrant stuff. Vagrant will build all the dependencies and configurations from scratch. The vagrant video is there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFNAlxp5fdg I just forgot to add it to tweb-at-home :) At the moment I'd be am more inclined to try and install TiddlyWeb natively. If you think you can convince me that tweb-at-home is the better way to go: Do you have a list of pro's and con's compared to a native TiddlyWeb install? If you want to have a small footprint, you can deffinitely go with a native install. As I wrote (somewhere) I use the step by step howtoos myself. So they should work ... but who knows all the OS quirks :) ... Pro's and Con's will follow. -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: INTRO: tiddlyweb at home - a new possibility
Hi Mario, First things first, I think it's great what you're doing there, especially with the tenet of making things as simple as it gets! = Don't want to introduce more work for you but a couple of things will be helpful, if not essential. 1) The video descriptions! ^_^ You definetely need to link to http://tweb-at-home.tiddlyspace.com *everywhere* and also to special topics that are part of the video(s). 2) Use a handful of annotations to link related videos and resources. 3) After having watched your video I have no idea what Vagrant is doing and if I still need to download and run that iso image or not, etc... ~ At the moment I'd be am more inclined to try and install TiddlyWeb natively. If you think you can convince me that tweb-at-home is the better way to go: Do you have a list of pro's and con's compared to a native TiddlyWeb install? Thanks, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: INTRO: tiddlyweb at home - a new possibility
On Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:32:52 PM UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote: 1) The video descriptions! ^_^ You definetely need to link to http://tweb-at-home.tiddlyspace.com *everywhere* and also to special topics that are part of the video(s). You think of a home button? 2) Use a handful of annotations to link related videos and resources. You are right. The videos need annotations. 3) After having watched your video I have no idea what Vagrant is doing and if I still need to download and run that iso image or not, etc... There is no need to use the LiveCD image if you use the vagrant stuff. Vagrant will build all the dependencies and configurations from scratch. The vagrant video is there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFNAlxp5fdg I just forgot to add it to tweb-at-home :) At the moment I'd be am more inclined to try and install TiddlyWeb natively. If you think you can convince me that tweb-at-home is the better way to go: Do you have a list of pro's and con's compared to a native TiddlyWeb install? If you want to have a small footprint, you can deffinitely go with a native install. As I wrote (somewhere) I use the step by step howtoos myself. So they should work ... but who knows all the OS quirks :) ... Pro's and Con's will follow. -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: INTRO: tiddlyweb at home - a new possibility
The latest version of tweb-at-home new possibility is at: https://github.com/pmario/tweb-vagrant have fun! mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: INTRO: tiddlyweb at home - a new possibility
Hi, I just saw this now. One question, in the video, you were accessing the text if the individual tiddlers from outside the browser. I've always wanted to be able to do that. I don't know much about virtual machines, though. Was that accessing the text files from within a specific part of the VM, or could I potentially do that from the normal file system, e.g. through a bash script? Thanks, Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: INTRO: tiddlyweb at home - a new possibility
On Monday, August 5, 2013 10:59:28 PM UTC+2, Dave wrote: One question, in the video, you were accessing the text if the individual tiddlers from outside the browser. I've always wanted to be able to do that. I don't know much about virtual machines, though. Was that accessing the text files from within a specific part of the VM, or could I potentially do that from the normal file system, e.g. through a bash script? The default behaviour at the moment is, that the tiddlyweb store is exposed outside the VM. So if someone messes up the VM, the content is still accessible. If external skripts modify the store at the same time, as a TW is editing stuff, you will need to reload the TW otherwise the store may break. A better way to modify the content with bash scripts would be to use the tiddlyweb http API. It can be used with curl. You may overwrite some tiddlers, but the store should not be broken. As shown in the video the text store can handle revisions. have fun! mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
