RE: What is a good dev-enviroment for servlet/tomcat?
Have you never run into a problem when multiple developers are working on the same server, and someone crashes the server, overwrites someone else's code, breaks something that someone else was relying on, or restarts the server when someone was in the middle of testing a long running batch job? I certainly have! It's easy to ensure people in a small team have the same version. Put up a poster with Tomcat 4.1.18 or something written on it, or if they are distributed around the world, email them weekly with what the approved development environment is. If they can't be trusted, replace them with people who can ;-). By all means have a single test server shared by everyone, but make sure people only upload code that has at least been locally module tested. That way everyone won't tread on each others toes all the time, and if the test server goes wrong, others can continue working in their local environments. Andy -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 October 2003 20:45 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: What is a good dev-enviroment for servlet/tomcat? Just a precaution. We had run into problem before when different developers have different version of Tomcat with different configuration locally. - Original Message - From: Shapira, Yoav [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 01:55 PM Subject: RE: What is a good dev-enviroment for servlet/tomcat? Howdy, IMHO, instead of one instance per developer, I think you should have one development server with one instance of Tomcat shared by the 3 developers. Why oh why do you think that?? Yoav Shapira This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: What is a good dev-enviroment for servlet/tomcat?
That's a good question, and I'd like to add a question too. How do you setup a server so that if you had 3 developers...each one has their own instance of tomcat running at the same time?? Russ -Original Message- From: joe udder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 1:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What is a good dev-enviroment for servlet/tomcat? Hello. I am thinking of how I can improve my development enviroment when doing my webapps. Until now, I've used a handcrafted build.xml to make my webapp, and then the usual _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is a good dev-enviroment for servlet/tomcat?
IMHO, instead of one instance per developer, I think you should have one development server with one instance of Tomcat shared by the 3 developers. If each of them is working on individual project, each developer can has his/her own application directory in Tomcat. And if they are working as a team on one project, you can use a version control software like CVS to control it. Just make sure nobody modify any system file in Tomcat without consensus, and you will be fine. There is no need for multiple Tomcat within development. But you need a separate installation for the test server, and another installation for the production server. If you must have a separate instance for each developer, you can simply use different port number for each instance. Hope this helps. - Original Message - From: Pitre, Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 01:00 PM Subject: RE: What is a good dev-enviroment for servlet/tomcat? That's a good question, and I'd like to add a question too. How do you setup a server so that if you had 3 developers...each one has their own instance of tomcat running at the same time?? Russ -Original Message- From: joe udder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 1:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What is a good dev-enviroment for servlet/tomcat? Hello. I am thinking of how I can improve my development enviroment when doing my webapps. Until now, I've used a handcrafted build.xml to make my webapp, and then the usual _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: What is a good dev-enviroment for servlet/tomcat?
Howdy, IMHO, instead of one instance per developer, I think you should have one development server with one instance of Tomcat shared by the 3 developers. Why oh why do you think that?? Yoav Shapira This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: What is a good dev-enviroment for servlet/tomcat?
Each developer needs their own tomcat on their desktop. There also needs to be a build/staging tomcat server where code to be released is built, packaged, and tested. --Angus -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 2:54 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: What is a good dev-enviroment for servlet/tomcat? IMHO, instead of one instance per developer, I think you should have one development server with one instance of Tomcat shared by the 3 developers. If each of them is working on individual project, each developer can has his/her own application directory in Tomcat. And if they are working as a team on one project, you can use a version control software like CVS to control it. Just make sure nobody modify any system file in Tomcat without consensus, and you will be fine. There is no need for multiple Tomcat within development. But you need a separate installation for the test server, and another installation for the production server. If you must have a separate instance for each developer, you can simply use different port number for each instance. Hope this helps. - Original Message - From: Pitre, Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 01:00 PM Subject: RE: What is a good dev-enviroment for servlet/tomcat? That's a good question, and I'd like to add a question too. How do you setup a server so that if you had 3 developers...each one has their own instance of tomcat running at the same time?? Russ -Original Message- From: joe udder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 1:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What is a good dev-enviroment for servlet/tomcat? Hello. I am thinking of how I can improve my development enviroment when doing my webapps. Until now, I've used a handcrafted build.xml to make my webapp, and then the usual _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is a good dev-enviroment for servlet/tomcat?
Hi Joe, Download DevCentre www.likhasoftware.com. It will simplify some stuff for you. Bern - Original Message - From: joe udder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 10:57 AM Subject: What is a good dev-enviroment for servlet/tomcat? Hello. I am thinking of how I can improve my development enviroment when doing my webapps. Until now, I've used a handcrafted build.xml to make my webapp, and then the usual _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is a good dev-enviroment for servlet/tomcat?
Just a precaution. We had run into problem before when different developers have different version of Tomcat with different configuration locally. - Original Message - From: Shapira, Yoav [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 01:55 PM Subject: RE: What is a good dev-enviroment for servlet/tomcat? Howdy, IMHO, instead of one instance per developer, I think you should have one development server with one instance of Tomcat shared by the 3 developers. Why oh why do you think that?? Yoav Shapira This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is a good dev-enviroment for servlet/tomcat?
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 07:54, epyonne wrote: IMHO, instead of one instance per developer, I think you should have one development server with one instance of Tomcat shared by the 3 developers. If each of them is working on individual project, each developer can has his/her own application directory in Tomcat. And if they are working as a team on one project, you can use a version control software like CVS to control it. Don't think I agree with this. We are always stopping and starting Tomcat in our environment. We have four developers, each with their own database and tomcat. We use CVS and do a intergration build every morning on all the development machines to ensure no check ins have broken anything. In terms of IDE - I have been using eclipse, other developers like jEdit, or even - god forbid - vim. We don't use netbeans as if forces you to use a odd directory structure. Our structure is something like /project /project/doc - documention /project/bin - classes /project/dist - for war file or jars /project/jsp - jsp's /project/model - business model /project/src - source code. Most tools can handle different paths for these things - probably netbeans can too - but we found netbeans rather slow. We use mainly lightweight tools. Also, idea deserves a mention, and although it costs it has some nice refactoring features. Sorry - don't want to start a general IDE flamewar, so this will be the last I say on this subject :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is a good dev-enviroment for servlet/tomcat?
I was thinking about methods to improve my so called development enviroment, and I am curious to learn how others do when they work. Until now I use a handcrafted build.xml which by using ant builds the jars, classes, creates WEB-INF and all that stuff. Later I use the normal catalina-scripts to launch and shutdown tomcat4. While it works, it is a slow and ineffective process I guess. That sounds pretty typical. If you're using ant to build your product, you do have to give it instructions :) The degree of which your source layout reflects the code structure of your application can make a difference in how easy/difficult it is to build. If your application has subcomponents, the source layout should reflect that sort of division. If you'd like to see more concrete examples, you can always get a copy of Tomcat's source code, and see how it's put together. For the related question: How do you setup a server so that if you had 3 developers...each one has their own instance of tomcat running at the same time?? This depends on your development environment. If all of your developers have tomcat running on the same host, you have a few options: - if you've got an apache front end, give each developer their own virtual host, and their own tomcat port. - if everyone runs tomcat standalone, give each their own set of ports. - (Standalone again) give each developer their own IP address for their tomcat instance. (Caveat: I've never set it up this way, but it looks like you can accomplish this by having each developer give the DN for their individual IP in the Host element of server.xml. Comments from anyone who's set it up this way?) In general, you can break network traffic up two way: IP addresses and ports. That's what you have to work with. -- Steve - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
