[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[A Gloom]

breakthru

https://www.google.com/search?q=list+of+health+belgium+agency

\define nhagooglesearch(suffix,linktitle)
https://www.google.com/search?q=list+of+health+$suffix$+agency"; 
rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><$list 
filter="$linktitle$">$linktitle$<$reveal type="match" default="" 
text="$linktitle$">$suffix$
\end

!!__HEALTH AGENCY LINKS__:

__INTERNATIONAL__: WHO > https://www.who.int/

|YOUR NATION: |<$edit-text tiddler="$:/temp/nhasearch" placeholder="type in 
your nation" tag="input" type="text"/> |<$set name="gsearch" 
value={{$:/temp/nhasearch}}><> 
{{$:/temp/nhasearch}} |

//Type in your nation's name in the text edit box and click on "Page link 
for (search term)" which will open a Google search for your nation's 
national health organization in a new browser tab//
• add "+" or "-" between search terms as desired
• __IMPORTANT__: to use quote marks around search terms, use ``%22`` 
instead of ``"``

Once you find the national health organization of your nation, you can copy 
the URL/web address and paste it into the Bookmark section below to save it 
for future reference in this app.

To bookmarks your national health organization paste its URL here:

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[tw5] Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] file-backups plugin will be updated at: March 20th - Browser restart required!

[PMario]

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 7:36:18 AM UTC+1, Jon wrote:
>
> Thanks for your work on this, mario.
>

You are welcome!
It should be easier now, to make new updates and let users know.
have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mohammad

>
> (2) that sanitizer recipe-- did it come from WHO and do you have it in 
> your Covid wiki?  Local distrillery is using the WHO formula to get 
> hand-sanitizer out during the shortage -- 
> https://6abc.com/health/montco-distillery-offering-free-homemade-hand-sanitizer/6025300/
>

This is a Good informational point. Sanitizer is good for environments 
where bathrooms are shared and many people around. Or where you need a 
"portable" solution.

But plain soap and water thoroughly used can be very effective. The virus 
is of the type with a weak exterior. Saponification works well on 
destroying such viruses.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/03/why-soap-preferable-bleach-fight-against-coronavirus/

TT


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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[TiddlyTweeter]

Birthe C wrote:
>
> Right. But % death from Corona should also take into account that males 
> are having nearly double the risc. (Exacerbating existing only one X 
> condition.)
> If only one X
>

Right. Also other factors in China played a role since vast numbers of men 
smoke there and the virus is particularly viscous for breathing.

FYI, 70%+ of the recorded deaths of known infected in Italy are male. 
Reflecting possibly combination of advanced aged and the poorer General 
immunity in men.

The pattern is a bit different elsewhere, not quite so marked. These are 
guesses from what I read.

Best wishes
TT

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[Mohammad]

Many Thanks!
This is wonderful.

--Mohammad

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 1:25:11 PM UTC+4:30, A Gloom wrote:
>
> breakthru
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=list+of+health+belgium+agency
>
> \define nhagooglesearch(suffix,linktitle)
> https://www.google.com/search?q=list+of+health+$suffix$+agency"; 
> rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><$list 
> filter="$linktitle$">$linktitle$<$reveal type="match" default="" 
> text="$linktitle$">$suffix$
> \end
>
> !!__HEALTH AGENCY LINKS__:
>
> __INTERNATIONAL__: WHO > https://www.who.int/
>
> |YOUR NATION: |<$edit-text tiddler="$:/temp/nhasearch" placeholder="type 
> in your nation" tag="input" type="text"/> |<$set name="gsearch" 
> value={{$:/temp/nhasearch}}><> 
> {{$:/temp/nhasearch}} |
>
> EDIT: also works for region (province/state/county) or city names
>
> //Type in your nation's name in the text edit box and click on "Page link 
> for (search term)" which will open a Google search for your nation's 
> national health organization in a new browser tab//
> • add "+" or "-" between search terms as desired
> • __IMPORTANT__: to use quote marks around search terms, use ``%22`` 
> instead of ``"``
>
> Once you find the national health organization of your nation, you can 
> copy the URL/web address and paste it into the Bookmark section below to 
> save it for future reference in this app.
>
> To bookmarks your national health organization paste its URL here:
>

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[tw5] Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] file-backups plugin will be updated at: March 20th - Browser restart required!

[FrD]

Hi PMario,

Works fine for me (windows 10, firefox 74.0)

Thanks a lot !

Le samedi 21 mars 2020 11:50:57 UTC+1, PMario a écrit :
>
> On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 7:36:18 AM UTC+1, Jon wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for your work on this, mario.
>>
>
> You are welcome!
> It should be easier now, to make new updates and let users know.
> have fun!
> mario
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[A Gloom]

Mohammad

I will have a tiddler for you soon (with "bookmarking")-- but first sleep-- 
you helped inspire me not to remain on the sidelines

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[TiddlyTweeter]

Birthe C wrote:
>
> Lack of test kits, we are told.
>

Testing looks vital. The fact Italy rapidly switched from cohort tracing to 
testing mostly only on presentation of symptoms may prove a big mistake.
Sure there are finite tests available, but there is also very limited 
verification testing. Verification testing is statistically based sampling 
that IS likely managable. This done not by medical teams but 
epidemiologists using people trained only to collect samples.

The main issue now is we have little idea of latency at large.

South Korea, Taiwan & China took a different approach. Their differences 
also reflect more than medical matters but social factors too that include 
rights & surveillance. 
South Korea is particularly interesting because it was prepared and 
utilised the existing smart-phone, CCTV & other tech well.

http://theconversation.com/coronavirus-south-koreas-success-in-controlling-disease-is-due-to-its-acceptance-of-surveillance-134068

All news take with a pinch of salt. But some of it has some lessons.

Best wishes
TT

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[TiddlyTweeter]

For those on email I updated a previous post with a link to an article in 
the Guardian by the two epidemiologists that lead the "Vo experiment" in 
Italy on the High relevance of wide testing ... 
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/20/eradicated-coronavirus-mass-testing-covid-19-italy-vo

TT

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[TiddlyTweeter]

Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> ... If I were an american I would be fearful given their woeful medical 
>>> system.
>>>
>>
>>
> You ask "What's a death panel" ?
>
> A death panel is an (imaginary) group of experts who will decide if you 
> are too old to get a new pacemaker because *it would cost too much*.
>

My emphasis. Right. That has always been case in many parts of USA. I 
personally knew people who died early because they did not want to lumber 
their families with vast debt.

Right now the US situation with free Testing and utter ambiguity on 
Treatment Costs for "no or low" insurance does does not bode well.

TT

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[Birthe C]

T. T.

Well, what are the countries doing about the homeless? Every country have 
homeless people in smaller or bigger numbers. Living homeless is absolutely 
not healthy, they will be at high risc. The lock down closes a lot of the 
initiatives that are for them. Sleeping places, places to go to get some 
warmth, contact and a hot meal are closing due to lock down.
Some people care and work hard to find solutions, some people do not care. 
But really homeless people getting the infection should scare anyone as it 
will lead to high rise in infection for everyone. Covid19 does not ask for 
your address.

Birthe

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[tw5] Book references

[Jon]

Hi,

In a datatiddler called 'Footnotes', I have a series of book references e.g.

myref1: The Greek Myths, Robert Graves

To make reference to the book in another tiddler I use Mohammed's Refnotes 


<>


Then in a tiddler titled The Greek Myths, Robert Graves

{{{[!is[system]regexp:text[{{Footnotes##myref1}}]]}}}

shows the names of those tiddlers, as links, which contain a reference to 
the book
(I don't know if this is the most elegant way of doing this)

I was wondering, is it possible to extract the page number as well, to 
somehow create a list of the page numbers for myref1?

Regards
Jon

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[tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I can understand that fans of FF want to continue using FF. But if you're 
on a desktop, and having to use Beaker, Waterfox, or an old version of FF, 
why not just use TiddlyDesktop ?

On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 2:33:51 AM UTC-7, Norm Davis wrote:
>
>
> Firefox and Tiddly have long been great companions, but Firefox is going 
> sideways and the old Firefox Tiddly extension for saving in the new Firefox 
> 57 doesn't work.  Will there be anyone working on a rewrite or a new 
> extension?  Hope so!  Thanks for any helpful info.  
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

The point was, that there is this paranoia that under universal health, 
your destiny  would be in the hands of a faceless, nameless bureaucrat .

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 6:19:19 AM UTC-7, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>
>> TonyM wrote:

 ... If I were an american I would be fearful given their woeful medical 
 system.

>>>
>>>
>> You ask "What's a death panel" ?
>>
>> A death panel is an (imaginary) group of experts who will decide if you 
>> are too old to get a new pacemaker because *it would cost too much*.
>>
>
> My emphasis. Right. That has always been case in many parts of USA. I 
> personally knew people who died early because they did not want to lumber 
> their families with vast debt.
>
> Right now the US situation with free Testing and utter ambiguity on 
> Treatment Costs for "no or low" insurance does not bode well.
>
> TT
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[TiddlyTweeter]

Mark S. wrote:
>
> The point was, that there is this paranoia that under universal health, 
> your destiny  would be in the hands of a faceless, nameless bureaucrat .
>

Universal healthcare? I'm maybe missing your point?

In Italy it is the case that many people are dying because allocation by 
doctors of care has been forced partial.
They ARE making choices on guesstimates on survival rate.

In USA the "insurance factor" is a serious compounding issue.

TT

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[Birthe C]

I would fear private hospitals profit optimizing

Birthe

lørdag den 21. marts 2020 kl. 15.57.39 UTC+1 skrev TiddlyTweeter:
>
> Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> The point was, that there is this paranoia that under universal health, 
>> your destiny  would be in the hands of a faceless, nameless bureaucrat .
>>
>
> Universal healthcare? I'm maybe missing your point?
>
> In Italy it is the case that many people are dying because allocation by 
> doctors of care has been forced partial.
> They ARE making choices on guesstimates on survival rate.
>
> In USA the "insurance factor" is a serious compounding issue.
>
> TT
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mohammad

This thread is now paginating on Web GG. Could you start a new thread?

Best wishes
TT

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[tw5] Offer of multi-user TiddlyWiki 5 hosting for educators

[Jeremy Ruston]

There's a lot more I hope to discuss about our response as a community to the 
Coronavirus, but today I wanted to start with one simple thing that I can do 
right now that I hope might make a small impact.

The offer is simple: to give educators who already use TiddlyWiki 5 in a 
classroom setting the infrastructure they need to be able to use it with remote 
students.

It's based on Xememex, a cloud-based multi-user implementation of TiddlyWiki 
that I initially built to host the Anna Freud Manuals project (now at 
https://manuals.annafreud.org/) when it had to migrate from TiddlySpace. 
Xememex uses an extended form of the bag/recipe model from TiddlySpace to give 
flexible ways to combine content into wikis. It is now fairly mature with 
several hundred users and several hundred wikis, with intertwingled content 
between them.

Elise Springer of Wesleyan University, Connecticut kindly agreed to trial the 
system with her Ethics class. We exported the existing course material from 
TiddlySpot and setup two new spaces:
https://xememex.com/ethicsatwes is the space used by the 34 students to review 
the course material and attach their comments. They have their own login 
credentials and once logged in can leave comments using the TW comment plugin
https://xememex.com/ethicsatwes-teacher is the teacher site that only Elise can 
edit. It contains the course material, which is also automatically transcluded 
into the student space
Hopefully Elise will be able to jump in and explain more about how the space 
will be used during teaching, but I believe it's for a combination of 
synchronous presentations via Zoom and asynchronous coursework by the students 
working alone.

If we can keep to a small number of variations of this setup then I see no 
reason why we can't support hundreds of educators. I may have to appeal for 
help with funding this initiative if it's a wild success but I don't intend to 
worry about that for the moment.

I'm posting now to gauge interest, so please do reply here (or via email), and 
give an outline of your needs. The next step is that I will post a spreadsheet 
with the information I'll require to set things up. In the meantime, please 
feel free to ask any questions.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[TiddlyTweeter]

Birthe C wrote:
>
> I would fear private hospitals profit optimizing
>

Right.

In Europe I think its less of an issue.

For example, Spain nationalized all private healthcare: 
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-spain-nationalises-private-hospitals-emergency-covid-19-lockdown-2020-3?IR=T

TT

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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[Vayira]

Because TiddlyDesktop is not a browser and the having TW in a browser tab
is so useful.

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 10:36, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I can understand that fans of FF want to continue using FF. But if you're
> on a desktop, and having to use Beaker, Waterfox, or an old version of FF,
> why not just use TiddlyDesktop ?
>
> On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 2:33:51 AM UTC-7, Norm Davis wrote:
>>
>>
>> Firefox and Tiddly have long been great companions, but Firefox is going
>> sideways and the old Firefox Tiddly extension for saving in the new Firefox
>> 57 doesn't work.  Will there be anyone working on a rewrite or a new
>> extension?  Hope so!  Thanks for any helpful info.
>>
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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[TiddlyTweeter]

Birthe C wrote:
>
> Well, what are the countries doing about the homeless?
>

Right. I can't you any clear answer. The most vulnerable will be at much 
risk.

I can't find evidence in Italy of specific support for homeless or 
refugees. That is most likely my lack of search skill.

In UK there is this ... 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/21/uk-hotels-homeless-shelters-coronavirus

TT 

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[Birthe C]

In Denmark
The places to stay and get some warmth, socializing and getting a hot meal 
is closing. But the volunteers stays and prepare food and distribute.
As the places to sleep are closing down, some gym halls are opening. (Not 
really a good idea with many people together).

Best project I think is only for the part of the homeless selling the 
homeless paper. A printed paper about the homeless situation, all aspects. 
Homeless people can ask to be a seller of the paper. They have to sign some 
agreement of behaviour, not being under the influence while selling and 
that kind of things. They will get some clothes to wear two times a year, 
that will make them recognisable and given a sign to wear for legitimation.
With the legitimation they can buy some papers and resell at a profit. Lots 
of people pay for the paper, but ask not to receive any. The purpose being 
for the homeless to sell the paper to somebody else.
Begging is not allowed in Denmark.
Now some hostels all over Denmark has made an agreement, that the homeless 
paper sellers can be housed there for free for now. (Free for the homeless 
that is, the homeless paper is paying, the hostels lowering their prices.

A lot of other things going on ass well. For now the most important thing 
is to give them at chance to get off the streets and have a place to stay.


Birthe

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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 9:19:33 AM UTC-7, vayira wrote:
>
> Because TiddlyDesktop is not a browser and the having TW in a browser tab 
> is so useful. 
>
>
>
How so? Sure, it it's in the same browser that you do all your regular 
browsing in. But if you need a special browser, then why not use 
TiddlyDesktop? 

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[tw5] Re: Offer of multi-user TiddlyWiki 5 hosting for educators

[HansWobbe]

Kudos, Jeremy!

This is a good time to try an initiative like this.  I have a number of 
associates who are feeling quite over-whelmed by the sudden need to 
"home-school".  I will start collecting their impressions about how their 
youngsters are interacting with their now remote teachers.  Perhaps that 
will yield some useCases that TiddlyWiki is particularly well suited to 
address.

Cheers, Hans

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[tw5] cut a String

[Gerald Weis]

Hi friends,

my Problem is the follow. i create an Wiki for my Software-DVDs.


at to keep track i have into the titles of the tiddlers Prefixes. the i 
have an lot groups of software

Now i want a caption on the tableheader without the prefixes.

Example

*Tiddlertitle* : Software: Abelesoft Audio Creator

*tableheader:* Abelesoft Audio Creator

i can not accept that i must wrote twice the name of the software

i'd love to have an general macro where i can say wich prefix shoud be 
removed.

Any ideas


thanks

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[tw5] Re: Offer of multi-user TiddlyWiki 5 hosting for educators

[Rahul Kashyap]

Dear Jeremy,

This is really fantastic. I've been using TW for my content management of 
research but, I have always felt the need to have such a solution so that I 
can share the content with my collaborators and students with the 
philosophy of TW in mind. 
I support this. 

Best,
-Rahul Kashyap
Postdoctoral Fellow,
Pennsylvania State University

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 12:10:47 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> There's a lot more I hope to discuss about our response as a community to 
> the Coronavirus, but today I wanted to start with one simple thing that I 
> can do right now that I hope might make a small impact.
>
>
> The offer is simple: to give educators who already use TiddlyWiki 5 in a 
> classroom setting the infrastructure they need to be able to use it with 
> remote students.
>
>
> It's based on Xememex, a cloud-based multi-user implementation of 
> TiddlyWiki that I initially built to host the Anna Freud Manuals project 
> (now at https://manuals.annafreud.org/) when it had to migrate from 
> TiddlySpace. Xememex uses an extended form of the bag/recipe model from 
> TiddlySpace to give flexible ways to combine content into wikis. It is now 
> fairly mature with several hundred users and several hundred wikis, with 
> intertwingled content between them.
>
>
> Elise Springer of Wesleyan University, Connecticut kindly agreed to trial 
> the system with her Ethics class. We exported the existing course material 
> from TiddlySpot and setup two new spaces:
>
>- https://xememex.com/ethicsatwes is the space used by the 34 students 
>to review the course material and attach their comments. They have their 
>own login credentials and once logged in can leave comments using the TW 
>comment plugin
>- https://xememex.com/ethicsatwes-teacher is the teacher site that 
>only Elise can edit. It contains the course material, which is also 
>automatically transcluded into the student space
>
> Hopefully Elise will be able to jump in and explain more about how the 
> space will be used during teaching, but I believe it's for a combination of 
> synchronous presentations via Zoom and asynchronous coursework by the 
> students working alone.
>
>
> If we can keep to a small number of variations of this setup then I see no 
> reason why we can't support hundreds of educators. I may have to appeal for 
> help with funding this initiative if it's a wild success but I don't intend 
> to worry about that for the moment.
>
>
> I'm posting now to gauge interest, so please do reply here (or via email), 
> and give an outline of your needs. The next step is that I will post a 
> spreadsheet with the information I'll require to set things up. In the 
> meantime, please feel free to ask any questions.
>
>
> Best wishes
>
>
> Jeremy
>

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[tw5] linkifyplugin update?

[Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/]

Hi all

On Twitter @Leviotate told me that the linkifyplugin as linked to from the 
toolmap does not work with the latest version of TiddlyWiki. I wanted to 
report that here in case someone is able to update it. Let me know if you 
do, and I will let him or her know.

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[tw5] Linkify plugin issue

[Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/]

My previous attempt to send this post failed, not sure what happened.

On Twitter, @Levotiate let me know that the linkify plugin is not working 
with recent versions of TiddlyWiki. Is there or will there be an update for 
this? Please let me know, and I will let this person know.

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[tw5] Re: cut a String

[Mat]

Sure

{{{ [removeprefix[Software: ]] }}}

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: cut a String

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

This is a variation of the articles problem (A/An/The in English) discussed 
here https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/ko0TwEryKiM/OeHvf8g3BwAJ

The question is, do you have a known set of title prefixes (e.g. Software: 
). Or some way to tell what part of the title is a prefix. (Like a colon).

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 11:00:51 AM UTC-7, Gerald Weis wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
>
> my Problem is the follow. i create an Wiki for my Software-DVDs.
>
>
> at to keep track i have into the titles of the tiddlers Prefixes. the i 
> have an lot groups of software
>
> Now i want a caption on the tableheader without the prefixes.
>
> Example
>
> *Tiddlertitle* : Software: Abelesoft Audio Creator
>
> *tableheader:* Abelesoft Audio Creator
>
> i can not accept that i must wrote twice the name of the software
>
> i'd love to have an general macro where i can say wich prefix shoud be 
> removed.
>
> Any ideas
>
>
> thanks
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Editor toolbar button that toggles a tag?

[Mohammad]

Based on Jeremy instruction, a sample Tiddlywiki with RTL button and sample 
Persian tiddlers is available here:
http://kookma.rtl.tiddlyspot.com/

--Mohammad

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 3:39:47 PM UTC+3:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Ittay
>
> The optimal thing for me would be to have a toolbar button (to toggle the 
> tag, or something else)
>
>
> Create a tiddler with the following fields:
>
> title: $:/core/ui/EditorToolbar/rtl
> tags: $:/tags/EditorToolbar
> icon: $:/core/images/right-arrow
> caption: RTL
> description: Toggle Right To Left
> condition: [!has[type]] 
> [type[text/vnd.tiddlywiki]]
>
> And the following text:
>
> <$list filter="[tag[rtl]]" variable="ignore" 
> emptyMessage="""
> <$action-listops $tiddler=<> $tags="+rtl"/>
> """>
> <$action-listops $tiddler=<> $tags="-rtl"/>
> 
>
> And wouldn't the styling you suggested change the text editor to always be 
> RTL? I want it to be RTL only when a tiddler is (tagged as) RTL. 
>
>
> The selector I’ve used includes .tc-tagged-rtl so that it only applies to 
> tiddlers with the tag “rtl”.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ittay 
>
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[tw5] Re: Offer of multi-user TiddlyWiki 5 hosting for educators

[Mohammad]

Hi Jeremy,
 This is interesting solution and I like to give a try and give feedback on 
how we can improve it.

--Mohammad


On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 8:40:47 PM UTC+4:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> There's a lot more I hope to discuss about our response as a community to 
> the Coronavirus, but today I wanted to start with one simple thing that I 
> can do right now that I hope might make a small impact.
>
>
> The offer is simple: to give educators who already use TiddlyWiki 5 in a 
> classroom setting the infrastructure they need to be able to use it with 
> remote students.
>
>
> It's based on Xememex, a cloud-based multi-user implementation of 
> TiddlyWiki that I initially built to host the Anna Freud Manuals project 
> (now at https://manuals.annafreud.org/) when it had to migrate from 
> TiddlySpace. Xememex uses an extended form of the bag/recipe model from 
> TiddlySpace to give flexible ways to combine content into wikis. It is now 
> fairly mature with several hundred users and several hundred wikis, with 
> intertwingled content between them.
>
>
> Elise Springer of Wesleyan University, Connecticut kindly agreed to trial 
> the system with her Ethics class. We exported the existing course material 
> from TiddlySpot and setup two new spaces:
>
>- https://xememex.com/ethicsatwes is the space used by the 34 students 
>to review the course material and attach their comments. They have their 
>own login credentials and once logged in can leave comments using the TW 
>comment plugin
>- https://xememex.com/ethicsatwes-teacher is the teacher site that 
>only Elise can edit. It contains the course material, which is also 
>automatically transcluded into the student space
>
> Hopefully Elise will be able to jump in and explain more about how the 
> space will be used during teaching, but I believe it's for a combination of 
> synchronous presentations via Zoom and asynchronous coursework by the 
> students working alone.
>
>
> If we can keep to a small number of variations of this setup then I see no 
> reason why we can't support hundreds of educators. I may have to appeal for 
> help with funding this initiative if it's a wild success but I don't intend 
> to worry about that for the moment.
>
>
> I'm posting now to gauge interest, so please do reply here (or via email), 
> and give an outline of your needs. The next step is that I will post a 
> spreadsheet with the information I'll require to set things up. In the 
> meantime, please feel free to ask any questions.
>
>
> Best wishes
>
>
> Jeremy
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[Mohammad]

Hi Josiah,
 Sure I will start a new one. 

--Mohammad

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 7:57:35 PM UTC+4:30, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao Mohammad
>
> This thread is now paginating on Web GG. Could you start a new thread?
>
> Best wishes
> TT
>

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[tw5] Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus: March 2020 [Continued...]

[Mohammad]

This thread continues the discussion of Tiddlywiki and 
Coronavirus: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/IGrE-fslX84/PB-8xcFmAgAJ

This is to share information and see how we can use Tiddlywiki in this 
situation as a tool to help others.
The original thread got around 800 views and more than 104 posts.

--Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus: March 2020 [Continued...]

[Mohammad]

Google has started a COVID-19 alert.
If you have an Android phone, the Google Now app (in my phone flip the home 
screen to the right) shows the alert and then on tapping the alert you can 
get some useful information.
Also if make a search in Google in any browser, you will see the alert with 
Help and Information from WHO.

--Mohammad

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[tw5] Bilingual pages swapper - new simple plugin

[oleghbond]

Plugin is:

   - titled BOA - Bilingual pages swapper,
   - placed locally at $:/plugins/boa/langswap 
   ,
   - placed globally at https://protw.github.io/templ,
   - dependent on other plugins *Shiraz* and *Utility*.

The plugin sets an additional button at the top right of a tiddler intended 
for switching between identical pages in *Ukrainian* and *English*. The 
name of the translated matching tiddler is written in the tiddler field swap
.


Definitely, the plugin can be easily rewritten for any other pair of 
languages!


For example, we have two matching tiddlers titled Стаття and Article, 
respectively in Ukrainian and English. In order to ensure correct 
transition from tiddler Стаття in its field swap the value *Article* must 
be specified, and in tiddler Article in the same field swap – the value 
*Стаття*, respectively. Also, each of the two tiddlers must be tagged with 
their language,  Ukr or  Eng, respectively.


Additionally, the plugin creates two tag tiddlers Ukr 
 and Eng 
, each of which stores an ordered 
list of all the tiddlers tagged with the *Ukr*  or *Eng*, respectively. 
Moreover, the order of the tiddlers in these lists can be rearranged using 
*drag-and-drop* by pre-clicking on the tag icon *Ukr* or *Eng*. And that's 
not all - there are a couple of navigation buttons previous | next in the 
bottom of each tiddler from the list. The functionality specified here is 
provided with a simple-navigation macros, which is part of the plugin 
$:/plugins/kookma/utility 
.


Also, the plugin creates two plane content tables Зміст and Content based 
on the Ukr  and Eng 
 tags, respectively. These two 
tables of content are placed in the sidebar under Content-Зміст tab.

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus: March 2020 [Continued...]

[TiddlyTweeter]

Birthe 

> Begging is not allowed in Denmark.
> Now some hostels all over Denmark has made an agreement, that the homeless 
> paper sellers can be housed there for free for now. (Free for the homeless 
> that is, the homeless paper is paying, the hostels lowering their prices.
> A lot of other things going on as well. For now the most important thing 
> is to give them at chance to get off the streets and have a place to stay.


Right. In Northern Italy here in Gorizia most beggars (allowed) are 
refugees from Africa. We have many. My friendly beggar from Nigeria left 
the supermarket entrance some days ago saying "I can't risk it." He already 
has state provision. Italy is good in that way. Very few people are truly 
homeless.

TT

 

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Re: [tw5] Editor toolbar button that toggles a tag?

[Julio Peña]

Wow Mohammad,

Thanks for sharing...I always wanted to do something 
like this but never got around to figuring it out.
Good stuff!

Best regards,
Julio

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 2:57:33 PM UTC-4, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Based on Jeremy instruction, a sample Tiddlywiki with RTL button and 
> sample Persian tiddlers is available here:
> http://kookma.rtl.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> --Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[Mat]

Birthe C wrote:
>
> I would fear private hospitals profit optimizing
>

The reasonable answer to this potential problem is for the state to set the 
rules for what any private "society critical" institution must provide, be 
it hospitals, banks, schools or whatever. The problem is not privatization, 
the problem is when these actors don't fulfill the task they are supposed 
to do. And this goes for state run institutions as well where the problems 
are of a different kind such as wasting tax money, ineffectiveness, 
nepotism etc.

<:-)

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Re: [tw5] iOS Users, Rejoice! Quine 2 is here

[brianburnham]

Diego,

Not sure if this helps for your purposes, but I do know you can run/save 
tiddlywiki on iOS using phpwin (app) and store.php (PHP self hosting option on 
tiddlywiki.com). 

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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[TonyM]

Mark

I think people may be clining onto extensions within Firefox no longer 
available since around v57, so tiddlydesktop does not have these extensions, 
however at least some of the former extensions have being re released in 
firefox.

I sympathise with ff and its extensions but I no longer resort to pre v 57. 
This is my current usage.

Everyday I use ff timimi, tiddlydesktop, tiddlyserver and bobexe according to 
the particular need. Typically I use chrome to access single function wikis at 
a network address including SharePoint hosted.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[TiddlyTweeter]

Mat, that post is confusing from vagueness. What are they supposed to do?

TT, x

On Saturday, 21 March 2020 21:34:17 UTC+1, Mat wrote:
>
> Birthe C wrote:
>>
>> I would fear private hospitals profit optimizing
>>
>
> The reasonable answer to this potential problem is for the state to set 
> the rules for what any private "society critical" institution must provide, 
> be it hospitals, banks, schools or whatever. The problem is not 
> privatization, the problem is when these actors don't fulfill the task they 
> are supposed to do. And this goes for state run institutions as well where 
> the problems are of a different kind such as wasting tax money, 
> ineffectiveness, nepotism etc.
>
> <:-)
>

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Re: [tw5] iOS Users, Rejoice! Quine 2 is here

[Arlen Beiler]

I think that still uses single-file wikis, in which case you're still
better off using Quine 2. Good to know about that option though, for other
related purposes!

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 4:56 PM brianburnham  wrote:

> Diego,
>
> Not sure if this helps for your purposes, but I do know you can run/save
> tiddlywiki on iOS using phpwin (app) and store.php (PHP self hosting option
> on tiddlywiki.com).
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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[Mat]

TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Mat, that post is confusing from vagueness. What are they supposed to do?
>

What is it you're afraid they won't do?

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: cut a String

[TonyM]

Folks

As with the prefix sort issue its a simple matter to make a sort field in every 
tiddler and use that instead.

However other than prefixes in natural language including more in a title is 
building a compound key. This always results in complications like this. I 
would avoid prefixes in tiddler except as a namespace like $:/

rregards
Tony populate it with a list and actions inside a button.





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[tw5] Re: cut a String

[Mat]

I just posted this gh request 
. Like it if you 
agree or explain why it is a bad idea.

<:-)

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[tw5] Tiddler Manager key version 0

[A Gloom]

An initial attempt to provide a key for the core Tiddler Manager-- import 
both the attached tiddlers-- one a modified Tiddler Manager with normal 
selections disable which requires the second tiddler so it display an 
example tidddler with annotations on the functions of the Tiddler manager 
display.

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An example Tiddler.tid
Description: Binary data


TiddlerManager key.tid
Description: Binary data

[tw5] Offer of multi-user TiddlyWiki 5 hosting for educators

[HansBKK]

Wow would jump on this!

ESL teacher, been a TW user many years personally, but only limited use in my 
classes.

Just a dozen or so logins would be a great start.

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[tw5] Re: Offer of multi-user TiddlyWiki 5 hosting for educators

[TonyM]

Jeremy,

Great initiative, In future I would like to access such a platform, 
initially to set up training in tiddlywiki to build my local community, 
then later to support other coaching, but for now I stand back, so it can 
be used where the current circumstances demand. If a solution like this is 
not open sourced, I imagine a cost effective online solution like this 
would be in high demand.

Great work
Tony

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 3:10:47 AM UTC+11, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> There's a lot more I hope to discuss about our response as a community to 
> the Coronavirus, but today I wanted to start with one simple thing that I 
> can do right now that I hope might make a small impact.
>
>
> The offer is simple: to give educators who already use TiddlyWiki 5 in a 
> classroom setting the infrastructure they need to be able to use it with 
> remote students.
>
>
> It's based on Xememex, a cloud-based multi-user implementation of 
> TiddlyWiki that I initially built to host the Anna Freud Manuals project 
> (now at https://manuals.annafreud.org/) when it had to migrate from 
> TiddlySpace. Xememex uses an extended form of the bag/recipe model from 
> TiddlySpace to give flexible ways to combine content into wikis. It is now 
> fairly mature with several hundred users and several hundred wikis, with 
> intertwingled content between them.
>
>
> Elise Springer of Wesleyan University, Connecticut kindly agreed to trial 
> the system with her Ethics class. We exported the existing course material 
> from TiddlySpot and setup two new spaces:
>
>- https://xememex.com/ethicsatwes is the space used by the 34 students 
>to review the course material and attach their comments. They have their 
>own login credentials and once logged in can leave comments using the TW 
>comment plugin
>- https://xememex.com/ethicsatwes-teacher is the teacher site that 
>only Elise can edit. It contains the course material, which is also 
>automatically transcluded into the student space
>
> Hopefully Elise will be able to jump in and explain more about how the 
> space will be used during teaching, but I believe it's for a combination of 
> synchronous presentations via Zoom and asynchronous coursework by the 
> students working alone.
>
>
> If we can keep to a small number of variations of this setup then I see no 
> reason why we can't support hundreds of educators. I may have to appeal for 
> help with funding this initiative if it's a wild success but I don't intend 
> to worry about that for the moment.
>
>
> I'm posting now to gauge interest, so please do reply here (or via email), 
> and give an outline of your needs. The next step is that I will post a 
> spreadsheet with the information I'll require to set things up. In the 
> meantime, please feel free to ask any questions.
>
>
> Best wishes
>
>
> Jeremy
>

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[tw5] Re: cut a String

[TonyM]

Folks,

I back my last post up with an example you can test on TiddlyWiki.com

;Exceptions before
<$list filter="[!is[system]prefix[The ]] [!is[system]prefix[A ]] 
[!is[system]prefix[An ]] +[sort[]]">




<$button>
<$list filter="[!is[system]!prefix[The ]] [!is[system]!prefix[A ]] 
[!is[system]!prefix[An ]]">
<$action-setfield $field="sort-key" $value=<> />

<$list filter="[!is[system]prefix[The ]]">
<$action-setfield $field="sort-key" $value={{{ 
[removeprefix[The ]] }}} />

<$list filter="[!is[system]prefix[A ]]">
<$action-setfield $field="sort-key" $value={{{ 
[removeprefix[A ]] }}} />

<$list filter="[!is[system]prefix[An ]]">
<$action-setfield $field="sort-key" $value={{{ 
[removeprefix[An ]] }}} />

Set ALL sort Keys




;Exceptions after
<$list filter="[!is[system]prefix[The ]] [!is[system]prefix[A ]] 
[!is[system]prefix[An ]] +[sort[sort-key]]">



Notes

   - The above is a first draft, and it updates every tiddler not just 
   those with unwanted prefixes
   - The code could be a list that feeds the prefixes into it and be much 
   more compact.
   - There may be a way to sort based on title except for those with a 
   sort-key, but not sure yet

Regards
Tony

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 10:34:46 AM UTC+11, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks
>
> As with the prefix sort issue its a simple matter to make a sort field in 
> every tiddler and use that instead.
>
> However other than prefixes in natural language including more in a title 
> is building a compound key. This always results in complications like this. 
> I would avoid prefixes in tiddler except as a namespace like $:/
>
> rregards
> Tony populate it with a list and actions inside a button.
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[Alex S. Garcia]

I just downloaded TiddlyDesktop and gave it a shot. It's interesting. Could 
help as a temporary workaround, though I can't see myself using this 
indefinitely. It's nowhere near as convenient as editing it in my browser. I 
might have to drop using TW entirely, though not sure yet what I'd replace it 
with :(

BTW, I'm noticing that some stuff doesn't work in TiddlyDesktop. Like clicking 
on the "Settings", "Help" and "Backstage" buttons at the top. I'm using 
v0.0.13 for linux.



Alex.


On samedi 21 mars 2020 15:36:34 CET 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki wrote:
> I can understand that fans of FF want to continue using FF. But if you're
> on a desktop, and having to use Beaker, Waterfox, or an old version of FF,
> why not just use TiddlyDesktop ?
> 
> On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 2:33:51 AM UTC-7, Norm Davis wrote:
> > Firefox and Tiddly have long been great companions, but Firefox is going
> > sideways and the old Firefox Tiddly extension for saving in the new
> > Firefox
> > 57 doesn't work.  Will there be anyone working on a rewrite or a new
> > extension?  Hope so!  Thanks for any helpful info.


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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[Birthe C]

@Mat

The state sets the rules now. That is so detailed and bureaucratic, that 
more and more healthcare money are going towards that. The private will 
have to do exactly what the public is doing now. But going private the 
investors, the boards, the leaders will also have nice and high salaries.

Why did a lot of private hospitals go into bankruptcy in the US?

Going private will not solve the problem of educating enough doctors and 
nurses. Young people need to want that eduction to go for it.

What do you think the people buying into private healthcare insurance will 
be able to get from that money, covid18 related?


Birthe


lørdag den 21. marts 2020 kl. 21.34.17 UTC+1 skrev Mat:
>
> Birthe C wrote:
>>
>> I would fear private hospitals profit optimizing
>>
>
> The reasonable answer to this potential problem is for the state to set 
> the rules for what any private "society critical" institution must provide, 
> be it hospitals, banks, schools or whatever. The problem is not 
> privatization, the problem is when these actors don't fulfill the task they 
> are supposed to do. And this goes for state run institutions as well where 
> the problems are of a different kind such as wasting tax money, 
> ineffectiveness, nepotism etc.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: cut a String

[TonyM]

Wrap the content within the button with
<$list filter="[!is[system]!has[sort-key]]">


so that on subsequent clicks only tiddlers without a sort-key will be 
updated/touched.

I believe there would also be a way to generate a list of titles without 
stop words and their matching tiddler title in a data tiddler (or JSON to 
handle other characters in the title) and use this as the input to an 
ordered list. This may leave the option to list the item twice, once 
without the stop words, once with it.

Regards
tony


On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 12:32:54 PM UTC+11, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I back my last post up with an example you can test on TiddlyWiki.com
>
> ;Exceptions before
> <$list filter="[!is[system]prefix[The ]] [!is[system]prefix[A ]] 
> [!is[system]prefix[An ]] +[sort[]]">
>
> 
>
>
> <$button>
> <$list filter="[!is[system]!prefix[The ]] [!is[system]!prefix[A ]] 
> [!is[system]!prefix[An ]]">
> <$action-setfield $field="sort-key" $value=<> />
> 
> <$list filter="[!is[system]prefix[The ]]">
> <$action-setfield $field="sort-key" $value={{{ 
> [removeprefix[The ]] }}} />
> 
> <$list filter="[!is[system]prefix[A ]]">
> <$action-setfield $field="sort-key" $value={{{ 
> [removeprefix[A ]] }}} />
> 
> <$list filter="[!is[system]prefix[An ]]">
> <$action-setfield $field="sort-key" $value={{{ 
> [removeprefix[An ]] }}} />
> 
> Set ALL sort Keys
> 
>
>
>
> ;Exceptions after
> <$list filter="[!is[system]prefix[The ]] [!is[system]prefix[A ]] 
> [!is[system]prefix[An ]] +[sort[sort-key]]">
>
> 
>
> Notes
>
>- The above is a first draft, and it updates every tiddler not just 
>those with unwanted prefixes
>- The code could be a list that feeds the prefixes into it and be much 
>more compact.
>- There may be a way to sort based on title except for those with a 
>sort-key, but not sure yet
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 10:34:46 AM UTC+11, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Folks
>>
>> As with the prefix sort issue its a simple matter to make a sort field in 
>> every tiddler and use that instead.
>>
>> However other than prefixes in natural language including more in a title 
>> is building a compound key. This always results in complications like this. 
>> I would avoid prefixes in tiddler except as a namespace like $:/
>>
>> rregards
>> Tony populate it with a list and actions inside a button.
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: More button foolery (borders & aufio)

[A Gloom]

Birthe

Sorry about the delayed response-- was working on some tiddlers for 
Mohammad's wiki-- drawing on the external content & search tricks from the 
Rererences Collective
 

> Lots of good ideas for the music ToC, thank you. 
> Now I really will have to play with that also. Always something to do with 
> a tiddlywiki. You seem to always have so many ideas.
>

I shall make up some example tiddlers-- tiddlywiki com has an audio file in 
it so I can make example tiddlers for people to import into the official 
documentation site to see the ideas in action 
 

> I wish people being bored now in isolation would start using tiddlywiki 
> and have some fun.
>

Understood 

 

> My close friend had a black cat very much like yours. It was called Misser 
> (Another name for cat). When we went for a walk it followed us like a dog, 
> just without a leach. It was playful till the last day, 18 years old.
>

Misser.. cool-- another name I can use with the guys-- I often call them 
Gato.
Smudge was like that, could be walked without a leash-- as long as no birds 
were around... 
Ash, his brother you may appreciate the symbolism-- he was a wedding gift-- 
one of Freja's own-- a big black tailless cat 


We got friends the cat and I just about the time I started using Tiddlywiki 
> (classic). I swear that cat tried to take part in it, write in it. But 
> after too many hours it just laid down on the keyboard ;-)
>

:)
TW isn't Mayhem proof I have discovered >> <<  Mayhem being our current 
KAOS operative-- Arkham, aka Mr Mayhem, aka Crash, KAOS demolitions 
specialist-- I stepped away from the computer the other with a tiddler in 
edit mode-- came back to find Mayhem standing on the keyboard with his nose 
up against the monitor watching the text scrolling-- he froze up Firefox 
and crashed everything...

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Re: [tw5] Offer of multi-user TiddlyWiki 5 hosting for educators

[Marc Ferguson]

I am so excited about this. I am a retired teacher developing a consortium of 
schools and institutions that are really wanting to involving communities in 
education bay involving everyone in the development of the experience not just 
coming and being entertained. 

Currently we have a space simulator that participants can board and tour our 
solar system for up to 24 hours. There are new tasks for the participants every 
15 minutes. 

All of those activities need to documented  and accessed over and over again 
during the simulation but the fun is extended by students and interested adults 
creating all of these activities for the simulations.

So far all of these activities are written and delivered in all sorts of ways.  
I think a multi user tiddlywiki would be exactly the documentation system and 
also provide a way for the participants to record their performance scores and 
journal their mission. 

I would love to be part of developing this idea although I am not a great 
programmer. 

Let me know if you need more interim me. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 21, 2020, at 10:10 AM, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
> 
> 
> There's a lot more I hope to discuss about our response as a community to the 
> Coronavirus, but today I wanted to start with one simple thing that I can do 
> right now that I hope might make a small impact.
> 
> The offer is simple: to give educators who already use TiddlyWiki 5 in a 
> classroom setting the infrastructure they need to be able to use it with 
> remote students.
> 
> It's based on Xememex, a cloud-based multi-user implementation of TiddlyWiki 
> that I initially built to host the Anna Freud Manuals project (now at 
> https://manuals.annafreud.org/) when it had to migrate from TiddlySpace. 
> Xememex uses an extended form of the bag/recipe model from TiddlySpace to 
> give flexible ways to combine content into wikis. It is now fairly mature 
> with several hundred users and several hundred wikis, with intertwingled 
> content between them.
> 
> Elise Springer of Wesleyan University, Connecticut kindly agreed to trial the 
> system with her Ethics class. We exported the existing course material from 
> TiddlySpot and setup two new spaces:
> https://xememex.com/ethicsatwes is the space used by the 34 students to 
> review the course material and attach their comments. They have their own 
> login credentials and once logged in can leave comments using the TW comment 
> plugin
> https://xememex.com/ethicsatwes-teacher is the teacher site that only Elise 
> can edit. It contains the course material, which is also automatically 
> transcluded into the student space
> Hopefully Elise will be able to jump in and explain more about how the space 
> will be used during teaching, but I believe it's for a combination of 
> synchronous presentations via Zoom and asynchronous coursework by the 
> students working alone.
> 
> If we can keep to a small number of variations of this setup then I see no 
> reason why we can't support hundreds of educators. I may have to appeal for 
> help with funding this initiative if it's a wild success but I don't intend 
> to worry about that for the moment.
> 
> I'm posting now to gauge interest, so please do reply here (or via email), 
> and give an outline of your needs. The next step is that I will post a 
> spreadsheet with the information I'll require to set things up. In the 
> meantime, please feel free to ask any questions.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[TonyM]

Alex,

Why would you say "I might have to drop using TW entirely"?

*The title and leading posts are out of date and no longer relevant. Almost 
3 years OLD*

I like TiddlyDesktop because I can launch programs and windows explorer 
etc.. in it, I am sure you may be able to launch shell scripts and more. It 
has its place but if you are browser junkie what problem do you have?

Regards
Tony

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 12:49:44 PM UTC+11, Alex S. Garcia wrote:
>
> I just downloaded TiddlyDesktop and gave it a shot. It's interesting. 
> Could 
> help as a temporary workaround, though I can't see myself using this 
> indefinitely. It's nowhere near as convenient as editing it in my browser. 
> I 
> might have to drop using TW entirely, though not sure yet what I'd replace 
> it 
> with :( 
>
> BTW, I'm noticing that some stuff doesn't work in TiddlyDesktop. Like 
> clicking 
> on the "Settings", "Help" and "Backstage" buttons at the top. I'm using 
> v0.0.13 for linux. 
>
>
>
> Alex. 
>
>
> On samedi 21 mars 2020 15:36:34 CET 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki wrote: 
> > I can understand that fans of FF want to continue using FF. But if 
> you're 
> > on a desktop, and having to use Beaker, Waterfox, or an old version of 
> FF, 
> > why not just use TiddlyDesktop ? 
> > 
> > On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 2:33:51 AM UTC-7, Norm Davis wrote: 
> > > Firefox and Tiddly have long been great companions, but Firefox is 
> going 
> > > sideways and the old Firefox Tiddly extension for saving in the new 
> > > Firefox 
> > > 57 doesn't work.  Will there be anyone working on a rewrite or a new 
> > > extension?  Hope so!  Thanks for any helpful info. 
>
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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus: March 2020 [Continued...]

[Birthe C]

TT.
I do not think there are many in Denmark either. But the official statistic 
might not be totally correct. 
Definition being, that just because you do not have a home, you are not 
homeless (anticipating that people loosing their homes are couch surfing 
with family and friends) could hide quite a number.
Not many will have the option of couch surfing with the isolation going on.
The need to have an address to get financial help and be able to document 
how long you have stayed in the country makes it difficult. Some gets full 
amount, more getting much less, and yet others absolutely nothing. If you 
leave your local area, you can loose the benefit.


Birthe

lørdag den 21. marts 2020 kl. 20.56.06 UTC+1 skrev TiddlyTweeter:
>
> Birthe 
>
>> Begging is not allowed in Denmark.
>> Now some hostels all over Denmark has made an agreement, that the 
>> homeless paper sellers can be housed there for free for now. (Free for the 
>> homeless that is, the homeless paper is paying, the hostels lowering their 
>> prices.
>> A lot of other things going on as well. For now the most important thing 
>> is to give them at chance to get off the streets and have a place to stay.
>
>
> Right. In Northern Italy here in Gorizia most beggars (allowed) are 
> refugees from Africa. We have many. My friendly beggar from Nigeria left 
> the supermarket entrance some days ago saying "I can't risk it." He already 
> has state provision. Italy is good in that way. Very few people are truly 
> homeless.
>
> TT
>
>  
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Bilingual pages swapper - new simple plugin

[A Gloom]

Nice, I see this being useful in the US were bilingual is becoming more 
commonplace.

I like how it uses your work combined with Mohammad's -- combining the 
skills of both of you.

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[tw5] Re: Book references

[A Gloom]

Jon

shows the names of those tiddlers, as links, which contain a reference to 
the book
(I don't know if this is the most elegant way of doing this)
I was wondering, is it possible to extract the page number as well, to 
somehow create a list of the page numbers for myref1?


The page numbers for each footnote entry as entered in the macro?

a wild idea, so warning VOLTAILE & untested..

<$vars ftrpage="Hi">

<>


then instead of {{{ }}}
go with a list widget

<$list filter="[!is[system]regexp:text{{
Footnotes##myref1}}"><$link><$view field="title"/><$list filter=for 
reading vars of each tiddler of the first list/>


is there any operators to read variables in a tiddler? I know there is a 
global (wiki wide) variable display.  
https://tiddlywiki.com/#getvariable%20Operator

don't know how it will work but I'm sure someone will yell "Danger!" : D

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Re: [tw5] Editor toolbar button that toggles a tag?

[Mohammad]

Julio,
 What I learned is how to add such action to EditorToolbar with that 
details, for examples I did not know about conditions field.

Mohammad -:)

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 12:59:40 AM UTC+4:30, Julio Peña wrote:
>
> Wow Mohammad,
>
> Thanks for sharing...I always wanted to do something 
> like this but never got around to figuring it out.
> Good stuff!
>
> Best regards,
> Julio
>
> On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 2:57:33 PM UTC-4, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Based on Jeremy instruction, a sample Tiddlywiki with RTL button and 
>> sample Persian tiddlers is available here:
>> http://kookma.rtl.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Bilingual pages swapper - new simple plugin

[Mohammad]

Hi Olegh,
 Really great stuff. Love them!

One question: Do you prepare both tiddlers in Uk/En or this is done by code?

--Mohammad

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 12:16:52 AM UTC+4:30, oleghbond wrote:
>
> Plugin is:
>
>- titled BOA - Bilingual pages swapper,
>- placed locally at $:/plugins/boa/langswap 
>,
>- placed globally at https://protw.github.io/templ,
>- dependent on other plugins *Shiraz* and *Utility*.
>
> The plugin sets an additional button at the top right of a tiddler 
> intended for switching between identical pages in *Ukrainian* and 
> *English*. The name of the translated matching tiddler is written in the 
> tiddler field swap.
>
>
> Definitely, the plugin can be easily rewritten for any other pair of 
> languages!
>
>
> For example, we have two matching tiddlers titled Стаття and Article, 
> respectively in Ukrainian and English. In order to ensure correct 
> transition from tiddler Стаття in its field swap the value *Article* must 
> be specified, and in tiddler Article in the same field swap – the value 
> *Стаття*, respectively. Also, each of the two tiddlers must be tagged 
> with their language,  Ukr or  Eng, respectively.
>
>
> Additionally, the plugin creates two tag tiddlers Ukr 
>  and Eng 
> , each of which stores an ordered 
> list of all the tiddlers tagged with the *Ukr*  or *Eng*, respectively. 
> Moreover, the order of the tiddlers in these lists can be rearranged using 
> *drag-and-drop* by pre-clicking on the tag icon *Ukr* or *Eng*. And 
> that's not all - there are a couple of navigation buttons previous | next in 
> the bottom of each tiddler from the list. The functionality specified here 
> is provided with a simple-navigation macros, which is part of the plugin 
> $:/plugins/kookma/utility 
> .
>
>
> Also, the plugin creates two plane content tables Зміст and Content based 
> on the Ukr  and Eng 
>  tags, respectively. These two 
> tables of content are placed in the sidebar under Content-Зміст tab.
>

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[tw5] Re: Book references

[Mohammad]

Jon,


On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 6:09:50 PM UTC+4:30, Jon wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> In a datatiddler called 'Footnotes', I have a series of book references 
> e.g.
>
> myref1: The Greek Myths, Robert Graves
>
> To make reference to the book in another tiddler I use Mohammed's Refnotes 
> 
>
> <>
>
>
> Then in a tiddler titled The Greek Myths, Robert Graves
>
> {{{[!is[system]regexp:text[{{Footnotes##myref1}}]]}}}
>

I see here nested curly brackets. To my best knowledge, TW confuses with 
such script. 

>
> shows the names of those tiddlers, as links, which contain a reference to 
> the book
> (I don't know if this is the most elegant way of doing this)
>
> I was wondering, is it possible to extract the page number as well, to 
> somehow create a list of the page numbers for myref1?
>
> Regards
> Jon
>
> --Mohammad 

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