Re: [Trisquel-users] Ubuntu 15.10 and above moving to Snappy instead of DEB. What will the Trisquel team do?

2015-04-24 Thread shiretoko
Maybe this snappy itself will be free software, but it can isolate the  
ubuntu-ecosystem even more, which might get filled up with proprietary  
software;

trisquel could end up in a bad position that way.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Italian forum for Trisquel: is anyone interested?

2015-04-24 Thread no-email

Lembas! It's the old romanian forum?!?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Italian forum for Trisquel: is anyone interested?

2015-04-24 Thread maestro

lenbas you old taco with churros! :P


Re: [Trisquel-users] Ubuntu 15.10 and above moving to Snappy instead of DEB. What will the Trisquel team do?

2015-04-24 Thread franparpe
None of the FAQ make reference to Snappy being proprietary nor Free nor Open  
source. I hope snappy will be, at least, open source: Ubuntu cannot provide a  
better system without Debian. The work Debian does is so titanic that there  
is no company that can match it so moving away from Debian is a poor  
decision. Having that in mind, I think the new package management system  
should be related to DEB somehow.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Is anyone here from China?

2015-04-24 Thread myself600

Anyone, please?


Re: [Trisquel-users] vpnbook.com - A free VPN service

2015-04-24 Thread gnuser

Hello,

Privacy by policy is no privacy at all.
First, no one is going to jail because of your privacy, even less when you  
are using a free service and not paying them. So, even if the people behind  
the project are honest, they still have to comply with the law. They log your  
IP and connection duration so they have enough information for the government  
or anyone else to burn you.
Second, most of these people are not honest, they actually make profiles  
based on watching your browsing and sell those to companies and governments.
If you want to have priacy, use Tor, I2P, or other decentralized community  
based service.


Now, having said that... if you can't use Tor or I2P (for whatever reason)  
and want to make it so your ISP can't watch your connection, use a VPN yes,  
it's better than nothing, but seriously don't think that you are safe... you  
are not. You are ONLY hiding from your ISP. NO ONE ELSE!!


[Trisquel-users] Re : New to Trisquel :)

2015-04-24 Thread mattpub

I use my computer for multimedia editing :)

I does seem as it's loading each time I type in a letter, and its annoying as  
I need to type everything in the other way round.


got a new problem now, and haven't found anything really helpful about it,  
the ./configure command says command not found.

I am running TRisquel 7, why can't I unpack and install .tat.gz files ?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Is anyone here from China?

2015-04-24 Thread myself600
 Isn't the transfer speed much too low in order to actually use 30 tb of  
space?


How can I know if I doesn't get the chance to test their service? Last night  
I tested Baidu Pan, and the upload speed (using BCloud) was ~180kB/s, while  
the download (using JDownloader) was 1-2MB/s. However, as of today both  
speeds are terribly slow.


 That said, you're encryption scheme might be safe today; but who can  
predict how things are going to develop in, let's say, 20 years?


I'm mainly going to upload data that doesn't need security such as movies, tv  
series, and various other things that takes a lot of space but otherwise  
isn't too valuable. I originally intended to create a cloud storage that I  
can mount via Files as a virtual drive, format it as an encrypted filesystem,  
and use it as an additional storage. Now I see that this isn't possible and  
there's no universal free software client that can encrypt my data on-the-fly  
without syncing it first.


http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/173108-researchers-crack-the-worlds-toughest-encryption-by-listening-to-the-tiny-sounds-made-by-your-computers-cpu

 What computional power will those companies have by then?

Quantum computers, maybe?

http://venturebeat.com/2014/01/03/the-nsa-is-racing-to-build-a-quantum-computer-capable-of-cracking-strong-encryption/

 Once uploaded, you can never take your data back for sure.

Yep, I learned this from Facebook.



Re: [Trisquel-users] is Laptop Ibm X60 Mini Tablet supported by libreboot?

2015-04-24 Thread dooleyn
I can't recommend GLUGLUG highly enough. I purchased one of the X60s laptops  
soon after GLUGLUG was launched (I like to think it was one fo the first :))  
and the level of service has been top notch ever since. Since that time they  
have expanded the supported hardware list and have provided gratis updates to  
libreboot for my X60s machine and the other supported machines.


The please ask before ordering statement you highlight demonstrates this.  
They are asking you to contact them before placing any order to ensure the  
service they offer is what you need for your machine. This ensures you don't  
pay for something that is not what you want or need. This demonstrates  
respect to you as a potential customer. Remember also, GLUGLUG is affiliated  
with the Libreboot project and so they don't even expect you to purchase one  
of their machines. They can install Libreboot for you on a machine you buy  
separtely. Another denmonstration of their level of service.


Even if you drop into their irc channel #libreboot, they will be more than  
willingly to assist you in your own efforts. This has been my experience at  
least.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Plasma 5

2015-04-24 Thread davesamcdxv

https://launchpad.net/~neon/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=trusty ?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Plasma 5

2015-04-24 Thread legimet . calc
It will be in the repos of Trisquel 8, not 7. Why not compile from source,  
though? It shouldn't be that hard.


Re: [Trisquel-users] vpnbook.com - A free VPN service

2015-04-24 Thread maestro

this depends on da vpn u use..


Re: [Trisquel-users] Librebooted Macbook 2,1

2015-04-24 Thread tomlukeywood

Youtube worked well using html5
it may run faster using this method
as no js needed
https://goblinrefuge.com/mediagoblin/u/onpon4/m/tutorial-bypassing-youtube-javascript-requirements/


Re: [Trisquel-users] Librebooted Macbook 2,1

2015-04-24 Thread tomlukeywood
it would be a good feature to be-able to delete posts you made less than 2  
mins ago


Re: [Trisquel-users] A repository for Free Javascript?

2015-04-24 Thread nicolasmaia

Can't these programs be hosted on Savannah?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Librebooted Macbook 2,1

2015-04-24 Thread nicolasmaia
Thanks a lot for your input! I was thinking of writing some documentation for  
the trinquel.info wiki about running Trisquel on Macbook, based on the stuff  
you informed us, but I don't know if it would be acceptable due to Macbook  
being an Apple product.


What do you folks think?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Security Updates

2015-04-24 Thread amenex

Still seems broken:

sudo apt-get upgrade --fix-missing
[sudo] password for XX:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  apt linux-headers-lowlatency linux-image-lowlatency linux-lowlatency
The following packages will be upgraded:
  gir1.2-gudev-1.0 icecat-locale-en indicator-session libgudev-1.0-0
  libpam-systemd libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-backend-1-0
  libpolkit-gobject-1-0 libsystemd-daemon0 libsystemd-journal0
  libsystemd-login0 libtasn1-6 libtasn1-6:i386 libudev1 libudev1:i386  
libxext6

  libxext6:i386 libxfixes3 libxfixes3:i386 libxi6 libxi6:i386 libxrender1
  libxrender1:i386 ntpdate openjdk-7-jre openjdk-7-jre-headless patch
  policykit-1 python-urllib3 systemd-services trisquel trisquel-base
  trisquel-base-recommended trisquel-codecs trisquel-desktop-common
  trisquel-desktop-common-recommended trisquel-gnome-base-recommended
  trisquel-minimal trisquel-recommended tzdata tzdata-java udev wpasupplicant
43 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
Need to get 43.3 MB of archives.
After this operation, 27.6 kB disk space will be freed.

Result: many lines like the following three ...

E: Failed to fetch  
http://us.archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/pool/main/t/trisquel-meta/trisquel-gnome-base-recommended_7.0-38_all.deb  
 404  Not Found [IP: 140.186.70.52 80]


E: Failed to fetch  
http://us.archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/pool/main/t/trisquel-meta/trisquel-recommended_7.0-38_all.deb  
 404  Not Found [IP: 140.186.70.52 80]


E: Failed to fetch  
http://us.archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/pool/main/w/wpa/wpasupplicant_2.1-0ubuntu1.2_amd64.deb  
 404  Not Found [IP: 140.186.70.52 80]


WhoIs says that 140.186.70.52 belongs to the Free Software Foundation. It  
returns pings OK.




[Trisquel-users] Re : Librebooted Macbook 2,1

2015-04-24 Thread lcerf
Go ahead. As long as you do not propose the use of proprietary software, I do  
not see any problem.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Italian forum for Trisquel: is anyone interested?

2015-04-24 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp

Oh dear, my bad! :blush:


Re: [Trisquel-users] is Laptop Ibm X60 Mini Tablet supported by libreboot?

2015-04-24 Thread arielgnu

You are right, that's pesos xD


Re: [Trisquel-users] is Laptop Ibm X60 Mini Tablet supported by libreboot?

2015-04-24 Thread arielgnu
Mm, that please ask before ordering doesn't give me a good feeling  
about it xD


I was hopping to do it my self :P


Re: [Trisquel-users] New to Trisquel :)

2015-04-24 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
There always isn't a configure file to run. If there is a configure.ac or  
configure.in present, you need to runautoconf


and then follow the normal procedure.

Besides that, always read the README.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pulseaudio increase Cpu temperature

2015-04-24 Thread tomlukeywood

dose this happen with other distros and pulseaudio?


[Trisquel-users] Plasma 5

2015-04-24 Thread amilopowers

Hello

I am using the Plasma Desktop with Trisquel. Is there a way to upgrade to the  
new Plasma 5 desktop? And if yes how?


[Trisquel-users] New Updates: Opensource/Free FPS standalone mod of Xonotic (ChaosEsque) version 57 etc.

2015-04-24 Thread chaosesqueteam

Release 57:
More buildable furniture.
More buildable doors.
Rotating doors nolonger gib by default at low dmg rates if stuck against an  
obstacle.

(dmg rates over 35 will still gib by default, this is all set in the
g_door_rotating... etc cvars, you can set_temp_for_type them in your mapinfo  
file

for your map ofcourse).

suggested_*level for oil, water, lava etc just like foliage (so you can set
defaults for your map)

You can now flood maps with chemical, and methane seas,
enegy hits above the chemical will cause an energy blast,
bullet shots, and hits, will have a chance of causing a small explosion above
the methane sea, explosions cause larger explosions in the methane vapour.

Download:  
http://sourceforge.net/projects/chaosesqueanthology/files/latest/download


No java direct download of version 57:  
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/chaosesqueanthology/Rel_57/XonoticChaosEsqueAnthologyREL57.iso?r=http%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.net%2Fprojects%2Fchaosesqueanthology%2Fts=1429925638use_mirror=liquidtelecom


(For those wishing just to update Xon/data/, the pk3's you'll need are the  
z99bla.pk3, the z9_buildable buildings pk3, and the  
z9-xmod-mapresouces pk3, you know where to get them (same place as last  
time))


Game is fully opensource/libre, media and code.



Re: [Trisquel-users] Pulseaudio increase Cpu temperature

2015-04-24 Thread chaosesqueteam

apt-get remove pulseaudio.

Alsa works fine, no need for pulseaudio.
Its a solution in search of a problem.
All of lennarts stuff seems to peg CPU.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New Updates: Opensource/Free FPS standalone mod of Xonotic (ChaosEsque) version 57 etc.

2015-04-24 Thread chaosesqueteam

sshots(sshots of some stuff)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pulseaudio increase Cpu temperature

2015-04-24 Thread chaosesqueteam

If i open an audio file with Rhythmbox the CPU increase again.
rhythmbox ressurects pulse probably.

Just use alsa. Pulse is just a needless extra abstraction layer.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Librebooted Macbook 2,1

2015-04-24 Thread nicolasmaia
So I created a wiki entry condensing all of the information on this thread:  
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/macbook


If it's not too much to ask Eemeli, it would be wonderful if you could update  
your kernel to the latest version to see if these issues persist. According  
to h-node, updating your kernel would fix the Touchpad issue, for instance.


Cheers!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Plasma 5

2015-04-24 Thread amilopowers
That's still to hard for me. If this is the only way I'll have to wait until  
it comes from the trisquel servers one day. If it does at all...


Re: [Trisquel-users] Librebooted Macbook 2,1

2015-04-24 Thread eemeli . blasten
I could not get Unity to work. I do not know if it's because of a lack of 3D  
acceleration or because I just didn't manage to configure it properly. I  
followed the advice of  
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/how-install-unity-desktop-environment-and-create-session-entry-trisquel-70  
on an almost fresh install of Trisquel 7 on the macbook. When I log in after  
choosing the Ubuntu session, I get an error message about +space (which is my  
hotkey for Synapse). After that i cannot move any of the windows, and there  
is nothing resembling a start menu in any border of the screen. In fact I  
could not even find anything giving me the option to log out. I had to right  
click, open a terminal on Desktop, and kill Xorg to get back to the display  
manager.


I have only ever installed Trisquel 7 (the default one, with GNOME desktop)  
on this machine.


Youtube worked well using html5. I have not installed Gnash of any other  
flash player.


I tried a few HD movies of various qualities and they play smoothly. One  
thing I noticed is that the speakers are several orders of magnitude better  
than on the ThinkPad x60s. However the fan is very loud because the machine  
runs hot, so it's a compromise. Maybe this can be fixed a bit by using  
PowerTOP...


Re: [Trisquel-users] is Laptop Ibm X60 Mini Tablet supported by libreboot?

2015-04-24 Thread davesamcdxv
Yeah but they don't explicitly say it's not supported the way they said the  
X200 tablet wasn't.


Besides, the T60 installation offering also carries the ask-before-ordering  
note - and we all know that Libreboot works well enough with that laptop for  
Gluglug to have a T60 model.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Librebooted Macbook 2,1

2015-04-24 Thread eemeli . blasten
I could not get Unity to work. I do not know if it's because of a lack of 3D  
acceleration or because I just didn't manage to configure it properly. I  
followed the advice of  
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/how-install-unity-desktop-environment-and-create-session-entry-trisquel-70  
on an almost fresh install of Trisquel 7 on the macbook. When I log in after  
choosing the Ubuntu session, I get an error message about +space (which is my  
hotkey for Synapse). After that i cannot move any of the windows, and there  
is nothing resembling a start menu in any border of the screen. In fact I  
could not even find anything giving me the option to log out. I had to right  
click, open a terminal on Desktop, and kill Xorg to get back to the display  
manager.


I have only ever installed Trisquel 7 (the default one, with GNOME desktop)  
on this machine.


Youtube worked well using html5. I have not installed Gnash of any other  
flash player.


I tried a few HD movies of various qualities and they play smoothly. One  
thing I noticed is that the speakers are several orders of magnitude better  
than on the ThinkPad x60s. However the fan is very loud because the machine  
runs hot, so it's a compromise. Maybe this can be fixed a bit by using  
PowerTOP...


Re: [Trisquel-users] New to Trisquel :)

2015-04-24 Thread maestro
I does seem as it's loading each time I type in a letter, and its annoying as  
I need to type everything in the other way round.
 there have been a lot of folks having similar issues with  keyboard and most  
of them solved it by setting Keyboard input method system to `none' in the  
gnome-language-selector.

mao!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Delete KDE Programms

2015-04-24 Thread davesamcdxv
Well, maybe you should've installed plasma-desktop or kde-plasma-desktop  
instead of the entire KDE 'suite' when you were installing KDE.


Anyway, I guess you can now either reinstall the OS and install  
(kde-)plasma-desktop instead of the full suite, or just remove the unwanted  
apps (i.e. KMail) without reinstalling the OS.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Librebooted Macbook 2,1

2015-04-24 Thread maestro

you don't!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Ubuntu 15.10 and above moving to Snappy instead of DEB. What will the Trisquel team do?

2015-04-24 Thread davesamcdxv
So what will this mean? I'm guessing those who want the traditionally small  
size of everything outside the large-file-media-filled ~/ can stick with  
APT-dpkg and those who want Windows-style ability to install an app without  
thinking of dependency hell at the expense of HDD space can opt for Snappy?


If so, that'd be good since the choice of a major distro offering the  
Windows-style ability to install an app regardless of dependancy is more or  
less nonexistant - and I'm sure there are people out there who want such a  
hoice.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Plasma 5

2015-04-24 Thread maestro
Trust me - compiling is very easy. I'll give you a tip - check this command  
sudo apt-get build-dep name of application to build

mao!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Italian forum for Trisquel: is anyone interested?

2015-04-24 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Guys, you now have an Italian forum. Please take this discussion there, thank  
you!


-- https://trisquel.info/en/forum/trisquel-utilizatori


Re: [Trisquel-users] New to Trisquel :)

2015-04-24 Thread ka1cey
I had to remove ibus to fix my keyboard input issue with gedit.  


[Trisquel-users] A repository for Free Javascript?

2015-04-24 Thread elkingrey
I really like LibreJS, and I like how it's allowing web developers a coherent  
way to free their javascript. I also feel much more secure running LibreJS,  
as it disallows nonfree javascript from running on my machine.


But even if a web developer conformed perfectly to the protocol of LibreJS  
and freed their javascript, it would still be trivially easy to insert  
malicious code into the javascript, and many users of LibreJS could still  
become the victims of malicious javascript code.


This is why I believe there should be a large repository of Free Javascript  
that web developers can borrow from.


For example, there is a ton of free software available for Trisquel users to  
install, but only a subset of that is available in the Trisquel repository.  
I, for one, almost exlusively install software from the Trisquel repository.  
And I'm extremely reluctant to install software that isn't, even if it *is*  
free software. I feel that once a program has made it into the Trisquel  
repository the likelihood of intentionally malicious code being inserted into  
a program becomes nearly nonexistant. It's also, likely, withstood the test  
of time to make it in the repo.


But there is plenty of alpha free software out there that isn't in the  
Trisquel repo. And that is considerably less secure. That is my analogy of  
javascript on websites. Even if it does conform to LibreJS it is still  
potentially highly insecure.


If there were a repository of free javascript and a corresponding browser  
extension that *only* loaded javascript that were in the repository, then we  
would have the added benefit of running javascript that is not only free, but  
also much more secure.


Thoughts?


Re: [Trisquel-users] is Laptop Ibm X60 Mini Tablet supported by libreboot?

2015-04-24 Thread arielgnu
I already email them to ask them. I'm guessing they want you to make sure LCD  
panel is supported since not all x60 tablets LCD are.


Re: [Trisquel-users] is Laptop Ibm X60 Mini Tablet supported by libreboot?

2015-04-24 Thread arielgnu
After a while on hanging out with the wonderful guys at #libreboot IRC, I  
believe I found a way to make sure this machine is the one it says without  
having the seller to run commands. I haven't tested yet, but it seems one  
could input the serial number and see what components was built in with. Hope  
fully it will tell me the LCD panel too :)


http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/partslookup

I already asked the seller for the serial number. Fingers cross :D


[Trisquel-users] Re : vpnbook.com - A free VPN service

2015-04-24 Thread merwancherif

I think we can all agree by now that there's no perfect privacy online.
The whole point is to get as much privacy as possible/manageable. Which is a  
legal right.


From there, Tor is not perfect either. It's slow, and some (many?) exit nodes  
are wired.
Plus, for the average user, online behavior gives away some decent data. To  
really use Tor properly, it's not convenient for daily use. It feels more  
adapted to special situations.


As for a VPN, at least it can run most of the time without too much headache.
It's indeed not perfect, but it's at least something. Online behavior remains  
important.
VPNs cannot make online connections completely anonymous, but they can  
usually increase privacy and security (from Wikipedia). Mainly thanks to  
encrypted data. Some metadata can be figured out, but the data itself is  
still encrypted.

So, free vs non free VPN ?
Chances are that if it's free, you're the product. Which can be also true if  
you pay for it (but less likely, since there's an incentive  not to do so).
Is there a way to know if such a company leaks data or not? It seems very  
unreasonable to rely solely on online users reviews. It's like buying tap  
water marketed as a super remedy to all pains in the old west. How am I  
supposed to know that I'm actually logging into a real service? And to know  
if my data is safe or not?


As for the legality of such tools, the legislation in europe and north  
america seems to not go in the right direction. Thankfully, freedom and  
privacy are taking more space in the public debate.
I'm reading about no log VPNs right now, I don't know yet how legal it is,  
but it seems safer.


Re: [Trisquel-users] A repository for Free Javascript?

2015-04-24 Thread onpon4

I've also suggested this in the past,[1] and I agree completely.

[1] https://onpon4.github.io/other/kill-js/


Re: [Trisquel-users] Is anyone here from China?

2015-04-24 Thread myself600
I just discovered why was the download speed so slow. I used the Copy Link  
function instead of Share, which generates a much longer URL that's very slow  
(somewhere below 100kB/s) to download. Don't know why is this happening.