[Trac] Re: Just installed and get blank 'available projects' page when fire up tracd
Did your run trac-admin /path/to/myproject initenv to create a trac project? You will also need to add that project ti the tracd command so it knows about it when it starts the server. tracd --port 8000 /path/to/myproject Hope this helps!! Drew On Nov 8, 2:58 pm, Daryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I am new to Trac and I am after some help please. I have just installed Trac on a windows platform using python 2.4 and then fired up tracd as per the install instructions TracOnWindows. The result that I get in the browser is a single blank page saying 'Available Projects' in a large font.The tracd console window shows no errors just a simple get command. Does anyone know what I may have done wrong? Seems similar tohttp://groups.google.com/group/trac-users/browse_thread/thread/4f66a2... but obviously a different platform Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] 0.11dev: API change on trunk
Hello, The context-refactoring branch is going on trunk today. If you're an early Trac 0.11dev adopter, the implications of this depend on whether you're using plugins or not. If not, the core Trac is still pretty solid and the update should not be problematic. But if you are using plugins, chances are that they're going to break in some ways or another. It should be relatively easy to adapt the 0.11dev plugins to the new API. For a general overview of the API changes that were discussed the last few months, see the following mail on trac-dev: http://groups.google.com/group/trac-dev/browse_frm/thread/e3d41dc0021814e0 For a summary of all the changes since 0.10, see: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/ApiChanges/0.11 (well, as most other parts of the documentation, there's still some room for improvements there). Now the good news is that not much work remains to be done before we'll be able to release a 0.11beta1, so that finally there might well be a 0.11 release this year ;-) -- Christian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: 0.11dev: API change on trunk
Christian Boos wrote: Hello, The context-refactoring branch is going on trunk today. Now the good news is that not much work remains to be done before we'll be able to release a 0.11beta1, so that finally there might well be a 0.11 release this year ;-) *cheers* Not much to add but kudos to everyone for the work that we all benefit from. A heart felt thank you from my dev team. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- begin:vcard fn:Dana V. Baldwin n:Baldwin;Dana org:Playnet Inc.;WWIIOL - Battleground Europe adr;dom:;;1901 Central Drive Suite 400;Bedford;Texas;76021 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Senior Producer x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.wwiionline.com version:2.1 end:vcard
[Trac] Re: 0.11dev: API change on trunk
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[Trac] Re: 0.11dev: API change on trunk
Now the good news is that not much work remains to be done before we'll be able to release a 0.11beta1, so that finally there might well be a 0.11 release this year ;-) -- Christian Not much to add but kudos to everyone for the work that we all benefit from. A heart felt thank you from my dev team. Add my voice to the above statement! I shall overcome my reluctance to add +1 spam to a public list as this is well-earned. +1 Cheers, Chris -- [Christopher Beck] [Senior Bioinformatician] [MHI/GQ PGx Centre] [https://www.pharmacogenomics.ca/pgx/] [+1.514.398.4400x00286#] [Nihil tam munitum quod non expugnari pecunia possit. - Cicero] signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[Trac] Ticket Before serving out a template?
Hi all- I'd like to record the time that a user accesses a particular page that is served up by trac. The user will give some inputs and submit, with a post request being handled by the same script. It seems like the best way to do this would be to store away the form token and start time and then when the submission takes place, take the difference in times for that token. I know I can access the form token after the template page has been served (at post time) but is there a way to grab the token before the template is served? Or alternatively, is there a way to save off the time using an onLoad in javascript? Thanks for your help. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Report Query Help
The following Query more or less gives me the output I desire: SELECT id AS ticket, c1.value AS Requirement, (CASE c2.value WHEN '1' THEN 'Yes' ELSE 'No' END) AS Complete, (CASE c5.value WHEN '1' THEN 'Yes' ELSE 'No' END) AS CCB, summary, component, changetime AS date, milestone AS Build, (CASE c3.value WHEN '0' THEN 'None' ELSE c3.value END) AS Design, (CASE c4.value WHEN '0' THEN 'None' ELSE c4.value END) AS Test FROM ticket t, ticket_custom c1, ticket_custom c2, ticket_custom c3, ticket_custom c4, ticket_custom c5 WHERE t.id = c1.ticket AND c1.name = 'requirement' AND t.id = c2.ticket AND c2.name = 'rqmt_complete' AND t.id = c3.ticket AND c3.name = 'design' AND t.id = c4.ticket AND c4.name = 'test' AND t.id = c5.ticket AND c5.name = 'ccb_app' The problem as I am sure you are aware is that tickets that do not have these fields do not show up. I have tried a number of variations of JOIN which shows the tickets with out entries but since there are a number of custom fields, I get a lot of redundant entries. Is there a way I can use a join but only get one row per ticket? In addition the design and test fields are links back into SVN for the documents. THese show up as text in the report. Is there a way I can modify the CSS or something to have them show up as links back into subversion sort of like source:/trunk/project/docs/test? Thank you --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] TracError: ClearSilver not installed (No module named neo_cgi)
Guys,
I know this issue has been dealt with exhaustively but the solutions
don't work in Unix. I and a Unix administrator have been trying for
days to get past this stupid ClearSilver problem. Despite installs of
all the pieces [that report themselves as having successfully
installed], and even an attempt to manually put the stupid neo_cgi.pyd
file where it is apparently supposed to be, we still cannot get past
this.
The installation instructions by themselves are really hard to
follow and confusing. We have gone back to scratch three times, trying
to find some magic combination that works.
I will skip about 40 sentences I want to add here but I just want
to know how to solve this. Please please anybody. Help.
/apps/trac-0.10.4:tracd --port 9000 /home/jrun/tracproject
Exception happened during processing of request from ('161.221.45.98',
2707)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 464, in
process_request_thread
self.finish_request(request, client_address)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 254, in
finish_request
self.RequestHandlerClass(request, client_address, self)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 522, in
__init__
self.handle()
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/BaseHTTPServer.py, line 316, in
handle
self.handle_one_request()
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/wsgi.py, line
174, in handle_one_request
gateway.run(self.server.application)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/wsgi.py, line
87, in run
response = application(self.environ, self._start_response)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/
standalone.py, line 88, in __call__
return self.application(environ, start_response)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line
363, in dispatch_request
env_paths)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line
456, in send_project_index
req.hdf = HDFWrapper(loadpaths)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/
clearsilver.py, line 135, in __init__
raise TracError, ClearSilver not installed (%s) % e
TracError: ClearSilver not installed (No module named neo_cgi)
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[Trac] trac and svn
Hello Is there any way to create a real mirror of trac and svn ? I just copied our trac and svn to new server, but getting following errors: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line 406, in dispatch_request dispatcher.dispatch(req) File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line 191, in dispatch chosen_handler = self._pre_process_request(req, chosen_handler) File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line 263, in _pre_process_request chosen_handler = f.pre_process_request(req, chosen_handler) File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/trac/versioncontrol/api.py, line 73, in pre_process_request self.get_repository(req.authname).sync() File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/trac/versioncontrol/api.py, line 104, in get_repository repos = self._connector.get_repository(rtype, rdir, authname) File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/trac/versioncontrol/svn_fs.py, line 234, in get_repository repos = SubversionRepository(dir, None, self.log) File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/trac/versioncontrol/svn_fs.py, line 267, in __init__ self.repos = repos.svn_repos_open(self.path, self.pool()) File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/libsvn/repos.py, line 47, in svn_repos_open return apply(_repos.svn_repos_open, args) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Ticket Before serving out a template?
You can also analyse the log files of your server: you'll get: * GET (the form) or POST (user data) info * Path part of the URL (to retrieve the project and the context: wiki, ticket, ...) * User login * Date As long as a user fills ticket in sequence (not working on two tickets simultaneously) it should work and you won't have to modify Trac code. HTH, Manu On 11/9/07, wjb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all- I'd like to record the time that a user accesses a particular page that is served up by trac. The user will give some inputs and submit, with a post request being handled by the same script. It seems like the best way to do this would be to store away the form token and start time and then when the submission takes place, take the difference in times for that token. I know I can access the form token after the template page has been served (at post time) but is there a way to grab the token before the template is served? Or alternatively, is there a way to save off the time using an onLoad in javascript? Thanks for your help. -- Manu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TracError: ClearSilver not installed (No module named neo_cgi)
Mario,
That's not encouraging. I'm about ready to report to my manager
that Trac--while promising--is not ready for prime time.
On Nov 9, 12:37 pm, Marcio Marchini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I hear you... I was once there where you are now. My notes say:
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line
406, in dispatch_request
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line
206, in dispatch
File
/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/clearsilver.py, line
135, in __init__
TracError: ClearSilver not installed (No module named neo_cgi)
We need the Python-clearsilver
bindings:http://lists.edgewall.com/archive/trac/2004-December/001338.htmlpoints
athttp://dag.wieers.com/rpm/packages/clearsilver/
Tried: easy_install clearsilver
It downloaded, compiled, configured, make'd installed clearsilver
(again??)
Tried to go to trac, error again:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line
406, in dispatch_request
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line
206, in dispatch
File
/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/clearsilver.py, line
135, in __init__
TracError: ClearSilver not installed
(/www/svn.foo.org/egg-cache/clearsilver-0.10.1-py2.5-linux-i686.egg-tmp/neo_cgi.so:
undefined symbol: NERR_PARSE)
So, that's where I am at. NERR_PARSE. I have tried Clearsilver from
sources, I have even crossed my fingers a couple of times. Still, no
light at the end of the tunnel. Well, there's the promise of a trac 0.11
release, but apart from that...
Let me know how it goes for you...
marcio
Tyrone Hed wrote:
Guys,
I know this issue has been dealt with exhaustively but the solutions
don't work in Unix. I and a Unix administrator have been trying for
days to get past this stupid ClearSilver problem. Despite installs of
all the pieces [that report themselves as having successfully
installed], and even an attempt to manually put the stupid neo_cgi.pyd
file where it is apparently supposed to be, we still cannot get past
this.
The installation instructions by themselves are really hard to
follow and confusing. We have gone back to scratch three times, trying
to find some magic combination that works.
I will skip about 40 sentences I want to add here but I just want
to know how to solve this. Please please anybody. Help.
/apps/trac-0.10.4:tracd --port 9000 /home/jrun/tracproject
Exception happened during processing of request from ('161.221.45.98',
2707)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 464, in
process_request_thread
self.finish_request(request, client_address)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 254, in
finish_request
self.RequestHandlerClass(request, client_address, self)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 522, in
__init__
self.handle()
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/BaseHTTPServer.py, line 316, in
handle
self.handle_one_request()
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/wsgi.py, line
174, in handle_one_request
gateway.run(self.server.application)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/wsgi.py, line
87, in run
response = application(self.environ, self._start_response)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/
standalone.py, line 88, in __call__
return self.application(environ, start_response)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line
363, in dispatch_request
env_paths)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line
456, in send_project_index
req.hdf = HDFWrapper(loadpaths)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/
clearsilver.py, line 135, in __init__
raise TracError, ClearSilver not installed (%s) % e
TracError: ClearSilver not installed (No module named neo_cgi)
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[Trac] Re: Few errors on installation... 1st Timer...
Manu, If the guy has been asked to install it on Unix, then he has no choice but to install it on Unix. You telling him not to install it on unix really is not possible. It's avoiding trying to solve his problem. When you tell him not to try to install it on unix--you're not answering his question are you? How easy would life be if we could all just decide not to answer tough questions. I myself have been working three days trying to install your TRAC. I have had the direct assistance of a unix admin with ten years Unix experience. So, I really feel that blaming the victim here--the user trying to achieve an install--is not appropriate. -Original Message- From: Emmanuel Blot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 12:46 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: Few errors on installation... 1st Timer... Telling him to get a new problem does not solve his EXISTING problem. If he has to install it on Unix--it's not because he's doing it for the fun of it, it's because he is REQUIRED to do so. Rather than just bailing on the guy, why not actually answer his question? Not sure how to understand your post: If you're not familiar with an environment, is it not easier to start with something you know? The learning curve of Unix is steep, indeed. Setting up a web server, dealing with dependencies - not mentioning CentOS... - is a huge step to start learning the Linux environment. I was not bailing on nor bashing, for sure. Cheers, Manu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Few errors on installation... 1st Timer...
Now that we want to put it on a Unix server I find it's almost impossible. YMMV: Two days ago, I tell a friend - who set up his own Trac installation on Windows a couple of months ago - to move to Linux. He was a bit reluctant to move to this platform, as he know very few about Unix. He actually managed to install Trac in a couple of hours, including some plugins. The stupid ClearSilver problem is impossible to fix. Look at the web and see how many sites run Trac 0.9.x or 0.10.x Most of them run Linux. Yes in some cases, installation is a PITA - for sure. Yes it is frustrating. This is one of the reasons why Clearsilver has been dropped in the upcoming 0.11. the decision to base Trac on Python makes it agony for those of us ... Now, I know the reply to this will probably be a muted F*** you. I'd rather say that it's not because you don't understand a peculiar point that it proves the technical solution is bad or that it would be easier using another technology/language/whatever. Nevertheless, we all know that Trac installation and support guides could still be improved a lot but it takes time (and interest in doing it, to speak frankly). OTOH, everyone can improve it as the documentation itself is a wiki. Cheers, Manu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TracError: ClearSilver not installed (No module named neo_cgi)
I hear you... I was once there where you are now. My notes say:
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line
406, in dispatch_request
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line
206, in dispatch
File
/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/clearsilver.py, line
135, in __init__
TracError: ClearSilver not installed (No module named neo_cgi)
We need the Python-clearsilver bindings:
http://lists.edgewall.com/archive/trac/2004-December/001338.html points at
http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/packages/clearsilver/
Tried: easy_install clearsilver
It downloaded, compiled, configured, make'd installed clearsilver
(again??)
Tried to go to trac, error again:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line
406, in dispatch_request
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line
206, in dispatch
File
/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/clearsilver.py, line
135, in __init__
TracError: ClearSilver not installed
(/www/svn.foo.org/egg-cache/clearsilver-0.10.1-py2.5-linux-i686.egg-tmp/neo_cgi.so:
undefined symbol: NERR_PARSE)
So, that's where I am at. NERR_PARSE. I have tried Clearsilver from
sources, I have even crossed my fingers a couple of times. Still, no
light at the end of the tunnel. Well, there's the promise of a trac 0.11
release, but apart from that...
Let me know how it goes for you...
marcio
Tyrone Hed wrote:
Guys,
I know this issue has been dealt with exhaustively but the solutions
don't work in Unix. I and a Unix administrator have been trying for
days to get past this stupid ClearSilver problem. Despite installs of
all the pieces [that report themselves as having successfully
installed], and even an attempt to manually put the stupid neo_cgi.pyd
file where it is apparently supposed to be, we still cannot get past
this.
The installation instructions by themselves are really hard to
follow and confusing. We have gone back to scratch three times, trying
to find some magic combination that works.
I will skip about 40 sentences I want to add here but I just want
to know how to solve this. Please please anybody. Help.
/apps/trac-0.10.4:tracd --port 9000 /home/jrun/tracproject
Exception happened during processing of request from ('161.221.45.98',
2707)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 464, in
process_request_thread
self.finish_request(request, client_address)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 254, in
finish_request
self.RequestHandlerClass(request, client_address, self)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 522, in
__init__
self.handle()
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/BaseHTTPServer.py, line 316, in
handle
self.handle_one_request()
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/wsgi.py, line
174, in handle_one_request
gateway.run(self.server.application)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/wsgi.py, line
87, in run
response = application(self.environ, self._start_response)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/
standalone.py, line 88, in __call__
return self.application(environ, start_response)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line
363, in dispatch_request
env_paths)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line
456, in send_project_index
req.hdf = HDFWrapper(loadpaths)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/
clearsilver.py, line 135, in __init__
raise TracError, ClearSilver not installed (%s) % e
TracError: ClearSilver not installed (No module named neo_cgi)
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[Trac] Re: Few errors on installation... 1st Timer...
Well, the decision to base Trac on Python makes it agony for those of us who want to do the install. I installed Trac on a windows box and loved Trac. However, that was a POC. Now that we want to put it on a Unix server I find it's almost impossible. The stupid ClearSilver problem is impossible to fix. You google the problem and get back the same non-working advice. Trac will succeed as well as the desktop Unix has succeded (Not!)--at this rate. Personally, if I were on your Trac team I would do anything I could to make the installation instructions unified and simpler. Instead, you get referred to 10 different websites, each with contradictory advice--and in the end--for Unix at least--it doesn't work! Now, I know the reply to this will probably be a muted F*** you. I accept that. I just find it amazing when tools that are purported to be ready for prime time are so impossible to install. On Oct 29, 3:07 am, Rainer Sokoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 05:10:01AM -, Devon wrote: Except I don't have a windows server. Not to be rude but this is the reason I still have not learned anything about *nix, anytime I ask questions people keep telling me to turn around and go back where I came from (Windows)... I want to learn but everytime I read a documentation on something for *nix it does not get very detailed (I'm assuming thats because there are so many versions of *nix)... Go to your local book store and ask for a book that targets on your flavour of *nix, or your Linux distribution. I've looked through google for sites that may help me (including the subversion.tigris.com) If you really have no idea about *nix, the this is a bad idea. Nearly all *nix related resources in the internet require at least a basic understanding of *nix. and end up getting more confused. Which at the same time I am afraid that I'll mess something up and not know how to fix it... You may start with a virtualized installation. There are vmware and co. (namely virtualbox). Install your favourite distro into a virtual machine (hint: use bridged networking, no NAT). You can make snapshots at any time, so it is easy to roll back any changes you made to your Linux. Regarding trac: Trac is pure python, so from a technical point of view, there are no big differences between a windows trac and a *nix trac. Just tell your OS where to find the shared libraries, and you are set. But ask yourself: What is your reason for trac? One great thing with trac is its interface to subversion, but it is perfectly OK to run a trac without subversion; you can also use trac as a wiki only - it all depends on your requirements. But trac without subversion is only half the fun :-) Rainer --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] TRAC difficult install = 2,760 Google hits
Well, this really explains it: EVERYBODY thinks it's impossible to install TRAC. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC difficult install = 2,760 Google hits
Well, trac easy install (with the quotes results in 10,500 hits :), so it is about 80% easy to install. Jason -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyrone Hed Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:12 PM To: Trac Users Subject: [Trac] TRAC difficult install = 2,760 Google hits Well, this really explains it: EVERYBODY thinks it's impossible to install TRAC. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Jason, Thank you! All the Trac-install issues that have had me tearing my hair out for three days just magically disappeared. Thank you so much! -Original Message- From: Jason Winnebeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:39 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC difficult install = 2,760 Google hits Well, trac easy install (with the quotes results in 10,500 hits :), so it is about 80% easy to install. Jason -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyrone Hed Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:12 PM To: Trac Users Subject: [Trac] TRAC difficult install = 2,760 Google hits Well, this really explains it: EVERYBODY thinks it's impossible to install TRAC. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC difficult install = 2,760 Google hits
On Nov 9, 2007 10:39 AM, Jason Winnebeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, trac easy install (with the quotes results in 10,500 hits :), so it is about 80% easy to install. I do not post often here -- I think this is my 3rd post since joining. Or something like that. Anyway, I installed Trac 0.10.3, and continue to use it. It was TRIVIAL to install. I honestly don't remember reading the installation instructions beyond the list of requirements. -- Samuel A. Falvo II --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Actually I hadn't read your thread at all until now. I was about to say that Trac is hard to install on Windows but not on Linux. Surprisingly it seems that you were trying to do this on UNIX. In some cases it can be easy, in Debian a simple apt-get install trac does most of what you need -- at least it installs all of the dependencies, which gets you through the hardest part. But, I do agree that Trac is hard to install, in general. It took me awhile to figure how to set up Apache + SSL + Trac + SVN. It also took me a long time to figure out how to properly install plugins and macros and how to test them outside of Apache. Jason -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyrone Hed Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:41 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Jason, Thank you! All the Trac-install issues that have had me tearing my hair out for three days just magically disappeared. Thank you so much! -Original Message- From: Jason Winnebeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:39 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC difficult install = 2,760 Google hits Well, trac easy install (with the quotes results in 10,500 hits :), so it is about 80% easy to install. Jason -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyrone Hed Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:12 PM To: Trac Users Subject: [Trac] TRAC difficult install = 2,760 Google hits Well, this really explains it: EVERYBODY thinks it's impossible to install TRAC. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Samuel, Were you doing a Windows install or a unix install? -Original Message- From: Samuel A. Falvo II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:43 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC difficult install = 2,760 Google hits On Nov 9, 2007 10:39 AM, Jason Winnebeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, trac easy install (with the quotes results in 10,500 hits :), so it is about 80% easy to install. I do not post often here -- I think this is my 3rd post since joining. Or something like that. Anyway, I installed Trac 0.10.3, and continue to use it. It was TRIVIAL to install. I honestly don't remember reading the installation instructions beyond the list of requirements. -- Samuel A. Falvo II --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
On Nov 9, 2007 10:51 AM, Tyrone Hed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Samuel, Were you doing a Windows install or a unix install? It was an install on Unix, actually. I haven't run Windows since 1995. :) -- Samuel A. Falvo II --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Jason, For me, the Windows install was easy and I liked Trac. When you try to install on Unix, NO MATTER WHAT you get this message about the neo_cgi not being found. Our unix Admin put it right where it was supposed to be found. Trac seems like a good project--I loved the Windows version--but if it's impossible to install, then nobody will see how good it can be. The directions are a bunch of with this version you use this version and then that version has its dependencies. It's a dependency nightmare. Everybody admits this ClearSilver part is the nightmare and that I should use 0.11 but I don't see that as being available. I have 0.10.4 and it exhibits all the problems I have mentioned. Does anybody know of any alternative to TRAC? I'm about ready to throw in the towel here. -Original Message- From: Jason Winnebeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:45 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Actually I hadn't read your thread at all until now. I was about to say that Trac is hard to install on Windows but not on Linux. Surprisingly it seems that you were trying to do this on UNIX. In some cases it can be easy, in Debian a simple apt-get install trac does most of what you need -- at least it installs all of the dependencies, which gets you through the hardest part. But, I do agree that Trac is hard to install, in general. It took me awhile to figure how to set up Apache + SSL + Trac + SVN. It also took me a long time to figure out how to properly install plugins and macros and how to test them outside of Apache. Jason -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyrone Hed Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:41 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Jason, Thank you! All the Trac-install issues that have had me tearing my hair out for three days just magically disappeared. Thank you so much! -Original Message- From: Jason Winnebeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:39 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC difficult install = 2,760 Google hits Well, trac easy install (with the quotes results in 10,500 hits :), so it is about 80% easy to install. Jason -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyrone Hed Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:12 PM To: Trac Users Subject: [Trac] TRAC difficult install = 2,760 Google hits Well, this really explains it: EVERYBODY thinks it's impossible to install TRAC. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Okay, Samuel, great. May I pose some questions? Unix: which flavor of unix? Python: which version of python? Trac: which version of trac? ClearSilver: which version of ClearSilver? Which DB? Telling me you did it on Unix without ANY details at all is akin to saying Naa Naa Na Na Nah. It's trumpeting your success without trying to allow others to also achieve that same success. -Original Message- From: Samuel A. Falvo II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:52 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC On Nov 9, 2007 10:51 AM, Tyrone Hed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Samuel, Were you doing a Windows install or a unix install? It was an install on Unix, actually. I haven't run Windows since 1995. :) -- Samuel A. Falvo II --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Tyrone, Did you see my message? Please try the command easy_install clearsilver and let me know if that works for you. You have to install easy_install first. Here's my notes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# pwd /usr/local/src [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# python ez_setup.py Downloading http://cheeseshop.python.org/packages/2.5/s/setuptools/setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Processing setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Copying setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg to /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages Adding setuptools 0.6c6 to easy-install.pth file Installing easy_install script to /usr/local/bin Installing easy_install-2.5 script to /usr/local/bin Installed /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c6 Finished processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c6 marcio Tyrone Hed wrote: Jason, For me, the Windows install was easy and I liked Trac. When you try to install on Unix, NO MATTER WHAT you get this message about the neo_cgi not being found. Our unix Admin put it right where it was supposed to be found. Trac seems like a good project--I loved the Windows version--but if it's impossible to install, then nobody will see how good it can be. The directions are a bunch of with this version you use this version and then that version has its dependencies. It's a dependency nightmare. Everybody admits this ClearSilver part is the nightmare and that I should use 0.11 but I don't see that as being available. I have 0.10.4 and it exhibits all the problems I have mentioned. Does anybody know of any alternative to TRAC? I'm about ready to throw in the towel here. -Original Message- From: Jason Winnebeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:45 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Actually I hadn't read your thread at all until now. I was about to say that Trac is hard to install on Windows but not on Linux. Surprisingly it seems that you were trying to do this on UNIX. In some cases it can be easy, in Debian a simple apt-get install trac does most of what you need -- at least it installs all of the dependencies, which gets you through the hardest part. But, I do agree that Trac is hard to install, in general. It took me awhile to figure how to set up Apache + SSL + Trac + SVN. It also took me a long time to figure out how to properly install plugins and macros and how to test them outside of Apache. Jason -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyrone Hed Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:41 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Jason, Thank you! All the Trac-install issues that have had me tearing my hair out for three days just magically disappeared. Thank you so much! -Original Message- From: Jason Winnebeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:39 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC difficult install = 2,760 Google hits Well, trac easy install (with the quotes results in 10,500 hits :), so it is about 80% easy to install. Jason -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyrone Hed Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:12 PM To: Trac Users Subject: [Trac] TRAC difficult install = 2,760 Google hits Well, this really explains it: EVERYBODY thinks it's impossible to install TRAC. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Mario, I'm game. Where do you find that easy_install? I looked in the Python directory and didn't see it. I looked also in the ClearSilver directory and also didn't see it? From where are you executing it? -Original Message- From: Marcio Marchini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:59 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Tyrone, Did you see my message? Please try the command easy_install clearsilver and let me know if that works for you. You have to install easy_install first. Here's my notes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# pwd /usr/local/src [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# python ez_setup.py Downloading http://cheeseshop.python.org/packages/2.5/s/setuptools/setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Processing setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Copying setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg to /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages Adding setuptools 0.6c6 to easy-install.pth file Installing easy_install script to /usr/local/bin Installing easy_install-2.5 script to /usr/local/bin Installed /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c6 Finished processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c6 marcio Tyrone Hed wrote: Jason, For me, the Windows install was easy and I liked Trac. When you try to install on Unix, NO MATTER WHAT you get this message about the neo_cgi not being found. Our unix Admin put it right where it was supposed to be found. Trac seems like a good project--I loved the Windows version--but if it's impossible to install, then nobody will see how good it can be. The directions are a bunch of with this version you use this version and then that version has its dependencies. It's a dependency nightmare. Everybody admits this ClearSilver part is the nightmare and that I should use 0.11 but I don't see that as being available. I have 0.10.4 and it exhibits all the problems I have mentioned. Does anybody know of any alternative to TRAC? I'm about ready to throw in the towel here. -Original Message- From: Jason Winnebeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:45 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Actually I hadn't read your thread at all until now. I was about to say that Trac is hard to install on Windows but not on Linux. Surprisingly it seems that you were trying to do this on UNIX. In some cases it can be easy, in Debian a simple apt-get install trac does most of what you need -- at least it installs all of the dependencies, which gets you through the hardest part. But, I do agree that Trac is hard to install, in general. It took me awhile to figure how to set up Apache + SSL + Trac + SVN. It also took me a long time to figure out how to properly install plugins and macros and how to test them outside of Apache. Jason -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyrone Hed Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:41 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Jason, Thank you! All the Trac-install issues that have had me tearing my hair out for three days just magically disappeared. Thank you so much! -Original Message- From: Jason Winnebeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:39 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC difficult install = 2,760 Google hits Well, trac easy install (with the quotes results in 10,500 hits :), so it is about 80% easy to install. Jason -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyrone Hed Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:12 PM To: Trac Users Subject: [Trac] TRAC difficult install = 2,760 Google hits Well, this really explains it: EVERYBODY thinks it's impossible to install TRAC. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: logout then trying to login with a new still shows the old user logged in - can't I log out?
Manu - Thanks, I'll check out the discussion in the ML archive --- also will check out the AccountManagerPlugin. Thanks a bunch. M. -Original Message- From: Emmanuel Blot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 2:04 pm Subject: [Trac] Re: logout then trying to login with a new still shows the old user logged in - can't I log out? So the question is -- how do I log out? I am running Trac standalone/server tracd currently. Either close your web browser (that is ALL your browser windows), use a browser with 'Clear HTTP authentication' menu such as Firefox, or install the AccountManagerPlugin. The way HTTP authentication works prevent the browser from logging out, there's nothing that can be done at Trac level as long as HTTP authentication is used. You can find details in the ML archive, this is one of the most discussed topic ;-) HTH, Manu Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: logout then trying to login with a new still shows the old user logged in - can't I log out?
So the question is -- how do I log out? I am running Trac standalone/server tracd currently. Either close your web browser (that is ALL your browser windows), use a browser with 'Clear HTTP authentication' menu such as Firefox, or install the AccountManagerPlugin. The way HTTP authentication works prevent the browser from logging out, there's nothing that can be done at Trac level as long as HTTP authentication is used. You can find details in the ML archive, this is one of the most discussed topic ;-) HTH, Manu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Hy Tyrone, The name is Marcio, not Mario :-) Are you familiar with Google? If you Google for easy_install you will find: http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/EasyInstall#installing-easy-install It says Download ez_setup.py . Get it and try my steps. Cheers, marcio Tyrone Hed wrote: Mario, I'm game. Where do you find that easy_install? I looked in the Python directory and didn't see it. I looked also in the ClearSilver directory and also didn't see it? From where are you executing it? -Original Message- From: Marcio Marchini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:59 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Tyrone, Did you see my message? Please try the command easy_install clearsilver and let me know if that works for you. You have to install easy_install first. Here's my notes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# pwd /usr/local/src [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# python ez_setup.py Downloading http://cheeseshop.python.org/packages/2.5/s/setuptools/setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Processing setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Copying setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg to /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages Adding setuptools 0.6c6 to easy-install.pth file Installing easy_install script to /usr/local/bin Installing easy_install-2.5 script to /usr/local/bin Installed /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c6 Finished processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c6 marcio Tyrone Hed wrote: Jason, For me, the Windows install was easy and I liked Trac. When you try to install on Unix, NO MATTER WHAT you get this message about the neo_cgi not being found. Our unix Admin put it right where it was supposed to be found. Trac seems like a good project--I loved the Windows version--but if it's impossible to install, then nobody will see how good it can be. The directions are a bunch of with this version you use this version and then that version has its dependencies. It's a dependency nightmare. Everybody admits this ClearSilver part is the nightmare and that I should use 0.11 but I don't see that as being available. I have 0.10.4 and it exhibits all the problems I have mentioned. Does anybody know of any alternative to TRAC? I'm about ready to throw in the towel here. -Original Message- From: Jason Winnebeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:45 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Actually I hadn't read your thread at all until now. I was about to say that Trac is hard to install on Windows but not on Linux. Surprisingly it seems that you were trying to do this on UNIX. In some cases it can be easy, in Debian a simple apt-get install trac does most of what you need -- at least it installs all of the dependencies, which gets you through the hardest part. But, I do agree that Trac is hard to install, in general. It took me awhile to figure how to set up Apache + SSL + Trac + SVN. It also took me a long time to figure out how to properly install plugins and macros and how to test them outside of Apache. Jason -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyrone Hed Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:41 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Jason, Thank you! All the Trac-install issues that have had me tearing my hair out for three days just magically disappeared. Thank you so much! -Original Message- From: Jason Winnebeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:39 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC difficult install = 2,760 Google hits Well, trac easy install (with the quotes results in 10,500 hits :), so it is about 80% easy to install. Jason -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyrone Hed Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:12 PM To: Trac Users Subject: [Trac] TRAC difficult install = 2,760 Google hits Well, this really explains it: EVERYBODY thinks it's impossible to install TRAC. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
For me, the Windows install was easy and I liked Trac. When you try to install on Unix, NO MATTER WHAT you get this message about the neo_cgi not being found. On *some* Unix installations, there are issues. On many other installs, it works smoothly. then nobody will see how good it can be. Hint: google powered by Trac and see the result count - and this does not show the number of intranet installations... Cheers, Manu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
On Nov 9, 2007 10:57 AM, Tyrone Hed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unix: which flavor of unix? Ubuntu derived, also GoboLinux 013. Python: which version of python? Python 2.4.3 here and at home. Trac: which version of trac? 0.10.3 ClearSilver: which version of ClearSilver? I don't recall, sorry. Any way to find out post-install? It was a version contemporary with when 0.10.3 was installed. Which DB? SQLite 3. Telling me you did it on Unix without ANY details at all is akin to saying Naa Naa Na Na Nah. It's trumpeting your success without trying to allow others to also achieve that same success. Well, just claiming that Trac is hard to install, and I'm giving up, without giving any indication of what the problem actually IS, or giving actual error messages to back the claims, is tantamount to saying, Trac sucks because I can't make it work, and by extension, everyone else who uses it also sucks, and oh by the way, nobody else is going to use it either, despite the hard evidence to the contrary. It's trumpeting failure without trying to allow others to attempt to help diagnose the problem. I should point out that in both of my cases, I'm letting Trac do its own web serving. I'm not using Apache. My web hosting provider, however, does have a Trac installed using Apache, but I don't have any knowledge of what he did to get it. It didn't take him that long though, only about one day from the time I requested it to the time I got a reply saying it was installed. I can only presume that it just worked for him too. He runs FreeBSD on his web server. He did have problems where Trac wouldn't respond after one of his automated update scripts had completed, but it turned out to not be an issue with Trac per se, but with SQLite. It would segfault whenever using something called FST2 or something like that. I'm not sure precisely what it was. My service provider removed that component, and it is working fine again. At any rate, I'm digressing. If neo_cgi.so isn't being found, then that means that your PYTHONPATH is not correct at the time the website is being hit. This is most often the case when you have multiple versions of Python installed. You might invoke python and it will bring up 2.4.3 at the command-line, but there is no guarantee that Apache will be doing the same. Make sure you're invoking the correct version of Python. Also, having knowledge of what the Python exception is saying will also help. Instead of complaining about Trac, maybe you should debug this at the Python level instead, as a quick Google search seems to suggest this is the case. Apologies of this information was provided from before, but I just haven't seen it -- I apparently do not get all messages on this mailing list. -- Samuel A. Falvo II --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Marcio, Please pardon me for getting your name wrong. I indeed know and use Google a lot. I have been googling this problem for days. I will go back to the well then. Thank you, Ty -Original Message- From: Marcio Marchini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 2:07 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Hy Tyrone, The name is Marcio, not Mario :-) Are you familiar with Google? If you Google for easy_install you will find: http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/EasyInstall#installing-easy-install It says Download ez_setup.py . Get it and try my steps. Cheers, marcio Tyrone Hed wrote: Mario, I'm game. Where do you find that easy_install? I looked in the Python directory and didn't see it. I looked also in the ClearSilver directory and also didn't see it? From where are you executing it? -Original Message- From: Marcio Marchini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:59 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Tyrone, Did you see my message? Please try the command easy_install clearsilver and let me know if that works for you. You have to install easy_install first. Here's my notes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# pwd /usr/local/src [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# python ez_setup.py Downloading http://cheeseshop.python.org/packages/2.5/s/setuptools/setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Processing setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Copying setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg to /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages Adding setuptools 0.6c6 to easy-install.pth file Installing easy_install script to /usr/local/bin Installing easy_install-2.5 script to /usr/local/bin Installed /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c6 Finished processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c6 marcio Tyrone Hed wrote: Jason, For me, the Windows install was easy and I liked Trac. When you try to install on Unix, NO MATTER WHAT you get this message about the neo_cgi not being found. Our unix Admin put it right where it was supposed to be found. Trac seems like a good project--I loved the Windows version--but if it's impossible to install, then nobody will see how good it can be. The directions are a bunch of with this version you use this version and then that version has its dependencies. It's a dependency nightmare. Everybody admits this ClearSilver part is the nightmare and that I should use 0.11 but I don't see that as being available. I have 0.10.4 and it exhibits all the problems I have mentioned. Does anybody know of any alternative to TRAC? I'm about ready to throw in the towel here. -Original Message- From: Jason Winnebeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:45 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Actually I hadn't read your thread at all until now. I was about to say that Trac is hard to install on Windows but not on Linux. Surprisingly it seems that you were trying to do this on UNIX. In some cases it can be easy, in Debian a simple apt-get install trac does most of what you need -- at least it installs all of the dependencies, which gets you through the hardest part. But, I do agree that Trac is hard to install, in general. It took me awhile to figure how to set up Apache + SSL + Trac + SVN. It also took me a long time to figure out how to properly install plugins and macros and how to test them outside of Apache. Jason -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyrone Hed Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:41 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Jason, Thank you! All the Trac-install issues that have had me tearing my hair out for three days just magically disappeared. Thank you so much! -Original Message- From: Jason Winnebeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:39 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC difficult install = 2,760 Google hits Well, trac easy install (with the quotes results in 10,500 hits :), so it is about 80% easy to install. Jason -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyrone Hed Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:12 PM To: Trac Users Subject: [Trac] TRAC difficult install = 2,760 Google hits Well, this really explains it: EVERYBODY thinks it's impossible to install TRAC. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en
[Trac] Re: TRAC
I'm game. Where do you find that easy_install? I looked in the Python directory and didn't see it. I looked also in the ClearSilver directory and also didn't see it? You need to install the setuptools. Either use your package manager, or download and execute http://peak.telecommunity.com/dist/ez_setup.py --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Samuel, Thank you for your reply. Alas, the one piece of information you didn't have is the exact one where my question lies: ClearSilver. As you said that you use Python at home. Sorry, I'm not a python user. Java, C,C++, COBOL, VB, .NET yet but not Python. For the record, I have been trying to load this to: AIX Python 2.5.1 Trac 0.10.4 SQLite 3.5.1 ClearSilver 0.9.14 -Original Message- From: Samuel A. Falvo II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 2:12 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC On Nov 9, 2007 10:57 AM, Tyrone Hed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unix: which flavor of unix? Ubuntu derived, also GoboLinux 013. Python: which version of python? Python 2.4.3 here and at home. Trac: which version of trac? 0.10.3 ClearSilver: which version of ClearSilver? I don't recall, sorry. Any way to find out post-install? It was a version contemporary with when 0.10.3 was installed. Which DB? SQLite 3. Telling me you did it on Unix without ANY details at all is akin to saying Naa Naa Na Na Nah. It's trumpeting your success without trying to allow others to also achieve that same success. Well, just claiming that Trac is hard to install, and I'm giving up, without giving any indication of what the problem actually IS, or giving actual error messages to back the claims, is tantamount to saying, Trac sucks because I can't make it work, and by extension, everyone else who uses it also sucks, and oh by the way, nobody else is going to use it either, despite the hard evidence to the contrary. It's trumpeting failure without trying to allow others to attempt to help diagnose the problem. I should point out that in both of my cases, I'm letting Trac do its own web serving. I'm not using Apache. My web hosting provider, however, does have a Trac installed using Apache, but I don't have any knowledge of what he did to get it. It didn't take him that long though, only about one day from the time I requested it to the time I got a reply saying it was installed. I can only presume that it just worked for him too. He runs FreeBSD on his web server. He did have problems where Trac wouldn't respond after one of his automated update scripts had completed, but it turned out to not be an issue with Trac per se, but with SQLite. It would segfault whenever using something called FST2 or something like that. I'm not sure precisely what it was. My service provider removed that component, and it is working fine again. At any rate, I'm digressing. If neo_cgi.so isn't being found, then that means that your PYTHONPATH is not correct at the time the website is being hit. This is most often the case when you have multiple versions of Python installed. You might invoke python and it will bring up 2.4.3 at the command-line, but there is no guarantee that Apache will be doing the same. Make sure you're invoking the correct version of Python. Also, having knowledge of what the Python exception is saying will also help. Instead of complaining about Trac, maybe you should debug this at the Python level instead, as a quick Google search seems to suggest this is the case. Apologies of this information was provided from before, but I just haven't seen it -- I apparently do not get all messages on this mailing list. -- Samuel A. Falvo II --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Your version of ClearSilver is different than mine. -Original Message- From: Emmanuel Blot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 2:14 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Unix: which flavor of unix? Python: which version of python? Trac: which version of trac? ClearSilver: which version of ClearSilver? Which DB? For example: Debian, Python 2.4, Trac 0.10.4, Clearsilver 0.10.3, Sqlite 3 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Marcio, I following that link and it, again, takes me to yet another third party bit of software. So, this really just expands the problems I have. Now, I'm even farther back, hoping that the many combinations of these tools work together. This seems tailor made to frustrate users. -Original Message- From: Marcio Marchini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 2:07 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Hy Tyrone, The name is Marcio, not Mario :-) Are you familiar with Google? If you Google for easy_install you will find: http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/EasyInstall#installing-easy-install It says Download ez_setup.py . Get it and try my steps. Cheers, marcio Tyrone Hed wrote: Mario, I'm game. Where do you find that easy_install? I looked in the Python directory and didn't see it. I looked also in the ClearSilver directory and also didn't see it? From where are you executing it? -Original Message- From: Marcio Marchini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:59 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Tyrone, Did you see my message? Please try the command easy_install clearsilver and let me know if that works for you. You have to install easy_install first. Here's my notes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# pwd /usr/local/src [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# python ez_setup.py Downloading http://cheeseshop.python.org/packages/2.5/s/setuptools/setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Processing setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Copying setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg to /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages Adding setuptools 0.6c6 to easy-install.pth file Installing easy_install script to /usr/local/bin Installing easy_install-2.5 script to /usr/local/bin Installed /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c6 Finished processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c6 marcio Tyrone Hed wrote: Jason, For me, the Windows install was easy and I liked Trac. When you try to install on Unix, NO MATTER WHAT you get this message about the neo_cgi not being found. Our unix Admin put it right where it was supposed to be found. Trac seems like a good project--I loved the Windows version--but if it's impossible to install, then nobody will see how good it can be. The directions are a bunch of with this version you use this version and then that version has its dependencies. It's a dependency nightmare. Everybody admits this ClearSilver part is the nightmare and that I should use 0.11 but I don't see that as being available. I have 0.10.4 and it exhibits all the problems I have mentioned. Does anybody know of any alternative to TRAC? I'm about ready to throw in the towel here. -Original Message- From: Jason Winnebeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:45 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Actually I hadn't read your thread at all until now. I was about to say that Trac is hard to install on Windows but not on Linux. Surprisingly it seems that you were trying to do this on UNIX. In some cases it can be easy, in Debian a simple apt-get install trac does most of what you need -- at least it installs all of the dependencies, which gets you through the hardest part. But, I do agree that Trac is hard to install, in general. It took me awhile to figure how to set up Apache + SSL + Trac + SVN. It also took me a long time to figure out how to properly install plugins and macros and how to test them outside of Apache. Jason -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyrone Hed Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:41 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Jason, Thank you! All the Trac-install issues that have had me tearing my hair out for three days just magically disappeared. Thank you so much! -Original Message- From: Jason Winnebeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:39 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC difficult install = 2,760 Google hits Well, trac easy install (with the quotes results in 10,500 hits :), so it is about 80% easy to install. Jason -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyrone Hed Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:12 PM To: Trac Users Subject: [Trac] TRAC difficult install = 2,760 Google hits Well, this really explains it: EVERYBODY thinks it's impossible to install TRAC. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at
[Trac] Re: TRAC
AIX Wow, *that* Unix ;-( I never had a worst experience with Unix flavors than with AIX (ok, HP-UX is also a PITA...) If you're really in trouble with Clearsilver, and not tired -yet- to fight with Trac installation, you may want to give a try to Trac 0.11. It has not been released yet, but you can get the source code - it's quite stable. Cheers, MAnu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Tyrone, You just download 1 Python source file, which is there as a hyperlink: http://peak.telecommunity.com/dist/ez_setup.py . You right-click on your web browser and choose Save. Then my steps, from teh dir where you saved the file above: [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# pwd /usr/local/src [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# python ez_setup.py Downloading http://cheeseshop.python.org/packages/2.5/s/setuptools/setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Processing setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Copying setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg to /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages Adding setuptools 0.6c6 to easy-install.pth file Installing easy_install script to /usr/local/bin Installing easy_install-2.5 script to /usr/local/bin Installed /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c6 Finished processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c6 marcio Tyrone Hed wrote: Marcio, I following that link and it, again, takes me to yet another third party bit of software. So, this really just expands the problems I have. Now, I'm even farther back, hoping that the many combinations of these tools work together. This seems tailor made to frustrate users. -Original Message- From: Marcio Marchini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 2:07 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Hy Tyrone, The name is Marcio, not Mario :-) Are you familiar with Google? If you Google for easy_install you will find: http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/EasyInstall#installing-easy-install It says Download ez_setup.py . Get it and try my steps. Cheers, marcio Tyrone Hed wrote: Mario, I'm game. Where do you find that easy_install? I looked in the Python directory and didn't see it. I looked also in the ClearSilver directory and also didn't see it? From where are you executing it? -Original Message- From: Marcio Marchini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:59 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Tyrone, Did you see my message? Please try the command easy_install clearsilver and let me know if that works for you. You have to install easy_install first. Here's my notes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# pwd /usr/local/src [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# python ez_setup.py Downloading http://cheeseshop.python.org/packages/2.5/s/setuptools/setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Processing setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Copying setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg to /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages Adding setuptools 0.6c6 to easy-install.pth file Installing easy_install script to /usr/local/bin Installing easy_install-2.5 script to /usr/local/bin Installed /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c6 Finished processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c6 marcio Tyrone Hed wrote: Jason, For me, the Windows install was easy and I liked Trac. When you try to install on Unix, NO MATTER WHAT you get this message about the neo_cgi not being found. Our unix Admin put it right where it was supposed to be found. Trac seems like a good project--I loved the Windows version--but if it's impossible to install, then nobody will see how good it can be. The directions are a bunch of with this version you use this version and then that version has its dependencies. It's a dependency nightmare. Everybody admits this ClearSilver part is the nightmare and that I should use 0.11 but I don't see that as being available. I have 0.10.4 and it exhibits all the problems I have mentioned. Does anybody know of any alternative to TRAC? I'm about ready to throw in the towel here. -Original Message- From: Jason Winnebeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:45 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Actually I hadn't read your thread at all until now. I was about to say that Trac is hard to install on Windows but not on Linux. Surprisingly it seems that you were trying to do this on UNIX. In some cases it can be easy, in Debian a simple apt-get install trac does most of what you need -- at least it installs all of the dependencies, which gets you through the hardest part. But, I do agree that Trac is hard to install, in general. It took me awhile to figure how to set up Apache + SSL + Trac + SVN. It also took me a long time to figure out how to properly install plugins and macros and how to test them outside of Apache. Jason -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyrone Hed Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:41 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Jason, Thank you! All the Trac-install issues that have had me tearing my hair out for three days just magically disappeared. Thank you so much! -Original Message-
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Marcio, I following that link and it, again, takes me to yet another third party bit of software. So, this really just expands the problems I have. Now, I'm even farther back, hoping that the many combinations of these tools work together. This seems tailor made to frustrate users. setuptools (ez_setup.py, easy_install, ...) is now the standard way to install Python packages. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Samuel,
To further reply to your comments:
I have only one version of Python loaded on the server. Python-2.5.1.
I also am not using apache, just the stand alone server tracd
When I telnet into the server and type: echo $PYTHONPATH it returns with
/apps/Python-2.5.1
That looks correct to me. After I verify that is available, I start the server
and hit the url and it comes back:
/apps/trac-0.10.4:tracd --port 9000 /home/jrun/tracproject
Exception happened during processing of request from ('161.221.45.98', 3755)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 464, in
process_request_thread
self.finish_request(request, client_address)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 254, in finish_request
self.RequestHandlerClass(request, client_address, self)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 522, in __init__
self.handle()
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/BaseHTTPServer.py, line 316, in handle
self.handle_one_request()
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/wsgi.py, line 174, in
handle_one_request
gateway.run(self.server.application)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/wsgi.py, line 87, in
run
response = application(self.environ, self._start_response)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/standalone.py, line
88, in __call__
return self.application(environ, start_response)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line 363, in
dispatch_request
env_paths)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line 456, in
send_project_index
req.hdf = HDFWrapper(loadpaths)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/clearsilver.py, line
135, in __init__
raise TracError, ClearSilver not installed (%s) % e
TracError: ClearSilver not installed (No module named neo_cgi)
-Original Message-
From: Samuel A. Falvo II [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Nov 9, 2007 2:12 PM
To: trac-users@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC
On Nov 9, 2007 10:57 AM, Tyrone Hed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unix: which flavor of unix?
Ubuntu derived, also GoboLinux 013.
Python: which version of python?
Python 2.4.3 here and at home.
Trac: which version of trac?
0.10.3
ClearSilver: which version of ClearSilver?
I don't recall, sorry. Any way to find out post-install? It was a
version contemporary with when 0.10.3 was installed.
Which DB?
SQLite 3.
Telling me you did it on Unix without ANY details at all is akin to saying
Naa Naa Na Na Nah. It's trumpeting your success without trying to allow
others to also achieve that same success.
Well, just claiming that Trac is hard to install, and I'm giving
up, without giving any indication of what the problem actually IS, or
giving actual error messages to back the claims, is tantamount to
saying, Trac sucks because I can't make it work, and by extension,
everyone else who uses it also sucks, and oh by the way, nobody else
is going to use it either, despite the hard evidence to the contrary.
It's trumpeting failure without trying to allow others to attempt to
help diagnose the problem.
I should point out that in both of my cases, I'm letting Trac do its
own web serving. I'm not using Apache. My web hosting provider,
however, does have a Trac installed using Apache, but I don't have any
knowledge of what he did to get it. It didn't take him that long
though, only about one day from the time I requested it to the time I
got a reply saying it was installed. I can only presume that it just
worked for him too. He runs FreeBSD on his web server. He did have
problems where Trac wouldn't respond after one of his automated update
scripts had completed, but it turned out to not be an issue with Trac
per se, but with SQLite. It would segfault whenever using something
called FST2 or something like that. I'm not sure precisely what it
was. My service provider removed that component, and it is working
fine again.
At any rate, I'm digressing. If neo_cgi.so isn't being found, then
that means that your PYTHONPATH is not correct at the time the website
is being hit. This is most often the case when you have multiple
versions of Python installed. You might invoke python and it will
bring up 2.4.3 at the command-line, but there is no guarantee that
Apache will be doing the same. Make sure you're invoking the correct
version of Python. Also, having knowledge of what the Python
exception is saying will also help.
Instead of complaining about Trac, maybe you should debug this at the
Python level instead, as a quick Google search seems to suggest this
is the case.
Apologies of this information was provided from before, but I just
haven't seen it -- I apparently do not get all messages on this
mailing list.
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Samuel A. Falvo II
[Trac] Re: TRAC
On Nov 9, 2007 11:17 AM, Tyrone Hed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Samuel, Thank you for your reply. Alas, the one piece of information you didn't have is the exact one where my question lies: ClearSilver. As you said that you use Python at home. Sorry, I'm not a python user. Java, C,C++, COBOL, VB, .NET yet but not Python. For the record, I have been trying to load this to: AIX Python 2.5.1 Trac 0.10.4 SQLite 3.5.1 ClearSilver 0.9.14 I am using ClearSilver 0.10.4. I finally determined this by typing man cgi_parse, and looking at the date of the man page entry. It was 11/14/2006, which corresponds with the 0.10.4 release. It is unfortunate that I am wholesale unable to determine what version is currently installed in any other way. -- Samuel A. Falvo II --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Dang, that seemed like it was going to work... /apps/Python-2.5.1:python ez_setup.py Downloading http://pypi.python.org/packages/2.5/s/setuptools/setuptools-0.6c7-py2.5.egg Traceback (most recent call last): File ez_setup.py, line 229, in module main(sys.argv[1:]) File ez_setup.py, line 161, in main egg = download_setuptools(version, delay=0) File ez_setup.py, line 143, in download_setuptools src = urllib2.urlopen(url) File /apps/Python-2.5.1/Lib/urllib2.py, line 121, in urlopen return _opener.open(url, data) File /apps/Python-2.5.1/Lib/urllib2.py, line 374, in open response = self._open(req, data) File /apps/Python-2.5.1/Lib/urllib2.py, line 392, in _open '_open', req) File /apps/Python-2.5.1/Lib/urllib2.py, line 353, in _call_chain result = func(*args) File /apps/Python-2.5.1/Lib/urllib2.py, line 1100, in http_open return self.do_open(httplib.HTTPConnection, req) File /apps/Python-2.5.1/Lib/urllib2.py, line 1075, in do_open raise URLError(err) urllib2.URLError: urlopen error (78, 'Connection timed out') /apps/Python-2.5.1: -Original Message- From: Marcio Marchini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 2:25 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Tyrone, You just download 1 Python source file, which is there as a hyperlink: http://peak.telecommunity.com/dist/ez_setup.py . You right-click on your web browser and choose Save. Then my steps, from teh dir where you saved the file above: [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# pwd /usr/local/src [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# python ez_setup.py Downloading http://cheeseshop.python.org/packages/2.5/s/setuptools/setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Processing setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Copying setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg to /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages Adding setuptools 0.6c6 to easy-install.pth file Installing easy_install script to /usr/local/bin Installing easy_install-2.5 script to /usr/local/bin Installed /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c6 Finished processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c6 marcio Tyrone Hed wrote: Marcio, I following that link and it, again, takes me to yet another third party bit of software. So, this really just expands the problems I have. Now, I'm even farther back, hoping that the many combinations of these tools work together. This seems tailor made to frustrate users. -Original Message- From: Marcio Marchini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 2:07 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Hy Tyrone, The name is Marcio, not Mario :-) Are you familiar with Google? If you Google for easy_install you will find: http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/EasyInstall#installing-easy-install It says Download ez_setup.py . Get it and try my steps. Cheers, marcio Tyrone Hed wrote: Mario, I'm game. Where do you find that easy_install? I looked in the Python directory and didn't see it. I looked also in the ClearSilver directory and also didn't see it? From where are you executing it? -Original Message- From: Marcio Marchini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:59 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Tyrone, Did you see my message? Please try the command easy_install clearsilver and let me know if that works for you. You have to install easy_install first. Here's my notes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# pwd /usr/local/src [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# python ez_setup.py Downloading http://cheeseshop.python.org/packages/2.5/s/setuptools/setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Processing setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Copying setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg to /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages Adding setuptools 0.6c6 to easy-install.pth file Installing easy_install script to /usr/local/bin Installing easy_install-2.5 script to /usr/local/bin Installed /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c6 Finished processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c6 marcio Tyrone Hed wrote: Jason, For me, the Windows install was easy and I liked Trac. When you try to install on Unix, NO MATTER WHAT you get this message about the neo_cgi not being found. Our unix Admin put it right where it was supposed to be found. Trac seems like a good project--I loved the Windows version--but if it's impossible to install, then nobody will see how good it can be. The directions are a bunch of with this version you use this version and then that version has its dependencies. It's a dependency nightmare. Everybody admits this ClearSilver part is the nightmare and that I should use 0.11 but I don't see that as being available. I have 0.10.4 and it exhibits all the problems I have mentioned. Does anybody know of any alternative to TRAC?
[Trac] Re: TRAC
I executed the ez_install.py and got this: /apps/Python-2.5.1:python ez_setup.py Downloading http://pypi.python.org/packages/2.5/s/setuptools/setuptools-0.6c7-py2.5.egg Traceback (most recent call last): File ez_setup.py, line 229, in module main(sys.argv[1:]) File ez_setup.py, line 161, in main egg = download_setuptools(version, delay=0) File ez_setup.py, line 143, in download_setuptools src = urllib2.urlopen(url) File /apps/Python-2.5.1/Lib/urllib2.py, line 121, in urlopen return _opener.open(url, data) File /apps/Python-2.5.1/Lib/urllib2.py, line 374, in open response = self._open(req, data) File /apps/Python-2.5.1/Lib/urllib2.py, line 392, in _open '_open', req) File /apps/Python-2.5.1/Lib/urllib2.py, line 353, in _call_chain result = func(*args) File /apps/Python-2.5.1/Lib/urllib2.py, line 1100, in http_open return self.do_open(httplib.HTTPConnection, req) File /apps/Python-2.5.1/Lib/urllib2.py, line 1075, in do_open raise URLError(err) urllib2.URLError: urlopen error (78, 'Connection timed out') /apps/Python-2.5.1: -Original Message- From: Emmanuel Blot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 2:16 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC I'm game. Where do you find that easy_install? I looked in the Python directory and didn't see it. I looked also in the ClearSilver directory and also didn't see it? You need to install the setuptools. Either use your package manager, or download and execute http://peak.telecommunity.com/dist/ez_setup.py --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
On Nov 9, 2007 11:27 AM, Tyrone Hed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I telnet into the server and type: echo $PYTHONPATH it returns with /apps/Python-2.5.1 I don't know how AIX installs software, but that positively looks wrong. I'm going to assume that /apps is where it deposits the whole distribution for Python. Underneath /apps/Python-2.5.1, there should be a directory called site-packages. PYTHONPATH should point in there. E.g.,: $ echo $PYTHONPATH /apps/Python-2.5.1/site-packages Maybe you should, for safety's sake, do this before running tracd: $ export PYTHONPATH=$PYTHONPATH:/apps/Python-2.5.1/site-packages (or the equivalent for your shell; the above works with Bash and Zsh). Give that a shot and see if that works. But, even so, that is disturbing to me; several Google searches suggests that /usr/local/lib/python2.5.1/site-packages is where things should go, even for AIX. Maybe it is a symbolic link? -- Samuel A. Falvo II --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Samuel, Sorry, I noticed a second point you made after I replied. You said that the PYTHONPATH should be this: $ echo $PYTHONPATH /apps/Python-2.5.1/site-packages In Python-2.5.1 shouldn't the path be: /apps/Python-2.5.1/Lib/site-packages ? [And really, how in the hell is the user supposed to know that PYTHONPATH should point somewhere inside the Python directory? In every other case of software that I've used--the path is to the first directory.] -Original Message- From: Samuel A. Falvo II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 2:36 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC On Nov 9, 2007 11:27 AM, Tyrone Hed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I telnet into the server and type: echo $PYTHONPATH it returns with /apps/Python-2.5.1 I don't know how AIX installs software, but that positively looks wrong. I'm going to assume that /apps is where it deposits the whole distribution for Python. Underneath /apps/Python-2.5.1, there should be a directory called site-packages. PYTHONPATH should point in there. E.g.,: $ echo $PYTHONPATH /apps/Python-2.5.1/site-packages Maybe you should, for safety's sake, do this before running tracd: $ export PYTHONPATH=$PYTHONPATH:/apps/Python-2.5.1/site-packages (or the equivalent for your shell; the above works with Bash and Zsh). Give that a shot and see if that works. But, even so, that is disturbing to me; several Google searches suggests that /usr/local/lib/python2.5.1/site-packages is where things should go, even for AIX. Maybe it is a symbolic link? -- Samuel A. Falvo II --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Ken, In the version of Python-2.5.1 that I have, the path is not /Python-2.5.1/site-packages it's /Python-2.5.1/Lib/site-packages --is this wrong? Also, everything I have seen refers to neo_cgi.pyd. This is the first mention of neo_cgi.so that I have seen. This is even more confusing. -Original Message- From: Ken Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 2:39 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC There is a note on the WIKI about python 2.5 related to neo_cgi. http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracInstall You can fix the problem with Python 2.5 (x_64) relatively easily because Clearsilver installed neo_cgi.so in the path /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages instead of /usr/lib64/python2.5/site-packages. To solve the problem, make a link in /usr/lib64/python2.5/site-packages with ln -s /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/neo_cgi.so neo_cgi.so or just move the file to the correct location. Maybe related? -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyrone Hed Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 2:22 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Marcio, I following that link and it, again, takes me to yet another third party bit of software. So, this really just expands the problems I have. Now, I'm even farther back, hoping that the many combinations of these tools work together. This seems tailor made to frustrate users. -Original Message- From: Marcio Marchini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 2:07 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Hy Tyrone, The name is Marcio, not Mario :-) Are you familiar with Google? If you Google for easy_install you will find: http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/EasyInstall#installing-easy-install It says Download ez_setup.py . Get it and try my steps. Cheers, marcio Tyrone Hed wrote: Mario, I'm game. Where do you find that easy_install? I looked in the Python directory and didn't see it. I looked also in the ClearSilver directory and also didn't see it? From where are you executing it? -Original Message- From: Marcio Marchini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:59 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Tyrone, Did you see my message? Please try the command easy_install clearsilver and let me know if that works for you. You have to install easy_install first. Here's my notes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# pwd /usr/local/src [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# python ez_setup.py Downloading http://cheeseshop.python.org/packages/2.5/s/setuptools/setuptools-0.6c6-py2. 5.egg Processing setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Copying setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg to /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages Adding setuptools 0.6c6 to easy-install.pth file Installing easy_install script to /usr/local/bin Installing easy_install-2.5 script to /usr/local/bin Installed /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c6 Finished processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c6 marcio Tyrone Hed wrote: Jason, For me, the Windows install was easy and I liked Trac. When you try to install on Unix, NO MATTER WHAT you get this message about the neo_cgi not being found. Our unix Admin put it right where it was supposed to be found. Trac seems like a good project--I loved the Windows version--but if it's impossible to install, then nobody will see how good it can be. The directions are a bunch of with this version you use this version and then that version has its dependencies. It's a dependency nightmare. Everybody admits this ClearSilver part is the nightmare and that I should use 0.11 but I don't see that as being available. I have 0.10.4 and it exhibits all the problems I have mentioned. Does anybody know of any alternative to TRAC? I'm about ready to throw in the towel here. -Original Message- From: Jason Winnebeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:45 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Actually I hadn't read your thread at all until now. I was about to say that Trac is hard to install on Windows but not on Linux. Surprisingly it seems that you were trying to do this on UNIX. In some cases it can be easy, in Debian a simple apt-get install trac does most of what you need -- at least it installs all of the dependencies, which gets you through the hardest part. But, I do agree that Trac is hard to install, in general. It took me awhile to figure how to set up Apache + SSL + Trac + SVN. It also took me a long time to figure out how to properly install plugins and macros and how to test them outside of Apache. Jason -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyrone Hed Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:41 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Jason,
[Trac] Re: TRAC
I changed the PYTHONPATH variable to point to
/apps/Python-2.5.1/Lib/site-packages, start the server and get this:
/apps/Python-2.5.1/Lib:export PYTHONPATH=/apps/Python-2.5.1/Lib/site-packages
/apps/Python-2.5.1/Lib:cd ..
/apps/Python-2.5.1:cd ../trac*
/apps/trac-0.10.4:tracd --port 9000 /home/jrun/tracproject
Exception happened during processing of request from ('161.221.45.98', 3892)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 464, in
process_request_thread
self.finish_request(request, client_address)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 254, in finish_request
self.RequestHandlerClass(request, client_address, self)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 522, in __init__
self.handle()
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/BaseHTTPServer.py, line 316, in handle
self.handle_one_request()
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/wsgi.py, line 174, in
handle_one_request
gateway.run(self.server.application)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/wsgi.py, line 87, in
run
response = application(self.environ, self._start_response)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/standalone.py, line
88, in __call__
return self.application(environ, start_response)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line 363, in
dispatch_request
env_paths)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line 456, in
send_project_index
req.hdf = HDFWrapper(loadpaths)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/clearsilver.py, line
135, in __init__
raise TracError, ClearSilver not installed (%s) % e
TracError: ClearSilver not installed (No module named neo_cgi)
SAME EXACT PROBLEM
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[Trac] Re: TRAC
On Nov 9, 2007 11:40 AM, Tyrone Hed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /apps/Python-2.5.1/Lib/site-packages ? I don't have 2.5.1, so maybe that's the case. [And really, how in the hell is the user supposed to know that PYTHONPATH should point somewhere inside the Python directory? In every other case of software that I've used--the path is to the first directory.] It makes perfect sense, and is perfectly UNIXy. The xxxPATH variables are used to point to a series of directories of where to find stuff. PATH is for shell executables. LD_LIBRARY_PATH is for .so files, etc. CLASSPATH for Java points to the root of the .class file hierarchy. To summarize, xxxPATH variables have never, nor will they ever, point to any superior containing directory. If there is a PATH variable that does this, then that is an aberration, not the norm. PYTHONPATH is no different. As far as the proper setting of PYTHONPATH, generally whatever tool you used to install it (it looks like AIX uses RPM) should have configured your server appropriately. If not, that is a failure of the package maintainer more than the tool itself. -- Samuel A. Falvo II --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
On Nov 9, 2007 11:47 AM, Tyrone Hed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TracError: ClearSilver not installed (No module named neo_cgi) SAME EXACT PROBLEM OK, calm down. If emotions dominate the discussion, then I won't bother offering my assistance. May I see the output of ls -la /apps/Python-2.5.1/Lib/site-packages and, if different, the directory of where neo_cgi sits? -- Samuel A. Falvo II --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Tyrone Hed wrote: ... File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line 456, in send_project_index req.hdf = HDFWrapper(loadpaths) File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/clearsilver.py, line 135, in __init__ raise TracError, ClearSilver not installed (%s) % e TracError: ClearSilver not installed (No module named neo_cgi) Can't you just modify /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/clearsilver.py to print sys.path just before it tries to import it (somewhere before line 135) and see where it's looking for neo_cgi? Or just add str(sys.path) to the trac error line? Looks like it's trying to be helpful here. -- Gary --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Begginer
Good morning, I have acceced Trac tool to project management and I got interested on the project. Though ,I don`t have any experience in Phyton, I`m a Java programmer. I have never programmed using CGI and I use to structure my programs in MVC. I would like to ask if anyone of the group could tell me how I can start using this tool in my host server. I tried to follow the instructions on the web page ttp://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracGuide , but I could`t make it. I have already installed Apache that points to http://localhost/trac. but it doens`t look for the .cgi. Can anyone help me with this problem? Does anyone know if there is any brazilian discussion group about it? Thanks, Rodrigo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
With pleasure: /apps/trac-0.10.4:ls -la /apps/Python-2.5.1/Lib/site-packages total 384 drwxr-xr-x 2 jrun storedev256 Nov 08 16:20 . drwxr-xr-x 43 jrun storedev 16384 Nov 09 14:29 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 jrun storedev119 Mar 31 2000 README -rw-r- 1 jrun staff173568 Nov 08 16:20 neo_cgi.pyd /apps/trac-0.10.4: -Original Message- From: Samuel A. Falvo II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 2:53 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC On Nov 9, 2007 11:47 AM, Tyrone Hed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TracError: ClearSilver not installed (No module named neo_cgi) SAME EXACT PROBLEM OK, calm down. If emotions dominate the discussion, then I won't bother offering my assistance. May I see the output of ls -la /apps/Python-2.5.1/Lib/site-packages and, if different, the directory of where neo_cgi sits? -- Samuel A. Falvo II --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Begginer
Rodrigo, Install the Windows version if at all possible. The Unix version is a killer. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 2:55 PM To: Trac Users trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Begginer Good morning, I have acceced Trac tool to project management and I got interested on the project. Though ,I don`t have any experience in Phyton, I`m a Java programmer. I have never programmed using CGI and I use to structure my programs in MVC. I would like to ask if anyone of the group could tell me how I can start using this tool in my host server. I tried to follow the instructions on the web page ttp://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracGuide , but I could`t make it. I have already installed Apache that points to http://localhost/trac. but it doens`t look for the .cgi. Can anyone help me with this problem? Does anyone know if there is any brazilian discussion group about it? Thanks, Rodrigo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
On Nov 9, 2007 11:56 AM, Tyrone Hed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With pleasure: /apps/trac-0.10.4:ls -la /apps/Python-2.5.1/Lib/site-packages total 384 drwxr-xr-x 2 jrun storedev256 Nov 08 16:20 . drwxr-xr-x 43 jrun storedev 16384 Nov 09 14:29 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 jrun storedev119 Mar 31 2000 README -rw-r- 1 jrun staff173568 Nov 08 16:20 neo_cgi.pyd /apps/trac-0.10.4: I'm interested where that neo_cgi.pyd came from. On my installation, I don't have that; I have neo_cgi.so. So, I'd have to concur with Python in this case -- the Python binding to ClearSilver is *not* installed. -- Samuel A. Falvo II --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
There is a note on the WIKI about python 2.5 related to neo_cgi. http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracInstall You can fix the problem with Python 2.5 (x_64) relatively easily because Clearsilver installed neo_cgi.so in the path /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages instead of /usr/lib64/python2.5/site-packages. To solve the problem, make a link in /usr/lib64/python2.5/site-packages with ln -s /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/neo_cgi.so neo_cgi.so or just move the file to the correct location. Maybe related? -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyrone Hed Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 2:22 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Marcio, I following that link and it, again, takes me to yet another third party bit of software. So, this really just expands the problems I have. Now, I'm even farther back, hoping that the many combinations of these tools work together. This seems tailor made to frustrate users. -Original Message- From: Marcio Marchini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 2:07 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Hy Tyrone, The name is Marcio, not Mario :-) Are you familiar with Google? If you Google for easy_install you will find: http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/EasyInstall#installing-easy-install It says Download ez_setup.py . Get it and try my steps. Cheers, marcio Tyrone Hed wrote: Mario, I'm game. Where do you find that easy_install? I looked in the Python directory and didn't see it. I looked also in the ClearSilver directory and also didn't see it? From where are you executing it? -Original Message- From: Marcio Marchini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:59 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Tyrone, Did you see my message? Please try the command easy_install clearsilver and let me know if that works for you. You have to install easy_install first. Here's my notes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# pwd /usr/local/src [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# python ez_setup.py Downloading http://cheeseshop.python.org/packages/2.5/s/setuptools/setuptools-0.6c6-py2. 5.egg Processing setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Copying setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg to /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages Adding setuptools 0.6c6 to easy-install.pth file Installing easy_install script to /usr/local/bin Installing easy_install-2.5 script to /usr/local/bin Installed /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c6-py2.5.egg Processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c6 Finished processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c6 marcio Tyrone Hed wrote: Jason, For me, the Windows install was easy and I liked Trac. When you try to install on Unix, NO MATTER WHAT you get this message about the neo_cgi not being found. Our unix Admin put it right where it was supposed to be found. Trac seems like a good project--I loved the Windows version--but if it's impossible to install, then nobody will see how good it can be. The directions are a bunch of with this version you use this version and then that version has its dependencies. It's a dependency nightmare. Everybody admits this ClearSilver part is the nightmare and that I should use 0.11 but I don't see that as being available. I have 0.10.4 and it exhibits all the problems I have mentioned. Does anybody know of any alternative to TRAC? I'm about ready to throw in the towel here. -Original Message- From: Jason Winnebeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:45 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Actually I hadn't read your thread at all until now. I was about to say that Trac is hard to install on Windows but not on Linux. Surprisingly it seems that you were trying to do this on UNIX. In some cases it can be easy, in Debian a simple apt-get install trac does most of what you need -- at least it installs all of the dependencies, which gets you through the hardest part. But, I do agree that Trac is hard to install, in general. It took me awhile to figure how to set up Apache + SSL + Trac + SVN. It also took me a long time to figure out how to properly install plugins and macros and how to test them outside of Apache. Jason -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyrone Hed Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:41 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Jason, Thank you! All the Trac-install issues that have had me tearing my hair out for three days just magically disappeared. Thank you so much! -Original Message- From: Jason Winnebeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 1:39 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC difficult install = 2,760 Google hits Well, trac easy install (with the quotes results in 10,500 hits :), so it is about 80% easy to
[Trac] Re: TRAC
/apps is a symbolic link. All of our apps are successfully installed there. -Original Message- From: Samuel A. Falvo II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 2:36 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC On Nov 9, 2007 11:27 AM, Tyrone Hed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I telnet into the server and type: echo $PYTHONPATH it returns with /apps/Python-2.5.1 I don't know how AIX installs software, but that positively looks wrong. I'm going to assume that /apps is where it deposits the whole distribution for Python. Underneath /apps/Python-2.5.1, there should be a directory called site-packages. PYTHONPATH should point in there. E.g.,: $ echo $PYTHONPATH /apps/Python-2.5.1/site-packages Maybe you should, for safety's sake, do this before running tracd: $ export PYTHONPATH=$PYTHONPATH:/apps/Python-2.5.1/site-packages (or the equivalent for your shell; the above works with Bash and Zsh). Give that a shot and see if that works. But, even so, that is disturbing to me; several Google searches suggests that /usr/local/lib/python2.5.1/site-packages is where things should go, even for AIX. Maybe it is a symbolic link? -- Samuel A. Falvo II --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Gary, I attempted to do what you suggested but, apparently, I'm not up on the syntax of a Python script. I vi-edited the file and when I tried to run it got this: try: ^ IndentationError: unindent does not match any outer indentation level /apps/trac-0.10.4: The try is right after the line you asked me to insert. I'm not really sure what is meant by an indentation level. Does Python care about white space? -Original Message- From: Gary Oberbrunner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 2:54 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Tyrone Hed wrote: ... File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line 456, in send_project_index req.hdf = HDFWrapper(loadpaths) File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/clearsilver.py, line 135, in __init__ raise TracError, ClearSilver not installed (%s) % e TracError: ClearSilver not installed (No module named neo_cgi) Can't you just modify /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/clearsilver.py to print sys.path just before it tries to import it (somewhere before line 135) and see where it's looking for neo_cgi? Or just add str(sys.path) to the trac error line? Looks like it's trying to be helpful here. -- Gary --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Samuel, The reason that file is there is because that's what ALL the instructions on how to fix this say to do. What is an .so file? Is that a binary? Is that a complication product? Can I just copy it from somewhere else? -Original Message- From: Samuel A. Falvo II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 3:06 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC On Nov 9, 2007 11:56 AM, Tyrone Hed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With pleasure: /apps/trac-0.10.4:ls -la /apps/Python-2.5.1/Lib/site-packages total 384 drwxr-xr-x 2 jrun storedev256 Nov 08 16:20 . drwxr-xr-x 43 jrun storedev 16384 Nov 09 14:29 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 jrun storedev119 Mar 31 2000 README -rw-r- 1 jrun staff173568 Nov 08 16:20 neo_cgi.pyd /apps/trac-0.10.4: I'm interested where that neo_cgi.pyd came from. On my installation, I don't have that; I have neo_cgi.so. So, I'd have to concur with Python in this case -- the Python binding to ClearSilver is *not* installed. -- Samuel A. Falvo II --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
On Nov 9, 2007 12:09 PM, Tyrone Hed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Samuel, The reason that file is there is because that's what ALL the instructions on how to fix this say to do. What is an .so file? Is that a binary? Is that a complication product? Can I just copy it from somewhere else? Yes; in Unix, a .so file is analogous to a Windows .DLL file. If there is a neo_cgi.so file elsewhere in the system it *ought* to be safe to just copy it into this directory. -- Samuel A. Falvo II --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Begginer
Rodrigo, Install the Windows version if at all possible. The Unix version is a killer. Ok, now please stop. We all understood you have issues installing Trac on a AIX system. *nix systems does not sum up in AIX. The issues you encounter, although real, do not validate or invalidate a system. I hope we'll find a workaround so that you can install Trac on your AIX system. You may say you would not recommend installing Trac on AIX, but I don't think you can generalize your own experience as installing Trac on *nix is more difficult than it is on Windows. It may even be easier, depending on the distribution you use, as with a decent package manager, it can be as simple as installing Trac and the package manager will install all the dependencies. Cheers, Manu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Begginer
I have already installed Apache that points to http://localhost/trac. but it doens`t look for the .cgi. Can anyone help me with this problem? I would recommend you use mod_python (TracModPython) except if you have some specific requirements. CGI method gives really bad performances. Please post the relevant section of your apache configuration file, along with the command you used to create your Trac environment - the one with trac-admin. Cheers, Manu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC difficult install = 2,760 Google hits
On Nov 9, 2007 1:11 PM, Tyrone Hed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, this really explains it: EVERYBODY thinks it's impossible to install TRAC. I had no trouble setting it up on ubuntu. There were quite a few steps required in my case, but being an svn *and* python newcomer I was surprised it took less than one day. I think the docs could use a little more detail on the way python packages work (even though that information can be found elsewhere too). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Tyrone Hed wrote: Gary, I attempted to do what you suggested but, apparently, I'm not up on the syntax of a Python script. I vi-edited the file and when I tried to run it got this: try: ^ IndentationError: unindent does not match any outer indentation level /apps/trac-0.10.4: Yes, python is sensitive to whitespace. You should not have touched the above line. Try this: except ImportError, e: raise TracError, ClearSilver not installed (%s; sys.path is %s) % (e, str(sys.path)) That last line is ALL ONE LINE starting with raise and ending with )). Ignore the email line wrapping. In other words, just edit the raise line til it looks like mine above. Keep any initial whitespace the same. Then restart the server and try it. It'll print where it's looking for the neo_cgi module, then you can take the next step which is to find out where it really is and why it's not found where python is looking. -- Gary --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Gary,
I was able to fix the indent issue. I added the message you suggested but
sys was not defined on my AIX system.
try:
import neo_cgi
# The following line is needed so that ClearSilver can be loaded
when
# we are being run in multiple interpreters under mod_python
neo_cgi.update()
import neo_util
self.hdf = neo_util.HDF()
except ImportError, e:
raise TracError, ClearSilver not installed (%s; sys.path is %s) %
(e, str(sys.path))
self['hdf.loadpaths'] = loadpaths
def __getattr__(self, name):
clearsilver.py 348 lines, 10888 characters
/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web:cd /apps/trac*
/apps/trac-0.10.4:tracd --port 9000 /home/jrun/tracproject
Exception happened during processing of request from ('161.221.45.98', 4457)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 464, in
process_request_thread
self.finish_request(request, client_address)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 254, in finish_request
self.RequestHandlerClass(request, client_address, self)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 522, in __init__
self.handle()
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/BaseHTTPServer.py, line 316, in handle
self.handle_one_request()
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/wsgi.py, line 174, in
handle_one_request
gateway.run(self.server.application)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/wsgi.py, line 87, in
run
response = application(self.environ, self._start_response)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/standalone.py, line
88, in __call__
return self.application(environ, start_response)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line 363, in
dispatch_request
env_paths)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line 456, in
send_project_index
req.hdf = HDFWrapper(loadpaths)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/clearsilver.py, line
134, in __init__
raise TracError, ClearSilver not installed (%s; sys.path is %s) % (e,
str(sys.path))
NameError: global name 'sys' is not defined
-Original Message-
From: Gary Oberbrunner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Nov 9, 2007 3:39 PM
To: trac-users@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC
Tyrone Hed wrote:
Gary,
I attempted to do what you suggested but, apparently, I'm not up on the
syntax of a Python script. I vi-edited the file and when I tried to run it
got this:
try:
^
IndentationError: unindent does not match any outer indentation level
/apps/trac-0.10.4:
Yes, python is sensitive to whitespace. You should not have touched the above
line.
Try this:
except ImportError, e:
raise TracError, ClearSilver not installed (%s; sys.path is %s)
% (e, str(sys.path))
That last line is ALL ONE LINE starting with raise and ending with )). Ignore
the email line wrapping. In other words, just edit the raise line til it
looks like mine above. Keep any initial whitespace the same.
Then restart the server and try it. It'll print where it's looking for the
neo_cgi module, then you can take the next step which is to find out where it
really is and why it's not found where python is looking.
--
Gary
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[Trac] Re: Begginer
I am not attempting to use Apache. I am running under tracd alone. And, frankly, telling me that yet another variant should be tried does not inspire confidence. I have to wonder: is this the way you guys planned this to be? With guess-which-version works with your stuff? -Original Message- From: Emmanuel Blot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 3:30 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: Begginer I have already installed Apache that points to http://localhost/trac. but it doens`t look for the .cgi. Can anyone help me with this problem? I would recommend you use mod_python (TracModPython) except if you have some specific requirements. CGI method gives really bad performances. Please post the relevant section of your apache configuration file, along with the command you used to create your Trac environment - the one with trac-admin. Cheers, Manu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
On Nov 9, 2007 12:34 PM, Tyrone Hed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Samuel, Well, thank you anyways. Does anyone know an alternative to TRAC? Something that is not written in Python? SourceForge (the product, not the site). -- Samuel A. Falvo II --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Trac installer for Linux
Hi, One of the things that people tend to complain about Trac is that 'it is very difficult to install'. Well, not any more :) We have created an easy to use installer for Trac. It installs and configures a number of components: Apache, SQLite, Subversion, Python and, of course, Trac. Currently we have a Linux version, with Windows, OSX and Solaris planned. It's open source, distributed under the Apache 2.0 license. Our goal is to make open source applications as easy to use as possible (we have installers for other projects like Liferay, Drupal, WordPress, etc.) This is a first cut of the stack, and there are some known issues with this release. In particular, although easy_install is installed, it won't work when installing plugins. We expect to fix this for the next release (next week) Below you can find a link to download a first take of the installer. If this is something that interests you, please check it out and let us know what you think. We plan on updating new versions based on users' feedback. http://www.bitnami.org/stack/trac Best regards, Antonio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Just double-checking: -rw-r- 1 jrun staff173568 Nov 08 16:20 neo_cgi.pyd Which user are you running tracd with? Is there some specific reason why this file is not world-readable? Cheers, Manu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Trac installer for Linux
Antonio, I have used your installer for Windows and loved it. I have been pulling my hair out trying unsuccessfully to install this on AIX. AIX and Linux are pretty far apart. Are you suggesting that this Linux installer might work on AIX? -Original Message- From: Antonio Santos Velasco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 3:59 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Trac installer for Linux Hi, One of the things that people tend to complain about Trac is that 'it is very difficult to install'. Well, not any more :) We have created an easy to use installer for Trac. It installs and configures a number of components: Apache, SQLite, Subversion, Python and, of course, Trac. Currently we have a Linux version, with Windows, OSX and Solaris planned. It's open source, distributed under the Apache 2.0 license. Our goal is to make open source applications as easy to use as possible (we have installers for other projects like Liferay, Drupal, WordPress, etc.) This is a first cut of the stack, and there are some known issues with this release. In particular, although easy_install is installed, it won't work when installing plugins. We expect to fix this for the next release (next week) Below you can find a link to download a first take of the installer. If this is something that interests you, please check it out and let us know what you think. We plan on updating new versions based on users' feedback. http://www.bitnami.org/stack/trac Best regards, Antonio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
I'm asking our Unix admin to fix that and see if that's the problem. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Emmanuel Blot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 4:04 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Just double-checking: -rw-r- 1 jrun staff173568 Nov 08 16:20 neo_cgi.pyd Which user are you running tracd with? Is there some specific reason why this file is not world-readable? Cheers, Manu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
NameError: global name 'sys' is not defined Add import sys @ the top of the file or right before the raise line, with the same indentation. Cheers, Manu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
That worked for 'sys'. This is the output generated:
This is the path: (I have added CRLF between commas so they are readable)
'/usr/local/bin',
'/apps/Python-2.5.1/Lib/site-packages',
'/usr/local/lib/python25.zip',
'/usr/local/lib/python2.5',
'/usr/local/lib/python2.5/plat-aix5',
'/usr/local/lib/python2.5/lib-tk',
'/usr/local/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload',
'/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages'])
/apps/trac-0.10.4:tracd --port 9000 /home/jrun/tracproject
Exception happened during processing of request from ('161.221.45.98', 4636)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 464, in
process_request_thread
self.finish_request(request, client_address)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 254, in finish_request
self.RequestHandlerClass(request, client_address, self)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 522, in __init__
self.handle()
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/BaseHTTPServer.py, line 316, in handle
self.handle_one_request()
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/wsgi.py, line 174, in
handle_one_request
gateway.run(self.server.application)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/wsgi.py, line 87, in
run
response = application(self.environ, self._start_response)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/standalone.py, line
88, in __call__
return self.application(environ, start_response)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line 363, in
dispatch_request
env_paths)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line 456, in
send_project_index
req.hdf = HDFWrapper(loadpaths)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/clearsilver.py, line
136, in __init__
raise TracError, ClearSilver not installed (%s; sys.path is %s) % (e,
str(sys.path))
TracError: ClearSilver not installed (No module named neo_cgi; sys.path is
['/usr/local/bin', '/apps/Python-2.5.1/Lib/site-pa
ckages', '/usr/local/lib/python25.zip', '/usr/local/lib/python2.5',
'/usr/local/lib/python2.5/plat-aix5', '/usr/local/lib/pyt
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[Trac] Re: TRAC
Samuel A. Falvo II wrote: On Nov 9, 2007 11:17 AM, Tyrone Hed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Samuel, Thank you for your reply. Alas, the one piece of information you didn't have is the exact one where my question lies: ClearSilver. As you said that you use Python at home. Sorry, I'm not a python user. Java, C,C++, COBOL, VB, .NET yet but not Python. For the record, I have been trying to load this to: AIX Python 2.5.1 Trac 0.10.4 SQLite 3.5.1 ClearSilver 0.9.14 I am using ClearSilver 0.10.4. I finally determined this by typing man cgi_parse, and looking at the date of the man page entry. It was 11/14/2006, which corresponds with the 0.10.4 release. It is unfortunate that I am wholesale unable to determine what version is currently installed in any other way. Worth noting that 0.11 will display the version of all used components on the About page and in every error traceback. --Noah signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Manu, Sorry, I'm getting confused here. I have three separate people telling me to do three or four different things. Isn't there any easier way? I mean, is this normal to have to install 6 or 7 different tools to get this to install? And then each of those tools may have their own dependencies? Is this the way you guys want this to work? I'm just baffled that it could be this complex, with the need to install so many dependencies. Wouldn't it make more sense to just give one UNIT that the users can install? How would you ever even test TRAC with so many variants? -Original Message- From: Emmanuel Blot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 4:20 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC urllib2.URLError: urlopen error (78, 'Connection timed out') I guess you run this from a LAN behind a HTTP proxy, don't you ? Read http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/EasyInstall#installing-easy-install If you can't use APS, or don't have internet access at all,... I just run it with a direct access to the Internet (on Mac OS X, another flavor of *nix): amazas:~ eblot$ python2.5 ez_setup.py Downloading http://pypi.python.org/packages/2.5/s/setuptools/setuptools-0.6c7-py2.5.egg Processing setuptools-0.6c7-py2.5.egg Copying setuptools-0.6c7-py2.5.egg to /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages Adding setuptools 0.6c7 to easy-install.pth file Installing easy_install script to /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/bin Installing easy_install-2.5 script to /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/bin Installed /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c7-py2.5.egg Processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c7 Finished processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c7 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Noah, When the heck is 0.11 coming out? I am about ready to surrender on 0.10.4 -Original Message- From: Noah Kantrowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 4:22 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Samuel A. Falvo II wrote: On Nov 9, 2007 11:17 AM, Tyrone Hed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Samuel, Thank you for your reply. Alas, the one piece of information you didn't have is the exact one where my question lies: ClearSilver. As you said that you use Python at home. Sorry, I'm not a python user. Java, C,C++, COBOL, VB, .NET yet but not Python. For the record, I have been trying to load this to: AIX Python 2.5.1 Trac 0.10.4 SQLite 3.5.1 ClearSilver 0.9.14 I am using ClearSilver 0.10.4. I finally determined this by typing man cgi_parse, and looking at the date of the man page entry. It was 11/14/2006, which corresponds with the 0.10.4 release. It is unfortunate that I am wholesale unable to determine what version is currently installed in any other way. Worth noting that 0.11 will display the version of all used components on the About page and in every error traceback. --Noah --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Trac installer for Linux
Tyrone, Unless you have some kind of emulation libraries installed, it will likely not work. Unfortunately, we are not planning AIX builds at the moment. Cheers El vie, 09-11-2007 a las 16:06 -0500, Tyrone Hed escribió: Antonio, I have used your installer for Windows and loved it. I have been pulling my hair out trying unsuccessfully to install this on AIX. AIX and Linux are pretty far apart. Are you suggesting that this Linux installer might work on AIX? -Original Message- From: Antonio Santos Velasco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 3:59 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Trac installer for Linux Hi, One of the things that people tend to complain about Trac is that 'it is very difficult to install'. Well, not any more :) We have created an easy to use installer for Trac. It installs and configures a number of components: Apache, SQLite, Subversion, Python and, of course, Trac. Currently we have a Linux version, with Windows, OSX and Solaris planned. It's open source, distributed under the Apache 2.0 license. Our goal is to make open source applications as easy to use as possible (we have installers for other projects like Liferay, Drupal, WordPress, etc.) This is a first cut of the stack, and there are some known issues with this release. In particular, although easy_install is installed, it won't work when installing plugins. We expect to fix this for the next release (next week) Below you can find a link to download a first take of the installer. If this is something that interests you, please check it out and let us know what you think. We plan on updating new versions based on users' feedback. http://www.bitnami.org/stack/trac Best regards, Antonio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
When the heck is 0.11 coming out? I am about ready to surrender on 0.10.4 Another hot topic ;-) Hopefully before the end of the year. You need the setuptools to be installed though ;-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Please run the following: curl http://peak.telecommunity.com/dist/ez_setup.py | python curl http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/latest/trunk?old_path=/filename=trunkformat=zip trac_src.zip easy_install trac_src.zip Assuming you use Python 2.5, this is _all_ that is needed to bootstrap and install Trac. --Noah Tyrone Hed wrote: Manu, Sorry, I'm getting confused here. I have three separate people telling me to do three or four different things. Isn't there any easier way? I mean, is this normal to have to install 6 or 7 different tools to get this to install? And then each of those tools may have their own dependencies? Is this the way you guys want this to work? I'm just baffled that it could be this complex, with the need to install so many dependencies. Wouldn't it make more sense to just give one UNIT that the users can install? How would you ever even test TRAC with so many variants? -Original Message- From: Emmanuel Blot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 4:20 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC urllib2.URLError: urlopen error (78, 'Connection timed out') I guess you run this from a LAN behind a HTTP proxy, don't you ? Read http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/EasyInstall#installing-easy-install If you can't use APS, or don't have internet access at all,... I just run it with a direct access to the Internet (on Mac OS X, another flavor of *nix): amazas:~ eblot$ python2.5 ez_setup.py Downloading http://pypi.python.org/packages/2.5/s/setuptools/setuptools-0.6c7-py2.5.egg Processing setuptools-0.6c7-py2.5.egg Copying setuptools-0.6c7-py2.5.egg to /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages Adding setuptools 0.6c7 to easy-install.pth file Installing easy_install script to /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/bin Installing easy_install-2.5 script to /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/bin Installed /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c7-py2.5.egg Processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c7 Finished processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c7 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[Trac] Re: Trac installer for Linux
Antonio, I have been trying for days to navigate the maze that is the set of versions that go together to make TRAC work on AIX. If your company wants to make some money off your product--which is good (I've installed the Windows version)--then you really ought to figure this out. Just look over the back and forth that I have gone through today trying to get this to work. This is no way to deliver your product. I'm begging my manager to let me look for alternatives. Though I love TRAC, if I can't install it on the server we have, it's useless and a damn shame. Telling your users to go around like a buffet to various third party libraries--with uncertainty all over your confusing, link-strewn install page. Let's take a contrary example. Hibernate is another free tool that comes with a myriad of third-party libraries. But in the case of Hibernate--they let you download the correct UNIT with all of those libraries already figured out. THAT's the way it should be done. Sure, both of your products need a lot of third party libs. The Hibernate folks, by contrast, have gotten a package. Why hasn't Edgewall? Thank you all for your vain attempt to help me. -Original Message- From: Antonio Santos Velasco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 4:31 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: Trac installer for Linux Tyrone, Unless you have some kind of emulation libraries installed, it will likely not work. Unfortunately, we are not planning AIX builds at the moment. Cheers El vie, 09-11-2007 a las 16:06 -0500, Tyrone Hed escribi�: Antonio, I have used your installer for Windows and loved it. I have been pulling my hair out trying unsuccessfully to install this on AIX. AIX and Linux are pretty far apart. Are you suggesting that this Linux installer might work on AIX? -Original Message- From: Antonio Santos Velasco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 3:59 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Trac installer for Linux Hi, One of the things that people tend to complain about Trac is that 'it is very difficult to install'. Well, not any more :) We have created an easy to use installer for Trac. It installs and configures a number of components: Apache, SQLite, Subversion, Python and, of course, Trac. Currently we have a Linux version, with Windows, OSX and Solaris planned. It's open source, distributed under the Apache 2.0 license. Our goal is to make open source applications as easy to use as possible (we have installers for other projects like Liferay, Drupal, WordPress, etc.) This is a first cut of the stack, and there are some known issues with this release. In particular, although easy_install is installed, it won't work when installing plugins. We expect to fix this for the next release (next week) Below you can find a link to download a first take of the installer. If this is something that interests you, please check it out and let us know what you think. We plan on updating new versions based on users' feedback. http://www.bitnami.org/stack/trac Best regards, Antonio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Begginer
I am not attempting to use Apache. I am running under tracd alone. I was replying to rodrigo here. If you use tracd, the cgi vs. mod_python choice does not apply. And, frankly, telling me that yet another variant should be tried does not inspire confidence. I have to wonder: is this the way you guys planned this to be? With guess-which-version works with your stuff? No, all of them works, but performance, dependency complexity, compatibility with other modules (PHP to name it), etc. do matter. This true complexity in the choice of the installation kind is the price to pay to support multiple OS, multiple web server, multiple installations, etc. Cheers, Manu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
So by saying I need the setuptools you're saying 0.11 is going to be basically another version buffet like the previous versions. Another nightmare, in other words? -Original Message- From: Emmanuel Blot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 4:33 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC When the heck is 0.11 coming out? I am about ready to surrender on 0.10.4 Another hot topic ;-) Hopefully before the end of the year. You need the setuptools to be installed though ;-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Noah, That sounds promising. Questions though... Is all that on one line? What is the curl? Is that a command? -Original Message- From: Noah Kantrowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 4:36 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Please run the following: curl http://peak.telecommunity.com/dist/ez_setup.py | python curl http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/latest/trunk?old_path=/filename=trunkformat=zip trac_src.zip easy_install trac_src.zip Assuming you use Python 2.5, this is _all_ that is needed to bootstrap and install Trac. --Noah Tyrone Hed wrote: Manu, Sorry, I'm getting confused here. I have three separate people telling me to do three or four different things. Isn't there any easier way? I mean, is this normal to have to install 6 or 7 different tools to get this to install? And then each of those tools may have their own dependencies? Is this the way you guys want this to work? I'm just baffled that it could be this complex, with the need to install so many dependencies. Wouldn't it make more sense to just give one UNIT that the users can install? How would you ever even test TRAC with so many variants? -Original Message- From: Emmanuel Blot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 4:20 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC urllib2.URLError: urlopen error (78, 'Connection timed out') I guess you run this from a LAN behind a HTTP proxy, don't you ? Read http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/EasyInstall#installing-easy-install If you can't use APS, or don't have internet access at all,... I just run it with a direct access to the Internet (on Mac OS X, another flavor of *nix): amazas:~ eblot$ python2.5 ez_setup.py Downloading http://pypi.python.org/packages/2.5/s/setuptools/setuptools-0.6c7-py2.5.egg Processing setuptools-0.6c7-py2.5.egg Copying setuptools-0.6c7-py2.5.egg to /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages Adding setuptools 0.6c7 to easy-install.pth file Installing easy_install script to /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/bin Installing easy_install-2.5 script to /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/bin Installed /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c7-py2.5.egg Processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c7 Finished processing dependencies for setuptools==0.6c7 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Even if not intended, this thread has devolved into trolling. Everyone please stop. If the OP has this much difficulty with Trac, perhaps you should look into one of the professionally hosted options or Trac appliances. I don't think we can do anything more for you. If you would like to furnish a free copy of AIX (and hardware to run it on) to someone, perhaps we can look in to testing on that platform in the future, otherwise your best bet is to switch to a more common platform if you want external help. Best of luck. --Noah signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Tyrone Hed wrote: So by saying I need the setuptools you're saying 0.11 is going to be basically another version buffet like the previous versions. Another nightmare, in other words? nope. (Setuptools, a.k.a. easy_install, is like apt-get for python. It makes everything simple. But it's the baseline you have to have to make things simple.) -- Gary --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Noah, Can you answer my last question please. This link you sent me: curl http://peak.telecommunity.com/dist/ez_setup.py | python curl http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/latest/trunk?old_path=/filename=trunkformat=zip trac_src.zip easy_install trac_src.zip Does that execute on one line? Is curl a command? The is that intentional or an artifact of the install. -Original Message- From: Noah Kantrowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 4:44 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Even if not intended, this thread has devolved into trolling. Everyone please stop. If the OP has this much difficulty with Trac, perhaps you should look into one of the professionally hosted options or Trac appliances. I don't think we can do anything more for you. If you would like to furnish a free copy of AIX (and hardware to run it on) to someone, perhaps we can look in to testing on that platform in the future, otherwise your best bet is to switch to a more common platform if you want external help. Best of luck. --Noah --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Tyrone Hed wrote: Noah, Can you answer my last question please. This link you sent me: curl http://peak.telecommunity.com/dist/ez_setup.py | python curl http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/latest/trunk?old_path=/filename=trunkformat=zip trac_src.zip easy_install trac_src.zip Does that execute on one line? Is curl a command? The is that intentional or an artifact of the install. It's three lines: curl http/... ez_setup.py | python curl http://trac... trac_src.zip easy_install trac_src.zip -- Gary --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
It is three different commands. Curl is a program to download a file over HTTP from the command line. With some minor changes you could also use wget (a similar utility). The is a line-wrap and should be on the line above, directing the output of that download to a file. --Noah Tyrone Hed wrote: Noah, Can you answer my last question please. This link you sent me: curl http://peak.telecommunity.com/dist/ez_setup.py | python curl http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/latest/trunk?old_path=/filename=trunkformat=zip trac_src.zip easy_install trac_src.zip Does that execute on one line? Is curl a command? The is that intentional or an artifact of the install. -Original Message- From: Noah Kantrowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 4:44 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Even if not intended, this thread has devolved into trolling. Everyone please stop. If the OP has this much difficulty with Trac, perhaps you should look into one of the professionally hosted options or Trac appliances. I don't think we can do anything more for you. If you would like to furnish a free copy of AIX (and hardware to run it on) to someone, perhaps we can look in to testing on that platform in the future, otherwise your best bet is to switch to a more common platform if you want external help. Best of luck. --Noah --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Noah, That sounds promising. Questions though... Is all that on one line? What is the curl? Is that a command? curl is a command line tool to download ftp / http web resources it is similar to wget if you know/have this tool. If you don't have it installed on your machine, you can simply download the files with your web browser and use the downloaded files to install Trac. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
curl is not found /apps/trac-0.10.4: /apps/trac-0.10.4:curl http/... ez_setup.py | python curl http://trac... trac_src.zip easy_install trac_src.zip ksh: curl: not found. /apps/trac-0.10.4: curl http://trac... trac_src.zip ksh: curl: not found. /apps/trac-0.10.4: easy_install trac_src.zip ksh: easy_install: not found. /apps/trac-0.10.4: -Original Message- From: Gary Oberbrunner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 4:49 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Tyrone Hed wrote: Noah, Can you answer my last question please. This link you sent me: curl http://peak.telecommunity.com/dist/ez_setup.py | python curl http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/latest/trunk?old_path=/filename=trunkformat=zip trac_src.zip easy_install trac_src.zip Does that execute on one line? Is curl a command? The is that intentional or an artifact of the install. It's three lines: curl http/... ez_setup.py | python curl http://trac... trac_src.zip easy_install trac_src.zip -- Gary --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Regarding TRAC Install
1) Do not reply off-list just because you feel slighted. 2) Please see me earlier comment about professional services or appliances. Perhaps Edgewall is still willing to offer Trac consulting, if not the CommercialServices wiki page has plenty of people who will. Just because I am feeling excessively nice, I will even save you the trouble of searching, http://buildix.thoughtworks.com/. That is a bootable turnkey appliance for Trac+SVN. --Noah Tyrone Hed wrote: Noah, My intention was not to bother you guys--I was asked by my manager to set up TRAC on our Unix server. I didn't pick TRAC--just that another team in our corporation had installed it [on windows] and liked it. My manager liked it too but we only have a Unix box to load it on. By labeling me a troll--which I dispute--you're basically telling me to f*** off. I understand that. I just don't think blaming me is going to help your company. As you know from having been a developer: problems are like cockroaches. For every one you see and hear about, there are a thousand that are silently bothering people. So, I'm your problem? I think not. I thank you and your team for attempting to solve my problem installing your software. It just strikes me as odd that all the kinds men at Edgewall were unable to solve a simple install problem. Good luck with your OTHER products. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[Trac] Aborting The Install attempt--Looking for alternative products
Gentleman, Thank you kindly for your help, though it did not end in success. I sure hope that 0.11 is better. I would suggest that only Unix aces attempt to install your product on Unix. If anybody knows an alternative product, I'm open to suggestions. Best regards to you all and thank you kindly for your attempt to help me install your product. It's too painful. Thank you, Ty --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Regarding TRAC Install
Noah, Thank you for your kind reply. Trac is too difficult to install on our AIX box. I'm back to square one looking for ALTERNATIVES to Trac. We would have been hiring for professional services [the company I work for is the largest bookseller in the world] but this install is too difficult. It does not portend well for the product in general, in my opinion. It suggests the word brittle. I really honestly suggest that you guys find a clean install path for 0.11. Your windows side is much nicer. This is nuts. Best Regards to you all. Bye, Ty -Original Message- From: Noah Kantrowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 4:57 PM To: Tyrone Hed [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: Regarding TRAC Install 1) Do not reply off-list just because you feel slighted. 2) Please see me earlier comment about professional services or appliances. Perhaps Edgewall is still willing to offer Trac consulting, if not the CommercialServices wiki page has plenty of people who will. Just because I am feeling excessively nice, I will even save you the trouble of searching, http://buildix.thoughtworks.com/. That is a bootable turnkey appliance for Trac+SVN. --Noah Tyrone Hed wrote: Noah, My intention was not to bother you guys--I was asked by my manager to set up TRAC on our Unix server. I didn't pick TRAC--just that another team in our corporation had installed it [on windows] and liked it. My manager liked it too but we only have a Unix box to load it on. By labeling me a troll--which I dispute--you're basically telling me to f*** off. I understand that. I just don't think blaming me is going to help your company. As you know from having been a developer: problems are like cockroaches. For every one you see and hear about, there are a thousand that are silently bothering people. So, I'm your problem? I think not. I thank you and your team for attempting to solve my problem installing your software. It just strikes me as odd that all the kinds men at Edgewall were unable to solve a simple install problem. Good luck with your OTHER products. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Tyrone Hed wrote: curl is not found on my system sorry, you're hosed. Yes, you could probably try wget, but you're in way over your head here. Whoever it was that said you need a pro hosting provider or a different tool (remember, trac is at 0.11! Not even close to 1.0 yet!) for your job was on the right track. Even if we get you up running today, how are you going to maintain trac? You need a lot more Unix (AIX) knowledge before diving into a project like this. -- Gary --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Gary, I never claimed to be a unix admin or even close. I do just fine for the simple stuff but I am more in the J2EE world. I worked on mainframes in the mid 1990s and have been working Java in Manhattan since about 1998. And I'm giving up on Trac. Sorry to waste your time. Regards, Ty -Original Message- From: Gary Oberbrunner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 5:06 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Tyrone Hed wrote: curl is not found on my system sorry, you're hosed. Yes, you could probably try wget, but you're in way over your head here. Whoever it was that said you need a pro hosting provider or a different tool (remember, trac is at 0.11! Not even close to 1.0 yet!) for your job was on the right track. Even if we get you up running today, how are you going to maintain trac? You need a lot more Unix (AIX) knowledge before diving into a project like this. -- Gary --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
So by saying I need the setuptools you're saying 0.11 is going to be basically another version buffet like the previous versions. Another nightmare, in other words? No, thanks to the python setuptools, the dependencies nightmare should be hopefully reduced (and likely fully removed) Take a 5 minute break, and please so read: http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/setuptools See the message from Noah about how easy it is to install Trac 0.11. It should address your grief against Edgewall or the Trac team ;-) However, if you're actually behind a HTTP proxy w/ authentication, you may have some troubles setting up the network connection to access the Internet. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Trac installer for Linux
Sarcasm generally won't net you extra help ;) On Nov 9, 2007 4:39 PM, Tyrone Hed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Antonio, I have been trying for days to navigate the maze that is the set of versions that go together to make TRAC work on AIX. If your company wants to make some money off your product--which is good (I've installed the Windows version)--then you really ought to figure this out. Just look over the back and forth that I have gone through today trying to get this to work. This is no way to deliver your product. I'm begging my manager to let me look for alternatives. Though I love TRAC, if I can't install it on the server we have, it's useless and a damn shame. Telling your users to go around like a buffet to various third party libraries--with uncertainty all over your confusing, link-strewn install page. Let's take a contrary example. Hibernate is another free tool that comes with a myriad of third-party libraries. But in the case of Hibernate--they let you download the correct UNIT with all of those libraries already figured out. THAT's the way it should be done. Sure, both of your products need a lot of third party libs. The Hibernate folks, by contrast, have gotten a package. Why hasn't Edgewall? Thank you all for your vain attempt to help me. -Original Message- From: Antonio Santos Velasco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 4:31 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: Trac installer for Linux Tyrone, Unless you have some kind of emulation libraries installed, it will likely not work. Unfortunately, we are not planning AIX builds at the moment. Cheers El vie, 09-11-2007 a las 16:06 -0500, Tyrone Hed escribi�: Antonio, I have used your installer for Windows and loved it. I have been pulling my hair out trying unsuccessfully to install this on AIX. AIX and Linux are pretty far apart. Are you suggesting that this Linux installer might work on AIX? -Original Message- From: Antonio Santos Velasco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 3:59 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Trac installer for Linux Hi, One of the things that people tend to complain about Trac is that 'it is very difficult to install'. Well, not any more :) We have created an easy to use installer for Trac. It installs and configures a number of components: Apache, SQLite, Subversion, Python and, of course, Trac. Currently we have a Linux version, with Windows, OSX and Solaris planned. It's open source, distributed under the Apache 2.0 license. Our goal is to make open source applications as easy to use as possible (we have installers for other projects like Liferay, Drupal, WordPress, etc.) This is a first cut of the stack, and there are some known issues with this release. In particular, although easy_install is installed, it won't work when installing plugins. We expect to fix this for the next release (next week) Below you can find a link to download a first take of the installer. If this is something that interests you, please check it out and let us know what you think. We plan on updating new versions based on users' feedback. http://www.bitnami.org/stack/trac Best regards, Antonio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Tyrone Hed wrote: Gary, I never claimed to be a unix admin or even close. I do just fine for the simple stuff but I am more in the J2EE world. I worked on mainframes in the mid 1990s and have been working Java in Manhattan since about 1998. And I'm giving up on Trac. Sorry to waste your time. I guess the mainframe experience didn't help you a whole lot. /L --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Regarding TRAC Install
A few similar tools off the top of my head: * GForge * DotProject * JTrac * CvsTrac * SharpForge * PrimoPlanner (possibly defunct) --Noah Tyrone Hed wrote: Noah, Thank you for your kind reply. Trac is too difficult to install on our AIX box. I'm back to square one looking for ALTERNATIVES to Trac. We would have been hiring for professional services [the company I work for is the largest bookseller in the world] but this install is too difficult. It does not portend well for the product in general, in my opinion. It suggests the word brittle. I really honestly suggest that you guys find a clean install path for 0.11. Your windows side is much nicer. This is nuts. Best Regards to you all. Bye, Ty -Original Message- From: Noah Kantrowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 4:57 PM To: Tyrone Hed [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: Regarding TRAC Install 1) Do not reply off-list just because you feel slighted. 2) Please see me earlier comment about professional services or appliances. Perhaps Edgewall is still willing to offer Trac consulting, if not the CommercialServices wiki page has plenty of people who will. Just because I am feeling excessively nice, I will even save you the trouble of searching, http://buildix.thoughtworks.com/. That is a bootable turnkey appliance for Trac+SVN. --Noah Tyrone Hed wrote: Noah, My intention was not to bother you guys--I was asked by my manager to set up TRAC on our Unix server. I didn't pick TRAC--just that another team in our corporation had installed it [on windows] and liked it. My manager liked it too but we only have a Unix box to load it on. By labeling me a troll--which I dispute--you're basically telling me to f*** off. I understand that. I just don't think blaming me is going to help your company. As you know from having been a developer: problems are like cockroaches. For every one you see and hear about, there are a thousand that are silently bothering people. So, I'm your problem? I think not. I thank you and your team for attempting to solve my problem installing your software. It just strikes me as odd that all the kinds men at Edgewall were unable to solve a simple install problem. Good luck with your OTHER products. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[Trac] Re: TRAC
Check out codeBeamer... I don't know if its on AIX but it has a lot of J2EE hooks such as autobuilds for nightly builds and JUnit testing. Joshua Preston 614-619-1959 Sent from my iPhone On Nov 9, 2007, at 5:10 PM, Tyrone Hed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary, I never claimed to be a unix admin or even close. I do just fine for the simple stuff but I am more in the J2EE world. I worked on mainframes in the mid 1990s and have been working Java in Manhattan since about 1998. And I'm giving up on Trac. Sorry to waste your time. Regards, Ty -Original Message- From: Gary Oberbrunner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 5:06 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: TRAC Tyrone Hed wrote: curl is not found on my system sorry, you're hosed. Yes, you could probably try wget, but you're in way over your head here. Whoever it was that said you need a pro hosting provider or a different tool (remember, trac is at 0.11! Not even close to 1.0 yet!) for your job was on the right track. Even if we get you up running today, how are you going to maintain trac? You need a lot more Unix (AIX) knowledge before diving into a project like this. -- Gary --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Regarding TRAC Install
So, you mean installing Trac in AIX is harder than in Windows? How is this different from any other package? On Nov 9, 8:05 pm, Tyrone Hed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Noah, Thank you for your kind reply. Trac is too difficult to install on our AIX box. I'm back to square one looking for ALTERNATIVES to Trac. We would have been hiring for professional services [the company I work for is the largest bookseller in the world] but this install is too difficult. It does not portend well for the product in general, in my opinion. It suggests the word brittle. I really honestly suggest that you guys find a clean install path for 0.11. Your windows side is much nicer. This is nuts. Best Regards to you all. Bye, Ty -Original Message- From: Noah Kantrowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 9, 2007 4:57 PM To: Tyrone Hed [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: Regarding TRAC Install 1) Do not reply off-list just because you feel slighted. 2) Please see me earlier comment about professional services or appliances. Perhaps Edgewall is still willing to offer Trac consulting, if not the CommercialServices wiki page has plenty of people who will. Just because I am feeling excessively nice, I will even save you the trouble of searching,http://buildix.thoughtworks.com/. That is a bootable turnkey appliance for Trac+SVN. --Noah Tyrone Hed wrote: Noah, My intention was not to bother you guys--I was asked by my manager to set up TRAC on our Unix server. I didn't pick TRAC--just that another team in our corporation had installed it [on windows] and liked it. My manager liked it too but we only have a Unix box to load it on. By labeling me a troll--which I dispute--you're basically telling me to f*** off. I understand that. I just don't think blaming me is going to help your company. As you know from having been a developer: problems are like cockroaches. For every one you see and hear about, there are a thousand that are silently bothering people. So, I'm your problem? I think not. I thank you and your team for attempting to solve my problem installing your software. It just strikes me as odd that all the kinds men at Edgewall were unable to solve a simple install problem. Good luck with your OTHER products. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
