Re: [Trisquel-users] /home does not mount after suspend

2014-01-24 Thread mikko . viinamaki
You could also write custom suspend scripts to unmount before suspending and  
mount after. Dunno if the fact we're talking about /home makes any  
difference.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Libusb version

2014-01-24 Thread mikko . viinamaki

The reason is simply Trisquel 6 is based on Ubuntu 12.04.

You can see if upstream versions are still free software and if the present  
libraries are new enough to run them. (Note that if you manually install  
something outside the package manager, it will not get automatic updates.)


Re: [Trisquel-users] ARM support

2014-01-24 Thread gromobir

Beaglebone Black is not free last time I checked.
According to the FSF it is partially:  
https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/single-board-computers

I'm not planning to use the GPU and video decoding.

Have you seen this thread? [...]
Yes, but their best product seems to be the following:  
https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/iMX233/iMX233-OLinuXino-MAXI/open-source-hardware


454 Mhz and 64 MB RAM are not really sufficient for web browsing.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to Change Default Main Menu In Trisquel6?

2014-01-24 Thread dadix
You may install Mate-Desktop 1.4 and Tilo-menu 0.2 (which is a fork of  
GnoMenu to Mate).

MAte 1.4 here: http://forums.mate-desktop.org/viewtopic.php?f=6t=1622
I made a orb for this also:  
http://trisquel.info/en/forum/trisquel-orb-tilo-menu-or-gnomenu


Re: [Trisquel-users] Graphics

2014-01-24 Thread adfenohuvlov

This is very good.

If you have any other questions, don't hesitate to ask.

Best regards, ADFENO.
Have a nice day.


[Trisquel-users] Touchpad click not working with other DE than gnome

2014-01-24 Thread shiretoko
Using the gnome shell I can push the touchpad in order to perform a click  
with the mouse.

This doesn't work when I'm using awesome or i3.
I read the synaptics manual and as far as I understood I'm supposed to write  
the options into the xorg.conf.
I'm not quite sure but I think the xorg.conf is no longer used or gets  
created automatically or something like that. Whenever I tried to change  
something in this file on newer systems the result was very bad so I'd rather  
not do it.


But how can I fix this problem without xorg.conf?


[Trisquel-users] How to make nitrogen load a wallpaper on startup silently

2014-01-24 Thread shiretoko

Hey guys,
I'm experimenting at the moment with some minimalistic tiling window manager  
such as i3 or awesome.
In order to have a nice look I have to start nitrogen after I booted the pc  
and set the wallpaper manually, and that's pretty annoying.


As far as I read in the manual nitrogen will set the wallpaper silently if I  
use nitrogen --restore, but I have to write this command in a file which  
loads commands on startup.


Which file is this
a) for normal user commands
b) for root user commands?

Thanks for your help.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to make nitrogen load a wallpaper on startup silently

2014-01-24 Thread holger . beetz

Try either .bash_profile or .bashrc


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to make nitrogen load a wallpaper on startup silently

2014-01-24 Thread mikko . viinamaki
For any command that needs to be run as root, you'll need to fiddle with the  
scripts in /etc/rc2.d/


(as the default runlevel is 2)

It's quite complex but you can get a dirty hack going...


Re: [Trisquel-users] ARM support

2014-01-24 Thread nowaman
450MHz will do just fine with software less sucky. Such software ain't that  
well known, though, finding and using them requires some dedication and  
willing to take an extra mile.


I have a 500MHz @ 192MB which will run netsurf / midori (web), sylpheed  
(mail) and canto (feeds) very happily. Programming C / ncurses / python with  
geany, pictures with geeqie, calendar with orage. pdf's with xpdf or mupdf,  
Desktop with dwm, jwm, fluxbox or iceWM works great without all the clutter.  
It is swappy though, so some kind of external storage (nfs/nbd?) for  
disk+swap would be handy.


Flash is out of the game, and so is most of the javast. One could play  
flash with vlc / mplayer once the file is local, though I haven't found a  
good solution yet. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to make nitrogen load a wallpaper on startup silently

2014-01-24 Thread George Standish
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 03:16:15PM +0100, shiret...@web.de wrote:

 Which file is this
 a) for normal user commands
 b) for root user commands?

re a) create a ~/.xsession file with at least two lines, nitrogen --replace  
(or whatever you need), then a second line exec YOUR_WM_HERE

re b) don't load Xorg as root!

good luck.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to make nitrogen load a wallpaper on startup silently

2014-01-24 Thread george . standish

NO!


Re: [Trisquel-users] /home does not mount after suspend

2014-01-24 Thread Andresmp
I think if I unmount and have the system logged out I will not be able to log  
in. Since the password is kept in /home , right?


Re: [Trisquel-users] ARM support

2014-01-24 Thread gramex

The A10 has 512 MB of RAM and a 1 GHz CPU[1], the A13 has similar specs[2].

[1]  
https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/A10/A10-OLinuXino-LIME/open-source-hardware


[2]  
https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/A10/A10-OLinuXino-LIME/open-source-hardware


Re: [Trisquel-users] ARM support

2014-01-24 Thread gromobir
@ssdclickofdeath: Thank you, I just didn't see that. So the best board  
available should be this one:  
https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/A20/A20-OLinuXino-MICRO-4GB/open-source-hardware


@Telstar: Wow, I still would like to be able to use the machine. 500MHz @  
192MB really seems to be a bit... bad. ;-)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Migration from Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy) to Trisquel 6.0 (Toutatis)

2014-01-24 Thread hi
And after they capture the open source movements , they try to re-brand ,  
update their products in the markets screening the Original and try to make  
their business firm does the best for customers , not the original open  
source community which lies behind the screen at core.


!!! Freedom Matters !!!
--
Kesavan Muthuvel
kesavan.info


[Trisquel-users] Antwort: How to make nitrogen load a wallpaper on startup silently

2014-01-24 Thread holger . beetz

Oh yeah, my badboth files are only called when you log in at a shell.
I had it wrong in mind. Writing a simple NO as answer on the other hand is  
neither polite, nor very helpful though.







Re: [Trisquel-users] /home does not mount after suspend

2014-01-24 Thread dhunt
Your password is not kept in /home.  If you try to login, and /home is not  
mounted, your desktop can't be shown; its configurations are in ~  


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel orb for Tilo-Menu or GnoMenu

2014-01-24 Thread retro

Looks good, but I'm not using Mate so I haven't tried it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Libusb version

2014-01-24 Thread retro

Thank you.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Computer not booting properly

2014-01-24 Thread LDrumbler

HEEELP!

I removed all of the other kernels I had and reinstalled the working 3.2.0-38  
one. But when I rebooted into GRUB, I couldn't edit the boot options. I  
booted anyways.


My system is now unbootable!


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to make nitrogen load a wallpaper on startup silently

2014-01-24 Thread george . standish

sorry.  you're right - it wasn't polite or helpful.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to make nitrogen load a wallpaper on startup silently

2014-01-24 Thread mikko . viinamaki
On the other hand adding fortune to ~/.bashrc is one of the best ideas I've  
ever had. :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to make nitrogen load a wallpaper on startup silently

2014-01-24 Thread george . standish
fortune is fine, 'cause it's a text application.  you don't want Xorg stuff  
running from a .bashrc (in case you aren't actually in Xorg)


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to make nitrogen load a wallpaper on startup silently

2014-01-24 Thread mikko . viinamaki

Yes and you don't need to run it every time you pop up a terminal window.


[Trisquel-users] [OT] Speaking of fully-free open hardware

2014-01-24 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
Would this meet the Respects your Freedom certification from the FSF?

http://makeplaylive.com/#/open-hardware/improv/discover
http://makeplaylive.com/#/open-hardware/about

It's available for U$75 pre-order.

A bit of background:
https://dot.kde.org/2014/01/22/open-hardware-kde

F.



Re: [Trisquel-users] Computer not booting properly

2014-01-24 Thread antiesnob

I'm here to help you.

Trisquel secures grub by default making an user and a random password for it.  
To know the password execute: $ cat  /etc/grub.d/01_PASSWORD

Also, you can edit the file and comment it to set no user and no password.
The username is grub.


[Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of the last proprietary component of my OS, the b43 driver

2014-01-24 Thread franparpe
Greetings Ladies and gentlemen, I use Dabian as my primary OS and I'm sick of  
the Brodcom wifi card, It is a painful limitation.


I was trying to make experiments and tryed to change the debian kernel and  
every time I switch the core, I have to reinstall and load the b43 f** driver  
again and again. It caused me a lot of problems not only in Debian but in  
every distribution I tried. I had enough, no more please.


I was also removing propietary components one by one and replacing them for  
the Libre alternatives and now b43 is the only user subjugating software that  
I have. It is a pain in the ass.


I know the solution, buying and usb wifi adapter from thinkpenguin... and  
here comes the question:


Which one I buy? There are some models and sadly I don't apreciate the  
difference between them.


Would you mind to help me select the best option for me?

I'm using a laptop.

Thank you.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of the last proprietary component of my OS, the b43 driver

2014-01-24 Thread silvibus

I use this one, and it works perfectly.


[Trisquel-users] Disabling services that are controlled by upstart jobs?

2014-01-24 Thread dhunt
Using the 'service' command, the 'disable' operation is not allowed for  
upstart jobs.  Does this mean the only way to disable such a service is to  
move its '.conf' file out of '/etc/init'?  


[Trisquel-users] Re : Help me get rid of the last proprietary component of my OS, the b43 driver

2014-01-24 Thread mtlben
I replaced my laptop's Intel Wireless card (which requires non-free firmware)  
by the following card, purchased on eBay for 10 bucks:


Atheros AR5B95 AR9285 802.11B/G/N Half Mini PCI-E Card

Works like a charm with Trisquel 6.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of the last proprietary component of my OS, the b43 driver

2014-01-24 Thread franparpe

THank you.

Will it work like the integrated cards?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of the last proprietary component of my OS, the b43 driver

2014-01-24 Thread franparpe
I didn't consider that option because I thought you could not change the  
hardware components iof a laptop.


I'm a complete newbie in hardware manipulation so:
Could you provide me with a link or recommend me a book that would help me  
teaching myself to assemble and desassemble laptops?


Thank you.

I will compare prices and performance of the options you gave me before  
making a choice.


Thank you again.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of the last proprietary component of my OS, the b43 driver

2014-01-24 Thread onpon4
The main differences are how fast they are, how big they are, what their  
range is, what version of Linux they need, and what they plug into. Some of  
the newer ones can work with old versions of Linux, but because the necessary  
firmware was proprietary until recently, you need to add on the firmware if  
you're using a deblobbed kernel.


If you want the least hassle, my guess is the Wireless G USB adapter would be  
your best bet. It's the slowest out of the USB adapters; whether this matters  
depends on how fast your Internet connection is, of course. TP says all the  
other USB adapters currently need additional free firmware to work on Debian  
7, Trisquel 6, and a few others.


For non-USB ones, you need to figure out what kind of slot you have and get  
an appropriate one, choosing based on what size, speed, and range you need.  
There's a guide for the slots on the ThinkPenguin site here:


https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/mini-pci-mini-pci-e-mini-pci-e-half-height-guide-laptop-wifi-cards

You need to watch out for digital restriction mechanisms as well; apparently  
some computers use restriction mechanisms to prevent you from using approved  
cards. The ThinkPenguin site says you can return or exchange the adapter if  
it turns out your computer is defective by design, so you can try it with no  
worries and get a USB adapter instead if it turns out it doesn't work; but if  
you don't want to deal with that, you might want to just get a USB adapter.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of the last proprietary component of my OS, the b43 driver

2014-01-24 Thread Bader Zaidan
The last time I checked, it isn't the driver that isn't free (b43),
it's the firmware. I heard that it is possible to use the openfwwf
firmware with the b43 driver.

It's available in the trisquel repositories:

http://packages.trisquel.info/toutatis/openfwwf

You can get more info here:

http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#firmware
http://www.ing.unibs.it/~openfwwf/


Re: [Trisquel-users] Touchpad click not working with other DE than gnome

2014-01-24 Thread shiretoko

Another puzzle solved:
The command synaptikscfg init
does the job.

I really don't know why there's a program called synclient mentioned in the  
man page of synaptics (with c) but also a program called synaptiks with k and  
the according synaptikscfg.
All of them seem to deal with touchpad functionality and have very similar  
names. Pretty confusing.
 


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to make nitrogen load a wallpaper on startup silently

2014-01-24 Thread shiretoko

Thank you guys, I created the .xinit and will post later if it's working.

Every attempt to help is appreciated and of course everybody can confuse  
things from time to time, so let's be nice to each other.

Thanks to all!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Disabling services that are controlled by upstart jobs?

2014-01-24 Thread mampir

The way you're meant to disable Upstart services is like this, in a terminal:

echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/ssh.override

Basically, to disable a service with a config file named ssh.conf, you make a  
plain text file named ssh.override with the word manual.


This is what I do when I install Trisquel:


echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/cups.override
echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/smbd.override
echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/ssh.override
sudo stop cups
sudo stop smbd
sudo stop ssh



Re: [Trisquel-users] Disabling services that are controlled by upstart jobs?

2014-01-24 Thread George Standish
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:02:48PM +0100, dh...@freedommail.co wrote:
 Using the 'service' command, the 'disable' operation is not allowed
 for upstart jobs.  Does this mean the only way to disable such a
 service is to move its '.conf' file out of '/etc/init'?

i'd just rename the script(s) in /etc/init to foo.conf.disabled (there are no 
tools for upstart).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Computer not booting properly

2014-01-24 Thread LDrumbler
Where am I supposed to enter that command? Pressing c in GRUB requires the  
username and password, and on the live CD (from which I'm posting this) I get  
permission denied for that file.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Disabling services that are controlled by upstart jobs?

2014-01-24 Thread dhunt
Thanks; I have two ways to do this without removing any init files. I may  
want to restore this setup to its factory default.  


Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of the last proprietary component of my OS, the b43 driver

2014-01-24 Thread mampir
On many laptops you can change the WiFi card. On some you can't because of  
digital restrictions or because the original WiFi is non-typical. What I  
would do is try and see if it works.


I've changed the WiFi of 4 different laptops and it worked for all of them. I  
buy WiFi cards from computer repair shops, because they always have second  
hand WiFi cards. For two of the laptops, I went with them to the repair shop.  
I disassembled the laptop there and tried their second hand WiFi cards before  
buying. I also gave them the original WiFi, so they sold me the new WiFi very  
cheap for around $3.


About the disassembling. You don't need a book, if there are even such books.  
It's not that complicated. Usually, all you need is a small Phillips screw  
driver.[1]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_screw_drives#Phillips

Then unplug your laptop from any electricity, remove the battery and start  
unscrewing screws, usually starting from the bottom of the laptop. Remember  
where the unscrewed screws were from, since there may be many of them! :)  I  
have a way of organizing the screws so I can remember where they were from.


Different laptops are disassembled in different ways. Watch some videos of  
people disassembling laptops. There may be even disassembling videos of your  
laptop model. Sometimes you can find an official disassembling guide for you  
laptop.


If you are worried about breaking you laptop, try disassembling a cheaper or  
non-working laptop. It is possible to break you laptop, if you're not  
careful. :)


Also, if you want try a WiFi card in a shop like me, make sure you can  
disassemble and test the new WiFi fast, so you don't waste people's time and  
get in the way. Figure out how to disassemble the laptop at home, before  
going to the shop. :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Computer not booting properly

2014-01-24 Thread antiesnob
Try changing permissions of the file (may it's owner too). Then you'll get  
your password.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Computer not booting properly

2014-01-24 Thread LDrumbler
I proudly post this from my freshly booted system! Your explanation of how to  
find the password, combined with help from the users here, allowed me to boot  
correctly.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Computer not booting properly

2014-01-24 Thread antiesnob

Remember to change permissions back to its original form.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Text to speech

2014-01-24 Thread gnuser

Thanks for the clarification.
When it happens maybe we could have a message appearing to let people know  
that the comment was removed because it was spam? Or something like that, to  
make it less confusing.

I was really confused by not finding the new comment :P


Re: [Trisquel-users] Delhi government to move to free software

2014-01-24 Thread gnuser
Those are good news, I had read about Munich moving to free software and it  
was a great thing to read. I hope Delhi makes it a little bit faster though  
:P


[Trisquel-users] Re : Help me get rid of the last proprietary component of my OS, the b43 driver

2014-01-24 Thread magicbanana
As far as I understand, there is no need to update the kernel anymore. It  
used to be useful to get this adapter working on the latest Trisquel.  
However, the package open-ath9k-htc-firmware has made into its repository.  
trisquel-base even depends on it. So if you still have that meta-package  
installed (the case unless you removed some system package that were  
installed by default), open-ath9k-htc-firmware already is installed, waiting  
for the adapter to be plugged. :-)


Opting for an internal card, hoping the laptop is not defective by design  
(what is the brand?), the half-height mini PCIe model is the answer. It is  
the smallest (but would work in a laptop that accepts a full-height mini  
PCIe card), the fastest (that basically the N means!) and the cheapest one!  
Mini PCI (without the e) are for pretty old laptops (before 2005).


[Trisquel-users] Re : Touchpad click not working with other DE than gnome

2014-01-24 Thread magicbanana
If you only add the sections where you do not want the defaults (and let Xorg  
use its defaults for the rest), there should not be any issue. If  
/etc/X11/xorg.conf does not exist on your system, you can create it. You  
obviously need the administrative privileges to create/modify that file. For  
instance, using the GEdit text editor:

$ gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf

You may find this documentation useful.


[Trisquel-users] Display Resolution Problem on Toshiba Sat L830

2014-01-24 Thread j323

Display Resolution Problem on Toshiba Sat L830

Guys, I'm new to Linux  non-technical. After looking into alternatives to  
MicroNSF/Windoze I decided on Trisquel on principle. I fully realise that,  
based on popular Ubuntu, its probably already back-doored.


I managed to get my head around Virtual Box  ran Trisquel in it for a few  
months to familiarise myself  only fully installed recently. I had no idea  
certain things might not work with a full install.


Wireless is now ok. I have a 13” Toshiba Sat L830, with 16:9 screen, which  
Trisq can't seem to connect to. The default 4:3 is unworkable – everything  
elongated.
Also, Brightness settings work, but screen is not as bright, on max setting,  
as before.


Is there an easy way around this?

Alternatively, if the solution is very technical, could someone detail the  
process for me so, if stuck, I could at least take the info to a computer  
shop  get it done . . .


Any help appreciated.

I tried Linux Mint with no problems + screen was brighter, however, I would  
much prefer to use FSF endorsed Trisquel  support those I consider to be  
good guys.


Would be great if Trisquel could get to the point where it worked more  
seemlessly out of the box for non-technical users like myself. This would  
mean a much greater uptake, more donations and, ultimately, far more demand  
for non-compromised hardware.
 


[Trisquel-users] Re : which law(s) prohibit people from circumventing proprietary formats?

2014-01-24 Thread magicbanana
In the European Union, that directive, which notably prevents to circumvent  
DRMs, got called 


[Trisquel-users] Re : Display Resolution Problem on Toshiba Sat L830

2014-01-24 Thread magicbanana
If there is a backdoor in Ubuntu, it very probably is implemented in the  
proprietary software that distribution includes. Trisquel is 100% free  
software. You can read all the code. And everybody else can. Nothing  
proprietary is imported from Ubuntu: only free software.


Aren't there any other resolution proposed in the Display utility you can  
find in the System Settings? What is you video card?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of the last proprietary component of my OS, the b43 driver

2014-01-24 Thread nowaman
If you decide to replace the internal WiFi, take a lot of patience and do NOT  
use the force. Sometimes you can find a hardware maintenance manual for your  
laptop, giving you step-by-step instructions for taking it apart (and  
replacing the WiFi). If you cant, well, some laptops have it placed under one  
lid on the bottom, but some have it placed inside, somewhere under the  
keyboard or handrest. If you don't know what youre doing but are willing to  
experience, I suggest take too many pictures of each step, so you can put it  
back together again - and again, don't use the force.