[tw] Re: Suggestions required - Attachments and their paths
I'm using FileDropPlugin, but with the custom handler and not the AttachFilePlugin. This allows me to save bookmarks (information links) using VIRTUAL paths: //MYPHOTOS/cx5123/dog-at-play.jpg where //MYPHOTOS can be translated to conform to whatever site you're on: file:///mnt/cdrom/cx5123/dog-at-play.jpg file:///e:/cx5123/dog-at-play.jpg file:///f:/cx5123/dog-at-play.jpg These Virtual paths are described in a configuration option, allowing the physical path to be set per whatever system you happen to be on. The other key concept is that drag-drop actions are determined by *where* you're dropping from as well as *what* you're dropping from. This way you can embed two types of information at once. Primarily, you can drag-drop thumbnails from a local directory, while simultaneously embedding information about the related full size images on a cdrom (the idea is that you can carry the thumbnails with you on a stick, but not reasonably the full-sized images). An idea for later, after I've gotten everything working smoothly, is to drag and drop say a thumbnail of a PDF, like: c:/data/thumbnails/personal/dog-at-play.pdf.png (notice the extension, indicating a PNG snapshot of a PDF file) and have it simultaneously find and embed links to the corresponding PDF: d:/data/paperporthome/personal/dog-at-play.pdf AND import into TW the accompanying text notes and/or OCR'd version of the PDF: d:/data/paperporthome/personal/dog-at-play.pdf.txt The thought here being that while embedding an entire PDF document is not scaleable, it is plausible to import some or all of the text of PDF documents for searching purposes. You can see in this case that the drag-drop needs to know about and handle 3 separate paths at once. Mark On Mar 4, 9:17 pm, skye riquelme riquelme.s...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All Hope I can jump in on this discussion. I am not clear on exactly what is happening. Is Mark using FileDropPlugin (and maye AttachFilePlugin as well) to drop files into a TW and then organise the list of tiddlers? I am reading that the actually files aren´t being dropped into the TW ( which would quickly blow it out to unusable size)...rather just a bookmark is being dragged and droppedhow is that down...I think I am missing something very fundamental here...HELP!! Thanks in Advance Skye Thanks Mark for your Life witoout FET explanation, very clear.almost inspires me to want to learn Javascript !!! ALMOST ...but thanks. On 4 Mar, 15:51, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Andy Did you change the tiddlers, that where generated by FileDropPlugin, by hand? If yes, my sugestion creates a lot of work and you should use an other one. If no, go on reading. I think you used the default template: /% !link [[%0|%1]] !end %/ which generates a link like you described. if you use the following it should create a relative link to the pdf files. /% !link [[%0|%3]] !end %/ eg: TiddlyWiki is on the stick (F:) the pdfs are in a subdirectory eg: F:/doc It should produce something like: [[DataFile 002 - General Note.pdf|./doc/DataFile 002 - General Note.pdf]] regards mario On Mar 4, 6:51 pm, Mark S. throa...@yahoo.com wrote: I've been working on a personal content management system, which I've written up here: http://marksbasement.tiddlyspot.com/index.html#[[Overview%20Of%20Document%20Management%20System]] Basically what I do, is create my own bookmarks when files are dragged/ dropped. There is a set of options that can be set to match pathways on the current machine. When the bookmarks are created, they use virtual drive/paths like: Thumb://CDS/20061204/fh04.jpg The applications that view these bookmarks then change the virtual path (//CDS in this case) into whatever drive is applicable per the configuration. This means that I can even view the same files on a linux system which uses very different pathing than does Windows. Since you already have 250 paths set up, you might want something quick to set up now, and pound out the convenience factors later. Using some judicious regex style replacements in your favorite advanced editor, you could edit the source of your TW document and change your pathways to something like: tiddler drivepath::dp with: /20061204/fh04.jpg where tiddler drivepath is something like: dp:[img[file:///d:/data/cds$1]] (sorry, I'm using examples from my own code so I can verify they work as I write.) Then just by changing tiddler drivepath, you can change all the pathways instantaneously. Mark On Mar 4, 6:59 am, AndyF andy.fra...@mansys.net wrote: Hi, Background I have set up a TiddlyWiki containing a series of help and knowledge base files for our team for use when they are on Customers sites. The TiddlyWiki has been distributed on a number of Memory Sticks and contains the html and a
[tw] Re: Suggestions required - Attachments and their paths
Hi Mark, Mario and Skye, Thank you for your replies. I am using the FileDropPlugin which basically just creates the tiddler with the link to pdf files. I am going to try the relative link way of adding the files (%3) so have actually deleted the linked tiddlers in preparation of starting again. Unfortunately my company only allows IE to be used so can not use FileDropPlugin until I get home and Firefox ! Will update you with my success / failure. BTW I have tried the AttachFilePlugin and I get the relevant attachment form to appear but it never creates a tiddler so not sure what I am doing wrong. Am I right in thinking this would create a thumbnail graphic of the first pdf sheet as well as the link while not a necessity , it would look good ! Best regards Andy On Mar 5, 2:36 pm, Mark S. throa...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm using FileDropPlugin, but with the custom handler and not the AttachFilePlugin. This allows me to save bookmarks (information links) using VIRTUAL paths: //MYPHOTOS/cx5123/dog-at-play.jpg where //MYPHOTOS can be translated to conform to whatever site you're on: file:///mnt/cdrom/cx5123/dog-at-play.jpg file:///e:/cx5123/dog-at-play.jpg file:///f:/cx5123/dog-at-play.jpg These Virtual paths are described in a configuration option, allowing the physical path to be set per whatever system you happen to be on. The other key concept is that drag-drop actions are determined by *where* you're dropping from as well as *what* you're dropping from. This way you can embed two types of information at once. Primarily, you can drag-drop thumbnails from a local directory, while simultaneously embedding information about the related full size images on a cdrom (the idea is that you can carry the thumbnails with you on a stick, but not reasonably the full-sized images). An idea for later, after I've gotten everything working smoothly, is to drag and drop say a thumbnail of a PDF, like: c:/data/thumbnails/personal/dog-at-play.pdf.png (notice the extension, indicating a PNG snapshot of a PDF file) and have it simultaneously find and embed links to the corresponding PDF: d:/data/paperporthome/personal/dog-at-play.pdf AND import into TW the accompanying text notes and/or OCR'd version of the PDF: d:/data/paperporthome/personal/dog-at-play.pdf.txt The thought here being that while embedding an entire PDF document is not scaleable, it is plausible to import some or all of the text of PDF documents for searching purposes. You can see in this case that the drag-drop needs to know about and handle 3 separate paths at once. Mark On Mar 4, 9:17 pm, skye riquelme riquelme.s...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All Hope I can jump in on this discussion. I am not clear on exactly what is happening. Is Mark using FileDropPlugin (and maye AttachFilePlugin as well) to drop files into a TW and then organise the list of tiddlers? I am reading that the actually files aren´t being dropped into the TW ( which would quickly blow it out to unusable size)...rather just a bookmark is being dragged and droppedhow is that down...I think I am missing something very fundamental here...HELP!! Thanks in Advance Skye Thanks Mark for your Life witoout FET explanation, very clear.almost inspires me to want to learn Javascript !!! ALMOST ...but thanks. On 4 Mar, 15:51, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Andy Did you change the tiddlers, that where generated by FileDropPlugin, by hand? If yes, my sugestion creates a lot of work and you should use an other one. If no, go on reading. I think you used the default template: /% !link [[%0|%1]] !end %/ which generates a link like you described. if you use the following it should create a relative link to the pdf files. /% !link [[%0|%3]] !end %/ eg: TiddlyWiki is on the stick (F:) the pdfs are in a subdirectory eg: F:/doc It should produce something like: [[DataFile 002 - General Note.pdf|./doc/DataFile 002 - General Note.pdf]] regards mario On Mar 4, 6:51 pm, Mark S. throa...@yahoo.com wrote: I've been working on a personal content management system, which I've written up here: http://marksbasement.tiddlyspot.com/index.html#[[Overview%20Of%20Document%20Management%20System]] Basically what I do, is create my own bookmarks when files are dragged/ dropped. There is a set of options that can be set to match pathways on the current machine. When the bookmarks are created, they use virtual drive/paths like: Thumb://CDS/20061204/fh04.jpg The applications that view these bookmarks then change the virtual path (//CDS in this case) into whatever drive is applicable per the configuration. This means that I can even view the same files on a linux system which uses very different pathing than does Windows. Since you already have 250 paths set up, you might want
[tw] Re: Suggestions required - Attachments and their paths
If I had the talent, I would rewrite Eric's ImagePathPlugin to make it work with AttachFilePlugin, making it search for different possible paths for fileattachments... Is it a feasible challenge - Eric?? Regards Måns Mårtensson On 4 Mar., 15:59, AndyF andy.fra...@mansys.net wrote: Hi, Background I have set up a TiddlyWiki containing a series of help and knowledge base files for our team for use when they are on Customers sites. The TiddlyWiki has been distributed on a number of Memory Sticks and contains the html and a directory of approximately 250 pdf files. I have used the FileDropPlugin and this has been very successful for creating the Tiddlers. In creating the tiddlers I did this from my memory stick with all the files etc perfectly organised on the stick. I then replicated the stick to the other sticks. Tiddlers The Tiddlers containing the attachments are coded as follows : [[DataFile 002 - General Note.pdf|file:///F:/TiddlyData/DataFile 002 - General Note.pdf]] The problem. When the users are using the TiddlyWiki they are fine but in some cases they cannot open the attachments. This is because their PC / Laptop / Customers PC has assigned the memory stick a different Drive letter so instead of Drive F: as it was for me they are now on drive H:. Question(s) 1. Does anyone know if there is a way to not include the Drive letter into the path possibly replacing it with a wildcard so it searches rather than errors. 2. Is there a way to find and replace (quickly) all the data referring to file:///F:/ with the user being able to manually replace file:///F:/ with (for example) file:///H:/. 3. Could 2 above be automated so that there is a Tiddler on start up saying What is the Drive Letter ? You enter H and file:///F:/ is automatically changed to file:///H:/ Your help and advice would be appreciated. Andy F -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Suggestions required - Attachments and their paths
I've been working on a personal content management system, which I've written up here: http://marksbasement.tiddlyspot.com/index.html#[[Overview%20Of%20Document%20Management%20System]] Basically what I do, is create my own bookmarks when files are dragged/ dropped. There is a set of options that can be set to match pathways on the current machine. When the bookmarks are created, they use virtual drive/paths like: Thumb://CDS/20061204/fh04.jpg The applications that view these bookmarks then change the virtual path (//CDS in this case) into whatever drive is applicable per the configuration. This means that I can even view the same files on a linux system which uses very different pathing than does Windows. Since you already have 250 paths set up, you might want something quick to set up now, and pound out the convenience factors later. Using some judicious regex style replacements in your favorite advanced editor, you could edit the source of your TW document and change your pathways to something like: tiddler drivepath::dp with: /20061204/fh04.jpg where tiddler drivepath is something like: dp:[img[file:///d:/data/cds$1]] (sorry, I'm using examples from my own code so I can verify they work as I write.) Then just by changing tiddler drivepath, you can change all the pathways instantaneously. Mark On Mar 4, 6:59 am, AndyF andy.fra...@mansys.net wrote: Hi, Background I have set up a TiddlyWiki containing a series of help and knowledge base files for our team for use when they are on Customers sites. The TiddlyWiki has been distributed on a number of Memory Sticks and contains the html and a directory of approximately 250 pdf files. I have used the FileDropPlugin and this has been very successful for creating the Tiddlers. In creating the tiddlers I did this from my memory stick with all the files etc perfectly organised on the stick. I then replicated the stick to the other sticks. Tiddlers The Tiddlers containing the attachments are coded as follows : [[DataFile 002 - General Note.pdf|file:///F:/TiddlyData/DataFile 002 - General Note.pdf]] The problem. When the users are using the TiddlyWiki they are fine but in some cases they cannot open the attachments. This is because their PC / Laptop / Customers PC has assigned the memory stick a different Drive letter so instead of Drive F: as it was for me they are now on drive H:. Question(s) 1. Does anyone know if there is a way to not include the Drive letter into the path possibly replacing it with a wildcard so it searches rather than errors. 2. Is there a way to find and replace (quickly) all the data referring to file:///F:/ with the user being able to manually replace file:///F:/ with (for example) file:///H:/. 3. Could 2 above be automated so that there is a Tiddler on start up saying What is the Drive Letter ? You enter H and file:///F:/ is automatically changed to file:///H:/ Your help and advice would be appreciated. Andy F -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Suggestions required - Attachments and their paths
Hi All Hope I can jump in on this discussion. I am not clear on exactly what is happening. Is Mark using FileDropPlugin (and maye AttachFilePlugin as well) to drop files into a TW and then organise the list of tiddlers? I am reading that the actually files aren´t being dropped into the TW ( which would quickly blow it out to unusable size)...rather just a bookmark is being dragged and droppedhow is that down...I think I am missing something very fundamental here...HELP!! Thanks in Advance Skye Thanks Mark for your Life witoout FET explanation, very clear.almost inspires me to want to learn Javascript !!! ALMOST ...but thanks. On 4 Mar, 15:51, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Andy Did you change the tiddlers, that where generated by FileDropPlugin, by hand? If yes, my sugestion creates a lot of work and you should use an other one. If no, go on reading. I think you used the default template: /% !link [[%0|%1]] !end %/ which generates a link like you described. if you use the following it should create a relative link to the pdf files. /% !link [[%0|%3]] !end %/ eg: TiddlyWiki is on the stick (F:) the pdfs are in a subdirectory eg: F:/doc It should produce something like: [[DataFile 002 - General Note.pdf|./doc/DataFile 002 - General Note.pdf]] regards mario On Mar 4, 6:51 pm, Mark S. throa...@yahoo.com wrote: I've been working on a personal content management system, which I've written up here: http://marksbasement.tiddlyspot.com/index.html#[[Overview%20Of%20Document%20Management%20System]] Basically what I do, is create my own bookmarks when files are dragged/ dropped. There is a set of options that can be set to match pathways on the current machine. When the bookmarks are created, they use virtual drive/paths like: Thumb://CDS/20061204/fh04.jpg The applications that view these bookmarks then change the virtual path (//CDS in this case) into whatever drive is applicable per the configuration. This means that I can even view the same files on a linux system which uses very different pathing than does Windows. Since you already have 250 paths set up, you might want something quick to set up now, and pound out the convenience factors later. Using some judicious regex style replacements in your favorite advanced editor, you could edit the source of your TW document and change your pathways to something like: tiddler drivepath::dp with: /20061204/fh04.jpg where tiddler drivepath is something like: dp:[img[file:///d:/data/cds$1]] (sorry, I'm using examples from my own code so I can verify they work as I write.) Then just by changing tiddler drivepath, you can change all the pathways instantaneously. Mark On Mar 4, 6:59 am, AndyF andy.fra...@mansys.net wrote: Hi, Background I have set up a TiddlyWiki containing a series of help and knowledge base files for our team for use when they are on Customers sites. The TiddlyWiki has been distributed on a number of Memory Sticks and contains the html and a directory of approximately 250 pdf files. I have used the FileDropPlugin and this has been very successful for creating the Tiddlers. In creating the tiddlers I did this from my memory stick with all the files etc perfectly organised on the stick. I then replicated the stick to the other sticks. Tiddlers The Tiddlers containing the attachments are coded as follows : [[DataFile 002 - General Note.pdf|file:///F:/TiddlyData/DataFile 002 - General Note.pdf]] The problem. When the users are using the TiddlyWiki they are fine but in some cases they cannot open the attachments. This is because their PC / Laptop / Customers PC has assigned the memory stick a different Drive letter so instead of Drive F: as it was for me they are now on drive H:. Question(s) 1. Does anyone know if there is a way to not include the Drive letter into the path possibly replacing it with a wildcard so it searches rather than errors. 2. Is there a way to find and replace (quickly) all the data referring to file:///F:/ with the user being able to manually replace file:///F:/ with (for example) file:///H:/. 3. Could 2 above be automated so that there is a Tiddler on start up saying What is the Drive Letter ? You enter H and file:///F:/ is automatically changed to file:///H:/ Your help and advice would be appreciated. Andy F -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
