Re: [VOTE] Removal of mod_jk for Apache 2.0 from jakarta-tomcat f or Tomcat 3.3
On Monday 10 September 2001 14:05, Pier Fumagalli wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Pier Fumagalli wrote: GOMEZ Henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan to became more than just a contributer : This is the third time we agree on something in less than 24 hours. This implies that either I'm getting old, or just plain silly... Now, if you could agree on merging mod_webapp and mod_jk, that would be something... Slowww down... :) If mod_jk wants to start using APR, I believe we're talking, otherwise, I'm done with cross-platform porting, I live it to Ryan Oh no you don't. I did the cross-platform stuff. I wrote APR to get awar from it. Ryan __ Ryan Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Covalent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: [VOTE] Removal of mod_jk for Apache 2.0 from jakarta-tomcat f or Tomcat 3.3
On Monday 10 September 2001 14:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Pier Fumagalli wrote: This is the third time we agree on something in less than 24 hours. This implies that either I'm getting old, or just plain silly... Now, if you could agree on merging mod_webapp and mod_jk, that would be something... Slowww down... :) If mod_jk wants to start using APR, I believe we're talking, otherwise, I'm done with cross-platform porting, I live it to Ryan :) Mod_jk will use APR - that's certain. The only question is when and how to do the transition without affecting the stability of the code. Having an APR1.0 out is one of the requirements - I don't think we can release mod_jk, even from j-t-c, with dependencies on un-released library. There are already 2 proposals for how to do that - one with preserving the current common as a temporary solution, until we make sure it works with IIS/NES, and the other with removing the common utils and hoping things will work with IIS/NES. Right now the APR/common is not the main itch - it'll become pretty soon, at least for me ( I need mmap for the new connector ) I'm actually right now working on the thread locks for Windows, and then I am going to start agitating for an APR release. We should have APR 1.0 out the door soon-ish. I am hoping to have it released sometime in the next month or two. :-) Ryan __ Ryan Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Covalent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: [VOTE] Removal of mod_jk for Apache 2.0 from jakarta-tomcat f or Tomcat 3.3
On Monday 10 September 2001 15:22, Pier Fumagalli wrote: Ryan Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMAP is the other scary stuff in APR, the new code (without Ralph's libmm) it no more than one month old... I need it for load balancing, but I want to double check with the guys in CA next week and see what they tell me before publishing anything.. Actually, MMAP has been in APR for a long time, it is just shared memory that is new. My bad... :) And, the shared memory code has been stressed in Apache for the last month. Also the shared memory code is basically just the important stuff from the MM library. My last status was 2 weeks ago when I last saw David, and he said wait for a little longer still... So, can I assume that little longer is over? I think so. The problem back then, was that he needed APR to be available before he could do anything with apr-util, but we were cleaning APR before trying to clean apr-util, and it just didn't work. That was a BeOS-only problem though. Ryan __ Ryan Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Covalent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: [VOTE] Removal of mod_jk for Apache 2.0 from jakarta-tomcat f or Tomcat 3.3
En réponse à [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Pier Fumagalli wrote: GOMEZ Henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan to became more than just a contributer : This is the third time we agree on something in less than 24 hours. This implies that either I'm getting old, or just plain silly... Now, if you could agree on merging mod_webapp and mod_jk, that would be something... I'm ok for that, may be by merging ajp14 and warp (ajp20). We could have this protocol implementation in mod_jk and mod_webapp :) I'm serious here... Benefits : - with mod_jk, you'll gain AP1.3/AP2.0/IIS/NES/IPLANET/DOMINO, fault-tolerance, load-balancing, JNI and a good old and known modules. - with mod_webapp, you're right on the future with goodies like APR. And may be tomcat 4.0 could also add ajp13 support from works in JTC ? The best of both world PS: Something goes crasy these days, on tomcat list, what do you think about this Pier (known as my worst enemy :) - Henri Gomez ___[_] EMAIL : [EMAIL PROTECTED](. .) PGP KEY : 697ECEDD...oOOo..(_)..oOOo... PGP Fingerprint : 9DF8 1EA8 ED53 2F39 DC9B 904A 364F 80E6
Re: [VOTE] Removal of mod_jk for Apache 2.0 from jakarta-tomcat f or Tomcat 3.3
I'm actually right now working on the thread locks for Windows, and then I am going to start agitating for an APR release. We should have APR 1.0 out the door soon-ish. I am hoping to have it released sometime in the next month or two. :-) That's the last objection to use APR instead of current native works in jk (ie jk_pool). As soon there will be an APR, release we could start mod_jk translation to APR (and yes MANY MANY MANY code cleanup). - Henri Gomez ___[_] EMAIL : [EMAIL PROTECTED](. .) PGP KEY : 697ECEDD...oOOo..(_)..oOOo... PGP Fingerprint : 9DF8 1EA8 ED53 2F39 DC9B 904A 364F 80E6
Re: [VOTE] Removal of mod_jk for Apache 2.0 from jakarta-tomcat f or Tomcat 3.3
Gomez Henri wrote: [snip] PS: Something goes crasy these days, on tomcat list, what do you think about this Pier (known as my worst enemy :) Something is indeed a little bizarre on the list today, mon ami. Maybe because Craig isn't here to keep us in line =) a) There are now four key people seriously discussing a partial merge of mod_jk and mod_webapp b) Henri and Pier are agreeing on all sorts of things c) The 3.3 guys are congratulating the 4.0 guys and vice-versa d) There have been about 15 votes in last 24 hours e) _I'm_ the short-tempered one, for a change The only reason I know for sure that the world is still spinning is that Jon is still vetoing things ;-) - Christopher /** * Pleurez, pleurez, mes yeux, et fondez vous en eau! * La moitié de ma vie a mis l'autre au tombeau. *---Corneille */
Re: [VOTE] Removal of mod_jk for Apache 2.0 from jakarta-tomcat f or Tomcat 3.3
On Monday 10 September 2001 16:15, Christopher Cain wrote: Gomez Henri wrote: [snip] PS: Something goes crasy these days, on tomcat list, what do you think about this Pier (known as my worst enemy :) Something is indeed a little bizarre on the list today, mon ami. Maybe because Craig isn't here to keep us in line =) a) There are now four key people seriously discussing a partial merge of mod_jk and mod_webapp b) Henri and Pier are agreeing on all sorts of things c) The 3.3 guys are congratulating the 4.0 guys and vice-versa d) There have been about 15 votes in last 24 hours e) _I'm_ the short-tempered one, for a change The only reason I know for sure that the world is still spinning is that Jon is still vetoing things ;-) Well, I'm new to the list, but I like to veto things too. Somebody point me at something I can veto... :-) Ryan __ Ryan Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Covalent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: [VOTE] Removal of mod_jk for Apache 2.0 from jakarta-tomcat f or Tomcat 3.3
Ryan Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I'm new to the list, but I like to veto things too. Somebody point me at something I can veto... :-) You can always veto your committer status... :) :) :) Pier
Re: [VOTE] Removal of mod_jk for Apache 2.0 from jakarta-tomcat f or Tomcat 3.3
Gomez Henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm ok for that, may be by merging ajp14 and warp (ajp20). Ok... I can agree with that... We could have this protocol implementation in mod_jk and mod_webapp :) Sure do... I'm serious here... Me too... - with mod_jk, you'll gain AP1.3/AP2.0/IIS/NES/IPLANET/DOMINO, fault-tolerance, load-balancing, JNI and a good old and known modules. Yeah... - with mod_webapp, you're right on the future with goodies like APR. And may be tomcat 4.0 could also add ajp13 support from works in JTC ? Ok... I have no clue on how JK works, but fairly know how to take the shit out on TC side... I'll give a shot to JK and AJPv13, run watchdog and tester, at the same time, I'd like for you to look at WebApp and tell me what's wrong with it... Why don't we keep a NON-APR (JK), and progress works on APR based on WebApp? Joining AJPv14 and WARP? The best of both world Definitely... PS: Something goes crasy these days, on tomcat list, what do you think about this Pier (known as my worst enemy :) I believe it's because we are all so tired about fighting, and going out with the two trees (3.3 and 4.0) more or less at the same time, offloaded the pressure _a_lot_... And we don't want to be bitchy with each other? Pier (feeling awkward!)
Re: [VOTE] Removal of mod_jk for Apache 2.0 from jakarta-tomcat f or Tomcat 3.3
Christopher Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something is indeed a little bizarre on the list today, mon ami. Maybe because Craig isn't here to keep us in line =) No, I believe we have to thank Jon for that... I believe that raising another flame war at this point made us all realize that probably we _could_ work together somehow... The releases are out/planned, a big relief valve... We might not agree on ANYTHING, but a) There are now four key people seriously discussing a partial merge of mod_jk and mod_webapp Oh yes... b) Henri and Pier are agreeing on all sorts of things Weirdest 24 hours ever (well, since me and Peter Donald got along, anyhow!) c) The 3.3 guys are congratulating the 4.0 guys and vice-versa Well, a release 's a release :) d) There have been about 15 votes in last 24 hours More than that e) _I'm_ the short-tempered one, for a change No, you're not... The only reason I know for sure that the world is still spinning is that Jon is still vetoing things ;-) Ah, that's NEVER going to change... Pier
