Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch reboots of own accord?
Strange, since i use spotify on my squeezebox touch ive got the same problem. Sometimes, when i change a playlist in the spotify app, it locks up and after a few seconds reboots the touch, and then it starts playing that playlist. I've re-installed the latest 7.8 firmware (was using the edo mod), and even got a new power supply, but it seems that the problem stayed. Last couple of days ive removed the playlist before selecting a new one in spotify and until now it seems to work, but can also be luck ;) rduine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65382 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103374 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch reboots of own accord?
I also use spotify, think it's the unofficial plugin, but can't remember exactly from here. The behaviour was definitely not linked to any active spotify session for me. Occurred apparently randomly irrespective of what was currently playing or what had played last. I think one of the problems with diagnosing the watchdog forcing a reboot is that it can be triggered by any event that causes a timeout waiting for a response. The symptom may be the same but there could be any number of reasons. Good luck with your spotify problem! Learnincurve's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64807 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103374 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch reboots of own accord?
Learnincurve wrote: > I think one of the problems with diagnosing the watchdog forcing a > reboot is that it can be triggered by any event that causes a timeout > waiting for a response. Watchdog expiry won't happen waiting for a response from network - it will typically happen if code gets stuck in an execute loop or spends too much time processing without waiting/checking for an event. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103374 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch reboots of own accord?
Sorry to keep confusing this thread. The behaviour was slightly different after the forced kernel update, but the system did continue to lock up (I had to manually reboot). In the end I completely removed EDO and have now been running for a further two weeks without any lock-ups or reboots at all. The system seems completely stable. Sadly I am now limited to the 96k sample rate. I know that Triode is no longer around to support his excellent work, but does anyone know where to find his source or kernel config to see if an updated kernel can be made, that would be fully compatible with the later firmware? Of course I am still guessing at the reason for the lockups and crashes, but I have no other plugins running directly on the SBT. BR. --Marius-- Learnincurve's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64807 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103374 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch reboots of own accord?
I forced an update of the edo kernel, as a first step before factory resetting to standard FW. Low and behold: SBT has been running all weekend without a single crash. I had thought that edo automatically updated to the latest kernel at install (that option was selected in the config), but maybe that's not the case. Anyway. Fingers crossed, it seems to be working so far. BR. --Marius-- Learnincurve's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64807 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103374 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch reboots of own accord?
Supply is suspect if the FW is factory restored (button at the back ) and no modification or apps (EDO ,TT3, Clock screensaver etc ) . Afiak its designed to reboot when squeezplay crashes it must always run . It can possibly be the odd crash now and then and the Touch quietly reboots . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103374 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch reboots of own accord?
What about trying a different power supply? Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103374 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch reboots of own accord?
Mine SBT just rebooted itself as well. No EDO. Latest firmware as far as I know. LMS 7.9. This is the first time I have noticed it happen. R1200CL's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63832 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103374 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch reboots of own accord?
Bluedroog wrote: > Ive had this a few times in the past but recently it has become quite > frequent, most listening sessions are now interrupted by this. I will be > enjoying some tunes and usually when Im trying to change album or > something (I mostly stream Spotify on MSB.com) the Touch becomes > unresponsive for 10-15 seconds then the screen goes black, I get the EDO > unsupported message and then all is fine till the next time . > > Any ideas? Thanks. Sorry to revive an old thread. I am getting this as well. Seems to happen completely randomly, irrespective of what the SBT is doing (if anything). I have the unit set to blank the screen when asleep, but most mornings when I get up and most evenings when I come back from work, the unit has rebooted and the default (clock) screensaver is showing again. I have collected some dmesg output (at home, including the kernel dumps when the system goes doen, but haven't managed to identify any event that triggers the crash. As with Bluedroog, I am using the EDO plugin and the SBT firmware is the "Later" version (bundled with the 7.9 branch of LMS). When listening to BBC Radio I rarely get more than 1/2 an hour at-a-time between crashes. One suspect is the power supply. Perhaps it is not supplying enough voltage?? Does anyone know if the rail voltages are monitored by the touch? I couldn't find anything in /proc Can post the logs here this evening or tomorrow if it will help. BR. --Marius-- Learnincurve's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64807 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103374 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch reboots of own accord?
Learnincurve wrote: > I don't recognise any trigger event, I think the watchdog is hardware which resets the unit if the watchdog timer is not reset regulallry (i.e. to prevent lockup by a task) which is why there is s/w trace of what is happening. I still think trying the system using standard f/w is worthwhile - to definitively say EDO is or is not part of the problem. I think Touch firmware has been updated since EDO has been released and there is a small possibility there is an imcompatibility. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103374 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch reboots of own accord?
bpa wrote: > First - Always provide details on your setup so that user can compare. > > Before worrying about voltages - look to software. > > IIRC Touch has a safety "watchdog" which needs to be reset regularly > otherwise system will reboot. This may be happening. Since you are > using EDO you are not using a standard version of Touch. If you are > using USB DAC then it may be source of problem - I'd advise doing > testing with a clean version unmodified SBT and play ordinary files and > see if problem happens. > > If reboot problem doesn't happen with standard unmodified SBT then issue > is with EDO and USB device. > > More hard details always help > - for example - how is BBC playing Live/Listen Again - Touch Applet , > LMS plugin or MP3 stream ? > - have you ssh'ed into device and monitorfe dmesg while system is > running ? Hi Bpa and thanks for your reply, I'm using edo over s/pdif (analog output disabled), purely to allow higher sample rates. I have ssh'd in and tailed dmesg, allowing me to grab the dump when the system reboots and the ssh session dies. I don't recognise any trigger event, although there is quite a bit of dump information. I use your reworked BBC Triode plugin for BBC. Mostly R3 live DASH. Will try removing everything when I get time and running the touch without mods for a few days. Can you say anything about the kernel that is installed with EDO? Do you know if this is compatible with the r.7.8...something SBT firmware that is bundled with LMS 7.9.x BR. --Marius-- Learnincurve's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64807 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103374 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch reboots of own accord?
Ive had this a few times in the past but recently it has become quite frequent, most listening sessions are now interrupted by this. I will be enjoying some tunes and usually when Im trying to change album or something (I mostly stream Spotify on MSB.com) the Touch becomes unresponsive for 10-15 seconds then the screen goes black, I get the EDO unsupported message and then all is fine till the next time . Any ideas? Thanks. Bluedroog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40177 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103374 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch