Hi Mark, Mario and Skye,

Thank you for your replies. I am using the FileDropPlugin which
basically just creates the tiddler with the link to pdf files. I am
going to try the relative link way of adding the files (%3) so have
actually deleted the linked tiddlers in preparation of starting again.

Unfortunately my company only allows IE to be used so can not use
FileDropPlugin until I get home and Firefox !

Will update you with my success / failure.

BTW I have tried the AttachFilePlugin and I get the relevant
attachment form to appear but it never creates a tiddler so not sure
what I am doing wrong. Am I right in thinking this would create a
thumbnail graphic of the first pdf sheet as well as the link while not
a necessity , it would look good !

Best regards

Andy

On Mar 5, 2:36 pm, "Mark S." <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm using FileDropPlugin, but with the custom handler and not the
> AttachFilePlugin. This allows me to save bookmarks (information &
> links) using VIRTUAL paths:
>
>   //MYPHOTOS/cx5123/dog-at-play.jpg
>
> where //MYPHOTOS can be translated to conform to whatever site you're
> on:
>
>   file:///mnt/cdrom/cx5123/dog-at-play.jpg
>   file:///e:/cx5123/dog-at-play.jpg
>   file:///f:/cx5123/dog-at-play.jpg
>
> These Virtual paths are described in a configuration option, allowing
> the physical path to be set per whatever system you happen to be on.
>
> The other key concept is that drag-drop actions are determined by
> *where* you're dropping from as well as *what* you're dropping from.
> This way you can embed two types of information at once. Primarily,
> you can drag-drop thumbnails from a local directory, while
> simultaneously embedding information about the related full size
> images on a cdrom (the idea is that you can carry the thumbnails with
> you on a stick, but not reasonably the full-sized images).
>
> An idea for later, after I've gotten everything working smoothly, is
> to drag and drop say a thumbnail of a PDF, like:
>
>    c:/data/thumbnails/personal/dog-at-play.pdf.png
>
> (notice the extension, indicating a PNG snapshot of a PDF file) and
> have it simultaneously find and embed links to the corresponding PDF:
>
>    d:/data/paperporthome/personal/dog-at-play.pdf
>
> AND import into TW the accompanying text notes and/or OCR'd version of
> the PDF:
>
>    d:/data/paperporthome/personal/dog-at-play.pdf.txt
>
> The thought here being that while embedding an entire PDF document is
> not scaleable, it is plausible to import some or all of the text of
> PDF documents for searching purposes.
>
> You can see in this case that the drag-drop needs to know about and
> handle 3 separate paths at once.
>
> Mark
>
> On Mar 4, 9:17 pm, skye riquelme <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi All
>
> > Hope I can jump in on this discussion. I am not clear on exactly what
> > is happening. Is Mark using FileDropPlugin (and maye AttachFilePlugin
> > as well) to drop files into a TW and then organise the list of
> > tiddlers? I am reading that the actually files aren´t being dropped
> > into the TW ( which would quickly blow it out to unusable
> > size)...rather just a bookmark is being "dragged and dropped"....how
> > is that down...I think I am missing something very fundamental
> > here...HELP!!
>
> > Thanks in Advance
> > Skye
>
> > Thanks Mark for your "Life witoout FET" explanation, very
> > clear.....almost inspires me to want to learn Javascript !!!
> > ALMOST ...but thanks.
>
> > On 4 Mar, 15:51, PMario <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Hi Andy
>
> > > Did you change the tiddlers, that where generated by FileDropPlugin,
> > > by hand? If yes, my sugestion creates a lot of work and you should use
> > > an other one.
>
> > > If no, go on reading.
>
> > > I think you used the default template:
> > > /%
> > > !link
> > > [[%0|%1]]
> > > !end
> > > %/
> > > which generates a link like you described.
>
> > > if you use the following it should create a relative link to the pdf
> > > files.
> > > /%
> > > !link
> > > [[%0|%3]]
> > > !end
> > > %/
>
> > > eg:
> > > TiddlyWiki is on the stick (F:)
> > > the pdfs are in a subdirectory eg: F:/doc
>
> > > It should produce something like:
> > > [[DataFile 002 - General Note.pdf|./doc/DataFile 002 - General
> > > Note.pdf]]
>
> > > regards mario
>
> > > On Mar 4, 6:51 pm, "Mark S." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I've been working on a personal content management system, which I've
> > > > written up here:
>
> > > >http://marksbasement.tiddlyspot.com/index.html#[[Overview%20Of%20Document%20Management%20System]]
>
> > > > Basically what I do, is create my own bookmarks when files are dragged/
> > > > dropped. There is a set of options that can be set to match pathways
> > > > on the current machine. When the bookmarks are created, they use
> > > > virtual drive/paths like:
>
> > > >   Thumb://CDS/20061204/fh000004.jpg
>
> > > > The applications that view these bookmarks then change the virtual
> > > > path (//CDS in this case) into whatever drive is applicable per the
> > > > configuration. This means that I can even view the same files on a
> > > > linux system which uses very different pathing than does Windows.
>
> > > > Since you already have 250 paths set up, you might want something
> > > > quick to set up now, and pound out the convenience factors later.
> > > > Using some judicious regex style replacements in your favorite
> > > > advanced editor, you could edit the source of your TW document and
> > > > change your pathways to something like:
>
> > > >   <<tiddler "drivepath::dp" with: "/20061204/fh000004.jpg">>
>
> > > > where tiddler drivepath is something like:
>
> > > >   dp:[img[file:///d:/data/cds$1]]
>
> > > > (sorry, I'm using examples from my own code so I can verify they work
> > > > as I write.) Then just by changing tiddler drivepath, you can change
> > > > all the pathways instantaneously.
>
> > > > Mark
>
> > > > On Mar 4, 6:59 am, AndyF <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Hi,
>
> > > > > Background
> > > > > I have set up a TiddlyWiki containing a series of help and knowledge
> > > > > base files for our team for use when they are on Customers sites. The
> > > > > TiddlyWiki has been distributed on a number of Memory Sticks and
> > > > > contains the html and a directory of approximately 250 pdf files. I
> > > > > have used the FileDropPlugin and this has been very successful for
> > > > > creating the Tiddlers. In creating the tiddlers I did this from my
> > > > > memory stick with all the files etc perfectly organised on the stick.
> > > > > I then replicated the stick to the other sticks.
>
> > > > > Tiddlers
> > > > > The Tiddlers containing the attachments are coded as follows :
>
> > > > > [[DataFile 002 - General Note.pdf|file:///F:/TiddlyData/DataFile 002 -
> > > > > General Note.pdf]]
>
> > > > > The problem.
> > > > > When the users are using the TiddlyWiki they are fine but in some
> > > > > cases they cannot open the attachments. This is because their PC /
> > > > > Laptop / Customers PC has assigned the memory stick a different Drive
> > > > > letter so instead of Drive F: as it was for me they are now on drive
> > > > > H:.
>
> > > > > Question(s)
> > > > > 1. Does anyone know if there is a way to not include the Drive letter
> > > > > into the path possibly replacing it with a wildcard so it searches
> > > > > rather than errors.
> > > > > 2. Is there a way to find and replace (quickly) all the data referring
> > > > > to file:///F:/ with the user being able to manually replace 
> > > > > file:///F:/
> > > > > with (for example) file:///H:/.
> > > > > 3. Could 2 above be automated so that there is a Tiddler on start up
> > > > > saying "What is the Drive Letter ?" You enter H and file:///F:/ is
> > > > > automatically changed to file:///H:/
>
> > > > > Your help and advice would be appreciated.
>
> > > > > Andy F- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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