Re: [Trisquel-users] Midory outdated

2018-05-17 Thread greatgnu

This is my preciouss :)

https://trisquel.info/files/Screenshot%20from%202018-04-13%2021-36-13.png


Re: [Trisquel-users] Midory outdated

2018-05-17 Thread hd-scania
Is LXQt ugly mainly depends on kwin, xfwm, or openbox as win manager, and  
what are your control and icon themes. ':)
For me I just love Breeze-dark control, mouse, icon themes from KDE for LXQt  
and sometimes GTK desktops like Cinnamon and MATE, which I also have  
installed Openbox/KDE for experimenting is that more light than standard  
Plasma shell.
In parallel I've also installed Ubuntu touch, Chrome OS, winxp, win10 themes  
that looks very different from GNOME's Adwaita.
For Parabola you will have one more choice, https://liri.io, for Trisquel you  
will also have Unity shell as one more choice. :D


Re: [Trisquel-users] Midory outdated

2018-05-16 Thread calmstorm
Alas, LXDE development is being slowed, I wish LXQT would either be made to  
look like LXDE,


or

LXDE would be forked to continue in GTK3.

Not that I don't usually prefer XFCE, but yeah, the reason I went with XFCE  
is because LXDE was going to be replaced in the near future with LXQT.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Midory outdated

2018-05-16 Thread greatgnu
Took me a lot of time to get it but I finally understand LXDE is da shit!  
There is nothing like LXDE, as the song says 'simply the best' :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Midory outdated

2018-05-15 Thread calmstorm

IF you want light, there are two options, XFCE or LXQT

LXDE will be used less and less in the future or I would have mentioned that.

Mate isn't bad though.  But XFCE is my favorite, then LXQT takes a hard  
second with one exception, LXQT is extremely ugly compared to LXDE.


meh... 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Midory outdated

2018-05-15 Thread calmstorm

Yeah, I agree  anything based on gnome 3 is far from light.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Midory outdated

2018-05-15 Thread greatgnu
>As far as I need the working system not just privacy concerns I do switch  
back to XUbuntu.



Look! An icon on muh desktop is not as yellow as I want it to be.. it's  
rather orange instead.. I switch to teh Windows!

Problem solved!
(stopped reading there)
((peace))


Re: [Trisquel-users] Midory outdated

2018-05-10 Thread onpon4

No, Cinnamon is not supposed to be "light". It's based on GNOME 3.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Midory outdated

2018-05-10 Thread hd-scania
There's also a Cinnamon desktop similar to MATE which both are GNOME forks,  
as compared to LXQt or MATE is Cinnamon really light? I have some nostalgia  
reason using Cinnamon from which I was still running nonfree Linux Mint,  
that's the system developing Cinnamon desktop.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Midory outdated

2018-05-10 Thread xliang9550

Of course LXDE/LXQt is lighter, but MATE is light enough.

I run Trisquel 8 (default settings) on a twelve years old ThinkPad Z61t and  
everything is smooth enough.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Midory outdated

2018-05-09 Thread alonivtsan
The browser is called Qupzilla, but the rendering engine was replaced so it  
is in fact a different browser (apparently in Parabola the rendering engine  
qt5-webengine was replaced by qt5-webkit).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Midory outdated

2018-05-09 Thread hd-scania

Parabola ships QupZilla version 1.8.9 that uses QtWebKit engine,
https://parabola.nu/packages/QupZilla1
An KDE browser using QtWebEngine that now merges QupZilla and Konqueror,  
called Falkon, is also available in Parabola, but the QtWebEngine deps are  
virtual packages to be ignored.
Parabola should also try to liberate QtWebEgine by removing  
‘‘Pepper’’ Flash plugins and deps then publish in their [nonprism]  
repo,

https://parabola.nu/packages/falkon
Parabola also ships WebKit2GTK in [nonprism] repo that doesn’t need  
geoclue2,

https://parabola.nu/packages/webkit2gtk


Re: [Trisquel-users] Midory outdated

2018-05-09 Thread hd-scania

For LXQt and MATE which is more light thanks? I will sincerely vote for LXQt.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Midory outdated

2018-05-09 Thread xliang9550

For light-weight browser, QupZilla is recommended (and also by gnu.org).

For light-weight desktop environment, why do I feel that MATE is even lighter  
than Xfce... One fact is that Xubuntu is beginning to use certain MATE  
components.


PS, I am running Trisquel on a twelve years old notebook. It has an Atheros  
WLAN adapter and no ME. I learned that the initial generation ME for 945  
platforms is located in the Intel Gib ethernet adapter. But my LAN adapter is  
non-Intel, so I'm not troubled by ME. Everything is so perfect under  
Trisquel.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Midory outdated

2018-05-09 Thread alonivtsan
Epiphany is still available in Parabola/Hyperbola using WebKitGTK+ without  
geoclue2 support.


https://www.hyperbola.info/packages/extra/x86_64/webkit2gtk/

Also, there is a reason why Qupzilla is not offered by Parabola and Hyperbola  
(and thus should not be recommended here) - it is due to freedom issues  
concerning qt5-webengine.


https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/software/blacklist.git/plain/blacklist.txt


Re: [Trisquel-users] Midory outdated

2018-05-09 Thread hd-scania
By running Trisquel mini you are never prevented to install QupZilla hence  
abandon discontinued Midori at your own will and own need. Trisquel is free  
software so you are always free to install anything that meets freedom.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Midory outdated

2018-05-09 Thread hd-scania
Epiphany is a great browser that’s written for GNOME, for systems that  
don’t have Falkon/QupZilla like PureOS and Hyperbola I run Epiphany as the  
only browser for these systems, however for Trisquel there is QupZilla so I  
run QupZilla as my default web browser.
Note that package your-privacy in Parabola blocks geoclue2 that also blocks  
WebKitGTK+ so finally blocks Epiphany, but I still have QupZilla that’s  
secured to keep using it. :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Midory outdated

2018-05-08 Thread alonivtsan
If you are after a browser similar to Midori you can try Epiphany/Web (both  
use the WebKitGTK+ rendering engine).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Midory outdated

2018-05-08 Thread enduzzer
Mate should be pretty light on resources but if you find it not responsive  
enough maybe you should try something else like Openbox or FVWM.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Midory outdated

2018-05-08 Thread onpon4
6 years old is not that old. My old laptop was a budget laptop from 2007 and  
it worked with MATE, Cinnamon, GNOME, etc just fine. Pretty much any x86  
computer from 2012 should easily be able to handle any modern desktop  
environment, even KDE. In fact the newest hardware that can work with a 100%  
libre software stack (that is to say, the Libreboot-supported computers) are  
older than that.


Loading speed is influenced almost entirely by how fast your hard drive is.  
How many seconds are you talking about with regard to loading speed? If it's  
more than a few seconds or so I would seriously consider replacing that hard  
drive since such slow operation could be an early sign that it's developing  
too many bad sectors. Using a lightweight DE that loads less stuff is only a  
band-aid solution and isn't going to protect you from the inevitable data  
loss.


On the other hand, if it's only a few seconds that's bothering you, that's  
because you're using a hard drive, not because of the age of your computer.  
You can get faster read/write speeds with an SSD.


Also, Xfce is available on Trisquel; just install the "xfce4" meta-package.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Midory outdated

2018-05-08 Thread Mason Hock
> My PC is 6 years old and it loads for ages under Mate so the only acceptable
> solution for me is Xfce environment

Really? My PC is 12 years old and has no trouble with MATE. I have tried Xfce 
as well and noticed little difference in performance. 

> I wish it was available under
> Trisquel too.

It is.

$ sudo apt install xfce4

Then log out, click the icon next to your username, selec Xfce, and log in.


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Midory outdated

2018-05-08 Thread zabua
My PC is 6 years old and it loads for ages under Mate so the only acceptable  
solution for me is Xfce environment :) I wish it was available under Trisquel  
too.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Midory outdated

2018-05-08 Thread enduzzer

Midori is unmaintained.

What stops you from installing Abrowser? Or install The regular Trisquel Mate  
desktop edition, not Mini.