[tw5] Re: tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot site stuck on step 2

[A Gloom]

> Hi A Gloom, I'm the creator of tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com (...not of 
> tiddlyspot itself). 
>

Thank you for the quick reply, I saw you fielding questions in earlier 
posts about tiddlyspot problems, so I'm glad you notices my post : )

(this has nothing to do with the controlpanel tiddler in a TW)
>

The control panel for tiddlyspot, I figured
 

> If you cannot log in there, then that site ID was either already taken or 
> you have somehow messed up with the password and are not using the same one 
> that you registered with. If you cannot access then there is nothing that 
> can be done and you should create another tiddlyspot with another site ID.
>

I was able to get into control panel with the same pw I was using in Step 2 
(I've been sopying n pasting from a text file to avoid typing errors-- u 
use convulted pw's)
 
the control panel shows no email set and the creation date/time when I 
created the account-- Step 1 on the tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot site but the 
file size (400 kb) looks like TWC not 5.1.19

I shall try again with FF with another id, then maybe try with TWDesktop, 
not interested in installing Chrome-- I hope TWDesktop uses Windows High 
Contrast Black

or... in a previous post it looked like I could overwrite the TWC with my 
local TW5 file?

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[tw5] Re: Page media and Tiddlers

[TonyM]

Mat

Google schmoogle. Its not helping so much. Also tiddlywiki is a html page its 
self so some css effects the whole page so I can't use the examples as I want 
to operate on the tiddler level. Eg with a html div.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Competition for v5.1.21 artwork

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Thomas

Nice and bold!

Maybe a bit too much empty space?

J, x

On Tuesday, 13 August 2019 21:59:42 UTC+2, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> So here’s my tuppenceworth ;–)
>
> PNG: 13 KB / SVG: < 4 KB (attached)
>
>
> Cheers, Thomas
>
>
>> Great idea with the contest, I have one question about the coditions: SVG 
>> is not allowed?
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Competition for v5.1.21 artwork

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Birthe

I find it an interesting image...

[image: Annotation 2019-08-13 194755.jpg]



Its probably the wrong size and dimension for JR's needs, but since we 
talking of images that convey about TW I thought it interesting to show.

Its "5"; 
> it conveys idea of "making" as the 5 are obviously each a "bricolage"; 
> it has a friendly feeling; 
> conveys its more than computer men.


I liked also the "visual pun" on *5. *
"5" is unexplored territory but actually might be used well in promotion ...

  -- The Five faces of TiddlyWiki

  -- Five ways to use Tiddlywiki

  -- Five people I know who  TiddlyWiki

etc ...

Finally, you know, those old light-bulbs & valves (used to be in radios) go 
on forever,

Best wishes
Josiah

On Tuesday, 13 August 2019 20:20:12 UTC+2, Birthe C wrote:
>
> Hi TiddlyTweeter,
>
> They could maybe enlighten us? I like that it looks as if 2 of them are 
> wearing skirts, a little bit longer for the thin one. 
> Are they build to burn out fast - I hope not.
>
>
> Birthe
>

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[tw5] Re: Using TiddlyWiki in multiple tabs?

[Klaus]

This indeed does what I wanted :)

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 12:31:43 AM UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>
> Here's a simpler solution
>
> In the Ctrolpanel, exchange the wiki title for the following:
>
> {{$:/HistoryList!!current-tiddler}} 
> TiddlyWiki
>
> I'm here assuming what you're requesting is for the *browser tab* to show 
> the title of the current tiddler
>
> If you really want to see the name of the current tidldler all the time in 
> the in the left bar, you just remove the div tags and only keep that 
> transclusion part.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Using TiddlyWiki in multiple tabs?

[Mat]

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 1:37:27 PM UTC+2, Klaus wrote:
>
> Correction: It does so almost. The title doesn't get updated when I close 
> a tiddler.
>

I believe this is because currentTiddler is still the same even if you 
close it. What you might interpret to be the new currentTiddler isn't - it 
is merely that closing a tiddler shrinks the tiddler river so "something" 
ends up where you're looking. It still doesn't have the focus.

Personally I have a solution for another issue that incidentally also 
solves this; I've modified my "close" and "delete" buttons to also actively 
navigate to the tiddler *above* the closed one, instead of visually having 
the succeeding one be dragged up into view. This active navigation also 
sets the currentTiddler (...at least I assume it does). If you're 
interested I could post my code for these modified buttons. 

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Using TiddlyWiki in multiple tabs?

[Klaus]

Correction: It does so almost. The title doesn't get updated when I close a 
tiddler.

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 1:36:29 PM UTC+2, Klaus wrote:
>
> This indeed does what I wanted :)
>
> On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 12:31:43 AM UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>>
>> Here's a simpler solution
>>
>> In the Ctrolpanel, exchange the wiki title for the following:
>>
>> {{$:/HistoryList!!current-tiddler}} 
>> TiddlyWiki
>>
>> I'm here assuming what you're requesting is for the *browser tab* to 
>> show the title of the current tiddler
>>
>> If you really want to see the name of the current tidldler all the time 
>> in the in the left bar, you just remove the div tags and only keep that 
>> transclusion part.
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>

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[tw5] Folding

[Matthew Liberman]

Is there an elegant way to have folding sections of tiddlers? I've seen some 
hacks with buttons but i want to have the usual tiddler folding so i can have 
each tag transclude tiddlers tagged with it, but have each of those be 
initially folded.

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Re: [tw5] Folding

[Aidan Grey]

Will the reveal widget not do what you need?

On Wed, Aug 14, 2019, 2:51 PM Matthew Liberman, <
matthew.iakov.liber...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is there an elegant way to have folding sections of tiddlers? I've seen
> some hacks with buttons but i want to have the usual tiddler folding so i
> can have each tag transclude tiddlers tagged with it, but have each of
> those be initially folded.
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[tw5] Re: Doubled Single Quotes Behavior in text/vnd.tiddlywiki format - do these need to be escaped or is it a bug?

[Cade Roux]

I have decided to go ahead and use the backticks around it and (also to be 
careful when that text is empty to not put two consecutive backticks).

I'm changing up the markup to generally use TW for now and potentially move 
to XML in front of that with an XSLT to transform to TW or other targets 
depending on how the prototype is received.

Thanks,

Cade

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 4:24:17 PM UTC-5, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi, 
>
> If you want to disable some wikitext rules you can put the 
>
> \rules except bold 
>
> pragma  at the very beginning of the 
> tiddler. So double single quotes will no longer start a "bold" text 
> section. 
>
> hope that helps
> -mario
>

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[tw5] Re: Doubled Single Quotes Behavior in text/vnd.tiddlywiki format - do these need to be escaped or is it a bug?

[PMario]

Hi, 

If you want to disable some wikitext rules you can put the 

\rules except bold 

pragma  at the very beginning of the 
tiddler. So double single quotes will no longer start a "bold" text 
section. 

hope that helps
-mario

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[tw5] Re: Folding

[Eric Shulman]

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 1:51:23 PM UTC-7, Matthew Liberman wrote:
 

> Is there an elegant way to have folding sections of tiddlers? I've seen 
> some hacks with buttons but i want to have the usual tiddler folding so i 
> can have each tag transclude tiddlers tagged with it, but have each of 
> those be initially folded.


First, create a tiddler, tagged with "$:/tags/Macro", containing:
\define foldit()
<$reveal state="$:/state/folded/$(currentTiddler)$" type="match" text="show"
>
   <$button set="$:/state/folded/$(currentTiddler)$" setTo="hide" class=
"tc-btn-invisible"><$text text="$(currentTiddler)$" />
   <$transclude tiddler="$(currentTiddler)$" mode="block"/>

<$reveal state="$:/state/folded/$(currentTiddler)$" type="nomatch" text="
show">
   <$button set="$:/state/folded/$(currentTiddler)$" setTo="show" class="tc-
btn-invisible"><$text text="$(currentTiddler)$" />
   

\end

Use it like this:
<$list filter="[tag[TableOfContents]]">
   <>


enjoy,

-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools: "Small Tools for Big Ideas!" (tm) http://tiddlytools.github.io 
(TWClassic)
InsideTiddlyWiki: The Missing Manuals


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[tw5] Marking "Complete" on a thread

[A Gloom]

There was mention of whom should mark "Complete" on a thread...

I haven't seen a way as a thread creator to make my own threads as 
"Comlete"-- I only see that option on other people's threads

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[tw5] Re: tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot site stuck on step 2

[A Gloom]

Pleased to say I finished the setup process using latest version of Opera-- 
Birtha C mentioned Chromium and I've been needing to reinstall Opera so i 
made it a priority.

My gratitude Mat & Birtha C-- especially for the generous offer to upload 
yourself.

Concerning tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot site-- I had no problems understanding 
it, it is well written and laid out-- nice job...

just that FF fails in the setup process-- you may want to make a note of 
that on the setup page.

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[tw5] add 'Telegram Comments for websites' to TiddlyWiki

[PLATO]

Telegram Comments for websites:https://comments.app/ 

for example:
https://comments.app/js/widget.js?2"; 
data-comments-app-website="nscXtdcp" data-limit="5">

but,It can't work.
How can make tiddlywiki support 

[tw5] Re: How do I create a task with a check mark

[Birthe C]

Hi Mike Jones,

I am not really sure what you are doing. If you are looking at the example 
on Tiddlywiki.com  open the tiddler for edit and you will see how it is put 
together. Now having this in your wiki, creating a new tiddler with tag 
task will be added to that list.


Birthe

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[tw5] Code that no longer works following upgrade to version 5.1.20

[TonyM]

Should the subfilter not include square brackets in it to deal with titles with 
spaces and other delimiters?

tony

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[tw5] Re: Generating a complete TiddlyWiki from Excel

[Paul Richardson]

Thanks for your detailed reply, I'll look into those ideas.

Paul

On Monday, 12 August 2019 13:53:49 UTC+1, Paul Richardson wrote:
>
> Good afternoon, complete beginner here.
>
> I maintain a reference document for my organisation which has some 
> pre-amble and then is essentially a large table. The user looks through the 
> table for their particular area of interest and then is given a particular 
> category/label for their information. The document is also shared with 
> partner organisations and suppliers and needs to be presented in a portable 
> format - and it cannot be shared on the internet or in a collaborative 
> manner. The document has three levels e.g. section 1, section 1.1, section 
> 1.1.1 (although in some places 1.1.1.1).
>
> [image: Untitled.png]
>
> As the document is quite wordy (with footnotes) it is currently maintained 
> in Word, but I would like to move away from this, and have been playing 
> with TiddlyWiki. As I still need to provide the Word version, what I would 
> quite like to do is have a master database (probably in Excel) which then 
> auto-populates the Word document *and* the TiddlyWiki version. 
>
> I am familiar with the principles of markup laguage and I have managed to 
> get as far as getting Excel to generate the code for the table rows, and 
> have successfully pasted these into a tiddler manually. 
>
> |4.1|Wordy description of situation A| class4 
> | class4 | class2 
> |
> |4.11|Wordy description of situation B| class3 div> | class3 | class1 |
>
>
> [image: Capture.JPG]
>
> However I then wanted to get Excel to generate the code for the whole 
> tiddler itself, (the ), but when I paste 
> the complete tiddler ( header and the content and the  closing) 
> into the HTML directly (just after the tiddlers I created in tiddlywiki), 
> this doesn't seem to work. It looks identical in format to other tiddlers I 
> have added in the usual manner, so there must be other parts of the HTML I 
> need to edit.. (I can see my tiddlers both in the "static" area and in one 
> other place and have added equivalent entries in both).
>
>  title="Description">
> |4.1|Wordy description of situation A| class4
>  | class4 | 
> class2 |
> |4.11|Wordy description of situation B| class3
>  | class3 | 
> class1 |
> 
>
> I know the HTML isn't intended to be directly edited but what can I say!
>
> So my immediate question is, which parts of the HTML file do I need to 
> insert code into in order to add a working tiddler? 
> My other question is - is my objective even possible or will there be too 
> many other unseen hurdles and complications along the way? 
>
> (I suppose the alternative approach is to maintain the master version in 
> TiddlyWiki and then find a way of exporting the whole document to Word, but 
> it needs to be clean and professional).
>
> Thank you!
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Page media and Tiddlers

[@TiddlyTweeter]

A big issue is getting precise practical information on steps to wanted 
print outcomes. The issue is that you have several levels of potential 
complexity (base HTML/CSS combo; browser interpolation; printer 
parameters). The browser side is much better than it was on 
cross-compliance, but its not perfect. AND the number of tech people 
needing precision in printing is actually far lower than struggling 
end-users, like, for instance, academics who often do. So explicit info 
that is practical is in fairly short supply.

IMO you have to get one step sorted at a time. BTW, personally I use 
PRINTER/PDF to always evaluate. I do not trust the screen on this, apart 
from PDF.

Best wishes
TT

On Wednesday, 14 August 2019 05:54:58 UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks
>
> I continue on this journey and have a basic approach established. Which I 
> will publish sooner of later
>
>
>- However there is reference to the *CSS box model *and specifically 
>the *@page *model.
>- If I knew how to leverage this I would be able to build pages with a 
>higher level of sophistication including accessing page numbers and more.
>- See this w3C Document 
> Especially 
>Table 1 Page-Margin Box Definitions
>
>
> Can anyone give me even the simplex clue how you use this *CSS box model *and 
> specifically the *@page *model.
>
> I am slow close to being able to develop a fantastic page layout and 
> printing tool, if anyone can give me a nudge?
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Code that no longer works following upgrade to version 5.1.20

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mervin

I’m not sure without seeing more context but I think the problem may be this 
fix from v5.1.18:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/ 


Previously, `$(variable)$` substitutions were performed regardless of how the 
macro was defined (even if it was actually defined with the set widget). Now 
such substitutions are only performed for macros defined with the \def pragma.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


> On 14 Aug 2019, at 04:32, 'mervin mecklenburg' via TiddlyWiki 
>  wrote:
> 
> After I upgraded to version 5.1.20 from 5.1.16, the following code no longer 
> works.
> 
> \define droppable-today(somevar)
> <$action-listops $tiddler=<> $field="tags" 
> $subfilter="-$(somevar)$"/>
> \end
> 
> 
> 
> <$set name='somevar' value={{!!title}}>
> 
> <>
> 
> <$droppable actions=<>>Drop here
> 
> In the original version, the code performed two functions.  It created a list 
> if titles of tiddlers with a certain tag, and the list could be resorted 
> using drag and drop.  The bottom line removed the tag, and by doing so 
> dropped items dragged to that point from the list.  Both of these functions 
> no longer work following the upgrade.  Can anyone explain why?
> 
> Merv
> 
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Re: [tw5] Re: Competition for v5.1.21 artwork

[Jeremy Ruston]

Thanks to everyone for the enthusiasm on this thread! It’s fun, and much better 
that the artwork should come from the community than me. (Actually the last two 
banners were made by friends of mine as I was running out of ideas!).

We haven’t discussed how the winner will be picked. A popularity contest seems 
the obvious way, even though I don’t like the way that it has the slightly 
unfortunate side effect of drawing attention to “losers” as well as “winners”.

Anyhow, I’ve set up a Google Form with the entries so far:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfki3NyRcLt5owJ00w9S7FdCYZ8rsSIuPhCr31pfpb7ijeVNw/viewform
 


It’s open for votes now, but I’ve set it up so that you can edit your response 
(you’ll need to save the link you’re given after submission).

The form is set up for anonymous usage, and doesn’t gather email addresses. 
That means that there’s nothing stopping abuses like voting multiple times.

I suggest that we accept submissions for another 10 days or so. I’m happy to 
accept updates to existing submissions but please remember that I generally 
read this group via email, and so will not see any edits to your posts unless 
you draw my attention to them.

Best wishes

Jeremy



> On 14 Aug 2019, at 09:37, @TiddlyTweeter  wrote:
> 
> Ciao Thomas
> 
> Nice and bold!
> 
> Maybe a bit too much empty space?
> 
> J, x
> 
> On Tuesday, 13 August 2019 21:59:42 UTC+2, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
> So here’s my tuppenceworth ;–)
> 
> PNG: 13 KB / SVG: < 4 KB (attached)
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers, Thomas
> 
> 
> Great idea with the contest, I have one question about the coditions: SVG is 
> not allowed?
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[tw5] Re: tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot site stuck on step 2

[Birthe C]

Hi Mat,

I love your work, but it seems to me, that it is often misunderstood. You 
explain it very well, I would think on http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com
In fact you do that on the very first lines. 

@A Gloom

Using it you get a copy of Mat's wiki on your own newly created tiddlyspot. 
after creating your new wiki, do not follow the link, but continue on Mat's 
site until finished and saved.
You are still left to deal with your own wiki, to drag and drop or import 
tiddlers into the wiki, you created this way.

I have not had any success uploading any local TW using anything but Chrome 
or Chromium.

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot site stuck on step 2

[Mat]

OK, going into controlpanel was merely a test to ensure that you are using 
the correct password.

Yes, the idea is that the tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com wiki is uploaded to 
overwrite the TWC that by default is there when the spot is created.

When you upload the TW5 onto it for the first time, you should use chrome. 
Thereafter it should be no problem to save stuff using FF when you're using 
it. You could perhaps also try it from another computer, who knows.

If you don't succeed in uploading, you can send the tiddlyspot url to me 
and the password, perhaps a temporary one or if you change it afterwards, 
and I can see if I can upload it. I don't have any magic tools or anything, 
I will do exactly what you (probably) are attempting.

<:-)

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Re: [tw5] Populate Select drop-down from folder structure

[Felix Küppers]

Thanks, glad to hear this :) Developing a project management application sounds 
interesting, I hope you find a good way to "hack" yourself through TiddlyWiki 
(and TiddlyMap) to achieve your goal ;)

Regards

Felix

On 8/13/19 1:29 AM, MagoArcade wrote:
Thanks for your replies, all. Especially to Felix as that looks ideal - just 
need to find some time to have a tinker.

btw, Felix - it was your TiddlyMap plugin and Gould's Dropboard plugin that 
inspired me to get coding in tw! I'm trying to pull it all together to make a 
project management application - so thanks for such a great plugin!
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[tw5] Re: TW5 Advice on upgrading to new 5.1.20

[@magasine]

I found a 
$:/tags/StartupAction

  tagged tiddler with a macro that was generating the problem, although I 
didn't understand the exact cause of the problem.

Em segunda-feira, 12 de agosto de 2019 12:11:09 UTC-3, @magasine escreveu:
>
> In my experience, after upgrading 5.1.19 / 5.1.20, when loading the file, 
> the browser returns me the following error warning:
>
> [image: TW Internal Javascript Error.PNG]
>
>
> Em sexta-feira, 9 de agosto de 2019 13:57:58 UTC-3, Jon escreveu:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> received the following message:
>>
>>  import - 17:51:47 9 8 2019 (count: 1096)
>>> You are about to import a tiddler that will overwrite a core module 
>>> tiddler. This is not recommended as it may make the system unstable
>>
>>
>> Can't imagine what this would be but there doesn't appear to be an option 
>> to identify the offending tiddler from the list so as not to import it.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Jon
>>
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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

The example for "lookup" operator doesn't seem to use the default "show". 
That is, it shows the 
same list as the example without the default. The default "show" is never 
used -- just blanks.

Using FF 68.0.2 Win 7


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Re: [tw5] Re: Competition for v5.1.21 artwork

[Jeremy Ruston]

Thanks Matt I've updated the artwork on Google Forms,

Best wishes

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> On 14 Aug 2019, at 18:16, Matt R <3ntr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Just made an update, finally got the gradient the way I wanted it. Much 
> happier with this. Thoughts appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
> - Matt
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[tw5] How do I create a task with a check mark

[Mike Jones]

I want to make a task list but the example was unclear on how to add tasks 
to a list...

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Re: [tw5] Re: Competition for v5.1.21 artwork

[Pit.W.]

Hi Thomas,


    I like that one, it has the cat as a brand logo.


Good from a marketing perspetcive


Pit.W

Am 13.08.2019 um 21:59 schrieb Thomas Elmiger:

So here’s my tuppenceworth ;–)

PNG: 13 KB / SVG: < 4 KB (attached)

Cheers, Thomas



Great idea with the contest, I have one question about the
coditions: SVG is not allowed?

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[tw5] Re: How do I create a task with a check mark

[Mike Jones]

I added the task tag to it but nothing converted to tasks what is the 
markup I need to use? 

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 11:44:17 AM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> This example may help: https://ooktech.com/TiddlyWiki/SimpleTaskList
>
> If you are talking about the example on tiddlywiki.com the answer is to 
> make a tiddler with the tag task
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Re: [tw5] Code that no longer works following upgrade to version 5.1.20

[Michael Wiktowy]

Thanks for the explanation. I was wondering what had broken with one of my 
projects but didn't have the time to troubleshoot. This note saved me a 
great deal of head-scratching.

In this case, Mervin was using it in the context of a macro call. I can see 
how this can be worked around using <$macrocall name=<>/> in 
place of the <<>> syntax.

However, in my case, I was using it in a transclusion template like 
{{$(variable)$||some_custom_tag_pill_tiddler}}. In looking at the 
instructions for the full TranscludeWidget, I can do <$transclude 
tiddler=<> field="title"/> but is there a way to specify the 
template? I was able to workaround things by making a macro like you 
indicated containing the above {{||}} transclusion template but am I 
missing something in that the full transcludeWidget is not able to use a 
template tiddler? I did try adding a "template=" section but it didn't work.

/Mike

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 6:00:08 AM UTC-3, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
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> Hi Mervin
>
> I’m not sure without seeing more context but I think the problem may be 
> this fix from v5.1.18:
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/
>
> Previously, `$(variable)$` substitutions were performed regardless of how 
> the macro was defined (even if it was actually defined with the set 
> widget). Now such substitutions are only performed for macros defined with 
> the \def pragma.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> On 14 Aug 2019, at 04:32, 'mervin mecklenburg' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
> After I upgraded to version 5.1.20 from 5.1.16, the following code no 
> longer works.
>
> \define droppable-today(somevar)
> <$action-listops $tiddler=<> $field="tags" 
> $subfilter="-$(somevar)$"/>
> \end
>
>
>
> <$set name='somevar' value={{!!title}}>
>
> <>
>
> <$droppable actions=<>>Drop here
>
> In the original version, the code performed two functions.  It created a 
> list if titles of tiddlers with a certain tag, and the list could be 
> resorted using drag and drop.  The bottom line removed the tag, and by 
> doing so dropped items dragged to that point from the list.  Both of these 
> functions no longer work following the upgrade.  Can anyone explain why?
>
> Merv
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Re: [tw5] Code that no longer works following upgrade to version 5.1.20

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Michael

> 
> However, in my case, I was using it in a transclusion template like 
> {{$(variable)$||some_custom_tag_pill_tiddler}}. In looking at the 
> instructions for the full TranscludeWidget, I can do <$transclude 
> tiddler=<> field="title"/> but is there a way to specify the 
> template? I was able to workaround things by making a macro like you 
> indicated containing the above {{||}} transclusion template but am I missing 
> something in that the full transcludeWidget is not able to use a template 
> tiddler? I did try adding a "template=" section but it didn't work.

The tiddler referenced by the transclude widget is the one that is used as a 
template. If you want to set a different currentTiddler for it to display then 
you can use the <$tiddler> widget wrapped around the transclude widget. (The 
{{tiddler|template]} syntax is a shortcut for a tiddler widget targeting the 
tiddler wrapped around a transclude widget targeting the template).

Best wishes

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Re: [tw5] Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Tony

> Do you think this is a bug?

It’s a subtle difference in the handling of missing fields between two slightly 
different formulations.

Using the advanced search “filter” tab on tw.com , 
[{HelloThere!!missing}] returns 1 result (an empty string), while 
[[HelloThere]get[missing]] returns zero results.

The history is that the transclusion syntax came first, at some point we 
realised that not being able to distinguish between a missing field and a blank 
field was a problem, and so we “fixed” it by adding the new get operator (we 
couldn’t change the behaviour of the transclusion syntax without breaking 
backwards compatibility).

Best wishes

Jeremy.


> 
> Regards
> Tony
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 2:57:28 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
> Tony
> 
> This works for me
> {{{ [{!!tiddler-mode}match[test]then{$:/SiteTitle}else{$:/SiteSubtitle}] }}}
> 
> 
> Furthermore semantically I like to have if then else.
> 
> --Mohammad
> 
> On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 9:05:26 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> The following is not working
> {{{ [{!!tiddler-mode}else{$:/config/wiki-mode}] }}}
> and not returning the content of $:/config/wiki-mode when the field on the 
> current tiddler is empty?
> 
> Am I correct thinking this because else can only return a string in the 
> parameter?
> 
> Regards
> Tony
> 
> On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 12:57:44 AM UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> I’m delighted to announce the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20:
> 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/ 
> 
> This release is massive. Some of the many highlights:
> 
> * New conditional filter operators “then” and “else”
> * New mathematics and string filter operators
> * Improved handling of duplicates in filters
> * Improved keyboard shortcuts
> * New saver for saving the single file version direct to GitHub or GitLab
> * New BrowserStorage plugin for saving tiddlers in browser local storage
> * New InnerWiki plugin for rendering TiddlyWiki screenshots
> * New and improved translations for Catalan, Chinese Simplified and Chinese 
> Traditional, French, German, US English
> * Several new performance optimisations
> * New palettes and a new palette manager for more easily editing them
> * New and fixed animations for several system actions
> * Improved handling of JSON files
> * New mechanism to add plugins to a wiki from the command line
> * New “savewikifolder” and “deletetiddlers" commands for Node.js
> * Many bug fixes
> 
> You can upgrade your existing single file wikis at: 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html 
> 
> As usual, please exercise caution when working with an upgrade, and take care 
> to take plenty of backups. Comments and questions welcome.
> 
> It only remains to offer my sincere thanks to the many people who gave up 
> their time and talents to contribute to this release.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki node command line issue importing and/or rendering for offline

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Cade

I’m glad you got it sorted. The trick is to use "tiddlywiki ./DataDictionary 
--verbose --init server” to initialise the wiki folder, which automatically 
includes the required plugins in tiddlywiki.info 

Best wishes

Jeremy

> On 12 Aug 2019, at 18:44, Cade Roux  wrote:
> 
> For the benefit of anyone coming behind me, I think the issue was that the 
> --init initialization of the TiddlyWiki did not have the plugins in the 
> tiddlywiki.info  file:
> 
> "tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb", "tiddlywiki/filesystem"
> 
> This seems to help several things in generation now.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Cade
> 
> On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 3:19:53 PM UTC-5, Cade Roux wrote:
> I am importing a JSON array of 10 Tiddlers with title and text properties 
> only.
> 
> After running the command below, I have a tiddlywiki.info 
>  file in the folder, an output folder with an empty 
> index.html file and no sign of the tiddlers.
> 
> This is what the JSON file looks like:
> 
> [
> {
> "title" : "SCHEMA Config"
> ,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
> }
> ,{
> "title" : "SCHEMA DataMart"
> ,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
> }
> ,{
> "title" : "SCHEMA db_securityadmin"
> ,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
> }
> ,{
> "title" : "SCHEMA dbo"
> ,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
> }
> ,{
> "title" : "SCHEMA Doc"
> ,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
> }
> ,{
> "title" : "SCHEMA ETL"
> ,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
> }
> ,{
> "title" : "SCHEMA Logging"
> ,"text" : "Module: LOG\nDescription: Logging schema"
> }
> ,{
> "title" : "AscendDataMart SCHEMA Modeling"
> ,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
> }
> ,{
> "title" : "AscendDataMart SCHEMA Notify"
> ,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
> }
> ,{
> "title" : "AscendDataMart SCHEMA TEST"
> ,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
> }
> ]
> 
> 
> >tiddlywiki ./DataDictionary --verbose --init empty
> Boot log:
>   Startup task: load-modules
>   Startup task: info after: load-modules before: startup
>   Startup task: startup after: load-modules
>   Startup task: story after: startup
>   Startup task: commands platforms: node after: story
> Executing command: init empty
> Copied edition 'empty' to ./DataDictionary
> 
> >tiddlywiki ./DataDictionary --verbose --import tiddlers.json application/json
> Boot log:
>   Startup task: load-modules
>   Startup task: info after: load-modules before: startup
>   Startup task: startup after: load-modules
>   Startup task: story after: startup
>   Startup task: commands platforms: node after: story
> Executing command: import tiddlers.json application/json
> 10 tiddler(s) imported
> 
> >tiddlywiki ./DataDictionary --verbose --rendertiddler 
> >$:/plugins/tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb/save/offline index.html text/plain
> Boot log:
>   Startup task: load-modules
>   Startup task: info after: load-modules before: startup
>   Startup task: startup after: load-modules
>   Startup task: story after: startup
>   Startup task: commands platforms: node after: story
> Executing command: rendertiddler $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb/save/offline 
> index.html text/plain
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[tw5] Re: Polly (3) -- Downloads as HUB

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Mark S. wrote:
>
> Ok. Standing by ..
>

Ciao Mark

Confirm "Parrot Now" works well. It is a VERY useful advanced feature of 
Polly.  (For instance my test included using Polly "Parrot Now" as an easy 
way to maintain a partial mirror of Polly herself that is archived to the 
cloud along with some wiki via clone to an auto-upload dir).

I need do longer term, more complex, testing to fully confirm.

There are minor issues that I think are just cosmetic. I'll document them 
on GitHub.

I hope my attempt to bring into one, the 2 generations of you and the 1.5 
of me in polly-01Na-TT hasn't damaged anything! 

My additions, apart from in main script, includes tools related to 
understanding working with settings under the three PowerShell Core o/s

*.\dev\do-pathcheck.ps1* tool to check any path to dirs or files, allows 
relative addressing on check and wildcards;

*.\dev\do-grabwiki.ps1* experimental tool to capture directory listings for 
wikis and bulk convert into *.ini* data, allows relative addressing on 
check and wildcards


I doubt we'd put these in a release but may use the code in 
*.\lib\do-settings.ps1* later

They are useful in testing at least.

I'll comment on GitHub on details.

polly-01Na-TT here: 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12auDrY6Kg5PFkyZjqAR2JRDEaF4WZB_x/view?usp=sharing
 
(its changed/added items ONLY)

Best wishes
TT 

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[tw5] How do I create a task with a check mark

[Jed Carty]

This example may help: https://ooktech.com/TiddlyWiki/SimpleTaskList

If you are talking about the example on tiddlywiki.com the answer is to make a 
tiddler with the tag task

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Re: [tw5] Re: Competition for v5.1.21 artwork

[Thomas Elmiger]

Thank you, Pit!

The idea with the icon was to have one more element besides font and colour. 
The icon could be changed to something indicating a special feature of a new 
release.

Cheers, 
Thomas 

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Following Jeremy's comments, since "enlist" will collapse strings, you can 
do this fairly cleanly:

{{{ [enlist{!!tiddler-mode}else{wiki-mode}] }}}

(Sorry, I shortened tiddler $:/config/wiki-mode for visibility)

Or at least it worked in my tests.

Thanks!

-- Mark

On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 9:35:26 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> The following is not working
> {{{ [{!!tiddler-mode}else{$:/config/wiki-mode}] }}}
> and not returning the content of $:/config/wiki-mode when the field on 
> the current tiddler is empty?
>
> Am I correct thinking this because else can only return a string in the 
> parameter?
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 12:57:44 AM UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> I’m delighted to announce the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20:
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>>
>> This release is massive. Some of the many highlights:
>>
>> * New conditional filter operators “then” and “else”
>> * New mathematics and string filter operators
>> * Improved handling of duplicates in filters
>> * Improved keyboard shortcuts
>> * New saver for saving the single file version direct to GitHub or GitLab
>> * New BrowserStorage plugin for saving tiddlers in browser local storage
>> * New InnerWiki plugin for rendering TiddlyWiki screenshots
>> * New and improved translations for Catalan, Chinese Simplified and 
>> Chinese Traditional, French, German, US English
>> * Several new performance optimisations
>> * New palettes and a new palette manager for more easily editing them
>> * New and fixed animations for several system actions
>> * Improved handling of JSON files
>> * New mechanism to add plugins to a wiki from the command line
>> * New “savewikifolder” and “deletetiddlers" commands for Node.js
>> * Many bug fixes
>>
>> You can upgrade your existing single file wikis at: 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>>
>> As usual, please exercise caution when working with an upgrade, and take 
>> care to take plenty of backups. Comments and questions welcome.
>>
>> It only remains to offer my sincere thanks to the many people who gave up 
>> their time and talents to contribute to this release.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Forget that. You probably don't want the output as a link.

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 9:50:21 AM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Following Jeremy's comments, since "enlist" will collapse strings, you can 
> do this fairly cleanly:
>
> {{{ [enlist{!!tiddler-mode}else{wiki-mode}] }}}
>
> (Sorry, I shortened tiddler $:/config/wiki-mode for visibility)
>
> Or at least it worked in my tests.
>
> Thanks!
>
>

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