Re: [Trisquel-users] Screen Resolution

2013-02-16 Thread danels92

Anyone knows why can't I enter to my desktop?

I created a new profile, but it just doesn't work.

If I found a solution I'll post it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6 will include nonfree games... courtesy of Rubén

2013-02-16 Thread danels92
Well, yesterday I created a thread talking about some digital game  
distributors that offers games without any form of DRM, but they are not open  
source.


In my opinion, a game it cannot be treated like a application, also Scummvm.

It's like hey, don't put VLC on repositories, it can read non-free video  
codecs!. But then, VLC it's an awesome video player, just as Scummvm is an  
awesome oldgame simulator.


A game is not something that you are gonna work with, it's entertainment,  
there is no need, apart from modding it (a huge list of PC games have modding  
tools), to change anything on the original source. That is my opinion, at  
least.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Ghostery or Do not track on Abrowser

2013-02-16 Thread danels92

Thanks man, already done it.

I'll stay like this for some time, and let's see if collision gets something.

By the way, before Trisquel I also used Better Privacy, that removes  
supercookies and flash cookies after closing the browser, any alternative to  
this?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6 will include nonfree games... courtesy of Rubén

2013-02-16 Thread moilami
My understanding is that Trisquel GNU/Linux can be bundled with FotAQ data  
because Trisquel would honour both FSF guidelines and the spirit of the  
licence of FotAQ data.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Screen Resolution

2013-02-16 Thread magicbanana
Can you log in a terminal session (press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to have one)? If it  
works, try executing 'startx' afterwards.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6 will include nonfree games... courtesy of Rubén

2013-02-16 Thread Michał Masłowski
The FSF recommends a license with a similar restriction for fonts,
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#SILOFL, it's not a problem
when distributing a distro containing other packages.  (Fonts are
clearly works for practical use which they consider equivalent to
software for freedom issues.)


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Ghostery or Do not track on Abrowser

2013-02-16 Thread Stefano
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 23:01:39 +0100 (CET), you wrote:
Well, that collision extension gets my a tracking data.


Hi,

collusion DOES NOT get your tracking data, it only DISPLAYS the cookies that
have been saved on your machine in a graph that shows what sites you actually
visited and what other sites have saved cookies during that visit.

For example, you may NEVER go on Facebook, but when you visit the CNN site,
you'll get Facebook cookies on your computer (unless you block them somehow).

Beef Taco is a collection of don't track cookies: it will keep those
cookies on your computer so that the tracking websites will know that you DON'T
WANT to be tracked and won't save any other cookies in your browser.

Best,

-- 
Stefano

Fortune of the day: Blow it out your ear.


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[Trisquel-users] LTS Hardware Enablement Stack 6.0

2013-02-16 Thread zatroch
Greetings, I would like to put up the topic of continuous graphics and driver  
stack pushing on track with you users of this fully-libre GNU/Linux  
distribution.


Since we are based on upstream Ubuntu  Debian GNU/Linux after all, it is  
good to know about upcoming changes within maintenance process ahead.


I have noticed some packages being built with version bump of 12.04.2 within  
Toutais' repos already, however we better watch out for related kernel work  
(3.5.x | and yes I am aware of two additional personal package archives of  
jxself and dns with recent linux-libre). I do state this mostly because I  
assume new packages were meant to be incorporated into toutatis-security   
toutatis-updates repositories, instead of not-recommended   
not-adequately-treated backports repository.


Post Scriptum: One more week till hugely expected Trisquel GNU/Linux Toutatis  
realease comes handy to solve possible issues coming with this update pack.  
Correct me if I am wrong and / or Rubén is fully occupied. [In case you  
Rubén read this, I want to express my gratitude for swapping Bazaar-based  
developer's corner with one made possible by Git.] (=


FYI

1.  
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2013-February/000166.html


2. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack

3. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6 will include nonfree games... courtesy of Rubén

2013-02-16 Thread mikko . viinamaki
A collection of games which contain free software and freely licensed media*  
is at


https://libregamewiki.org/


*A free media license allows distribution (including commercial use) and  
manipulation of media. Releasing derivate works under the same license  
(copyleft) and attribution to the original author(s) can be enforced by such  
a license. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] What if we win?

2013-02-16 Thread tegskywalker
If the industry is moving away from applications and more SaaS through your  
web browser, what happens next? Technically all the processing is done on  
their servers and if they are running a GPL license, the terms of that  
license do not apply since it isn't technically running on your computer  
unless it is JavaScript.


The Affero GPL was supposed to fix this, but no one is really using it and  
projects that do like Status.Net are being replaced by ones like pump.io that  
are under an Apache license.  
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/statusnet-identica-and-another-blow-agpl


Why would he move away from the AGPL? I'm not attacking it but I am asking  
you, the free software wizard. Did he want more entities besides himself  
contributing code back and the AGPL scared them away?


[Trisquel-users] Technically, Trisquel 6 now also supports Secure Boot?

2013-02-16 Thread tegskywalker
As you may have noticed, Ubuntu 12.04.2 came out the other day with the 3.5  
Quantal kernel enabled by default and support for Secure Boot:  
http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/02/14/ubuntu-12-04-2-lts-released/


Since Trisquel 6 is being released very late and will migrate in those  
changes, doesn't technically Trisquel now support Secure Boot as well since  
it is using the code from Ubuntu and the GRUB settings? Is Ruben going to  
keep it in there or rip it out and replace it?


What are your feelings on this? Is it good thing for those who bought a  
Windows 8 laptop and want to try out and potentially dual boot with Trisquel?  
Adding Secure Boot support was kinda necessary by some becuase without it,  
GNU/Linux systems could potentially be locked out in the future.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Ghostery or Do not track on Abrowser

2013-02-16 Thread mikko . viinamaki
One way would be to write a wrapper script to your browser which would clear  
/home/`whoami`/gnu/.gnash/SharedObjects/


The battle for privacy in a web browser is very hard. But very much worth  
fighting. Some of the threats include


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evercookie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Device_fingerprint


Re: [Trisquel-users] LTS Hardware Enablement Stack 6.0

2013-02-16 Thread tegskywalker
This is why I have been pushing hard for jxself and/or DNS to deblob the  
lts-quantal (3.5) kernel for 12.04 to potentially avoid issues. At least  
offer it as an option alongside the normal one if we need it. At this point,  
should 3.5 be installed by default like the latest Ubuntu 12.04.2 ISO?


It would be nice to have the lts-quantal kernel package in the Trisquel repos  
by the time 6 is released.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6 will include nonfree games... courtesy of Rubén

2013-02-16 Thread onpon4
Complaining about ScummVM only being useful for nonfree games (though  
Flight of the Amazon Queen and Beneath a Steel Sky are not nonfree, from my  
understanding, I'll ignore this for now) is a bit absurd. ScummVM's code  
(i.e. the game engine) is all free; the only parts that are ever nonfree are  
game data, i.e. the scenario, art, voices, and sounds, which are  
non-functional.


Compare this to emulators of video game consoles, which are only useful for  
playing nonfree games using the exact same nonfree software they use on the  
original consoles. Or DOSBox, which is only useful for running nonfree DOS  
programs (such as the original nonfree engine to run an old adventure game).


Kicking ScummVM because its main purpose is to be used with nonfree  
non-functional game data is like kicking PrBoom because its main purpose is  
to play the original Doom, which is nonfree.


As an aside, I see SirGrant suggesting in that bug report removing ScummVM  
but keeping Flight of the Amazon Queen, but that's absurd; Flight of the  
Amazon Queen needs ScummVM, or the original proprietary game engine, to  
function.


There is one legitimate concern, though: the description of ScummVM shouldn't  
suggest the nonfree game data options, only the free game data options  
(Flight of the Amazon Queen and Beneath a Steel Sky).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6 will include nonfree games... courtesy of Rubén

2013-02-16 Thread tegskywalker
ZSNES is free software (GPL) but its sole purpose is to play ROMs of the  
Super Nintendo. It can play free games in addition to proprietary games so  
its more of a user choice in the type of game you use.


You can use free ROMs only with ZSNES if you want and stay away from the  
commercial ones. But let's be honest... who uses a SNES emulator and doesn't  
play the classics?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Ubuntu Fonts License

2013-02-16 Thread ejectmail
Will someone please ask the FSF to inspect this license? I've deleted the  
Ubuntu fonts from my computer for now until their free status can be  
verified.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6 will include nonfree games... courtesy of Rubén

2013-02-16 Thread pedrosilva
I started this, and maybe wrongly 'cause english isn't my native language,  
but this is how i understood it:


You may not charge a fee for the game itself but You may charge a  
reasonable copying fee for this archive


You can only sell this game independently of its value, as a basic copying  
service you provide, so a reasonable copying fee is what is expected.


In other words, you can't sell these two games for whatever price you feel  
like. The reasonable makes these two games

nonfree.




I hadn't thought of the free engine + nonfree Non-functional Data issue. But  
you know, this sounds absurd to me because... WITHOUT NON-FUNCTIONAL DATA  
THERE IS NO GAME!
The graphics and sounds are also what make the game what it is. You cannot  
compare them with say... desktop wallpapers and sounds!




Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6 will include nonfree games... courtesy of Rubén

2013-02-16 Thread onpon4


 You can only sell this game independently of its value, as a basic copying
 service you provide, so a reasonable copying fee is what is expected.

 In other words, you can't sell these two games for whatever price you feel
 like. The reasonable makes these two games
 nonfree.

What you missed is the part where you can cheat this by simply bundling it  
with something else. The SIL Open Font License has something vaguely similar:  
you're required to redistribute fonts licensed in such a manner with a  
program. See: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#SILOFL


 I hadn't thought of the free engine + nonfree Non-functional Data issue.  
But

 you know, this sounds absurd to me because... WITHOUT NON-FUNCTIONAL DATA
 THERE IS NO GAME!
 The graphics and sounds are also what make the game what it is. You cannot
 compare them with say... desktop wallpapers and sounds!

Similarly, without the movie there is no movie.

When I say non-functional, I mean that these parts of the game don't do  
anything. The game engine (i.e. the program that allows you to play the game)  
does do a practical job. The game data, on the other hand, is artistic, so we  
don't need to treat it the same as a computer program.


In particular, though it isn't likely due to the way ScummVM is written  
(apparently a lot of hacks for individual games; I haven't looked at the  
source code myself), it is perfectly possible to use ScummVM as a base to  
create a new game. Similarly, the Freedoom project was made possible by the  
Doom engine being free, even though the Doom non-functional data remains  
nonfree.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Seahorse / Evolution Problem

2013-02-16 Thread gustavo_cm
Are these Trisquel installations up-to-date? There have been many upgrades  
(at least for 5.5) in the last weeks.


I had problems with enabling HTML reading by default (when I opened  
Evolution, the first message was HTML-only, perhaps problematic, and  
Evolution went unstable: I couldn't scroll the list of messages or read them,  
in the same folder; other folders behave well), so I disabled it. Everything  
went back to normal.


I talked to Lavabit support team (Pete S.) and they (he) said some Trisquel  
users reported the SSL verification problem with Seahorse and Evolution;  
perhaps upgrading what you can could help you. If not, I don't know where to  
start diggering... perhaps running Evolution from a terminal; see if any  
error messages are shown.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Ghostery or Do not track on Abrowser

2013-02-16 Thread gustavo_cm
I always recommend RequestPolicy -- https://www.requestpolicy.com/ -- for  
controlling cross-site requisitions. I started using it after throwing the  
non-free Ghostery away, and I found out it is even better; it blocks those  
requisitions and is GPLv3. I don't remember if Ghostery did more stuff than  
that.


RP's future versions will have support for, let's say, complex listing, so  
one (or many people) could make lists of privacy offenders.


I choose to block every requisition by default (it comes with predefinitions  
for widely-used websites), accepting only the ones I really want. I mostly  
only read things, so without advertising and tracking I am mostly happy :-)


It could disturb financial transactions if improperly configured; be aware.  
It's wise it to disable requisitions blocking the first time you buy  
something with it, keeping an eye in the Requests List so you can add the  
needed requests to whitelist. But remember: if webmasters change things  
later, you It could disturb financial transactions if improperly configured;  
be aware. It's wise it to disable requisitions blocking the first time you  
buy something with it, keeping an eye in the Requests List so you can add the  
Requests to can fall victim of unawareness.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Ghostery or Do not track on Abrowser

2013-02-16 Thread christian
I tried requestpolicy for a while, and I found often it took some  
experimenting to get things to work right here and there.  It may be the  
safest option, but (at least for a naive user like me) it was too much work,  
and I would also accidentally let the wrong requests through sometimes when  
toying with it.  If you have it working great though, then more power to you.


[Trisquel-users] Re : What if we win?

2013-02-16 Thread magicbanana

The Affero GPL was supposed to fix this

Plain wrong again:
One problem which the GNU Affero GPL does not address is the problem of  
Software as a Service (SaaS). It is impossible, as far as we know, to address  
this problem with a software license.


[Trisquel-users] Re : LTS Hardware Enablement Stack 6.0

2013-02-16 Thread magicbanana

As far as I understand Ubuntu 12.04.2 ships with Linux 3.2.0.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6 will include nonfree games... courtesy of Rubén

2013-02-16 Thread felipe . lopac
Mr. Boat, I think there are many kinds of games, not just for entertainment  
but for edutainment as well. A person who loves games may at some point  
want to learn how those games were made. A game developer who releases the  
code of her games under libre licenses is supporting the learning process of  
people who want to create games. Making small changes in the source code of  
an already functional and useful application or game can be very  
constructive.


As for the graphics and other assets that are consider non-functional, and  
for that reason not necessary to be free, I don't agree with the FSF. Those  
non-functional components are part of the cognitive ergonomics of the  
software which help optimize human interaction with the system. As such,  
these non-functional components should be libre as well so that the  
community in general can share them and build upon them.


In games, these non-functional components are specially important. Remove  
these from a great game, remove its graphics, music and story, and to an  
end-user the game may seem like a piece of crap, even if the source code is  
beautiful.


Re: [Trisquel-users] LTS Hardware Enablement Stack 6.0

2013-02-16 Thread tegskywalker
Magic is wrong again:  
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Secure-Boot-comes-to-Ubuntu-12-04-2-LTS-1804203.html


Re: [Trisquel-users] LTS Hardware Enablement Stack 6.0

2013-02-16 Thread tegskywalker
Oh and this too since it is official  
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#PrecisePangolin.2BAC8-ReleaseNotes.2BAC8-CommonInfrastructure.Ubuntu_Kernel_3.5.0-23.35


By default, the 12.04.2 point release will ship with a newer 3.5.0-23.35  
Ubuntu kernel from Quantal, and a matching X.org stack. This is based on the  
3.5.7.2 Extended Upstream Stable Kernel Release. The purpose of providing a  
newer kernel in the 12.04.2 point release is for hardware enablement.


[Trisquel-users] Linux-libre 3.8 RC Kernels Available

2013-02-16 Thread migatheotaku
Just something I thought I'd share for those who like to compile things  
themselves. You can now download and compile the 3.8 RC deblobbed kernels:


http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/releases/

These are still RC kernels (meaning not a final release, obviously), but I'm  
sort of glad that there are 3.8 RC libre kernels out, as I'm running hardware  
that wasn't supported on 3.7 at all (namely an nVidia GeForce GTX 660, which  
nouveau didn't support on those kernels. I don't recommend doing this, it's  
RIDICULOUSLY unstable).


So yeah, have fun or whatever you want.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Screen Resolution

2013-02-16 Thread danels92
It seems like it is a Gnome problem, I installes openbox and works without  
any problem.


Re: [Trisquel-users] LTS Hardware Enablement Stack 6.0

2013-02-16 Thread jason
It would be nice to have the lts-quantal kernel package in the Trisquel  
repos by the time 6 is released.


Don't worry; It will be.


Re: [Trisquel-users] LTS Hardware Enablement Stack 6.0

2013-02-16 Thread tegskywalker
You rock man. Next time I am in Seattle I owe you a beer and maybe a lap  
dance at Little Darlings. :-)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Seahorse / Evolution Problem

2013-02-16 Thread matt . ivie
Yeah everything is up-to-date. I don't know where to start either. I have  
been on the evolution mailing list and the only suggestion I received was  
that something is causing my nss database to have problems. I think that's  
under ~/.pki/nssb or somewhere similar. I've tried pulling those files out  
and letting seahorse rebuild it(don't know if that's the right thing to do)  
but it didn't help.


I do have to say that this is a frustrating thing about using a distro that  
is a repackage of another distro. You have problems that are upstream and  
then you end up chasing bug trackers and things from those. To complicate it  
even more we're based on an older release of Ubuntu. I've found that people  
like to recommend that the problem is fixed in the newest version of Ubuntu,  
which of course doesn't help anyone using Trisquel all that much.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Donation

2013-02-16 Thread matt . ivie
As far as processing transactions for donations has anyone looked into using  
ACH payments? I don't know a ton about them and I know that many companies  
use ACH to pay their vendors. I found a project that looks like it might be  
worth looking into. It's called OpenACH and can be found at openach.com


Looks pretty flexible as a payment option. I'm not sure how flexible the  
software is or what kinks might come up.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Screen Resolution

2013-02-16 Thread mikko . viinamaki

Perhaps purging and reinstalling it would help?