[tw] Re: Success in combining treeview TiddlyDesktop and MoveableTW ... but ...
An other way to have tiddlers side-by-side for text comparison would be to create one more display area parallel to tiddlers: http://double.tiddlyspot.com/ But most easy would be the use of OpenTiddlerInWindowCommand by Bradley Meck. Sadly, its original location with a fist implementation of a spreadsheet in tiddlers seems to have been deleted. (http://genisis329.googlepages.com/TWMath.html) Therefore placed it in my drop box here: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/241006/archive/MathCell.html#OpenTiddlerInWindowCommand Regards.. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Success in combining treeview TiddlyDesktop and MoveableTW ... but ...
Wauw - so very simple and very usefull indeed!!! Exactly what I was looking for!!! Great, Wolfgang - thanks for sharing!! I didn't even consider one of these examples to be possible - but - of course - This is the magic that makes TiddlyWiki so fun to work with - all possible effects that are available for html in web2.0 can become a tool in a TiddlyWiki document - if a TwWizard writes the magic formula and turns it into a plugin. I will definitly use Bradley Meck's OpenTiddlerInWindowCommand - that's for sure- I don't really understand why it isn't a standardplugin used by many TwAdaptions??? - It's very handy and simple to use.. YS Måns Mårtensson On 30 Sep., 20:39, wolfgang wolfgangl...@gmail.com wrote: An other way to have tiddlers side-by-side for text comparison would be to create one more display area parallel to tiddlers: http://double.tiddlyspot.com/ But most easy would be the use of OpenTiddlerInWindowCommand by Bradley Meck. Sadly, its original location with a fist implementation of a spreadsheet in tiddlers seems to have been deleted. (http://genisis329.googlepages.com/TWMath.html) Therefore placed it in my drop box here: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/241006/archive/MathCell.html#OpenTiddlerIn... Regards.. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Success in combining treeview TiddlyDesktop and MoveableTW ... but ...
I don't really understand why it isn't a standardplugin used by many TwAdaptions??? - It's very handy and simple to use.. I don't understand why I never clicked into one of the cell in the spreadsheet at MathCell TiddlyWiki .. lol .. must have been the total lack of documentation, not understanding the underlying spreadsheet tiddler when I first encountered it years ago - and thinking inline editing of cells wouldn't be a possibility already.. doh If anyone ever came up with a way to style the width of the table cells I would appreciate to know. (PS. also don't understand why nobody ever told me whenever I asked so often for a way to edit table cells inline??) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Success in combining treeview TiddlyDesktop and MoveableTW ... but ...
One question regarding the OpenTiddlerInWindowCommand: Would it be possible to turn it into a tranclusion - or a simple script without the need for systemConfig? Would it be better practice? YS Måns Mårtensson On 30 Sep., 23:01, wolfgang wolfgangl...@gmail.com wrote: I don't really understand why it isn't a standardplugin used by many TwAdaptions??? - It's very handy and simple to use.. I don't understand why I never clicked into one of the cell in the spreadsheet at MathCell TiddlyWiki .. lol .. must have been the total lack of documentation, not understanding the underlying spreadsheet tiddler when I first encountered it years ago - and thinking inline editing of cells wouldn't be a possibility already.. doh If anyone ever came up with a way to style the width of the table cells I would appreciate to know. (PS. also don't understand why nobody ever told me whenever I asked so often for a way to edit table cells inline??) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Success in combining treeview TiddlyDesktop and MoveableTW ... but ...
Hmmm... The OpenTiddlerInWindowCommand has some serious limitations - in that it doesn't handle Eric's wikify custom fields or macros like Tagglytagging... I have - for instance - a lot of images which are wikified images from custom fields - these images arent visible in a new window popup... YS Måns Mårtensson On 30 Sep., 23:22, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote: One question regarding the OpenTiddlerInWindowCommand: Would it be possible to turn it into a tranclusion - or a simple script without the need for systemConfig? Would it be better practice? YS Måns Mårtensson On 30 Sep., 23:01, wolfgang wolfgangl...@gmail.com wrote: I don't really understand why it isn't a standardplugin used by many TwAdaptions??? - It's very handy and simple to use.. I don't understand why I never clicked into one of the cell in the spreadsheet at MathCell TiddlyWiki .. lol .. must have been the total lack of documentation, not understanding the underlying spreadsheet tiddler when I first encountered it years ago - and thinking inline editing of cells wouldn't be a possibility already.. doh If anyone ever came up with a way to style the width of the table cells I would appreciate to know. (PS. also don't understand why nobody ever told me whenever I asked so often for a way to edit table cells inline??) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Success in combining treeview TiddlyDesktop and MoveableTW ... but ...
The OpenTiddlerInWindowCommand has some serious limitations - in that it doesn't handle Eric's wikify custom fields or macros like Tagglytagging... That's why I would only recommend it for simple text comparisons.. Would it be possible to turn it into a tranclusion - or a simple script without the need for systemConfig? Would it be better practice? Not necessarily. It's just more straight forward not to depend on any tag or reloading. I don't think it matters that much with such a small macro. Only once the TiddlyWiki size has grown very large and with many other plugin installed can a performance lag be experienced. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Success in combining treeview TiddlyDesktop and MoveableTW ... but ...
I don't understand why I never clicked into one of the cell in the spreadsheet at MathCell TiddlyWiki .. lol .. must have been the total lack of documentation, not understanding the underlying spreadsheet tiddler when I first encountered it years ago - and thinking inline editing of cells wouldn't be a possibility already.. doh have to correct myself. Seems me not being able to comprehend, as totally new to TiddlyWiki, made me file it under 'not documented'.. With QuickEditPackage, especially: http://www.tiddlytools.com/#QuickEdit_convert it is possible to convert TW table format into the CSV comma separated format of MathCell, and back again. So that inline editing of already existing large tables is very easily possible too (unless there are already commas in table cells). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Success in combining treeview TiddlyDesktop and MoveableTW ... but ...
when I
click the home button - when I click another home-script Hjem in
the mainmenu it opens a defaulttiddler: kom i gang which doesen't
behave as a moveable tiddler (?)
Non-moveable tiddlers are a bug with tiddlyDesktop, and most
regularly happen with automatic opening tiddlers, for example with
[[ImportedTiddlers]] after importing with ImportTiddlersPlugin.
The only way I found to overcome this is using the 'jump' command
of any tiddler and choosing the unresponsive one.
Since even a transcluded [[RefreshTiddler]] button (by Eric) doesn't
work for tiddlers non-moveable upon opening - wouldn't somehow
hijacking the jump command for the present {{tiddler.title}}
constitute a better 'refresh' and overcome this limitation of
RefreshTiddler?
Anyone in the known how such a hijack of the jump macro for the single
purpose of a refresh could look like?
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[tw] Re: Success in combining treeview TiddlyDesktop and MoveableTW ... but ...
I like that the treeview is on a mainmenu which is in the background - but it is annoying that Yoursearch also opens up in the background - hidden by open tiddlers - how can I change that? Yoursearch never opened for me in the background of tiddlers, nor now with a quick trial at your address. Does this happen everytime for you, or only with certain tiddlers? Since FF2 worked well for me and hearing about some bugs with FF3, I avoided it till now. However, with FF3 YourSearch results are indeed hidden in the background. On the other hand, I just tried FF 3.5.3 with a 13MB TiddlyWiki and a 'saveChanges' for such a huge TiddlyWiki reduced from above a minute to less than 10 seconds! Beside the headache it gives with TiddlyDesktop - that's a real amazing improvement! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Success in combining treeview TiddlyDesktop and MoveableTW ... but ...
but it is annoying that Yoursearch also opens up in the background - hidden by open tiddlers - how can I change that? Open YourSearchStylesheet shadowed tiddler and add the following to its already existing YourSearchResult Stylesheet section: z-index:1000 .. originally I only uploaded this TW for getting an answer to my still unanswered question in this thread: http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/fd6756... in FF3 this works fine, so it's actually only FF2 with this problem. Even IE8 and Opera10 are doing fine in this respect. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Success in combining treeview TiddlyDesktop and MoveableTW ... but ...
Hi Eric
Now I'm trying to work with the MoveablePanelPlugin.
One thing that is very annoying is the fact that the mouse often
locks/glues to a floating window - and I cannot get it off again -
grrr
I wonder if it has something to do with the iframes or embedded
movieclips - but still I need an option to release the mouse from a
moveable tiddler...
esc - or similar - would be very nice..
You can see some of my efforts here: http://myna.tiddlyspot.com/
If you unfold the tiddlertitle on the tiddler myna and click the top
edge of the tiddler, it is glued to the mouse and you can't get rid
of it again unless you refresh the page (F5)
YS Måns Mårtensson
On 24 Sep., 09:08, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote:
I really like the ability to use moveable tiddlers - and
TiddlyDesktops quick response and intuitive way of handling them. Is
it possible to make it work with TspotPlugin/UploadPlugin and in a
more or less normal TW-document?
If you want to create a normal looking document with tear off
tiddlers, try this:
First, install these plugins:
http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#MoveablePanelPlugin
http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#PanelManagerPlugin
Then, edit your ViewTemplate and make two changes:
1) surround the current template layout inside of
div class='moveablePanel'
...
/div
2) Just inside the closing /div above, add this line, which invokes
a macro that adds the mouse-handling and other 'moveable' features to
the tiddler:
div macro='moveablePanel name:{{story.findContainingTiddler
(place).getAttribute(tiddler)}} height:auto'/div
That's it... you can now move the mouse near the edge of any rendered
tiddler and it will change to a 'four-arrows' cursor. Dragging the
tiddler 'undocks' it from it's default 'anchor' point in the story
column, and allows you to place it *anywhere* on the page.
When a tiddler is undocked, a special set of 'panel buttons' will
appear next to the regular toolbar items:
[√] 'docks' the tiddler (returning it to the story column)
[X] closes the tiddler
[≡] brings up the PanelManager menu
The PanelManager includes lots of commands for controlling the
moveable panels in your document, as well as creating named 'panel
maps' that remember the positions of those panels and an interactive
'panel map viewer' that lets you view and manipulate your entire
document using a bird's eye view graphical representation.
Note: PanelManager is not *required* in order to give tiddlers basic
moveability. However, without it, the moveable panels have no
'memory'... when a tiddler panel is closed and then re-opened, it will
revert to it's original, 'docked' position (which may be just what you
want).
If you don't want *all* tiddlers to be moveable, you could either use
http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#TaggedTemplateTweak
and create a [[MoveableViewTemplate]] containing the changes described
above, and then tag individual tiddlers with moveable to active the
functionality for that tiddler.
Alternatively, you can just add the macro:
moveablePanel
directly into any individual tiddler to make just *that* tiddler
moveable, even if no other tiddlers are. You can also limit the
moveable area to a specific portion of a tiddler's content by
enclosing that part of the tiddler source within a CSS wrapper, and
placing the moveablePanel macro at the end of that wrapper, like
this:
{{anyclassnamewillworkhere{
... your content ...
moveablePanel}}}
Note: I recommend that the enclosing CSS class include both
border:... and background-color:... attributes, so that the
moveable panel will be opaque against the other page content (so that
it appears to float on top of them, rather than overlapping and
blending together).
enjoy,
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[tw] Re: Success in combining treeview TiddlyDesktop and MoveableTW ... but ...
I really like the ability to use moveable tiddlers - and
TiddlyDesktops quick response and intuitive way of handling them. Is
it possible to make it work with TspotPlugin/UploadPlugin and in a
more or less normal TW-document?
If you want to create a normal looking document with tear off
tiddlers, try this:
First, install these plugins:
http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#MoveablePanelPlugin
http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#PanelManagerPlugin
Then, edit your ViewTemplate and make two changes:
1) surround the current template layout inside of
div class='moveablePanel'
...
/div
2) Just inside the closing /div above, add this line, which invokes
a macro that adds the mouse-handling and other 'moveable' features to
the tiddler:
div macro='moveablePanel name:{{story.findContainingTiddler
(place).getAttribute(tiddler)}} height:auto'/div
That's it... you can now move the mouse near the edge of any rendered
tiddler and it will change to a 'four-arrows' cursor. Dragging the
tiddler 'undocks' it from it's default 'anchor' point in the story
column, and allows you to place it *anywhere* on the page.
When a tiddler is undocked, a special set of 'panel buttons' will
appear next to the regular toolbar items:
[√] 'docks' the tiddler (returning it to the story column)
[X] closes the tiddler
[≡] brings up the PanelManager menu
The PanelManager includes lots of commands for controlling the
moveable panels in your document, as well as creating named 'panel
maps' that remember the positions of those panels and an interactive
'panel map viewer' that lets you view and manipulate your entire
document using a bird's eye view graphical representation.
Note: PanelManager is not *required* in order to give tiddlers basic
moveability. However, without it, the moveable panels have no
'memory'... when a tiddler panel is closed and then re-opened, it will
revert to it's original, 'docked' position (which may be just what you
want).
If you don't want *all* tiddlers to be moveable, you could either use
http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#TaggedTemplateTweak
and create a [[MoveableViewTemplate]] containing the changes described
above, and then tag individual tiddlers with moveable to active the
functionality for that tiddler.
Alternatively, you can just add the macro:
moveablePanel
directly into any individual tiddler to make just *that* tiddler
moveable, even if no other tiddlers are. You can also limit the
moveable area to a specific portion of a tiddler's content by
enclosing that part of the tiddler source within a CSS wrapper, and
placing the moveablePanel macro at the end of that wrapper, like
this:
{{anyclassnamewillworkhere{
... your content ...
moveablePanel}}}
Note: I recommend that the enclosing CSS class include both
border:... and background-color:... attributes, so that the
moveable panel will be opaque against the other page content (so that
it appears to float on top of them, rather than overlapping and
blending together).
enjoy,
-e
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[tw] Re: Success in combining treeview TiddlyDesktop and MoveableTW ... but ...
@@About a year ago@@ I've been in contact with BidiX, who said he would look into UploadPlugin's incompatibility with TiddlyDesktop as soon he would find the time... I know BidiX is a very busy man. In spite of this he managed to help me setting his TiddlyHome up - on my webhost @@about a year ago@@. Aha, that's why he got diverted.. ;-) (just joking) It seems the plight of the helpful of always being short of time.. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Success in combining treeview TiddlyDesktop and MoveableTW ... but ...
I notice that the names of the tiddlers in the tree on the left spills over to the tiddler display area (after I readjusted the layouts) with the names that are long. I would rather have the names of the tiddlers handled as if its overflow set as hidden (right now it seems like it is set to auto). What is the suggested way of doing this? Thanks. Cheers; 'best, shankar swamy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Success in combining treeview TiddlyDesktop and MoveableTW ... but ...
On Sep 24, 10:11 am, Shankar shankar.sw...@gmail.com wrote: I notice that the names of the tiddlers in the tree on the left spills over to the tiddler display area (after I readjusted the layouts) with the names that are long. I would rather have the names of the tiddlers handled as if its overflow set as hidden (right now it seems like it is set to auto). What is the suggested way of doing this? Thanks. Cheers; 'best, shankar swamy My apologies for posting this under the wrong thread - it should have gone under NoteStorm thread. - sns --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Success in combining treeview TiddlyDesktop and MoveableTW ... but ...
There a several things that I can't make work in TiddlyDesktop.. I just remembered that I've tried to save earlier versions of TD to Tiddlyspot - and tried again. The uploadplugin doesn't seem to work when installed into TD! - Is there some kind of workaround? Here's my notworking t-spot-version: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1064531/DeskTree/DeskTree2Tspot/desktree.html Some of the buttons don't seem to work - for instance the + and - in the sidepanel and the hideTopmenu-button in the topmenu They didn't seem to work in the original document either. I really like the ability to use moveable tiddlers - and TiddlyDesktops quick response and intuitive way of handling them. Is it possible to make it work with TspotPlugin/UploadPlugin and in a more or less normal TW-document? YS Måns Mårtensson On 23 Sep., 21:03, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote: Hi TwWizards Wolfgang Finally I have succeeded in combining treeview in the MainMenu and TiddlyDesktop (Groundless desktop by Wolfgang) example:http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1064531/DeskTree/DeskTree.html I like that the treeview is on a mainmenu which is in the background - but it is annoying that Yoursearch also opens up in the background - hidden by open tiddlers - how can I change that? I have also tried to put the treeviewplugin in the moveableTW by Eric - and it kind-of works - however the branches start to ''shake'', when you hover over them with the mouse - and they behave strangely: example:http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1064531/DeskTree/MoveTree.html I still have a steep learning curve when I want to customize TiddlyDesktops interface though - even if the TiDE window opens when I click the home button - when I click another home-script Hjem in the mainmenu it opens a defaulttiddler: kom i gang which doesen't behave as a moveable tiddler (?)- and I don't know how to find the Defaulttiddler in TiddlyDesktop...? Is it possible to install TiddlyDesktop in a plain TW with normal main- and sidemenus - and a normal behaviour of all the standardelements like defaulttiddlers etc? Btw TiDE-plugin doesn't seem to be installed in the TW even if the TiDE window is present (and working)?? - so I don't know how to update the plugin... YS Måns Mårtensson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Success in combining treeview TiddlyDesktop and MoveableTW ... but ...
Hi Mans,
I like that the treeview is on a mainmenu which is in the background -
but it is annoying that Yoursearch also opens up in the background -
hidden by open tiddlers - how can I change that?
Yoursearch never opened for me in the background of tiddlers, nor now
with a quick trial at your address. Does this happen everytime for
you, or only with certain tiddlers?
I still have a steep learning curve when I want to customize
TiddlyDesktops interface though -
Sorry, that's me. Wanting to simplify everything - and still not
having completed this template - also not providing accurate
instruction yet.
even if the TiDE window opens when I
click the home button - when I click another home-script Hjem in
the mainmenu it opens a defaulttiddler: kom i gang which doesen't
behave as a moveable tiddler (?)- and I don't know how to find the
Defaulttiddler in TiddlyDesktop...?
Non-moveable tiddlers are a bug with tiddlyDesktop, and most regularly
happen with automatic opening tiddlers, for example with
[[ImportedTiddlers]] after importing with s. The only way I found to
overcome this is using the 'jump' command of any tiddler and choosing
the unresponsive one.
TiddlyDesktop uses a different format for DefaultTiddlers which also
save the coordinates of their position, here its title and content of
your example:
__tiddlyDesktopLayout
/***
@@''This tiddler is auto-generated - don't edit it!''@@
***/
/*{{{*/
[
{id: 'tiddlerEdit', x: 209, y: 74, z: 1, width: 640, height: 426,
collapsed: false}
]
/*}}}*/
at this moments it specifies the tiddler 'Edit' with its x and y
coordinates, z is a number which specifies which tiddler overlays
which of all the other tiddlers (in this case it's only one tiddler,
if there would be more tidder each would have a different number, ie.
2, 3, 4, etc.), width and height. To save a ´given number and position
of tiddlers simply use the sidebar command: 'save layout', which
automatically saves all coordinates with one click. The command:
'restore layout' opens all DefaultTiddlers as formerly saved.
The 'Home' button is nothing than the 'restore layout' command- but
renamed.
To find any of the configuration tiddlers, plugins, stylesheet,
template etc. the tiddler [[Edit]] is for!
So simply click inside the table representing a TW layout on the first
'DefaultTiddlers' and above mentioned '__tiddlyDesktopLayout' tiddler
opens. Which, despite the warning, can also be edited manually. Even
if you messed it up completely - a click on the command 'save layout'
will overwrite it anyway completely again.
Is it possible to install TiddlyDesktop in a plain TW with normal
main- and sidemenus - and a normal behaviour of all the
standardelements like defaulttiddlers etc?
Except the DefaultTiddlers behaviour - I made a plain template some
time ago and you'll find it here:
http://wolfi.110mb.com/tiddlyDesktop.html
However, the new custom tiddlyDesktop template contains a tiddler
[[Switch]] which contains a number of scripts. One such scripts opens
the tiddlers listed with double brackets, just as DefaultTiddlers. For
example:
tiddler Switch##OpenGroup with: Home DefaultTiddlers
where:
1. parameter = button label
2. parameter = TiddlerTitle with bracketed list of tiddler titles
.. will open all tiddlers listed in the shadowed DefaultTiddlers
tiddler Switch##CloseOpenGroup with: Home DefaultTiddlers
.. before opening it will close all already displayed tiddlers.
Sorry for not having documented all scripts in this [[Switch]] tiddler
very well. Till I find the time you'll have to experiment, but often
the section heading makes it clear what the script in its section
does.
Btw TiDE-plugin doesn't seem to be installed in the TW even if the
TiDE window is present (and working)?? - so I don't know how to update
the plugin...
I wanted a very lightweight theme template, all plugins and the core
have been compressed. TidIDE itself I use by loading it with a
bookmarklet from my drive. See http://www.tiddlytools.com/#InstantBookmarklets
and the trancluded http://www.tiddlytools.com/#LoadRemotePlugin to see
how this is done. Adapt it to a subfolder on your drive, save
TidIDEPlugin with the file extension .js there, drag and use it from
your browser bookmarklet bar.
If file size is of no concern, just install the original plugin from
Eric:
http://www.tiddlytools.com/#TidIDEPlugin
UploadPlugin isn't installed either. However, since one can find in at
svn.tiddlywiki.org repository the bookmarklet is already installed: if
you scroll the [[Edit]] tiddler down you'll find tabs with Styles,
Plugins, on demand etc. simply click 'UploadPlugin' under 'on demand'
to have it loaded.
By the way, UploadPlugin isn't working with tiddlyDesktopBundle! To
upload with UploadPlugin you first have to add a systemConfigDisable
tag to tiddlyDesktopBundle, save and reload. Then load UploadPluging
from a remote location as described above, remove the
systemConfigDisable tag from the Bundle again to
[tw] Re: Success in combining treeview TiddlyDesktop and MoveableTW ... but ...
Some of the buttons don't seem to work - for instance the + and - in
the sidepanel and the hideTopmenu-button in the topmenu They
didn't seem to work in the original document either.
These buttons are transcluded bookmarklets, which substitute
TextAreaPlugin's ability to enlarge text boxes in edit mode. However,
I'm actually writting this tiddlyDesktop theme template for use with
'mediawiki unplugged', where mediawiki formated tiddlers don't display
scripts or bookmarklets in the tiddler toolbar correctly. In other non-
mediawiki tiddlers you'll find these bookmarklets in edit mode in the
toolbar anyway, and could delete those additional from the sidebar.
To display the TopMenu you have to find:
#topMenu{padding:2px;display:none}
in the 'Groundless' tiddler under it's MptwStyle section and delete:
display:none
The easist way to edit this section is again via the [[Edit]] tiddler,
scroll it down and click 'MptwStyle'.
I really like the ability to use moveable tiddlers - and
TiddlyDesktops quick response and intuitive way of handling them. Is
it possible to make it work with TspotPlugin/UploadPlugin and in a
more or less normal TW-document?
About a year ago I've been in contact with BidiX, who said he would
look into UploadPlugin's incompatibility with TiddlyDesktop as soon he
would find the time...
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[tw] Re: Success in combining treeview TiddlyDesktop and MoveableTW ... but ...
I really like the ability to use moveable tiddlers - and TiddlyDesktops quick response and intuitive way of handling them. Is it possible to make it work with TspotPlugin/UploadPlugin and in a more or less normal TW-document? To not getting frustrated later on, see the [[New Bugs]] tiddler of this 1 year old TiddlyDesktop adaptation: http://tiddlyhome.bidix.info/desk/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Success in combining treeview TiddlyDesktop and MoveableTW ... but ...
Some of the buttons don't seem to work - for instance the + and - in
the sidepanel and the hideTopmenu-button in the topmenu They
didn't seem to work in the original document either.
These buttons are transcluded bookmarklets, which substitute
TextAreaPlugin's ability to enlarge text boxes in edit mode. However,
I'm actually writting this tiddlyDesktop theme template for use with
'mediawiki unplugged', where mediawiki formated tiddlers don't display
scripts or bookmarklets in the tiddler toolbar correctly. In other non-
mediawiki tiddlers you'll find these bookmarklets in edit mode in the
toolbar anyway, and could delete those additional from the sidebar.
Just realized that the online version wasn't updated in this respect.
It does display the + and - in edit mode's toolbar now.
To display the TopMenu you have to find:
#topMenu{padding:2px;display:none}
in the 'Groundless' tiddler under it's MptwStyle section and delete:
display:none
The easist way to edit this section is again via the [[Edit]] tiddler,
scroll it down and click 'MptwStyle'.
Made the TopMenu visible by default now too. But have hidden the
MainMenu with a display:none due to an unresolved issue explained
below. Still, the MainManu can be toggled on from the TopMenu.
... - also not providing accurate
instruction yet.
To my excuse, originally I only uploaded this TW for getting an answer
to my still unanswered question in this thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/fd675674049820f5/b5a74f3c4a763ba5?lnk=gstq=z-index#b5a74f3c4a763ba5
Regards..
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