subject:"\[tw5\] Re\: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags\?"

[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

2021-07-14 Thread Mike Andyl

Cool! Thank you! To avoid conflict with MenuBar (z 850), it is better to 
set slightly smaller.
среда, 14 июля 2021 г. в 18:34:58 UTC+3, Brian Radspinner: 

> Put the following code in your stylesheet:
>
> *.tc-tiddler-edit-frame { z-index: 1000 !important; }*
>
> When a tiddler goes in draft mode, it will have this class automatically 
> included. Putting the edit-frame to a z-index of 1000 should keep it above 
> any other tiddlers in view mode with z-indexes around 200. 
>
> On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 3:28:11 AM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> and how can I do it?
>>
>> среда, 14 июля 2021 г. в 03:32:14 UTC+3, Brian Radspinner: 
>>
>>> Try bumping up the z-index of the tiddler being edited:
>>>
>>> .tc-tiddler-edit-frame { z-index: 1000 !important; }
>>>
>>> The tiddler being edited will have a higher much higher z-index than all 
>>> the other tiddlers still in view mode with z-index around 200.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 3:14:44 PM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 "I believe  z index of 1000"
 No, there is already 1000 in the parent element.

 --
 Let's take a look at the other side.

 /* TAG SELECTOR */
 .tc-block-tags-dropdown{
 white-space: normal;
 min-width: 620px !important;
 }
 .tc-block-tags-dropdown a {
 display: inline-block !important;
 padding: 4px 4px 4px 4px !important;
 }
 .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
position: sticky;
height: 30em;
overflow-y: auto;
 }
 Almost not bad, but the first line of the first tag is always twitching.
 https://i.imgur.com/aYCj77Z.jpg
 https://i.imgur.com/uRy5uDx.jpg
 Maybe try to get rid of this?
 I fiddled with the CSS for a long time, but nothing came of it better. 
 Any ideas?

 среда, 14 июля 2021 г. в 00:58:50 UTC+3, TW Tones: 

> I believe  z index of 1000 or 1500 should stop this. 
>
> Tones
>
> On Wednesday, 14 July 2021 at 03:07:30 UTC+10 Brian Radspinner wrote:
>
>> I don't think that simple CSS can solve this, since each tiddler 
>> frame is given a higher z-index as you go up the story river; so no 
>> matter 
>> what you set, each child will overlap all the tiddler elements farther 
>> down 
>> the river. You may have to just size the menu to not overlap with the 
>> story 
>> river, give the width a % to re-size with the window.
>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 1:03:15 AM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> https://i.imgur.com/Q1wXDdQ.jpg
>>> Turn on Sticky titles 
>>> 
>>>   
>>> -  yes 
>>>
>>> /* TAG SELECTOR */
>>>
>>> .tc-block-tags-dropdown{
>>> white-space: normal;
>>> min-width: 620px !important;
>>> }
>>> .tc-block-tags-dropdown a {
>>> display: inline-block !important;
>>> padding: 4px 4px 4px 4px !important;
>>> }
>>> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>>>position: fixed;
>>>top: 100px;
>>>right: 40px;
>>>bottom: 200px;
>>>width: 30em;
>>>overflow-y: auto;
>>> }
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> вторник, 13 июля 2021 г. в 03:15:23 UTC+3, Brian Radspinner: 
>>>
 That's interesting. Testing at TW.com and in my own TW, the menu 
 floats above other tiddlers.

 Do you have any other CSS positioning for .tc-tiddler-frame, 
 .tc-tiddler-view-frame, or .tc-tiddler-edit-frame?


 On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:43:01 PM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Everything would be fine, but I discovered a new problem. This 
> tags window is covered by other entries. It can be fixed? I've 
> experimented 
> with z-index but to no avail.
> https://i.imgur.com/CZOVn6A.jpg
> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 16:48:00 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>
>> or even overflow-y: auto;
>>
>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:37:08 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>
>>> and may be add *overflow: scroll;*  :))
>>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:30:31 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>>
 I don't know why your post was deleted. Possibly a spam error! 
 I also had this a couple of days ago :(
 You wrote about CSS

 .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
position: fixed;
top: 0;
right: 0;
bottom: 0;
width: 30em;
 }

 I changed and now I really like it!

 .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
position: fixed;
top: 100px;

[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

2021-07-14 Thread Charlie Veniot

G'day Mike,

I was in a coding mood this morning.  Just in case it is useful to you, 
check out (I started a different thread in case their are 
questions/ideas/comments) Code Patterns: A Tag Selector Gadget 
.

If that's of any interest of others, and since Google Groups can be a 
little bit hard to search sometimes, cross-linking the two threads is nice 
to find one thread via the other.

Cheers !
On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 6:10:15 PM UTC-3 miket...@gmail.com wrote:

> Now the usual view is very inconvenient when you have a lot of tags and 
> need to scroll and scroll down the page. Plus, the selected tags are still 
> on the list and continue to distract.
>
> This raises two questions?
>
> 1. How can I make the selection of tags more compact so that I don't have 
> to scroll down the page?
>
> 2. And how to mark tags that are already assigned. Ideally remove from the 
> list, but it's probably difficult. Maybe you can at least change the color 
> to a less noticeable?
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Nice option with checkboxes here
> https://i.imgur.com/gxJm0Tw.jpg
> http://zemox.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> But I didn't understand how he did it, I installed his plugins and nothing 
> changed.

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[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

2021-07-14 Thread Charlie Veniot

G'day Mike,

I was in a coding mood this morning.  So for fun:

In case of any use to you, check this out and see what you think:  Code 
Patterns: A Tag Selector Gadget 


Cheers !

On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 6:10:15 PM UTC-3 miket...@gmail.com wrote:

> Now the usual view is very inconvenient when you have a lot of tags and 
> need to scroll and scroll down the page. Plus, the selected tags are still 
> on the list and continue to distract.
>
> This raises two questions?
>
> 1. How can I make the selection of tags more compact so that I don't have 
> to scroll down the page?
>
> 2. And how to mark tags that are already assigned. Ideally remove from the 
> list, but it's probably difficult. Maybe you can at least change the color 
> to a less noticeable?
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Nice option with checkboxes here
> https://i.imgur.com/gxJm0Tw.jpg
> http://zemox.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> But I didn't understand how he did it, I installed his plugins and nothing 
> changed.

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[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

2021-07-14 Thread Brian Radspinner

Put the following code in your stylesheet:

*.tc-tiddler-edit-frame { z-index: 1000 !important; }*

When a tiddler goes in draft mode, it will have this class automatically 
included. Putting the edit-frame to a z-index of 1000 should keep it above 
any other tiddlers in view mode with z-indexes around 200. 

On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 3:28:11 AM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:

> and how can I do it?
>
> среда, 14 июля 2021 г. в 03:32:14 UTC+3, Brian Radspinner: 
>
>> Try bumping up the z-index of the tiddler being edited:
>>
>> .tc-tiddler-edit-frame { z-index: 1000 !important; }
>>
>> The tiddler being edited will have a higher much higher z-index than all 
>> the other tiddlers still in view mode with z-index around 200.
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 3:14:44 PM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> "I believe  z index of 1000"
>>> No, there is already 1000 in the parent element.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Let's take a look at the other side.
>>>
>>> /* TAG SELECTOR */
>>> .tc-block-tags-dropdown{
>>> white-space: normal;
>>> min-width: 620px !important;
>>> }
>>> .tc-block-tags-dropdown a {
>>> display: inline-block !important;
>>> padding: 4px 4px 4px 4px !important;
>>> }
>>> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>>>position: sticky;
>>>height: 30em;
>>>overflow-y: auto;
>>> }
>>> Almost not bad, but the first line of the first tag is always twitching.
>>> https://i.imgur.com/aYCj77Z.jpg
>>> https://i.imgur.com/uRy5uDx.jpg
>>> Maybe try to get rid of this?
>>> I fiddled with the CSS for a long time, but nothing came of it better. 
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> среда, 14 июля 2021 г. в 00:58:50 UTC+3, TW Tones: 
>>>
 I believe  z index of 1000 or 1500 should stop this. 

 Tones

 On Wednesday, 14 July 2021 at 03:07:30 UTC+10 Brian Radspinner wrote:

> I don't think that simple CSS can solve this, since each tiddler frame 
> is given a higher z-index as you go up the story river; so no matter what 
> you set, each child will overlap all the tiddler elements farther down 
> the 
> river. You may have to just size the menu to not overlap with the story 
> river, give the width a % to re-size with the window.
> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 1:03:15 AM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> https://i.imgur.com/Q1wXDdQ.jpg
>> Turn on Sticky titles 
>> 
>>   
>> -  yes 
>>
>> /* TAG SELECTOR */
>>
>> .tc-block-tags-dropdown{
>> white-space: normal;
>> min-width: 620px !important;
>> }
>> .tc-block-tags-dropdown a {
>> display: inline-block !important;
>> padding: 4px 4px 4px 4px !important;
>> }
>> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>>position: fixed;
>>top: 100px;
>>right: 40px;
>>bottom: 200px;
>>width: 30em;
>>overflow-y: auto;
>> }
>>
>>
>>
>> вторник, 13 июля 2021 г. в 03:15:23 UTC+3, Brian Radspinner: 
>>
>>> That's interesting. Testing at TW.com and in my own TW, the menu 
>>> floats above other tiddlers.
>>>
>>> Do you have any other CSS positioning for .tc-tiddler-frame, 
>>> .tc-tiddler-view-frame, or .tc-tiddler-edit-frame?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:43:01 PM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Everything would be fine, but I discovered a new problem. This tags 
 window is covered by other entries. It can be fixed? I've experimented 
 with 
 z-index but to no avail.
 https://i.imgur.com/CZOVn6A.jpg
 воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 16:48:00 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 

> or even overflow-y: auto;
>
> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:37:08 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>
>> and may be add *overflow: scroll;*  :))
>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:30:31 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>
>>> I don't know why your post was deleted. Possibly a spam error! I 
>>> also had this a couple of days ago :(
>>> You wrote about CSS
>>>
>>> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>>>position: fixed;
>>>top: 0;
>>>right: 0;
>>>bottom: 0;
>>>width: 30em;
>>> }
>>>
>>> I changed and now I really like it!
>>>
>>> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>>>position: fixed;
>>>top: 100px;
>>>right: 40px;
>>>bottom: 200px;
>>>width: 30em;
>>> }
>>>
>>> Now you can just poke at the tags, the already selected ones are 
>>> hidden and do not distract, and the window does not jump. And you 
>>> don't 
>>> have to search

[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

2021-07-14 Thread Mike Andyl

and how can I do it?

среда, 14 июля 2021 г. в 03:32:14 UTC+3, Brian Radspinner: 

> Try bumping up the z-index of the tiddler being edited:
>
> .tc-tiddler-edit-frame { z-index: 1000 !important; }
>
> The tiddler being edited will have a higher much higher z-index than all 
> the other tiddlers still in view mode with z-index around 200.
>
> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 3:14:44 PM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> "I believe  z index of 1000"
>> No, there is already 1000 in the parent element.
>>
>> --
>> Let's take a look at the other side.
>>
>> /* TAG SELECTOR */
>> .tc-block-tags-dropdown{
>> white-space: normal;
>> min-width: 620px !important;
>> }
>> .tc-block-tags-dropdown a {
>> display: inline-block !important;
>> padding: 4px 4px 4px 4px !important;
>> }
>> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>>position: sticky;
>>height: 30em;
>>overflow-y: auto;
>> }
>> Almost not bad, but the first line of the first tag is always twitching.
>> https://i.imgur.com/aYCj77Z.jpg
>> https://i.imgur.com/uRy5uDx.jpg
>> Maybe try to get rid of this?
>> I fiddled with the CSS for a long time, but nothing came of it better. 
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> среда, 14 июля 2021 г. в 00:58:50 UTC+3, TW Tones: 
>>
>>> I believe  z index of 1000 or 1500 should stop this. 
>>>
>>> Tones
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 14 July 2021 at 03:07:30 UTC+10 Brian Radspinner wrote:
>>>
 I don't think that simple CSS can solve this, since each tiddler frame 
 is given a higher z-index as you go up the story river; so no matter what 
 you set, each child will overlap all the tiddler elements farther down the 
 river. You may have to just size the menu to not overlap with the story 
 river, give the width a % to re-size with the window.
 On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 1:03:15 AM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:

> https://i.imgur.com/Q1wXDdQ.jpg
> Turn on Sticky titles 
> 
>   
> -  yes 
>
> /* TAG SELECTOR */
>
> .tc-block-tags-dropdown{
> white-space: normal;
> min-width: 620px !important;
> }
> .tc-block-tags-dropdown a {
> display: inline-block !important;
> padding: 4px 4px 4px 4px !important;
> }
> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>position: fixed;
>top: 100px;
>right: 40px;
>bottom: 200px;
>width: 30em;
>overflow-y: auto;
> }
>
>
>
> вторник, 13 июля 2021 г. в 03:15:23 UTC+3, Brian Radspinner: 
>
>> That's interesting. Testing at TW.com and in my own TW, the menu 
>> floats above other tiddlers.
>>
>> Do you have any other CSS positioning for .tc-tiddler-frame, 
>> .tc-tiddler-view-frame, or .tc-tiddler-edit-frame?
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:43:01 PM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Everything would be fine, but I discovered a new problem. This tags 
>>> window is covered by other entries. It can be fixed? I've experimented 
>>> with 
>>> z-index but to no avail.
>>> https://i.imgur.com/CZOVn6A.jpg
>>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 16:48:00 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>>
 or even overflow-y: auto;

 воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:37:08 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 

> and may be add *overflow: scroll;*  :))
> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:30:31 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>
>> I don't know why your post was deleted. Possibly a spam error! I 
>> also had this a couple of days ago :(
>> You wrote about CSS
>>
>> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>>position: fixed;
>>top: 0;
>>right: 0;
>>bottom: 0;
>>width: 30em;
>> }
>>
>> I changed and now I really like it!
>>
>> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>>position: fixed;
>>top: 100px;
>>right: 40px;
>>bottom: 200px;
>>width: 30em;
>> }
>>
>> Now you can just poke at the tags, the already selected ones are 
>> hidden and do not distract, and the window does not jump. And you 
>> don't 
>> have to search again every time.
>> Not bad and very convenient!
>>
>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:56:13 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>
>>> Okay, but the last problem remains. 
>>> How to make *popup **tag-picker *not move after clicking on the 
>>> tag, only in the vertical direction. It doesn't have to jump to a 
>>> different 
>>> place every time!
>>> This is how it works
>>> http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>
>>> This is very convenient

[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

2021-07-13 Thread Brian Radspinner

Try bumping up the z-index of the tiddler being edited:

.tc-tiddler-edit-frame { z-index: 1000 !important; }

The tiddler being edited will have a higher much higher z-index than all 
the other tiddlers still in view mode with z-index around 200.

On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 3:14:44 PM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:

> "I believe  z index of 1000"
> No, there is already 1000 in the parent element.
>
> --
> Let's take a look at the other side.
>
> /* TAG SELECTOR */
> .tc-block-tags-dropdown{
> white-space: normal;
> min-width: 620px !important;
> }
> .tc-block-tags-dropdown a {
> display: inline-block !important;
> padding: 4px 4px 4px 4px !important;
> }
> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>position: sticky;
>height: 30em;
>overflow-y: auto;
> }
> Almost not bad, but the first line of the first tag is always twitching.
> https://i.imgur.com/aYCj77Z.jpg
> https://i.imgur.com/uRy5uDx.jpg
> Maybe try to get rid of this?
> I fiddled with the CSS for a long time, but nothing came of it better. Any 
> ideas?
>
> среда, 14 июля 2021 г. в 00:58:50 UTC+3, TW Tones: 
>
>> I believe  z index of 1000 or 1500 should stop this. 
>>
>> Tones
>>
>> On Wednesday, 14 July 2021 at 03:07:30 UTC+10 Brian Radspinner wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think that simple CSS can solve this, since each tiddler frame 
>>> is given a higher z-index as you go up the story river; so no matter what 
>>> you set, each child will overlap all the tiddler elements farther down the 
>>> river. You may have to just size the menu to not overlap with the story 
>>> river, give the width a % to re-size with the window.
>>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 1:03:15 AM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 https://i.imgur.com/Q1wXDdQ.jpg
 Turn on Sticky titles 
 
   
 -  yes 

 /* TAG SELECTOR */

 .tc-block-tags-dropdown{
 white-space: normal;
 min-width: 620px !important;
 }
 .tc-block-tags-dropdown a {
 display: inline-block !important;
 padding: 4px 4px 4px 4px !important;
 }
 .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
position: fixed;
top: 100px;
right: 40px;
bottom: 200px;
width: 30em;
overflow-y: auto;
 }



 вторник, 13 июля 2021 г. в 03:15:23 UTC+3, Brian Radspinner: 

> That's interesting. Testing at TW.com and in my own TW, the menu 
> floats above other tiddlers.
>
> Do you have any other CSS positioning for .tc-tiddler-frame, 
> .tc-tiddler-view-frame, or .tc-tiddler-edit-frame?
>
>
> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:43:01 PM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Everything would be fine, but I discovered a new problem. This tags 
>> window is covered by other entries. It can be fixed? I've experimented 
>> with 
>> z-index but to no avail.
>> https://i.imgur.com/CZOVn6A.jpg
>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 16:48:00 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>
>>> or even overflow-y: auto;
>>>
>>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:37:08 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>>
 and may be add *overflow: scroll;*  :))
 воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:30:31 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 

> I don't know why your post was deleted. Possibly a spam error! I 
> also had this a couple of days ago :(
> You wrote about CSS
>
> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>position: fixed;
>top: 0;
>right: 0;
>bottom: 0;
>width: 30em;
> }
>
> I changed and now I really like it!
>
> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>position: fixed;
>top: 100px;
>right: 40px;
>bottom: 200px;
>width: 30em;
> }
>
> Now you can just poke at the tags, the already selected ones are 
> hidden and do not distract, and the window does not jump. And you 
> don't 
> have to search again every time.
> Not bad and very convenient!
>
> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:56:13 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>
>> Okay, but the last problem remains. 
>> How to make *popup **tag-picker *not move after clicking on the 
>> tag, only in the vertical direction. It doesn't have to jump to a 
>> different 
>> place every time!
>> This is how it works
>> http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> This is very convenient when you do not need to search for the 
>> next tag every time. It is strange that such an important part is in 
>> such a 
>> terrible state!
>>
>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:29:12 UTC+3,

[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

2021-07-13 Thread Mike Andyl

"I believe  z index of 1000"
No, there is already 1000 in the parent element.

--
Let's take a look at the other side.

/* TAG SELECTOR */
.tc-block-tags-dropdown{
white-space: normal;
min-width: 620px !important;
}
.tc-block-tags-dropdown a {
display: inline-block !important;
padding: 4px 4px 4px 4px !important;
}
.tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
   position: sticky;
   height: 30em;
   overflow-y: auto;
}
Almost not bad, but the first line of the first tag is always twitching.
https://i.imgur.com/aYCj77Z.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/uRy5uDx.jpg
Maybe try to get rid of this?
I fiddled with the CSS for a long time, but nothing came of it better. Any 
ideas?

среда, 14 июля 2021 г. в 00:58:50 UTC+3, TW Tones: 

> I believe  z index of 1000 or 1500 should stop this. 
>
> Tones
>
> On Wednesday, 14 July 2021 at 03:07:30 UTC+10 Brian Radspinner wrote:
>
>> I don't think that simple CSS can solve this, since each tiddler frame is 
>> given a higher z-index as you go up the story river; so no matter what you 
>> set, each child will overlap all the tiddler elements farther down the 
>> river. You may have to just size the menu to not overlap with the story 
>> river, give the width a % to re-size with the window.
>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 1:03:15 AM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> https://i.imgur.com/Q1wXDdQ.jpg
>>> Turn on Sticky titles 
>>> 
>>>   
>>> -  yes 
>>>
>>> /* TAG SELECTOR */
>>>
>>> .tc-block-tags-dropdown{
>>> white-space: normal;
>>> min-width: 620px !important;
>>> }
>>> .tc-block-tags-dropdown a {
>>> display: inline-block !important;
>>> padding: 4px 4px 4px 4px !important;
>>> }
>>> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>>>position: fixed;
>>>top: 100px;
>>>right: 40px;
>>>bottom: 200px;
>>>width: 30em;
>>>overflow-y: auto;
>>> }
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> вторник, 13 июля 2021 г. в 03:15:23 UTC+3, Brian Radspinner: 
>>>
 That's interesting. Testing at TW.com and in my own TW, the menu floats 
 above other tiddlers.

 Do you have any other CSS positioning for .tc-tiddler-frame, 
 .tc-tiddler-view-frame, or .tc-tiddler-edit-frame?


 On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:43:01 PM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:

> Everything would be fine, but I discovered a new problem. This tags 
> window is covered by other entries. It can be fixed? I've experimented 
> with 
> z-index but to no avail.
> https://i.imgur.com/CZOVn6A.jpg
> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 16:48:00 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>
>> or even overflow-y: auto;
>>
>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:37:08 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>
>>> and may be add *overflow: scroll;*  :))
>>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:30:31 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>>
 I don't know why your post was deleted. Possibly a spam error! I 
 also had this a couple of days ago :(
 You wrote about CSS

 .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
position: fixed;
top: 0;
right: 0;
bottom: 0;
width: 30em;
 }

 I changed and now I really like it!

 .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
position: fixed;
top: 100px;
right: 40px;
bottom: 200px;
width: 30em;
 }

 Now you can just poke at the tags, the already selected ones are 
 hidden and do not distract, and the window does not jump. And you 
 don't 
 have to search again every time.
 Not bad and very convenient!

 воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:56:13 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 

> Okay, but the last problem remains. 
> How to make *popup **tag-picker *not move after clicking on the 
> tag, only in the vertical direction. It doesn't have to jump to a 
> different 
> place every time!
> This is how it works
> http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> This is very convenient when you do not need to search for the 
> next tag every time. It is strange that such an important part is in 
> such a 
> terrible state!
>
> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:29:12 UTC+3, David Gifford: 
>
>> Here is an easy way, just a simple stylesheet. 
>> https://giffmex.org/gifts/documenting.tw.html#Tag%20editor%20dropdown
>>
>> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 4:10:15 PM UTC-5 miket...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Now the usual view is very inconvenient when you have a lot of 
>>> tags and need to scroll and scroll down the page. Plus, the 
>>> selected tags 
>>> are still on the

[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

2021-07-13 Thread TW Tones

I believe  z index of 1000 or 1500 should stop this. 

Tones

On Wednesday, 14 July 2021 at 03:07:30 UTC+10 Brian Radspinner wrote:

> I don't think that simple CSS can solve this, since each tiddler frame is 
> given a higher z-index as you go up the story river; so no matter what you 
> set, each child will overlap all the tiddler elements farther down the 
> river. You may have to just size the menu to not overlap with the story 
> river, give the width a % to re-size with the window.
> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 1:03:15 AM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> https://i.imgur.com/Q1wXDdQ.jpg
>> Turn on Sticky titles 
>> 
>>   
>> -  yes 
>>
>> /* TAG SELECTOR */
>>
>> .tc-block-tags-dropdown{
>> white-space: normal;
>> min-width: 620px !important;
>> }
>> .tc-block-tags-dropdown a {
>> display: inline-block !important;
>> padding: 4px 4px 4px 4px !important;
>> }
>> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>>position: fixed;
>>top: 100px;
>>right: 40px;
>>bottom: 200px;
>>width: 30em;
>>overflow-y: auto;
>> }
>>
>>
>>
>> вторник, 13 июля 2021 г. в 03:15:23 UTC+3, Brian Radspinner: 
>>
>>> That's interesting. Testing at TW.com and in my own TW, the menu floats 
>>> above other tiddlers.
>>>
>>> Do you have any other CSS positioning for .tc-tiddler-frame, 
>>> .tc-tiddler-view-frame, or .tc-tiddler-edit-frame?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:43:01 PM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Everything would be fine, but I discovered a new problem. This tags 
 window is covered by other entries. It can be fixed? I've experimented 
 with 
 z-index but to no avail.
 https://i.imgur.com/CZOVn6A.jpg
 воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 16:48:00 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 

> or even overflow-y: auto;
>
> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:37:08 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>
>> and may be add *overflow: scroll;*  :))
>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:30:31 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>
>>> I don't know why your post was deleted. Possibly a spam error! I 
>>> also had this a couple of days ago :(
>>> You wrote about CSS
>>>
>>> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>>>position: fixed;
>>>top: 0;
>>>right: 0;
>>>bottom: 0;
>>>width: 30em;
>>> }
>>>
>>> I changed and now I really like it!
>>>
>>> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>>>position: fixed;
>>>top: 100px;
>>>right: 40px;
>>>bottom: 200px;
>>>width: 30em;
>>> }
>>>
>>> Now you can just poke at the tags, the already selected ones are 
>>> hidden and do not distract, and the window does not jump. And you don't 
>>> have to search again every time.
>>> Not bad and very convenient!
>>>
>>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:56:13 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>>
 Okay, but the last problem remains. 
 How to make *popup **tag-picker *not move after clicking on the 
 tag, only in the vertical direction. It doesn't have to jump to a 
 different 
 place every time!
 This is how it works
 http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/

 This is very convenient when you do not need to search for the next 
 tag every time. It is strange that such an important part is in such a 
 terrible state!

 воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:29:12 UTC+3, David Gifford: 

> Here is an easy way, just a simple stylesheet. 
> https://giffmex.org/gifts/documenting.tw.html#Tag%20editor%20dropdown
>
> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 4:10:15 PM UTC-5 miket...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Now the usual view is very inconvenient when you have a lot of 
>> tags and need to scroll and scroll down the page. Plus, the selected 
>> tags 
>> are still on the list and continue to distract.
>>
>> This raises two questions?
>>
>> 1. How can I make the selection of tags more compact so that I 
>> don't have to scroll down the page?
>>
>> 2. And how to mark tags that are already assigned. Ideally remove 
>> from the list, but it's probably difficult. Maybe you can at least 
>> change 
>> the color to a less noticeable?
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Nice option with checkboxes here
>> https://i.imgur.com/gxJm0Tw.jpg
>> http://zemox.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> But I didn't understand how he did it, I installed his plugins 
>> and nothing changed.
>
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[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

2021-07-13 Thread Brian Radspinner

I don't think that simple CSS can solve this, since each tiddler frame is 
given a higher z-index as you go up the story river; so no matter what you 
set, each child will overlap all the tiddler elements farther down the 
river. You may have to just size the menu to not overlap with the story 
river, give the width a % to re-size with the window.
On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 1:03:15 AM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:

> https://i.imgur.com/Q1wXDdQ.jpg
> Turn on Sticky titles 
> 
>   
> -  yes 
>
> /* TAG SELECTOR */
>
> .tc-block-tags-dropdown{
> white-space: normal;
> min-width: 620px !important;
> }
> .tc-block-tags-dropdown a {
> display: inline-block !important;
> padding: 4px 4px 4px 4px !important;
> }
> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>position: fixed;
>top: 100px;
>right: 40px;
>bottom: 200px;
>width: 30em;
>overflow-y: auto;
> }
>
>
>
> вторник, 13 июля 2021 г. в 03:15:23 UTC+3, Brian Radspinner: 
>
>> That's interesting. Testing at TW.com and in my own TW, the menu floats 
>> above other tiddlers.
>>
>> Do you have any other CSS positioning for .tc-tiddler-frame, 
>> .tc-tiddler-view-frame, or .tc-tiddler-edit-frame?
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:43:01 PM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Everything would be fine, but I discovered a new problem. This tags 
>>> window is covered by other entries. It can be fixed? I've experimented with 
>>> z-index but to no avail.
>>> https://i.imgur.com/CZOVn6A.jpg
>>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 16:48:00 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>>
 or even overflow-y: auto;

 воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:37:08 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 

> and may be add *overflow: scroll;*  :))
> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:30:31 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>
>> I don't know why your post was deleted. Possibly a spam error! I also 
>> had this a couple of days ago :(
>> You wrote about CSS
>>
>> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>>position: fixed;
>>top: 0;
>>right: 0;
>>bottom: 0;
>>width: 30em;
>> }
>>
>> I changed and now I really like it!
>>
>> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>>position: fixed;
>>top: 100px;
>>right: 40px;
>>bottom: 200px;
>>width: 30em;
>> }
>>
>> Now you can just poke at the tags, the already selected ones are 
>> hidden and do not distract, and the window does not jump. And you don't 
>> have to search again every time.
>> Not bad and very convenient!
>>
>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:56:13 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>
>>> Okay, but the last problem remains. 
>>> How to make *popup **tag-picker *not move after clicking on the 
>>> tag, only in the vertical direction. It doesn't have to jump to a 
>>> different 
>>> place every time!
>>> This is how it works
>>> http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>
>>> This is very convenient when you do not need to search for the next 
>>> tag every time. It is strange that such an important part is in such a 
>>> terrible state!
>>>
>>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:29:12 UTC+3, David Gifford: 
>>>
 Here is an easy way, just a simple stylesheet. 
 https://giffmex.org/gifts/documenting.tw.html#Tag%20editor%20dropdown

 On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 4:10:15 PM UTC-5 miket...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Now the usual view is very inconvenient when you have a lot of 
> tags and need to scroll and scroll down the page. Plus, the selected 
> tags 
> are still on the list and continue to distract.
>
> This raises two questions?
>
> 1. How can I make the selection of tags more compact so that I 
> don't have to scroll down the page?
>
> 2. And how to mark tags that are already assigned. Ideally remove 
> from the list, but it's probably difficult. Maybe you can at least 
> change 
> the color to a less noticeable?
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Nice option with checkboxes here
> https://i.imgur.com/gxJm0Tw.jpg
> http://zemox.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> But I didn't understand how he did it, I installed his plugins and 
> nothing changed.



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[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

2021-07-13 Thread Mike Andyl

https://i.imgur.com/Q1wXDdQ.jpg
Turn on Sticky titles 

  
-  yes 

/* TAG SELECTOR */
.tc-block-tags-dropdown{
white-space: normal;
min-width: 620px !important;
}
.tc-block-tags-dropdown a {
display: inline-block !important;
padding: 4px 4px 4px 4px !important;
}
.tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
   position: fixed;
   top: 100px;
   right: 40px;
   bottom: 200px;
   width: 30em;
   overflow-y: auto;
}



вторник, 13 июля 2021 г. в 03:15:23 UTC+3, Brian Radspinner: 

> That's interesting. Testing at TW.com and in my own TW, the menu floats 
> above other tiddlers.
>
> Do you have any other CSS positioning for .tc-tiddler-frame, 
> .tc-tiddler-view-frame, or .tc-tiddler-edit-frame?
>
>
> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:43:01 PM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Everything would be fine, but I discovered a new problem. This tags 
>> window is covered by other entries. It can be fixed? I've experimented with 
>> z-index but to no avail.
>> https://i.imgur.com/CZOVn6A.jpg
>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 16:48:00 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>
>>> or even overflow-y: auto;
>>>
>>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:37:08 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>>
 and may be add *overflow: scroll;*  :))
 воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:30:31 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 

> I don't know why your post was deleted. Possibly a spam error! I also 
> had this a couple of days ago :(
> You wrote about CSS
>
> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>position: fixed;
>top: 0;
>right: 0;
>bottom: 0;
>width: 30em;
> }
>
> I changed and now I really like it!
>
> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>position: fixed;
>top: 100px;
>right: 40px;
>bottom: 200px;
>width: 30em;
> }
>
> Now you can just poke at the tags, the already selected ones are 
> hidden and do not distract, and the window does not jump. And you don't 
> have to search again every time.
> Not bad and very convenient!
>
> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:56:13 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>
>> Okay, but the last problem remains. 
>> How to make *popup **tag-picker *not move after clicking on the tag, 
>> only in the vertical direction. It doesn't have to jump to a different 
>> place every time!
>> This is how it works
>> http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> This is very convenient when you do not need to search for the next 
>> tag every time. It is strange that such an important part is in such a 
>> terrible state!
>>
>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:29:12 UTC+3, David Gifford: 
>>
>>> Here is an easy way, just a simple stylesheet. 
>>> https://giffmex.org/gifts/documenting.tw.html#Tag%20editor%20dropdown
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 4:10:15 PM UTC-5 miket...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Now the usual view is very inconvenient when you have a lot of tags 
 and need to scroll and scroll down the page. Plus, the selected tags 
 are 
 still on the list and continue to distract.

 This raises two questions?

 1. How can I make the selection of tags more compact so that I 
 don't have to scroll down the page?

 2. And how to mark tags that are already assigned. Ideally remove 
 from the list, but it's probably difficult. Maybe you can at least 
 change 
 the color to a less noticeable?

 Any ideas?

 Nice option with checkboxes here
 https://i.imgur.com/gxJm0Tw.jpg
 http://zemox.tiddlyspot.com/

 But I didn't understand how he did it, I installed his plugins and 
 nothing changed.
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

2021-07-12 Thread Brian Radspinner

That's interesting. Testing at TW.com and in my own TW, the menu floats 
above other tiddlers.

Do you have any other CSS positioning for .tc-tiddler-frame, 
.tc-tiddler-view-frame, or .tc-tiddler-edit-frame?


On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:43:01 PM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:

> Everything would be fine, but I discovered a new problem. This tags window 
> is covered by other entries. It can be fixed? I've experimented with 
> z-index but to no avail.
> https://i.imgur.com/CZOVn6A.jpg
> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 16:48:00 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>
>> or even overflow-y: auto;
>>
>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:37:08 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>
>>> and may be add *overflow: scroll;*  :))
>>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:30:31 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>>
 I don't know why your post was deleted. Possibly a spam error! I also 
 had this a couple of days ago :(
 You wrote about CSS

 .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
position: fixed;
top: 0;
right: 0;
bottom: 0;
width: 30em;
 }

 I changed and now I really like it!

 .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
position: fixed;
top: 100px;
right: 40px;
bottom: 200px;
width: 30em;
 }

 Now you can just poke at the tags, the already selected ones are hidden 
 and do not distract, and the window does not jump. And you don't have to 
 search again every time.
 Not bad and very convenient!

 воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:56:13 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 

> Okay, but the last problem remains. 
> How to make *popup **tag-picker *not move after clicking on the tag, 
> only in the vertical direction. It doesn't have to jump to a different 
> place every time!
> This is how it works
> http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> This is very convenient when you do not need to search for the next 
> tag every time. It is strange that such an important part is in such a 
> terrible state!
>
> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:29:12 UTC+3, David Gifford: 
>
>> Here is an easy way, just a simple stylesheet. 
>> https://giffmex.org/gifts/documenting.tw.html#Tag%20editor%20dropdown
>>
>> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 4:10:15 PM UTC-5 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Now the usual view is very inconvenient when you have a lot of tags 
>>> and need to scroll and scroll down the page. Plus, the selected tags 
>>> are 
>>> still on the list and continue to distract.
>>>
>>> This raises two questions?
>>>
>>> 1. How can I make the selection of tags more compact so that I don't 
>>> have to scroll down the page?
>>>
>>> 2. And how to mark tags that are already assigned. Ideally remove 
>>> from the list, but it's probably difficult. Maybe you can at least 
>>> change 
>>> the color to a less noticeable?
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Nice option with checkboxes here
>>> https://i.imgur.com/gxJm0Tw.jpg
>>> http://zemox.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>
>>> But I didn't understand how he did it, I installed his plugins and 
>>> nothing changed.
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

2021-07-12 Thread Mike Andyl

Everything would be fine, but I discovered a new problem. This tags window 
is covered by other entries. It can be fixed? I've experimented with 
z-index but to no avail.
https://i.imgur.com/CZOVn6A.jpg
воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 16:48:00 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 

> or even overflow-y: auto;
>
> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:37:08 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>
>> and may be add *overflow: scroll;*  :))
>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:30:31 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>
>>> I don't know why your post was deleted. Possibly a spam error! I also 
>>> had this a couple of days ago :(
>>> You wrote about CSS
>>>
>>> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>>>position: fixed;
>>>top: 0;
>>>right: 0;
>>>bottom: 0;
>>>width: 30em;
>>> }
>>>
>>> I changed and now I really like it!
>>>
>>> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>>>position: fixed;
>>>top: 100px;
>>>right: 40px;
>>>bottom: 200px;
>>>width: 30em;
>>> }
>>>
>>> Now you can just poke at the tags, the already selected ones are hidden 
>>> and do not distract, and the window does not jump. And you don't have to 
>>> search again every time.
>>> Not bad and very convenient!
>>>
>>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:56:13 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>>
 Okay, but the last problem remains. 
 How to make *popup **tag-picker *not move after clicking on the tag, 
 only in the vertical direction. It doesn't have to jump to a different 
 place every time!
 This is how it works
 http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/

 This is very convenient when you do not need to search for the next tag 
 every time. It is strange that such an important part is in such a 
 terrible 
 state!

 воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:29:12 UTC+3, David Gifford: 

> Here is an easy way, just a simple stylesheet. 
> https://giffmex.org/gifts/documenting.tw.html#Tag%20editor%20dropdown
>
> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 4:10:15 PM UTC-5 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Now the usual view is very inconvenient when you have a lot of tags 
>> and need to scroll and scroll down the page. Plus, the selected tags are 
>> still on the list and continue to distract.
>>
>> This raises two questions?
>>
>> 1. How can I make the selection of tags more compact so that I don't 
>> have to scroll down the page?
>>
>> 2. And how to mark tags that are already assigned. Ideally remove 
>> from the list, but it's probably difficult. Maybe you can at least 
>> change 
>> the color to a less noticeable?
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Nice option with checkboxes here
>> https://i.imgur.com/gxJm0Tw.jpg
>> http://zemox.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> But I didn't understand how he did it, I installed his plugins and 
>> nothing changed.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

2021-07-11 Thread Mike Andyl

or even overflow-y: auto;

воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:37:08 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 

> and may be add *overflow: scroll;*  :))
> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:30:31 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>
>> I don't know why your post was deleted. Possibly a spam error! I also had 
>> this a couple of days ago :(
>> You wrote about CSS
>>
>> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>>position: fixed;
>>top: 0;
>>right: 0;
>>bottom: 0;
>>width: 30em;
>> }
>>
>> I changed and now I really like it!
>>
>> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>>position: fixed;
>>top: 100px;
>>right: 40px;
>>bottom: 200px;
>>width: 30em;
>> }
>>
>> Now you can just poke at the tags, the already selected ones are hidden 
>> and do not distract, and the window does not jump. And you don't have to 
>> search again every time.
>> Not bad and very convenient!
>>
>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:56:13 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>
>>> Okay, but the last problem remains. 
>>> How to make *popup **tag-picker *not move after clicking on the tag, 
>>> only in the vertical direction. It doesn't have to jump to a different 
>>> place every time!
>>> This is how it works
>>> http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>
>>> This is very convenient when you do not need to search for the next tag 
>>> every time. It is strange that such an important part is in such a terrible 
>>> state!
>>>
>>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:29:12 UTC+3, David Gifford: 
>>>
 Here is an easy way, just a simple stylesheet. 
 https://giffmex.org/gifts/documenting.tw.html#Tag%20editor%20dropdown

 On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 4:10:15 PM UTC-5 miket...@gmail.com wrote:

> Now the usual view is very inconvenient when you have a lot of tags 
> and need to scroll and scroll down the page. Plus, the selected tags are 
> still on the list and continue to distract.
>
> This raises two questions?
>
> 1. How can I make the selection of tags more compact so that I don't 
> have to scroll down the page?
>
> 2. And how to mark tags that are already assigned. Ideally remove from 
> the list, but it's probably difficult. Maybe you can at least change the 
> color to a less noticeable?
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Nice option with checkboxes here
> https://i.imgur.com/gxJm0Tw.jpg
> http://zemox.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> But I didn't understand how he did it, I installed his plugins and 
> nothing changed.



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[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

2021-07-11 Thread Mike Andyl

and may be add *overflow: scroll;*  :))
воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:30:31 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 

> I don't know why your post was deleted. Possibly a spam error! I also had 
> this a couple of days ago :(
> You wrote about CSS
>
> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>position: fixed;
>top: 0;
>right: 0;
>bottom: 0;
>width: 30em;
> }
>
> I changed and now I really like it!
>
> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>position: fixed;
>top: 100px;
>right: 40px;
>bottom: 200px;
>width: 30em;
> }
>
> Now you can just poke at the tags, the already selected ones are hidden 
> and do not distract, and the window does not jump. And you don't have to 
> search again every time.
> Not bad and very convenient!
>
> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:56:13 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>
>> Okay, but the last problem remains. 
>> How to make *popup **tag-picker *not move after clicking on the tag, 
>> only in the vertical direction. It doesn't have to jump to a different 
>> place every time!
>> This is how it works
>> http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> This is very convenient when you do not need to search for the next tag 
>> every time. It is strange that such an important part is in such a terrible 
>> state!
>>
>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:29:12 UTC+3, David Gifford: 
>>
>>> Here is an easy way, just a simple stylesheet. 
>>> https://giffmex.org/gifts/documenting.tw.html#Tag%20editor%20dropdown
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 4:10:15 PM UTC-5 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Now the usual view is very inconvenient when you have a lot of tags and 
 need to scroll and scroll down the page. Plus, the selected tags are still 
 on the list and continue to distract.

 This raises two questions?

 1. How can I make the selection of tags more compact so that I don't 
 have to scroll down the page?

 2. And how to mark tags that are already assigned. Ideally remove from 
 the list, but it's probably difficult. Maybe you can at least change the 
 color to a less noticeable?

 Any ideas?

 Nice option with checkboxes here
 https://i.imgur.com/gxJm0Tw.jpg
 http://zemox.tiddlyspot.com/

 But I didn't understand how he did it, I installed his plugins and 
 nothing changed.
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

2021-07-11 Thread Mike Andyl

I don't know why your post was deleted. Possibly a spam error! I also had 
this a couple of days ago :(
You wrote about CSS

.tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
   position: fixed;
   top: 0;
   right: 0;
   bottom: 0;
   width: 30em;
}

I changed and now I really like it!

.tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
   position: fixed;
   top: 100px;
   right: 40px;
   bottom: 200px;
   width: 30em;
}

Now you can just poke at the tags, the already selected ones are hidden and 
do not distract, and the window does not jump. And you don't have to search 
again every time.
Not bad and very convenient!

воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:56:13 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 

> Okay, but the last problem remains. 
> How to make *popup **tag-picker *not move after clicking on the tag, only 
> in the vertical direction. It doesn't have to jump to a different place 
> every time!
> This is how it works
> http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> This is very convenient when you do not need to search for the next tag 
> every time. It is strange that such an important part is in such a terrible 
> state!
>
> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:29:12 UTC+3, David Gifford: 
>
>> Here is an easy way, just a simple stylesheet. 
>> https://giffmex.org/gifts/documenting.tw.html#Tag%20editor%20dropdown
>>
>> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 4:10:15 PM UTC-5 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Now the usual view is very inconvenient when you have a lot of tags and 
>>> need to scroll and scroll down the page. Plus, the selected tags are still 
>>> on the list and continue to distract.
>>>
>>> This raises two questions?
>>>
>>> 1. How can I make the selection of tags more compact so that I don't 
>>> have to scroll down the page?
>>>
>>> 2. And how to mark tags that are already assigned. Ideally remove from 
>>> the list, but it's probably difficult. Maybe you can at least change the 
>>> color to a less noticeable?
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Nice option with checkboxes here
>>> https://i.imgur.com/gxJm0Tw.jpg
>>> http://zemox.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>
>>> But I didn't understand how he did it, I installed his plugins and 
>>> nothing changed.
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

2021-07-10 Thread Brian Radspinner

If you don't want the drop-down menu to move, you can use CSS to stick the 
menu anywhere on screen. As an example, the following code with put the 
menu on the right side of the screen, stretched from top to bottom with a 
decent fixed width. BACKUP before trying it.

.tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
   position: fixed;
   top: 0;
   right: 0;
   bottom: 0;
   width: 30em;
}

On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 4:56:13 PM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:

> Okay, but the last problem remains. 
> How to make *popup **tag-picker *not move after clicking on the tag, only 
> in the vertical direction. It doesn't have to jump to a different place 
> every time!
> This is how it works
> http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> This is very convenient when you do not need to search for the next tag 
> every time. It is strange that such an important part is in such a terrible 
> state!
>
> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:29:12 UTC+3, David Gifford: 
>
>> Here is an easy way, just a simple stylesheet. 
>> https://giffmex.org/gifts/documenting.tw.html#Tag%20editor%20dropdown
>>
>> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 4:10:15 PM UTC-5 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Now the usual view is very inconvenient when you have a lot of tags and 
>>> need to scroll and scroll down the page. Plus, the selected tags are still 
>>> on the list and continue to distract.
>>>
>>> This raises two questions?
>>>
>>> 1. How can I make the selection of tags more compact so that I don't 
>>> have to scroll down the page?
>>>
>>> 2. And how to mark tags that are already assigned. Ideally remove from 
>>> the list, but it's probably difficult. Maybe you can at least change the 
>>> color to a less noticeable?
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Nice option with checkboxes here
>>> https://i.imgur.com/gxJm0Tw.jpg
>>> http://zemox.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>
>>> But I didn't understand how he did it, I installed his plugins and 
>>> nothing changed.
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

2021-07-10 Thread Brian Radspinner

If you want some more room for the tags menu, and for it not to move, you 
can use CSS to pin the menu on-screen. The following code will pin the menu 
to the top, left, and bottom of the screen to let you see more entries at 
once.

.tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
   position: fixed;
   top: 0;
   left: 0;
   bottom: 0;
   width: 30em;
   overflow: scroll;
}

On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 4:56:13 PM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:

> Okay, but the last problem remains. 
> How to make *popup **tag-picker *not move after clicking on the tag, only 
> in the vertical direction. It doesn't have to jump to a different place 
> every time!
> This is how it works
> http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> This is very convenient when you do not need to search for the next tag 
> every time. It is strange that such an important part is in such a terrible 
> state!
>
> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:29:12 UTC+3, David Gifford: 
>
>> Here is an easy way, just a simple stylesheet. 
>> https://giffmex.org/gifts/documenting.tw.html#Tag%20editor%20dropdown
>>
>> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 4:10:15 PM UTC-5 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Now the usual view is very inconvenient when you have a lot of tags and 
>>> need to scroll and scroll down the page. Plus, the selected tags are still 
>>> on the list and continue to distract.
>>>
>>> This raises two questions?
>>>
>>> 1. How can I make the selection of tags more compact so that I don't 
>>> have to scroll down the page?
>>>
>>> 2. And how to mark tags that are already assigned. Ideally remove from 
>>> the list, but it's probably difficult. Maybe you can at least change the 
>>> color to a less noticeable?
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Nice option with checkboxes here
>>> https://i.imgur.com/gxJm0Tw.jpg
>>> http://zemox.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>
>>> But I didn't understand how he did it, I installed his plugins and 
>>> nothing changed.
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

2021-07-10 Thread Brian Radspinner

Here's an option for a longer tags menu that doesn't move: use CSS to pin 
it to the sides of the screen...

.tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
   position: fixed;
   top: 0;
   left: 0;
   bottom: 0;
   width: 20em;
   overflow: scroll;
} 

On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 4:56:13 PM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:

> Okay, but the last problem remains. 
> How to make *popup **tag-picker *not move after clicking on the tag, only 
> in the vertical direction. It doesn't have to jump to a different place 
> every time!
> This is how it works
> http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> This is very convenient when you do not need to search for the next tag 
> every time. It is strange that such an important part is in such a terrible 
> state!
>
> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:29:12 UTC+3, David Gifford: 
>
>> Here is an easy way, just a simple stylesheet. 
>> https://giffmex.org/gifts/documenting.tw.html#Tag%20editor%20dropdown
>>
>> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 4:10:15 PM UTC-5 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Now the usual view is very inconvenient when you have a lot of tags and 
>>> need to scroll and scroll down the page. Plus, the selected tags are still 
>>> on the list and continue to distract.
>>>
>>> This raises two questions?
>>>
>>> 1. How can I make the selection of tags more compact so that I don't 
>>> have to scroll down the page?
>>>
>>> 2. And how to mark tags that are already assigned. Ideally remove from 
>>> the list, but it's probably difficult. Maybe you can at least change the 
>>> color to a less noticeable?
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Nice option with checkboxes here
>>> https://i.imgur.com/gxJm0Tw.jpg
>>> http://zemox.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>
>>> But I didn't understand how he did it, I installed his plugins and 
>>> nothing changed.
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

2021-07-10 Thread Mike Andyl

Okay, but the last problem remains. 
How to make *popup **tag-picker *not move after clicking on the tag, only 
in the vertical direction. It doesn't have to jump to a different place 
every time!
This is how it works
http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/

This is very convenient when you do not need to search for the next tag 
every time. It is strange that such an important part is in such a terrible 
state!

воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:29:12 UTC+3, David Gifford: 

> Here is an easy way, just a simple stylesheet. 
> https://giffmex.org/gifts/documenting.tw.html#Tag%20editor%20dropdown
>
> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 4:10:15 PM UTC-5 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Now the usual view is very inconvenient when you have a lot of tags and 
>> need to scroll and scroll down the page. Plus, the selected tags are still 
>> on the list and continue to distract.
>>
>> This raises two questions?
>>
>> 1. How can I make the selection of tags more compact so that I don't have 
>> to scroll down the page?
>>
>> 2. And how to mark tags that are already assigned. Ideally remove from 
>> the list, but it's probably difficult. Maybe you can at least change the 
>> color to a less noticeable?
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Nice option with checkboxes here
>> https://i.imgur.com/gxJm0Tw.jpg
>> http://zemox.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> But I didn't understand how he did it, I installed his plugins and 
>> nothing changed.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

2021-07-10 Thread David Gifford

Here is an easy way, just a simple stylesheet. 
https://giffmex.org/gifts/documenting.tw.html#Tag%20editor%20dropdown

On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 4:10:15 PM UTC-5 miket...@gmail.com wrote:

> Now the usual view is very inconvenient when you have a lot of tags and 
> need to scroll and scroll down the page. Plus, the selected tags are still 
> on the list and continue to distract.
>
> This raises two questions?
>
> 1. How can I make the selection of tags more compact so that I don't have 
> to scroll down the page?
>
> 2. And how to mark tags that are already assigned. Ideally remove from the 
> list, but it's probably difficult. Maybe you can at least change the color 
> to a less noticeable?
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Nice option with checkboxes here
> https://i.imgur.com/gxJm0Tw.jpg
> http://zemox.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> But I didn't understand how he did it, I installed his plugins and nothing 
> changed.

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[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

2021-07-10 Thread Mike Andyl

And another useful custom CSS edit. More tags on the screen line by line in 
the block!

.tc-block-tags-dropdown{
white-space: normal;
min-width: 620px !important;
}
.tc-block-tags-dropdown a {
display: inline-block !important;
padding: 4px 4px 4px 4px !important;
}

воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 00:54:02 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 

> To remove unnecessary tags from *tag-picker* that already exist, find two 
> filters *nonSystemTagsFilter* & *systemTagsFilter *in 
> $:/core/macros/tag-picker and add this to them at the end: 
> *-[all[current]tags[]]*
> суббота, 10 июля 2021 г. в 01:49:47 UTC+3, TW Tones: 
>
>> Miket,
>>
>> Good questions we should collect answers to, the fact is Tags are such a 
>> useful concept that we can "run away with them" and overuse them. These 
>> questions of yours indicate you seem to be in  a common phase we all pass 
>> through with tiddlywiki.
>>
>> However it exposes something us "seasoned" tiddlywiki enthusiasts learn. 
>> An *over reliance* on tags causes something we sometimes refer to as 
>> "tag pollution" or "tag saturation". Fortunately there are plenty of 
>> strategies we can adopt.
>>
>> Let me pass on a little from my experience of more than a decade with 
>> tiddlywiki and three decades with Information technology.
>>
>>- Personally I came across this tag pollution very early in my 
>>tiddlywiki journey, the result is I have a special approach now that 
>> serves 
>>me well, my approach is to use as few tags as possible leaving the "tags 
>>space" as "empty as possible". I tend to reserve tags for system 
>> functions 
>>(behind the scenes eg system tags etc...)  or "ad hoc" use.
>>- I achieve this by "moving tags into fields" whereever possible. 
>>   - An example would be rather than have a tag to indicate a task, I 
>>   have a field called *object-type with a value of task* (and other 
>>   values), to indicate a *status of a task* rather than a status tag 
>> *have 
>>   a status field*. 
>>- When moving from a tag to a field we get to craft the way they 
>>behave differently, for example in the aforementioned *object-type 
>>and status fields* we can ensure a given tiddler only has one value 
>>at a time, so we do not need to put the effort into removing a tag. Just 
>>change the field value.
>>- Of course like tags sometimes we want more than one value at a time 
>>on a specific tiddler, I use tags initially, they make this easy, however 
>>as you start to have too many tags, new tags simply "pollute the tag 
>> space 
>>further".
>>- I may not want to change what plugins and other tools use tags for 
>>   but I can control what I do with ones I create.
>>   - Using the listops, list and other operators we can manage fields 
>>   that contain multiple values.
>>  - I tend to avoid spaces in the names of such values so space 
>>  delimited is sufficient but you can make use of the [[title with 
>> spaces]] 
>>  methods and look at enlist and other operators.
>>   - The alt-tags (gen tags) plugin allows you to make use of 
>>   multiple-tags fields if you want.
>>- The trick is tags are a form of generic indicators, you can quickly 
>>use to achieve an outcome, but with experience you discover on moving 
>> them 
>>into a field that there are different organisational methods you can 
>> easily 
>>enforce when using a field. For example you can ensure a tiddler belongs 
>>only to one category or one or more subjects.
>>- Fields can 
>>- Exist but contain nothing see [has[fieldname]] (field exists and 
>>   has value) and [[has:field[fieldname]]  (field exists with or without 
>> a 
>>   value)
>>  - Thus the existence of a field can itself be a condition or 
>>  switch
>>   - Contain wiki text or transclusions
>>   - be managed with common suffixes or prefixes eg; anything-link  
>>   else-link 
>>
>> Finally;
>>
>>- In coming versions the limitations of field naming are to be 
>>removed and we expect a lot of innovation ultimately occurring around 
>> this.
>>- Eventually one becomes aware of the subtle qualities of different 
>>ways to define either a tag or field. So lets say I decided to give many 
>>tiddlers a "domain" eg work/personal/health/family I may decide a given 
>>tiddler should only belong to one domain, then I would use a field with a 
>>single value.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>> On Saturday, 10 July 2021 at 07:10:15 UTC+10 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Now the usual view is very inconvenient when you have a lot of tags and 
>>> need to scroll and scroll down the page. Plus, the selected tags are still 
>>> on the list and continue to distract.
>>>
>>> This raises two questions?
>>>
>>> 1. How can I make the selection of tags more compact so that I don't 
>>> have to scroll down the page?
>>>
>>> 2. And how

[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

2021-07-10 Thread Mike Andyl

To remove unnecessary tags from *tag-picker* that already exist, find two 
filters *nonSystemTagsFilter* & *systemTagsFilter *in 
$:/core/macros/tag-picker and add this to them at the end: 
*-[all[current]tags[]]*
суббота, 10 июля 2021 г. в 01:49:47 UTC+3, TW Tones: 

> Miket,
>
> Good questions we should collect answers to, the fact is Tags are such a 
> useful concept that we can "run away with them" and overuse them. These 
> questions of yours indicate you seem to be in  a common phase we all pass 
> through with tiddlywiki.
>
> However it exposes something us "seasoned" tiddlywiki enthusiasts learn. 
> An *over reliance* on tags causes something we sometimes refer to as "tag 
> pollution" or "tag saturation". Fortunately there are plenty of strategies 
> we can adopt.
>
> Let me pass on a little from my experience of more than a decade with 
> tiddlywiki and three decades with Information technology.
>
>- Personally I came across this tag pollution very early in my 
>tiddlywiki journey, the result is I have a special approach now that 
> serves 
>me well, my approach is to use as few tags as possible leaving the "tags 
>space" as "empty as possible". I tend to reserve tags for system functions 
>(behind the scenes eg system tags etc...)  or "ad hoc" use.
>- I achieve this by "moving tags into fields" whereever possible. 
>   - An example would be rather than have a tag to indicate a task, I 
>   have a field called *object-type with a value of task* (and other 
>   values), to indicate a *status of a task* rather than a status tag 
> *have 
>   a status field*. 
>- When moving from a tag to a field we get to craft the way they 
>behave differently, for example in the aforementioned *object-type and 
>status fields* we can ensure a given tiddler only has one value at a 
>time, so we do not need to put the effort into removing a tag. Just change 
>the field value.
>- Of course like tags sometimes we want more than one value at a time 
>on a specific tiddler, I use tags initially, they make this easy, however 
>as you start to have too many tags, new tags simply "pollute the tag space 
>further".
>- I may not want to change what plugins and other tools use tags for 
>   but I can control what I do with ones I create.
>   - Using the listops, list and other operators we can manage fields 
>   that contain multiple values.
>  - I tend to avoid spaces in the names of such values so space 
>  delimited is sufficient but you can make use of the [[title with 
> spaces]] 
>  methods and look at enlist and other operators.
>   - The alt-tags (gen tags) plugin allows you to make use of 
>   multiple-tags fields if you want.
>- The trick is tags are a form of generic indicators, you can quickly 
>use to achieve an outcome, but with experience you discover on moving them 
>into a field that there are different organisational methods you can 
> easily 
>enforce when using a field. For example you can ensure a tiddler belongs 
>only to one category or one or more subjects.
>- Fields can 
>- Exist but contain nothing see [has[fieldname]] (field exists and has 
>   value) and [[has:field[fieldname]]  (field exists with or without a 
> value)
>  - Thus the existence of a field can itself be a condition or 
>  switch
>   - Contain wiki text or transclusions
>   - be managed with common suffixes or prefixes eg; anything-link  
>   else-link 
>
> Finally;
>
>- In coming versions the limitations of field naming are to be removed 
>and we expect a lot of innovation ultimately occurring around this.
>- Eventually one becomes aware of the subtle qualities of different 
>ways to define either a tag or field. So lets say I decided to give many 
>tiddlers a "domain" eg work/personal/health/family I may decide a given 
>tiddler should only belong to one domain, then I would use a field with a 
>single value.
>
> Regards
> Tones
> On Saturday, 10 July 2021 at 07:10:15 UTC+10 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Now the usual view is very inconvenient when you have a lot of tags and 
>> need to scroll and scroll down the page. Plus, the selected tags are still 
>> on the list and continue to distract.
>>
>> This raises two questions?
>>
>> 1. How can I make the selection of tags more compact so that I don't have 
>> to scroll down the page?
>>
>> 2. And how to mark tags that are already assigned. Ideally remove from 
>> the list, but it's probably difficult. Maybe you can at least change the 
>> color to a less noticeable?
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Nice option with checkboxes here
>> https://i.imgur.com/gxJm0Tw.jpg
>> http://zemox.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> But I didn't understand how he did it, I installed his plugins and 
>> nothing changed.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

2021-07-09 Thread TW Tones

Miket,

Good questions we should collect answers to, the fact is Tags are such a 
useful concept that we can "run away with them" and overuse them. These 
questions of yours indicate you seem to be in  a common phase we all pass 
through with tiddlywiki.

However it exposes something us "seasoned" tiddlywiki enthusiasts learn. An 
*over 
reliance* on tags causes something we sometimes refer to as "tag pollution" 
or "tag saturation". Fortunately there are plenty of strategies we can 
adopt.

Let me pass on a little from my experience of more than a decade with 
tiddlywiki and three decades with Information technology.

   - Personally I came across this tag pollution very early in my 
   tiddlywiki journey, the result is I have a special approach now that serves 
   me well, my approach is to use as few tags as possible leaving the "tags 
   space" as "empty as possible". I tend to reserve tags for system functions 
   (behind the scenes eg system tags etc...)  or "ad hoc" use.
   - I achieve this by "moving tags into fields" whereever possible. 
  - An example would be rather than have a tag to indicate a task, I 
  have a field called *object-type with a value of task* (and other 
  values), to indicate a *status of a task* rather than a status tag *have 
  a status field*. 
   - When moving from a tag to a field we get to craft the way they behave 
   differently, for example in the aforementioned *object-type and status 
   fields* we can ensure a given tiddler only has one value at a time, so 
   we do not need to put the effort into removing a tag. Just change the field 
   value.
   - Of course like tags sometimes we want more than one value at a time on 
   a specific tiddler, I use tags initially, they make this easy, however as 
   you start to have too many tags, new tags simply "pollute the tag space 
   further".
   - I may not want to change what plugins and other tools use tags for but 
  I can control what I do with ones I create.
  - Using the listops, list and other operators we can manage fields 
  that contain multiple values.
 - I tend to avoid spaces in the names of such values so space 
 delimited is sufficient but you can make use of the [[title with 
spaces]] 
 methods and look at enlist and other operators.
  - The alt-tags (gen tags) plugin allows you to make use of 
  multiple-tags fields if you want.
   - The trick is tags are a form of generic indicators, you can quickly 
   use to achieve an outcome, but with experience you discover on moving them 
   into a field that there are different organisational methods you can easily 
   enforce when using a field. For example you can ensure a tiddler belongs 
   only to one category or one or more subjects.
   - Fields can 
   - Exist but contain nothing see [has[fieldname]] (field exists and has 
  value) and [[has:field[fieldname]]  (field exists with or without a value)
 - Thus the existence of a field can itself be a condition or switch
  - Contain wiki text or transclusions
  - be managed with common suffixes or prefixes eg; anything-link  
  else-link 
   
Finally;

   - In coming versions the limitations of field naming are to be removed 
   and we expect a lot of innovation ultimately occurring around this.
   - Eventually one becomes aware of the subtle qualities of different ways 
   to define either a tag or field. So lets say I decided to give many 
   tiddlers a "domain" eg work/personal/health/family I may decide a given 
   tiddler should only belong to one domain, then I would use a field with a 
   single value.

Regards
Tones
On Saturday, 10 July 2021 at 07:10:15 UTC+10 miket...@gmail.com wrote:

> Now the usual view is very inconvenient when you have a lot of tags and 
> need to scroll and scroll down the page. Plus, the selected tags are still 
> on the list and continue to distract.
>
> This raises two questions?
>
> 1. How can I make the selection of tags more compact so that I don't have 
> to scroll down the page?
>
> 2. And how to mark tags that are already assigned. Ideally remove from the 
> list, but it's probably difficult. Maybe you can at least change the color 
> to a less noticeable?
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Nice option with checkboxes here
> https://i.imgur.com/gxJm0Tw.jpg
> http://zemox.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> But I didn't understand how he did it, I installed his plugins and nothing 
> changed.

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[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

2021-07-09 Thread PMario

Hi, 
This plugin will only help you with your issue no. 1)
-m

On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 11:59:40 PM UTC+2 PMario wrote:

> Hi, 
> You could use my "Multi-column Dropdown" plugin. 
> https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/multicol-dropdown/
>
> The plugin only changes some CSS styles. 
>
> For an easy way to import and update my plugins you can have a look at 
> https://wikilabs.github.io/  and watch the video. 
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
> *PS - If you USE it: Support it  :) * 
>

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[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

2021-07-09 Thread PMario

Hi, 
You could use my "Multi-column Dropdown" plugin. 
https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/multicol-dropdown/

The plugin only changes some CSS styles. 

For an easy way to import and update my plugins you can have a look at 
https://wikilabs.github.io/  and watch the video. 

have fun!
mario

*PS - If you USE it: Support it  :) * 

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