Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-30 Thread victordesfe
Thank you very much! now i can finally make a good iso set for my collection.  
I really appreciate your collaboration.


Regards.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-30 Thread enduzzer

Gnome Boxes lacks one feature that I'd like to have: import existing VMs.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-29 Thread xliang9550
Nice works. Have you compared various "hypervisors" (graphical front end)  
including gnome-boxes and virt-manager? (There is some freedom issue with  
VirtualBox, even if I don't install its non-free extensions.)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-29 Thread enduzzer

https://kaspian.kapsi.fi/trisquel/

I uploaded some of the autumnlover stuff from Mega NZ here.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-29 Thread enduzzer

It's Gnome Boxes VM.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-29 Thread andyprough

Did you bring that live ISO up in a VM? Any more wallpapers?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-29 Thread enduzzer
Thanks a lot. It works. Much obliged. You're a tomb raider and unearther of  
hidden goodies in the sand, the new  brave Belzoni of the digital world.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-29 Thread autumnlover
Complete imageset of Trisquel 5.5 as it was present on the mirrors in the  
past, including source image and the i18n versions of the images.


https://mega.nz/#F!ItdDGADK!cvoH7sivHlfWIMFb74dMDA




Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-28 Thread greatgnu
>Hi, i'm victor and for the last two years i've been doing a operating system  
iso's collection.


I remember a gentlemen requesting links for old trisquek distros, the older  
the better, on the IRC freenode, and that the was circa 2 yrs ago. You must  
be the same distronecrofilo. That's a nice fetish you got developing there,  
shame on you. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-28 Thread softwdensky

That is almost contemporary 鎖国. Can predict the consequences easily.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakoku


Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-28 Thread xliang9550

Thanks. But Tor is perfectly blocked in China.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-28 Thread softwdensky

真的假的?If true, that would be the symbol of... something? Eh?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-28 Thread Narcis Garcia
El 28/10/19 a les 7:21, xliang9...@live.cn ha escrit:
> If I remember correctly, Chinese version of Wikipedia was taken down in
> mid 2015, and Japanese version was taken down in late 2017 (any literate
> Chinese people should be able to recognize most kanji). And all language
> versions of Wikipedia were completely censored in March or April 2019
> (2~3 months before 30th anniversary of The Protest).
> 
> Fortunately, I could ask friends outside China to download the contents,
> encrypt them and put them in a hidden partition on a portable hard disk,
> and finally deliver them to the totalitarian regime.

www.torproject.org

zh.wikipedia.org is usable with Tor Browser.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-28 Thread enduzzer

Internet Archive

https://archive.org/details/Trisquel4.0.1LtsTaranis

https://archive.org/details/Trisquel4.0LtsTaranis

https://archive.org/details/Trisquel2.2.2LtsRobur


Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-28 Thread victordesfe
Thanks everyone for your support! i didn't knew i'd receive this friendly  
community on trisquel forum, so i'm more than pleased for your effort. Hope  
we get to our purpose.


As i have already said in a comment, i've already obtained trisquel 5.0 64bit  
so technically i'd be more than done if we found 5.0 32 bit. I've also said  
5.5 but that version seem to be even more lost than the other and it's a  
point release anyway so i could miss on that.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-28 Thread victordesfe

Thanks for your advice.
I'd try that but unfortunately i'm a newbie in terms of coding or compiling  
things. Sometimes compiler versions or the needed libraries might be missing  
and that would make the original code unworkable unless someone modifies it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-28 Thread victordesfe
I agree, that's why i haven't stored/archived any netinst version of any  
distro because they are incomplete and in some cases even won't work, but as  
for regular iso versions, they still work without internet connection. In  
this context, the only thing you'd need is compatible hardware (BIOS non  
UEFI) or a compatible virtualization enviroment.


As for additional software, it's true that you don't have access to the  
original repos anymore so the only option would be to re-compile them from  
old sourcecode versions, which is indeed a pain but we are dealing with an  
historic OS so nobody is intended to do that, unless they really want. My  
actual project is to collect the operating systems itself, but i'm also  
working and i'm planning to work on a programs/software collection. I already  
have a good archive on windows apps but i should look in the future to do  
some linux ones too so we could run some extra software on old distros.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-28 Thread victordesfe
Great, i might conisder that. In fact, i was able to get trisquel version 4  
via archive.org


Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-28 Thread victordesfe

Thanks for your response Tebaldo,

I've already set up those torrents some weeks ago (i should have tell that  
before), but they have no seeds, these are mostly dead torrents. I've been  
able to download 5.0 64bit version iso from a slow torrent, so in that term  
i've been lucky. I'm still missing the 32bit version and it hasn't shown any  
seed since then. Also someone told me that netinst version has seeds but  
these versions are very incomplete and deppend on external repos to be  
complete or to even work. External repos which are mostly dead or has only  
incompatible software versions, so i don't think that's suitable for my  
collection.


Regards.



Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-28 Thread softwdensky
I see, so they are quite recent incidents. I think that they should censor  
only some articles which are inconvenient for them, if they want to keep  
especially strong economy. 10 years or 20 years later, the difference of  
amount of knowledge between Chinese people and not censored countries people  
would be a wide gap.


> I could ask friends outside China to download the contents, encrypt them  
and put them in a hidden partition on a portable hard disk,


This is the symbol of inefficiency of the system. But it is derailing from  
the main topic, as always. I would raise a new thread about education...


Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-28 Thread xliang9550
If I remember correctly, Chinese version of Wikipedia was taken down in mid  
2015, and Japanese version was taken down in late 2017 (any literate Chinese  
people should be able to recognize most kanji). And all language versions of  
Wikipedia were completely censored in March or April 2019 (2~3 months before  
30th anniversary of The Protest).


Fortunately, I could ask friends outside China to download the contents,  
encrypt them and put them in a hidden partition on a portable hard disk, and  
finally deliver them to the totalitarian regime.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-27 Thread softwdensky
> because Wikipedia was completely taken down (censored/blocked) in my  
country.


真的假的?If true, it has been significantly lowering China's education  
level. I even think that if you have wikipedia, you don't need school  
education. Or at least we would be able to reduce school hours to half.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-27 Thread strypey
Hi Victor, it's awesome you want to include Trisquel in your collection. I  
can't help you with the missing versions of Trisquel, but if you're looking  
for hosting to make your collection publicly available, I suggest contacting  
softwareheritage.org and Archive.org:

https://archive.org/details/software

Possibly also ArchiveTeam.org.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-26 Thread tebaldofernandez

Hi victor12bn97,

I don't know if this can help you.

The torrent links for all versions:

http://trisquel.info:6969

and in the "http_trisquel.info_6969-TRI_5.tar.gz" file, only for 5

Adios.






Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-26 Thread adel

"For that reason, in my opinion, trisquel has value in linux history."

And more significantly for Trisquel: GNU history

Sounds like a great project; all the best victor


Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-26 Thread xliang9550
To make the legacy installation (or live) media meaningful (usable), one may  
need to cache the repositories for those old versions, too, which costs far  
more storage space (mirror servers won't keep repositories for all versions  
for ever). So I don't see much point stockpiling historical images (and then  
stopped doing so). Backing up the artworks (e.g. wallpapers) used by certain  
legacy versions is good enough for me.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-26 Thread Ignacio Agulló


 Sadly, many Trisquel installers won't work in the future - because
they are net installers that need to download packages from a central
server that will no longer provide the download.  Even when you manage
to get the image for the installation disk, you won't be able to make it
work.  So you see, your efforts are doomed from the start.

-- 
Ignacio Agulló · grafot...@grafotema.com



Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-25 Thread xliang9550
I once stockpiled many TBs of legacy operating system ISOs, but purged them  
later. I could make much better use of my hard drives. For example, I keep  
multiple Kiwix offline zim files, because Wikipedia was completely taken down  
(censored/blocked) in my country.


Now I only keep two OS images: One is current Debian testing installer; the  
other is last week's Debian testing installer.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting an old version of trisquel for archiving purposes

2019-10-25 Thread jason
It appears to be gone but it should be possible to re-create it because all  
of the source code still seems to be available via  
http://oldarchive.trisquel.info/ along with the corresponding scripts from  
https://devel.trisquel.info/ for 5.5 "Brigantia."