Re: [tw5] Re: Notes from the Coalface: Pasting URL's with pretty title

[TW Tones]

Just to follow up


   - At the moment the permalink to a tiddler copies the encoded url, if 
   you paste this anywhere else you keep the encoded link. 
  - Click and it works however the pretty title is lost or non 
  existent. 
  - This copy only ever captures the encoded URL
   - If however you make the tiddler titles into links and copy that using 
   select and copy, you can past this almost anywhere, email, GG, word and 
   other Rich text environments
  - In some only the pretty link is pasted (not URL)
  - *In many the link is pasted and is displayed behind the original 
  pretty link (this is the** most desirable)*
  - In some including plain text fields eg tiddler text fields only the 
  encoded url is pasted
   
What I would like;

   - The existing permalink to do the equivalent of highlight and copy
   - Provide the ability to drop/paste such links from the clipboard into 
   tiddlywiki and capture both the link and pretty title
  - Ideally directly and to the [[prettylink||urllink]] form required 
  by Tiddlywiki
  - Alternatively as a HTML a record prettylink
   - What I would like less
  - If necessary a mechanism to drop/paste into an intermediate 
  mechanism
  - Another form of the permalink but with the desired copy behaviour.
   
Regards
Tones
On Monday, 9 August 2021 at 04:07:55 UTC+10 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> Yeah, I know what you mean especially with the %20's all over the place.
>
> That can be fairly easily resolved by sticking with camel case for 
> tiddler names.
>
> I very much dislike camel case *(cognitive annoyances)* in my 
> TiddlyWikis, so much so that I prefer live with those ugly %20's in links, 
> to everybody else's very understandable chagrin.
>
> Being an incessant Tiddler Title Tweaker (a 3T-er? a threeter?), I'm 
> moving towards internal ID's as part of URL's, to prevent future link rot 
> re distributed URL's (link rot caused by my "threeting".)  Yeah, I coddle 
> my sanity, or maybe insanity, and wind up perpetuating ugly URL's.
>
> Let's say I get what you mean, but I've surrendered to ugly URL syndrome 
> as the easier to live with evil.  (thank goodness for the pretty links.)
>
> On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 2:27 PM Soren Bjornstad  
> wrote:
>
>> Um, there was no disagreement in this thread with Tones.
>>>
>>> Tones' initial post was about getting pretty links when the URL encoding 
>>> are ugly.  I think that's great.  *(Already a usual habit of mine, just 
>>> grabbing them links from the "Open" sidebar tab instead.)* 
>>>
>>
>> It sounded to me like Tones also had an opinion on the existence of "ugly 
>> URLs," which is why I responded from back there, but maybe that was just me 
>> misreading the post.
>>   
>>
>>> [A]re you both suggesting that it would be better to instead change URL 
>>> encoding so they don't have things like "#" and "%20" in them ?
>>>
>>
>> No, I'm suggesting that when one has an opportunity to choose the format 
>> of a URL, one should choose one that uses as few internal IDs and special 
>> characters (since those turn into %-encoding) as possible. (I don't see any 
>> problem with # in itself, that has a clearly defined meaning and isn't 
>> ugly.) I do not think that TiddlyWiki is doing anything wrong here – I was 
>> just trying to explain what some people might consider an ugly URL.
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Re: [tw5] Re: Notes from the Coalface: Pasting URL's with pretty title

[CJ Veniot]

Yeah, I know what you mean especially with the %20's all over the place.

That can be fairly easily resolved by sticking with camel case for
tiddler names.

I very much dislike camel case *(cognitive annoyances)* in my TiddlyWikis,
so much so that I prefer live with those ugly %20's in links, to everybody
else's very understandable chagrin.

Being an incessant Tiddler Title Tweaker (a 3T-er? a threeter?), I'm moving
towards internal ID's as part of URL's, to prevent future link rot re
distributed URL's (link rot caused by my "threeting".)  Yeah, I coddle my
sanity, or maybe insanity, and wind up perpetuating ugly URL's.

Let's say I get what you mean, but I've surrendered to ugly URL syndrome as
the easier to live with evil.  (thank goodness for the pretty links.)

On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 2:27 PM Soren Bjornstad 
wrote:

> Um, there was no disagreement in this thread with Tones.
>>
>> Tones' initial post was about getting pretty links when the URL encoding
>> are ugly.  I think that's great.  *(Already a usual habit of mine, just
>> grabbing them links from the "Open" sidebar tab instead.)*
>>
>
> It sounded to me like Tones also had an opinion on the existence of "ugly
> URLs," which is why I responded from back there, but maybe that was just me
> misreading the post.
>
>
>> [A]re you both suggesting that it would be better to instead change URL
>> encoding so they don't have things like "#" and "%20" in them ?
>>
>
> No, I'm suggesting that when one has an opportunity to choose the format
> of a URL, one should choose one that uses as few internal IDs and special
> characters (since those turn into %-encoding) as possible. (I don't see any
> problem with # in itself, that has a clearly defined meaning and isn't
> ugly.) I do not think that TiddlyWiki is doing anything wrong here – I was
> just trying to explain what some people might consider an ugly URL.
>
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[tw5] Re: Notes from the Coalface: Pasting URL's with pretty title

[Soren Bjornstad]

>
> Um, there was no disagreement in this thread with Tones.
>
> Tones' initial post was about getting pretty links when the URL encoding 
> are ugly.  I think that's great.  *(Already a usual habit of mine, just 
> grabbing them links from the "Open" sidebar tab instead.)* 
>

It sounded to me like Tones also had an opinion on the existence of "ugly 
URLs," which is why I responded from back there, but maybe that was just me 
misreading the post.
  

> [A]re you both suggesting that it would be better to instead change URL 
> encoding so they don't have things like "#" and "%20" in them ?
>

No, I'm suggesting that when one has an opportunity to choose the format of 
a URL, one should choose one that uses as few internal IDs and special 
characters (since those turn into %-encoding) as possible. (I don't see any 
problem with # in itself, that has a clearly defined meaning and isn't 
ugly.) I do not think that TiddlyWiki is doing anything wrong here – I was 
just trying to explain what some people might consider an ugly URL.

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[tw5] Re: Notes from the Coalface: Pasting URL's with pretty title

[Charlie Veniot]

Um, there was no disagreement in this thread with Tones.

Tones' initial post was about getting pretty links when the URL encoding 
are ugly.  I think that's great.  *(Already a usual habit of mine, just 
grabbing them links from the "Open" sidebar tab instead.)* 

I'm just trying to understand The Islander's subsequent post. And now your 
post as well.  Where Tones is suggesting a nice way to provide links (kind 
of abstracting the URL encoding), are you both suggesting that it would be 
better to instead change URL encoding so they don't have things like "#" 
and "%20" in them ?

On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 10:04:44 AM UTC-3 Soren Bjornstad wrote:

> I agree with Tones, URLs should be human-readable when possible...if 
> they're not, they're ugly. That means they consist of actual words, not 
> internal IDs and random strings of characters, when possible, and you can 
> tell what each component in the path represents. A bunch of URL-encoded 
> nonsense with %20 and so on is only human-readable if you know a lot about 
> text encoding, and even then it's going to slow you down. There was a time 
> in maybe the early aughts when most URLs were an unreadable mess, post 
> titles used their ID numbers in the database, there were usually giant 
> strings of query parameters after ?, etc. Then people got wise and started 
> prioritizing URLs that people can understand and type again (maybe partly 
> because search engines started taking that into account for ranking 
> purposes).
>
> But I think we're mixing up two concerns in this thread, the link text and 
> the actual URL. Raw URLs are uglier than text explaining where they go in 
> most cases, but that's a different question from the URL itself. In Tones' 
> example, the actual URL is the same in both links (though I'll note my 
> browser does convert the %20's to actual spaces on mouseover). 
>
> On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 1:15:19 AM UTC-5 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> *"Although the link text looks nice, hover over it and look at the URL. 
>> Yuck!"*
>>
>> Thanks, but I still don't understand where The Islander was going with 
>> that.
>>
>> A URL is a URL.  Not quite sure how it could be made prettier, or why it 
>> would matter when the link is pretty.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 2:50:41 AM UTC-3 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> Charlie;
>>>
>>> Use the permalink button you get 
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Sort%20Filter%20Run%20Prefix thats 
>>> Yuk in my view
>>> Now control Panel, settings > tiddlywiki >  Display tiddler titles as 
>>> links
>>>
>>> Now open the tiddler and highlight the title and copy, then past here Sort 
>>> Filter Run Prefix 
>>> 
>>> Thats not yuck
>>>
>>> I think you may see it aint the beholder, its universal. Especially if 
>>> you want to see the yuck one just mouse over.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tones
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 8 August 2021 at 03:57:06 UTC+10 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Yuck how?  What's a non-yuck URL?

 Understanding, of course, that yuck is in the eye of the beholder, and 
 that URL's are first about being successful at getting to something on the 
 web.

 I ask because of the potential for me to gain a new insight into how 
 different people see things.

 On Friday, August 6, 2021 at 12:42:44 AM UTC-3 The Islander wrote:

> Although the link text looks nice, hover over it and look at the URL. 
> Yuck!
>
> On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 6:12:40 PM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I just stumbled upon something helpful. You may know how to copy a 
>> permalink to a tiddler, this results in URL, and using the to clipboard 
>> option is help full. the only problem is the result is an ugly URL with 
>> encoding.
>>
>> I discovered today however if you have Control Panel > Settings > 
>> Tiddler 
>> Titles 
>> 
>>  set 
>> to Display tiddler titles as links, there is a a better choice. Or where 
>> every you see a link in a tiddler eg  Learning 
>>  [[Learning  |
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Learning]] copt that with you mouse.
>>
>> If the titles are displayed as links highlight and copy the title 
>> with your mouse. The result if pasted is well formatted link eg; 
>> Navigation 
>> History 
>> .
>>  
>> It is not helpful pasting into tiddlywiki,  I will raise an issue on 
>> this. 
>> But it is helpful pasting links into email and forum posts. As I have 
>> done 
>> here.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Notes from the Coalface: Pasting URL's with pretty title

[Soren Bjornstad]

I agree with Tones, URLs should be human-readable when possible...if 
they're not, they're ugly. That means they consist of actual words, not 
internal IDs and random strings of characters, when possible, and you can 
tell what each component in the path represents. A bunch of URL-encoded 
nonsense with %20 and so on is only human-readable if you know a lot about 
text encoding, and even then it's going to slow you down. There was a time 
in maybe the early aughts when most URLs were an unreadable mess, post 
titles used their ID numbers in the database, there were usually giant 
strings of query parameters after ?, etc. Then people got wise and started 
prioritizing URLs that people can understand and type again (maybe partly 
because search engines started taking that into account for ranking 
purposes).

But I think we're mixing up two concerns in this thread, the link text and 
the actual URL. Raw URLs are uglier than text explaining where they go in 
most cases, but that's a different question from the URL itself. In Tones' 
example, the actual URL is the same in both links (though I'll note my 
browser does convert the %20's to actual spaces on mouseover). 

On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 1:15:19 AM UTC-5 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> *"Although the link text looks nice, hover over it and look at the URL. 
> Yuck!"*
>
> Thanks, but I still don't understand where The Islander was going with 
> that.
>
> A URL is a URL.  Not quite sure how it could be made prettier, or why it 
> would matter when the link is pretty.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 2:50:41 AM UTC-3 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Charlie;
>>
>> Use the permalink button you get 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Sort%20Filter%20Run%20Prefix thats 
>> Yuk in my view
>> Now control Panel, settings > tiddlywiki >  Display tiddler titles as 
>> links
>>
>> Now open the tiddler and highlight the title and copy, then past here Sort 
>> Filter Run Prefix 
>> 
>> Thats not yuck
>>
>> I think you may see it aint the beholder, its universal. Especially if 
>> you want to see the yuck one just mouse over.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, 8 August 2021 at 03:57:06 UTC+10 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Yuck how?  What's a non-yuck URL?
>>>
>>> Understanding, of course, that yuck is in the eye of the beholder, and 
>>> that URL's are first about being successful at getting to something on the 
>>> web.
>>>
>>> I ask because of the potential for me to gain a new insight into how 
>>> different people see things.
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 6, 2021 at 12:42:44 AM UTC-3 The Islander wrote:
>>>
 Although the link text looks nice, hover over it and look at the URL. 
 Yuck!

 On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 6:12:40 PM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote:

> Folks,
>
> I just stumbled upon something helpful. You may know how to copy a 
> permalink to a tiddler, this results in URL, and using the to clipboard 
> option is help full. the only problem is the result is an ugly URL with 
> encoding.
>
> I discovered today however if you have Control Panel > Settings > Tiddler 
> Titles 
> 
>  set 
> to Display tiddler titles as links, there is a a better choice. Or where 
> every you see a link in a tiddler eg  Learning 
>  [[Learning  |
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Learning]] copt that with you mouse.
>
> If the titles are displayed as links highlight and copy the title with 
> your mouse. The result if pasted is well formatted link eg; Navigation 
> History 
> .
>  
> It is not helpful pasting into tiddlywiki,  I will raise an issue on 
> this. 
> But it is helpful pasting links into email and forum posts. As I have 
> done 
> here.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>


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[tw5] Re: Notes from the Coalface: Pasting URL's with pretty title

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Charlie,
I do not understand either. I find pretty links nice, but I also find it 
handy to be able to hover them and see where the link in fact are going to. 
Not all pretty things turns out to be gold. Luckily that is how it works 
;-). Not Yuch, handy.

Birthe

On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 8:15:19 AM UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> *"Although the link text looks nice, hover over it and look at the URL. 
> Yuck!"*
>
> Thanks, but I still don't understand where The Islander was going with 
> that.
>
> A URL is a URL.  Not quite sure how it could be made prettier, or why it 
> would matter when the link is pretty.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 2:50:41 AM UTC-3 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Charlie;
>>
>> Use the permalink button you get 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Sort%20Filter%20Run%20Prefix thats 
>> Yuk in my view
>> Now control Panel, settings > tiddlywiki >  Display tiddler titles as 
>> links
>>
>> Now open the tiddler and highlight the title and copy, then past here Sort 
>> Filter Run Prefix 
>> 
>> Thats not yuck
>>
>> I think you may see it aint the beholder, its universal. Especially if 
>> you want to see the yuck one just mouse over.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, 8 August 2021 at 03:57:06 UTC+10 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Yuck how?  What's a non-yuck URL?
>>>
>>> Understanding, of course, that yuck is in the eye of the beholder, and 
>>> that URL's are first about being successful at getting to something on the 
>>> web.
>>>
>>> I ask because of the potential for me to gain a new insight into how 
>>> different people see things.
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 6, 2021 at 12:42:44 AM UTC-3 The Islander wrote:
>>>
 Although the link text looks nice, hover over it and look at the URL. 
 Yuck!

 On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 6:12:40 PM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote:

> Folks,
>
> I just stumbled upon something helpful. You may know how to copy a 
> permalink to a tiddler, this results in URL, and using the to clipboard 
> option is help full. the only problem is the result is an ugly URL with 
> encoding.
>
> I discovered today however if you have Control Panel > Settings > Tiddler 
> Titles 
> 
>  set 
> to Display tiddler titles as links, there is a a better choice. Or where 
> every you see a link in a tiddler eg  Learning 
>  [[Learning  |
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Learning]] copt that with you mouse.
>
> If the titles are displayed as links highlight and copy the title with 
> your mouse. The result if pasted is well formatted link eg; Navigation 
> History 
> .
>  
> It is not helpful pasting into tiddlywiki,  I will raise an issue on 
> this. 
> But it is helpful pasting links into email and forum posts. As I have 
> done 
> here.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>


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[tw5] Re: Notes from the Coalface: Pasting URL's with pretty title

[Charlie Veniot]

*"Although the link text looks nice, hover over it and look at the URL. 
Yuck!"*

Thanks, but I still don't understand where The Islander was going with that.

A URL is a URL.  Not quite sure how it could be made prettier, or why it 
would matter when the link is pretty.





On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 2:50:41 AM UTC-3 TW Tones wrote:

> Charlie;
>
> Use the permalink button you get 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Sort%20Filter%20Run%20Prefix thats Yuk 
> in my view
> Now control Panel, settings > tiddlywiki >  Display tiddler titles as links
>
> Now open the tiddler and highlight the title and copy, then past here Sort 
> Filter Run Prefix 
> 
> Thats not yuck
>
> I think you may see it aint the beholder, its universal. Especially if you 
> want to see the yuck one just mouse over.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
>
> On Sunday, 8 August 2021 at 03:57:06 UTC+10 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Yuck how?  What's a non-yuck URL?
>>
>> Understanding, of course, that yuck is in the eye of the beholder, and 
>> that URL's are first about being successful at getting to something on the 
>> web.
>>
>> I ask because of the potential for me to gain a new insight into how 
>> different people see things.
>>
>> On Friday, August 6, 2021 at 12:42:44 AM UTC-3 The Islander wrote:
>>
>>> Although the link text looks nice, hover over it and look at the URL. 
>>> Yuck!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 6:12:40 PM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote:
>>>
 Folks,

 I just stumbled upon something helpful. You may know how to copy a 
 permalink to a tiddler, this results in URL, and using the to clipboard 
 option is help full. the only problem is the result is an ugly URL with 
 encoding.

 I discovered today however if you have Control Panel > Settings > Tiddler 
 Titles 
 
  set 
 to Display tiddler titles as links, there is a a better choice. Or where 
 every you see a link in a tiddler eg  Learning 
  [[Learning  |
 https://tiddlywiki.com/#Learning]] copt that with you mouse.

 If the titles are displayed as links highlight and copy the title with 
 your mouse. The result if pasted is well formatted link eg; Navigation 
 History 
 .
  
 It is not helpful pasting into tiddlywiki,  I will raise an issue on this. 
 But it is helpful pasting links into email and forum posts. As I have done 
 here.

 Regards
 Tones

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Notes from the Coalface: Pasting URL's with pretty title

[TW Tones]

Charlie;

Use the permalink button you 
get https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Sort%20Filter%20Run%20Prefix thats 
Yuk in my view
Now control Panel, settings > tiddlywiki >  Display tiddler titles as links

Now open the tiddler and highlight the title and copy, then past here Sort 
Filter Run Prefix 

Thats not yuck

I think you may see it aint the beholder, its universal. Especially if you 
want to see the yuck one just mouse over.

Regards
Tones


On Sunday, 8 August 2021 at 03:57:06 UTC+10 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> Yuck how?  What's a non-yuck URL?
>
> Understanding, of course, that yuck is in the eye of the beholder, and 
> that URL's are first about being successful at getting to something on the 
> web.
>
> I ask because of the potential for me to gain a new insight into how 
> different people see things.
>
> On Friday, August 6, 2021 at 12:42:44 AM UTC-3 The Islander wrote:
>
>> Although the link text looks nice, hover over it and look at the URL. 
>> Yuck!
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 6:12:40 PM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I just stumbled upon something helpful. You may know how to copy a 
>>> permalink to a tiddler, this results in URL, and using the to clipboard 
>>> option is help full. the only problem is the result is an ugly URL with 
>>> encoding.
>>>
>>> I discovered today however if you have Control Panel > Settings > Tiddler 
>>> Titles 
>>> 
>>>  set 
>>> to Display tiddler titles as links, there is a a better choice. Or where 
>>> every you see a link in a tiddler eg  Learning 
>>>  [[Learning  |
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Learning]] copt that with you mouse.
>>>
>>> If the titles are displayed as links highlight and copy the title with 
>>> your mouse. The result if pasted is well formatted link eg; Navigation 
>>> History 
>>> .
>>>  
>>> It is not helpful pasting into tiddlywiki,  I will raise an issue on this. 
>>> But it is helpful pasting links into email and forum posts. As I have done 
>>> here.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tones
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Notes from the Coalface: Pasting URL's with pretty title

[The Islander]

Well here's an example.

Here's the tiddler "title" section:
https://i.imgur.com/vYKrG9Z.png

It has spaces and other non URL standard characters in it.

The url to this tiddler is: #Next-game instead of whatever escaped 
characters it should contain because the title contains them. This is all 
accomplished through pmario's uni-link plugin 
(https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/uni-link/).

Professional publications typically replace non URL standard characters 
with standard equivalents so that their URLs aren't full of escaped 
gibberish.

Examples:
https://developer.apple.com/documentation/xcode/documenting-a-swift-framework-or-package
https://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/cuda-c-best-practices-guide/index.html

The titles of the topics are used as a basis for the URLs but nonstandard 
characters are stripped out for URL "beautification".. hence non-yuck!

Hope that makes sense.




On Saturday, August 7, 2021 at 10:57:06 AM UTC-7 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> Yuck how?  What's a non-yuck URL?
>
> Understanding, of course, that yuck is in the eye of the beholder, and 
> that URL's are first about being successful at getting to something on the 
> web.
>
> I ask because of the potential for me to gain a new insight into how 
> different people see things.
>
> On Friday, August 6, 2021 at 12:42:44 AM UTC-3 The Islander wrote:
>
>> Although the link text looks nice, hover over it and look at the URL. 
>> Yuck!
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 6:12:40 PM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I just stumbled upon something helpful. You may know how to copy a 
>>> permalink to a tiddler, this results in URL, and using the to clipboard 
>>> option is help full. the only problem is the result is an ugly URL with 
>>> encoding.
>>>
>>> I discovered today however if you have Control Panel > Settings > Tiddler 
>>> Titles 
>>> 
>>>  set 
>>> to Display tiddler titles as links, there is a a better choice. Or where 
>>> every you see a link in a tiddler eg  Learning 
>>>  [[Learning  |
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Learning]] copt that with you mouse.
>>>
>>> If the titles are displayed as links highlight and copy the title with 
>>> your mouse. The result if pasted is well formatted link eg; Navigation 
>>> History 
>>> .
>>>  
>>> It is not helpful pasting into tiddlywiki,  I will raise an issue on this. 
>>> But it is helpful pasting links into email and forum posts. As I have done 
>>> here.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tones
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Notes from the Coalface: Pasting URL's with pretty title

[Charlie Veniot]

Yuck how?  What's a non-yuck URL?

Understanding, of course, that yuck is in the eye of the beholder, and that 
URL's are first about being successful at getting to something on the web.

I ask because of the potential for me to gain a new insight into how 
different people see things.

On Friday, August 6, 2021 at 12:42:44 AM UTC-3 The Islander wrote:

> Although the link text looks nice, hover over it and look at the URL. Yuck!
>
> On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 6:12:40 PM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I just stumbled upon something helpful. You may know how to copy a 
>> permalink to a tiddler, this results in URL, and using the to clipboard 
>> option is help full. the only problem is the result is an ugly URL with 
>> encoding.
>>
>> I discovered today however if you have Control Panel > Settings > Tiddler 
>> Titles 
>> 
>>  set 
>> to Display tiddler titles as links, there is a a better choice. Or where 
>> every you see a link in a tiddler eg  Learning 
>>  [[Learning  |
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Learning]] copt that with you mouse.
>>
>> If the titles are displayed as links highlight and copy the title with 
>> your mouse. The result if pasted is well formatted link eg; Navigation 
>> History 
>> .
>>  
>> It is not helpful pasting into tiddlywiki,  I will raise an issue on this. 
>> But it is helpful pasting links into email and forum posts. As I have done 
>> here.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Notes from the Coalface: Pasting URL's with pretty title

[The Islander]

Although the link text looks nice, hover over it and look at the URL. Yuck!

On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 6:12:40 PM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote:

> Folks,
>
> I just stumbled upon something helpful. You may know how to copy a 
> permalink to a tiddler, this results in URL, and using the to clipboard 
> option is help full. the only problem is the result is an ugly URL with 
> encoding.
>
> I discovered today however if you have Control Panel > Settings > Tiddler 
> Titles 
> 
>  set 
> to Display tiddler titles as links, there is a a better choice. Or where 
> every you see a link in a tiddler eg  Learning 
>  [[Learning  |
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Learning]] copt that with you mouse.
>
> If the titles are displayed as links highlight and copy the title with 
> your mouse. The result if pasted is well formatted link eg; Navigation 
> History 
> .
>  
> It is not helpful pasting into tiddlywiki,  I will raise an issue on this. 
> But it is helpful pasting links into email and forum posts. As I have done 
> here.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>

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[tw5] Re: Notes from the Coalface: Pasting URL's with pretty title

[TW Tones]

I have raised an issue here in github 
, if you support 
this please thumbs up and comment.

Tones

On Thursday, 5 August 2021 at 11:12:40 UTC+10 TW Tones wrote:

> Folks,
>
> I just stumbled upon something helpful. You may know how to copy a 
> permalink to a tiddler, this results in URL, and using the to clipboard 
> option is help full. the only problem is the result is an ugly URL with 
> encoding.
>
> I discovered today however if you have Control Panel > Settings > Tiddler 
> Titles 
> 
>  set 
> to Display tiddler titles as links, there is a a better choice. Or where 
> every you see a link in a tiddler eg  Learning 
>  [[Learning  |
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Learning]] copt that with you mouse.
>
> If the titles are displayed as links highlight and copy the title with 
> your mouse. The result if pasted is well formatted link eg; Navigation 
> History 
> .
>  
> It is not helpful pasting into tiddlywiki,  I will raise an issue on this. 
> But it is helpful pasting links into email and forum posts. As I have done 
> here.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>

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