RE: [tips] 73% flunked
What Michael didn't mention is that 70-80% of the students passed the same test every year over the past ten years, and they completely changed the scoring criteria this year. I'd say that perhaps they should take a close look at the standards used for passing. Martin Bourgeois Professor and Chair Social and Behavioral Sciences Florida Gulf Coast University Fort Myers, FL 33931 ** Confidentiality Statement Florida has a very broad public records law. As a result, any written communication created or received by Florida Gulf Coast University employees is subject to disclosure to the public and the media, upon request, unless otherwise exempt. Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your email address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. From: mjchael sylvester [msylves...@copper.net] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:38 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] 73% flunked 73% of Florida's 4th,6th,8th and 10th graders who took the State's FCAT exam flunked the writing portion of the test.So they decided to lower the standards for passing so more would be counted as passing.Some are calling for the abolishment of the test.Considering the amount of texting those students do,I was expecting a higher passing rate. michael --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: mbour...@fgcu.edumailto:mbour...@fgcu.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13390.2bbc1cc8fd0e5f9e0b91f01828c87814n=Tl=tipso=17854 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-17854-13390.2bbc1cc8fd0e5f9e0b91f01828c87...@fsulist.frostburg.edumailto:leave-17854-13390.2bbc1cc8fd0e5f9e0b91f01828c87...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=17876 or send a blank email to leave-17876-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] 73% flunked
Are you implying that by requiring higher standards a disservice was done to the current students' pool? I doubt educators in Japan and Pacific rim countries will use your rationalization. michael - Original Message - From: Bourgeois, Dr. Martin To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 6:54 AM Subject: RE: [tips] 73% flunked What Michael didn't mention is that 70-80% of the students passed the same test every year over the past ten years, and they completely changed the scoring criteria this year. I'd say that perhaps they should take a close look at the standards used for passing. Martin Bourgeois Professor and Chair Social and Behavioral Sciences Florida Gulf Coast University Fort Myers, FL 33931 ** Confidentiality Statement Florida has a very broad public records law. As a result, any written communication created or received by Florida Gulf Coast University employees is subject to disclosure to the public and the media, upon request, unless otherwise exempt. Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your email address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- From: mjchael sylvester [msylves...@copper.net] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:38 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] 73% flunked 73% of Florida's 4th,6th,8th and 10th graders who took the State's FCAT exam flunked the writing portion of the test.So they decided to lower the standards for passing so more would be counted as passing.Some are calling for the abolishment of the test.Considering the amount of texting those students do,I was expecting a higher passing rate. michael --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: mbour...@fgcu.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13390.2bbc1cc8fd0e5f9e0b91f01828c87814n=Tl=tipso=17854 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-17854-13390.2bbc1cc8fd0e5f9e0b91f01828c87...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: msylves...@copper.net. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13424.eb17e1c03643c971ab35c22d86587541n=Tl=tipso=17876 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-17876-13424.eb17e1c03643c971ab35c22d86587...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=17884 or send a blank email to leave-17884-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
[tips] 73% flunked
73% of Florida's 4th,6th,8th and 10th graders who took the State's FCAT exam flunked the writing portion of the test.So they decided to lower the standards for passing so more would be counted as passing.Some are calling for the abolishment of the test.Considering the amount of texting those students do,I was expecting a higher passing rate. michael --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=17854 or send a blank email to leave-17854-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] 73% flunked
Well, as someone once said scratch a criterion and find a norm .. Criterion referenced tests have a fixed standard to passing, while normed tests are graded on a curve. == John W. Kulig, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology Coordinator, University Honors Plymouth State University Plymouth NH 03264 == - Original Message - From: mjchael sylvester msylves...@copper.net To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:38:16 AM Subject: [tips] 73% flunked 73% of Florida's 4th,6th,8th and 10th graders who took the State's FCAT exam flunked the writing portion of the test.So they decided to lower the standards for passing so more would be counted as passing.Some are calling for the abolishment of the test.Considering the amount of texting those students do,I was expecting a higher passing rate. michael --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: ku...@mail.plymouth.edu . To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13338.f659d005276678c0696b7f6beda66454n=Tl=tipso=17854 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-17854-13338.f659d005276678c0696b7f6beda66...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=17855 or send a blank email to leave-17855-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] 73% flunked
If you fund public schools like the third world then you will get results like the third world. Simple. If you undermine the public system with charter schools, vouchers for private schools, and the like, then your results will be undermined. Simple If you pay teachers like they are unskilled laborers, then only people who would otherwise be unskilled laborers will be teachers. (Yes, of course, there will be a talented few who are on a mission to be teachers, but an impoverished system will beat them down and/or squeeze them out soon enough.) Simple. The strategy of the anti-public movement has been transparent for decades now: Do everything in your power to defund, dismantle, disable, and ultimately destroy every public institution you come across, then declare, to your horror, that the public system has failed and that only a private system could possibly do the job. Then, once the private system is in place, squeeze it for every dime you can get out of it, for there will no longer be a public system left to which people can return. Of course, this would only work in a country where the population has been conditioned to regard anything that happens in other countries as being relevant. http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/dec/07/world-education-rankings-maths-science-reading Chris --- Christopher D. Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 Canada chri...@yorku.ca http://www.yorku.ca/christo/ == On 2012-05-17, at 10:38 AM, mjchael sylvester wrote: 73% of Florida's 4th,6th,8th and 10th graders who took the State's FCAT exam flunked the writing portion of the test.So they decided to lower the standards for passing so more would be counted as passing.Some are calling for the abolishment of the test.Considering the amount of texting those students do,I was expecting a higher passing rate. michael --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: chri...@yorku.ca. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62bd92n=Tl=tipso=17854 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-17854-430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62b...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=17857 or send a blank email to leave-17857-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] 73% flunked
On 2012-05-17, at 12:44 PM, Christopher Green wrote: Of course, this would only work in a country where the population has been conditioned to regard anything that happens in other countries as being relevant. Sorry, that should have been IRrelevant. http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/dec/07/world-education-rankings-maths-science-reading Chris --- Christopher D. Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 Canada chri...@yorku.ca http://www.yorku.ca/christo/ == --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=17858 or send a blank email to leave-17858-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] 73% flunked
Hi I presume Chris saw the irony of a Canadian giving this advice? Although American TIPs readers are probably not a representative sample of the USA population. Take care Jim James M. Clark Professor of Psychology 204-786-9757 204-774-4134 Fax j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca Christopher Green chri...@yorku.ca 17-May-12 7:47 pm On 2012-05-17, at 12:44 PM, Christopher Green wrote: Of course, this would only work in a country where the population has been conditioned to regard anything that happens in other countries as being relevant. Sorry, that should have been IRrelevant. http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/dec/07/world-education-rankings-maths-science-reading Chris --- Christopher D. Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 Canada chri...@yorku.ca http://www.yorku.ca/christo/ == --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13251.645f86b5cec4da0a56ffea7a891720c9n=Tl=tipso=17858 or send a blank email to leave-17858-13251.645f86b5cec4da0a56ffea7a89172...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=17860 or send a blank email to leave-17860-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
