Re: web_app in jakarta-tomcat-connectors ?

2001-05-17 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli


Of all the ones who voted +1 is there someone who's going to do something
about it?

Pier




Re: web_app in jakarta-tomcat-connectors ?

2001-05-17 Thread cmanolache

On Thu, 17 May 2001, Pier P. Fumagalli wrote:

 
 Of all the ones who voted +1 is there someone who's going to do something
 about it?

What do you mean by that ? To move the code in jakarata-tomcat-connectors?

I guess most of the people who voted +1 are going to work on
jakarta-tomcat-connectors or are alredy doing so. We already agreed that
the webapp configuration stuff is going to be integrated into mod_jk, and
I'm sure we'll take a look at the warp protocol - either as an additional
protocol for mod_jk, or to merge it with ajp14.


Costin





Re: web_app in jakarta-tomcat-connectors ?

2001-05-17 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli

[EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 17 May 2001, Pier P. Fumagalli wrote:
 
 
 Of all the ones who voted +1 is there someone who's going to do something
 about it?
 
 What do you mean by that ? To move the code in jakarata-tomcat-connectors?
 
 I guess most of the people who voted +1 are going to work on
 jakarta-tomcat-connectors or are alredy doing so. We already agreed that
 the webapp configuration stuff is going to be integrated into mod_jk, and
 I'm sure we'll take a look at the warp protocol - either as an additional
 protocol for mod_jk, or to merge it with ajp14.

I mean that someone (Henri) asked to vote on moving the code of webapp from
the jakarta-tomcat-4.0 to the jakarta-tomcat-connectors CVS repository.

A bunch of people (including you) voted +1 on that proposal (not me), so, if
the guys who voted +1 want to do that, please do so (three days passed, vote
is up, with a bunch of +1 - more than three - one 0 - mine - and no -1).

Otherwise, you guys do whatever you want (as always)... Bah...

Sometimes I just _love_ my f***in' limbo where I seclude myself and do
whatever I want...

Pier




Re: web_app in jakarta-tomcat-connectors ?

2001-05-16 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli

[EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 [+1] Let's move mod_webapp and all its related stuff in jakarta-connectors.
 
 +1 The stuff is not ready ( neither the new mod_jk for 4.0 nor mod_webapp
 ), and when it is - tomcat-dev should decide which one will be used in
 4.0. Isn't it how it works ?

Yeah, however that doesn't force anyone to give up his work, or should we
start debating on 3.x being a dead end??? :) :) :)

 This way it'll be fair - and you'll get your code used because and if
 it'll be better than mod_jk, not because it is the default for 4.0.

Ok, I'm going to shut up now otherwise we'll end up in the same old
flamewar. What-EVER.

Pier




Re: web_app in jakarta-tomcat-connectors ?

2001-05-16 Thread cmanolache

On Wed, 16 May 2001, Pier P. Fumagalli wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  [+1] Let's move mod_webapp and all its related stuff in jakarta-connectors.
  
  +1 The stuff is not ready ( neither the new mod_jk for 4.0 nor mod_webapp
  ), and when it is - tomcat-dev should decide which one will be used in
  4.0. Isn't it how it works ?
 
 Yeah, however that doesn't force anyone to give up his work, or should we
 start debating on 3.x being a dead end??? :) :) :)

I don't think there is anything to debate about that. 

All we know is that we have a release plan for a 3.3 release, a plan for a
4.0 release using a different code base - and commiters will decide what
code base will be used for 5.0 ( it may be a completely different one -
who knows ? ).

Anyone is free to try new ideas - and to ignore existing code and reinvent
the weels. And anyone is free to choose the codebase he thing has the best
chances for long-term and work on it. 

But tomcat-dev must decide what is used in a certain release - and
making mod_webapp the default for 4.0 is not fair. When you feel it's
ready we can of course vote on it - and if indeed it's better I would be
happy to use it in 3.x also. I believe mod_jk has more chances - so that's
where I'll put my free development time ( if I find any :-).

Costin


  This way it'll be fair - and you'll get your code used because and if
  it'll be better than mod_jk, not because it is the default for 4.0.
 
 Ok, I'm going to shut up now otherwise we'll end up in the same old
 flamewar. What-EVER.





Re: web_app in jakarta-tomcat-connectors ?

2001-05-16 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli

[EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 16 May 2001, Pier P. Fumagalli wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 [+1] Let's move mod_webapp and all its related stuff in jakarta-connectors.
 
 +1 The stuff is not ready ( neither the new mod_jk for 4.0 nor mod_webapp
 ), and when it is - tomcat-dev should decide which one will be used in
 4.0. Isn't it how it works ?
 
 Yeah, however that doesn't force anyone to give up his work, or should we
 start debating on 3.x being a dead end??? :) :) :)
 
 I don't think there is anything to debate about that.
 
 All we know is that we have a release plan for a 3.3 release, a plan for a
 4.0 release using a different code base - and commiters will decide what
 code base will be used for 5.0 ( it may be a completely different one -
 who knows ? ).
 
 Anyone is free to try new ideas - and to ignore existing code and reinvent
 the weels. And anyone is free to choose the codebase he thing has the best
 chances for long-term and work on it.
 
 But tomcat-dev must decide what is used in a certain release - and
 making mod_webapp the default for 4.0 is not fair. When you feel it's
 ready we can of course vote on it - and if indeed it's better I would be
 happy to use it in 3.x also. I believe mod_jk has more chances - so that's
 where I'll put my free development time ( if I find any :-).

One cannot even write a little joke that someone will start nitpicking
him... Bah... Apparently smileys got lost in my message...

Pier




web_app in jakarta-tomcat-connectors ?

2001-05-15 Thread GOMEZ Henri

What about importing the mod_webapp code in 
jakarta-tomcat-connectors ?

There is allready jk stuff (native, java), we could
also have here a 'wa' subdir 

jakarta-tomcat-connectors/wa/src/native/apache-1.3/
jakarta-tomcat-connectors/wa/src/native/apache-2.0/
jakarta-tomcat-connectors/wa/src/native/include/
jakarta-tomcat-connectors/wa/src/java/


The idea is to provide to new users a common area when
he's looking for web-server to servlet-engine connectors.
 
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Re: web_app in jakarta-tomcat-connectors ?

2001-05-15 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli

GOMEZ Henri at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What about importing the mod_webapp code in
 jakarta-tomcat-connectors ?
 
 There is allready jk stuff (native, java), we could
 also have here a 'wa' subdir 
 
 jakarta-tomcat-connectors/wa/src/native/apache-1.3/
 jakarta-tomcat-connectors/wa/src/native/apache-2.0/
 jakarta-tomcat-connectors/wa/src/native/include/
 jakarta-tomcat-connectors/wa/src/java/
 
 
 The idea is to provide to new users a common area when
 he's looking for web-server to servlet-engine connectors.

Bah... I don't see any advantage for that, but you're more than welcome to
do it. Actually, let's ask to the list:

[+1] Let's move mod_webapp and all its related stuff in jakarta-connectors.
[ 0] I don't give a damn.
[-1] Keep it where it is because (please explain)

Pier: 0




RE: web_app in jakarta-tomcat-connectors ?

2001-05-15 Thread GOMEZ Henri

 jakarta-tomcat-connectors/wa/src/native/apache-1.3/
 jakarta-tomcat-connectors/wa/src/native/apache-2.0/
 jakarta-tomcat-connectors/wa/src/native/include/
 jakarta-tomcat-connectors/wa/src/java/
 
 
 The idea is to provide to new users a common area when
 he's looking for web-server to servlet-engine connectors.

Bah... I don't see any advantage for that, but you're more 
than welcome to
do it. Actually, let's ask to the list:

[+1] Let's move mod_webapp and all its related stuff in 
jakarta-connectors.
[ 0] I don't give a damn.
[-1] Keep it where it is because (please explain)

Pier: 0

Didn't the jakarta-tomcat-connectors goal is to remove
the connectors stuff from the servlet-engine code ?

+1 in that case.






Re: web_app in jakarta-tomcat-connectors ?

2001-05-15 Thread kevin seguin

 
 [+1] Let's move mod_webapp and all its related stuff in jakarta-connectors.
 [ 0] I don't give a damn.
 [-1] Keep it where it is because (please explain)
 

+1

i'm of the opinion that the core parts of connectors should be servlet
container agnostic and separate from any container.

also, i think if webapp and warp (or the core parts of it) were moved
outside of tomcat 4, a lot of people would be happier when tomcat 5 hits
the streets and a connector is needed :)



Re: web_app in jakarta-tomcat-connectors ?

2001-05-15 Thread cmanolache

On Tue, 15 May 2001, Pier P. Fumagalli wrote:

 GOMEZ Henri at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  What about importing the mod_webapp code in
  jakarta-tomcat-connectors ?
  
  There is allready jk stuff (native, java), we could
  also have here a 'wa' subdir 
  
  jakarta-tomcat-connectors/wa/src/native/apache-1.3/
  jakarta-tomcat-connectors/wa/src/native/apache-2.0/
  jakarta-tomcat-connectors/wa/src/native/include/
  jakarta-tomcat-connectors/wa/src/java/
  
  
  The idea is to provide to new users a common area when
  he's looking for web-server to servlet-engine connectors.
 
 Bah... I don't see any advantage for that, but you're more than welcome to
 do it. Actually, let's ask to the list:
 
 [+1] Let's move mod_webapp and all its related stuff in jakarta-connectors.

+1 The stuff is not ready ( neither the new mod_jk for 4.0 nor mod_webapp
), and when it is - tomcat-dev should decide which one will be used in
4.0. Isn't it how it works ? 

This way it'll be fair - and you'll get your code used because and if
it'll be better than mod_jk, not because it is the default for 4.0.

Costin

 [ 0] I don't give a damn.
 [-1] Keep it where it is because (please explain)
 
 Pier: 0
 




Re: web_app in jakarta-tomcat-connectors ?

2001-05-15 Thread Jon Stevens

on 5/15/01 4:15 AM, GOMEZ Henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Didn't the jakarta-tomcat-connectors goal is to remove
 the connectors stuff from the servlet-engine code ?
 
 +1 in that case.

Remember, +1 means that you are willing to help out.

:-)

-jon

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