[tw5] Re: Recents tab out of order

[Dave]

fyi, going back to Bob 1.3.3b did stop the active shifting around of the 
date headers in the recent tab, but they're still out of order

>
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[tw5] Re: Recents tab out of order

[Dave]

I'm on the beta bobExe (1.4), and as I just sit and watch the recents tab 
(Synthing is off) the date headers on it actually shift around while I'm 
doing nothing and the computer is making noises, so I'll try going back to 
1.3 and see if that fixes it.

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[tw5] Re: Recents tab out of order

[Dave]

Thanks Thomas,

I didn't know about the time update suspension, so I'll look into that.

I'm not at my computer right now but I'll get a list of other plugins later 
today.

Ha ha, no I'm only a yellow belt tiddlywikier - datePicker2 is just a slightly 
modified version that gives a differently formatted date.

I'm wondering, maybe I should research how to export all my non-system tiddlers 
into a new wiki. I'm pretty sure Bob has that capability...

- Dave

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[tw5] Re: Recents tab out of order

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Dave,

The MyStory plugin does not overwrite any core tiddlers so I cannot imagine 
it is part of the problem nor the solution. What other plugins do you use?

Other things i noticed in your report:

   - Difference between file system dates and dates in the files: The 
   modified field of AgendaTweaking and datePicker2 are not up to date 
   obviously. TW has a button to suspend timestamp updates since version 
   5.1.14 , maybe you should 
   check this?
   - You seem to be working around midnight according to the timestamps 
   (depending on your timezone, this could be wrong) – I experienced problems 
   with time calculations myself at some point in time with times close to 
   midnight. Maybe try other times to save again and see if the problem 
   persists. (And make sure you get enough sleep ;–) that helped me a lot.)
   - What is datePicker2 anyway? Are you developing something?

All the best for your life on the edge,
Thomas



Could it be interference from a plugin? maybe $:/plugins/telmiger/MyStory 
 ?

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[tw5] Re: Recents tab out of order

[Dave]

>
> Hi, my problem is back. I somehow got it fixed (see above) on one 
> computer, but the same "solution" didn't work on other instances. Here's a 
> screenshot of a section of my Recent tab (yes, I changed the date format to 
> see if that would make a difference, but no luck there). I assume the 
> slight offset in the modified dates vs the timeline dates is due to the UTC 
> thing TW does.
> in timeline:
>
>- Nov 29
>   - AgendaTweaking 
>- Dec 30
>   - other tiddlers including another thing 
>   
>- Nov28
>   - datePicker2 
>
> in the files:
>
>- AgendaTweaking 
>   - modified: 2019113655910
>- another thing 
>   - modified: 20191230154836798
>- datePicker2 
>   - modified: 20191129013329823
>
> file system modified dates:
>
>- AgendaTweaking 
>   - Dec 6
>- another thing 
>   - Dec 30
>- datePicker2 
>   - Dec 6
>
> Could it be interference from a plugin? maybe $:/plugins/telmiger/MyStory 
>  ?
>

p.s., sorry for the weird formatting, I prewrote this in a tiddler and 
that's the color theme on my TW 

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[tw5] Re: Recents tab out of order

[Dave]

I suspect its because I use a taboo combination: Bob + Syncthing and 
sometimes Bob and Syncthing clash and alter some of my tiddlers.

"If you're not living on the edge you're taking up too much room" ;)

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[tw5] Re: Recents tab out of order

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

The only lingering question is whether there was a reason for that tiddler 
to have been altered ;-)

On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 10:13:08 AM UTC-8, Dave wrote:
>
> I'd mark this "Complete" but I don't see how to do that
>

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[tw5] Re: Recents tab out of order

[Dave]

I'd mark this "Complete" but I don't see how to do that

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[tw5] Re: Recents tab out of order

[Dave]

Thank you - that worked!

Mental note: if a built-in function is not working (you get that "don't 
mess with shadow tiddlers" edit message) deleting that tiddler will 
(probably) reset things

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[tw5] Re: Recents tab out of order

[Ton Gerner]

Hi Dave,

On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 5:53:25 PM UTC+1, Dave wrote:
>
> Ton, here's my finding (see attached): there's no "recent" in there but 
> there is the "default sidebar tab" which has a TableOfContents in there 
> (but it worked before this)
>
> The  weird thing is that when I go to the "More" tab, the recents there is 
> correct
>
>  
Upon inspection the (sidebar) Recent tab ($:/core/ui/SideBar/Recent) and 
the More > Recent tab ($:/core/ui/MoreSideBar/Recent) are different 
tiddlers (and with different tags $:/tags/SideBar & $:/tags/MoreSideBar) 
but contain the same code:

<$macrocall $name="timeline" 
format={{$:/language/RecentChanges/DateFormat}}/>

It looks like $:/core/ui/SideBar/Recent is in the list of overridden shadow 
tiddlers (at least I see it in your picture).
If that is the case, just delete $:/core/ui/SideBar/Recent and the original 
shadow tiddler will be active again.

Hope that helps.

Cheers,

Ton

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[tw5] Re: Recents tab out of order

[Dave]

Ton, here's my finding (see attached): there's no "recent" in there but 
there is the "default sidebar tab" which has a TableOfContents in there 
(but it worked before this)

The  weird thing is that when I go to the "More" tab, the recents there is 
correct

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[tw5] Re: Recents tab out of order

[PMario]

Hi,
Recent means "recently edited" so it depends on the "modified" field.
-m

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[tw5] Re: Recents tab out of order

[Ton Gerner]

Hi Dave,

May be an overridden shadow tiddler $:/core/ui/MoreSideBar/Recent?

Check with Controlpanel > Info > Basics

Click at the bottom the Advanced search icon next to the number of 
overridden shadow tiddlers.

Hope that helps.

Cheers,

Ton


On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 2:16:38 AM UTC+1, Dave wrote:
>
> Why would the recents tab get out of order like this? (see attached)
>
> Here's the order of dates from top to bottom: 
> 3rd November 2019
> 2nd November 2019
> 15th December 2019
> 12th December 2019
> 11th December 2019
> 10th December 2019
> 9th December 2019
> 5th December 2019
> 4th December 2019
> 3rd December 2019
> 13th December 2019
> 28th November 2019
>
> etc.
>

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