[Trisquel-users] Missing Free firware (benign?) error message
Hello everyone. It is with great pleasure that I can say that (after some doubt, and a long time waiting for this latest version, based on a LTS (more stable) version of Ubuntu) I have definitely adopted Trisquel on my secondary (laptop) computer. :) I managed to get it working properly by myself, by adding the nomodeset option on the kernel parameters (since, it wouldn't boot to the graphical login otherwise) and, contrary to the previous (5.5) version of Trisquel, my laptop now shuts down properly and (very) quickly. There's only one catch - that I believe to be Trisquel-related (or specific). When booting up, right before the graphical login shows up, I can see an error message saying Missing Free firmware. And, checking the /var/log/dmesg file, this are the last lines that are written there: [ 81.971043] 8139too :08:02.0: eth0: link down [ 81.971340] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready [ 81.971970] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready [ 82.020036] ssb0:0: Missing Free firmware [ 82.356103] b43-phy0: Loading OpenSource firmware version 410.31754 [ 82.356109] b43-phy0: Hardware crypto acceleration not supported by firmware [ 82.356112] b43-phy0: QoS not supported by firmware [ 82.408639] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready [ 82.408966] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready The b43 part of the messages, relates to the built-in Broadcom BCM4318 wireless network card, that already functioned out-of-the-box in 5.5 and is now functioning well, also, in 6.0. I suspect this error message to have something to do with this card, but, I can use it, and I don't think I have any problems with my wireless connection - and am using it now to post this message. I suspect this to be just a benign error message - of the type that appear, a lot, just to report results, and one that can be ignored, with no problems. But, not knowing what it means, I would like to be sure... Also, if this is that type of error message, is there a way to silence it, so that it doesn't show up during boot? (It's just that, with only this exception, everything seems to be working fine - and, if possible, I would like to setup a Trisquel system functioning in an as pretty way as possible.) :) Thank you, to everyone involved, for this Great distro. I can now happily (fully) operate a laptop computer, with a WiFi connection, using only Free Software! :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] nVidia GT9500-Toutatis
As I wrote I have wiped out the Trisquel installation on this PC. I will do a test installation on my Main PC of Trisquel 6.0 to an USB stick, update and see if Nouveau fails here also. My main PC has the same pre-requisites since it is a dual GPU PC. Even if switching of the onboard GPU solved the issue it is hard to understand for my why an onboard GPU should interfere with the main PCIe GPU. To my best knowledge most onboard GPUs get automatically diabled when you plug in a dedicated GPU in the slot. You will find not the slightest evidence that there is a dedicated GPU available. Neither via dmesg, Xorg.0.log or hwinfo. This might be different if the chipset and GPU supports parallel use for onboard GPU and dedicated GPU. I know that ATI has some chipsets which support this.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Missing Free firware (benign?) error message
I want to confirm it's nothing to worry about. I have the same card. I don't know if you can hide that message but you can remove these bits [ 82.356109] b43-phy0: Hardware crypto acceleration not supported by firmware [ 82.356112] b43-phy0: QoS not supported by firmware by not asking the b43 kernel module to not use those features. It can be done by making a file /etc/modprobe.d/b43.conf with the following content: options b43 nohwcrypt=1 qos=0
Re: [Trisquel-users] Big trouble with Blender
Do you know how to enter the BIOS setup? You need to press some key during early bootup. And then you get some nice menus that contain something, possibly even related to this issue... It's different key for everybody, since that's real handy, isn't it? And then the actual contents and look are also different to keep us guessing...
[Trisquel-users] Fortune cookie dispenser
Want a silly button that dispenses (hopefully) witty adages? If you answered that yes, then install required packages. sudo apt-get install fortunes fortune-mod xosd-bin Then save the attached bash script file. Review the code to see I'm not doing anything nasty to you (I'm not, promise) and make the file executable by chmod +x /path/to/file. Then make a launcher icon by alt+right clicking on panel (in 5.5) or alt+meta+right clicking on panel (in 6.0) and select add - custom launcher and point it to the script file you made executable. Add the cookie icon. Now, to operate this fabulous tool, clicking on the icon will produce an adage. To make it disappear slowly double click the icon. The speed will depend on the speed of your computer and you can change the timing by modifying the sleep statements in the code. I wrote it like that because I only wanted 1 button to work the whole thing and didn't want to have to click twice to see a new fortune (i.e. simple on/off toggle). You might like a different color or font or place it differently on screen. If you want to tweak it, suggest you read the osd_cat manual page. Some people might prefer the aosd-cat package to do the showing. It has entirely different syntax so it's not a drop in replacement but has fancier options like fadeouts and transparency. The 64x64 indexed color icon is a derivative of this work by Lisa Williams http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisawilliams/2395943379/sizes/o/ The script probably is way too simple to get copyright but to make sure, I hereby place it into the public domain. Yes, I obviously have too much spare time! Now, what did I miss or do in a particularly funny way? attachment: preview.pngattachment: icon.png# displays fortunes on X, in public domain #!/bin/sh #quick re-click closes, slow click shows new adage #check if the timing file exists if [ -e /tmp/killfortune ]; then #if it does, shutdown pkill -f osd_cat -O2 -d0 -Acenterexit else #if the file doesn't exist, make it touch /tmp/killfortune #if this specific center osd_cat is running, kill it pgrep -f osd_cat -O2 -d0 -Acenter/dev/nullpkill -f osd_cat -O2 -d0 -Acenter #store a fortune to a file fortune /tmp/frtn #check it's not too many lines (10) to display comfortably until [ `cat /tmp/frtn|wc -l` -lt 10 ];do fortune/tmp/frtn done sleep 0.1 #display a fortune cat /tmp/frtn|osd_cat -O2 -d0 -Acenter -f-*-bitstream charter-*-*-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-* -cwhite -pmiddle -l10 #remove the timing file after a short while sleep 0.5 rm -f /tmp/killfortune fi
[Trisquel-users] Re : Fortune cookie dispenser
Trisquel's server forbids us (at least me) to access your script: You don't have permission to access /files/fortunes_osd.sh on this server.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Fortune cookie dispenser
Yeah, looks like it for me too. I'll file a bug. https://trisquel.info/en/issues/8153 I've attached a compressed version.
[Trisquel-users] Re : Fortune cookie dispenser
In GNOME Shell (at least), you can type free the fish in the search field of the overview mode. ;-) Of course, you need to have some fortunes installed (from the package manager).
Re: [Trisquel-users] Fortune cookie dispenser
I'd have to teach me JS first. :)
[Trisquel-users] Mate
Hi. Currently running Trisquel on all my systems at the moment. In Synaptic, I noticed that KDE, XFCE, and even Enlightenment were available, but not Mate. Are there any plans to add Mate to the repositories?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 4.0 5.5 reach End of Life on May 9 2013
The netbook does not have nvidia graphics. The laptop does not seem to have nvidia graphics card other at least I have not installed third party software. Tried the main server same problem. I do not know how to disable the on-board graphics. Thanks for your help. Please let me know anything else I can try.
Re: [Trisquel-users] nVidia GT9500-Toutatis
I just upgraded to the 3.5 kernel and the cursor is moving smoothly! Thanks for the suggestion guys.
[Trisquel-users] Mumble conection to server issues Toutatis
Hi I'm having problems connecting to servers with Mumble. I have installed Mumble by standar Trisquel add get applications. Sometimes I get succesfull connecting, but almost 99% of attemps the application hangs up. I'm suspecting certificate or ssl issues, because usually Mumble have an option to autogenerate certificates, but using GNU it seems is not available to select it. However I think maybe is a short of ip mac network problem. I'm trying to renew my IP via modem restart. But can't connect. Using Mumble primitive 1xx mode under 4wine it seems to be best way to find some info. But the info it points is very strange because they are suggesting me to port from a bonjour component from apple to another that is more gnu liked. The problem here is the direct sound that I can not receive, but they can hear me. Well, when I recently received this old PC, first I unistalled all apple products from windows, now I know that Trisquel is a good GNU, I'm thinking in to remove all windows completely. But the problem I get using Mumble 4wine is not the same, as the one I get using from gnu repos. That is more related with this one with Brigantia. https://trisquel.info/es/forum/mumble-wont-connect-servers-brigantia Please if any of our hackers of honor could check it I'll be very gratefull. Here there is an adress for a server (mumble button (add new). dacer.homeip.net port default, your nick, no psswd needed. Avoid disturb users, however they can help you to confirm connection. Also I wish to know how to renew ip via terminal, any idea for a newbie. Thanks in advance.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Not getting the ability to upgrade
My package manager shows the option to upgrade, but after downloading the tools, I always get an authentication failure message and nothing proceeds. I am running 64-bit 5.5 on an Asus Eee 1015.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Mate
Are there any plans to add Mate to the repositories? Are you offering to take on maintaining it?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Missing Free firware (benign?) error message
Don't worry about them; they're just the Linux-libre kernel telling you that it can't load a free firmware or that the non-free firmware in the kernel was removed (since the kernel is deblobbed). I get messages like that every time I boot up my computer, running Parabola GNU/Linux with the latest Linux-libre: [3.993987] :0c:00.0: Missing Free firmware [3.994720] r8169 :0c:00.0 eth0: unable to load firmware patch /*(DEBLOBBED)*/ (-22) [4.004150] r8169 :0c:00.0 eth0: link down [4.004184] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready [4.004304] :0d:00.0: Missing Free firmware [4.004591] r8169 :0d:00.0 eth1: unable to load firmware patch /*(DEBLOBBED)*/ (-22) [4.016114] r8169 :0d:00.0 eth1: link down [4.016146] r8169 :0d:00.0 eth1: link down [4.016159] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready [4.106366] vboxpci: IOMMU not found (not registered) [5.668575] r8169 :0d:00.0 eth1: link up [5.668586] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth1: link becomes ready
[Trisquel-users] Synaptic - Seamonkey
I was curious. Mozilla Firefox is not considered free software because it has some proprietary things concerning logos, correct? I would assume this was true also for Mozilla Seamonkey? I am asking because frankly I despise Firefox-type browsers. I like Seamonkey and all it has to offer, built-in e-mail for one. Are there any truly free alternatives to Seamonkey (if it isn't free itself) Also, why does Firefox come up in the Synaptic Repository if it is not free? Thank YOu, Grimlok
Re: [Trisquel-users] Synaptic - Seamonkey
I was curious. Mozilla Firefox is not considered free software because it has some proprietary things concerning logos, correct? Yes, it is the trademark policy that is problematic: https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/gnu-linux-libre/2011-08/msg00014.html https://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html Mozilla previously had non-free copyright licensing on their logos, but that was fixed a few years ago. I would assume this was true also for Mozilla Seamonkey? I am asking because frankly I despise Firefox-type browsers. I like Seamonkey and all it has to offer, built-in e-mail for one. Yes, I believe so: https://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/list.html Are there any truly free alternatives to Seamonkey (if it isn't free itself) There is Iceape on Debian, but it still /recommends/ proprietary software through the extension manager. For Trisquel, there aren't any at the moment. Also, why does Firefox come up in the Synaptic Repository if it is not free? It is a package which installed Abrowser, the patched unbranded copy of Firefox with some other modifications. For example, it doesn't recommend proprietary software. Andrew.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Synaptic - Seamonkey
superbyel...@yahoo.com wrote .. I was curious. Mozilla Firefox is not considered free software because it has some proprietary things concerning logos, correct? I would assume this was true also for Mozilla Seamonkey? I am asking because frankly I despise Firefox-type browsers. I like Seamonkey and all it has to offer, built-in e-mail for one. The Mozilla trademark policy is problematic and it doesn't apply to just Firefox. http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/gnu-linux-libre/2011-08/msg00014.html Are there any truly free alternatives to Seamonkey (if it isn't free itself) Not that I know of. Also, why does Firefox come up in the Synaptic Repository if it is not free? It doesn't. What Trisquel has is modified version called A Browser.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Synaptic - Seamonkey
Como hago para no recibir más mensajes de este grupo, ya no soy usuario de Trisquel. Gracias. El 19/04/2013 20:48, Andrew Roffey andrew.rof...@connect.qut.edu.au escribió: I was curious. Mozilla Firefox is not considered free software because it has some proprietary things concerning logos, correct? Yes, it is the trademark policy that is problematic: https://lists.nongnu.org/**archive/html/gnu-linux-libre/** 2011-08/msg00014.htmlhttps://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/gnu-linux-libre/2011-08/msg00014.html https://www.mozilla.org/**foundation/trademarks/policy.**htmlhttps://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html Mozilla previously had non-free copyright licensing on their logos, but that was fixed a few years ago. I would assume this was true also for Mozilla Seamonkey? I am asking because frankly I despise Firefox-type browsers. I like Seamonkey and all it has to offer, built-in e-mail for one. Yes, I believe so: https://www.mozilla.org/**foundation/trademarks/list.**htmlhttps://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/list.html Are there any truly free alternatives to Seamonkey (if it isn't free itself) There is Iceape on Debian, but it still /recommends/ proprietary software through the extension manager. For Trisquel, there aren't any at the moment. Also, why does Firefox come up in the Synaptic Repository if it is not free? It is a package which installed Abrowser, the patched unbranded copy of Firefox with some other modifications. For example, it doesn't recommend proprietary software. Andrew.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Synaptic - Seamonkey
On 20/04/13 12:12, Hugo Alberto Martínez Sierra wrote: Como hago para no recibir más mensajes de este grupo, ya no soy usuario de Trisquel. Gracias. (I translated using Google Translate): How do I stop receiving messages from this group, I'm not user of Trisquel See this page: http://listas.trisquel.info/mailman/listinfo/trisquel-users Or contact Ruben, the administrator: https://trisquel.info/en/contact Andrew.
[Trisquel-users] Re : Not getting the ability to upgrade
Have you tried changing your Software Source (to the main server for example)?
[Trisquel-users] Re : Synaptic - Seamonkey
As far as I know Firefox entirely is free software... but it recommends proprietary software (plugins and extensions). Trisquel modifies Firefox to make it not recommend proprietary software. Mozilla's trademark forces the names and the logos of any modified version to be different from those of Mozilla (Mozilla wants a legal leverage in case of malware-infected versions of its software circulating under its branding).
Re: [Trisquel-users] Synaptic - Seamonkey
Hey Magic Banana, That's not the only thing that Mozilla's trademark policy says. It also says that, as long as the Mozilla trademark stuff is included, it must be distributed without charge. The requirement to rename a modified version is fine, according to the FSF, but Mozilla's trademark policy goes too far, according to the FSF, making Mozilla-branded software non-free through their trademark policy -- Not the software license: Unfortunately, such a restriction in a trademark license does make the software nonfree. As we've said in the past, a requirement that you rename the software when you modify it is fine -- but a requirement that you rename it before you distribute it commercially goes too far. Changing the name of a program should be straightforward enough for anybody who modifies the software (and if it isn't, that can be problematic too); the same isn't true for people who simply want to distribute it.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Synaptic - Seamonkey
It's not enough to ask if you have the four freedoms or not. There's more. To quote from the Free Software Definition: Free software does not mean noncommercial. A free program must be available for commercial use, commercial development, and commercial distribution. Commercial development of free software is no longer unusual; such free commercial software is very important. You may have paid money to get copies of free software, or you may have obtained copies at no charge. But regardless of how you got your copies, you always have the freedom to copy and change the software, even to sell copies. Therefore, in order for a program to be free, the user must be able to exercise all four freedoms on a commercial or non-commercial basis. Mozilla's trademark policy forbids the user from exercising freedom #2 on a commercial basis, rendering the Mozilla-branded version of the software non-free. Of course, someone can always rebrand the software and get out of this (like Trisquel does) and anyone that is in possession of this modified version does have a free program but the Mozilla-branded version still has that problem.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Spam-Bot Exploiting My Email -- Please HELP
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Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 4.0 5.5 reach End of Life on May 9 2013
What are your sources? cat /etc/apt/sources.list
Re: [Trisquel-users] Error Upgrading Trisquel 5.5 to Trisquel 6.0
Did you manage to upgrade?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Remaining issues in Trisquel 6.0
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Re: [Trisquel-users] Login issue with Toutatis?
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Re: [Trisquel-users] On the conversion of a Macbook Pro
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Re: [Trisquel-users] Not getting the ability to upgrade
What are your sources? cat /etc/apt/sources.list
Re: [Trisquel-users] Intel Release Graphical Installer for Their GNU/Linux Drivers
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Re: [Trisquel-users] Accessibility of Trisquel 6 Live Images?
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Re: [Trisquel-users] Real-time audio spectrum analyzer
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