RE: Tools for benchmarking profiling Tomcat

2003-08-28 Thread Steph Richardson
Thanks Yoav,

I have tried OptimizeIt which does not seem to have the same problem with idle IO time 
as JProfiler, and so I got much different (
and better ) results. Some tech staff at ej-technologies, told me that the next 
release of JProfiler in a few months will have a
seperate IO state that will take care of this problem.

Regards,

Steph

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 From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Howdy,

 Second half of this question is what is a good profiler to use with
 Tomcat

 I like OptimizeIt.

 with my current Tomcat install, BUT it's major problem is that it
 includes
 time that threads spend idly listening on sockets. So

 That's proper behavior.  I'm not aware of a profiler that magically
 decided what is and isn't appropriate to profile for your webapp.
 Well-written tests don't have much idle time in general.  I'm also not
 aware of any profilers that can take an operation ignore list (e.g.
 socket_read, socket_write) and ignore CPU time spent on those
 operations.

 Yoav Shapira



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Re: Tools for benchmarking profiling Tomcat

2003-08-25 Thread markw
I have not gotten jmeter to support mutually authenticated SSL.  Is this
possible?

 jmeter

 -Tim

 Steph Richardson wrote:
 I guess this is more of a generic http server question than a tomcat
 one, but I'm looking for recommended toolset(s) to use in
 benchmarking the performace of our tomcat based webapps.
 I'm looking for something like Apache Benchmarking Tool that I could use
 on windows - preferably free, and preferably a java based
 thing that I could run elsewhere, and that I could wrap in Ant tasks,
 and that supports https.

 Suggestions appreciated.




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RE: Tools for benchmarking profiling Tomcat

2003-08-25 Thread Steph Richardson
Second half of this question is what is a good profiler to use with Tomcat ?

I am currently using JProfiler ( 
http://www.ej-technologies.com/products/jprofiler/overview.html ) which plugs  plays 
really easily
with my current Tomcat install, BUT it's major problem is that it includes time that 
threads spend idly listening on sockets. So
when trying to identify performance hotspots in a server app like tomcat, it becomes 
very difficult to get a good view of what
percentage of time is spent where.

I have seen JProf ( http://starship.python.net/crew/garyp/jProf.html ) but I am 
scared by the use of the terms C++  JFC on the
intro page.

Any other suggestions - especially for something that will work well with Tomcat  
understands how to treat time spent in the IO
libs.

Thanks,

Steph



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 Subject: Tools for benchmarking  profiling Tomcat



 I guess this is more of a generic http server question than a tomcat one, but I'm 
 looking for recommended toolset(s) to use in
 benchmarking the performace of our tomcat based webapps.
 I'm looking for something like Apache Benchmarking Tool that I could use on windows 
 - preferably free, and preferably a java based
 thing that I could run elsewhere, and that I could wrap in Ant tasks, and that 
 supports https.

 Suggestions appreciated.

 
 Steph Richardson
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RE: Tools for benchmarking profiling Tomcat

2003-08-25 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,

Second half of this question is what is a good profiler to use with
Tomcat

I like OptimizeIt.

with my current Tomcat install, BUT it's major problem is that it
includes
time that threads spend idly listening on sockets. So

That's proper behavior.  I'm not aware of a profiler that magically
decided what is and isn't appropriate to profile for your webapp.
Well-written tests don't have much idle time in general.  I'm also not
aware of any profilers that can take an operation ignore list (e.g.
socket_read, socket_write) and ignore CPU time spent on those
operations.

Yoav Shapira



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Re: Tools for benchmarking profiling Tomcat

2003-08-23 Thread Tim Funk
jmeter

-Tim

Steph Richardson wrote:
I guess this is more of a generic http server question than a tomcat one, but I'm 
looking for recommended toolset(s) to use in
benchmarking the performace of our tomcat based webapps.
I'm looking for something like Apache Benchmarking Tool that I could use on windows - 
preferably free, and preferably a java based
thing that I could run elsewhere, and that I could wrap in Ant tasks, and that 
supports https.
Suggestions appreciated.



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