Re: [tips] What Price Altruism?
On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 11:28:08 -0700, Christopher Green wrote: What brought Price up, Mike? I came across the article on the mosaic science website via a newsletter I get. At first, I thought I knew the equation and Price but I was mistaken and did a little more background reading to get a better understanding. A really sad case. One wonders how things would have turned out if his thyroid removal hadn't been botched and/or if he had continued to take his thyroid hormone supplements. I remember writing a paper about him and his equation in a graduate philosophy seminar many years ago. A philosophy class? Did they incorporate Price's work into the course or was it just your choice for a paper topic? If the former, what was the context of presentation? If the latter, why did you choose Price? Do miserable lives interest you? ;-) (As I recall, no one else in the room understood what a variance was, Given that Price's equation uses *covariances* I can see how most of the people taking the course would have problems understanding what the equation meant. I guess this was not a Philosophy of Science course because you should have had a physicist or two and/or other "real" science types in the room. Reminds of a social psych grad course I took that was supposed to cover structural equation modeling (SEM) and causal analysis. There were two problems: (1) the professor who was supposed to teach the course was new and was relocating from Australia; he didn't show up until about the 6th week of the course, and (2) because we knew the prof wasn't going to be there early on, one of the other social psych faculty was standing in but the problem was the social psych program was going through its Marxist phase so the substitute faculty knew Marxism but no SEM, ditto for the social psych grad students -- it was decided that we engage in "cooperative learning" and teach each other the material that was to be covered. I was the only one who knew what SEM was and knew some matrix algebra but because I was in the experimental/cognitive program, I didn't really fit in and didn't participate much. When the new prof finally arrived and realized that most of the class could not follow the math, he just taught SEM in an informal, conceptual manner. I did not learn much about SEM from the course but I did learn something about praxis and other Marxist concepts which I have for the most part forgotten. When the Marxism fad was over, everyone converted to health psychology which has always made me wonder about it. ;-) which made it a little tricky to explain why the equation was such a breakthrough - even though it seems to still get relatively scant mention even today.) ... If one does a Google Scholar search with the terms "Price equation" and "George R Price", one gets 44 hits with the following being recent articles that refer/use the Price equation: Markey-Towler, B. (2016). Law of the jungle: firm survival and price dynamics in evolutionary markets. Journal of Evolutionary Economics, 1-42. Pievani, T., & Parravicini, A. (2016). Multilevel Selection in a Broader Hierarchical Perspective. Evolutionary Theory: A Hierarchical Perspective, 174. Sæther, B. E., & Engen, S. (2015). The concept of fitness in fluctuating environments. Trends in ecology & evolution, 30(5), 273-281. NOTE: A copy is available at: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Bernt-Erik_Saether/publication/274571552_The_concept_of_fitness_in_fluctuating_environments/links/55261a220cf24b822b40751c.pdf Marshall, J. A. (2015). Social evolution and inclusive fitness theory: an introduction. Princeton University Press. ... Venkateswaran, C., & Nivetha, N. (2013). ALTRUSTRIC BEHAVIOUR OF SOCIAL MEDIA WORKERS. International Journal of Logistics & Supply Chain Management Perspectives, 2(4), 687. Van Veelen, M., García, J., Sabelis, M. W., & Egas, M. (2012). Group selection and inclusive fitness are not equivalent; the Price equation vs. models and statistics. Journal of theoretical biology, 299, 64-80. Kock, N. (2011). A mathematical analysis of the evolution of human mate choice traits: Implications for evolutionary psychologists. Journal of Evolutionary Psychology, 9(3), 219-247. Harman, O. (2011). Birth of the first ESS: George Price, John Maynard Smith, and the discovery of the lost "Antlers" paper. Journal of Experimental Zoology Part B: Molecular and Developmental Evolution, 316(1), 1-9. Gardner, A. (2008). The price equation. Current Biology, 18(5), R198-R202. NOTE: Available at: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S096098220880 Andersen, E. S. (2004). Population thinking, Price's equation and the analysis of economic evolution. Evolutionary and Institutional Economics Review, 1(1), 127-148. Andersen, E. S. (2004). Evolutionary econometrics: From Joseph Schumpeter's failed econometrics to George Price's general evometrics and beyond. In Paper for the third workshop on the Economic Transformation of E
Re: [tips] What Price Altruism?
What brought Price up, Mike? I remember writing a paper about him and his equation in a graduate philosophy seminar many years ago. (As I recall, no one else in the room understood what a variance was, which made it a little tricky to explain why the equation was such a breakthrough — even though it seems to still get relatively scant mention even today.) Chris ….. Christopher D Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 Canada 43.773895°, -79.503670° chri...@yorku.ca http://www.yorku.ca/christo ... On Sep 18, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Mike Palij wrote: > George R. Price was born in NYC and would go down a crooked > road that would ultimately lead to the Galton Lab where he would > produced what is now referred to as the "Price Equation" that > attempts to explain why altruism exists if evolutionary theory is > correct. An interesting -- if depressing -- account of his life and > its twists and turns is presented in the following article, which > puts Price's life in the context of a female British playwright who > would write a play about Price; see: > http://mosaicscience.com/story/George-Price-altruism-equation?utm_source=narratively&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weekender09182016 > NOTE: at the bottom of the article is a reference list but one > has to click on the "reference bar" to see them. > > For more "straight " info on Price, there entries in Wikipedia > that provide more information but leaving out some of the details > in the article above: > The biographical entry on Price: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_R._Price > On the Price Equation: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_equation > An entry on a movie where the Price equation plays > a critical role: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%CE%94Z > NOTE: The original title of the movie is "W (Greek Symbol delta) Z" > which is a part of the equation. In the U.S., the movie > was released with the title "The Killing Gene" which is > available on Amazon: > https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Gene-Barbara-Adair/dp/B00151QY9Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1474212073&sr=8-1&keywords=The+Killing+Gene > > I think that one can't help feeling sorry for Price because > though he was brilliant in certain ways, he did not have the > self-insight to understand how he would ultimately destroy > himself. > > -Mike Palij > New York University > m...@nyu.edu > > P.S. No new explosions today in NYC. > > --- > You are currently subscribed to tips as: chri...@yorku.ca. > To unsubscribe click here: > http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62bd92&n=T&l=tips&o=49475 > or send a blank email to > leave-49475-430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62b...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@mail-archive.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=49476 or send a blank email to leave-49476-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
[tips] What Price Altruism?
George R. Price was born in NYC and would go down a crooked road that would ultimately lead to the Galton Lab where he would produced what is now referred to as the "Price Equation" that attempts to explain why altruism exists if evolutionary theory is correct. An interesting -- if depressing -- account of his life and its twists and turns is presented in the following article, which puts Price's life in the context of a female British playwright who would write a play about Price; see: http://mosaicscience.com/story/George-Price-altruism-equation?utm_source=narratively&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weekender09182016 NOTE: at the bottom of the article is a reference list but one has to click on the "reference bar" to see them. For more "straight " info on Price, there entries in Wikipedia that provide more information but leaving out some of the details in the article above: The biographical entry on Price: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_R._Price On the Price Equation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_equation An entry on a movie where the Price equation plays a critical role: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%CE%94Z NOTE: The original title of the movie is "W (Greek Symbol delta) Z" which is a part of the equation. In the U.S., the movie was released with the title "The Killing Gene" which is available on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Gene-Barbara-Adair/dp/B00151QY9Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1474212073&sr=8-1&keywords=The+Killing+Gene I think that one can't help feeling sorry for Price because though he was brilliant in certain ways, he did not have the self-insight to understand how he would ultimately destroy himself. -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu P.S. No new explosions today in NYC. --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@mail-archive.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=49475 or send a blank email to leave-49475-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu