[Trac] Is anyone using Trac as a helpdesk tool?

2011-01-04 Thread Dan North
Hi folks.

As the subject says, I'm looking at using Trac as a helpdesk tool and I
wondered if anyone else was using it in this way? Have you tried it and
abandoned it, or better yet tried it and found it does everything you need?

I searched the list archives for helpdesk and help desk and only found
only a handful of threads, from 2009 and earlier. Google doesn't turn up
much either.

Does this seem like a sensible use of Trac or should I be considering
something else entirely to manage helpdesk ticket lifecycle?

Thanks,
Dan

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Re: [Trac] Is anyone using Trac as a helpdesk tool?

2011-01-04 Thread Eirik Schwenke
Dan North skrev 04/01/11 11:45:
 Hi folks.
 
 As the subject says, I'm looking at using Trac as a helpdesk tool and I
 wondered if anyone else was using it in this way? Have you tried it and
 abandoned it, or better yet tried it and found it does everything you need?
 
 I searched the list archives for helpdesk and help desk and only found
 only a handful of threads, from 2009 and earlier. Google doesn't turn up
 much either.
 
 Does this seem like a sensible use of Trac or should I be considering
 something else entirely to manage helpdesk ticket lifecycle?
 

We are using trac as a help desk tool of sorts -- and it fits our (very
limited) needs well. We are still mostly using trac internally to share
and document information among administrators, not so much as a user
facing (visible) tool.

We are planning to move our support-(email)-list over to defaulting to
creating trac-tickets, but are still doing this on a case by case basis,
triaging out trivial issues that we don't need to document for posterity.

Depending on your needs, and idea of what a help desk system is --
trac can work well -- it's very customizable, and has reasonable email
integration via email2trac[1].

To the best of my knowledge the main missing feature is an easy,
automated way of escalating tickets based on age. But various
workarounds should be possible, perhaps using the xmlrpc-plugin[2] in
combination with a few scripts run by cron.


[1] https://subtrac.sara.nl/oss/email2trac
[2] http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/XmlRpcPlugin


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Re: [Trac] Is anyone using Trac as a helpdesk tool?

2011-01-04 Thread W. Martin Borgert

Quoting Dan North d...@dannorth.net:

Does this seem like a sensible use of Trac or should I be considering
something else entirely to manage helpdesk ticket lifecycle?


In my company we have one instance of Trac as the help desk system.

Pros:
 - we use other Trac instances for development, no need for yet
   another system for help desk
 - integration of tickets and wiki is very useful, e.g. typical
   customer
   problems and solutions can be described in wiki pages
 - email2trac creates tickets automatically and appends to tickets
 - Trac has with its many plugins many features you might need,
   while most other systems cannot be enhanced easily

Cons:
 - reply to customers not integrated in Trac, you still have to
   use MUA (notification is not an option, as internal changes
   should not be sent to the customer)
 - if customers reply doesn't contain existing ticket number, a
   new ticket is erronously created, but there is no easy way to
   merge tickets (see #3006)
 - spam protection does not always work perfectly
 - no integration into customer data base, e.g. contact data like
   telephone, nor integration with any CTI or VoIP tool

HTH

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Re: [Trac] Git trac 0.12 post receive hook problem

2011-01-04 Thread Matthew Caron

On 12/21/2010 01:49 AM, tony wrote:

Hi!
We activated the DEBUG with a commit (see attached file) and we could
not identity any problem (there is a line that says 'Failed to load
Subversion bindings', but I am not sure this is relevant due we use
git)


I believe it is. An ImportError is fatal, if I remember correctly.
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Re: [Trac] compile problem trac=0.12 with babel

2011-01-04 Thread Christian Boos

On 1/3/2011 10:05 PM, Holger Bruenjes wrote:


Hello

Am 2011-01-03 11:04, schrieb Christian Boos:

On 1/2/2011 11:29 PM, Holger Bruenjes wrote:


Hello

I will compile Trac=0.12.1, but I have problem with babel

I installed babel 0.9.5 first and run in locale ERROR

Trac-0.12.1 # python ./setup.py build
running build
running compile_catalog_js
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File ./setup.py, line 136, inmodule
 **extra
   File /usr/lib/python2.7/distutils/core.py, line 152, in setup


How did you install Babel?


I have just done it agin
...

but, when I use

easy_install -z Babel==0.9.5

then Trac compiled with error


... and even that still worked for me. Which version of easy_install are 
you using? I was using setuptools-0.6c12 (on Linux).


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Re: [Trac] compile problem trac=0.12 with babel

2011-01-04 Thread Holger Bruenjes

Hallo

Am 2011-01-04 19:50, schrieb Christian Boos:


but, when I use

easy_install -z Babel==0.9.5

then Trac compiled with error


... and even that still worked for me. Which version of easy_install are
you using? I was using setuptools-0.6c12 (on Linux).


I installed on Linux

it does not work :-(

easy_install -U setuptools
Best match: setuptools 0.6c12dev-r85381

easy_install pytz==2010o

easy_install -z Babel==0.9.5

easy_install Genshi==0.6

easy_install Trac==0.12.1

  File /usr/bin/easy_install, line 8, in module
load_entry_point('setuptools==0.6c12dev-r85381', 
'console_scripts', 'easy_install')()




  File build/bdist.linux-i686/egg/babel/core.py, line 212, in parse
  File build/bdist.linux-i686/egg/babel/core.py, line 137, in 
__init__

babel.core.UnknownLocaleError: unknown locale 'ca'


hmm, than I use Babel witout -z

Thanks
Holger

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[Trac] Environment needs to be upgraded but already upgraded, catch 22

2011-01-04 Thread Hans Poo
Hi,

This post is some kind of upgrade to ticket with subject 0.96 - 0.10
TracError: The Trac Environment needs to be upgraded.

In my case when upgrading from 0.11 to 0.12 via the web interface i
received a message telling me to upgrade the database, but surprise,
when running the upgrade in the console using trac-admin xxx upgrade,
the system said that the database was already upgraded.. i fall in
some kind of catch 22.

The aforementioned message posted by Sven Schmidt gives the solution,
but the library name changed  from trac.scripts.admin to
trac.admin.console, and so i decided to issue this ticket.

The technique lies in calling the upgrade method directly from python:

t...@gondor:~$ python
from trac.admin.console import run
run(['/home/trac/xxx-site', 'upgrade'])


Bye,
Hans

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Re: [Trac] Is anyone using Trac as a helpdesk tool?

2011-01-04 Thread Flatfender
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 5:45 AM, Dan North d...@dannorth.net wrote:
 Hi folks.
 As the subject says, I'm looking at using Trac as a helpdesk tool and I
 wondered if anyone else was using it in this way? Have you tried it and
 abandoned it, or better yet tried it and found it does everything you need?
 I searched the list archives for helpdesk and help desk and only found
 only a handful of threads, from 2009 and earlier. Google doesn't turn up
 much either.
 Does this seem like a sensible use of Trac or should I be considering
 something else entirely to manage helpdesk ticket lifecycle?
 Thanks,
 Dan

I used it at a past company and liked it.  The inability to merge
tickets is a problem, but not insurmountable.   I'm getting ready to
hopefully replace RT at my current company with Trac.  Here is a list
of plugins I used at my last company, this was some time ago, so not
all these may be needed or useful given the latest version of trac.
We used private wiki portion to have public and private parts of the
wiki which was really useful. So we could use the wiki to document to
user so sometimes they didn't need to put a ticket in, b/c the wiki
could answer their question.  If you needs are simple it should work
quite well.  Adding and tweaking fields will be of value to you.

AutocompleteUsers-0.4.1-py2.5.egg
BatchModify-0.2.0-py2.4.egg
BatchModify-0.2.0-py2.5.egg
BlackMagicTicketTweaks-0.1-py2.5.egg
BreadCrumbsNavPlugin-0.1-py2.4.egg
NavAdd-0.1-py2.5.egg
NoteBox-0.1.dev-py2.5.egg
PrivateWikis-1.0.0-py2.5.egg
TicketBox.py
TicketCharts.py
TicketValidator-0.1-py2.5.egg
TracAccountManager-0.2.1dev-py2.5.egg
TracAddHeadersPlugin-0.1-py2.5.egg
TracAdvParseArgsPlugin-0.1.-py2.5.egg
TracAuthRequired-0.3.1-py2.5.egg
TracDateField-1.0.1-py2.5.egg
TracHTTPAuth-1.1-py2.5.egg
TracNav-3.92-py2.5.egg
TracNewsFlash-1.0.1-py2.5.egg
TracNoAnonymous-2.0-py2.4.egg
TracPrivateTickets-2.0.2-py2.5.egg
TracUserManagerPlugin-0.3-py2.5.egg
TracWysiwyg-0.2-py2.5.egg
Tracticketstats-1.0-py2.4.egg
openFlashChart.py
openFlashChart_elements.py
openFlashChart_varieties.py
ticket_clone.py.bak

Sorry for not having a better list, I only got a plugins directory
listing after I left.  You should be able to find them on on track
hacks though.

Matt P.

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Re: [Trac] Moving trac to a new server

2011-01-04 Thread alind sharma
I think that trac-admin hotcopy command should help you. 

 Alind Sharma





From: Erik Andersson kir...@gmail.com
To: trac-users@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, 2 January, 2011 12:36:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Trac] Moving trac to a new server

Check in trac.ini. [trac]-section, parameter database.

http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/0.11/TracIni#trac-section
http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracIni#trac-section

Cheers / Erik


On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 3:41 AM, TimBooher a...@theboohers.org wrote:

I just moved to a new server and want to get my trac setup again. I am
hoping to integrate with git, but will settle for svn for now as that
is what I was using before.

I just copied /old/path/MyTrac to /var/lib/trac/MyNewTrac/ so I get:

-rwxrwxrw- 1 www-data www-data   98 Dec 29 21:05 README
-rwxrwxrw- 1 www-data www-data   27 Dec 29 21:05 VERSION
drwxrwxrw- 3 www-data www-data 4096 Nov 26 21:19 attachments
drwxrwxrw- 2 www-data www-data 4096 Nov 26 21:19 conf
drwxrwxrw- 2 www-data www-data 4096 Dec 29 21:36 db
drwxrwxrw- 2 www-data www-data 4096 Nov 26 21:19 htdocs
drwxrwxrw- 2 www-data www-data 4096 Nov 26 21:19 log
drwxrwxrw- 2 www-data www-data 4096 Nov 26 21:19 plugins
drwxrwxrw- 2 www-data www-data 4096 Nov 26 21:19 templates
drwxrwxrw- 2 www-data www-data 4096 Nov 26 21:19 trac
drwxrwxrw- 6 www-data www-data 4096 Nov 26 21:19 webadmin
drwxrwxrw- 2 www-data www-data 4096 Nov 26 21:19 wiki-macros

db has trac.db  trac.db.20.bak  trac.db.21.bak

so it looks like i was using sqllite -- but i am not sure. What is the
best way to transfer the trac site? I have the entire old server
mounted as a directory on the new server.

Thanks for any help.

Best,

Tim

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Re: [Trac] Is anyone using Trac as a helpdesk tool?

2011-01-04 Thread Rainer Sokoll
On 1/4/11 11:45 AM, Dan North wrote:

 Does this seem like a sensible use of Trac or should I be considering
 something else entirely to manage helpdesk ticket lifecycle?

We use trac for our internal helpdesk for about 5 years now.
All modules but the wiki module and the ticket module are disabled.
Pros:
Once it is installed and configured, it is a fire-and-forget solution.
Ability to open tickets via email (email2trac). Fine grained ticket
permissions via plugin.
Cons:
No escalation. No remainders when a tickets gets overdue. No way (at
least I found none) to force users to set their email address at first
login - no emails are sent out to the reporter then. Most users don't
care about the wiki syntax, so often the formatting is messed up. No way
to merge tickets.
In summary: To me, trac is a really good helpdesk tool. I can live with
its limitations. It is worth a try.

Rainer

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