Re: [thg-dev] i18n issues in TortoiseHg 2.0.x series
2011/4/16 Yuya Nishihara : > Andrei Polushin wrote: >> 12.04.2011 23:00, Yuya Nishihara wrote: >> > Andrei Polushin wrote: >> >> When the translated text on the button is long, it looks cropped on both >> >> sides, so its hard to read that button. >> > >> > Does it happen at all places? or on specific widget? >> > Qt should construct the layout dynamically. >> >> Well, the word "cropped" was inappropriate. I should say "cramped", or >> "visually unpleasant". >> >> I've uploaded 4 illustrations, using long text in English to demonstrate how >> it looks like in translations. >> >> http://picasaweb.google.com/polushin/ThgButtons# >> >> btn-1 - Original buttons, normally looking. >> btn-2 - Buttons with long text, looking rather bad. >> btn-3 - with long text and highlighting, looking worse. >> btn-4 - with long text + padding 2 spaces, OK again (preferred). > > Hmm, WindowsXP style tends to narrow side margins, though not sure why. > > https://bitbucket.org/yuja/thg-work/downloads/button-width.png > > I think inserting padding can affect rendering on another platform. For instance, on Mac OS X, inserting padding is affecting rendering. If something has to fixed, it should not be done by adding space characters but by fixing Qt rendering on Windows XP. André -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ Tortoisehg-develop mailing list Tortoisehg-develop@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tortoisehg-develop
Re: [thg-dev] i18n issues in TortoiseHg 2.0.x series
Andrei Polushin wrote: > 12.04.2011 23:00, Yuya Nishihara wrote: > > Andrei Polushin wrote: > >> When the translated text on the button is long, it looks cropped on both > >> sides, so its hard to read that button. > > > > Does it happen at all places? or on specific widget? > > Qt should construct the layout dynamically. > > Well, the word "cropped" was inappropriate. I should say "cramped", or > "visually unpleasant". > > I've uploaded 4 illustrations, using long text in English to demonstrate how > it looks like in translations. > > http://picasaweb.google.com/polushin/ThgButtons# > > btn-1 - Original buttons, normally looking. > btn-2 - Buttons with long text, looking rather bad. > btn-3 - with long text and highlighting, looking worse. > btn-4 - with long text + padding 2 spaces, OK again (preferred). Hmm, WindowsXP style tends to narrow side margins, though not sure why. https://bitbucket.org/yuja/thg-work/downloads/button-width.png I think inserting padding can affect rendering on another platform. Regards, Yuya -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ Tortoisehg-develop mailing list Tortoisehg-develop@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tortoisehg-develop
Re: [thg-dev] i18n issues in TortoiseHg 2.0.x series
12.04.2011 23:00, Yuya Nishihara wrote: > Andrei Polushin wrote: >> When the translated text on the button is long, it looks cropped on both >> sides, so its hard to read that button. > > Does it happen at all places? or on specific widget? > Qt should construct the layout dynamically. Well, the word "cropped" was inappropriate. I should say "cramped", or "visually unpleasant". I've uploaded 4 illustrations, using long text in English to demonstrate how it looks like in translations. http://picasaweb.google.com/polushin/ThgButtons# btn-1 - Original buttons, normally looking. btn-2 - Buttons with long text, looking rather bad. btn-3 - with long text and highlighting, looking worse. btn-4 - with long text + padding 2 spaces, OK again (preferred). Strictly speaking, this is not a bug. Just a matter of translation quality. -- Andrei Polushin -- Forrester Wave Report - Recovery time is now measured in hours and minutes not days. Key insights are discussed in the 2010 Forrester Wave Report as part of an in-depth evaluation of disaster recovery service providers. Forrester found the best-in-class provider in terms of services and vision. Read this report now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/ibm-webcastpromo ___ Tortoisehg-develop mailing list Tortoisehg-develop@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tortoisehg-develop
Re: [thg-dev] i18n issues in TortoiseHg 2.0.x series
Andrei Polushin wrote: > Certain common buttons, like "Cancel" and "Close" remain untranslated. Looks > like localizations of standard Qt strings are not part of the distribution. > Or am I doing something wrong? (I'm on 32-bit Windows.) It isn't possible yet. We'll need to override standard strings by gettext-ed strings manually, because we don't use Qt's built-in translation system. http://www.mail-archive.com/pyqt@riverbankcomputing.com/msg23896.html > When the translated text on the button is long, it looks cropped on both > sides, so its hard to read that button. Does it happen at all places? or on specific widget? Qt should construct the layout dynamically. Regards, Yuya -- Forrester Wave Report - Recovery time is now measured in hours and minutes not days. Key insights are discussed in the 2010 Forrester Wave Report as part of an in-depth evaluation of disaster recovery service providers. Forrester found the best-in-class provider in terms of services and vision. Read this report now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/ibm-webcastpromo ___ Tortoisehg-develop mailing list Tortoisehg-develop@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tortoisehg-develop
Re: [thg-dev] i18n issues in TortoiseHg 2.0.x series
On 04/11/2011 09:16 PM, Andrei Polushin wrote: > I've attempted a translation of TortoiseHg 2.0.3 into Russian and I > have to share some thoughts on this. > > Qt issues > = > > Certain common buttons, like "Cancel" and "Close" remain untranslated. > Looks like localizations of standard Qt strings are not part of the > distribution. Or am I doing something wrong? (I'm on 32-bit Windows.) This happens on pt_br too. I investigated this issue a bit, but couldn't find a simple fix (and it seems I also forgot to send a bug report...). > (...) > Language issues > === > > Certain words looks identical in English, but belong to different parts of > speech, so they require different translations. > > For instance, "Clean" could be (1) a verb, used in the text of an action > button, or (2) an adjective, like in "The revision status is Clean". > > The word "Commit" used in user/repository settings dialog could be > translated as noun, similar to English "The Process of Commiting". In most > other cases it is a verb, mostly used on buttons. > > This case are rare, so for now I suggest to manually review the grammatical > meaning of the two words above, and make a clear distinction for the > translators. The translation function now accepts a context specifier; see how "All" and "None" are handled by your translation software (or Launchpad). I'll send a patch shortly to add contexts for "Commit" and "Clean". Regards, Wagner -- Forrester Wave Report - Recovery time is now measured in hours and minutes not days. Key insights are discussed in the 2010 Forrester Wave Report as part of an in-depth evaluation of disaster recovery service providers. Forrester found the best-in-class provider in terms of services and vision. Read this report now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/ibm-webcastpromo ___ Tortoisehg-develop mailing list Tortoisehg-develop@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tortoisehg-develop
