Re: [Trisquel-users] How about a survey to measure how much Trisquel user prefer that Trisquel is based on Ubuntu instead of Debian

2016-08-14 Thread superbyelich

I don't see a need to change to Debian, it works just fine the way it is.




Re: [Trisquel-users] How about a survey to measure how much Trisquel user prefer that Trisquel is based on Ubuntu instead of Debian

2016-08-14 Thread calmstorm

I thought ubuntu was based off of debian unstable though...


Re: [Trisquel-users] How about a survey to measure how much Trisquel user prefer that Trisquel is based on Ubuntu instead of Debian

2016-08-14 Thread dguthrie
Ubuntu is based off Debian testing. It is a true 'fork' that is updated every  
6 months, as opposed to Trisquel's deblobbing effort of Ubuntu.
There's no point basing directly off testing/unstable as they constantly  
change as new packages are added and library versions often change. To this  
extent, it would not be stable (i.e. package updates are unpredictable)  
although it still probably be fine for daily use.
Stable is very good so that is the way to go. I definitely agree about  
waiting to next release though.


> oh and I prefer an option to have an admin password and to have my username  
not appear on the screen automatically and that hibernate is actually an  
option...


Firstly you can add a root account by running "sudo passwd root". Not in the  
graphical installer, true, but it can easily be done.
Secondly if you install lightdm-gtk-greeter (default in lightdm, in non-GNOME  
Debian) and switch the greeter to that in the configuration files then you  
get what I think you are probably referring to.


These are minor things though. Personally I see using Debian as simpler due  
to saving development time more than anything. I also found more problems in  
Ubuntu. But this is personal problems that hardly ever appear for the vast  
majority of users.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Has anyone made it the Libreboot X200 work with Trisquel 7?

2016-08-14 Thread calmstorm

The first question the op wrote is a big YES!

the second one the op wrote would have been a no although its not relevant  
now because it probably does work according to vita_cell.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How about a survey to measure how much Trisquel user prefer that Trisquel is based on Ubuntu instead of Debian

2016-08-14 Thread calmstorm
The only thing I don't know about though, is if debian lts is better  
supported than ubuntu in updating packages...


Actually though... I had a thought...

its just a foolish idea probably,

but maybe base trisquel off of debian unstable or debian testing.

that is just my idea though and it wouldn't be something I would recommend  
now.


all that aside though I prefer trisquel being based off of debian.

Although, I would wait till debian 9 or 10 to make such a jump if possible.



Re: [Trisquel-users] How about a survey to measure how much Trisquel user prefer that Trisquel is based on Ubuntu instead of Debian

2016-08-14 Thread vitacell
I use both, but I had some problems with Debian, it has no aMule packages,  
but I installed aMule manually. And ssh is very painful make to work, in  
Trisquel ssh works out of the box.


The good of Debian, is that it is compiled for ARM and PowerPC(but Ubuntu  
based PowerPC distros work much better), and Debian website is very very  
clear for download packages. Ubuntu website is a bit confusing when  
downloading some packages.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Network doesn't seem to work with generic kernels in Trisquel 7

2016-08-14 Thread legimet . calc
I'm not running Trisquel anymore, but I had a generic kernel and my ath9k_htc  
adapter worked fine.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How about a survey to measure how much Trisquel user prefer that Trisquel is based on Ubuntu instead of Debian

2016-08-14 Thread legimet . calc

Another vote for Debian :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] How about a survey to measure how much Trisquel user prefer that Trisquel is based on Ubuntu instead of Debian

2016-08-14 Thread onpon4
I don't get the notion that Debian is better than Ubuntu. Both Debian and  
Ubuntu segregate libre from proprietary software (though I think Debian's  
definition of what constitutes "free" is better), and both generally have a  
good selection of software... except Ubuntu has a better selection because of  
PPAs. Debian is not more "stable" than Ubuntu LTS in any sense of the word;  
it doesn't crash any less (neither of them normally crash), and it doesn't  
change any less (neither of them change except for bugfixes).


Also, I don't think providing a GNU FSDG-compliant version of Debian is as  
useful as providing a GNU FSDG-compliant version of Ubuntu. Debian's only  
problems at this point are in its documentation, really. Ubuntu actually  
ships Linux with blobs, and with the non-free repository enabled, by default.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Has anyone made it the Libreboot X200 work with Trisquel 7?

2016-08-14 Thread tct

Could an admin change the title of this post from:

"Has anyone made it the Libreboot X200 work with Trisquel 7?"

to something like:

"Has anyone made the Libreboot X200 fingerprint scanner work with Trisquel  
7?"


OP explained this is what he meant to ask. With the current title, it's  
confusing. Thanks in advance!


Re: [Trisquel-users] How about a survey to measure how much Trisquel user prefer that Trisquel is based on Ubuntu instead of Debian

2016-08-14 Thread Ignacio Agulló

dguth...@posteo.net, Dom 14 Ago 2016 21:37:55 CEST:






Fascinating.


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Network doesn't seem to work with generic kernels in Trisquel 7

2016-08-14 Thread dguthrie
I once had lots of trouble with network on Trisquel, after a netinstall. I  
believe that I did choose the generic kernel too when the installer prompted  
it.
I put it down to some nutty hardware problem and nuked the installation. So I  
never found out what was wrong.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How about a survey to measure how much Trisquel user prefer that Trisquel is based on Ubuntu instead of Debian

2016-08-14 Thread dguthrie




Re: [Trisquel-users] Has anyone made it the Libreboot X200 work with Trisquel 7?

2016-08-14 Thread dguthrie
> (I bought my Libreboot X200 from Minifree and they supplied me with a X200  
with webcam and fingerprint sensor so I have no choice).


You can remove them if this is something you would rather not have. For  
example to remove the webcam you take off the front panel of the LCD and then  
remove the webcam. It also lets you remove Bluetooth.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Fridays (development updates), 3

2016-08-14 Thread ewlabonte

As soon as the alpha comes out, I'm installing it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Fridays (development updates), 3

2016-08-14 Thread ewlabonte
I was thinking the same thing. The panel transparency is too good.  
Personally, I was hoping for either XFCE or MATE. I like them both equally  
well. He has to move to something permanent, and flashback isn't. And it has  
to be something that doesn't demand compositing because Linux-libre doesn't  
support all video cards. I like the decision.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Has anyone made it the Libreboot X200 work with Trisquel 7?

2016-08-14 Thread someone

Sorry guys
my mistake, I forgot some key words here :-(
The right title for my post should have been:
"Has anyone made it the Libreboot X200 fingerprint sensor work with Trisquel  
7?"


My problem is with the X200 fingerprint sensors.





[Trisquel-users] Network doesn't seem to work with generic kernels in Trisquel 7

2016-08-14 Thread tct

Can anyone confirm this?

https://trisquel.info/en/issues/20741

Thanks!


Re: [Trisquel-users] How about a survey to measure how much Trisquel user prefer that Trisquel is based on Ubuntu instead of Debian

2016-08-14 Thread greatgnu

Heh, this post ^^
Debian FTW :D


Re: [Trisquel-users] Has anyone made it the Libreboot X200 work with Trisquel 7?

2016-08-14 Thread b . mckay
Works fine. I don't understand the problem. The X200 from Minifree comes  
equipped with the Trisquel 7.0 as its default pre-installed operating system.  
I am also surprised at the mention of people discussing whether the Minifree  
is the right choice, but the OP doesn't want to discuss that so maybe I will  
just say that I have never had a problem with the Minifree or its choice of  
Trisquel as operating system.


[Trisquel-users] How about a survey to measure how much Trisquel user prefer that Trisquel is based on Ubuntu instead of Debian

2016-08-14 Thread someone

Hi everyone

I thought that it couold be a good idea to create a survey to ask Trisquel  
users if they that Trisquel is based on Ubuntu instead of Debian.


I perfectly understan that Trisquel is a Quidam project and that he wants to  
base it on Ubuntu but I think tha could be interesting to know the "general  
consensum" as a community.


Trisquel could be based on Jesse (main branch only), use Debian kernel wich  
divide already free from non-free firmware, plus official backports (main  
branch only) which will provide newer kernel.
This could speed up new release a lot because Trisquel team will have to  
provide only helpers for packages such as Firefox or Icedeove in order to  
avoid non-free adds-on suggested.


It surely will be quicker than cleaning up ubuntu code.

What do you think about it?

Thanks in advance

V.P.

PS = Please don't reply with the "There is Gnewsense already" statement  
becasue they are far too obsolete at time of writing.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Has anyone made it the Libreboot X200 work with Trisquel 7?

2016-08-14 Thread Ignacio Agulló

t...@ceata.org, Dom 14 Ago 2016 15:18:23 CEST:


I've been using X200 with Libreboot and Trisquel 7 without any issues.


 Same here.


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Has anyone made it the Libreboot X200 work with Trisquel 7?

2016-08-14 Thread tct

I've been using X200 with Libreboot and Trisquel 7 without any issues.


[Trisquel-users] Has anyone made it the Libreboot X200 work with Trisquel 7?

2016-08-14 Thread someone

Hi

I would like to know if anyone succeded in making the Libreboot X200 work  
with Trisquel 7.


Please leave apart comments about IF you agree in using such a device (I  
bought my Libreboot X200 from Minifree and they supplied me with a X200 with  
webcam and fingerprint sensor so I have no choice).


Thanks in advance


V.P.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Fridays (development updates), 3

2016-08-14 Thread dguthrie

Also: MATE icon theme.



Re: [Trisquel-users] Full screen at full resolution slow for some games

2016-08-14 Thread dguthrie

I had intended to use it as an example in one of my comments.
That is really strange thing of me...